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Proprioception and a Dream About a Kid Falling · I Hate Talking

• 0:29
  I Hate Talking: Welcome to episode 32 of I Hate Talking.
• 0:32
  I Hate Talking: Hi everyone.
• 0:33
  I Hate Talking: So we do know what episode number it is this time, assuredly, and we also know the position of our own bodies.
• 0:42
  I Hate Talking: Oh, yeah, I was like, wait, well, yes, I'm sitting in my chair at my desk.
• 0:48
  I Hate Talking: And you would have known that even with your eyes closed?
• 0:51
  I Hate Talking: Yes.
• 0:52
  I Hate Talking: And that's due to a ability that the human body has called proprioception.
• 0:59
  I Hate Talking: Proprioception.
• 1:01
  I Hate Talking: Proprioception.
• 1:04
  I Hate Talking: OK, what does that mean?
• 1:05
  I Hate Talking: So that is the brain's ability to know the position of the body without any particular movement or stimulus outside of its own thinking.
• 1:20
  I Hate Talking: So you don't need to be touched or move or feel anything to know the position of your own body.
• 1:28
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 1:29
  I Hate Talking: Like how you can feed yourself with your eyes closed.
• 1:34
  I Hate Talking: Yes, exactly.
• 1:36
  I Hate Talking: I suppose you could do that.
• 1:37
  I Hate Talking: I don't know if I've ever tried to do that.
• 1:39
  I Hate Talking: Uh, I'm pretty sure I have.
• 1:42
  I Hate Talking: You just were pretending to see what it would be like if you were blind, or you're just experimenting with proprioception.
• 1:49
  I Hate Talking: I don't know, like, or like in games.
• 1:51
  I Hate Talking: It's like a very common, right, like close your eyes and, or I'm just really sleepy when I eat.
• 1:57
  I Hate Talking: People do that, right?
• 1:59
  I Hate Talking: I'm not sure our listeners can comment, email, send us a text, let us know if you have ever attempted to eat with your eyes closed as some form of game or self-entertainment.
• 2:12
  I Hate Talking: Yeah.
• 2:13
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 2:13
  I Hate Talking: Well, there is a game that we have that we play as a family, I forget what it's called right now, but you put these like goggles on and it makes everything upside down.
• 2:24
  I Hate Talking: And then you're supposed to draw pictures or do activities and everything's upside down, right?
• 2:29
  I Hate Talking: It's really fun, we all laugh, and a way that you cheat on that game is you close your eyes, and then you're able to draw the picture better or do stuff like that.
• 2:41
  I Hate Talking: Well, it's not cheating if it's not prohibited in the rules.
• 2:45
  I Hate Talking: That's true.
• 2:46
  I Hate Talking: It doesn't say not to.
• 2:47
  I Hate Talking: But you, instead of looking upside down and doing things, cause even for that, eating, cause that's one of the tasks, is like taking a bite of something with those goggles on.
• 2:59
  I Hate Talking: But when you're looking and you're upside down, the proprioception doesn't work.
• 3:05
  I Hate Talking: I suppose that's true because, yes, you're getting mixed signals from your body position in terms of proprioception versus your ocular input that is seeing something that is reporting a different experience.
• 3:21
  I Hate Talking: Right.
• 3:21
  I Hate Talking: So yeah, when we have those goggles on that make us feel like we're upside down, when we're putting something in our mouths or drawing, we completely missed the mark.
• 3:30
  I Hate Talking: But if you close your eyes, even with the goggles on, We successfully can do those tasks.
• 3:37
  I Hate Talking: And some people have described proprioception as the sixth sense.
• 3:43
  I Hate Talking: So in addition to your smell and taste and touch and sight and hearing, that proprioception is the 6th sense.
• 3:53
  I Hate Talking: So, no shade to Bruce Willis and his 6th sense, but uh that is, I think, a more legitimate 6th sense that everyone has.
• 4:03
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I like that one better than seeing dead people.
• 4:06
  I Hate Talking: Precisely.
• 4:09
  I Hate Talking: And speaking of seeing things that aren't real, we'll be talking about a dream -- in this -- episode.
• 4:17
  I Hate Talking: Oh, is this a dream you had this week?
• 4:20
  I Hate Talking: -- It -- is because, OK, y'all, I dream a lot.
• 4:24
  I Hate Talking: I remember my dreams often.
• 4:27
  I Hate Talking: Adam doesn't seem to, and he kept talking in his sleep the other night.
• 4:32
  I Hate Talking: Is this the night that you were talking?
• 4:34
  I Hate Talking: Precisely.
• 4:34
  I Hate Talking: It was so weird.
• 4:36
  I Hate Talking: I kept like thinking you were talking to me or something.
• 4:39
  I Hate Talking: I'd wake up and be like, what?
• 4:40
  I Hate Talking: Are you OK?
• 4:41
  I Hate Talking: What's going on?
• 4:42
  I Hate Talking: And you're like, huh?
• 4:43
  I Hate Talking: Like you're obviously asleep and it was weird that you were having conversations in your sleep cause that doesn't normally happen.
• 4:50
  I Hate Talking: It is very odd and not only do I not remember my dreams typically.
• 4:59
  I Hate Talking: It is also very typical that I don't even remember dreaming at all.
• 5:04
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, that's what you say.
• 5:06
  I Hate Talking: Me and most of our kids remember our dreams very vividly, almost every night, but one of our kids doesn't and you don't.
• 5:13
  I Hate Talking: But yeah, so I asked the next morning, I was like, what happened last night?
• 5:17
  I Hate Talking: Were you OK?
• 5:18
  I Hate Talking: You were talking in your sleep, which I'm not sure I've ever experienced with you.
• 5:25
  I Hate Talking: Some of my siblings talk in their sleep, and that's something I grew up with, sharing a room with them.
• 5:30
  I Hate Talking: I don't know if you've ever talked in your sleep at night.
• 5:33
  I Hate Talking: And you were like, oh, I just had some really weird dreams last night.
• 5:38
  I Hate Talking: So, OK, tell me about these dreams you had or dream.
• 5:41
  I Hate Talking: Yes, it is singular dream.
• 5:42
  I Hate Talking: It was only one dream that I recall.
• 5:46
  I Hate Talking: I may have had more than one, but there was only one that I distinctly remember and actually again remember quite a few details about.
• 5:56
  I Hate Talking: And there are 4 significant takeaways from this dream that I will share with you as well as our audience.
• 6:05
  I Hate Talking: Like, you think the dream meant something?
• 6:07
  I Hate Talking: I do.
• 6:08
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 6:10
  I Hate Talking: Oh, good dose of dreams.
• 6:12
  I Hate Talking: I can't wait.
• 6:13
  I Hate Talking: So the dream to set the stage took place outside.
• 6:21
  I Hate Talking: It was perhaps at like some sort of residence where a number of people were sitting in chairs on the lawn.
• 6:32
  I Hate Talking: Did you know these people?
• 6:33
  I Hate Talking: You were there.
• 6:34
  I Hate Talking: Oh, that's good.
• 6:35
  I Hate Talking: Pretty sure there were other people that I knew from various things that We have within our lives as different -- social engagements like -- present day things or just in life present day things, yes, OK, so present people and me check.
• 6:54
  I Hate Talking: Sitting in chairs in the lawn of a backyard of a residence.
• 6:58
  I Hate Talking: OK, I believe that so far that's realistic.
• 7:01
  I Hate Talking: And there may have been a fire pit, not quite sure, but there was definitely some sort of light source that was different than an electrical light in terms of like a floodlight or this is like detailed OK back porch light of some sort, yes OK.
• 7:19
  I Hate Talking: Probably fire.
• 7:21
  I Hate Talking: I mean, we always have fire pits with our friends, got it.
• 7:23
  I Hate Talking: Then there is a stairway that goes up to a landing on the 2nd floor, and this is steel, some sort of gray metal interwoven grating of some kind.
• 7:39
  I Hate Talking: And the specific thing of note is that there are no railings on the stairway, as well as no railings on the landing, which is at least 12 to 14 ft elevated above the lawn.
• 7:54
  I Hate Talking: Wow, that's scary.
• 7:55
  I Hate Talking: That's not up to code.
• 7:56
  I Hate Talking: Indeed, so.
• 7:59
  I Hate Talking: I guess, shall I continue in The narrative of the dream or pause for the particular takeaways at each step.
• 8:10
  I Hate Talking: Tell me the whole dream.
• 8:11
  I Hate Talking: This is super interesting cause this is very detailed and very uncharacteristic of you.
• 8:18
  I Hate Talking: Precisely.
• 8:19
  I Hate Talking: OK, go on.
• 8:20
  I Hate Talking: So we're hanging out.
• 8:22
  I Hate Talking: Are we happy or are we having a good time, or is this not a good time?
• 8:26
  I Hate Talking: It's a some sort of social event, yes, -- so it was -- trying to get you to sit next to me.
• 8:33
  I Hate Talking: No, -- this is that had that -- had that had no part.
• 8:36
  I Hate Talking: You do play a part in the dream, but it's, it's not that one.
• 8:39
  I Hate Talking: -- Oh -- no.
• 8:42
  I Hate Talking: -- We'll -- see.
• 8:42
  I Hate Talking: Oh no.
• 8:44
  I Hate Talking: OK, keep going.
• 8:45
  I Hate Talking: So that's the stage we have the line, a number of people, you included from real social interactions.
• 8:54
  I Hate Talking: The fire pit, uh, stairway, no railing, the landing, no railing, some sort of light source on the second floor.
• 9:04
  I Hate Talking: It was on top, like the fireplace or something was on the 2nd floor.
• 9:10
  I Hate Talking: No, there's just a like a floodlight or or a uh some sort of back porch light type thing at the back of the residence on the landing.
• 9:21
  I Hate Talking: -- This is -- OK.
• 9:22
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, -- I'm following -- it.
• 9:24
  I Hate Talking: Then our smallest child makes an appearance.
• 9:27
  I Hate Talking: Oh no, I feel like this is gonna be sad.
• 9:30
  I Hate Talking: And He is very rambunctious and energetic and is running up the stairs.
• 9:39
  I Hate Talking: With no railing, very realistic.
• 9:43
  I Hate Talking: And going to the landing and in some way trying to interact with the light source on the second level landing.
• 9:51
  I Hate Talking: OK, I already, I feel like I don't like where this is going.
• 9:54
  I Hate Talking: He's our kid that has fallen and broken his collarbone.
• 9:58
  I Hate Talking: From playground equipment at parks before.
• 10:01
  I Hate Talking: So this is scary.
• 10:03
  I Hate Talking: So then it does shift from an enjoyable social experience of some sort where everybody's having a good time to one of concern because everyone, including myself, begin yelling.
• 10:22
  I Hate Talking: To this small child to be careful or come down or just, you know, all the different things that one might expect to be communicated to a small child in potential danger 14 ft above the ground with no railings on the stairway or landing.
• 10:42
  I Hate Talking: Scary.
• 10:44
  I Hate Talking: I don't like that.
• 10:45
  I Hate Talking: So this small child then becomes very animated and becomes unstable on his own feet and is going in many different directions trying to sort of see what's going on or losing his balance or something is happening.
• 11:06
  I Hate Talking: -- Because -- everyone's yelling at him -- because I -- just feel like everyone stop -- talking -- like and -- then -- I'd run up there and get him.
• 11:15
  I Hate Talking: He tumbles backwards off of the landing.
• 11:19
  I Hate Talking: Oh no.
• 11:21
  I Hate Talking: This is so sad.
• 11:22
  I Hate Talking: So, I'm trying to remember there's 4 things, 4 things.
• 11:27
  I Hate Talking: And this is perhaps even as I've rehearsed some of this, interesting to note that it is difficult to remember dreams.
• 11:34
  I Hate Talking: And that it's Somewhat Hard to recall the exact specifics.
• 11:40
  I Hate Talking: Are you like, do you have a feeling?
• 11:42
  I Hate Talking: Sometimes I can't remember exacts, but I have like a feeling in my stomach, or like in my shoulders of how I felt.
• 11:50
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I have to think and pause here.
• 11:53
  I Hate Talking: Ah yes, OK, I remember the next thing that happens.
• 11:56
  I Hate Talking: So then, I get up out of my chair.
• 11:59
  I Hate Talking: Because we're all just sitting there screaming the whole time and, and I wasn't as, you know, I guess it's a dream, right?
• 12:07
  I Hate Talking: So it doesn't really exactly flow in like a normal state of actual physical ability, but I'm midway up the stairs.
• 12:18
  I Hate Talking: As he is falling backwards off of this 14 ft platform.
• 12:24
  I Hate Talking: And then I cannot reach him.
• 12:27
  I Hate Talking: I could not catch him, but I was able to extend my leg and my foot.
• 12:35
  I Hate Talking: And Nudge him As he was falling past me.
• 12:40
  I Hate Talking: And he then landed on his feet.
• 12:44
  I Hate Talking: Wow, you're a hero.
• 12:48
  I Hate Talking: And then There was still some sort of injury because he was crying and.
• 12:54
  I Hate Talking: Making it known to the world that there was a problem.
• 12:58
  I Hate Talking: So, I rushed to him and.
• 13:03
  I Hate Talking: Held him and inspected his legs and feet.
• 13:07
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 13:08
  I Hate Talking: And then I believe that's sort of where it ends perhaps, maybe I, I do seem to recall there's maybe like emergency services called or something of that nature, but then it sort of just peters out and Vague recollection, and I don't really recall a specific ending.
• 13:27
  I Hate Talking: So do we know what the light source was or what happened?
• 13:32
  I Hate Talking: So I guess perhaps there's even a 5th and 6th thing that I don't think are really like life lessons per se, but are perhaps.
• 13:41
  I Hate Talking: Reasons and an impetus for what actually happened in the dream.
• 13:46
  I Hate Talking: So the light source played a part in why this particular child was going up the stairs to this platform because they wanted to interact with that particular light source.
• 13:57
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 13:58
  I Hate Talking: And then upon inspection, his right leg or ankle was noticeably broken.
• 14:07
  I Hate Talking: And It is interesting to note that ever since a hike that we've done a few weeks ago, my right ankle has been hurting, so perhaps a relationship there.
• 14:19
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 14:20
  I Hate Talking: So that's the 5th and 6th things that again are not really particular takeaways or life lessons, but Perhaps Some of the impetus for why these particular details are in the said dream.
• 14:34
  I Hate Talking: OK, so do you want to explain the rest of it, or can I give my real quick overview, just hearing it what I think.
• 14:40
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, go ahead.
• 14:42
  I Hate Talking: Well, just you saying like my right ankle hurt and his right ankle was broken, and we were up high when we went on that hike.
• 14:49
  I Hate Talking: We were really high.
• 14:51
  I Hate Talking: We went with our kids.
• 14:53
  I Hate Talking: It was high and like some parts were scary.
• 14:56
  I Hate Talking: I kept telling our one kid not that kid that you're talking about, a different kid like stay on the path.
• 15:00
  I Hate Talking: Because if you just stepped off, it was a steep drop.
• 15:04
  I Hate Talking: And they were, you know, just being little kids and playing and I had to keep nudging them closer to the wall.
• 15:12
  I Hate Talking: And there was even a part that you went down first and you would take one candidate at a time, cause it was too narrow.
• 15:19
  I Hate Talking: And steep to send all of us.
• 15:22
  I Hate Talking: So we'd send one kid and they'd come back to me, and then we'd send the next kid.
• 15:27
  I Hate Talking: And so maybe like the light source of how pretty it was and the waterfalls we saw, and like, but your ankle hurting and just, I don't know, maybe you're self-conscious of remembering how scary it was with these little kids.
• 15:41
  I Hate Talking: And how we could have easily fallen.
• 15:44
  I Hate Talking: Without railings.
• 15:46
  I Hate Talking: That's my quick second from hearing this just right now.
• 15:50
  I Hate Talking: So tell me your takeaways.
• 15:52
  I Hate Talking: So for takeaways in particular.
• 15:55
  I Hate Talking: One is how humankind has built things that are dangerous in and of themselves that would not really necessarily occur in nature.
• 16:10
  I Hate Talking: Now, obviously you're describing things on this hike that are relatively natural with some cliff facings and trails that go right along the edge of particular dangers, but those would be few and far between, right, in terms of like a normal terrain and things of that nature.
• 16:33
  I Hate Talking: And if you did encounter that, it would be Relatively easy to see that that was a danger.
• 16:40
  I Hate Talking: Whereas this particular stairway and platform are manufactured in such a way that it seems normal, but because there is no guide rail or railing that it is in fact dangerous and that humankind actually manufactures danger.
• 17:02
  I Hate Talking: So as another example, the average maximum running speed of a person is anywhere from 17 to 18, maybe 19 MPH.
• 17:17
  I Hate Talking: There are Olympic athletes that will run much faster than that in the 20s, uh, up to high 20 MPH.
• 17:26
  I Hate Talking: But for your normal person, you're gonna be 17, maybe 18 MPH.
• 17:33
  I Hate Talking: And it is interesting to note that the human body can withstand an impact with little to no damage at 18 to 19 MPH.
• 17:45
  I Hate Talking: Huh, OK.
• 17:48
  I Hate Talking: So if you run as fast as you can into a natural formation, such as a tree or some sort of Natural object.
• 18:02
  I Hate Talking: So we're not talking about like a brick wall or something like that where it is again manmade because that will have actually a different impact, but Taking into account the example of a tree, if you run into a tree at 19 miles an hour, there's a pretty, pretty good chance that you will survive and have relatively minor injuries, huh, except for Sonny Bono.
• 18:26
  I Hate Talking: Who?
• 18:28
  I Hate Talking: Sonny and Cher.
• 18:30
  I Hate Talking: This is before my time.
• 18:32
  I Hate Talking: Well it was before mine too.
• 18:34
  I Hate Talking: That's how he passed was he ran into a tree.
• 18:37
  I Hate Talking: He was skiing and ran into a tree.
• 18:39
  I Hate Talking: Well, skiing, exactly, this proves my point, that skiing is not a natural activity of a person, but that skis were manufactured and therefore, Cause this particular person to travel at a higher velocity than they would normally -- be able to achieve -- faster than 18 miles an hour.
• 19:01
  I Hate Talking: Absolutely.
• 19:02
  I Hate Talking: Oh, OK.
• 19:03
  I Hate Talking: And I think most people are going to travel at faster than 18 miles an hour almost every day inside of a motorized vehicle, which again is not natural, and that is why a lot of people will have serious injuries.
• 19:19
  I Hate Talking: If they are in a car accident, is because they're traveling faster than this 18 to 19 MPH.
• 19:25
  I Hate Talking: Interesting, OK.
• 19:27
  I Hate Talking: So that is the first takeaway is that humankind has manufactured danger that is outside of the natural limits of the human body.
• 19:37
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 19:38
  I Hate Talking: Number 2 is something that you already alluded to is that the particular child in question was caused to fall in some form or fashion as a direct output of the yelling and shouting to be careful.
• 19:59
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I see that a lot, especially at parks or whatnot.
• 20:02
  I Hate Talking: Often, if you're like, stop, slow down or, you know, be careful, the kids starts getting more wobbly.
• 20:09
  I Hate Talking: Versus like in my heart, so many times, I want to scream those things cause I'm so anxious watching them, but if I'm quiet, And just watch them, they successfully do it.
• 20:21
  I Hate Talking: I mean, obviously, not always, sometimes you do have to intervene, but that screaming will startle them and make them second guess themselves and make them nervous, and if they're nervous, then they're more likely to fall.
• 20:35
  I Hate Talking: Precisely, and that is the exact takeaway is that.
• 20:38
  I Hate Talking: There are people yelling or shouting at them that that could cause that reaction of being startled and therefore actually put them into a place of greater danger because they are now not as surefooted or whatever the case may be.
• 20:56
  I Hate Talking: I myself was counted among those people yelling and shouting at this particular child in the dream and not only I think is there the takeaway that we should remain quiet.
• 21:08
  I Hate Talking: At certain points that also perhaps we can change the temperament of the communication as well as what is being particularly communicated in a way that is soft and encouraging.
• 21:25
  I Hate Talking: And instead of saying, don't do this or even be careful is put your hand here or put your foot there so that you can achieve the desired output and be able to help in that regard.
• 21:40
  I Hate Talking: So that is the second takeaway.
• 21:42
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 21:42
  I Hate Talking: So we have so far manufactured danger and the shouting which caused.
• 21:50
  I Hate Talking: The Startlement in this particular child.
• 21:54
  I Hate Talking: And then third is the non-reaction or the non-action, I guess, of everyone around me except myself where I feel as I'm the only one taking action to Take action or to be of some value to this particular child in this situation.
• 22:19
  I Hate Talking: Well, that goes back probably way back into your life and your mental beliefs.
• 22:27
  I Hate Talking: So I think very often you tend to live in a way that if you don't do it, it won't get done.
• 22:34
  I Hate Talking: Yes, it won't get done or won't get done correctly.
• 22:38
  I Hate Talking: So, this is somewhat self-critical because that may be an incorrect view.
• 22:46
  I Hate Talking: You just put a lot of pressure on yourself, always.
• 22:48
  I Hate Talking: Like in that situation, you did the right thing.
• 22:51
  I Hate Talking: You had to go save your child.
• 22:53
  I Hate Talking: I think sometimes, you know, if you take a step back and breathe, let someone else try or let someone else take the lead, and they can.
• 23:02
  I Hate Talking: You do so well at it.
• 23:04
  I Hate Talking: I think people just tend to sit back and let you do it.
• 23:08
  I Hate Talking: And you know how to do many things well.
• 23:12
  I Hate Talking: And I do think that goes back to something that you've been working on where it's.
• 23:16
  I Hate Talking: Doesn't have to always be you for everything.
• 23:19
  I Hate Talking: Indeed.
• 23:21
  I Hate Talking: So, that is the 3rd takeaway.
• 23:23
  I Hate Talking: Is that in some form or fashion, I am seeing myself as the only one taking action, but not necessarily saying that it is the correct thing or even the real thing.
• 23:36
  I Hate Talking: And then 4 and then 4th and final is as I was extending my leg and foot to nudge the particular child.
• 23:49
  I Hate Talking: To change from an action of tumbling backwards to redirecting his motion to one that made him land on his feet.
• 24:01
  I Hate Talking: Is that You cannot necessarily.
• 24:05
  I Hate Talking: Avoid every dangerous situation or every negative outcome, but perhaps you can make it better that I could not reach out and collect the child or I could not prevent the fall to begin with, but that by extending my leg and my foot, I did rest his backwards rotation.
• 24:29
  I Hate Talking: Allowing him to land on his feet instead of his head.
• 24:33
  I Hate Talking: Nice.
• 24:35
  I Hate Talking: So, what was that for again?
• 24:39
  I Hate Talking: Just like summed up.
• 24:41
  I Hate Talking: By a nudge, you can avoid a.
• 24:45
  I Hate Talking: Terrible outcome and instead achieve a bad outcome.
• 24:51
  I Hate Talking: So small change, like a small change can actually do a lot.
• 24:57
  I Hate Talking: Versus doing nothing at all.
• 24:59
  I Hate Talking: Almost But I think the point also is that There wasn't even the ability to do a big change.
• 25:09
  I Hate Talking: That the only thing I could do was a small change, and the small change resulted from the avoidance of a catastrophic outcome to one that was simply bad and unwanted.
• 25:22
  I Hate Talking: -- So -- you did what you could.
• 25:24
  I Hate Talking: Yes.
• 25:25
  I Hate Talking: Even if it wasn't what you wanted to do, completely, you did what your limits allowed you to do.
• 25:32
  I Hate Talking: Correct.
• 25:32
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 25:33
  I Hate Talking: And that's it.
• 25:34
  I Hate Talking: That's the 4 takeaways that I had was manufactured danger.
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  I Hate Talking: And the shouting, causing startlement.
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  I Hate Talking: And the action that I took.
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  I Hate Talking: As well as the nudge that resulted in the avoidance of a catastrophic outcome.
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  I Hate Talking: And then there was the 5th and 6th things which were.
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  I Hate Talking: I don't know.
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  I Hate Talking: See, there, there you go.
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  I Hate Talking: So.
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  I Hate Talking: Oh yes, that's right.
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  I Hate Talking: The light source as like the impetus of this whole scenario and then my ankle hurting that also was.
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  I Hate Talking: Reflective in the fact that that was a particular outcome of this incident as well.
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  I Hate Talking: -- That -- was pretty realistic dream.
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  I Hate Talking: When you start talking about a light source, I started and our kid running to it.
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  I Hate Talking: I thought you were gonna say like, he's running towards the light and we're gonna lose him.
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  I Hate Talking: And like, oh, I was not gonna like that dream.
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  I Hate Talking: -- Sounds -- horrible.
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  I Hate Talking: Now, I have had dreams before.
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  I Hate Talking: Mainly in my childhood, not as much in my adult life, but I don't really recall them ever being unrealistic.
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  I Hate Talking: Interesting.
• 26:46
  I Hate Talking: I had a recurring dream, if we're talking about dreams, throughout my childhood, and I had it recurring.
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  I Hate Talking: Often until we got married, which is a whole Freudian thing, I'm sure, but it was of my father and my dream he was passing, and he wanted all his friends to come have his funeral with him.
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  I Hate Talking: Before he passed, and then me and my mom were sitting there waiting for him to pass.
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  I Hate Talking: And my siblings are like running amok in the background.
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  I Hate Talking: And I was so frustrated with them because I'm like, Don't you see what's happening?
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  I Hate Talking: And I woke up so many times, I would go in my parents' room and cry to my dad, and I had this dream.
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  I Hate Talking: I have not ever had it since we got married.
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  I Hate Talking: I remember it vividly and how I felt in it.
• 27:36
  I Hate Talking: Interesting.
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  I Hate Talking: So perhaps our listeners would be interested in hearing more details about that particular dream and perhaps some of the either real or perceived meaning therein.
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  I Hate Talking: So, from your friends at I Hate Talking, until next time, remember, it is only through talking that we begin the journey to understanding.