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- 0:08Speaker 1: This Sean O'Connell show, you were home of the best
- 0:11Speaker 1: inside of your hutes. Let's get back to oc from
- 0:15Speaker 1: the Murdoch Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety
- 0:19Speaker 1: two to one a f.
- 0:20Speaker 2: M Monster Energy.
- 0:27Speaker 3: Big Twelve Media Days wrapped up yesterday afternoon down there
- 0:32Speaker 3: at the Star in Frisco, Texas. I'll give the Big
- 0:37Speaker 3: twelve credit. It was more organized this year than last.
- 0:41Speaker 3: That's as far as the credit's going to go. I
- 0:43Speaker 3: think some weird decisions are being made in the Big
- 0:45Speaker 3: twelve conference.
- 0:46Speaker 2: We'll talk about that.
- 0:47Speaker 3: We'll talk about takeaways from some of the conversations we
- 0:50Speaker 3: had with Morgan Scally, Lance Holtzklaw, Devin, Dan Pierre, et cetera,
- 0:56Speaker 3: et cetera. Dan Sorenson kind enough to join us here
- 1:01Speaker 3: Utah football insider. As we get him on, we'll pick
- 1:06Speaker 3: brains about some of the big recruiting trips that have
- 1:10Speaker 3: happened at the University of Utah, some of the big
- 1:12Speaker 3: commitments that they've gotten as of late. Dan Sorenson, Welcome
- 1:17Speaker 3: to the show.
- 1:18Speaker 2: How are you doing well?
- 1:20Speaker 4: How are you doing I'm doing all.
- 1:21Speaker 3: Right, man. You know, the media days are the two
- 1:25Speaker 3: only long days of radio in our calendar, so we
- 1:29Speaker 3: had eight hours ish each day and got to talk
- 1:34Speaker 3: to the whole ute contingent yesterday. I know that you
- 1:37Speaker 3: were listening to it, aggregating all the content, et cetera,
- 1:41Speaker 3: et cetera. Did you have any major takeaways? Was there
- 1:43Speaker 3: anything that really stuck out for you from media Day?
- 1:47Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:48Speaker 4: Look, media day's a lot of fun, and I know
- 1:50Speaker 4: it's especially a long day for you. Of course, we
- 1:52Speaker 4: had Sammy Mora from you Zone down on site. I
- 1:56Speaker 4: listened pretty heavily yesterday, and look, it was a good day.
- 2:01Speaker 4: I think the things that really stood out to me
- 2:03Speaker 4: were a it was a good opportunity for Morgan Scally
- 2:07Speaker 4: to introduce himself to the rest of the conference. And
- 2:11Speaker 4: one of my favorite things that he did was in
- 2:13Speaker 4: his press conference where he was talking about recruiting Colin Klein,
- 2:17Speaker 4: the Kansas State coach, as a quarterback out of Colorado
- 2:21Speaker 4: and talking about his respect for him and talking about
- 2:24Speaker 4: his respect for some of the other coaches that are
- 2:26Speaker 4: around the league. And I think that that kind of
- 2:28Speaker 4: thing plays really well as well it should, and so
- 2:32Speaker 4: that was a good opportunity.
- 2:34Speaker 2: It was nice to see some of the.
- 2:37Speaker 4: Players and have an opportunity to show their personalities. You
- 2:43Speaker 4: guys did a great interview yesterday with way Sean Parker
- 2:46Speaker 4: and talking about things beyond football and things like an
- 2:50Speaker 4: il and real estate investment and you know, weird things
- 2:54Speaker 4: like that. But having a chance to get to know
- 2:56Speaker 4: him and the character that he is and the personnel
- 3:00Speaker 4: that he has. You know, a lot of people see
- 3:03Speaker 4: that in in Devin damp here because he's visible, right,
- 3:09Speaker 4: but it's you don't You don't always get that with
- 3:11Speaker 4: some of the other guys, and there are some impressive
- 3:13Speaker 4: guys on the squad, so it was really nice to
- 3:16Speaker 4: see an opportunity for those guys to shine and and
- 3:19Speaker 4: show their personality to fans and that sort of thing.
- 3:22Speaker 4: From a news perspective, I never really expect to see
- 3:25Speaker 4: a lot uh coming out of these days, especially because
- 3:29Speaker 4: it's pretty fall camp for everybody, and so everybody's still undefeated,
- 3:33Speaker 4: everybody is still optimistic, everybody's still a champion.
- 3:36Speaker 2: In their mind. Whether it's realistic or not.
- 3:38Speaker 4: But overall, it was a good opportunity for the program
- 3:41Speaker 4: to showcase himself, especially to the other regions in the conference.
- 3:46Speaker 3: How realistic is optimism for Utah football in Morgan Scalley's
- 3:51Speaker 3: first year as a head coach, in a year where
- 3:54Speaker 3: you've got to replace five starters on the offensive line,
- 3:57Speaker 3: in a year where you know your defensive line lost
- 4:00Speaker 3: some production in the transfer portal, and things like that.
- 4:03Speaker 3: I mean, you've got two sides to the argument, and
- 4:06Speaker 3: I don't really need to lay them out for you. You've
- 4:08Speaker 3: got the consistency of a guy that's been on campus
- 4:12Speaker 3: for twenty plus years taking over the reins as the
- 4:15Speaker 3: head coach. And then you've got the turnover of you know,
- 4:18Speaker 3: just attrition to the NFL graduation, transfer portal, etc. That
- 4:23Speaker 3: have taken undeniably some of the best players off of
- 4:26Speaker 3: last year's team. You look at the schedule, you look
- 4:30Speaker 3: at the fact that it is sometimes difficult for a
- 4:32Speaker 3: first year head coach to get his feet under him
- 4:34Speaker 3: right away. How realistic is it for Utah fans to
- 4:39Speaker 3: expect a ten win season, like a lot of people
- 4:41Speaker 3: seem to.
- 4:43Speaker 4: Look, I'm the hashtag team fun guy, right, So I'm
- 4:46Speaker 4: always gonna lean towards the optimism side of the equation,
- 4:51Speaker 4: especially cautious optimism in regards to this year. And so, look,
- 4:58Speaker 4: it's not unrealistic for this program.
- 5:01Speaker 2: To go out and make a.
- 5:04Speaker 4: Huge statement in Morgan Scalley's first year. Yes, you laid
- 5:09Speaker 4: out some of those things in terms of the things
- 5:13Speaker 4: that we don't know, and look, Scali's never been a
- 5:16Speaker 4: head coach. There are things he doesn't know what he
- 5:18Speaker 4: doesn't know yet. Sometimes you just have to experience the
- 5:22Speaker 4: thing before you can really know how you're going to react.
- 5:26Speaker 4: I don't know that I've ever seen a head coach
- 5:28Speaker 4: be as prepared for the moment that Morgan scally is
- 5:32Speaker 4: right now. He's a smart guy. He's been making himself
- 5:37Speaker 4: ready to take over this program and put his stamp
- 5:41Speaker 4: on it, and the players really seem to.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Have bought in.
- 5:45Speaker 4: But at the same time, I'm not going.
- 5:46Speaker 2: To really say anybody's wrong.
- 5:49Speaker 4: For picking Utah fifth or sixth in the league and
- 5:51Speaker 4: being skeptical about Morgan Scalley. The reason that I think
- 5:55Speaker 4: that it's realistic for the youth to make a statement
- 5:57Speaker 4: has got less to do with Scali and his coaching
- 6:00Speaker 4: staff and everything to do with who the starting quarterback is.
- 6:05Speaker 4: Anybody that's been watching college football for a long time,
- 6:08Speaker 4: you know that a strong quarterback can cover up an
- 6:12Speaker 4: awful lot of flaws on a team and can account
- 6:17Speaker 4: for It's the one position where that player can account
- 6:20Speaker 4: for wins almost by themselves. Scaley he said it yesterday
- 6:25Speaker 4: or yesterday at Big twelve media day, where last year
- 6:28Speaker 4: we saw Devin dan Pierre and he was hurt all
- 6:30Speaker 4: year long, We've not seen a healthy Dev take snaps
- 6:34Speaker 4: behind center at the University of Utah, and look, he
- 6:38Speaker 4: was so explosive at New Mexico. We saw so many
- 6:41Speaker 4: good things he did last year that he.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Can build upon. And now that.
- 6:46Speaker 4: He's fully healthy, if he can stay healthy and have
- 6:49Speaker 4: a strong season, that there really aren't a lot.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Of limits that this team can reach.
- 6:55Speaker 4: It's basically how far can Devin lead them as assuming
- 6:59Speaker 4: that we see the kind of play that we expect
- 7:01Speaker 4: out of him. And so look, it's a lot of
- 7:04Speaker 4: pressure to put on one guy and a lot of
- 7:06Speaker 4: expectation to put on one guy. And yes, Bird Ficklin's
- 7:09Speaker 4: waiting in the wings. Yes, there are other factors, like
- 7:12Speaker 4: the fact that there's a new offensive coordinator.
- 7:15Speaker 2: There are going to be some marinekles to the system.
- 7:17Speaker 4: But given who the Uths have at quarterback, given the
- 7:21Speaker 4: fact that they've got a revamped wide receiver room that
- 7:23Speaker 4: Scali has repeatedly said it might be the best wide
- 7:27Speaker 4: receiver room in the history of the program.
- 7:30Speaker 2: Which those are bold words. Coming out of the gate.
- 7:33Speaker 2: There's a lot of reason.
- 7:34Speaker 4: For optimism if Dampster stays healthy, if he can do
- 7:40Speaker 4: the magic things that he did while he was at
- 7:42Speaker 4: New Mexico. Even if the offensive line takes a step back,
- 7:45Speaker 4: which we fully expect them to do, I still think
- 7:49Speaker 4: that this offense can score a lot of points, the
- 7:51Speaker 4: defense should be good enough, and this team can win
- 7:54Speaker 4: a lot of games coming out of the gate.
- 7:56Speaker 2: In your one for Morgan Scali.
- 7:59Speaker 3: Danswer on SIMS our guests here on the Sean O'Connell
- 8:01Speaker 3: scho talk and takeaways from media days. Utah on the
- 8:05Speaker 3: docket yesterday BYU and Texas Tech, and some of those
- 8:08Speaker 3: teams were day one of media Day, and look, I
- 8:12Speaker 3: think that you can't talk about the outlook for this
- 8:15Speaker 3: Utah season without mentioning the fact that those teams seem
- 8:19Speaker 3: to be the number one obstacle between you and a
- 8:22Speaker 3: conference championship, you and a college football playoff. Tech is
- 8:26Speaker 3: still loaded even without Brendan Soresby. BYU might be more loaded,
- 8:31Speaker 3: depending on which lens you're looking at it, and you
- 8:34Speaker 3: have to play them. Obviously, the rivalry game has all
- 8:37Speaker 3: of this weight to it, especially now that Utah has
- 8:40Speaker 3: lost a few on the bounce consecutive losses building for
- 8:45Speaker 3: this Utah football program, and I feel like that's a
- 8:48Speaker 3: massive thing. It's something that you have to reverse sooner
- 8:51Speaker 3: than later for recruiting, for perception, for power balance. Obviously
- 8:57Speaker 3: in the Big Twelve we get to focus on it.
- 9:00Speaker 3: The team has to go game by game. But what
- 9:03Speaker 3: do you think of the rivalry game coming up in November.
- 9:07Speaker 2: It's going to be a monster game.
- 9:08Speaker 4: Look, I am with you, A b YU is going
- 9:11Speaker 4: to be a really good football team this fall. Beart
- 9:14Speaker 4: Bockmeier is more experienced.
- 9:16Speaker 2: They got LJ. Martin back that defense.
- 9:18Speaker 4: It's they lost some pieces, but they added some big pieces,
- 9:21Speaker 4: especially in Kidululave. So there's there's definitely that that is
- 9:28Speaker 4: a squad that I think is going to be on
- 9:30Speaker 4: a mission. I think they're going to rally around Kilani
- 9:33Speaker 4: Sataki And yes they lost players, they lost coaches as well.
- 9:39Speaker 2: That what they're going to do without j.
- 9:41Speaker 4: Hill calling plays on the defense is a big question.
- 9:43Speaker 4: But Gary Anderson still involved in that program. There's a
- 9:47Speaker 4: brain trust around Kilani.
- 9:49Speaker 2: So I do think that that BYU is going to
- 9:51Speaker 2: be really good.
- 9:52Speaker 4: The fact that the youth have at Ricycle Stadium is.
- 9:55Speaker 2: Great for them.
- 9:56Speaker 4: And and really when you look at that at the
- 9:59Speaker 4: U tough season, I really think it's going to be
- 10:02Speaker 4: defined by that three week stretch in November beginning on
- 10:06Speaker 4: the seventh with BYU. Can the youths beat that three
- 10:10Speaker 4: game losing streak and knock that away and put themselves
- 10:15Speaker 4: above BYU in that race to get to the conference
- 10:18Speaker 4: championship game. Then the week later they go to Arizona,
- 10:21Speaker 4: who I think is going to be very very good,
- 10:24Speaker 4: and they've got a senior quarterback much in the vein
- 10:28Speaker 4: of Devin damp Here that can make plays with his
- 10:30Speaker 4: legs that can win football games for them by himself.
- 10:33Speaker 2: And then of course the road.
- 10:35Speaker 4: Game at TCU on the twenty first, and so those
- 10:39Speaker 4: two road.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Game road games back.
- 10:40Speaker 4: To back, and Utah needing to go down to Dallas
- 10:43Speaker 4: Fort Worth, and look, I don't know that TCU is
- 10:46Speaker 4: going to be a juggernaut per se, but it's still
- 10:50Speaker 4: a tough trip to make. It's the longest road game
- 10:52Speaker 4: that the youths have this year and so and it's
- 10:55Speaker 4: back to back after BYU after a very good Arizona team.
- 10:59Speaker 4: So if the youths can get through that stretch, they're
- 11:01Speaker 4: going to be sitting pretty and we can be talking
- 11:04Speaker 4: about potentially college football playoffs.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Yes, they've got Houston on.
- 11:08Speaker 4: The twenty fourth, and Houston I think is going to
- 11:10Speaker 4: be really good, but that's going to be in Salt
- 11:12Speaker 4: Lake City. The rest of the Big Twelve schedule looks
- 11:14Speaker 4: pretty favorable for the use and so those three games
- 11:18Speaker 4: are going to be critically important, and it's going to
- 11:21Speaker 4: be about how healthy can Morgan Scalley keep this team,
- 11:24Speaker 4: how bought in can he keep them long term? And
- 11:28Speaker 4: how focused can he keep them long term?
- 11:31Speaker 2: And can they come out and can they.
- 11:32Speaker 4: Perform when the pressure is on.
- 11:35Speaker 2: There's a really good chance that by the.
- 11:36Speaker 4: Time that Utah hits that YU game that they're undefeated
- 11:40Speaker 4: or maybe one loss. I would not be surprised at
- 11:43Speaker 4: all if that were the case. And so if that's
- 11:46Speaker 4: the case, then the pressure really gets dialed up because
- 11:49Speaker 4: those are the toughest opponents and the time where they
- 11:52Speaker 4: really need to perform and can a Morgan Scaley team
- 11:58Speaker 4: rise to the occasion. We don't know that answer yet,
- 12:01Speaker 4: and you know, youth fans are hoping and betting that
- 12:04Speaker 4: yes they will. But man, that stretch is going to
- 12:07Speaker 4: be brutal, and that BYU game is the most important
- 12:09Speaker 4: one on the entire schedule.
- 12:13Speaker 3: Since the last time we spoke, uh Utah got a
- 12:16Speaker 3: rash of commitments from important players on their on their
- 12:20Speaker 3: list important recruiting targets. Do you have a favorite in
- 12:24Speaker 3: the class for the twenty twenty seven commits?
- 12:27Speaker 4: Yeah, really, it's it's it's like your kids, right, which
- 12:31Speaker 4: which's which one.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Do you like the most?
- 12:34Speaker 4: There are really two that that I really like. And
- 12:36Speaker 4: this is an interesting class.
- 12:39Speaker 2: The youths have have done, have they? They put less.
- 12:42Speaker 4: Emphasis on big names and more emphasis on their ability
- 12:47Speaker 4: to scout and their ability to project.
- 12:49Speaker 2: And the two guys that.
- 12:51Speaker 4: I really really love for the class are actually both
- 12:54Speaker 4: coming in as cornerbacks, both of them from Texas. One
- 12:58Speaker 4: of them is Jaydon Bibbs to Copple High School in Copple, Texas.
- 13:02Speaker 4: He's a high three star, a second highest ranked recruit
- 13:06Speaker 4: in the class for the utes love him. He made
- 13:11Speaker 4: his announcements just after the nineteenth or he was the
- 13:16Speaker 4: first really of that big wave of commits that came through,
- 13:20Speaker 4: but it was basically Utah Baylor at the end. And
- 13:24Speaker 4: this is a kid that, frankly, I think that he's
- 13:28Speaker 4: severely underrated in terms of his rankings. When you watch
- 13:31Speaker 4: his film. He is aggressive, he is mean as a
- 13:35Speaker 4: corner He's got elite speed, he's got elite covered skills,
- 13:39Speaker 4: he can flip his hips. He reminds me a lot
- 13:42Speaker 4: of from.
- 13:44Speaker 2: A play style of Jalen Johnson.
- 13:45Speaker 4: I don't know that he's quite as talented as Jalen was.
- 13:48Speaker 4: He was special, which is why he's one of the
- 13:50Speaker 4: best cornerbacks in the NFL right now. But from an
- 13:54Speaker 4: attitude and a mentality and a style of play, that's
- 13:57Speaker 4: what he reminds me of.
- 13:58Speaker 2: And he's a guy that I think.
- 14:00Speaker 4: Is going to really succeed under Sharif Shaw. Similarly, Bud Jacobs,
- 14:05Speaker 4: so Drod Jacobs.
- 14:06Speaker 2: Is his is his given name.
- 14:08Speaker 4: His nickname is Bug, which is one of the all
- 14:11Speaker 4: time great nicknames for a Utah commit. But six two,
- 14:14Speaker 4: one seventy five out of Memorial High School in Port Arthur, Texas,
- 14:18Speaker 4: another high rated three star kid. He's played mostly safety,
- 14:23Speaker 4: so at the high school level. He's going to play
- 14:25Speaker 4: cornerback for the Utes. And another guy that he's a
- 14:29Speaker 4: guy that basically, if you took Scooby Davis's cover skills
- 14:33Speaker 4: and mixed it with Marquees Blair's flair for hitting, that's
- 14:37Speaker 4: the kind of game that he plays. He's aggressive, he
- 14:40Speaker 4: will lay the wood. He's got that athleticism and the
- 14:44Speaker 4: speed that he needs to play corner. He's going to
- 14:47Speaker 4: be a long corner, which Utah loves. He can play
- 14:49Speaker 4: nickel like what we're going to see out of rock
- 14:52Speaker 4: Caled Wellness Fall, or he can play outside and so
- 14:55Speaker 4: he's he's a versatile piece there. And he's another guy
- 14:58Speaker 4: that he's just a a humble, lunch pale, go to
- 15:02Speaker 4: work kind of guy. We talked to his high school coach,
- 15:05Speaker 4: and the guy just raved about him and who he
- 15:08Speaker 4: is as a leader, who he is as a worker
- 15:11Speaker 4: in the weight room, studying film at the high school
- 15:14Speaker 4: level even and his dedication to really improving his craft.
- 15:19Speaker 4: And so he's another guy that I'm really excited to
- 15:21Speaker 4: see what will happen when he gets on campus.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Working with Sharif Shaw.
- 15:25Speaker 4: Well, we probably aren't going to see them in the
- 15:28Speaker 4: first year, other than special teams, but beginning year two,
- 15:32Speaker 4: year three, these are guys that are going to have
- 15:34Speaker 4: an opportunity to establish themselves and potentially play and start
- 15:39Speaker 4: multiple years. They're far and away my two favorite players
- 15:42Speaker 4: in the class.
- 15:44Speaker 3: You know, I could pick your brain all day. We
- 15:46Speaker 3: do have to try to stay on clock. I appreciate
- 15:49Speaker 3: you giving us some time. Let's chat again soon.
- 15:53Speaker 4: Absolutely thanks for having me on and have a great weekend.
- 15:56Speaker 3: Dan Sorensini, you Zone