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- 0:05Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to another edition of Community DC.
- 0:08Speaker 1: I'm your host, Dennis Colasco. This morning, we welcome to
- 0:10Speaker 1: the program for the first time, Lauren Mayer. She is
- 0:13Speaker 1: the Chief Operating Officer for the World Wildlife Fund US,
- 0:17Speaker 1: a nonprofit located in Washington, DC, and their mission and
- 0:20Speaker 1: vision is to protect nature, stop environmental degradation, and build
- 0:24Speaker 1: a future where people live in harmony with wild animals
- 0:26Speaker 1: and plants. Here's my conversation with Lauren. We cover a
- 0:29Speaker 1: lot over the next 30 minutes, so I hope you
- 0:31Speaker 1: enjoy it as much as I did.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Good morning, Lauren. Good morning. So happy to be here.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Well, it's great to have you on Community DC here
- 0:38Speaker 1: at iHeart. And I am truly excited to talk to
- 0:42Speaker 1: you about WWF US. And I can't believe this first
- 0:46Speaker 1: time we've had you in the program. And I'm so
- 0:47Speaker 1: glad that I found you guys. I've known about you
- 0:49Speaker 1: for a long time. And now you've been around since 1961.
- 0:51Speaker 1: You've been with the organization for six plus years. And
- 0:54Speaker 1: there's so much that I want to ask you, but
- 0:56Speaker 1: also I want to educate our listeners about. But I
- 0:58Speaker 1: would love, because as I found out you were going
- 1:00Speaker 1: to be on the program, I looked back Everything started
- 1:02Speaker 1: in 1961. Can you give us a brief history how
- 1:05Speaker 1: things started and why they started back then?
- 1:08Speaker 3: Yeah, we were started by a group of people in
- 1:10Speaker 3: Europe who were strong conservationists. They loved wildlife and they
- 1:16Speaker 3: were concerned that big species were going to go extinct.
- 1:20Speaker 3: And so one of the very first things that that
- 1:22Speaker 3: team of people did was was put together a campaign
- 1:25Speaker 3: to try to help the rhinoceros. And they thought their
- 1:28Speaker 3: idea was they would collect money to fund work to
- 1:31Speaker 3: send out to support animals. But we quickly learned over
- 1:36Speaker 3: time that you can't just support the animals. You also
- 1:39Speaker 3: have to think about their habitat and their environment. And
- 1:42Speaker 3: it turns out that if you start to think about
- 1:44Speaker 3: the whole ecosystem and the environment, it's good for animals
- 1:47Speaker 3: and it's good for people too.
- 1:49Speaker 1: You know, I usually in this series talk to people
- 1:51Speaker 1: about leadership, but I want to move forward on that
- 1:53Speaker 1: because I did want to ask you something. You have
- 1:55Speaker 1: such an incredible resume of different organizations that I've been
- 1:58Speaker 1: found of my whole life, and that's PBS and NPR,
- 2:02Speaker 1: just great institutions out there. What did you take from
- 2:05Speaker 1: those as you saw WWF and joining them about why
- 2:10Speaker 1: you came from and what you were going to?
- 2:12Speaker 3: Oh, what a great question. Yeah, I feel very fortunate.
- 2:15Speaker 3: I've worked for some amazing organizations in my career. And
- 2:18Speaker 3: for me, I've just always had a real focus on
- 2:21Speaker 3: mission in my work. And so I loved working with
- 2:24Speaker 3: public media. I just think the role of local media
- 2:28Speaker 3: is so important. And PBS does a tremendous job in
- 2:31Speaker 3: terms of all the educational work that they did. And
- 2:34Speaker 3: then I had an opportunity to go to NPR. playing
- 2:37Speaker 3: a similar operations role to what I play now, really
- 2:40Speaker 3: thinking about the whole operations of the organization, fundraising all
- 2:43Speaker 3: the pieces of how things fit together. And I'm a
- 2:47Speaker 3: huge fan and a big believer in the importance of
- 2:50Speaker 3: journalism in democracy. And in my role, I got to
- 2:53Speaker 3: really help be a problem solver behind the scenes to
- 2:56Speaker 3: help put all the pieces together and help the journalists
- 2:58Speaker 3: do what they needed to do.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Well, you know, I agree with that. And I was
- 3:02Speaker 1: just going to say there are a ton of similarities
- 3:04Speaker 1: from what you had done Oh.
- 3:08Speaker 2: There are.
- 3:08Speaker 3: Yeah. So I was just going to say, you know,
- 3:11Speaker 3: the thing is, I feel really passionate about journalism and
- 3:14Speaker 3: freedom of the press. But often when I would come
- 3:16Speaker 3: home at night, the thing that would just keep me
- 3:19Speaker 3: up was less thinking about. the media, and more thinking
- 3:23Speaker 3: about the state of the planet. And I felt like
- 3:26Speaker 3: I really wanted to work for an organization that was
- 3:28Speaker 3: purely focused on that issue. And I feel very fortunate
- 3:32Speaker 3: that there are a lot of parallels in terms of
- 3:34Speaker 3: the work. So both organizations are federated systems. They rely
- 3:39Speaker 3: on a wide range of revenues, including membership. They're organizations
- 3:44Speaker 3: that have a team of real dedicated people, whether that's
- 3:47Speaker 3: journalists at NPR or scientists at WWF. And the role
- 3:51Speaker 3: I get to do is to think about how do
- 3:53Speaker 3: we help them achieve their work to the best degree possible?
- 3:56Speaker 3: How do we eliminate all of the sand in the
- 3:59Speaker 3: gears to help the organizations work seamlessly so we can
- 4:03Speaker 3: achieve the mission?
- 4:04Speaker 1: Outstanding. Well, thanks for indulging me about that. I've been
- 4:07Speaker 1: in the industry for 30 years in radio and TV,
- 4:09Speaker 1: mainly sports, but I do things like this, too. And
- 4:12Speaker 1: I'm always in awe of people who have worked for great,
- 4:15Speaker 1: respected institutions. And it's just fantastic. So I'm very happy
- 4:20Speaker 1: for you. And I'm glad that gets to continue at
- 4:22Speaker 1: WWF US. I did want to ask you about this.
- 4:25Speaker 1: We do want to get into all the key activities
- 4:27Speaker 1: because there are a lot that I want to educate
- 4:29Speaker 1: our listeners about. But I also know that when it
- 4:32Speaker 1: comes to core mission and the vision that you have,
- 4:35Speaker 1: those are ultra important, especially at a nonprofit like yours.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Can you talk about those?
- 4:40Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 4:41Speaker 2: I mean, mission is key to what we do.
- 4:44Speaker 3: And here at WWF, a focus on nature really anchors
- 4:49Speaker 3: everything that we do. We believe that we need nature
- 4:55Speaker 3: to survive and that nature also needs us and now
- 4:58Speaker 3: more than ever. And so our goal is to help
- 5:00Speaker 3: people value and protect nature so that we can have
- 5:04Speaker 3: a place where people, species and the overall planet can thrive.
- 5:09Speaker 1: All right. I want to talk about some of the
- 5:11Speaker 1: key activities. And there are a bunch of different buckets
- 5:14Speaker 1: that I want to tackle with you. And we can
- 5:16Speaker 1: just go over each one, but they are the conserve wildlife,
- 5:19Speaker 1: protect habitat, the fight climate change, also promote sustainability and
- 5:26Speaker 1: support communities. Let's start with conserve wildlife. Tell me a
- 5:29Speaker 1: little bit about that. I know that's kind of what
- 5:31Speaker 1: everybody associates with you. There's much more to that, isn't there?
- 5:34Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
- 5:35Speaker 3: I mean, people think about WWF, if they do, and
- 5:38Speaker 3: they often think about our logo, which is the panda, right?
- 5:40Speaker 3: And wildlife is in our name. And so that's the
- 5:43Speaker 3: core DNA of our organization. That's what the founders cared
- 5:46Speaker 3: most about. And supporting wildlife and species is still really
- 5:51Speaker 3: critical in the work we do. We work all over
- 5:54Speaker 3: the globe on this, thinking about critical species, some of
- 5:58Speaker 3: which are the kinds of things that you think about.
- 6:00Speaker 3: So we do a lot of work in the Northern
- 6:02Speaker 3: Great Plains working restoring herds of buffalo, working with native
- 6:07Speaker 3: nations there to do that. But we also work with
- 6:11Speaker 3: tigers and snow leopards. We work with elephants and jaguars
- 6:16Speaker 3: all throughout Latin America. But we work with species that
- 6:19Speaker 3: sometimes people don't think about. So monarch butterflies, for example,
- 6:23Speaker 3: are really critical. And they have this incredible journey that
- 6:28Speaker 3: they take from Latin America all the way up to
- 6:31Speaker 3: Canada and back again. And their habitats are shrinking. So
- 6:35Speaker 3: we've been working to make sure that those habitats stay intact.
- 6:39Speaker 3: And we work with animals that people don't necessarily think about,
- 6:41Speaker 3: like the black-footed ferret, which is an American species, again,
- 6:46Speaker 3: in the West that's been on the brink of extinction
- 6:49Speaker 3: and that we've really worked to help bring back.
- 6:52Speaker 1: You know, I know that world is in the title
- 6:54Speaker 1: of your name, but I think a lot of people say,
- 6:56Speaker 1: wait a minute, they cover the planet? Well, yeah, there's
- 6:58Speaker 1: animals all over the planet. But what I'm also thinking
- 7:00Speaker 1: about as you talk about that, the communication that you
- 7:03Speaker 1: have to have with all these nations and all these species,
- 7:06Speaker 1: all the balls that you're chuckling here must be truly incredible.
- 7:09Speaker 2: How do you do that?
- 7:11Speaker 3: Well, we're fortunate to be part of a global network.
- 7:14Speaker 3: So there's WWF here in the U.S. There are WWF
- 7:17Speaker 3: offices all around the world, and we partner with them
- 7:20Speaker 3: very closely. And so that really helps. That means that
- 7:24Speaker 3: we can have a global reach, but we also have
- 7:27Speaker 3: local people on the ground who are really embedded in
- 7:31Speaker 3: those communities and those ecosystems.
- 7:33Speaker 1: And just kind of a follow-up to that, how often
- 7:35Speaker 1: you get to talk to your peers around the nation
- 7:37Speaker 1: to make sure that you're up to speed on everything?
- 7:38Speaker 1: What's the communication look like?
- 7:41Speaker 3: There is quite a lot of communication, as you might imagine.
- 7:45Speaker 3: So we have, as a global network, we have a
- 7:47Speaker 3: number of standing committees. So I'm part of a group
- 7:50Speaker 3: of chief operating officers around the globe, which is just
- 7:54Speaker 3: an amazing asset to be able to talk to people
- 7:57Speaker 3: in Europe and Africa about the kind of challenges that
- 7:59Speaker 3: they're facing. And then there's lots of informal communications and
- 8:03Speaker 3: times when we actually bring a lot of leaders together
- 8:06Speaker 3: so that we can spend time face to face. So
- 8:08Speaker 3: it happens on a wide range of levels. Always challenging
- 8:12Speaker 3: sometimes and you know, there's cultural differences and sometimes you
- 8:15Speaker 3: miss things, but one of the real joys of being
- 8:18Speaker 3: part of this network is knowing that you can call
- 8:21Speaker 3: somebody in Nepal, right? Or that we can support somebody
- 8:24Speaker 3: really far away. It's a wonderful thing.
- 8:27Speaker 1: But I guess as we're going to find out, you
- 8:28Speaker 1: also truly have some of the same goals too, which
- 8:31Speaker 1: I think is truly incredible with the whole world. And
- 8:33Speaker 1: that's really the exciting part of what you do. I
- 8:36Speaker 1: want to talk about protecting habitat. Now, this is something
- 8:38Speaker 1: we also hear about, but I imagine this goes very deep.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Can you talk about that?
- 8:43Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
- 8:44Speaker 3: I mean, I think one of the really interesting things
- 8:46Speaker 3: about the way that WWF works is We're problem solvers.
- 8:51Speaker 2: We're science-based. We believe that you have to think about
- 8:55Speaker 2: the whole.
- 8:55Speaker 3: You need to have a systems thinking lens and that
- 8:58Speaker 3: you have to take a whole of society approach. So
- 9:00Speaker 3: if you're going to work in a big place, you
- 9:03Speaker 3: have to work with everybody. You need to work with communities.
- 9:06Speaker 3: You need to work with scientists. You need to work
- 9:07Speaker 3: with governments, with companies. And so it's bringing all of
- 9:10Speaker 3: those pieces together is really essential if you're going to
- 9:13Speaker 3: make a change at the habitat level. And so we
- 9:17Speaker 3: focus on some of the most critical places in terms
- 9:20Speaker 3: of biodiversity and climate change around the planet. So we're
- 9:23Speaker 3: very focused on the Amazon, for example. which has a
- 9:26Speaker 3: huge impact on weather and on sequestering carbon for everyone.
- 9:31Speaker 3: We work a lot in the Mekong, similarly, and in
- 9:33Speaker 3: the Congo. Those are three critical basins for us that
- 9:36Speaker 3: play a really big role in the overall health of
- 9:39Speaker 3: the planet. And in places like that, we're trying to
- 9:42Speaker 3: really take that broader holistic view. So you're thinking about
- 9:47Speaker 3: a place, you're thinking about, are there protected areas? Is
- 9:50Speaker 3: there part of the place where the animals have protection?
- 9:53Speaker 3: How do we think about community lands and working lands, right?
- 9:56Speaker 3: Is there farming that goes on? How does that support
- 9:59Speaker 3: and control?
- 10:00Speaker 2: To it?
- 10:01Speaker 3: We think about things like infrastructure because one of the
- 10:04Speaker 3: things we know is if you build a road, deforestation
- 10:07Speaker 3: tends to happen really quickly along that road. So where
- 10:10Speaker 3: you put that road is going to make a huge difference.
- 10:13Speaker 3: And it's pretty easy to think about that you know,
- 10:17Speaker 3: at the drawing board up front before you've started. But
- 10:19Speaker 3: once that road is in place, I was just talking
- 10:22Speaker 3: to a colleague who was saying like, the Roman roads,
- 10:24Speaker 3: we're still using them, right? Once you build some of
- 10:27Speaker 3: this infrastructure, it is there for a really long time.
- 10:29Speaker 3: And so working to think about how you manage that
- 10:32Speaker 3: is also really important.
- 10:34Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad that you, I want to talk
- 10:36Speaker 1: more about this because I think you can imagine that
- 10:38Speaker 1: if you were living in a small little community and
- 10:40Speaker 1: somebody started plowing into your place, well, that would encroach
- 10:43Speaker 1: on you. And this is the same kind of thing
- 10:45Speaker 1: that we have to think about that if there's deforestation
- 10:49Speaker 1: going on or if there are roads or an industry
- 10:51Speaker 1: is coming in, whether they're drilling or mining, whatever, we're
- 10:55Speaker 1: going into a natural habitat and we're encroaching on that,
- 10:58Speaker 1: which changes the whole dynamic, doesn't it?
- 11:00Speaker 2: It does.
- 11:01Speaker 3: And you have to think about the balance of things, right?
- 11:04Speaker 3: So people aren't just building a road probably just because, right?
- 11:08Speaker 3: They're thinking about we need more land for cattle so
- 11:12Speaker 3: that we can feed people, which is incredibly important, but
- 11:14Speaker 3: that leads to deforestation. which can lead to warmer climates
- 11:18Speaker 3: and other kinds of wildfires, all kinds of issues. So
- 11:22Speaker 3: you constantly have to balance what are we trying to
- 11:25Speaker 3: achieve for the planet? How do we think about supporting
- 11:28Speaker 3: the animals? How do we think about supporting those communities
- 11:31Speaker 3: that rely on them and business and all of us
- 11:33Speaker 3: who then are consumers of that?
- 11:35Speaker 1: I imagine you get some large companies that understand what
- 11:39Speaker 1: you and your team do worldwide and then some that
- 11:41Speaker 1: don't care. With that said... Do you forge some kind
- 11:44Speaker 1: of a relationship with different companies out there just to
- 11:47Speaker 1: have maybe an understanding, at least a dialogue when they're
- 11:49Speaker 1: doing what they're doing and they know what you're trying
- 11:51Speaker 1: to do as well?
- 11:53Speaker 3: Yeah, I think one of the really important ways that
- 11:55Speaker 3: we work is we do partner with a number of
- 11:57Speaker 3: big companies. And, you know, many sophisticated companies understand that
- 12:03Speaker 3: nature is an important part of their supply chain. So
- 12:07Speaker 3: if you're Coca-Cola and there's no water supply, You don't
- 12:11Speaker 3: have a product. And Coca-Cola understands that. If you're Walmart
- 12:16Speaker 3: and you want to be sure that you can deliver
- 12:18Speaker 3: products at an affordable cost, you need a good supply.
- 12:21Speaker 2: Chain that's going to help you get there.
- 12:24Speaker 3: And if there's floods and droughts, it's going to raise
- 12:27Speaker 3: the price of goods and that's going to hurt you.
- 12:29Speaker 2: So it's not.
- 12:31Speaker 3: Being pro-nature and pro-business are not on opposite ends of
- 12:34Speaker 3: the spectrum. Actually, they're best when they come together.
- 12:37Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about fighting climate change. I know
- 12:40Speaker 1: this is a big one.
- 12:42Speaker 2: Well, it's very challenging.
- 12:44Speaker 3: And so we do a lot on the policy side
- 12:48Speaker 3: to think about how do we encourage more.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Use of renewables.
- 12:52Speaker 3: We also, one of the things I think is interesting,
- 12:55Speaker 3: I didn't come from a conservation background. And when I
- 12:58Speaker 3: joined WWF, I had no idea that for people in
- 13:02Speaker 3: the world, when they say nature and they say climate,
- 13:05Speaker 3: they think about two different things. In my mind, they
- 13:08Speaker 3: were absolutely the same, nature and climate all together. But actually,
- 13:12Speaker 3: you can do solutions that are good for climate that
- 13:15Speaker 3: might not be good for nature. So you might build
- 13:19Speaker 3: a dam, which gives you hydropower, which is good from
- 13:22Speaker 3: an energy perspective, but that dam might block a free-flowing
- 13:26Speaker 3: river and might be terrible for communities downstream or fish downstream.
- 13:31Speaker 3: And so thinking about things like how do we cite
- 13:34Speaker 3: those enterprises becomes an.
- 13:36Speaker 2: Important piece of what we do.
- 13:38Speaker 3: How do we bring together the challenges that climate change
- 13:41Speaker 3: brings with threats to biodiversity and nature?
- 13:45Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking about this as I was
- 13:46Speaker 1: reading some of your key activities and also your background.
- 13:49Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever could have predicted to
- 13:52Speaker 1: where we are in 2026 that climate change and the
- 13:55Speaker 1: politics behind it And the news that goes with it
- 13:59Speaker 1: could be challenged. And I just imagine it makes it
- 14:03Speaker 1: that much harder for you. It doesn't mean you're not
- 14:04Speaker 1: going to fight it and you're not going to do
- 14:06Speaker 1: what you do. But it's being challenged by half of
- 14:09Speaker 1: the world out there at times. It makes it just
- 14:11Speaker 1: that much more difficult.
- 14:14Speaker 2: It does. But I also think.
- 14:17Speaker 3: Every day we're seeing evidence that the planet is out
- 14:20Speaker 3: of balance.
- 14:21Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:22Speaker 2: Whatever you call that.
- 14:23Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just thinking about the terrible flooding in
- 14:25Speaker 3: Nepal from last week.
- 14:27Speaker 1: Yeah, devastating.
- 14:27Speaker 3: Devastating, you know, because of melting in a glacial lake.
- 14:31Speaker 3: So the planet is changing and we're going to have
- 14:34Speaker 3: to respond to that for all kinds of economic and
- 14:37Speaker 3: humanitarian reasons.
- 14:39Speaker 1: All right. Let's talk about sustainability. This is also one.
- 14:42Speaker 1: They're all big, but this is a big one. It's
- 14:44Speaker 1: one that I practice at home with my family. And,
- 14:47Speaker 1: you know, at time, I think we got our little
- 14:49Speaker 1: acts together, but then I think we don't talk about
- 14:52Speaker 1: that because this is also a really big one.
- 14:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you can think about sustainability on a
- 14:57Speaker 3: number of different scales. So one of the nice things
- 15:00Speaker 3: about sustainability is this is something that all of us
- 15:03Speaker 3: as individuals can play a part in. So we do
- 15:08Speaker 3: a lot of work thinking about eliminating plastic in nature,
- 15:12Speaker 3: and we do a lot of work thinking about food waste.
- 15:14Speaker 3: We have a big program with schools called Food Waste Warriors,
- 15:18Speaker 3: because it turns out that there's a tremendous amount of
- 15:21Speaker 3: food that gets wasted in the school system. And so
- 15:24Speaker 3: there's things that all of us can do to reduce that.
- 15:27Speaker 3: One of the things I found is interesting is that
- 15:29Speaker 3: food production has a big impact on the state of
- 15:34Speaker 3: the planet, on the amount of land that gets used,
- 15:37Speaker 3: the water that gets used. And yet we waste almost 40%
- 15:41Speaker 3: of the food that's created. So just coming up with
- 15:44Speaker 3: a plan to think about how am I going to
- 15:46Speaker 3: shop responsibly so that I'm not throwing away the fruit
- 15:49Speaker 3: that goes bad in my fridge? Or how am I
- 15:51Speaker 3: going to think about using leftovers with my kids? Those
- 15:54Speaker 3: things can make a big difference. Similarly, as we think
- 15:57Speaker 3: about reusing and recycling with things like plastic, it's important
- 16:01Speaker 3: for big companies to play their part and governments to
- 16:03Speaker 3: have policy, but we can play a role there too.
- 16:06Speaker 3: And then there's sustainability on a much larger scale. So
- 16:10Speaker 3: how do we think, for example, fish are incredibly important factors.
- 16:15Speaker 3: So many people rely on fish as their primary source
- 16:17Speaker 3: of protein. And yet one in three fisheries is overfished,
- 16:21Speaker 3: which means you're taking more fish out than you're ever
- 16:24Speaker 3: going to get back. And it's kind of simple math
- 16:26Speaker 3: that if we keep doing that, there's not going to
- 16:28Speaker 3: be enough nutrition for us. So how do we think
- 16:32Speaker 3: about working at a broader level to set standards, to
- 16:35Speaker 3: try to work with governments to make sure that illegal
- 16:37Speaker 3: fishing practices don't take place so that we're helping more
- 16:41Speaker 3: of a planetary need more than an individual need?
- 16:44Speaker 1: You know, and something that you're alluding to here, Lauren,
- 16:46Speaker 1: is that you're talking about education of sustainability, because some
- 16:49Speaker 1: people just don't know what it is and how to
- 16:51Speaker 1: execute it. You have to have a plan. You have
- 16:54Speaker 1: to execute it. And you have to have money behind it, too,
- 16:56Speaker 1: to make sure that it works. As you talk to
- 16:58Speaker 1: your peers around the nation, is the message being received well?
- 17:04Speaker 2: I think so.
- 17:04Speaker 3: And I would add another piece, which is policy changes
- 17:07Speaker 3: can really help, right? If there's policy in place, that's
- 17:09Speaker 3: going to influence what kind of investments get made, what
- 17:12Speaker 3: companies do. And so one of the things we do
- 17:14Speaker 3: is also try to talk to lawmakers to make that
- 17:17Speaker 3: point as well. But I do think on an individual level,
- 17:20Speaker 3: some of these issues, some things are very abstract issues.
- 17:24Speaker 3: Warming is an abstract issue in some ways, but everybody
- 17:28Speaker 3: can walk down the street and see plastic. There's so
- 17:31Speaker 3: much plastic in the ocean. If you go to the beach,
- 17:33Speaker 3: you see it. And I think that really helps people
- 17:36Speaker 3: understand this is a real issue that has an impact
- 17:40Speaker 3: in their communities.
- 17:41Speaker 1: All right. And speaking of which, it's a great segue
- 17:43Speaker 1: about supporting communities. Let's talk about that one.
- 17:46Speaker 3: Yeah, we do a lot of work to try to
- 17:50Speaker 3: support communities all around the world. Oftentimes, local communities, often
- 17:56Speaker 3: indigenous communities, are closest to some of the areas that
- 17:59Speaker 3: we're trying to protect or are dealing, once you actually
- 18:02Speaker 3: start to bring species back in numbers, the next issue
- 18:05Speaker 3: you have is human-wildlife conflict. It's great sitting here in D.C.
- 18:11Speaker 3: to say we need more elephants, but if you're sitting
- 18:14Speaker 3: in Africa and all of a sudden there's an elephant
- 18:16Speaker 3: who's rampaging your street or your house, it doesn't seem
- 18:21Speaker 3: like that it's so positive. So how do we do
- 18:24Speaker 3: work to make sure that communities understand? understand the benefits,
- 18:28Speaker 3: have the tools to make sure that there's positive coexistence.
- 18:33Speaker 3: And our role a lot in that is to listen
- 18:36Speaker 3: and support. Many communities have the answers. They've been living
- 18:40Speaker 3: with wildlife for millennia, and we just need to help
- 18:43Speaker 3: make sure that we can support that activity.
- 18:47Speaker 1: Lauren, I want to pivot over to advocation. You had
- 18:49Speaker 1: talked about it a couple of times. I know it's
- 18:50Speaker 1: a big part of your job and your CEOs and
- 18:53Speaker 1: everybody else who goes to Capitol Hill to talk about
- 18:55Speaker 1: what you do and the next plan and try to
- 18:58Speaker 1: get people on board. With that said, can you give
- 19:00Speaker 1: us a little behind the scenes about what you're talking
- 19:03Speaker 1: about right now and what you're trying to get through
- 19:05Speaker 1: and this plan for 2026 moving forward as well?
- 19:09Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a couple of issues that are kind of
- 19:11Speaker 3: front and center right now. So you may have seen
- 19:14Speaker 3: there's been some pullback on the Endangered Species Act. That's
- 19:18Speaker 3: been a longtime piece of legislation. WWF has been supportive
- 19:22Speaker 3: of it since the beginning. And historically, it protects species
- 19:27Speaker 3: and their habitat. And the recent ruling has redefined harm
- 19:33Speaker 3: to species to say that harm to their habitat is
- 19:36Speaker 3: not harm. But just like harm to your house is
- 19:42Speaker 3: probably harms your ability to have a full and rich life.
- 19:46Speaker 2: The same is true for species. So trying to really.
- 19:49Speaker 3: help lawmakers understand the original intention of the Endangered Species Act.
- 19:55Speaker 3: If people are interested, you can go to our website, worldwildlife.org,
- 20:00Speaker 3: slash take action. You can send letters on the hill.
- 20:04Speaker 3: You can get engaged. We also are focused on no
- 20:08Speaker 3: plastic in nature. That's another issue that we're trying to
- 20:11Speaker 3: work on. And one of the ecosystems here in the
- 20:15Speaker 3: United States are our grasslands in the West. Our grasslands
- 20:20Speaker 3: team says that grasslands are like the least appreciated of
- 20:23Speaker 3: all the ecosystems, right? People understand what a rainforest is
- 20:26Speaker 3: or a tropical forest, but they don't necessarily have a
- 20:29Speaker 3: vision of those amber waves of grain. But our grasslands
- 20:33Speaker 3: are crucial here. They're crucial for ranchers. They're crucial for
- 20:37Speaker 3: native nations. And we're losing them. And so we're also
- 20:41Speaker 3: working to help build awareness of the benefits of grasslands
- 20:45Speaker 3: and what people can do to help restore them.
- 20:47Speaker 1: All right, I want to talk a little bit more
- 20:49Speaker 1: about being able to help. And that includes donation and
- 20:51Speaker 1: taking action. There's fundraising, all sorts of different ways that
- 20:55Speaker 1: you and your team of allowed people here domestically can help.
- 20:57Speaker 1: Can you talk about some of those?
- 20:59Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely.
- 21:00Speaker 3: So we are very fortunate at WWF that we're supported
- 21:04Speaker 3: by a wide range of people, lots of individuals. You
- 21:08Speaker 3: can absolutely donate to WWF. If you go to our website, worldwildlife.org,
- 21:14Speaker 3: you can donate right there. Also, we have a great
- 21:19Speaker 3: gift center where you can donate to people wonderful stuffed
- 21:25Speaker 3: animals in your favorite species or great t-shirts that are
- 21:30Speaker 3: sustainably sourced. So there's lots of ways to contribute that way.
- 21:35Speaker 3: If you're interested in advocacy, you can absolutely get on board.
- 21:39Speaker 3: There's easy things to do, like sign a petition. We
- 21:42Speaker 3: have a program called Panda Ambassadors. So if you want
- 21:44Speaker 3: to be leading efforts, you can look into that. And
- 21:49Speaker 3: then again, I think people doing good for the planet
- 21:52Speaker 3: on your own makes a big difference. So every year
- 21:55Speaker 3: around Earth Day in April, we have a campaign called
- 21:58Speaker 3: Give an Hour for Earth. And the idea is just
- 22:01Speaker 3: to be intentional and recognize all the things that the
- 22:05Speaker 3: planet gives to us and to give back in some way.
- 22:07Speaker 3: So that might be spend an hour and weed in
- 22:11Speaker 3: your garden or plant some flowers that the pollinators like
- 22:15Speaker 3: or do a waterfront cleanup or just take a walk
- 22:18Speaker 3: in nature. Because one of the things we know is
- 22:20Speaker 3: the more time you spend in nature, the more personal
- 22:23Speaker 3: benefit you get and the more you value it. So
- 22:25Speaker 3: even those small actions can make a difference.
- 22:28Speaker 1: You know, Lauren, I like to ask this question as
- 22:29Speaker 1: much as we're getting educated by you and learning about WWF-US,
- 22:33Speaker 1: is that we're always getting something wrong, and it's because
- 22:36Speaker 1: of news or what we read, and it's not always exact.
- 22:39Speaker 1: With that said, whether it's domestically or worldwide or even
- 22:43Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill, is there something we're getting wrong about
- 22:45Speaker 1: what you guys are doing that you just want to
- 22:47Speaker 1: make sure for the record that this is exactly what
- 22:49Speaker 1: we're doing and this is how it works?
- 22:54Speaker 3: I think the way I would answer that is– Just
- 22:57Speaker 3: to say, I think sometimes people think about nature as
- 23:01Speaker 3: an afterthought. They think the other things are more important,
- 23:03Speaker 3: the economy, jobs, the state of the world. Nature underpins
- 23:09Speaker 3: all of that.
- 23:10Speaker 2: I often think about.
- 23:11Speaker 3: That nature is sort of surprisingly invisible.
- 23:15Speaker 2: We just don't see it.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Yeah, take it for granted.
- 23:18Speaker 2: We take it for granted. We're here in these offices.
- 23:20Speaker 2: We don't think about it.
- 23:21Speaker 3: But it's the air we breathe, the food we eat,
- 23:23Speaker 3: the fibers in the clothing that we wear. Even I think,
- 23:26Speaker 3: you know... The building I'm in is made of concrete.
- 23:29Speaker 3: That comes from sand, from riverbeds and oceans. And we
- 23:32Speaker 3: just don't think about how much nature provides for us.
- 23:37Speaker 3: And if we lose it, it will harm us. It
- 23:40Speaker 3: will harm our jobs, our ability to get the food
- 23:45Speaker 3: that we need. And so nature really shouldn't be the afterthought.
- 23:50Speaker 3: It's not in addition to. It is really fundamental to
- 23:54Speaker 3: the kind of world that we want to create.
- 23:56Speaker 1: I think it's a good point, and I'm glad you
- 23:57Speaker 1: talked about that. I did want to ask you also
- 23:59Speaker 1: about the future, because I know you and your team
- 24:01Speaker 1: are always looking forward, and then you're talking to people worldwide.
- 24:04Speaker 1: I get it that while we have one big agenda
- 24:07Speaker 1: with some of the things that we talked about in
- 24:08Speaker 1: our list, looking forward is very paramount to the plan,
- 24:13Speaker 1: not only for you, but for the world. With that said,
- 24:16Speaker 1: what kind of things are you excited about that you're
- 24:17Speaker 1: starting to talk to right about now that are going
- 24:20Speaker 1: to show up in the next two, five, even 10
- 24:22Speaker 1: years down the road that we've got to keep a
- 24:24Speaker 1: spotlight on this. This is what we're working on right
- 24:26Speaker 1: now for the future.
- 24:28Speaker 3: Yeah, great question. I think I worry all the time
- 24:32Speaker 3: about the loss of nature. And it's once we've lost it,
- 24:35Speaker 3: it's hard to bring it back. And so one of
- 24:37Speaker 3: the most essential things we can do is keep the
- 24:40Speaker 3: nature that we have. And we're working a lot on
- 24:43Speaker 3: these very large projects, trying to work with governments and
- 24:46Speaker 3: at the whole landscape level to protect and secure large
- 24:52Speaker 3: tracts of land and ocean so that we can conserve
- 24:56Speaker 3: it and have the resources that we need. We have
- 24:59Speaker 3: a big program that we call Enduring Earth.
- 25:02Speaker 2: There's global goals that have been set.
- 25:05Speaker 3: The idea is that by 2030, globally, not just for WWF,
- 25:09Speaker 3: We should be conserving and protecting 30% of the world's
- 25:13Speaker 3: oceans and lands if we want to be able to
- 25:15Speaker 3: sort of have the resources that we need. And so
- 25:18Speaker 3: these big projects that we're working on under Enduring Earth
- 25:21Speaker 3: are really about how do we get to those big goals?
- 25:24Speaker 3: Because the losses are hitting us faster and faster. And
- 25:28Speaker 3: so we have to be working at a bigger scale.
- 25:31Speaker 3: Each of us can make our individual difference, but we
- 25:34Speaker 3: really have to think really at that whole of place scale.
- 25:37Speaker 3: And that's what we're really focusing on in the next
- 25:40Speaker 3: couple of years.
- 25:41Speaker 1: You know, I was wanting to circle back because these
- 25:44Speaker 1: relationships that you have with these large companies, I was
- 25:46Speaker 1: very encouraged to hear that because I know everybody's got
- 25:48Speaker 1: their agenda. It's all about money and making more money.
- 25:51Speaker 1: And sometimes, you know, if somebody gets in the way,
- 25:54Speaker 1: that's just the way the world works. So I was
- 25:56Speaker 1: encouraged to hear about that. With that said, as you
- 26:00Speaker 1: continue to educate, whether they're small, medium or these large companies,
- 26:05Speaker 1: what do you continue to hope that they're educated and
- 26:07Speaker 1: learn about so you can at least have a partnership?
- 26:12Speaker 3: Yeah, that nature is an asset with real economic value.
- 26:16Speaker 3: And we tend to think it's free and that it's
- 26:19Speaker 3: endlessly replenishable.
- 26:22Speaker 2: And it's not.
- 26:23Speaker 3: And so if you want a business that you're going
- 26:25Speaker 3: to have 10 years down the road, 20 years down
- 26:28Speaker 3: the road that relies on nature, and most of them do,
- 26:31Speaker 3: how are you thinking about creating regenerative agricultural practices or
- 26:36Speaker 3: resilient supply chains so that The planet is better and
- 26:40Speaker 3: your business is better. And that's the connection that's really
- 26:43Speaker 3: important to make.
- 26:45Speaker 2: It's a real economic argument.
- 26:47Speaker 1: Right. Is there anything else we've left out that you
- 26:49Speaker 1: want to make sure that is on our radar and
- 26:51Speaker 1: spotlight that you and your team or even worldwide that
- 26:54Speaker 1: is being worked on that we might not know about?
- 26:56Speaker 3: No. The only thing I would say is I've talked
- 27:00Speaker 3: a lot about nature as an economic asset and how
- 27:03Speaker 3: important it is. But I think it's important to remember, too,
- 27:07Speaker 3: how amazing nature is.
- 27:09Speaker 2: It's abundant and beautiful.
- 27:11Speaker 3: And when we spend time in nature and when we're
- 27:14Speaker 3: surrounded by nature, our mental health is better.
- 27:17Speaker 2: We're happier. There's research about this.
- 27:19Speaker 3: And so for all of us to just see the
- 27:23Speaker 3: nature that's around us and spend some time in it.
- 27:25Speaker 3: I think that's one of the most important things that
- 27:28Speaker 3: we can all do. And part of our work, we're
- 27:31Speaker 3: fortunate that we have a well-known brand and a platform
- 27:35Speaker 3: is really to encourage people to love nature, to understand it,
- 27:39Speaker 3: to value it. Again, to recognize that we desperately need
- 27:44Speaker 3: nature and nature needs us.
- 27:46Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. And, you know, I'll go
- 27:48Speaker 1: a little behind the scenes. I'm the first year of
- 27:51Speaker 1: Generation X. which means I grew up with three TV channels,
- 27:54Speaker 1: including Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom with Marlon Perkins. And
- 27:59Speaker 1: I'm dating myself, folks, because I was a kid when
- 28:01Speaker 1: I watched that. But what it did introduce me to, Lauren,
- 28:04Speaker 1: is animals and conservation and the world that I didn't
- 28:09Speaker 1: know about as a kid. And I've loved animals since then.
- 28:12Speaker 1: It was such a great show back then. And, you know,
- 28:14Speaker 1: you can watch any streamer now, and there's some great
- 28:16Speaker 1: documentaries and there's some great shows about the world and animals.
- 28:20Speaker 1: and our society and everything out there that's really cool.
- 28:24Speaker 1: I just think it's cool what you and your team
- 28:26Speaker 1: are doing. And I know it's an uphill battle all
- 28:28Speaker 1: the time, especially when we get into certain administrations or
- 28:31Speaker 1: where the world is and news is that you know
- 28:33Speaker 1: about really well since you've been in the industry for
- 28:34Speaker 1: so long. So I'm thrilled at what you're doing out there.
- 28:37Speaker 1: And I think as I get to know you a
- 28:40Speaker 1: little bit, it feels like you think you're making a difference,
- 28:43Speaker 1: which I think is extraordinary because what people don't know
- 28:46Speaker 1: is that when you run nonprofits, it's an uphill battle
- 28:48Speaker 1: all the time, no matter what you're doing and whatever
- 28:50Speaker 1: widget you're working with. And it just seems like you're
- 28:52Speaker 1: making a difference out there. I hope you and your
- 28:54Speaker 1: team feel that way, too.
- 28:57Speaker 3: I do. And I think the whole many people in
- 28:59Speaker 3: this organization feel the same way. I think, you know,
- 29:02Speaker 3: it can feel overwhelming. And one of the wonderful things
- 29:04Speaker 3: about working at WWF and being part of this community,
- 29:08Speaker 3: we call ourselves pandas. So being part of the panda
- 29:10Speaker 3: family is really feeling like we do get to make
- 29:14Speaker 3: a difference on some of these essential issues and that
- 29:16Speaker 3: we're contributing in a very positive way to at times
- 29:20Speaker 3: when sometimes it can feel like the trends are negative.
- 29:23Speaker 1: Very good. Let's give the website one more time. Remember,
- 29:25Speaker 1: there's a lot of great information. It's a beautiful website,
- 29:28Speaker 1: by the way. It's easy to navigate. There is a
- 29:30Speaker 1: lot of information of what we talked about, and that's
- 29:32Speaker 1: just the tip of the iceberg. And what is that
- 29:34Speaker 1: for everybody, Lauren?
- 29:35Speaker 3: Sure.
- 29:36Speaker 2: It's worldwildlife.org.
- 29:38Speaker 3: And if you've got a favorite animal, I guarantee you'll
- 29:40Speaker 3: be able to find some information about it. If you're
- 29:42Speaker 3: interested in advocacy.
- 29:44Speaker 2: There's opportunities.
- 29:45Speaker 3: If you want to learn about some of these bigger issues,
- 29:48Speaker 3: how habitats function, it's all there.
- 29:51Speaker 1: Lauren, thank you so much. It's great to have you
- 29:52Speaker 1: on Community DC. I hope we get to do this again.
- 29:55Speaker 1: Continue success. Give my best to your team. And thank
- 29:57Speaker 1: you for joining us on the program.
- 29:59Speaker 2: Thanks so much. It's been a real pleasure.