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Best of Chuck & Buck 12-18 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: I mentioned at the beginning of the show about tonight's
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night matchup between the Seahawks and Rams, that it's
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  Speaker 1: not just local buzz, the national buzz is intense. Mike Florio,
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  Speaker 1: who you affectionately know as Butthole in the afternoons with
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  Speaker 1: Softy and Fame, actually I think it's he that calls
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  Speaker 1: them that. Yes, right, yes, but he wrote for PFT
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  Speaker 1: that this he's basically saying Rams Seahawks both eleven and three.
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  Speaker 1: The Winter controls its path not just to the NFC
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  Speaker 1: West title, but to the number one seed in the conference.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: It's that simple, and it will be more simple for
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  Speaker 1: the Rams since they finished with the Falcons and Cardinals.
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  Speaker 1: It will be tougher for the Seahawks, who finished with
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  Speaker 1: the Panthers and forty nine Ers. He also mentions, and
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  Speaker 1: don't forget the forty nine Ers who beat the Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: earlier this year. They also control their own path. So
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  Speaker 1: even with a Seahawks win tonight, the forty nine Ers
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  Speaker 1: can still spoil things down the stretch here and end
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  Speaker 1: up winning the division. So, just to crystallize the point, uh,
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  Speaker 1: he finishes with it's the biggest game of the regular
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  Speaker 1: season so far with the promise of potentially bigger games
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  Speaker 1: to come. So that's how the nation has approaching tonight's game.
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  Speaker 3: Lil usiatle, Yeah, but I think san Fran basically be
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  Speaker 3: cheering for the Seahawks tonight, right because they of course, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna They're gonna want them to jump up into
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  Speaker 3: first so they can sniper them in the final week
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  Speaker 3: of See there's it's crazy to have as good of
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  Speaker 3: a season win loss wise as all three of these
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  Speaker 3: teams have had. I mean, san Fran, You've said it
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  Speaker 3: multiple times. I mean, Kyle Shannan should be in the
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  Speaker 3: running for Coach of the Year considering all the huge
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  Speaker 3: injuries they've had. I mean, most of the time, you
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  Speaker 3: don't lose your quarterback for a significant chunk of the
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  Speaker 3: season and still be sitting at ten and four with
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  Speaker 3: a chance of getting the number one overall seed.
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  Speaker 2: Plus they've lost.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, their biggest playmaker on defense to the biggest
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  Speaker 3: playmakers on defense.
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  Speaker 2: Two. They got so much, and I didn't think they
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  Speaker 2: were very good to begin with.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm a little tainted when it comes to like
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  Speaker 1: my appreciation for Shannan this year. I think I would
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  Speaker 1: vote him Coach of the Year this year, even over
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  Speaker 1: our own guys. Impressive because I just don't think they're
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  Speaker 1: very good. But they're ten and four.
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  Speaker 4: Doing something right, and they've.
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  Speaker 1: Lost probably more significant pieces to well, I know they
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  Speaker 1: have than anybody else in the National Football League. I
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  Speaker 1: mean they've even played without Brandon Ayuk all season long,
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  Speaker 1: which was not the expectation. So I think he's done
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  Speaker 1: a better job of coaching than anyone. But I have
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  Speaker 1: a bias because I didn't think they were all that
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  Speaker 1: good to begin with.
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  Speaker 2: I thought they were good, but not great. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't in the thought that they were over the hill.
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  Speaker 3: I still thought they were contenders, but I didn't after
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  Speaker 3: they started. You lose Nick Bosa, that's a huge one,
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  Speaker 3: and the linebackers Fred Warner, Yeah, and then whatever's going
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  Speaker 3: on without you can then they lose their quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, they're going to fall off.
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  Speaker 3: Nope, they're just kind of sitting there lurking in the
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  Speaker 3: bushes right now, one game behind. They know they're going
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  Speaker 3: to be tied for second at the end of tonight's
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  Speaker 3: game no matter what, and yeah, Seattle wins. The thinking
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  Speaker 3: they are they going to be licking their chops thinking
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  Speaker 3: that they can come up and sniper this number one
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  Speaker 3: seed when everybody had maybe written them off weeks and
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  Speaker 3: weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to beat them by fifty. I'm more worried
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  Speaker 1: about the Rams. Yeah, one game, right, right, That's that's
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  Speaker 1: my mindset, always just one game at a time. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even going to even think about when we
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  Speaker 1: beat the forty nine ers by fifty.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, okay, cool, good to know. Can't wait to
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  Speaker 2: beat them fifty six to five. God, that's my prediction. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't love that they're going to get a safety,
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  Speaker 4: but I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Nixon's going to run out of the back of the end,
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  Speaker 1: so just to avoid injury.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, that's fair.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's talk a little bit of college football.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I mean tonight, today's show is like
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  Speaker 1: ninety five ninety eight percent talking about Seahawks Rams tonight.
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  Speaker 1: But there are a couple of other things I think
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  Speaker 1: worth mentioning. And certainly there was a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: panic at the disco last night. I'm trying to do
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  Speaker 1: some writing over there at the old Barnes and Noble
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  Speaker 1: last night. Thought it was a good night the head
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  Speaker 1: to the bookstore. You know, not many sports events going
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  Speaker 1: on last night, really right, And I get over there
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  Speaker 1: and it's just like text after text of like, what's
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  Speaker 1: going on at Washington? Why are we losing all of
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  Speaker 1: these players? I don't know, and nobody really does. Adam
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  Speaker 1: Mohammad obviously entered the transfer portal, and that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: that he won't come back, by the way, probably leaving,
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  Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that he won't like maybe I
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  Speaker 1: do want to stay at Washington.
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  Speaker 2: But he did enter the transfer portal.
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  Speaker 1: Raident vines Bright, who of course stole a lot of
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  Speaker 1: conversation at the beginning of the year, the freshman that
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  Speaker 1: people thought might emerge as our second best receiver this
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  Speaker 1: past season behind Boston for the Dogs. He also entered
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  Speaker 1: the transfer portal yesterday. So did Zach Henning offensive lineman.
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  Speaker 1: And of course you can't help but think with all
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  Speaker 1: of the Jetfish rumors and the Michigan vacancy and Fish's
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  Speaker 1: connection to Michigan. And I'm sorry, coach if this is unfair,
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  Speaker 1: but it's just I mean, there's no way not to think.
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  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, there's been a meeting. Jetfish has told them
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  Speaker 1: that you know, boys, if you have a chance to
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  Speaker 1: find a better home, I might not be here. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's kind of where your mind went last night.
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  Speaker 1: And if your mind certainly where mine went. And I
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  Speaker 1: can't imagine that no one was, you know, unless you
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  Speaker 1: had inside information. I would imagine most Husky fans were
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  Speaker 1: thinking the exact same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, definitely is gonna pop in your head. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: is it. Josh Pate there wrote an article or head.
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  Speaker 3: We'd had a video out where he was saying yesterday
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  Speaker 3: right there, Yeah, he was saying that it had cooled
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  Speaker 3: down for some reason that them I think they had
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  Speaker 3: been talking to Jetfish. I think there has been conversations.
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  Speaker 3: So the speculation or the concern if you're a Husky
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  Speaker 3: fan is legit. And then the fallout or the way
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  Speaker 3: in which your mind would go when you hear a
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  Speaker 3: couple guys are into the transfer portal, My mind immediately
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  Speaker 3: went to that same spot. And then you start hearing
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  Speaker 3: from some people that he's hearing from sources that the
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  Speaker 3: Wolverines are no longer, that that is cooled to some
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  Speaker 3: degree whatever the conversations with Jed Fisher.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what I heard those yesterday that's what I
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  Speaker 1: heard yesterday from you dub people. And then last night
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  Speaker 1: driving last night when I woke up from my short
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  Speaker 1: little nap, I was hearing national people saying, oh, no,
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  Speaker 1: he's very much a contender.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I heard too.
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  Speaker 5: I mean there was a big swell kind of no,
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  Speaker 5: he's out of the running.
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  Speaker 4: He's out of the running.
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  Speaker 5: But by yesterday afternoon it was like, no, I don't
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  Speaker 5: know where anyone's getting this information.
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  Speaker 4: He's still very much being mentioned.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I would just say this though about yesterday's players that
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  Speaker 1: entered the transfer portal, and I think this is very
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  Speaker 1: important to point out. Number one, this is going to
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  Speaker 1: happen to every program in the country every year until
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  Speaker 1: we change the rules, and maybe they ever will get changed,
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  Speaker 1: but everybody, I mean, it's going to happen. Ohio State,
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  Speaker 1: They're going to have three to five guys every year
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  Speaker 1: that are going to seek greener pastures, are more playing
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  Speaker 1: time or more nil money, whatever the case may be.
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  Speaker 1: This is going to happen to every program every single year,
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  Speaker 1: whether your coach is a no matter or not. The
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  Speaker 1: second thing I think you need to mention is we're
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  Speaker 1: very early in the bowl season process, and the Huskies
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  Speaker 1: have already played Theirs, their season is over, so other
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  Speaker 1: teams are getting ready to still prepare for their final
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  Speaker 1: game of the year. Otherwise we would hear more about this.
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  Speaker 1: But the Huskies have already finished cleared out their locker rooms,
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  Speaker 1: so it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that they're
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  Speaker 1: going to have a few more names at this point
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  Speaker 1: December eighteenth, twenty twenty five that are announcing their intentions
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  Speaker 1: for the future than a program that hasn't played its
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  Speaker 1: final game of the year. So I think those are
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  Speaker 1: two really important distinctions to make. Maybe this has nothing
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  Speaker 1: to do uh with Jedfish. Probably does. There's probably some
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  Speaker 1: uncertainty as to who our coach is gonna be. But
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  Speaker 1: I think that I think this very well could be
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  Speaker 1: that this is just the natural order of things.
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  Speaker 3: Now, yeah, well, definitely the natural order of things is
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  Speaker 3: playing into it. Where it's just I mean, now you
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  Speaker 3: know that they're without all the rules or any rules
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  Speaker 3: that are in place with people leaving and whatnot, that
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  Speaker 3: they can have people contacting them and saying.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you know, you'd get more money if you can
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  Speaker 2: come over here.
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  Speaker 3: You go over there, and or it could be as
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  Speaker 3: simple as you know, he maybe Mohammad thinks that they're
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  Speaker 3: going to be looking at Jordan Washington as the starting
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  Speaker 3: running back to take takeover for Joonah Coleman. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he looked crazy fast when he was out there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, he's crazy fast, but that's out there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so you end up looking up in
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  Speaker 3: their bowl game. He it's Boise State. He only had
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  Speaker 3: two carries and Jordan had four. Oh yeah, I'm out
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  Speaker 3: of here.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I mean, you're making a good tongue
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  Speaker 1: in cheek. Yeah, but you're making a good point a chance. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I wrote down on my notes Jordan Washington
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  Speaker 1: next to Adam Muhammad. Yeah, I think there's that. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe there was an honest conversation behind the scenes of
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  Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna give Jordan every opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: take this job, right, and Adam's like, Okay, I thought
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  Speaker 1: I played really well against Oregon. There might be some
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  Speaker 1: interest in me. So he enters the transfer portal.
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  Speaker 2: So who knows.
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  Speaker 1: There's gonna be a million different reasons for why this
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  Speaker 1: happened yesterday, but it's very natural considering the last three
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  Speaker 1: years of a Husky fan's life. That their immediate speculation
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  Speaker 1: seeing three guys in one day enter the transfer portal is.
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  Speaker 2: They must have found out news about Fish.
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  Speaker 1: He's leaving, isn't he?
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  Speaker 2: But we shall see.
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  Speaker 1: We shall see if it turns out to be an
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  Speaker 1: arbor Fischigan or not. Coming up next, no cliche Keys
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  Speaker 1: to victory for tonight's Thursday Night Affairs Sports Radio ninety
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  Speaker 6: These guys want to be These guys are lawyers and
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  Speaker 6: they want to be on TV too.
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  Speaker 1: Brother like the game. You don't think he's texting his
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  Speaker 1: friends in the group shot? Like, Yo, you guys just
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  Speaker 1: saw any Saturday football.
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  Speaker 2: Like that way?
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  Speaker 1: That wasn't p I like, but I called it?
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  Speaker 7: Seriously?
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  Speaker 1: Did you do that that?
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  Speaker 6: I mean?
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  Speaker 8: These guys are noble human beings too.
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  Speaker 9: Bro Like.
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  Speaker 1: You hear somebody else say that sounds silly. It's Chuck
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  Speaker 1: bucking Ashley with you here game day on a Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. We're getting you set for Seahawks rams tonight
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  Speaker 1: right here in Seattle. Is it gonna be windy? Is
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  Speaker 1: it gonna be rainy? Is it gonna be neither? Is
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  Speaker 1: it gonna be both we're gonna talk a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to a weatherman. That's right, ye know, grandall, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: turn on the weather man, So Grandpa, you kill me, Dorthy,
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  Speaker 1: turn on the weather man.
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  Speaker 2: That's funny.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so we'll be turning on the weather man
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  Speaker 1: a little bit later on this hour to find out
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  Speaker 1: exactly what we can expect and how it could impact
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  Speaker 1: the game.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit later on this hour.
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  Speaker 1: Also our twelve man Roundtable Today Game Day Roundtable with
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen and Greg Bell, starting at eight o'clock. What
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  Speaker 1: a special special evening. We've got a plan for Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: versus Rams.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Let's first though, talk about your frost brewed Corslight choose
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  Speaker 1: chill headlines. Of course, it does start with that game
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  Speaker 1: five point fifteen kickoff, and it will be aired locally.
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  Speaker 1: It won't just be the Prime video broadcast. They will
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  Speaker 1: air it locally, so you don't have to worry about that.
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  Speaker 1: Charles Cross is out for the Seahawks, our starting left tackle,
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  Speaker 1: and Mike McDonald didn't beat around the bush Josh Jones.
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  Speaker 1: They feel okay with Josh Jones. He's been on the
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  Speaker 1: roster all season long, hasn't played that much, but this
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  Speaker 1: is why he's here to be that guy that will
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: step in for either Abe Lucas or Charles Cross or
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  Speaker 1: Josh Jones will get to start tonight at left tackle
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  Speaker 1: in the biggest game of the year. Davante Adams is
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  Speaker 1: being listed as doubtful. Most people reading into it believe
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  Speaker 1: there's really no shot that the Ram, the wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: and possible future Hall of Famer, is going to play tonight,
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  Speaker 1: but that Sean mcvayh wanted to keep hope alive, either
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  Speaker 1: lying to himself or forcing Mike McDonald to have to
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  Speaker 1: strategize for something that's not even going to participate. But
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  Speaker 1: it's looking very doubtful that DeVante Adams will play for
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  Speaker 1: the Rams. We'll bring a professional on to talk about
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  Speaker 1: this later this hour. But there is a chance there
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  Speaker 1: won't be much rain tonight, it's looking like and yet
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  Speaker 1: there could be high winds tonight, So again, we'll get
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  Speaker 1: into that at seven point thirty with somebody that does this.
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  Speaker 2: For a lidding.
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  Speaker 4: Thank goodness, because yeah, we don't.
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  Speaker 1: This is the week where NFL Saturday games start, so
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna have college football playoff games, three of them
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  Speaker 1: with two NFL games on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: That's in prime watching right up there. Oh, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia at Washington, Green Bay at Chicago. That second game
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  Speaker 1: is a monster, which we'll discuss here in a little
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  Speaker 1: bit as we look at the playoff picture for the
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks in the NFC. But those are the two games
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday, and then of course a full slate on
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  Speaker 1: Sunday as well. You doub losing talent yesterday entering the
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  Speaker 1: transfer portal who was running back Adam Muhammad and wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver Raydon Vines Bright also offensive lineman Zach Henning had
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  Speaker 1: a few Husky fans wondering what the heck is going on?
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  Speaker 1: Is Fish really leaving? The Michigan rumors will not die,
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  Speaker 1: And when you lose three prominent young players like that
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  Speaker 1: in a short period of time, it certainly gets the
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  Speaker 1: mind to whirlindbrows.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. I don't have
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  Speaker 1: any inside information. I would say that there's enough smoke
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  Speaker 1: there that I wouldn't rule it out. That's true that
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  Speaker 1: Jedfish is leaving, and that these moves yesterday had something
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  Speaker 1: to do with that. Maybe he's leaked a little information,
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  Speaker 1: but there's also a really good story to tell in
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  Speaker 1: regards to I think every program is gonna lose players
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  Speaker 1: every That's just where we are. Number two, The Huskies
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  Speaker 1: have already finished their bowl game, where most bowl games
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  Speaker 1: have not been played, They've already cleaned out their lockers,
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  Speaker 1: so it shouldn't be surprising to people that a few
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  Speaker 1: players have moved on earlier than other programs have had
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  Speaker 1: to confront. And then look, I mean, Adam Mohammad might
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  Speaker 1: be replaced by Jordan Wasshed.
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  Speaker 2: He's been waiting to be the RB.
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  Speaker 1: One through the entire Jonah Coleman era, and now he
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  Speaker 1: might not get the chance because of how good and
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  Speaker 1: how fast and how talented Jordan Washington is. So maybe
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  Speaker 1: he sees the riding on the wall and wants to
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  Speaker 1: get to a place where he's guaranteed more carries. And
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  Speaker 1: then with Rayden Vines Bright, I mean, he had a
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  Speaker 1: really scary injury, really scary to the point where you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's one of those type of injuries where he goes
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  Speaker 1: to the hospital and mom and dad spend all night
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  Speaker 1: worrying about you. He's from Tempe, Arizona. This could be
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  Speaker 1: a case of mom saying you are coming home.
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  Speaker 2: I am not going to go through I mean, who knows.
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  Speaker 1: There could be a million different why these things happened yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: But obviously when your head coach at your local football
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  Speaker 1: program as a nomad, our minds naturally go to, oh my.
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  Speaker 3: Gosh, you might be leaving after all, right, right, and
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  Speaker 3: I think just about everybody probably had their mind jumped
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  Speaker 3: to that conclusion. And yet, I mean, I'll just say,
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  Speaker 3: at the end of every season in college, you would
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  Speaker 3: end up having a conversation with your coach, right, And
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  Speaker 3: I know I had a few buddies that would go
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  Speaker 3: in and talk to ed chef and what do I
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  Speaker 3: need to work on, coach?
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  Speaker 2: And you go, you got a lot to work on.
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  Speaker 3: The first thing is I'd find somewhere else to play
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  Speaker 3: because You're not going to play here.
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  Speaker 2: That happened to you every year, not to me. Oh okay,
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  Speaker 2: but I have.
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  Speaker 3: Some buddies that that happened to He just told me
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  Speaker 3: you got to work on pretty much everything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, mainly your attitude and your fashion. That well, my
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  Speaker 2: fashion was garbage, but that was part for the course.
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  Speaker 3: This was the nineteen nineties, remember, and so no, it
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  Speaker 3: was an attitude was fine, It was just his way
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  Speaker 3: of being like, your hitting still.
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  Speaker 2: Garbage, defense sucks really bad.
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  Speaker 3: Your mentality is the worst I've ever let anyone wear
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  Speaker 3: a warrior uniform. So take that into account as you
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: go into the off season. I would just basically work
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: on everything because you're horrible and get some breath mints. Yea,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: you probably Maybe you did as I was leaving, and
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: I just was. I couldn't hear it through my tears.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I do.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, the idea of a post season, a postseason
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: conversation with your coach happens. It could be that simple now,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: and you add the murkiness of money. If they're like, hey,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: we're right now, we don't have to pay Jordan as much,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: and you know we need that money that we have
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: set aside for you to go here.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Who knows, man to me, it's just one of those
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: we can speculate.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: It's it's a topic for us to discuss on sports
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: talk radio, but we don't know what the heck the
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: situation is.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Could be a thousand different reasons for it. But one
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: of those reasons is as Jedfish is leading right, yep,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: could be one of my so I think we're I
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: think we're kind of prepared for anything.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: That's what you have to be as a college.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Football fan right now.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: I think so.
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: And if you're not, then you're you got your head
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: in the sand and you're pretending things haven't changed.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: And they have changed.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: They have changed a lot.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: They have changed dramatically. College football playoff will start on Friday.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Alabama at Oklahoma will be the matchup, and then three
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: games on Saturday. Kurt Signetti named National Coach of the
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Year for a second consecutive season. There at Indiana and
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: the Kraken will be in action tonight in Calgary to
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: take on the Flames. They have lost nine of their
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: last ten games. They've got to get it right and
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: right now. Lane Lambert in the program, struggling, no question
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: about that. Those are your frost brewed cors like choose
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Chill headlines again twelve man round table today at eight.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Mike Sander will join us DELP preview the game tonight
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: at nine to thirty. And yes, there is a playoff
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: picture to consider here. So let me paint this for you,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: let me bob ross it for you here. Maybe we'll
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: put a little bush down here. Sometimes mistakes can turn
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: into something wonderfully on a canvas. But yeah, Bush exactly,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: But game day tonight, and yes, the Seahawks can clinch
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: a playoff spot tonight where they win. It's just as
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: simple as that. A win and they are in the postseason.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: But they're certainly more at stake than that. You got
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: your eye fixed on finishing first place in the NFC West,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: which almost certainly is going to lead to you finishing
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: with the number one seed in the entire NFC playoffs,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of good that comes from that.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: That's home field advantage throughout your NFC playoffs. That's also
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: a bye. Now we have seven teams in the playoffs,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: only one team gets a bye. It's the team with
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: that one seed. So there is certainly a lot to
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: gain from this victory tonight. It doesn't guarantee you anything.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: You still have to play care Carolina, You still have
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: to play San Francisco. San Francisco, believe it or not,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: controls its own destiny as well. All three of these
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: teams do. Rams Seahawks forty nine ers.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: All three of.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Them control their own destiny. If they went out, they're
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: going to be the number one seed, because the Seahawks
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: have to turn around in a couple of weeks and
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: take on the forty nine ers and not ignore Carolina,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: and they're push they're a better team with a lot
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: at stake next week. So there is a lot still
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: left to do, but there's no doubt that a win
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: tonight at home against the Rams. Thanks to that Rams
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: loss a couple of weeks ago that was so unexpected,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: we are in a position to take stranglehold of the
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: NFC West and that number one seed with a victory tonight.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: That's why this thing is so damn huge.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: It's huge.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: I mean it feels like, I mean they're going to
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: make the playoffs. The Seahorks are going to make the playoffs.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: So there would have to be like a month. They'd
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: have to lose all of them and then somebody else
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: come up there. Try has to win them all, very simple.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: If they lost them all in Detroit, won them all
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: then Detroit, and there's still a chance the Seahawks get
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: in by percentage points because we did not face.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Detroita right right, It basically is a greater than ninety
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: nine percent chance that they're gonna make the playoffs. But
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: how you make the playoffs is a different story. And
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: to me, when I look at, Okay, what you have
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: going forward, and you can't look past tonight's game. Obviously
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: that's the first thing, but it's if you don't win
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: this game, the idea of you getting that number one spot,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: winning the division, when when the Rams get to play
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Atlanta and Arizona, it seems futile. It seems like you
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: basically that is gone. The division is gone, the number
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: one seed is gone. So then you're going on the
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: road and playing somebody and making it a little bit
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: tougher path. Not that they can't play on the road,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: but it's just tougher. You'd much rather have a buy.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a It's a big one, There's no
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: doubt about it. I mean, then you move on to
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: the next game and you got to try to take
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: care of business against Carolina, who at this point still
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: has something to play for. They're in a big division
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: game this weekend against the Buccaneers. So and then you
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: get the Niners at the end of it, who are
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: just trying to kind of wait in the grass and
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: sneak up and bite somebody.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: I think the great thing is though, that it is
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: all in your own control, right, you control your destiny.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: You're not saying, Okay, well we've got to win out
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: and we need these other things to happen for us
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: to be in the position we want to be in.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: All you have to do, not that it's easy, but
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: you just have to win your games, So focus on you.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: You don't have to worry about what other people are doing.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: They do of the three of the toughest remaining schedule, yes,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I mean the Rams lost at Carolina just a couple
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago, so they can get you, and then
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: they still have to play San Francisco.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: But yes, that's the exact position.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: After fourteen games that you want to be in, right,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: be able to control your own destiny. Have a home
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: game against the team that has already beaten you once
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: here tonight, and to take them out and look, I
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: mean as much value goes with this win and finishing
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: out winning the division and most likely taking the well,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: you would end up with the one seed. If you
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: want out, you even control that. I don't think that
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the road I mean is as daunting as it normally is.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't end up with the one seed,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I think there's still a very good chance that you
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: could be champs of the NFC. Number one, you're a
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: better road team right now than you are a home
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: team for whatever reason. I mean as just factual, you know,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: just record wise. And Number two, I mean, I don't
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: know if there is a great team in the National
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Football League this year, The Rams I think have been
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the closest to it, most consistently in the neighborhood of
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: greatness all season long. Certainly the Seahawks have spent some
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: time at club greatness this year, but I don't think
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: they've been as consistently great as what the Rams have been,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: and so particularly in the NFC. I mean, the Philadelphi
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Eagles are coming off a Super Bowl and they look
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: absolutely damaged. I mean, they are very fortunate to be
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: in a division with Dallas, Washington and the Giants, because
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I think that they really be panicking right now because
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: their season seems to be slipping away from them in Philadelphia.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: But statistically they're in the right division. But so I
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: don't think that's a great team to have to go through.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I certainly think they're a team that could get their
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: stuff together in three weeks time, and at home in
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: the Northeast might be a really difficult place to win,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: but I don't see Los Angeles being some daunting home
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: field advantage. The scary part about them is that they're
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: really good, yes, and they're really well coached. That's the
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: scary part about facing them in the playoffs. It's not
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: because you have to play it in Los Angeles, and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any chance you're going to be
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: the seventh seed. So and I don't think Tampa as
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: the four seed is any intimidating place to play or
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: an intimidating team to face. So I don't think there's
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: a really a scenario. I don't think there's a gauntlet
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: that you're facing, even if you do miss being the
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: one seed. I think it's just that type of year.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Whoever plays the best in the NFC playoffs is going
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: to win. I don't think it's gonna come down to
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: home field advantage or.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: You know what road that you're on.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: But certainly you would love to have the buye first
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: and foremost and make everybody come through loud ass Seattle
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: to try to take you down. So, yes, tonight is huge.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I just don't feel like it's make or break when
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: it comes to whether or not you can still achieve
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: all of your big, giant, lofty goals.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: The goal is to win the Super Bowl, obviously, and
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I think that they have the right. They've played themselves
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: into that conversation and have the right to do it.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I see it as just drastically tougher if you just
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: have to not just play the extra game.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: That's a big one. Obviously.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Everybody wants to win out and control your own destiny
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: and you get the buy everybody would say that right.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: If you don't and you end up becoming the five
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: or possibly the six seed, depending on how the next
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: couple of games go. Buccaneers, I mean they they put
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: it on you here at home. Now they're not playing
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: the same as they would.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Put it on us.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I mean they barely won a game where we played
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: our only crap defensive game of the entire year.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: It felt like they did they did what they wanted
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: to do. That they came into your house and did
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: what they wanted to do. And that to me was
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: if if there's a game that would worry me, it
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: would be the Buccaneers because of the fact.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: That that's not the team nearly as well. Now as
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: what they were, I agree, but they can on any
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: good day. I just say this just I don't mean
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: to cut you off, but bring on the Buccaneers. I'll
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: face them any time anywhere.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, you might get that, and then I would.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Say the same thing with the forty against them, And
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: there's no way that Mike McDonald's giving up thirty five
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: points to anybody.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, they have to that exact team this season.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: So I'm just saying it's just it's not I'm not
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: saying it's impossible. I don't think that if they lose
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: this game and they have to go on the road
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: during the playoffs so they don't get the number one
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: seed and they don't win the division, that they can't
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: do it. I'm agreeing with you. I feel like it's
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: much tougher, not just because of the one extra game.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I think the Buccaneers are a team that you got
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: to worry about, and if you if they've played each
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: other already this year and we've seen that outcome at
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: one point time, and I agree, they're not playing near
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: as well right now. Same thing though with the Eagles.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: The Eagles to me have floundered their way to nine
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: and five. I mean, there's still nine and five. It's
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: not like they you know they're gonna win the division
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: at eight and nine, you know there's still nine and five.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if they get to ten or
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: eleven wins before this whole thing's done, and going and
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: playing at Philadelphia. That's a team most certainly that if
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: they get hot at the right time, you got to
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: worry about it, and you know it just everything just
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: seems a whole heck of a lot easier if you
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: get to stay home, sleep in your own bed, you get.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Oh God, I'm acknowledging the muchness of getting the number
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: one seed. I just don't think this is a I
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: think that I don't mean to call them out by name,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: but I think Greg's kind of painted this as you're
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: not gonna win if you don't get home fielded. I
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: don't feel that way. I think that this is not
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the year where if you don't get the number one seed.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: It just to me, there's just not this gauntlet of
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: teams great teams out there this year. I'm not even
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: sure if there's one in the entire National Football League
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: that I would call a great football team, and I
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: don't think that the home field advantages that you'd have
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: to manage. And I acknowledge I'll give Philadelphia and Green Bay,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: but I don't think we end up in Green Bay.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think that the math works that way. But
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: other than that, I don't think that there's some road
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: that you have to go on that is filled with
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: you know, spikes and peril and danger.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say too.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: Just to finish up the note on the Buccaneers, when
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: we played them, we didn't have Nick emn Warry out there,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: which has made a huge difference.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: And I don't think the defense in general was the
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: same as I think.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald has night terrors like waking up in the
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: middle of the night like, oh, are you dreaming about
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: the Buccaneers again?
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: Honey?
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how did that happen?
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: Yea, yeah, because it was just an offensive game. But
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: it was a I mean, it was again a three
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: point game. It was they were trading touchdowns for touchdowns.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: So I don't think it would be that same outcome.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I don't either.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I don't either, And frankly, Caroline is playing better than them.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've got to still beat Carolina. I just
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: heard their head coach say that his team is basically
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: quit on the season last week.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Oh and I guess they did have nicky Menmorrey at
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: that's when I was wrong.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, I think that I'm not
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: going to be worried about that, but I don't want
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: to make it about that. This conversation, obviously tonight is huge.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Love to have the number one seed. There's nothing else
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: that the focus is on for Mike McDonald and the
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: entire Seahawks organization. Then winning this game tonight, finishing it off,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: not letting San Francisco steal their lunch money on the
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: last week of the regular season, having that first round,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: by having everybody have to come through Seattle in order
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: to in your control. Yeah, keep things into control. I
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: just don't the only point I was making, I just
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: don't feel and I felt like that in the past.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: You know that if you don't get that number one seed,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: my gosh, what you have to do to get to
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I don't think it's one of those years.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: So but let's not worry about it. Let's just take
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: the number one seed and go from there.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I like it all right.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, weather could play a major role in
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: tonight's game, but maybe not as major of a role
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: as we thought earlier in the week. Brian McMillan from
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Fox thirteen's going to join us next Sports Radio ninety
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM Thursday Night Football. We are front
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and center. We are the center of the football world
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: tonight as we get ready to take on the Los
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. Hopefully our football team puts its best foot
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: forward or city puts its best foot forward. I'm certain
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: that it will, But what kind of conditions are the
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: teams going to play in? It seems to be that
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the week it felt pretty dire,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: but maybe the forecast is changing a little bit. We're
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: so confused we wanted to check in with an expert,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: and so joining us now here on the radio program
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Chief Meteorologist at Fox thirteen, Right here in Seattle, Brian
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: McMillan b mack himself is with us on Chuck and Buck.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: What up? Chief?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, how's.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: It calling this morning? It's game day? We're excited. Go Hawks?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Do you make everybody call you Chief? Around the station? There?
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I would if I were you.
• 30:24
  Speaker 11: When I got the promotion, it was a little weird. Yeah,
• 30:27
  Speaker 11: like everybody started calling me that. It felt a little weird,
• 30:30
  Speaker 11: but I kind of like it now.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: To be honest, make every let everybody off the hook button, Levine,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Make Levine continue to call your chief. Yeah, but everybody
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: else can call you Brian or b mac or whatever.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: He has to call you chief for the rest.
• 30:44
  Speaker 10: Of his cares, right exactly.
• 30:47
  Speaker 11: You know, he's a massive dobby. Whenever I see Aaron Roand,
• 30:49
  Speaker 11: I just throw trivia questions at him.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: All the time and he always gets them right. It's
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: really frustrating. Has his head gotten big since he's become
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Jeopardy champion over there?
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: Little?
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a little? Let's be honest, I mind.
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: Would too?
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on then?
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Never how many people can say that?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we needed to check in with an
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: expert today. There's a lot of speculation as to what's
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: going on tonight, the best as you can tell, right now,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: seven thirty in the morning here on game day.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: What kind of weather are we going to.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Have this evening for the football game?
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: Well, right now we have steady rain okay across the region.
• 31:26
  Speaker 11: I think by the time we get into game time,
• 31:28
  Speaker 11: So five p fifteen kickoffs here tonight at Luomenfield, We're
• 31:31
  Speaker 11: gonna be looking at kind of on and off showers
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: by the time we get to kickoff. But I think
• 31:35
  Speaker 11: the bigger story tonight is gonna be that wind because
• 31:38
  Speaker 11: it's gonna be kicking in again.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: We'll see guts.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Around thirty to forty miles an hour.
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: So I don't think you're gonna see Meyers kicking six
• 31:45
  Speaker 11: field goals tonight or you know, probably not those fifty
• 31:48
  Speaker 11: sixty yarders.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: So might have to get the.
• 31:51
  Speaker 11: Run game going a little bit more this evening. It's
• 31:54
  Speaker 11: gonna be blustery, there will be showers at times, and
• 31:57
  Speaker 11: TIMPs are gonna be a little closer to fifty tore.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: We always get one of these games.
• 32:02
  Speaker 11: I feel like every every year here in Seattle, for
• 32:05
  Speaker 11: these Seahawks games, we get one that's you know, it's
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: either dumping rain or it's a little bit windy or.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Something like that.
• 32:11
  Speaker 11: And tonight's going to be that in prime time under
• 32:14
  Speaker 11: the lights.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: B Mac, I don't have the same tools I would
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: imagine that you do when it comes to looking her.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: No, chief, No, I'm not a chief.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I have an iPhone and that's that's it, But I
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: did look up the layers or one of the screens
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: that had the wind, and it looked like it was
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: coming straight from the south.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: So I'm wondering, does it is it still? Do you
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: think it'll be swirling in there?
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Or is this Could it just be one of those boy,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: you're either throwing straight into the wind or kicking straight
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: into the wind, or you got it at your.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Back one of the two.
• 32:45
  Speaker 11: I think it's kind of interesting down there illumining because yeah,
• 32:48
  Speaker 11: the wind's gonna be coming in from the south or
• 32:50
  Speaker 11: kind of the southwest at that point.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: But yeah, when it.
• 32:54
  Speaker 11: Gets when it gets in the stadium there, it can
• 32:57
  Speaker 11: kind of swirl around a little bit. I wonder if
• 33:00
  Speaker 11: you know, when we're usually, you know, on the coin toe,
• 33:03
  Speaker 11: you're thinking about, okay, am I going to kick or
• 33:05
  Speaker 11: am I going to defer? But they may be thinking about, okay,
• 33:10
  Speaker 11: which side of the field do we want to be
• 33:12
  Speaker 11: on instead? Because you probably want to in the game
• 33:16
  Speaker 11: kicking with the wind as opposed to into the wind.
• 33:20
  Speaker 11: That might be interesting tonight and you're gonna be want
• 33:23
  Speaker 11: to of course, want to be kicking towards the s
• 33:26
  Speaker 11: the north end zone there, so that'll be interesting this
• 33:29
  Speaker 11: evening because you know, we've had to rely on that
• 33:31
  Speaker 11: kicking game here for the past few weeks.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Not every chief meteorologist can insert valid football strategy in
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: it was forecasts, but chief care they get it done
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: with Chief Meteorologist Brian McMillan over there.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: At Fox thirteen. All right, So, I mean, what's the
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: margin for air?
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, you guys always are told you, you know,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: that you got the forecast wrong, but you get it
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: right more often than you get it wrong. And so
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: what's the what's the margin for air? I mean, what
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: kind of send its chance? Do you give it to
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Brian that the forecast changes between now and five point fifteen?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna change.
• 34:08
  Speaker 11: But okay, you know people, it's funny people people remember
• 34:11
  Speaker 11: like the three to five percent so.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: That we're that we're wrong.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they hold on to it, and they hold
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: on to bath for good for years. For years.
• 34:23
  Speaker 11: You I was repaving my driveway and you were ruined
• 34:25
  Speaker 11: that that one time back in twenty fourteen.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: You know, stuff like that.
• 34:28
  Speaker 11: But uh no, this is this has been pretty consistent
• 34:34
  Speaker 11: in regards to our weather modeling and all that stuff.
• 34:37
  Speaker 11: Here over the past few days that we're gonna see
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: some win today. So yeah, it's not terrible. It's not
• 34:42
  Speaker 11: gonna be like what we have yesterday morning. I don't
• 34:44
  Speaker 11: know if you guys still have power at your house
• 34:46
  Speaker 11: or if you got.
• 34:46
  Speaker 10: It knocked out during that.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: That's not gonna be that bad.
• 34:49
  Speaker 11: But tonight it will be annoying, and it will be blustering,
• 34:53
  Speaker 11: and you're gonna want to bundle up and you're gonna
• 34:54
  Speaker 11: want to wear your rain gear just in case.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Uh, that's gonna be the.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Story down there at lumin But it should be fun.
• 35:00
  Speaker 11: Its gonna be fun.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: This is the game of the season so far.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right right.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: I've always wondered this, if you guys have the ability
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: to figure out which kind of rain it is, because
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: we all know we've got enough rain up here. You
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: get that soaking rain, you know, big drops and just
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: torrential downpour. You get that seattle mist that is just
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: more annoying, but it doesn't need You have ended up
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: getting drenched in the whole thing.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: But it's not all that bad.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Do you guys have information where you can tell the
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: difference between what kind of rain it's going to be.
• 35:27
  Speaker 11: It's like Forrest Gump, right, you know, upside down rain
• 35:30
  Speaker 11: and you got all the heavy rain day rain. Yeah,
• 35:37
  Speaker 11: you know, we can see you know the level of
• 35:39
  Speaker 11: precip so like, yeah, how how intense it's gonna be.
• 35:42
  Speaker 11: Sometimes it's like small pockets where it's gonna be really
• 35:46
  Speaker 11: heavy for about five minutes and then it kind of
• 35:48
  Speaker 11: moves on. What we're seeing this morning is really light,
• 35:51
  Speaker 11: kind of misty light, showery rain. It's really annoying for
• 35:54
  Speaker 11: people with glasses like myself. You know, you need like
• 35:57
  Speaker 11: little windshel wipers.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: On your glasses.
• 35:59
  Speaker 11: But to night it's going to be more just on
• 36:01
  Speaker 11: and off normal Pacific northwest showery rain. Most of the
• 36:05
  Speaker 11: heavier stuff's going to move its way south into Portland.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: They're gonna be dealing with that here later on tonight.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: All right, be mac Thank you very much, sir. We
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: appreciate it, Chief, and enjoy the game tonight. I know
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: you'll be watching, and this was some really valuable data
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: for us, So thank you. Thanks boys. I'll be there.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. We gotta yell loud tonight, Go Hawks.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Brian McMillan from Fox thirteen. Chief meteorologist.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: He's not just some foot soldier. Oh no, No, he's
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: the chief over there. Yeah, And I love it.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I love that he's just like, now, this is going
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: to be the weather tonight, Like it's not going to
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: change what I'm telling you.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: That's the weather tonight.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: And I guess I can live with that. I know that, Hugh,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about weather in the roundtable. He'll tell you
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: what you don't want. It is across the field. So
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: if it's at back or you're throwing against it, that's
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: a lot better than it going across the field because
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: it's a little more unpredictable. But I do believe it
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: just hammers home. And maybe I'm reading into it because
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: it's my cliche key to victory. I just don't want
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: this team diging a hole to try to prove that
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: they're good at something that over fourteen games that.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: They haven't been.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: If we can run the football tonight, great, take the weather,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: take the win completely out of our chances. I mean,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: we can just eliminate that element. Ken Walker finally goes
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: off for one hundred and seventy five yards and we
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: win by thirteen over the Los Angeles Rams, and we
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: dance in the damp streets. Okay, that's great, but I
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: don't want to dig a hole because based off of
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that forecast, I don't think we're gonna be able to
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: come back against this quality of a team, And because
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: of the weather, I don't think we're gonna be able
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: to Jason Myers our way to a victory tonight. We
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: got to score touchdowns, and I don't want to just
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: spend an entire half trying to figure out if we
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: can run against this team tonight.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying, and I understand it. I
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: would be willing to bet that they're gonna do it, though,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I would be willing to bet that because of it. Yes,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: if it's just a straight, you know, north south wind, yeah,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: I think it is not as difficult as this crosswind
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: that he always explains that said.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: You still you just throw it into the wind and all.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Of a sudden, the gus catches it and it's underthrown,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: and you know, maybe it works out in your favor,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: maybe it's the other way around, and now their receiver
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: stops and you get a long PI call. I just
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: think that there's both teams are going to be like
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: we want to take that risk out of the equation
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: a little bit and see if the run game works.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Because I'm with you if if you do try it
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden he snaps off a couple
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: of big runs or consistent runs and moving chains.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, you might you might win
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: the thing running away.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, i'le maybe you run against the wind like they
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: worked for Bob Seob Seger would tell you, or and
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: throw with the wind. I mean, would you make it
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: that obvious to the opponent? I don't know, but we
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: will certainly get some analysis from Greg and Hugh. Game
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Day twelfth Man Round Table coming up at eight o'clock,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Mike Sando at nine thirty. Pretty much from eight to ten,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: nothing but Seahawks and Rams, which gives me this one
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: little crack in the show to ask Ashley and Bucky
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: for their hot stove Christmas Wish of twenty twenty five
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. And there are
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of things to discuss Backay, it's a good thing.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: We got two guys that are pretty sharp when it
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: comes to covering the Seahawks. Me and that's right, you
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: and Ashley and yeah, Yeah, goodness, I'm here.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'm sure the listeners agree.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: It's time for the twelfth Man Round Table. Our QB
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: one one Hugh Millan is here, our Seahawks insider Greg
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Bell is here, and we welcome them to the radio program. Hello, gentlemen,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Happy game day.
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: Good morning, good morning. Yes it is a happy game day.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Good morning, LFG. How much let's go, come on, not it?
• 40:07
  Speaker 10: Come?
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: Let's get him out there?
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: You?
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: Uh?
• 40:15
  Speaker 11: This?
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: This stadium better sound like the Boston Garden beat l A,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: come on the old I mean, I mean, does it
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: get any more full tilt regular season fired up.
• 40:29
  Speaker 10: For this than this?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Hugh?
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, put this one in perspective in terms of
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: hout excited you are to watch a Seahawk football game. Oh,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's been I can't years for sure. I
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: don't know. I just I really like this team. I
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: love Mike McDonald, uh, Sam Donald.
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: I think the principals, you know, Devin Witherspoon, I just
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: can't stop thinking about that, dude. Just you know, I
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: just I just love the makeup of the team. I
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: think they're on the incline.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: But it's go time.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: This is this is all gas, no breaks tonight. You
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: got a chance to go put yourself in the pole
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: position for the number one seed in the NFC. You know,
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: Pat Mahomes is out like there is a path to
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: the Lombardi Trophy. Those guys know it.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: All the storylines. I'm eating up every single one of them.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Greg.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I remember when they lost to the Rams and the
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Seahawks are already talking about we can't wait to face
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: them again.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Well, here we go.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: And they didn't cost themselves with some trap loss in
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: the meantime, so they understand what's at stake here this evening.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: What's the vibe over there in Renting right now?
• 41:38
  Speaker 12: Well, I think this may benefit that this is a
• 41:41
  Speaker 12: short week. The vibe is that they're tired from having
• 41:45
  Speaker 12: played the Colts and they are aware of the stakes obviously.
• 41:50
  Speaker 12: And Julian Love talked to me the other day on
• 41:52
  Speaker 12: Monday and he says, like some guys will say, oh,
• 41:54
  Speaker 12: this is a December game and this is just another
• 41:58
  Speaker 12: game or a championship opportunity, like a former coacher he
• 42:01
  Speaker 12: used to say.
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: But Jorian Love saying, nah, we know what the stake here.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a chance.
• 42:06
  Speaker 9: At the number one seed and home field and playing
• 42:08
  Speaker 9: all games in Seattle and getting a buy the only
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: buying the conference. They're well aware that the vibe is
• 42:14
  Speaker 9: that they're excited for being able to put themselves in
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: this opportunity, that they've earned the opportunity. But you know what,
• 42:21
  Speaker 9: they also know they haven't beaten the Rams in forty
• 42:24
  Speaker 9: nine ers, and they understand themselves that they have to
• 42:27
  Speaker 9: prove to themselves that they can do that.
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: This is why they hired Mike McDonald.
• 42:32
  Speaker 9: This is why to beat Sean McVay and beat Kyle
• 42:35
  Speaker 9: Shanahan inside the NFC West, and he hasn't done it.
• 42:38
  Speaker 9: He did it in the JV game at the end
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: of last season. But as she and I have talked about,
• 42:42
  Speaker 9: let's just throw that out. But this is why Mike
• 42:45
  Speaker 9: McDonald's here, So let's see what happens. We're going to
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: talk about factors and a bunch of stuff this hour.
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: I want to bring up right off the top that
• 42:53
  Speaker 9: I think the biggest factor as far as the conditions
• 42:56
  Speaker 9: tonight are, is going to be the wind. There's forecast
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: to be twenty million hour wins gusting up to forty
• 43:02
  Speaker 9: as the game begins and then tapering off and not
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: being quite as strong as the game continues. They can
• 43:08
  Speaker 9: deal with rain, he will tell you that, especially at
• 43:11
  Speaker 9: the NFL level, but now even at college, at a
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: high school level, they swap the ball out every time.
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: The referees allowed to bring in a new, fresh, dry
• 43:19
  Speaker 9: ball every single snap.
• 43:20
  Speaker 8: It's the wind that you have to count.
• 43:23
  Speaker 9: I would talk tonight show when I was filling in
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: for Ian yesterday afternoon to Mike Holgrim, and the coach said, Yeah,
• 43:28
  Speaker 9: of all the things you deal with and figure out
• 43:31
  Speaker 9: and put into your game plan of factors that could
• 43:32
  Speaker 9: affect you, the wind is the one that you actually
• 43:35
  Speaker 9: have to really pay attention to. He says. It'll make
• 43:38
  Speaker 9: you throw the ball shorter, It'll make you run the
• 43:40
  Speaker 9: ball more, It'll make you tell your punter he's got
• 43:42
  Speaker 9: a line drive kicks instead of boot him as far
• 43:44
  Speaker 9: as hard as he can. And of course it'll affect
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: the field goal kickers, especially into the open end downtown,
• 43:50
  Speaker 9: right the left. As you're watching on TV tonight, all
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: of that adds to the preparation and the intrigue of
• 43:57
  Speaker 9: his game. And I mentioned this to you already, Chuck,
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: there are going to be things tonight. None of us
• 44:03
  Speaker 9: have seen Mike McDonald do on defense to Sean McVay,
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: all kinds of combinations, and Nick even worry.
• 44:09
  Speaker 10: Use.
• 44:10
  Speaker 9: The only thing we haven't seen Nick Eman worry do
• 44:12
  Speaker 9: is play nose tackle, and we may see that tonight too.
• 44:15
  Speaker 9: We're going to see a bunch of stuff that McVay
• 44:17
  Speaker 9: hasn't seen, and mcvay's gonna have a few things for McDonald.
• 44:21
  Speaker 9: The thing about the short week and only three days
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: in between games, though, is you can't do too much
• 44:25
  Speaker 9: of that or else the players will play slow and
• 44:28
  Speaker 9: think too much this week in Rent and they've really
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: tried to emphasize what they do well, and they're going
• 44:34
  Speaker 9: to simplify to what they do best with a couple
• 44:37
  Speaker 9: of new things, and they want those guys not thinking
• 44:39
  Speaker 9: and just playing fast.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's separate those two because those are
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: two pretty big topics. So Hugh, first, let's deal with
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: the weather. How's it going to affect Sam, How's it
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: gonna affect Myers? How's it going to affect the game tonight?
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, I've i designed a football that for
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: ten years that ultimately became an Adida's ball.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I've put footballs and win tunnels. I've started in Buffalo.
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: The windiest game I've ever played in my life was
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: playing against the Bills. And and here's my takeaway. You
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: can throw down wind if you drive the ball. You
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: can throw into the wind if you drive the ball.
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: But if you go the wind is going across the
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: ball and hits the fat part of the ball.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: There's no there's no.
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: Quarter John, not John Elway, not Josh Allen, there's nobody's
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: not who's going to be not affected by a ball
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: across the wind across the ball. And and I remember,
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: you know, in Buffalo, in the first quarter, I throw
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: out to the flat to the running back John Steve,
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: and the.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Ball just was like a frisbee.
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: And and and I went on to uh, I went
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: on the headset and I said, look, I can throw
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: it between the numbers, but either way, I can throw
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: it between then, but I can't don't.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I can't throw it outside the numbers because of this win.
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And and so that that's going to be a
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: factor is knowing which direction it goes, because because Sam
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: Doron can spin that ball, he can pierce it. But
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: but here here's here's schematically how it's likely to be
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: effect if you play the Seahawks may play more press
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: coverage in the wind for the following reason. A lot
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: of the quick game that is in an NFL playbook,
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: a hitch, a five yard out, a twelve yard out,
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: a skinny post. There are a number of routes that
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: what's called convert to a fade, and so you basically
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: tell a receiver, hey, you get press. You know, oh
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: that that route return turns into a fade. And now
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: throwing the ball up the sideline and trying to throw
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: a touch that that's the ball that gets tossed around
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: the most so you could see, you know, and you
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: don't need to have a safety on that half of
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: the field. You can play single safety press, whether it's
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: cover three deep zone or whether it's what's called cover
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: one man and man and do that against doing that
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: against the Rams now they may have it done against them,
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: but that would be a schematic factor and something that
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: you should look for tonight.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: But I g ask Greg another reason to try to
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: establish the run tonight.
• 47:22
  Speaker 9: Yes, I think in any weather condition, this team needs
• 47:27
  Speaker 9: to do more of that and better. They ran from
• 47:30
  Speaker 9: just forty nine yards to Seahawks did against the Colts,
• 47:32
  Speaker 9: yet they ran twenty two times. Most teams, if you're
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: getting forty nine yards, you just stop running. And we've
• 47:38
  Speaker 9: learned time and again that Klint Kobiek will not just
• 47:41
  Speaker 9: stop running. He's going to continue to do it. He's
• 47:44
  Speaker 9: going to do it tonight to help out Josh Jones,
• 47:46
  Speaker 9: who has to start up left tackle, because I've mentioned
• 47:48
  Speaker 9: this was the wrong week for Charles Cross to come
• 47:50
  Speaker 9: back from a hamstring injury, playing in only four days
• 47:53
  Speaker 9: after the last time. So it's gonna be Josh Jones
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: making his first Seattle start, in fact, his first start
• 47:58
  Speaker 9: since twenty twenty three in September of twenty three when
• 48:02
  Speaker 9: he made his last start for Houston and then hasn't
• 48:04
  Speaker 9: started for the Texans or Baltimore since then. So they're
• 48:09
  Speaker 9: probably going to start by running the ball. And when
• 48:12
  Speaker 9: I was a coach Holmgern yesterday he said that they
• 48:14
  Speaker 9: need to run it with Kenneth Walker in a game
• 48:16
  Speaker 9: like this, with his athletic and as as strong as
• 48:19
  Speaker 9: the Rams defensive front, they need a guy who makes
• 48:21
  Speaker 9: those guys miss and him that's Walker over sharpening, and
• 48:24
  Speaker 9: we've talked about that. The question, and of course is
• 48:27
  Speaker 9: the remains. Are they going to be effective running? Because
• 48:31
  Speaker 9: that's the key. The Rams can spit on the running
• 48:35
  Speaker 9: game with their front. They don't have to do anything extra,
• 48:37
  Speaker 9: They don't have to bring another safety down in the box.
• 48:40
  Speaker 9: They can control Seattle's running game with what they have
• 48:43
  Speaker 9: up front. So can Kubiak force any change in the
• 48:47
  Speaker 9: front for the Rams that would allow them to open
• 48:50
  Speaker 9: up the pass game down the field? And it's going
• 48:53
  Speaker 9: to be the same against the forty nine ers in
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: the last week of the season. They got to run
• 48:56
  Speaker 9: the ball to win the division.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Hey, maybe that's the case here and maybe weather changes this.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I just I've been stating this and I'll get your
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: reaction to it all week long. I just don't want
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: to lose this game, just constantly trying to establish something
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: they haven't been good at all year. If I'm going
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: to lose this game, I want to lose it with
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald throwing the football. What's your reaction to that? Yeah,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: I tend to agree with you.
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: Of course, the win may play a factor in that,
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: but when may change that completely. I mean to stay
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: ahead of the of the sticks, you know. I think
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: that you you you pass first and then you mix
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: it up with run, particularly in the red zone. The
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: Seahawks on first down in the red zone for the
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: entire season average two point two yards on first down
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: running the ball. They are constantly getting behind the sticks.
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: It's like it's it's like a hitter Bucky right there.
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: They're constantly one in every at bat when they get
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: into the red zone. And so the percentage has changed.
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: So that's a factor for them.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: They didn't have Sundell in the last meeting. That Olua
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: Timmy making his first start. That was pivotal in Donald's
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: first interception. The issue with Josh Jones, you know, it's
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: it's something that Seattle's gonna have to work around. And
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: and I'll give you just here, here's a factor that
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: Mike McDonald is is just gonna have to and Clint
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: Kubik have are going to have to work around. These
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: are the rankings of the Seahawks offensive line per Pro
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: Football Focus.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Left to right.
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: Now, I'm gonna say Charles Cross and I'll come back
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: to Josh Jones. Charles Cross twenty six, Tackle Zabel sixty six,
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: Sundell twenty six. This is rankings at your position, then
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: sixty one, and then twenty three. Here's the RAMS ranking
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: left to right, left tackle eight, then five, nine to
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: two and ten. Not one lineman outside of the top ten,
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: not one Sea Hawk inside the top twenty. And Josh Jones,
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: for what it's worth, is at a level that would
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: be fifty thirds. So so there's a decided advantage at
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: least by that metric for the Rams. And and and
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: yet there's some advantages for Seattle. But when you're talking
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: about the running game, Chuck, and you're you're, you're, you're
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: leaning on that disadvantage, I would tend agree, don't knock
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: your head against the wall, you know, try and get
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: some big plays down the field.
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: Could I say something about pro football references, football focuses
• 51:29
  Speaker 9: rankings for a minute. It had Byron Murphy as one
• 51:32
  Speaker 9: of the worst defensive interior defensive linemen in the league
• 51:35
  Speaker 9: last week, and Mike McDonald said it was the best
• 51:38
  Speaker 9: game he's ever seen a defensive tackle play. He said,
• 51:41
  Speaker 9: he was unbelievable. And I was watching Byron Murphy split
• 51:43
  Speaker 9: defensive tackles and make tackles that the line of scrimmager
• 51:46
  Speaker 9: behind while two guys were trying to block them within
• 51:50
  Speaker 9: the circles. We've talked about Pro Football Focused, but just
• 51:53
  Speaker 9: for fans, you know, within the circles, it's the team
• 51:56
  Speaker 9: inside the buildings. In general, this is in generalation. They
• 52:01
  Speaker 9: think offensive and defensive line rankings for Pro Football Focus
• 52:04
  Speaker 9: are useless. They do believe that their tackle, outside, linebacker,
• 52:09
  Speaker 9: defensive backs, skill position player. There are some truth in
• 52:14
  Speaker 9: the rankings and they in fact, agents and teams do
• 52:17
  Speaker 9: use them, especially come contract time.
• 52:19
  Speaker 8: But it is almost just close your eyes and throw
• 52:23
  Speaker 8: dart board.
• 52:24
  Speaker 9: Sometimes to the rankings for offensive and defensive line because
• 52:27
  Speaker 9: they don't know what assignments are. They don't know where
• 52:30
  Speaker 9: guys are supposed to be, what gaps they're supposed to have,
• 52:32
  Speaker 9: what the stunts are. But I can tell you that
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: Byron Murphy inside the building is a hero. They think
• 52:39
  Speaker 9: that he has I mean he's earned. He was at
• 52:41
  Speaker 9: forty nine percent of snaps last year and we talked
• 52:43
  Speaker 9: about how that had to change. It's up now damn
• 52:45
  Speaker 9: near seventy plus percent every game because he's earned the
• 52:48
  Speaker 9: pass rush reps too. The defensive front for Seattle is
• 52:55
  Speaker 9: the key to this game. If they can continue to
• 52:58
  Speaker 9: cover with seven mcpaigh. Offense is not built for that.
• 53:02
  Speaker 9: That's that is you wouldn't we asked why is McDonald
• 53:05
  Speaker 9: having success against McVeigh. That is why if four guys
• 53:09
  Speaker 9: can affect the quarterback or at least make Stafford get
• 53:11
  Speaker 9: it out even if he doesn't get sacked, mcvayh doesn't
• 53:14
  Speaker 9: have an answer for seven men in coverage and a
• 53:16
  Speaker 9: couple of them being all pro coverber like even Worry
• 53:19
  Speaker 9: and Witherspoon. So I just when I heard Pro Football Focused,
• 53:22
  Speaker 9: I know if a lot of fans have been asking
• 53:24
  Speaker 9: why the hell Gray's abel was ranked solo? For instance,
• 53:27
  Speaker 9: why the hell Anthony Bradford is ranked so high all
• 53:29
  Speaker 9: the time? We think he's just standing around watching guys,
• 53:32
  Speaker 9: And especially the Byron Murphy was there was a disconnect
• 53:35
  Speaker 9: this week for sure.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, let me respond to that.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: First of all, I've said many times, I'm not saying
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: you haven't right that PFF is not perfect. I think
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: they get more right than they get wrong. Secondly, they
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: every single team in the NFL subscribes to their to
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: their services, and on the aggregate, what was the number
• 54:01
  Speaker 6: one ranked offensive line in football last year per Pro
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: Football Focus. The Eagles like they get more right than
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: they get wrong. I mean they get stuff wrong in
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: the secondary. I can remember in Week one against the Bengals,
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: uh where uh Sek gave up a touchdown and they
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: assigned it to the cornerback and and I'm like, no,
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: that that that was That's covered too. That's the safety.
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: Like I've had my my shake the head moments. But
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: I would say that again, as a general rule, you
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: can follow them. There's a reason why every team in
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: the NFL subscribes to them. And as for you know,
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: Anthony Bradford is ranked sixty first, UH guard does that
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: strike anybody is out of line?
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: But they event we're not. We're here to talk about
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks and the Rams. But yeah, well let's talk
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: about the de and I do In our next ever,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: we want to get into Greg's point about what tricks
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald might have up his sleeve. But here, what
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: is it in game number one that they were so effective?
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, they just shut down Matt Stafford. What do
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: you have one hundred and thirty passing yards in that game.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: It's a guy that's played like an MVP every single
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: game except against Mike McDonald's defense. So what is it
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: that they were doing so effectively against the rams offense
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: in the previous game, and then of course, what do
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: you think they'll do to adjust to mcveigh's adjustments. Well,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: there's a.
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: Big talk about the thirteen personnel and three tight ends,
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: and they had come in for four weeks in a row.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: They were hot.
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: They had like eight touchdown passes out of thirteen in
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: the couple weeks leading up to it, and Seattle played
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: mostly nickel against thirteen personnel.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: You would think that would be a big weight disadvantage.
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: Now down on the goal line, there's a couple of
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: times where they went they remained in nickel, but they
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: went with an extra defensive line and took out a linebacker.
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: But they they had the athleticism to cover the field,
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: but they also had the physicality. And then they they
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: as as they often do. They they have simulated pressures
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: where they have they make you think just a split second.
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: Even Stafford, a veteran, you know, they got guys up
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage. You don't know who's coming, but
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: they covered well, and you know they they they had
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: a couple of gap breakdowns Ernest Jones was actually a culprit,
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: and a couple of big runs where they weren't in
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: the right gap in the first quarter. They button that up,
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: and and and for the game, they held the Rams
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: to their fewest yards for the season, that at four
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: hundred and fourteen yards for the Seahawk offense, they put
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: up the most yards of the Rams defensive surrendered.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: And you go back even to a year ago when.
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: Not that we eighteen game, because that we all say
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: that's a JV game, but the one in lumen Field
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: the Seattle lost in overtime. There were seven three and
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: outs that the Seahawks defense forced against that Ram offense.
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: They only scored thirteen points offensively for the four quarters.
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: So McDonald has been able to put a lid on
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: that McVeigh offense.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no question.
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: Chilcapatti is a friend of mine who used to cover
• 57:30
  Speaker 9: the beat with me and the Seahawks, and now he's
• 57:31
  Speaker 9: with the Ringer. He's with the Athletic at times based
• 57:34
  Speaker 9: in Philadelphia. He wrote yesterday that that was the worst
• 57:37
  Speaker 9: game of Matthew Stafford's career and he's been playing for
• 57:40
  Speaker 9: him in it. If you go by the basic metric
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: that the newly analytic metric that he was mentioned EPA
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: expected points at it, he said that was the lowest
• 57:50
  Speaker 9: expected points at the game of Matthew Stafford's career. Why
• 57:53
  Speaker 9: is that, well, we mentioned two of the three touchdown
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: drives the Rams had last month against the Seahawks and
• 57:59
  Speaker 9: Englewood were four and twenty five yards because of Sam
• 58:02
  Speaker 9: Darnold's interceptions. Their three touchdowns drives are four, seventy four
• 58:07
  Speaker 9: and twenty five in two complete games eight quarters in
• 58:12
  Speaker 9: regulation play. Sean mcvay's offense has driven the field more
• 58:16
  Speaker 9: than half the field to score against Mike McDonald's defense
• 58:19
  Speaker 9: just twice. Two touchdowns and eight quarters. It's more than luck.
• 58:25
  Speaker 9: And Hugh mentioned the three tight ends. The Rams do
• 58:28
  Speaker 9: it twenty five percent of the time. The rest of
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: the league averages five percent. Thirteen personnel. The Rams do
• 58:33
  Speaker 9: it five times more than anybody else five times. And
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: tonight DeVante Adams isn't player. Wow, he's doubtful because of
• 58:39
  Speaker 9: the hamstring, which means they're probably gonna go even thirteen
• 58:42
  Speaker 9: y even thirteen ish more than they are already. Kobe
• 58:46
  Speaker 9: Parkinson's a big part of that. They have a backup
• 58:49
  Speaker 9: tight end Pergison who's six six in a matchup problem,
• 58:51
  Speaker 9: and the third string tight end is three touchdowns. The
• 58:54
  Speaker 9: reason why they go nickel against thirteen is because of
• 58:56
  Speaker 9: Nicky mun Worried, because nobody else in the league has
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: with the Seahawks nick Emon Worry. And that is the
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: reason that the Seahawks have an advantage. If they go
• 59:04
  Speaker 9: thirteen to night, they're gonna put Emon Worry, probably wolln
• 59:08
  Speaker 9: and Witherspoon all on the field. A't the same time,
• 59:10
  Speaker 9: it gets three tight ends and they can cover and
• 59:13
  Speaker 9: play the run with those guys. I think McDonald thinks
• 59:16
  Speaker 9: he's got McVeigh guys.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: I really yeah, I know, and real quick.
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: The Rams had not played that personnel group through the
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: first five weeks and then leading up to the sea
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: Hog game. Before they were at forty six percent and
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: forty five percent in the two weeks before Seattle. Then
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: they went thirty six percent. Then they seem to have said, well,
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: that didn't work very well. They dropped down to eleven
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: percent after the Seahog game, eighteen percent. Now they've cranked
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: it back up fifty eight percent two weeks ago and
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: then a season high sixty two percent this most recent Sunday.
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: So you know, it seemed like McVeigh might be ramping
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: that back up, and Greg's exactly right. Emon Worry's ability
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: to cover ground in space but also to be physical
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: at the point of attack when they run at him
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: like he.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Was against the Ram big part of that. All right,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Hu mellon Greg Bell with us. It is a game
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: day twelve man round table getting a set for Seahawks
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Rams tonight right here in Seattle. First place in the
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: division on the line for both teams who sit at
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: eleven to three on the year. What a huge game.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: And we still haven't talked about DeVante Adams not playing
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: in this game. And also, I know you're all wondering
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: what tricks Mike McDonald has up his sleeve. So we'll
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: pin Greg down with that coming up in our next segment.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Most Duck fans
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: are Hawk fans, Yeah, but most most Seahawks fans are
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: not Duck fans.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Don't want ducky. That's not true.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: Most Seahawks fans are not Duck fans.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Seattle fans are bigger than Seattle.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: Right, No, I understand that, but I'm saying most Seahawks
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: fans are not Duck fans.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: It's not the majority of a Duck.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Fans, but like most of most of them are not
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Husky fans either.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not saying they are, but if they uniforms
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: that look like Huskies.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: That would be weird too.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying that the hate for the Duck
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: connection is that's just kind of here. That's a husky thing. Yeah,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: it's a husky problem.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's gonna like these uniforms tonight.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: I just I just think they it's it's one thing
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: to look like Duck uniforms, but they look like college uniforms.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: That's what I don't like.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: I like that either.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think I want my NFL team even looking
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: like any college game. I don't want them to have
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Penn State uniforms.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: Where are your glorious throwbacks and call it a day?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, got the best uniforms on the sport right now,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna wear Duck UNI literally like a carbon
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: copy of the uniform. I picture Bo Nick's wearing correct
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: at Oregon. That's the one I picture him many.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: They're going to look good.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: When I think of, you know, picture bow Nicks at Oregon.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: It's in that uniform.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that's what.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: We're wearing, the poop splatter.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I'll get over it. It's a great game. Not gonna
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: dwell on it, not going to fixate on it. As
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I keep smelling the aroma of
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: pipe smoke. Bucky can't smell any right now? Are you
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: smelling that?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: Are you're not smelling?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure no one's smoking a pipe. I'm sure
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: there's a perfectly good explanation. But I keep smoking, hearing,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: smelling this smell of a pipe, which I don't like
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: the smell of a cigar, and I don't certainly don't
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: like the smell of a cigarette, but I really do
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: love this story.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: Now I think I'm making myself think I can smell
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: the smell of a pipe, and.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, here's what I'm thinking. They've already got the
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: victory cigar. Everybody under the age of thirty thinks Joe
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Burrow invented it. Everyone under the age of forty thinks,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Michael Jordan invented the victory cigar. Anyone over forty knows.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Red Hour Boch did it long before either one of those,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: and did it every single game. But the victory cigar
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: has been played out now in like four different generations.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Nobody does the victory pipe. Oh yeah, what do you
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: think about it? I've never smoked anything in my entire life. Literally,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: I've never smoked anything in my entire life. Should I
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: get a Should I start smoking a victory pipe? After
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: big wins here and seeat what do you think?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: I know what your Christmas gift is now?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: You should at least have to do it in the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: linter like Frosty the Snowman.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Just football's Yeah, I don't know. Maybe maybe it's one
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: of those big giant ones, you know, like the big
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: massive ones. I don't even know what they're called. Well,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: it looks like a saxophone and then it comes up there.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe I get one of those and.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: You know, walk around your talk with it. It's just
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: stuck between your teeth. You're kind to talk a little different.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Nobody does the victory pipe.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: You got to hear the little click as it like
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: hits your teeth back in your mouth.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: That's essential. Yeah, that's great idea.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: One of my best friends growing up, Gary Boker, his
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: dad Gary Boker, Uh, he had a pipe, and man,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: that was part of the joy of going over there.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: He's watching mister Boker crack out his pipe while he's
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: watching the Cubs game.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Talking to you. Yep, I like that.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: I get everybody who had one kind of has to
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: sound like Humphrey Bogart when they talk.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Really, I don't remember Humphrey Bogart smoking pipe, but like
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: you kind of have that.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Just got to have that twain to you.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: You got to like, you've got to think a lot.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: You got to put it in your mouth to think,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: and then you got to take it out to speak,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: and then you got to think again.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do you think the way you hold it
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: and then click it back in your teeth. I don't know.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: I just don't see a lot of people lighting a
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: victory pipe.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: And if somebody wants to steal this idea, because I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Do it, run with it.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: I think you have to do it.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: I would love to see on.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Social media tonight fifty different people smoking a victory I don't.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Have any pipe tobacco, but I mean I could make
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: you a pipe out of a can soda can out there.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: I can make you a tinfoil.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to run a classy operation around here. Even
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: if it's a corn cob pipe pepper.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: You've never smoked out of a doctor pepper? Can I've
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: never smoked anything? Well, I knock until you try it. Yeah,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't even smoke meats. I mean I've never done that.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: I've had them delicious.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Oh I know, I've eaten them, eat the hell out
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: of them. But anyway, maybe a victory pipe something to
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: put it on the list for this year. Uh well, look,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: we just had our round table come conversation. I mean
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: we've had We've talked about this game all day long.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: I think that there is room in that hour long
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: conversation for two rights on a different level. Number one,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: like Donald's number of interceptions. What Greg was saying, I
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: think was you just can't have minus two or more
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: in the turnover ratio tonight. You can't be solely responsible
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: for that on your statistics line. I think that's probably true.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I think that you know, you certainly can't turn the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: ball over four times like you did the last time.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: But I also think huge, right, we have fourteen games
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: of Sam Donald in a Seahawk uniform, and he's really
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: just had one of those games and it just came
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: at the wrong time against the wrong team. I don't
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: want to change anything the way Sam Donald plays. As
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald has said numerous times, let it rip. We
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: want him to let it rip. I can live perfectly
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: fine with minus one on Sam Donald's turnover ratio compared
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: to Matt Stafford. I could even live with minus two,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: I think, because I don't want it to affect how
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: aggressive he's been. He's played so confidently all year long. Man,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: when this team is struggling, all of a sudden, Sam
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Donald just like enters his own I want him dropping
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: back and letting that sucker fly. And if I gotta,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: I can't go on. I can't go minus three. We're
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: not gonna win against the Rams with a minus three
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: turnover ratio tonight. But I certainly can live with minus one.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with that. As long as
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Sam's playing confidently and playing the brand of football we've
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: watched him play for fourteen games in a Seahawk uniform.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: I think we might even be able to get away
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: with a minus two. And I would much rather have
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: a minus two than I would watch Sam Donald come
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: out here and play conservatively because he's thinking about the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: four turnovers.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: He made the previous time they played.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well you can go play scared, period, can't. You
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: can't do any sport and do it playing scared and
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: being quarterback in a big game like this. I mean,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: there's a lot that goes into all of the variables outside, right,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: I mean him, He's had a good year this year.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: They have a good team, the record.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: Has been well, and yet you have a hard time
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: so far overcoming this hump with Rams.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Even if you out played him in the.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: First time, or you know them and the Niners, there
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: still is that kind of there. They're the ones that
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: have given you wedgies more so over the last few
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: years than vice versa, and you have to kind of
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: reverse that trend to some degree. I think that there's
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: just something too big games. We got to see him
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: rise to the occasion, and that is going to come
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: from ripping it. I don't know for sure if I
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: feel as strongly about whether or not it's multiple turnovers.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: Obviously four turnovers does not help your chances, but they
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: still almost won, right, and they still come down to it.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: I would just say it's the opportunity, and so if
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: the elements are part of it, wind is a part
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: of it, and so you're gonna let it rip. There's
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: the idea of I'm going to fit it in that window.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: And if I miss, I'm missing to the away from
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: danger side of things. Right If I if I don't
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: know what the win's going to do to the ball,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: maybe I am taking a couple more checkdowns. Maybe I
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: am audible into some more runs. In certain situations, it's
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: just when you're backed up against your own goal line,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: or when you already feel that you're close enough that
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: you have points on.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: The board, don't get too terribly crazy.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: Try to rip one in there, or try to you know,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: find you know you can go ahead and squeeze into
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: a tight spot. But let's not have those big turnovers.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: I mean last year against the Rams, there was a
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: game that Gino that they basically out played. I mean
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: McDonald had out schemed McVeigh that chess match, which is
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: the most intriguing part of it. He had done his part,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: and then Gino threw like a pick six and threw
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: another interception down when they were getting ready to score
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: a touchdown or put points on the board. You just
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: got to have you can't miss opportunities. And yet you
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: have to take advantage of certain opportunities, and if that
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: means from time to time putting the ball at risk
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: when you're somewhere in the middle of the field, that's
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: so be it to.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: A difference is that now our defense has started to
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: get more turnovers, So you know, if you do see
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: some turnovers from Sam, you're gonna have to also rely
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: on the defense to step up and enforce those turnovers themselves.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: Because we had one right in our favor when we
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: played the Rams last time, and our turnover differential I
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: think was like minus eight or something just six weeks ago,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: and now we're minus one. So our defense has really
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: been stepping up and getting the ball, and I think
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: if you can do that. Coming out of that Rams game,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: we kept talking about how the positive thing despite all
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: those turnovers was that Sam never.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: Changed what he was doing.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and so I don't think he's gonna come out
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: and play scared or be worried or anything, because it
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: just doesn't seem to be his style.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's what I'm emphasizing. In Sure,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: you might have to adjust to the weather. I mean,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: I guess we'll know later on tonight how that's going
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: to impact the game. If there's a crosswind at all,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: that certainly is going to affect the passing game, as
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: you pointed out, as long as it's at your back,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: or you can drive the ball through a wind, and
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: you can certainly use it at your back, even though
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: that can be dangerous at times as well. So I'm
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: just I'm just not going to speak to how the
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: wind is going to impact tonight's throws. If it's terrible,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: then you do have to adjust, and you probably do
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: have to get a little bit more conservative. But I
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: certainly want the mindset and I would have wanted it
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: all week and Sam's head. If I'm Mike McDonald, I'm
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: making sure that it's like we have complete faith in you,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Like you know, there's no talk about, hey, Sam, we
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: can't have four turnovers.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: It is right, let it rip. So go out there
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: and play the way you've played all season long.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Because we've benefited it from it a hell of a
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: lot more than it's cost us throughout fourteen games this
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: football season.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Hughes documented that, I mean basically all season long,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: of even when people want to bring up the easiest
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: stat the turnovers, and it came up huge after the
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: four turnover, the four interception game against these guys last
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: time that Hugh, it was like, yeah, but they're explosive
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: and the big throws and all these things that come
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: from the chance that you put the ball in the air,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: and that there is an inherent danger that comes with that.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: You just can't make the crucial ones.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: And obviously you can't let them accumulate over a game
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: because then you're losing possessions which you're not gonna score
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: any points and giving them short fields like they did
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: in the first matchup.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: So I mean, I'm with you.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: I think the idea if if just weather is a
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: moot point, which I don't think it's going to be,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: but if it is, the idea should be. We believe
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: in you.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: We're not worried about you not rising to the occasion
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: in a big game.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: That was a big game against them the first time
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: you played, and you threw the ball to them, But
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: we don't think that's who you are. We don't think
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: you just can't do anything but throat it to the
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: wrong team against the Rams.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: We think you are.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: We more so to take the amount of data that
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: we have on the other what would it be thirteen
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: games that you've played that have been really good for
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: the most part. We're gonna take that that is, that's
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: who you are, and that was just that one was
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: kind of an outlier. So go out there and do
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: what you gotta do and take the team where they
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: need to go.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: And for the last hour. I think there's two rights
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: about this as well. I mean, it sounds like Hugh
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: and I are on the same page of like, I
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: don't want to spend the whole game, Ashley's on this
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: page trying.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: To establish the run.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: We don't do it well, right, but whether could dictate
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: that you might have to adjust to that. And I
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: think Greg is right. I think huge right because he
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: and I see the same I think huge I think
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: his analysis is right, and I think Greg's probably right
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: with his intimate knowledge of Mike McDonald, which is greater
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: than ours, they probably are going to spend two plus
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: quarters trying to establish the run. They won eleven games
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: out of fourteen. You know, maybe part of Sam Darnold's
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: effectiveness has been because defenses have to focus so much
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: on how often this team tries to run the football.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: My guess is Clint Kubiak is going to bang his
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: head against the wall tonight trying to establish the run,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: and if there's weather, they're even going to be more
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: convicted to it. I just don't want to see it now. Again,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: weather changes that potentially, but I don't want to get
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: to the game of the year and just be hell
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: bent on proving to the arguably the best team in
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: the National Football League.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: We could run against you.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: No, if I'm gonna lose, I'm gonna lose doing what
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: we do best. That's how that would be my mentality.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: And I like that mentality because it's at this point
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: we've you know, we've talked about the entire season what
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: they are here.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: At this point, you kind of know what you are
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: and they struggle can't run the football. It's not that
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: you can't, you're just not very efficient at it.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: You don't You try it as much, if not more,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: than everybody else, and your efficiency at it is worse
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: than just about everybody else.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: So don't pound your head against the wall.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: It doesn't mean don't keep doing it, because somehow that
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: recipe has turned into eleven victories.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: So I'm not saying abandon it.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: Just don't marry yourself solely to it, and don't think
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: that it has to be some fifty to fifty split.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: But I do think that, you know, there's going to
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: be times. I mean the idea of regardless of how
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: the wind's blowing. When Hughes starts talking about I couldn't
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: throw outside the numbers because even if the wind is
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: blown directly from the south to the north, it affects it.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: When you throw to the.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: Sideline, it's just it's hitting the side of the ball, right,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, the only time that you're basically thrown right
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: with the wind is it's going to be rare.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: So to me, I think it is going to affect it.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: And yet even with the wind it is bad. Is
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: at your back. That's prime recipe for overthrows. Yeah, well
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: then you got it.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: That's an interception. The overthrows lead the interceptions. That's safeties
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: who aren't even who aren't even playing the ball will
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: end up with picks that way. So it's going to
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: be it's going to impact. I just I'm hoping that
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: we're around, you know, twelve to fifteen and not eighteen
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: to twenty five.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for winds.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: For winds, yeah, that makes a big difference.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and so yeah, so, and then the other
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: thing is the Adams cross effect. It looks like both
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: of these teams are going to be without valuable players tonight.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: And I'm with Hugh on this one as well, Like
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: I don't we haven't seen a lot of Josh Jones,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, I got faith they Rams don't
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: have anybody that can be DeVante Adams. Well there's no
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: there's nobody Like two to two at Well cannot be
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Davante Adams. A third tight end on the field can't
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: be Davante Adams. I mean they can be effective in
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: their own way. I mean that's pretty obvious. They're a
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: very good football team, maybe even a great football team.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: But I think we got a better chance of you know,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: not feeling the effect of Cross being out than they.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: Have of Adams being out. Maybe that's just wishful thinking
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: on my point. Well, no, I there's a chance that
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: that's the case. I mean, one is a playmaker. One
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: is things somebody that breaks the game open. The other
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: one is where it's like, I need consistency for you
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: to not just get run over and let people be
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: free runners at our quarterback because that can turn into
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: allowing someone on their team to be a game wrecker
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: or a game changer. I do think that if the
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: wind is an issue, I do think that Kobe Parkinson
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: has been kind of showing out now. He's got like
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: six touchdowns last six games. His biggest game he's had
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: so far was last week. The worst game that he's
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: had in that little stretch was against Seattle and he
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: had two catches. He was only thrown two twice, and
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: one of them was a touchdown. But I will be
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: curious to see if that's an emon worry project it
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: was to some degree in the first matchup. If it's,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: you shut that guy down, because six seven two sixty
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: five is a thing that you can box people out right.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: If they do end up going with some thirteen personnel
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: to run and then they pass off of that, you
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: don't have to make real long throws and you can
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: still end up moving the change. I think there's the
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: chess match between McDonald and McVeigh that I mean the
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: other side of the ball. Obviously, Clint Kubiak against their
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: defensive scheme is just as important, but the one between
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: McVeigh and McDonald.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: Boyle boy, is that going to be crazy? He's going
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: to be MC fantastic can make delicious it's and we're
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: gonna make win it.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Victory and we're gonna make cover. We went from a
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: point and a half dog to a point and a
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: half favorite for this game. So really, who knows how
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: that gets adjusted between last night now and the start
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: of the game, because the smart money always usually comes
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: into the very end. But yeah, it seems there'd be
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  Speaker 1: a ground swell. What it is ground swell.
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  Speaker 5: When the swells mcground swell behind the that and some fries,
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  Speaker 5: maybe a couple nuggets.
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  Speaker 1: Mcground swell was the worst sandwich ideas came up with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it tastes like dirt.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, mcground swell didn't. People didn't really get it too earthy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't get it what they were doing.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this though. There are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things we don't know about this matchup. We don't know
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  Speaker 1: how the weather's going to affect it. There are a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things we cannot control. What we can control
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  Speaker 1: is the birth of the victory pipe. So let's go.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go. Holiday season. We're ready for a victory.
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  Speaker 1: No more I think about it. I want one of
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  Speaker 1: them Sherlock Home, suckers, you know that you got to
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: put your hand inside the mouth just to light the
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: you know, the weed.
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  Speaker 2: What is it called tobacco? Tobacco, Yeah, just tobacco.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, you're thinking.
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  Speaker 1: Of Mike Sando. Next, we'll get his thoughts on this matchup.
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  Speaker 1: with Mike. Here's Chuck and Buck. Fo can you not
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  Speaker 1: talk to your NFL insider on game day, the game
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  Speaker 1: of the year. Mike Sando now joins us here on
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  Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck. How fired up are you and the
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  Speaker 1: Sando household for this one, sir?
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  Speaker 10: Extremely fouled up, fired up, filed up, fired up.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody.
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  Speaker 10: I mean everybody's fired up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Or you know our dog Joel whose neat appearances on
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  Speaker 10: the show is fired up the other day. He was
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  Speaker 10: so fired up the other day that he got he
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  Speaker 10: met the FedEx driver and he ran into his truck. Okay,
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  Speaker 10: he just wanted to get on his route.
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  Speaker 2: And like ran inside of it or ran into the
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  Speaker 2: side of it.
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  Speaker 10: Into the No, he goes and hops in. You know,
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  Speaker 10: he's like, hey, I'm ready to go, and so he's
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 10: ready to go. Everyone's ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: All right. What's your favorite part of this matchup? The
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  Speaker 1: playoff puzzled, the Donald versus Stafford, the McDonald versus McVeigh,
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  Speaker 1: what's the what's the favorite part of our favorite matchup
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  Speaker 1: of the year.
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  Speaker 10: So the favorite part of it, big picture is definitely
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  Speaker 10: McDonald against McVeigh and how Mike McDonald has sort of
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  Speaker 10: turned the tables and he's got a He's doing better
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  Speaker 10: against McVeigh than anybody, right, It's awesome. That's why one
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  Speaker 10: of the reasons you hired him. I think though the
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  Speaker 10: big storyline up like the week is Donald related, just
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  Speaker 10: because a Seahawks are going to be in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 10: You know, he didn't do well late last year. He
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  Speaker 10: had the four pick game against him last time. I
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  Speaker 10: think that's probably the bigger story of the day, right,
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  Speaker 10: It's just what Donald does, can you you know, limit
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  Speaker 10: the turnovers and if they lose? Is he not really
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  Speaker 10: the reason why? I think that type of stuff is
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  Speaker 10: going to get the headlines right, and then you know
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  Speaker 10: the third thing will be, Hey, these guys are going
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  Speaker 10: to play again, right, I think that's going to be
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  Speaker 10: the third thing, especially if Seattle wins, will be Hey,
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  Speaker 10: it's even these guys, this isn't over. They're going to
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  Speaker 10: play again. So those are the three storylines in order,
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  Speaker 10: probably for me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, where what kind of advantage?
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  Speaker 3: Who gets the advantage in the chess match, that is
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  Speaker 3: the McVeigh versus McDonald situation.
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  Speaker 2: If there's really heavy wins.
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  Speaker 10: Well McDonald, I mean, it just becomes harder to throw
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  Speaker 10: the ball for both offenses.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 10: It was already hard for the Rams offense without I
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  Speaker 10: don't even think they turned it over, and it was
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  Speaker 10: hard for them playing in the great conditions of their
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  Speaker 10: home stadium, where any offense would want to play, you know.
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  Speaker 10: So to me that that's a huge X factor with
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  Speaker 10: the wind we've obviously had. I mean yesterday morning, I was, uh,
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  Speaker 10: had a saw out in the backyard. We had tree
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  Speaker 10: branches down on the fence. I mean it was like
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  Speaker 10: it looked like a it looked like a you know,
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  Speaker 10: if I tell you this, I was walking my dog yesterday,
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  Speaker 10: you might have been I might have mentioned I had
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  Speaker 10: a dog. I don't know to mention that, Joel, but
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  Speaker 10: there was a there was a trampoline had blown out
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  Speaker 10: of somebody's yard, like we're in Tennessee or something, and
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  Speaker 10: it was like lying. It was across the street, like
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  Speaker 10: lying over the path that I walk on. I've never
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  Speaker 10: ever seen a trampoline, yeah, I actually, yeah, I haven't
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  Speaker 10: seen one fly around here. You know, I've never walked
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  Speaker 10: into a trampoline. And so that type of wind stuff
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  Speaker 10: definitely favors the defensive play.
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  Speaker 1: Color was Joel still effective at his out routes though,
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  Speaker 1: and the Joel, yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Joel was I had to clean up for Joel on
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  Speaker 10: the sidewalk. It was embarrassing.
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  Speaker 2: That kind of ute.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's doing okay. He was a little
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  Speaker 10: concerned though, having to walk around it was a new thing.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Sander was with us our NFL Insider, getting you
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  Speaker 1: ready for Thursday night football. Seahawks versus Rams, bigger loss.
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  Speaker 1: Davante Adams from the Rams offense, Charles Cross from the
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks O line.
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  Speaker 10: I'm gonna say probably that's a tough one. I guess
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  Speaker 10: I'll say Cross just because I'll say Cross. I'm torn
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  Speaker 10: on it because I think the Seahawks style of play
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  Speaker 10: may not put a lot of pressure on the tackles.
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  Speaker 10: They threw the ball super short when they played the
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  Speaker 10: Rams last time. In fact, their average air yards on
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  Speaker 10: a pass was like two something. It was by far
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  Speaker 10: the lowest of any of their games. So I think
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  Speaker 10: they may be getting more conservative on offense anyway, and
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  Speaker 10: sort of mitigating the turnover risks, which could diminish how
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  Speaker 10: much the cross injury matters. I do think though, if
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  Speaker 10: Seattle gets in a situation where they have to throw
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  Speaker 10: the ball if they were behind or something, then I
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  Speaker 10: think that really becomes the bigger injury of the two.
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  Speaker 3: There's been a lot of talk leading up to this
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  Speaker 3: game about the McVeigh and how much he's using the
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  Speaker 3: thirteen personnel. If all of a sudden Devontae Adams is out,
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  Speaker 3: I would assume that they do that a little bit more.
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  Speaker 3: They can run and pass off of it. I just
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  Speaker 3: mentioned our last segment. Kobe Parkinson kind of had his
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  Speaker 3: best game last week. Every round here knows him, but
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  Speaker 3: he never did turn into anything. But the last five
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  Speaker 3: or six games they've started using him more as a weapon.
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  Speaker 3: Even when DeVante Adams was in. There is that something
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  Speaker 3: that plays into the game plan against the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: Defense or no, no.
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  Speaker 10: Doubt, Yeah it doesn't. But Seattle's defense with Nicki man
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  Speaker 10: Worry has the ability to be versatile enough to do
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  Speaker 10: well against that three tight end package. And if you
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 10: look at the output for the Rams this season in
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  Speaker 10: their three tight end package, the Seahawks defended it by
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  Speaker 10: far of anyone in the league. I don't think it
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  Speaker 10: was as many plays in that game as it may
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  Speaker 10: be in this one. But that's kind of a nice
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  Speaker 10: little sub part of the chess match. Does McVeigh deviate
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  Speaker 10: from that little because Seattle does defend it well, do
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  Speaker 10: they try to do it anyway? Do they have more
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  Speaker 10: success with it? You mentioned Parkinson. We also have to
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 10: think of Julian Love as back at safety. I believe
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  Speaker 10: he missed the first Grand Game, right, I believe so, Yes,
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  Speaker 10: So you're gonna have Julian.
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  Speaker 2: Love in there.
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  Speaker 10: You've got probably just a healthier, fuller fledged, a more
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  Speaker 10: mature Nicki min Worriy who's lining up all over the
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  Speaker 10: place and really is on a short list of five
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  Speaker 10: or six players in the league, with Kyle Hamilton a
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 10: couple of others who can really affect the game in
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  Speaker 10: a lot of different ways. So I'm going to say
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  Speaker 10: it's a good matchup for Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty for sure? Did he for sure did no
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  Speaker 2: question about it. Mike Sando is with us, and you
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  Speaker 2: are our NFL insider, and.
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  Speaker 1: Yet you used to cover the Seahawks and you still
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: live in the area, so you are our conduit to
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: this national You know narrative about the Seattle Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: I think that you know better. But I just even if.
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  Speaker 1: Sam struggles, I just don't want to hear afterwards he
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  Speaker 1: can't win the big game because I think the Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: got a winner here in Sam Donald, and I know
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  Speaker 1: that you know how well he's played all season long.
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  Speaker 1: And just because he turns the ball over against the
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  Speaker 1: Rams potentially for a couple of games, is that really
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  Speaker 1: going to stain Sam Donald's season in your.
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  Speaker 10: Estimation, Yes, if it's the reason why they don't advance
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  Speaker 10: in the playoffs. And I think this is a team
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  Speaker 10: that you know, depending on where I think this team.
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  Speaker 10: If this team doesn't win a playoff game, I think
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  Speaker 10: then those narratives matter more and become part of the conversation. Legitimately,
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  Speaker 10: I think if they were to win in the playoffs,
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  Speaker 10: even just one playoff win. I think then there's some
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  Speaker 10: of that is exercised, right, Hey, you want a playoff
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  Speaker 10: game with Donald and yeah, yeah, he's had a couple
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  Speaker 10: of bad games here there. And the turnover thing is real.
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  Speaker 10: They've they've had more turnovers than they want, and I
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  Speaker 10: think I have felt like recently they've sort of tried
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  Speaker 10: to avoid them, maybe become a little bit more conservative
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  Speaker 10: in some of their ways.
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  Speaker 11: You know.
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  Speaker 10: So we'll see if that holds up. But I do
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  Speaker 10: think it's a legitimate narrative on the table if it's
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  Speaker 10: a factor.
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  Speaker 1: All right, who finishes first, second, and third in the
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  Speaker 1: NFC West.
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  Speaker 10: I'm going to go Ram Seahawks forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think?
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  Speaker 10: So you got a loss tonight, You got a Seahawk
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 10: loss tonight. But if they win the game, or do
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  Speaker 10: you think they win the division?
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  Speaker 1: For sure?
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  Speaker 11: No?
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  Speaker 2: Not for sure? Not for sure? Okay, all right?
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  Speaker 10: And I think the Rams are a little bit of
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 10: the better team just because their offense is so much
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 10: better than Seattle's offense. I think that, you know, we
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 10: need to see more from the offense. And so if
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 10: they win tonight, hey maybe we we reassessed. But I
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 10: kind of want to see the offense do better.
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  Speaker 1: What a great time of the year from Mike Sandy
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: got this great Thursday night game is Saturday Football starts
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: this week. I mean, you're just living large right now.
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  Speaker 2: Saturday Football. Love it.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 10: You got Joel to hang out with, Joel to hang
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 10: out with. Yeah, it's great having an eighty pound dog,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 10: ninety pound dog just jump up on you, like when
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 10: you're on the couch and just knock your glasses off
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 10: because he thinks he's a lapdog. It was really fun.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: Bucky and I are going to introduce the victory pipe.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah here this week right now, something that you're in
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of people have done the victory cigar, but
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: Bucky and I are sold on the victory pipe idea.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 10: I've never been a smoker, but I've always loved the
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 10: smell of pipe smoke.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like my dad had a pipe.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 10: You know, and my dad was like when when I
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 10: was born, like he was trying to quit smoking, but
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 10: then we'd catch him like sneaking, you know, you like
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 10: have his little stash on the side. But like, a
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 10: pipe to me always smelled a great like cigarettes smell
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 10: like crap. After the first puff. The first puff is
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 10: stice and sweet smelling, but then they smell crap. Yeah,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 10: and to me the pipe, Yeah, if I was to
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 10: smoke anything, yeah, like I don't even think of cigar smells.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 10: I think scar smells bad too. Pipe kind of smells
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 10: like it's like a special kind of tea or something
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 10: ataw or something. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: So maybe I'll just have.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 10: Ask people to smoke pipes around me. You know, I
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 10: kind of like to smoke. I don't actually want to
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 10: do that.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're still were at the beginning stages
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: of this club.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll let you know.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: We'll send you a newsletter, all right, Mike, enjoy the
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: game tonight, Thanks as always, and can't wait to talk.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: To you next week.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 10: Sounds good man, I always love it, all right.
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