Latest / Foul Territory / Lance Broz talks Skenes new style, Steele loss + Mets/Severino rejection price, A's roster shuffle
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, you can't say that you're an analytic guy. You
- 0:02Speaker 1: can't say that you gotta go analytics. You can't say wait, wait,
- 0:06Speaker 1: there's a team thing and a perpon no way, I
- 0:08Speaker 1: thought the guy.
- 0:15Speaker 2: All Right, we're back with Lance Brazdowski. You can check
- 0:17Speaker 2: out his YouTube channel. You can hear him and watch
- 0:19Speaker 2: him on Marquee. We'll talk cubs in a little bit.
- 0:22Speaker 2: But Lance, great to have you on, man, I'm excited
- 0:24Speaker 2: to chat more this evening on playback. We'll do the
- 0:27Speaker 2: all cast. Hopefully people will follow along. It's totally free
- 0:30Speaker 2: to sign up and watch. But are you ready for
- 0:32Speaker 2: a Paul Skiing start? We picked this game weeks ago,
- 0:34Speaker 2: so we just got lucky. We hit the lottery tonight.
- 0:37Speaker 3: Yeah. When you guys asked me to do this, I
- 0:39Speaker 3: was looking and I was like, oh, there's a chance
- 0:40Speaker 3: Skeens lines up here, which makes this far more interesting.
- 0:43Speaker 3: So I'm very happy about that. It's gonna be a
- 0:44Speaker 3: lot of fun.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, So give me your take. You're just big
- 0:48Speaker 2: picture take on Paul Skeens and his progression and how
- 0:50Speaker 2: he looks this year compared to last year.
- 0:53Speaker 3: Yeah, the big thing. You're here, and I know a
- 0:54Speaker 3: lot of other people who pointed this out, but he's
- 0:56Speaker 3: thrown from a lower slot, so he slots down about
- 0:58Speaker 3: like six seven degrees, which is pretty considerable for a pitcher.
- 1:01Speaker 3: And the big thing that jumps out to me is
- 1:03Speaker 3: he's ripping a ton of that sinker splinker thing. He
- 1:06Speaker 3: jumped that usage first or second pitch of an AB
- 1:09Speaker 3: up to fifty two percent I think, relative to like
- 1:12Speaker 3: thirty five percent last year. That's a pretty considerable gap.
- 1:15Speaker 3: I know he talked a little about in spring training
- 1:17Speaker 3: about wanting to pitch like more innings go deeper into games,
- 1:20Speaker 3: and I wonder whether the slot drop that pitch looking
- 1:23Speaker 3: a bit better. Him just trying to generate contact early
- 1:26Speaker 3: incount has really forced him into that, Hey, try to
- 1:28Speaker 3: lift this pitch. It's really hard to lift. And as
- 1:30Speaker 3: a result of that, you know, maybe we see him
- 1:32Speaker 3: push more consistently into like seventh eighth inning, but I
- 1:36Speaker 3: don't know, Like I'm curious to see whether there's a
- 1:38Speaker 3: shift back to more strikeouts eventually as this season goes on.
- 1:41Speaker 3: That's an interesting balance to strike as a pitcher. We're
- 1:43Speaker 3: seeing like Hunter Green really light the world on fire
- 1:46Speaker 3: right now. Schemes may log two hundred and twenty innings,
- 1:49Speaker 3: Like I'd be awesome to see that. He's kind of
- 1:51Speaker 3: blending some of the New school in the old school,
- 1:53Speaker 3: which I think is great.
- 1:55Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think to stay on Schens here, he
- 1:57Speaker 4: has the mobility to move the ball wherever he with
- 2:00Speaker 4: each and every pitch, and with that overpowering fastball. Like
- 2:04Speaker 4: you talk about all these pitches, what is that one
- 2:06Speaker 4: pitch right now that you think is getting most guys
- 2:09Speaker 4: out on? Is it the splinker or is it that
- 2:11Speaker 4: nasty running fastball?
- 2:13Speaker 3: I think so. The thing I remember seeing I think
- 2:15Speaker 3: this is still applicable this year too. Is like a
- 2:18Speaker 3: lot of guys pitch backwards. You'll hear that a lot
- 2:20Speaker 3: on a broadcast. But he had some of the largest
- 2:23Speaker 3: like increase in fastball usages. He progressed into deep count
- 2:27Speaker 3: situations relative to like anybody in the league. So if
- 2:29Speaker 3: you're looking for a poster boy of pitching backwards last year,
- 2:32Speaker 3: it was Paul Skenes, and I think he's still doing
- 2:35Speaker 3: that this year. But again, I do think that splinker
- 2:37Speaker 3: is the really the pitch. It just has so much drop,
- 2:40Speaker 3: he throws it so hard. It's I imagine like for
- 2:43Speaker 3: a hit or time. It's probably like impossible to lift
- 2:45Speaker 3: that pitch. It's just I don't understand, like it's a
- 2:47Speaker 3: Logan Web style thing where it's like you gotta pray
- 2:50Speaker 3: that he gives it up in the zone a little
- 2:52Speaker 3: and even then you're probably still hitting it, you know,
- 2:53Speaker 3: one hundred and five right into the dirt. And he's
- 2:55Speaker 3: happy to take that pretty much every single time.
- 3:00Speaker 1: A flip and philosophy though from him to try to
- 3:02Speaker 1: go deeper into games because normally, if you if you
- 3:04Speaker 1: get ground balls, you don't get as many strikeouts, you
- 3:07Speaker 1: can go deeper into games. So do you think that's
- 3:08Speaker 1: maybe the difference in this little change that he has.
- 3:13Speaker 3: I think it is. I think maybe his goal this
- 3:15Speaker 3: year is to throw like two hundred plus as opposed
- 3:17Speaker 3: to striking out thirty five percent of the guys that
- 3:19Speaker 3: he sees. You know, I don't mind it. I mean,
- 3:22Speaker 3: I think the Pirates need him for as many innings
- 3:24Speaker 3: as possible given the tumultuous bullpen they had they've had
- 3:28Speaker 3: each of the last two seasons that he can't seem
- 3:30Speaker 3: to figure that out. So if he can give you
- 3:31Speaker 3: seven or eight every time he froze even if maybe
- 3:35Speaker 3: for him is a picture, it's more optimal from the
- 3:37Speaker 3: data standpoint to chase the strikeouts. If you think of
- 3:40Speaker 3: the team context of him, I'd want him throw in
- 3:42Speaker 3: the eighth inning as opposed to whoever their setup man is.
- 3:45Speaker 1: Hey, you can't say that you're an analytic guy. You
- 3:48Speaker 1: can't say that you gotta go analytics. You can't say wait,
- 3:51Speaker 1: there's wait, there's a team thing and a person. No
- 3:53Speaker 1: way I thought these guys.
- 3:56Speaker 3: I said, we make the optimal decision with the robots,
- 4:01Speaker 3: and then you know, we we massage it a little bit.
- 4:02Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta have some balance, and.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Then the players got to try to do the perfect
- 4:06Speaker 1: time perfect all the time. But have the Cardinals. Have
- 4:09Speaker 1: the Cardinals figured out schemes? They seem to hit him
- 4:12Speaker 1: pretty good every time. It was like they had Kershaw's
- 4:14Speaker 1: number back in the day. Now do they have schemes number?
- 4:16Speaker 1: They're the one team that seems to do okay against them.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Isn't
- 4:23Speaker 3: that the saying? That's where I'm gonna go on.
- 4:24Speaker 5: Now there you go.
- 4:28Speaker 1: As a cup he works with the Cubs. You can't
- 4:30Speaker 1: say anything nice.
- 4:33Speaker 5: Well, that's fine.
- 4:34Speaker 2: We can go to the Cubs, So Lance, are you
- 4:36Speaker 2: buying what they're selling on offense right now? And of
- 4:40Speaker 2: course we have to get your thoughts on this justin
- 4:42Speaker 2: Steel injury and how it affects the rotation.
- 4:44Speaker 5: Let's go there first.
- 4:45Speaker 2: What did you think of the injury and how it
- 4:46Speaker 2: affects the Cubs the rest of the year here and
- 4:48Speaker 2: the rotation?
- 4:49Speaker 5: Can they hold up?
- 4:51Speaker 3: It's a brutal injury. Yeah, I mean, prior to the
- 4:53Speaker 3: season they had two pitchers projected as above average starters
- 4:55Speaker 3: and it was him and showeda and now you're down
- 4:57Speaker 3: to one. So I mean, I think this team is good.
- 5:00Speaker 3: I think offensively they're fantastic. But at the beginning of
- 5:03Speaker 3: the season, and the concern was always okay, you get
- 5:05Speaker 3: this team down the stretch into September, you start thinking
- 5:08Speaker 3: about playoff situations, like who are you rolling out there?
- 5:11Speaker 3: As starting pitchers. We constantly see like those big starting pitchers,
- 5:14Speaker 3: those teams with multiple starters, the Dodgers' ability to roll
- 5:17Speaker 3: Glass now to Yamamoto, et cetera. Those teams are the
- 5:20Speaker 3: ones that are most intimidating. The Phillies do a great
- 5:22Speaker 3: job and they have so much rotation depth, and then
- 5:24Speaker 3: they got Jazusaltar, who looks fantastic. You match from a
- 5:27Speaker 3: pure pitching standpoint, staff standpoint, the Cubs right now up
- 5:30Speaker 3: with other teams, I struggle to see how they're going
- 5:33Speaker 3: to compete in that capacity. Like I think Colin Ray
- 5:35Speaker 3: is kind of a fun addition, but he's limited in innings.
- 5:38Speaker 3: Matt Boyd hasn't thrown one hundred and twenty plus in
- 5:40Speaker 3: what five or six years. Brad Keller's are really fun
- 5:43Speaker 3: reclamation project. So they have these puzzle pieces that I
- 5:46Speaker 3: think for now can bridge them to say playoff or
- 5:49Speaker 3: excuse me, all star break right around that area. But
- 5:52Speaker 3: I think this team's gonna have a lot of pressure
- 5:53Speaker 3: come to deadline to make a move and add some
- 5:55Speaker 3: kind of pitcher that you're a little more confident in.
- 6:00Speaker 6: AJ.
- 6:00Speaker 2: It is time for people to get some new clubs,
- 6:02Speaker 2: and to do that, they need to go to their
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- 6:05Speaker 1: Right, No doubt, I was there today, I've been there before.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Last time I was there, they gave me this killer
- 6:11Speaker 1: gap edge. Look at that sweet spot, Scott, it is
- 6:13Speaker 1: worn out. That is right in the sweet spot right there.
- 6:15Speaker 1: So I went and got new clubs today, new irons.
- 6:18Speaker 1: But more importantly, I got this bad boy. I got
- 6:20Speaker 1: me a new putter. This is my old putter. It's
- 6:21Speaker 1: on order. Yes, that's my putter cover PXG Mustang putter.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Now I'm going to the Allen putter. They talked me
- 6:26Speaker 1: into it because I was draining some putts today. Bob,
- 6:29Speaker 1: the guy who helped me out, he helped me with
- 6:31Speaker 1: my irons. He got them teed up perfectly. But then
- 6:34Speaker 1: we went to the putting green. I was draining them
- 6:35Speaker 1: putts because that's the most important part of golf.
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- 7:00Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, okay, that's interesting to hear from a Cub fan.
- 7:04Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this. The Cub offense. The Cub
- 7:06Speaker 1: offense now they lead the league and run differential Scott
- 7:10Speaker 1: says it's the fakest stat of all time. Which one
- 7:13Speaker 1: is it? Are they the best team of all time
- 7:15Speaker 1: or are they the fakest team of all time.
- 7:18Speaker 3: So there's a producer here. His name is Christopher has
- 7:21Speaker 3: Nacci at Marquis. He's a good friend and he's a
- 7:23Speaker 3: huge data nerd. We have come to the agreement that
- 7:25Speaker 3: the way to do run differential is that when you
- 7:28Speaker 3: win a game by more than five runs in excess
- 7:30Speaker 3: of the five, those don't count towards your run differential
- 7:33Speaker 3: because to me, like when you blow a team out
- 7:35Speaker 3: sixteen plus at some point there you have Miguel Ross
- 7:38Speaker 3: throwing two innings, like that's just artificially inflating your run differential.
- 7:42Speaker 3: I just want to know, like when you get above
- 7:44Speaker 3: that five margin, how good you are? So throw out
- 7:46Speaker 3: If you're winning eight nothing, nine, ten to nothing, I
- 7:48Speaker 3: don't think that indicates too much of like the raw
- 7:50Speaker 3: skill of a given team. And a lot of the
- 7:52Speaker 3: time on the data side, that's what we're trying to
- 7:53Speaker 3: get into. It's like we're looking at process, We're looking
- 7:55Speaker 3: at underlying things that we can allow ourselves to be
- 7:57Speaker 3: a little bit more confident in predicting players going forward,
- 8:00Speaker 3: and uh yeah, maybe that's a hot take here. It's
- 8:02Speaker 3: it's a little bit against what a lot of people
- 8:03Speaker 3: look at from like the what you want to nerd
- 8:05Speaker 3: out and say Pythagorea and win where it's like, oh,
- 8:07Speaker 3: if this team's plus twenty four runs, then they should
- 8:10Speaker 3: be three games over five hundred or whatever it is.
- 8:12Speaker 3: But I mean, you're with in sixteen nothing, Like what's
- 8:15Speaker 3: the difference between sixteen nothing and nine nothing? Especially when
- 8:18Speaker 3: Mickey Rojas is throwing two innings.
- 8:20Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you?
- 8:21Speaker 6: Seven runs?
- 8:22Speaker 3: Seven runs. Fine, I'm happy to adjust it up.
- 8:28Speaker 1: If Todd and I drove in those seven we go
- 8:30Speaker 1: to arbitration, Todd, those seven runs count, don't they Oh
- 8:33Speaker 1: yeah they don't care.
- 8:35Speaker 5: Yeah they count.
- 8:36Speaker 2: But when we're evaluating teams, Lance, I am totally with you.
- 8:39Speaker 2: I haven't heard about that, but I like that much
- 8:41Speaker 2: more right, because you are trying to get indicators to
- 8:43Speaker 2: see our teams getting you know, cruise control wins or
- 8:46Speaker 2: are they constantly sweating out dubs? And yes, one run
- 8:49Speaker 2: record can fluctuate, although I do like one run record
- 8:52Speaker 2: and just winning close games.
- 8:53Speaker 5: I mean, I do think better bullpens can play to that.
- 8:56Speaker 2: But it is certainly a much better way to slice it. Lance,
- 8:58Speaker 2: I think that run differentiallf just gets very lazy when
- 9:02Speaker 2: we look at, you know, teams that put together, maybe
- 9:05Speaker 2: especially early in a season, a couple blowout wins and
- 9:07Speaker 2: then we're like, oh good, you know they beat the
- 9:09Speaker 2: Pirates seventeen to two. Then another time they beat him
- 9:12Speaker 2: fifteen to five, and all of a sudden it gets emplayed.
- 9:15Speaker 2: So anyway, on the offensive side, what do you think
- 9:17Speaker 2: of the Cubs offense?
- 9:18Speaker 1: Right?
- 9:18Speaker 2: You watch almost every game. Do you think it's a
- 9:20Speaker 2: much better offense this year? And it's the reason primarily
- 9:23Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker? Or is there more?
- 9:25Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 9:25Speaker 3: I think the reason is primarily Kyle Tucker. It's funny.
- 9:28Speaker 3: I feel like I don't know what happens off season, AJ,
- 9:29Speaker 3: but I feel like I've become a lot more turncode
- 9:31Speaker 3: here and I'm considering the other angles. But offseason, the
- 9:34Speaker 3: big angle was Okay, they need a star in that lineup,
- 9:36Speaker 3: and I was like, I mean, I get it, but
- 9:39Speaker 3: how much of a difference is that actually going to make?
- 9:40Speaker 3: And then you watch Kyle Tucker for everybody games they
- 9:43Speaker 3: play like fifteen games or so, and I mean this
- 9:45Speaker 3: guy's a bes are insane, Like he barrels everything that
- 9:49Speaker 3: he hits. He hits everything hard, really good swing decisions,
- 9:52Speaker 3: like he commands the zone's It's one of those things
- 9:54Speaker 3: where it just entirely changes that lineup from my perspective
- 9:57Speaker 3: in terms of who's hitting around him. That exceptional player,
- 10:01Speaker 3: and I mean there's they're gonna have a lot of
- 10:02Speaker 3: pressure on them, I think coming this season too or
- 10:05Speaker 3: off season. Excuse me to extend him and keep him
- 10:07Speaker 3: in Chicago long term?
- 10:09Speaker 1: Can they do it? Can they do it?
- 10:12Speaker 4: Not?
- 10:12Speaker 1: Can they? Because we know they will they do it? Oh?
- 10:18Speaker 5: Lance, you got us? Oh I meant you a right here.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Hi, I am Lance. I'm gonna say that they're going
- 10:28Speaker 1: to be able to even though Yeah, by the way,
- 10:32Speaker 1: I did have a question. I didn't really want to
- 10:34Speaker 1: ask him about Mattchaut because he was their super hyph rookie.
- 10:37Speaker 1: He's got off to a bad start. I want to
- 10:39Speaker 1: know what he sees because he watches every game. He's
- 10:42Speaker 1: got a real funky Todd Have you seen his swing.
- 10:44Speaker 1: He's got a real funky swing.
- 10:45Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 10:46Speaker 1: He set up like I don't know, you know, I
- 10:49Speaker 1: don't even know how to.
- 10:49Speaker 4: Call that I don't know what its strange, right, it's
- 10:55Speaker 4: the big high light kicker.
- 10:56Speaker 6: We talking about the same guy too.
- 10:57Speaker 1: Yeah, he's super closed off and he goes Hi Lake.
- 11:00Speaker 4: He's got the rent Tory, I call it, but with
- 11:02Speaker 4: the monster like kick.
- 11:04Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 11:05Speaker 4: I don't know, man, your timing's got to be really
- 11:07Speaker 4: perfect for that to work.
- 11:09Speaker 6: But he seems to have done a really good job
- 11:11Speaker 6: with it. Yeah. Uh well no, I mean.
- 11:14Speaker 5: To this point, right, he's gotten to this point. He's
- 11:16Speaker 5: gotten to this.
- 11:16Speaker 1: Point in the mighty leagues, he was fine.
- 11:19Speaker 5: Yeah. Do you do you think that he might have
- 11:22Speaker 5: to change that up in the bigs.
- 11:25Speaker 1: It's hard to hit in the big league, Scott.
- 11:28Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
- 11:29Speaker 1: It's hard, man, and the more moving parts you have,
- 11:32Speaker 1: the harder it is. That's why you see the guys
- 11:34Speaker 1: that are the best are super simple, super small, you know.
- 11:38Speaker 1: I mean, it's there's a reason why guys like Barry Bonds.
- 11:41Speaker 1: I hate to always go back to him, but like,
- 11:42Speaker 1: I mean, he was very simple. He was very short,
- 11:44Speaker 1: boom direct right. The guys that are the shortest in
- 11:47Speaker 1: the directest, you know, Albert Pools was from here to here, right,
- 11:51Speaker 1: It's it's when you have a lot of moving parts,
- 11:53Speaker 1: everything has has to sink up properly. I think it's
- 11:56Speaker 1: kind of what Tyler Glasnall was talking to talking about
- 11:58Speaker 1: when he was talking about, you know, get the ball
- 12:00Speaker 1: like you're shooting three pointers, just get it and shoot.
- 12:02Speaker 1: He's what six', Eight he's got a lot of moving
- 12:04Speaker 1: parts that have to. Align when he gets that, feeling
- 12:06Speaker 1: he just wants the ball and to go, again to go,
- 12:08Speaker 1: again to go. Again. Right, so, yeah he's got a
- 12:10Speaker 1: lot of things going, on you got. It it's really
- 12:12Speaker 1: hard to sink them all.
- 12:13Speaker 5: UP i know.
- 12:14Speaker 2: That whenever you, see, oh guys having a, breakout you
- 12:17Speaker 2: already fixed. Something you're never hearing, like oh he got much,
- 12:19Speaker 2: longer you, know you always hear the same kind of few. Notes,
- 12:23Speaker 2: right he got more compact and shorter to the, ball
- 12:25Speaker 2: the whole. Deal lanta hearing.
- 12:26Speaker 3: Us, now, yes, sir sorry about that out?
- 12:29Speaker 6: Right all?
- 12:30Speaker 2: Right so we wanted to Get matt saw, THOUGHTS, aj
- 12:32Speaker 2: if you want to tee it.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Up, NO i was just Asking matt y'aw came up
- 12:36Speaker 1: with all the hype in the. World he was great
- 12:38Speaker 1: in the minor leagues And Todd now we're just talking
- 12:39Speaker 1: about he's got a funky. Stance do you think that
- 12:41Speaker 1: he'll be able to have the success he had in
- 12:43Speaker 1: the minor leagues because he's got so much movement with his,
- 12:46Speaker 1: hands with the way he stands his leg, kick there's
- 12:48Speaker 1: a lot of things that have to be timed. Up
- 12:50Speaker 1: can he can he figure this out for The cubs
- 12:52Speaker 1: and be a weapon for?
- 12:53Speaker 3: Him he, can BUT i do think it's gonna require some.
- 12:57Speaker 3: TINKERING i agree with. You it's a weird. Swing it's
- 12:59Speaker 3: probably one of the weirdest swings in. Baseball they had
- 13:01Speaker 3: like an overhead kind of bird's eye view of home
- 13:03Speaker 3: yesterday on The Sunday Night baseball, broadcast and you could,
- 13:05Speaker 3: see like when he strides that front leg almost like
- 13:08Speaker 3: comes over the plate and then drifts a little. Bit
- 13:10Speaker 3: he lands like super. Close AND i remember talking to
- 13:12Speaker 3: him in spring training a year ago, actually AND i
- 13:15Speaker 3: we were talking through his swing AND i was, like,
- 13:16Speaker 3: man you set up really, closed and he'd, LIKE i
- 13:18Speaker 3: don't THINK i. Do and THEN i like see him
- 13:19Speaker 3: And i'm, like, dude you're super, Closed like you, know
- 13:22Speaker 3: LIKE I Adrian, beltray, like there aren't a lot of
- 13:24Speaker 3: guys that stand that close in the modern, GAME i
- 13:27Speaker 3: feel like the stances as a whole become slightly, open
- 13:29Speaker 3: or guys start open in, step maybe more. Neutral so
- 13:32Speaker 3: it's gonna require some. Tinkering like he got chewed up
- 13:34Speaker 3: by breaking balls At TRIPLE a last. Year teams are
- 13:38Speaker 3: not throwing him a lot of. Fastball he's a really
- 13:39Speaker 3: good fastball. Hitter it's kind of guy like that inside
- 13:41Speaker 3: out swing going to right. FIELD i know a guy
- 13:43Speaker 3: Like James wood does, this and we'll see him on
- 13:45Speaker 3: the playback stream. Tonight he's super in. Out but woods
- 13:48Speaker 3: raw backspeed is like insane such that that approach can.
- 13:50Speaker 3: WORK i wouldn't Say i'm like concerned about the long
- 13:53Speaker 3: term picture Of Matt, shaw but you know it's he's
- 13:56Speaker 3: gonna have to make some. Adjustments i'm not sure if
- 13:58Speaker 3: it's toning down the lake. Kick you guys definitely had
- 14:00Speaker 3: more thoughts, THERE i, Imagine BUT i don't think like
- 14:03Speaker 3: the current version Of shaw's the one that in a
- 14:06Speaker 3: year or two's, time you're, going, yeah he's a great
- 14:08Speaker 3: piece of the, team good, defender good back to, ball et.
- 14:10Speaker 3: Cetera there's something that's going to break here that's going
- 14:12Speaker 3: to allow him to actualize that.
- 14:14Speaker 2: Upside all, Right, LANCE i want to get some other
- 14:18Speaker 2: thoughts on pitching around the. League obviously you're watching and
- 14:21Speaker 2: you're documenting changes for, pitchers anything that you've pointed out,
- 14:24Speaker 2: recently whether it's a pitch mix change that you're really
- 14:27Speaker 2: buying for a pitcher to take off the rest of the.
- 14:29Speaker 2: YEAR i, mean this question always applies to many different,
- 14:32Speaker 2: fans including ones that even play fantasy, Baseball, like what
- 14:35Speaker 2: do you like so far in the first few weeks
- 14:36Speaker 2: that you think has stickiness to?
- 14:38Speaker 3: It, YEAH i, Mean Hunter green's an interesting. One he
- 14:41Speaker 3: started last year in a very similar situation where we
- 14:44Speaker 3: saw the fastballs jump and he added a little vertical,
- 14:46Speaker 3: break it was, harder et. Cetera this, season what we're
- 14:48Speaker 3: seeing is he's just throwing it more and throwing it
- 14:51Speaker 3: directly over the plate and it's blowing through. Hitters and,
- 14:53Speaker 3: like he's one of the more fascinating guys to, me
- 14:56Speaker 3: because there aren't a lot of guys in the LEAGUE
- 14:57Speaker 3: i think that could basically throw two pitches like eighty
- 15:00Speaker 3: five ninety percent of the, time especially from the right,
- 15:02Speaker 3: side the right handed, Pitcher, LIKE i feel like a
- 15:04Speaker 3: lot of those, times a lot of the. Time you
- 15:06Speaker 3: get that from. LEFTIES i think as showed Y monaga
- 15:07Speaker 3: on The, cubs and there's probably other names there. Too
- 15:09Speaker 3: you could kind of go like fastball, change fastball split
- 15:12Speaker 3: and get through a lineup a couple of. Times green
- 15:14Speaker 3: is doing it with fastball. Slider. BASICALLY i know he's
- 15:16Speaker 3: got the splitter in his back, pocket but he doesn't
- 15:18Speaker 3: use that a. Ton the other One i'll point OUT
- 15:20Speaker 3: i just wrote. About actually my substack Is Joe. Boyle
- 15:22Speaker 3: he's got this like crazy sinker, thing AND i know
- 15:24Speaker 3: the guy's never had. Command he's with The. Athletics last
- 15:27Speaker 3: year he was throwing like a bunch of breaking, balls
- 15:29Speaker 3: but it seems like The rays cleaned up some of the.
- 15:31Speaker 3: Mechanics he's really like fastball shorter slider and this weird
- 15:34Speaker 3: sinker splitter. Thing it's a wacky pitch like he's thrown
- 15:38Speaker 3: at ninety. Three he's got a high. Slot it dives a.
- 15:41Speaker 3: Ton i'm not necessarily sure if he's gonna be like
- 15:44Speaker 3: a world beater on the command side of, things BUT i,
- 15:47Speaker 3: mean The rays are a factory in terms of being
- 15:49Speaker 3: able to turn out these, pitchers and so, FAR i
- 15:51Speaker 3: Mean i'm pretty encouraged by What i've seen From Joe.
- 15:53Speaker 5: Boyle, yeah you know how it. WORKS i mean it still.
- 15:56Speaker 2: Applies you get a CALL i don't think any but
- 15:58Speaker 2: still about a, pitcher and you're, like, mm the rays won.
- 16:02Speaker 2: Him hold, On actually we're gonna keep.
- 16:03Speaker 1: Him we're gonna we gotta name, it name the Pitch,
- 16:05Speaker 1: lance we gotta name The doyle. Pitch WHAT i mean
- 16:08Speaker 1: the splinker the see.
- 16:13Speaker 3: His is more of like a true split. GRIP i showed.
- 16:15Speaker 3: This i'm gonna ACTUALLY i had to tweak it up
- 16:17Speaker 3: BEFORE i hopped on, here but it's it looks like
- 16:19Speaker 3: a true splitter to, Me like if you look at
- 16:21Speaker 3: schemes a, splinker that looks a little more like a true.
- 16:23Speaker 3: Sinker he's kind OF i don't have a ball near,
- 16:25Speaker 3: me but he's like right on the inside of the.
- 16:27Speaker 3: Horseshoe it's a weird. Spot but if you look at,
- 16:29Speaker 3: boils it's it just looks like a. Splitter So i'm
- 16:31Speaker 3: not entirely sure how he's able to pick up that
- 16:33Speaker 3: drop or what he's, doing how his body moves through
- 16:36Speaker 3: that release to be able to get that amount of
- 16:37Speaker 3: movement AT vlo and. Stuff but it's really. Impressive kudos
- 16:41Speaker 3: to him or The, rays and not entirely sure how
- 16:43Speaker 3: he came up with the, pitch but it's, sick sinky.
- 16:46Speaker 6: Splitter i'm fine with.
- 16:49Speaker 3: It we're always making a new stuff on the data.
- 16:51Speaker 2: Side, yeah, yeah, no, NO i, MEAN i don't know
- 16:54Speaker 2: what how they, feel But i'm a marketing, guy So
- 16:57Speaker 2: i'm all for naming a variety of.
- 16:59Speaker 5: Pitches.
- 16:59Speaker 2: Right it's like you talk to a kid and you're, like, oh,
- 17:01Speaker 2: CODE i sing. In they're like ghost fork. Boom we
- 17:04Speaker 2: need more of. That, Nope so just throwing it out. There, Hey,
- 17:06Speaker 2: Lance we're gonna do a lot more of this. Later
- 17:08Speaker 2: so rest. Up we'll talk to you on the.
- 17:10Speaker 3: Game all, Right thanks for having the guys take.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Care all, right let's move on to the. Athletics so
- 17:16Speaker 2: a couple things from the. Weekend first of, All Luis,
- 17:19Speaker 2: severino who signed With, sacramento said he told The mets
- 17:23Speaker 2: he was willing to accept less for a return than
- 17:27Speaker 2: the three year deal he got from The a's worth
- 17:29Speaker 2: sixty seven million, dollars and he actually gave the number.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Out he was willing to accept two, years forty million.
- 17:36Speaker 2: Dollars The mets quote had other plans there's a lot
- 17:41Speaker 2: to slice up here. Too number, one do you think
- 17:44Speaker 2: he should have done?
- 17:45Speaker 6: That?
- 17:45Speaker 2: Righty do you think a player should take twenty seven
- 17:48Speaker 2: million dollars less to.
- 17:50Speaker 5: Sign with The mets because he feels comfortable? There and
- 17:52Speaker 5: should The mets have taken him up on?
- 17:54Speaker 4: That they should have most definitely they should. Have over
- 17:57Speaker 4: sixty he said they wanted two for THIRTY i love
- 18:00Speaker 4: everything for.
- 18:01Speaker 5: Forty, no but he.
- 18:02Speaker 4: Came out and said that The mets said they would
- 18:04Speaker 4: they would do two for thirty.
- 18:05Speaker 5: Four, oh that's what he, Said that's what He so
- 18:07Speaker 5: they were six.
- 18:07Speaker 6: Apart they were six million. DOLLARS i watched the whole.
- 18:10Speaker 5: Thing, wait and do you know? Who they gave that money?
- 18:12Speaker 6: To Frankie montass two years thirty, four that's what they.
- 18:15Speaker 6: Say he said in the.
- 18:16Speaker 4: Interview they wanted to give me A Frankie montass, deal
- 18:20Speaker 4: and he said. No AND i think this would all
- 18:24Speaker 4: be mute if he didn't have a three, year sixty
- 18:26Speaker 4: seven million dollar, contract you know WHAT i?
- 18:27Speaker 6: Mean so he had. That you, KNOW i just don't understand.
- 18:31Speaker 4: It and you, know as a as a, fan you're watching, him,
- 18:34Speaker 4: like but, really over six million? DOLLARS i, mean but
- 18:38Speaker 4: he had sixty seven million in the back. Pocket so,
- 18:41Speaker 4: yeah he's taking twenty, million twenty seven million dollars off
- 18:44Speaker 4: of a. Contract this is, business one oh. One you
- 18:46Speaker 4: got a nickel and dime as much as you. Can
- 18:48Speaker 4: and guess what he wanted forty, million it's six million dollars.
- 18:51Speaker 4: MORE i THINK i Think coan made a mistake. Here
- 18:53Speaker 4: if you want the, truth he pitched well last year
- 18:55Speaker 4: they fixed his his. Tips you, know well he was
- 18:59Speaker 4: leaking when he was. Pitched whatever it was with his
- 19:01Speaker 4: breathing that everybody could tell what he was. Throwing and you,
- 19:06Speaker 4: KNOW i love this because you don't hear this too
- 19:08Speaker 4: often from, players but you, know to come out and
- 19:11Speaker 4: say that and kind of get it off your chest
- 19:13Speaker 4: a little, bit you, know proud of him for doing.
- 19:15Speaker 4: That but, yeah it, was, uh we were all taking
- 19:17Speaker 4: back a little bit on.
- 19:18Speaker 1: THAT i love. This we want. Honesty this is what
- 19:22Speaker 1: we always, ask Don't we always ask, Players, hey who
- 19:24Speaker 1: else offered? You what did they give? You and players
- 19:27Speaker 1: LIKE i don't really want to talk about. It good for.
- 19:28Speaker 1: You Luis, savarino. Awesome you want to say you want
- 19:31Speaker 1: to throw The mets straight under the. Bus you just did.
- 19:33Speaker 1: It beep, peep peep, peep and it's backing up peep.
- 19:36Speaker 1: Peep it went over him and NOW i was backing
- 19:38Speaker 1: the back up. AGAIN i love? This are you kidding?
- 19:39Speaker 3: Me this is?
- 19:40Speaker 1: Awesome tell, people why is it such a secret who
- 19:43Speaker 1: offered you and what they offered? You why are we
- 19:45Speaker 1: keeping it? Down you know? What he was happy In New.
- 19:47Speaker 1: York he wanted to go back for. Less he ended
- 19:48Speaker 1: up getting more In. Sacramento, yes or The sacramento As
- 19:51Speaker 1: i'll say, It but it's. AWESOME i think this is.
- 19:54Speaker 1: GREAT i think it's good for the. Game he lets
- 19:56Speaker 1: other people know what they're. Thinking and you know everyone that, says,
- 19:58Speaker 1: oh The mets are you, know spending all this, money
- 20:00Speaker 1: spend all this money where they're trying to be a
- 20:02Speaker 1: little thrifty on certain. Guys for a guy that wanted
- 20:04Speaker 1: to come, back six million dollars isn't a lot for
- 20:07Speaker 1: a two year, Deal so good on, You. Severino and,
- 20:10Speaker 1: yeah Like todd, said this doesn't look great on The
- 20:12Speaker 1: mets because they could have used. Him he was healthy
- 20:14Speaker 1: for him and he pitched well for, him SO i don't,
- 20:17Speaker 1: know but he got his, money so even better for.
- 20:19Speaker 4: You, yeah, yeah AND i, think you, know to go
- 20:21Speaker 4: on your, point you know why players don't do it
- 20:23Speaker 4: BECAUSE i think most of them they try and whether
- 20:26Speaker 4: they're whatever deal they had and whoever they talk, to
- 20:28Speaker 4: they're hoping that they don't get black ball by other.
- 20:30Speaker 6: Teams like this guy's got the.
- 20:32Speaker 4: Voice we don't want him on there because guess what
- 20:34Speaker 4: he's gonna blurt out our. BUSINESS i think that's probably
- 20:36Speaker 4: the only. Reason BUT i Think severino understands this is
- 20:39Speaker 4: gonna be his biggest contract and unless all of a
- 20:43Speaker 4: sudden he comes out and you, know turns Into Nolan
- 20:45Speaker 4: ryan or whatever it.
- 20:46Speaker 6: Is but, yes he's no.
- 20:48Speaker 5: Idiot good for, him, yeah and for The.
- 20:51Speaker 2: Mets so, basically they were, like we got thirty four
- 20:54Speaker 2: mil if you if you take, that we'll take.
- 20:56Speaker 5: You otherwise we're giving it To.
- 20:57Speaker 4: Montas see, no, no, no, yeah they want that what
- 21:01Speaker 4: they Gave montoss.
- 21:01Speaker 6: To they, said we're going to give you The montas.
- 21:03Speaker 6: Deal that's. It takeer to leave it from what he.
- 21:06Speaker 2: Was, Well i'm sorry they don't have the same track
- 21:08Speaker 2: record over the past. Year sorry about, it aj to.
- 21:11Speaker 2: ME i, mean obviously we were hard on them when
- 21:13Speaker 2: they did that. Deal and it has an opt out
- 21:15Speaker 2: after your, one which is not going to take now
- 21:17Speaker 2: because he's. Hurt but to, me those pitchers are not
- 21:19Speaker 2: in the same category right. Now they might be for
- 21:22Speaker 2: them based ON i don't, know some peripheral numbers they're looking,
- 21:25Speaker 2: at but to, me they're not in the same.
- 21:27Speaker 8: Category, Listen Luisa reno pitched In New york last, year pitched,
- 21:34Speaker 8: well so they know he can handle it, right pitch
- 21:37Speaker 8: huge playoff games for.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Him Frankie montoss came over to The yankees and this
- 21:41Speaker 1: is sad AND i hate saying, this but he didn't.
- 21:43Speaker 1: Pitch he was, hurt so you don't know how he's
- 21:46Speaker 1: going to react to being In New york and now
- 21:48Speaker 1: he's hurt, again and that's a. Shame but you had
- 21:50Speaker 1: a proven track record guy that was going to sign
- 21:53Speaker 1: a deal for less, money and you, say, NO i don't, know,
- 21:57Speaker 1: man that's that's just not the WAY i would want
- 21:59Speaker 1: to run an. Organization but, again mets, money they can
- 22:01Speaker 1: do whatever they. Want was Not, Michael but good for
- 22:03Speaker 1: you Se marino for getting a better.
- 22:05Speaker 2: Deal and now we're going to track those two even
- 22:08Speaker 2: more so to see who has you, know the better
- 22:11Speaker 2: second half because Obviously montas is out for a, minute
- 22:13Speaker 2: and maybe who factors into the. Playoffs did you guys
- 22:16Speaker 2: see the minor league bullpen cart run out of steam
- 22:19Speaker 2: this weekend for The. A'S i think we got, it
- 22:22Speaker 2: but they had to get another car to backup. Car
- 22:26Speaker 2: it is minor league, BASEBALL i. THINK i think they
- 22:29Speaker 2: said it on The mets broadcast at, one but they're,
- 22:30Speaker 2: like this is the minor, leagues this is what.
- 22:32Speaker 5: Happens how does that?
- 22:34Speaker 1: Happen? Though how does it Have i've never how does it?
- 22:37Speaker 1: Say it's what's a series? On? That WASN'T seri on
- 22:39Speaker 1: that from when he felled them off his? Shin, yeah
- 22:42Speaker 1: and they had to. Go they had to go first of, All,
- 22:44Speaker 1: TODD i don't know about, you but have you ever
- 22:45Speaker 1: felt the ball for shin so bad you needed a
- 22:47Speaker 1: bullpen card to take you off the.
- 22:48Speaker 6: Field, Uh.
- 22:51Speaker 4: I've had a bad, one but NOTHING I i've usually
- 22:54Speaker 4: walked it.
- 22:54Speaker 6: OFF i.
- 22:56Speaker 1: KNOW i thought that was, funny BUT i mean not.
- 22:57Speaker 1: Funny it's. Sad he was. Hurt, honey they needed the,
- 23:00Speaker 1: cart and then of course they call the cart it
- 23:02Speaker 1: runs out of, Gas, like don't don't they don't they
- 23:05Speaker 1: check these things before they take them on the. Field,
- 23:07Speaker 1: SCOTT i don't, know.
- 23:09Speaker 2: DAMN I i would, hope, SO i would hope so
- 23:13Speaker 2: you would, think, right, yeah we we got some struggles
- 23:16Speaker 2: out there in Sack tooe right. NOW i, mean there
- 23:19Speaker 2: could be worth feeling.
- 23:20Speaker 5: It it could be, worse and it might get worse,
- 23:23Speaker 5: Worse it could be.
- 23:24Speaker 1: Worse how did you see the pictures they showed to
- 23:25Speaker 1: the crowds the other? Day there was like nobody at the.
- 23:28Speaker 7: Games yeah, Playing i'm playing The.
- 23:30Speaker 1: Mets they're playing The. Mets that's a big market team
- 23:33Speaker 1: with fans, everywhere you, know so far As sacramento they've
- 23:36Speaker 1: had they've had The, cubs The, padres and The. Mets
- 23:40Speaker 1: wait till The rockies or someone like that comes into
- 23:42Speaker 1: town now that they knocking The rockies, Fans but they're.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Not they don't have the national following that The, cubs
- 23:49Speaker 1: especially The cubs and The mets and even The padres
- 23:51Speaker 1: do because they're not that far. Away SO i don't,
- 23:54Speaker 1: KNOW i DON'T i don't.
- 23:56Speaker 6: Know we'll see not good.
- 23:58Speaker 2: SONG i genuinely thought that they would have more excitement
- 24:00Speaker 2: just because they're getting a major league team for a
- 24:02Speaker 2: little bit of.
- 24:03Speaker 5: Time BUT i think there's a stench going.
- 24:05Speaker 1: On they didn't want.
- 24:07Speaker 6: It.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Though if you name it The Sacramento, a's even for
- 24:10Speaker 1: a couple of, years the people will get behind. It
- 24:13Speaker 1: but by saying, oh we're not going to claim, you
- 24:15Speaker 1: we're just using you for a couple of, years people
- 24:17Speaker 1: In sacramento are.
- 24:18Speaker 2: Like, What, yeah it's a good call. Things, hey we'll
- 24:24Speaker 2: get to this part here from The a's as. Well
- 24:27Speaker 2: this could be good news for. Them Nick kurtz was
- 24:29Speaker 2: their first round pick last year at a Wake. Forest
- 24:32Speaker 2: he can really hit. Fourth, overall his position is hit. Her,
- 24:36Speaker 2: okay his first, baseman but hit. Her he'll PROBABLY dh,
- 24:39Speaker 2: yeah and they probably want to call him up pretty SOON,
- 24:43Speaker 2: Aj but they're going to start to have to play
- 24:45Speaker 2: a little bit of musical. Chairs rooker hadn't played the
- 24:47Speaker 2: outfield in a. Year they put him out. There they're
- 24:49Speaker 2: hoping to have him And butler on the corners because
- 24:52Speaker 2: then you've Got. Kurtz soderstrom is swinging the crap out
- 24:55Speaker 2: of the the bat right. Now but you can't you
- 24:58Speaker 2: CAN'T dh. Everybody so If rooker is going to play,
- 25:01Speaker 2: outfield then you could Put soderstrum And kurts in a
- 25:05Speaker 2: little mix at first base and one of them at
- 25:07Speaker 2: THE h seems like that's going to be the, plan
- 25:09Speaker 2: and probably soon Because kurts can really help.
- 25:11Speaker 5: THEM i think he's ready, now you're.
- 25:14Speaker 1: Right he can. Swing he's been raking tou and plus
- 25:16Speaker 1: you know, what he's in TRIPLE, a, RIGHT.
- 25:19Speaker 5: M i Think i'm almost. Positive, yeah, yeah, okay, YEAH
- 25:23Speaker 5: i thought he. Was so it's either double or. Triple
- 25:26Speaker 5: it's upper miners.
- 25:27Speaker 1: Like it's either. One it doesn't. Matter, yeah it doesn't.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Matter he needs to if he can help, triple he
- 25:32Speaker 1: needs to be. There, yeah he's in TRIPLE, a, right
- 25:34Speaker 1: he's In. Vegas SO i think that if he needs
- 25:36Speaker 1: to be, there if he can help, them he needs
- 25:38Speaker 1: to be. There they're not gaining anything by keeping him
- 25:41Speaker 1: down service time. WISE i know we don't talk about
- 25:43Speaker 1: it as much because they've tried to eliminate, it but
- 25:44Speaker 1: it still is if he's ready to be, there you,
- 25:47Speaker 1: know service time manipulation is still a thing for.
- 25:49Speaker 3: Teams i'm.
- 25:50Speaker 2: Sorry, Right, Oh so you're saying they're going to keep
- 25:53Speaker 2: him down for a little bit and wait until the
- 25:56Speaker 2: well we're already pretty day at that, point right for
- 25:59Speaker 2: the service time. Clock but you're saying maybe the super
- 26:01Speaker 2: two o'clock.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Too all of. It that's what the that's what the
- 26:05Speaker 1: service time manipulation is to dodge the super, two because
- 26:08Speaker 1: then you have to an extra year of, arbitration.
- 26:11Speaker 2: RIGHT i do think Though rooker is a sign that
- 26:14Speaker 2: they're getting ready for, that that they need to start
- 26:16Speaker 2: getting him some outfield.
- 26:17Speaker 5: Time, again, TRUE a, GREAT a.
- 26:20Speaker 1: GREAT i don't. KNOW i just think if he can help,
- 26:21Speaker 1: him he needs to be. There Like i'm a big
- 26:23Speaker 1: believer as a former, player AND i Think todd would
- 26:25Speaker 1: feel the same. Way, like if a guy can help us,
- 26:27Speaker 1: win let's get him. HERE i don't care about service. Time,
- 26:29Speaker 1: again it's not my, money it's not my service. Time,
- 26:32Speaker 1: like if a guy can help us in the minor,
- 26:33Speaker 1: leagues let's bring him, up and let's put him in
- 26:34Speaker 1: a situation to help, us because there's no tomorrow. Guaranteed.
- 26:39Speaker 2: No this kid's been the best hitter in the minor
- 26:42Speaker 2: leagues the first couple of weeks of the.
- 26:44Speaker 5: Year, yeah you, know and.
- 26:46Speaker 2: He played obviously advanced college fall he was a stud in.
- 26:50Speaker 2: College and, yeah he looks unfazed so. Far he looks
- 26:53Speaker 2: like he's. READY i, know it's, quick