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The Twin's ID: How a License Unraveled a Decade of Lies · Narcisist Psychology

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: The door to the Renner Road apartment was unlocked. At
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  Speaker 1: eleven fifteen on a Tuesday morning in September of two
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. Kimberly Thompson, the hospitality volunteer from Saint Agatha's,
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  Speaker 1: had come to drop off a casserole and a card.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody was home. She set the dish on the counter,
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  Speaker 1: turned to leave, and then stopped. On the dining room table.
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  Speaker 1: In plain sight was an Indiana driver's license. The photograph
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  Speaker 1: on it was a woman. She recognized. The name printed
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  Speaker 1: beneath that photograph was not the name. She knew that
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  Speaker 1: single object, one laminated card on a table, would pull
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  Speaker 1: apart eight years of constructed reality and expose a manipulation
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  Speaker 1: so methodical it had survived two states, two women, and
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  Speaker 1: at least two prior victims who never saw justice. The
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  Speaker 1: license belonged to a woman named Wanda Bishop, but the
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  Speaker 1: face in the photograph was Rhnda Tucker's. Ronda Tucker and
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  Speaker 1: her twin sister, Wanda, were born four minutes apart in Munsey, Indiana,
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  Speaker 1: in the spring of nineteen eighty one. Four minutes that
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  Speaker 1: gap would become in time, the precise width of everything
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  Speaker 1: Ronald Bishop needed their mother, Diane Tucker, raised them alone.
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  Speaker 1: She worked dispatch, long shifts irregular hours. The twins learned
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  Speaker 1: early to rely on each other. By the time they
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  Speaker 1: were adults that bond had the specific gravity of something
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  Speaker 1: forged under pressure, not sentimental but structural. They were each
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  Speaker 1: other's reference point. Ronda settled in Delwood, Indiana, a modest
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  Speaker 1: city forty minutes from Munsey, and took a job at
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  Speaker 1: a medical supply distributor on the north side of town.
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  Speaker 1: She was precise by nature. Her garden at the Renner
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  Speaker 1: Road apartment was planted in exact rows every spring, with
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  Speaker 1: a perimeter of marigolds that she placed herself bed by bed.
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  Speaker 1: Her teammates at the Dellwood Women's Industrial League knew her
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  Speaker 1: as consistently dependable, the kind of person who showed up
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  Speaker 1: every week without being asked. She had bowld in that
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  Speaker 1: league since she was twenty four years old. Wanda moved east.
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  Speaker 1: She trained as a dental hygienist and built a life
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  Speaker 1: in Columbus, Ohio. The sisters stayed in contact calls visits
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  Speaker 1: until gradually they didn't. Ronald Bishop entered Ronda's life in
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  Speaker 1: twenty eleven at a bar trivia night. He was approximately
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  Speaker 1: thirty eight years old, born in Terre Hate, and described
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  Speaker 1: by people who met him during that period as a
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  Speaker 1: practice charmer, quick with details, attentive, the kind of person
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  Speaker 1: who made you feel chosen. Within months of that first meeting,
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  Speaker 1: he had moved into Ronda's apartment on Renner Road. What
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  Speaker 1: followed looked from the outside like an ordinary relationship finding
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  Speaker 1: its own footing. Ronald was present, He was helpful, He
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  Speaker 1: filled space in a way that felt at first like stability.
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  Speaker 1: But by twenty twelve, something quieter had begun. No single rule,
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  Speaker 1: no explicit prohibition, just a slow redrawing of the edges
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  Speaker 1: of Ronda's world. Friends fell away, not because Ronald forbade contact,
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  Speaker 1: but because the friction of maintaining those relationships increased in
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  Speaker 1: ways that are difficult to name. By twenty fifteen, Ronda
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  Speaker 1: had no independent bank account and no credit card in
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  Speaker 1: her own name. The financial architecture of her daily life
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  Speaker 1: ran entirely through Ronald. Her coworker, Debbie Morse, would later
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  Speaker 1: recall that in the spring of twenty sixteen, Ronda returned
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  Speaker 1: from a four day personal leave looking, in Morse's word,
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  Speaker 1: hollowed out. Morse noticed it. She did not know what
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  Speaker 1: had happened that week. Nobody did not. Yet by twenty seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: Rondea had stopped bowling. Her teammates held her spot anyway.
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  Speaker 1: They would hold it for two years. In twenty seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: she also saw a councilor referred for anxiety. Her clinician
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  Speaker 1: documented her symptoms and noted them as likely unfounded. Ronald
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  Speaker 1: attended the second session. He was documented as helpful. Ronda
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  Speaker 1: stopped going shortly after, from Terre Haute to Delwood, from
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  Speaker 1: a trivia bar to a dining room table. The distance
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  Speaker 1: Ronald Bishop traveled to dismantle one woman's reality was on
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  Speaker 1: a map. Unremarkable. What he carried with him was not.
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  Speaker 1: The parking receipt was still in the glove box when
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  Speaker 1: Frank Snyder found it, a folded slip of paper from
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  Speaker 1: a Columbus, Ohio garage dated August two thousand, nineteen. Ronda's
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  Speaker 1: license plate on the ticket. Ronda with no memory of
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  Speaker 1: making that trip. Frank Snyder was a private investigator and
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  Speaker 1: former social services caseworker out of Fort w one. He
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  Speaker 1: was hired in September of twenty nineteen, days after Kimberly
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  Speaker 1: Thompson found the license on the dining room table to
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  Speaker 1: reconstruct what had been happening inside Ronda Tucker's life. What
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  Speaker 1: he found was not a single event. It was a
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  Speaker 1: pattern built quietly over years, out of objects and absences
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  Speaker 1: that each looked ordinary on their own. Start with the
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  Speaker 1: license Indiana driver's license. The photograph on it was Ronda's face.
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  Speaker 1: The name printed on it was Wanda Bishop. That object
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  Speaker 1: alone carries two impossible things at once. A photograph is
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  Speaker 1: a record of a body. A name is a record
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  Speaker 1: of a legal identity. On that license, they belonged to
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  Speaker 1: two different women, and it had been sitting on Ronda's
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  Speaker 1: dining room table in Ronda's apartment in Dellwood, with the
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  Speaker 1: front door unlocked and nobody home. Snyder pulled the Indiana
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  Speaker 1: BMV record. The license had been issued in twenty sixteen
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  Speaker 1: to Wanda Bishop. Nay Tucker had a Columbus, Ohio address
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  Speaker 1: that was verifiable, That was real. Then he pulled the
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  Speaker 1: Hamilton County Court House record. Ronald Bishop and Dwanda Tucker
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  Speaker 1: married March two thousand sixteen. The officiant's records confirmed it.
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  Speaker 1: Ronald had been living with Ronda on Renner Road, throughout
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  Speaker 1: that period. He had been living with Ronda. When he
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  Speaker 1: married her twin sister. He had kept both arrangements running
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  Speaker 1: in two states for more than three years. But here
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  Speaker 1: is the thing. The parking receipt in Ronda's glove box
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  Speaker 1: meant some one had driven her car to Columbus in
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  Speaker 1: August two thousand nineteen. Ronald's work schedule put him on
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  Speaker 1: sight on Saturdays. Ronda's routine every week left a window
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  Speaker 1: of roughly four hours. The receipt was dated a Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: her plate Columbus, four hours there and back as possible,
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  Speaker 1: just barely but possible. Snyder documented the gap, he did
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  Speaker 1: not fill it with assumption. He let the paper sit
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  Speaker 1: beside the question it raised. Ronda's employment record added another
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  Speaker 1: layer in the spring of twenty sixteen. The same spring
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  Speaker 1: Ronald married Wanda in Hamilton County, Ronda took four days
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  Speaker 1: of personal leave. No health claims filed that week, no
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  Speaker 1: explanation in the record. She came back and Debbie Moore
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  Speaker 1: said she looked hollowed out. Where had she been The
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  Speaker 1: record does not say, but Ronald's Gray Dodge received a
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  Speaker 1: parking ticket in Hamilton County, Ohio on the second day
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  Speaker 1: of that leave, Ronald was in Columbus while Ronda was
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  Speaker 1: absent from Dellwood. The overlap is documented. The reason for
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  Speaker 1: Ronda's leave is not One more piece. Wanda had been
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  Speaker 1: calling Ronda for roughly eight months before Ronald's rest. The
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  Speaker 1: calls went to voicemaid all of them. Ronda, by her
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  Speaker 1: own account, did not know who Wanda Bishop was. She
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: had a sister named Wanda Tucker. The name Wanda Bishop
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  Speaker 1: meant nothing to her. Wanda calling from Columbus, did not
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  Speaker 1: know that. She only knew that the woman on the
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  Speaker 1: other end of the line never picked up. It was
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  Speaker 1: a Tuesday morning in September twenty nineteen when Kimberly Thompson
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  Speaker 1: walked up to Ronda's door. She was a hospitality volunteer
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  Speaker 1: at Saint Agatha's in Dellwood, forty two years old, there
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  Speaker 1: to drop off a casserole and a card. The door
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  Speaker 1: was unlocked. She knocked, then stepped inside to leave the food.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody was home. The license was on the dining room table.
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  Speaker 1: Kimberly picked it up because it was face up and
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: the face looking back at her was one she recognized.
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  Speaker 1: She knew Ronda Tucker. She had known her for years
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  Speaker 1: through the parish. The name printed beneath that face was
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  Speaker 1: not Ronda Tucker. It was Wanda Bishop. She stood there
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  Speaker 1: for a moment, then she called someone. That call started
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: the investigation. Snyder was brought in within days, and the
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  Speaker 1: first thing he established was not what the license meant,
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  Speaker 1: it was where it had come from. Wanda Tucker testified
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  Speaker 1: at trial about that object. The license, she said, had
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  Speaker 1: been left on Ronda's table by Ronald, not by accident.
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  Speaker 1: It was a pressure mechanism. Ronald and Wanda had argued
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  Speaker 1: the prior week end. The license had ended up on
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  Speaker 1: that table as a form of leverage, a reminder, or
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  Speaker 1: a threat, depending on how you read it. Wanda said
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  Speaker 1: it was never put away. She had not intended Kimberly
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  Speaker 1: Thompson to find it. Ronald had not intended Kimberly Thompson
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  Speaker 1: to find it. The license was never meant for outside eyes.
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  Speaker 1: It was meant to remain inside the sealed world. Ronald
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  Speaker 1: had constructed a world where two women existed in parallel,
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  Speaker 1: and neither one knew the full shape of what was happening.
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  Speaker 1: The sealed world cracked on a Tuesday morning. A casse
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  Speaker 1: role an unlocked door, a woman's face beneath the wrong name.
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  Speaker 1: When Snyder reached Ronda with what he had found, the
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  Speaker 1: documents were already in order. The marriage record, the BMV ret,
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  Speaker 1: the parking ticket placing Ronald in Hamilton County on the
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  Speaker 1: second day of Ronda's leave in twenty sixteen, the receipt
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  Speaker 1: from the Columbus garage in August twenty nineteen. There is
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  Speaker 1: something in the record that is easy to pass over
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  Speaker 1: too quickly. Ronda's medical file from twenty seventeen notes a
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  Speaker 1: councilor referral for anxiety. The clinician documented her concerns and
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  Speaker 1: labeled them likely unfounded. Ronald attended the second session. He
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  Speaker 1: was documented as helpful likely unfounded. The phrase appears in
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  Speaker 1: the file as clinical shorthand what it means reading it
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  Speaker 1: beside everything else, is that a professional sat across from
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  Speaker 1: a woman whose financial autonomy me had been stripped, whose
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  Speaker 1: social world had been narrowed, whose twin sister had been
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  Speaker 1: calling her for months without answer, and sent her home
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  Speaker 1: with a note that her perception of her own life
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  Speaker 1: was probably mistaken. Ronald was in the room for that.
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  Speaker 1: He was documented as helpful. Picture Ronald Bishop In the
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  Speaker 1: spring of two thousand sixteen, he is in two places
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  Speaker 1: inside a single week. He is in Delwood with Ronda,
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  Speaker 1: who takes four days of leave from work for reasons
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  Speaker 1: she will not be able to explain years later. And
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  Speaker 1: he is in Hamilton County, Ohio, where a parking ticket
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  Speaker 1: places his Gray Dodge on the second day of her
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  Speaker 1: absence while he stands inside a court house and signs
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  Speaker 1: a marriage record beside Wanda Tucker. One version of what
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  Speaker 1: Ronald was doing says this was opportunistic, a man who
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  Speaker 1: found in twins a specific kind of structural advantage and
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  Speaker 1: exploited it. The photographs would be similar, the mannerisms might overlap.
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  Speaker 1: The family history was shared. If you needed someone to
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  Speaker 1: sign a document under a particular name, and you had
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  Speaker 1: already built a life with some one whose face matched,
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  Speaker 1: the architecture was already there. But that version of events
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  Speaker 1: has a problem. It requires Ronald to have planned across
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  Speaker 1: years and across state lines, to have maintained two complete
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  Speaker 1: emotional lives simultaneously, to have managed the financial threads of
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  Speaker 1: each Ronda's accounts running through him. By two thousand fifteen,
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  Speaker 1: Wanda's accounts showing inconsistencies she noticed in two thousand eighteen
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  Speaker 1: and set aside. Planning that specific sustained for that long
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  Speaker 1: is not the behavior of some one seizing an opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: It is the behavior of some one who has done
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  Speaker 1: this before. Ronald's jail house confession, delivered to his cell
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  Speaker 1: mate Steve Hardly, within six weeks of his arrest, named
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  Speaker 1: two prior women, a woman in terre Hate around two
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  Speaker 1: thousand four, a woman in Evansville around two thousand eight.
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  Speaker 1: Cheryl Mapes reported identity fraud in terre Hate in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand five. The case was closed unsolved. Douglas Fenn, a
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  Speaker 1: landlord in Evansville, flagged a rental application in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: nine as potentially fraudulent. Two women, same appearance, different names,
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  Speaker 1: same unit, one week apart. He noted it in his
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  Speaker 1: personal files. No formal case was ever opened. Ronald's formal confession,
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  Speaker 1: made eleven days after Hartley contacted the Public Defender's office,
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  Speaker 1: provided dates, addresses, and names. The terre Hate and Evansville
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  Speaker 1: accounts are supported by that confession, and by Mapes's report
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  Speaker 1: and Fenn's note. They were not separately charged. So walk
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  Speaker 1: back to Dellwood with that in mind, the bar trivia
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  Speaker 1: night in two thousand eleven, the charm, the speed of
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  Speaker 1: the move to Reneoe, the years it took to redirect
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  Speaker 1: Ronda's financial life entirely through him, the Councilor's session, the
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  Speaker 1: license left on the table as leverage. Every element that
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  Speaker 1: looked at first like the history of a troubled relationship
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  Speaker 1: is from this angle something that had been assembled before
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: the tools were familiar, the timeline was practiced. What Ronald
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  Speaker 1: brought to Ronda was not a relationship he was figuring
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: out as he went. It was a version of something
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  Speaker 1: he had already run twice. The strongest evidence against that
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  Speaker 1: reading is also the most ordinary fact in the file.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Ronda's bowling teammates held her spot for two years, not
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  Speaker 1: because anyone told them to, not because they knew what
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  Speaker 1: had happened, because she was Ronda and they expected her back.
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  Speaker 1: She came back Spring twenty twenty, same rose in the garden,
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  Speaker 1: same marigold perimeter. She and Wanda had spoken three times
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  Speaker 1: by then. Cautious calls partial Rea connection. Two women who
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: shared a face, a childhood, a mother who worked dispatch,
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  Speaker 1: and raised them alone, finding each other across the damage.
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  Speaker 1: One man had moved between them deliberately for years. Ronald
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  Speaker 1: Bishop was sentenced to nine years four counts of identity fraud,
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  Speaker 1: two counts of financial exploitation of a vulnerable adult, one
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  Speaker 1: count of bigamy. The license is in evidence now, Ronda's face,
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  Speaker 1: Wanda's name, a document that was never meant to be
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  Speaker 1: found sitting on a dining room table on a Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: morning in September, waiting for someone to pick it up.
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  Speaker 1: The trial opened in spring twenty twenty one. Ronda Tucker
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  Speaker 1: walked into that courtroom, took the stand, and told a
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  Speaker 1: jury in Dellwood County what eight years inside Ronald Bishop's
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: architecture had looked like From the inside. She described the
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: gradual narrowing, the accounts redirected, the Council of Session he
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: attended in the chair beside her, where a clinician noted
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  Speaker 1: he was helpful. She described the four day league she
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: took in spring twenty sixteen, the trip whose purpose she
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: still cannot fully reconstruct, and the parking receipt that turned
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  Speaker 1: up in her glove box three years later. Wanda Bishop
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  Speaker 1: testified too. She told the jury that the license was
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: not planted for Kimberly Thompson. It was a pressure tool
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  Speaker 1: Ronald left on the table after an argument the week
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  Speaker 1: end before, aimed at Wanda. Never put away. Nobody anticipated
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  Speaker 1: a hospitality volunteer letting herself in through an unlocked door
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  Speaker 1: on a Tuesday morning. The jury convicted on all seven counts,
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  Speaker 1: four counts of identity fraud, two counts of financial exploitation
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  Speaker 1: of a vulnerable adult, one count of bigamy. Ronald Bishop
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  Speaker 1: was sentenced to nine years. The cellmate's account held up.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Hartley had contacted the Public Defender's office voluntarily within
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: six weeks of Ronald's arrest. Eleven days after that contact,
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  Speaker 1: Ronald gave a formal confession. Dates, addresses, names, terre Hot
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  Speaker 1: two thousand four, Evansville, approximately two thousand eight. Cheryl Mabes
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  Speaker 1: had filed a report in two thousand and five. It
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  Speaker 1: was closed unsolved. Douglas Fenn had written a note in
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and nine about a rental application that did
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  Speaker 1: not add up. Two women's same appearance, different names, same unit,
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  Speaker 1: one week apart. He kept it in a personal file.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody connected the dots until Ronald connected them himself in
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  Speaker 1: a jail cell, talking to a man he had no
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: particular reason to trust that detail that Ronald confessed in pieces,
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  Speaker 1: first casually to Hartly, then formally with specifics sits in
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  Speaker 1: the record without a clean explanation. The charitable reading is
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: guilt finding a pressure release. The structural reading is that
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: a man who had managed parallel REases for years still understood,
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  Speaker 1: even from custody, that naming the other women first before
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: investigators found them independently gave him some control over the
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  Speaker 1: shape of the story. Both readings may be true at once.
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  Speaker 1: What the confession confirmed, and what the Mapes report and
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  Speaker 1: Fenn's note corroborate within their limits is that Ronald Bishop
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: arrived in Dellwood in two thousand eleven having already practiced. RYL.
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  Speaker 1: Mapes and the unnamed Evansville woman are not in the
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  Speaker 1: public record with full detail. Their cases were not separately charged.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: What the record shows is that the system that might
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: have flagged Ronald an unsolved fraud report a landlord's private
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: notation did not produce a searchable result that would have
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: stopped the next iteration. There are two images from this
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  Speaker 1: case that do not leave the record easily. The first
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: is the license itself, a laminated card Indiana issued photo
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  Speaker 1: of Rhonda Tucker name reading Wanda Bishop. It was generated
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: by a real state transaction in twenty sixteen. It passed
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  Speaker 1: through a real bureaucratic process. It sat on a dining
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  Speaker 1: room table for days before anyone outside the relationship saw it.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: The object that collapsed Ronald's arrangement was the same object
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  Speaker 1: he had used to build part of it. The second
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  Speaker 1: image is the garden spring twenty twenty. Ronda Tucker back
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  Speaker 1: at Renner Road or wherever she plants now, pressing seeds
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: into the same precise rowse the marigold perimeter running the
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  Speaker 1: border the way it always had. Her bowling teammates held
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: her lane for two years without being asked to. That
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: is not a small thing. Two years of a reserved spot,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: a group of women who decided without instruction that she
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: would come back. She did. Wanda Bishop reverted to her
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  Speaker 1: name after the trial. The record does not detail the
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: full extent of what she lost in the years the
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: marriage was active. What it showed is that she and
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  Speaker 1: Ronda had spoken three times by spring twenty twenty. Cautious
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  Speaker 1: calls two women who shared a face, a childhood four
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  Speaker 1: minutes between their berths, and a mother who raised them alone,
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  Speaker 1: running a dispatch desk, learning to talk to each other
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  Speaker 1: across the specific damage. One man had routed between them
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  Speaker 1: deliberately for years. The questions that do not have clean
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: answers in the record are the ones about what Ronda
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: experienced in spring twenty sixteen, the four days of leave,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the parking receipt, the gap between what the record establishes
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: she was present for and what she says she remembers.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: A clinician in twenty seventeen marked her reported anxiety as
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: likely unfounded. The trial record characterizes that as a misdiagnosis.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: The full shape of that four day period remains in
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  Speaker 1: the public file unresolved. Ronald Bishop is serving his sentence.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: The women in terre hate in Evansville are named only
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: in the confession transcript. Cheryl Mapes filed a report twenty
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: years ago that went nowhere. Douglas Fenn wrote a note
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: that stayed in a drawer. The license is in evidence,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Ronda's face, Wanda's name, a document that survived because a
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: door was left unlocked and a volunteer arrived at eleven
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  Speaker 1: fifteen on a Tuesday morning with a casse rope and
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: a car and noticed that something on that table should
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: not exist. Some arrangements collapsed through investigation, some collapse through confession.
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  Speaker 1: This one collapsed through a casserole dish and an unlocked
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  Speaker 1: door in Delwood, Indiana, on an ordinary Tuesday in September.
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  Speaker 1: Ronda Tucker is still here. That is the fact. The
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