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Between Two Derbies - Ep. 208 Ft. Luca & Joe from All Juve Cast · The Calcio Guys

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They say the best things come to those who wait. That's a statement for
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here on the podcast and also for Uventus this past weekend. Uh On Nicholas
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with a drano and then joined by us this week Luca and Joe our new
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best friends from all you vag cast. How are you guys doing chaw t
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belly brew t. We're doing We're doing good. We're doing good. I
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was gonna we're never letting you again, like I'm cut that out, cut
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it out. I thought that was like a catch line or something. I
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wasn't I didn't realize this was the first time you did that that this is
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not It's actually the first thing that Timothy Way has said when he signed for
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you. All right, American legend Timothy Way up. But thank thank you
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guys for for coming on. A week delayed I think comes. I think
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it comes at a good time that we get to talk about you. You
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know, we got to watch the derby together. One one against Inter nearly
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a week ago, to one late winner for you, a late winner against
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Manza. Gatti redeem redeemed himself with that goal. And then this upcoming Friday,
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another big game against Napoli, which will be exciting It's almost feels like
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I wouldn't call it a trap game, guys, because Napoli is a good
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team, but where they are with the coaching situation, it could easily to
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could easily be like, oh yeah, we could easily beat them, but
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no, you never easily be Napoli. We'll talk about that soon. But
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guys, uh, did you guys survive on Friday? Like watching the Monster
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game? What was going through your mind? Joe. I'm afraid to let
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Joe start again because the last time he said my guess could go ahead.
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That game was a game of two halves. I mean I I was nodding
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off in the second one and then the last obviously the last nine minutes game
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like Sparks to life. So it was a very emotional roller coaster to partake
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in. But on a Friday, it's it's it's ask me a lot to
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know Joe. The the inter game that was about about what I expected.
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You know, those Derby's always is they can go one of two ways.
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It's either a draw or it's like an absolute blowout, But this time it
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was a draw. I mean, all the action was in pretty much the
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first thirty five minutes of the first half and then we just sat back the
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rest of the game, So, like whatever, I tuned out for a
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little bit of it, but I mean that's what a legly ball does to
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some of the time. So yeah, that was uh, but it was
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fun to see everybody there. That was why I was, That was mostly
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why I was there to begin with it. So yeah, yeah, exactly,
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I got to experience it, experience it at Tarro's between n and Dano.
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Usually if we go there, it's either for a melon game or an
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Italy game. So it was nice to see an inter Uve game. Yeah,
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just one of those games, like you said, Joe, first three
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five minutes, you know, after that, it was exciting. After that,
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it was it seemed that as if both teams were afraid, and you
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know, we kind of saw a bit of the same against Manza, but
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in a different way where you've you know, got the goal early, they
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did press the rest of the first half. They had another chance, got
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I had a good chance. I forget if it was off a corner or
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a free kick. You just skided it right over the net. But then
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second half coms again typical age defending, which you know, when it works,
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it works everyone's copying. We got three points, but it didn't work.
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Nearly didn't work with the late monsa goal this time, and guys,
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when when that happened. When I saw that, I was thinking, this
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is, uh, this is I think this is on everybody, not just
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players, but coaching staff, the subs that were made, they went all
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defensive that whole half, but even the players just there was just no There
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was just no offensive game plan at all. It would have been, you
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know, everybody could point fingers at everybody else, but at the end of
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the day, it would have been accountable on the whole team. And then
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luck Rabbio decides to turn into a workout a workhorse again, goes down the
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right side with that, with that goal, gets the right to guy who
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actually missed the first first attempt, puts away on the second. Uh.
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He has the thing for scoring clutch goals, eh, I mean what it's
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four people. I think it's like people stack four together, but one of
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them. The goal against Tourno wasn't not the second goal, like or was
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it the first that he scored? My memory doesn't serve him. It was
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it didn't It didn't like, you know, resolve the game like, this
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is obviously much bigger, and the two before that I believe were even bigger.
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Last year, Yeah, there was one in the Europa League. Uh,
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towards the end of the game. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
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But you know you're having problems when you're relying on a center back to
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be putting goals away. We're not going to get into that topic, but
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yeah, Joe, you're not wrong. Listen, he's got goal last year.
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How many goals did we rely on Bremer for? I mean, like,
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look how many goals you got in this season. This that's the way
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I like likes to play. He likes towering center backs, and you know
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what I mean, it's it's obviously working for him in certain aspects. So
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you know what I mean. I don't mean the lat but it's just it.
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I think it just shows you the kind of I don't want to put
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it all on well I agree, but I mean it just kind of shows
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you where we're at in terms of the offense. You know, like it
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seems game in, game out, the team doesn't exactly know what to do
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in the final third of the pitch. But like you alluded to, Nick,
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it's just like the first half we had. We had a pretty decent
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amount of chances. If I remember correctly, I think we had something like
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six or eight big chances something like that, but we just couldn't we can't
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capitalize. It just seems like the the forwards that we have, and I'm
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talking about Kys, I'm talking about Duson just can't seem to put the put
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those shots away, you know, and here we are, what do you
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what do you guys? What do you guys put that on? Like,
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I mean, those are those are two Those are two guys that you spend
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some good money on, two talents in this league, two quality players,
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and we know they can produce, you know, with the block and white
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stripes. It seems to be a different story. So what do you guys
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put that on? If you have to kind of put your finger on it
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because there's I don't know why to make it sound like there's always excuses with
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these two but or with your attack, but uh, it's always it's always
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something. So where do you guys kind of why and say like, well,
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this is probably the biggest factor as to why we're depending on a former
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bricklayer to to score our goals, right, So what do you where do
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you guys, what do you guys put it to that, to that topic
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you go for some I'm not. First of all, it's not dish on
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brick layers because and I don't I would not want to insult that man.
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I love him. But it's a lot of Italians out there, So I
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just gonna say, I'm sure. So it's not let's not rub the wrong
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people the wrong way. No, I mean it's it's it's kind of worms
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uh this topic. And you ask it properly because obviously you want to see
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you want to get into, you know, the nitty gritty of all Uventus
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fans. I know, why are your why are the two most like effective
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and let's say expensive players on your on your roster, you know, not
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providing what they're supposed to provide. Why did they Why why they're not anymore?
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You know, there's a lot of questions there, and if you really
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want to get people going, especially UFNS, that that's the right question.
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My answer, I don't want to put it on the coach. I don't
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want to throw it direct on him. It doesn't help. But I think
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there's a lot more to it. I think our roster as a hole,
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specifically on midfield. You know, like these guys don't get much in terms
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of support, in terms of just getting the ball to them, Like in
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terms of what they're being fed, it's not much. A lot of it
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has to be done on their own, you know. And then the final
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product, you know, you only get one or two shots the entire game.
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I mean, these guys are still young. They might miss, they
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probably miss both, and that's it. That's and they get raged on and
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they got you know, they got ripped apart for that. So I think
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there's more to it than just blaming the coach in the system. I think
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there's a lot more that's missing, and to me, it points mostly to
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the midfield. Joe, I'm gonna blame the now, I'm kidding, do
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it? I part of I there is, without a doubt, that is
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part of the problem. I mean, you see Kis is being played out
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of position and consistently, you know, do Son's left alone on an island,
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and like I said, the team doesn't know what to do in the
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final third of the pitch. And I think that a lot of that is
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because of the way we're set up the three five two. We've talked about
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it, even with al on the all Uve cast, it seems like we
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and I kind of like, I hate saying this, but it's also kind
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of true. We got rid of one of the guys who could have been
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playing up the middle in Dibala, you know, like then we subbed him
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for de Maria, which didn't exactly work out, And now we don't have
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any movement through the middle of the pitch. Nobody creative, no one kind
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of like doing that. And it shows so And like I said, I
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don't want to strictly put it on a regulary, but that all those things
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are true. All of those things that I just said are true. There's
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no dynamism up the middle of the pitch. We have nobody Like if you're
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going to play with two strikers, he's forcing Kiza to play as like a
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support striker role in my eyes, which is not where he's good. He's
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good on the left. So without someone who's sitting behind those two strikers,
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it's providing support. There's no link between the midfield and the attack, like
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Lucas talking about, there's just no that. It seems like defense to midfield
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is fine. It's midfield to attack. Where we're really running into problems.
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So you put also maybe management into that into that point, Joel, like
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you said, you guys got rid of of Dibala, and obviously he's still
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capable of doing things we see him in stead a roma. Uh do you
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kind of loop in management for letting him go uh in that in that conversation
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or or is that just a whole separate thing in your eyes. That's a
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very good question. That was That was because even because and I don't want
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to cut you off, but even when you guys did have him, you
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know, it was always the same story with Dibala. You guys didn't know
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where to play and what was his position? Where was his role? Guys,
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we're sitting across the pond and and we're kind of having answers to those
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questions here. Uh. And they couldn't see it over there across the pond.
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So and it was as a new and as a not a neutral,
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but as an outsider. You know, I'm not a fan of you of
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it, but just looking at that situation, it was It's pretty crazy that
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after all these years that he was with you guys, he did all amazing
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things with you, He won with you, he did every whatever. At
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the end of it, there was still the conversation of where does Dibala play?
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Where's his position? Are we playing them on the wing? Are we
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playing him as a ten, are we playing him as a second striker,
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are we playing them as whatever? Like? There was always that discussion,
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and it till this day still puzzles me how that was remotely possible for how
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long you guys kept him on. But in this case, like Joe's saying,
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I would agree that he obviously would benefit greatly behind two strikers. Let's
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say, in this case, behind that maybe Avalovich and Za or whatever.
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If it's just one striker and he plays as a ten behind he's that fantasista
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type of player. So that's why I asked the question. If you put
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management like in that in the like in your in your the way, you're
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the way you're answering the question just because you know with that whole mainly I
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you know, upper management of view of a one of the pieces that leaves
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is is probably So that's kind of why I asked ask the question. That
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had to be one of the most like poorly handled contract negotiation that I've seen
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ever since I can remember watching watching the game. You know, it's like,
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is it solely you've a management's fault. I don't know, I I
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I want to say no, I want to obviously it's not just their fault.
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If I remember correctly, Debala's agent wasn't exactly doing a many favors,
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but it still stands. I mean, you see the record that he had
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with with Youve. He wanted to stay at the club. I think it
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was just a matter of like a lot of things, it would just came
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down to a matter of money and the club didn't want to pay. And
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here we are. That was a very tumultuous time. If I remember everything,
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it seems like a million years ago, but it really was. But
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the club was going through a lot of changes. We were going like Ve
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was going through another scandal. H So, like a lot of things going
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on at once, and it was probably just another byproduct of all of that
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together. You know, it was I cannot say it enough. It was
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a poor management decision, but then again, there was a lot of poor
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management decisions going around, so it was just one more, right, So
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yeah, it was it was like you, like you said, it feels
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like so long ago. I almost forget what the heck happened, you know,
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like, I'm sorry, guys, but the ball is not an Uve
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player anymore. And not that I don't care about him, but but he
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would be he would be good, he'd be good. We could Yeah,
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no, for sure, for sure, for sure, Yeah if he if
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he was on you Van, I probably love him and and still be a
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fan of his. But the point the yeah, yeah what two seasons?
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Yeah, second season in Rome. So it feels like a long time ago.
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But I think I think also an issue is we just just generally speaking,
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like just the talent and squad depth is not there. It's not the
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same you as maybe five six years ago. Uh, where you could have
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guys score from from anywhere. You think back that sixteen seventeen team you had,
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you had your your wing backs contributing offensively. Alexandra was good offensively back
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then. Yeah, that was you know, Danny Elvis was great on the
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right side. Obviously, Heguayan was amazing. Valovich is no Heguayan. I
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think, you know, even just having Valovich as a strick, I think
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he's a good player. But I've said it on this podcast many times.
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Mentally, he's he's very weak. Fine, and when he's in a slump,
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he's in a slump. And you saw that even with the penalty against
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against Monsa. I know he just scored against inter and he did twenty eight
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celebrations to try. You know, he thought he was gonna shut his haters
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up. You know, like my guy, there's gonna be haters all the
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time. Let them be Just score goals. That's what you paid all that
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money to do. And then he misses that. It was terrible penalty too
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against Manza misses the rebound when it's right there. It's like, come on,
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man And then it's Rebbio to score off off a corner, like if
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that's a if that's not an embodiment of this year's juve where Volevich can't score
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on two perfect opportunities and then we score on a corner from a midfielder.
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I don't know what is. It was beautiful. It's a beautiful corner.
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I know where you're going with this, Nico Lucia, And you know,
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yeah, no, Luke, Luka was right. Luka was right. He
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knows exactly where I'm going with this. Wow recorded the I will say,
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like you said the sixteen seventeen team, incredibly talented. All of those players,
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could you know, score from anywhere? YadA, YadA, YadA.
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Obviously, all winning cycles come to an end at some point. What I
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see the biggest difference is now is Uvey's youth academy and how many players we
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have coming through the ranks, like good quality players. That is not something
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that I have ever been really used to seeing at UBATE. It's always been
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the big names. You know, We've had a couple of young talented players
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on the on those teams in the past. But now we're like, we're
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I don't want to say we're relying on these young players, but where they've
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got some responsibilities in the team, like Minetti Fudgoli if he was actually playing
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and not gambling. Who else Hans another one, Hans young, Got is
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young, Doujon is freaking young, is young, He's young. They're all
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young players. So twenty five six, I think he might even be younger
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than that. I think he might be twenty four on the mark. Yeah,
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the average age of the squad is not old. I think it's like
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twenty seven something like that. And it's beautiful. It is going to be
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twenty four in February, so he's even younger. That's insane. So yeah,
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no where and the comparison is very clear, you know, like where
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a team in a couple of years back where maybe one maybe one player from
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the youth or not even from the youth, one young player would be incorporated
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in with all these veterans. That was you know, that was the exception.
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You know, like you'd get maybe a Hugani coming in for a copa
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game or even when we brought when we brought in the about like he was
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a young player still, like it wasn't nineteen twenty one, he was still
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in his mid twenties, but that he was the young new player surrounded by
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stars. So you know, things have changed now you're looking at the base
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of it being young. There's still some veterans there, but they're not the
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stars that we used to have. So yeah, there's there's obviously a shift,
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and I mean, I'm happy to see it. I just don't think
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we're well equipped for it at the moment. M Yeah, that's that's a
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good way. And what do you and what and what do you why do
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you say? Why do you say that? Look like you know, well,
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equipped in terms of you got your foundation is cracked or like where do
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you well, this is one yeah, no, this one I solely put
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really on the coach. I mean where we've changed up the management, we're
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bringing in a different transitional you know, uh change now, and I think
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what's what's still left to be changed is that coach, is that thought process,
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is that that mentality. And it's nothing against Max. You know,
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like we go, like I was just talking, we go back to that
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team that had all those veterans, maybe one or two young guys that was
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Max. That was his best time is when he had like you know,
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like just layers and layers of good quality veterans and then maybe one or two
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young guys. Now it's complete opposite. He's you know, he's he's resourcing
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to these young guys to be his core. You know, like when we
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look at pillars of this team, a lot of guys are under the age
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of twenty six that are pillars. And that's that's saying something. So I'm
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not saying Max can't do it. We're seeing him finding some sort of mix,
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but we're also constantly seeing him selecting older, more maybe one dimensional players
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over those younger, more flexible, dynamic players, just because he likes that
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that that that you know, that consistency, likes having a reliability, you
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know. So we're seeing that, and unfortunately we will see departures because of
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that in some really good young talent, you know. So that's I mean
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that that's where I put on the coach. That's where I say, Okay,
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we've got young talent. Maybe it might not work out because of him,
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And it's unfortunate, it really is. I see one of the money
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yeah, yeah, And it seems like we're like we're complaining about it,
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you know, we're complaining about having Max as a coach. But now I
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find right, I mean, just to add on to what like what Lucas
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saying, we're not equipped to really change anything up, and part of that
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is the coaches felt like, why we really haven't seen anything outside of a
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three five two, nothing's really changed because we don't have the we don't have
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the person nell to really change that. You know, like who's gonna who's
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gonna play right back? Really, who's gonna play left back? We're not
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gonna put Sondra there anymore. He doesn't have the legs Bremer can't. Bremer
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can't or hasn't played in a back for ever in his career so far,
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So that's a no go for a back four. And then how do you
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build a team up from that, like if you want to if you want
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to change. So it's like we don't have the personnel because we didn't we
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got financially hampered last season and it's kind of all culminating now. So like
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this is a really like Lucas said, this is a big transitional phase for
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the team as a whole, and like you said, we're going to see
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some young talent get shipped off that we really haven't seen a lot of.
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And my reference for that is Killian Junior. I think he's going to be
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gone a month. Well we agree in December. You're saying you got I
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mean January. Sorry, he's gonna use it yoga. Yeah, yeah,
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I think, Uh, I think we're gonna sacrifice him and bring in a
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midfielder to take over Pougbell or Fagioli's space more likely Popopless place. We definitely,
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yeah, I definitely need that. And you know what I think also,
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like not playing in Europe, Like heading into the season, I was
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like, man, this is gonna be so boring, you know, only
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once a week. But honestly, but the way the team is, it's
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totally okay, It's totally fine. Uh. I can't see how this team
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would have survived playing Europe. They would have been they would have been destroyed.
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It would have been it would have been rough. We probably would have
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seen the U twenty three team out there eventually. But but yeah, uh
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we did get a we didet a question on social media from our friend from
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Nick Deanny, is uh, class such the worst player on you? I
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don't, I don't think. I don't think he is. I don't know
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who is Alexandro. Oh yeah, I mean I would sounds he's the answer,
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like who's the worst? But who's the one player I don't want to
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see you here in the field? I mean, he's the one player I
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don't want to see on the field. It's literally like on the bench.
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That's it. Take our entire roster. Who's one player you do not want
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to see touch the field? Alexandra? I guess you like he's a good
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cheerleader. No. I first love that I love his heart. I love
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that he has the best job in the world. I don't care. With
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some legends he was terrible. I don't care. Who's who's that keeper for
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inter be and what was his name? And these guys they're basically just assistant
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coaches living the dream. Yeah. Credit to them, dude, they've they've
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cracked the system on that one. But the worst Yeah, because he hasn't
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kind of you kind of have that discussion because you can't even Play's part of
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the right part of the team. Where people get confused with Costage being bad.
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It's not so much that he's bad. It's that he's a one trick
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pony. You know, go up the side cross, you know, go
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back, go up the side cross. That's just what he does. But
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he does that well, it's not that he's bad, it's just not nothing
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outside of that it's safe. Yeah. And and this is where you know,
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like I can't stand it, like it bothers me, but I understand
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it, you know, like if that makes sense, Like I said this,
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I said this the birdle the other day on our on our podcast.
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It's it's frustrating, but it's understandable. You know. It's the same thing
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goes with Max and he's his tactics. It's frustrating, but sometimes it's understandable
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when you see the players he has and you know the team he's dealt and
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Costage, Costage is one of them. If he's gonna put Cambiaso on on
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the right side and he's gonna be your you know that that side with got
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to you with, I guess McKenny also doing the invert with Cambiaso. If
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that right side is gonna be your creative, imaginative and you know, risky
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side, Max one hundred percent is gonna want the left side to be solid,
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rigid and you know, very one dimensional. He's not gonna want Costage
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coming into the middle. He's not gonna want him doing you know, rainbows
27:33
on the sideline. It ain't happening. He wants him to go up cross
27:37
the ball and if that doesn't work, run back, defend. That's it.
27:41
And that's exactly what Costage does. So it ain't the worst boy too
27:48
much, he's not that. He's not the worst. He's not. Joe.
27:53
Chris Assent just wants to know what do you use to shine your head?
27:56
Spit shine in question like that? Yes, that's it, that's it.
28:06
I wish I could tell you how it just think I think, honestly,
28:10
just the lighting. I'm just a white magnet. I don't do anything.
28:15
I don't do anything. Uh, buff know nothing? All right,
28:18
all right? We did get a question from all you a cast, so
28:25
I don't know if who has controls on the Instagram account. I don't know
28:27
if it was one of you guys that wrote this. It was probably Burdle
28:30
that I wrote this Instagram. I think I think it was the Instagram account,
28:33
right, Adri, I think this came from Instagram. Yes? Uh?
28:38
Who is winning the school that this year? Has anyone changed their preseason
28:41
predictions? Did I do? Forget who we picked? I want to say
28:47
I picked in because I feel like I have your probas every year. Uh
28:51
has it changed? No? I still think answer is the favorite during the
28:56
school that So I think they have the most squad depth. Sure they need
29:00
that squad squad depth to play in Europe, but they just they just have
29:04
a step up on you for that, and I think they're just gonna last
29:07
longer throughout the season. Do I want you to win the school that one
29:11
hundred set? Do I think they can win the school that dope? Yes?
29:15
But who's the favorite? If I if I was, if I had
29:22
to put money, I wouldn't bet. I can't bet against you. It,
29:23
come on, you're one of the irregular people can't bet on their team.
29:29
If I was a non fan betting money, I guess what. It
29:32
depends what the odds are, you know, if if they if you give
29:34
ship odds, like you know, I don't know what ship odds are?
29:41
Five hundred for intern wins, like, it's not worth it. Just put
29:45
money on you van and try to make a good profit. Yeah, exactly,
29:51
you guys, what do you What do you guys think? I don't
29:55
remember who I picked so long ago. Yeah, I think we we did
30:00
the same thing. Yeah, we sent it in, But I don't I'm
30:03
pretty sure I put inter it. I could go triple checks a long time
30:07
ago, but I might have said us. No, I had a feeling
30:11
it wasn't gonna be going into the season. So I don't know if I
30:14
put US, what I change if I put you put intend like those are
30:21
my two. I think I don't think it's changed. I still think it's
30:25
between those two. So like, I don't know what you guys like.
30:29
I don't know if you guys put a Napoly or you put a you know,
30:33
Roma maybe or you put a Melane. I don't know. For me,
30:37
it was with you the intent and you've for sure and it's still going
30:38
to be between them. So yeah, I think we picked top four,
30:41
didn't we? Luca and I don't remember who I know. I think I
30:47
had Napoly. I don't know if we did like City Op production, the
30:52
productions predictions or if we did uh, you know, just you've had predictions
30:56
because I know there was like top score for you've at top a break out
31:00
like stuff like that. I remember, But I think I did say I
31:04
think I did say Juve because strictly because it's our only competition outside of the
31:11
Corputalia, and like that's that's pretty much it. The squad has talent in
31:17
it, there's no doubt about it. And if Monza is any indicator,
31:23
it's that the team doesn't give up and it has that that attitude of they're
31:33
going to fight for every last win and they will win ugly. They will
31:41
win ugly, and that's what championship teams do, is they win ugly.
31:48
That doesn't necessarily mean that Enter is not a good team and they can't win
31:52
it. I think that it also all depends on how far they get in
31:56
the Champions League, because how much focus are they going to be put on
32:00
that having been the finalists last year? So it's like where where are their
32:06
priorities right now? So that's why I said, That's why I said you
32:09
there, Ad Yeah, No, I think, I mean, I think,
32:20
if I remember correctly, I think you did picking each. I think
32:25
I think Johnny probably picked. I think I probably said you on just as
32:29
my bias. But again, it's it's close at the top, man,
32:31
it's uh, it's you know, it's what six points from first to third,
32:38
so you know the point the points from second to to third is only
32:44
four I believe now, So it's all it's all pretty close. You know,
32:49
I could really see going in the other way. But you know,
32:51
is it as it stands now obviously in the is the most well oiled machine.
32:55
Their ship is is ceiling on a on a good path right now.
33:00
Again, how sustainable is it for? How long can it last? Uh?
33:04
You know we're gonna have to wait. We lost. I had a
33:10
good question for him to God, damn, we're gonna make fun of him
33:14
for his wife. I after there's always one guy. HAPs we could just
33:22
sorry, he picked. Yeah, that's his answer. I know, I
33:28
remember we picked, we predicted top four. I'm gonna have to after this
33:32
episode. I'm gonna have to listen back to that episode. I'm gonna have
33:36
to write it down so that in me we could compare, put it out
33:40
in the tweet and be like, yeah, exactly, here's my tag him
33:45
to like, here's my here's our here's our predictions. And we haven't changed.
33:49
And that's why, and that's why we think Melan is not going to
33:52
finish Top four. A channel we just you know, just went on a
33:53
huge rant. I mean, I had a follow up, but I'm curious
34:01
what you guys think. Correct me if I'm wrong. It's Melan. It's
34:05
in third, right, yeah, yeah, right, considering their why one
34:12
foot out the door in Champions League or they are out, I honestly forget.
34:15
But if if let's say, you know, Intel still has to go
34:20
into a very Champions League heavy end of the season with Copa with City and
34:24
you know it's just you got Juventus and Milan still and let's say second and
34:30
third, and they have no competition besides the Copa Dhiah, things can eat
34:35
up. I mean, what do you guys think on a melan Like it's
34:37
close, it's close, Like I said, you know, from first to
34:42
third is six points, guys, it's not it's not an impossible thing.
34:45
It's not not We have last year that you know, they ran away with
34:50
everything. It was nowhere near reach. Second place was lotso but hey it
34:53
could have been cultural guys FC in second place it went to matter right.
34:57
So yeah, it's it's still all close, it's still in reach. And
35:02
again, how long is this all going to be? Uh, you know,
35:07
possible for for Into to continue on this on this on this path.
35:10
Like I said, you know, they're the most obviously informed. They have
35:14
the depth, they have the ideology there, their ship is sailing in that
35:16
right direction. They're a well oil machine currently. Uh, it's it sustainable
35:22
from you know now till the end of the season. We have to wait
35:24
and see you guys. It's it's a long season still. That's why I
35:29
don't know if I'm gonna say, I'm gonna yeah, maybe I don't.
35:31
Maybe me one doesn't win it, but I don't know if it's already set
35:36
in stone. Yeah, guys, it's going to be in there. Yes,
35:37
they're the favorite. Yes, you know, everything's pointing to their their
35:42
direction, but what are we going into week fifteen? There's thirty eight match
35:46
days. Guys, it's not it's not it's not over just yet in my
35:52
opinion. And that's not me hating. That's not me you know, trying
35:54
to trying to take a knock at Inter. We've said it on the on
35:57
our show plenty of times. Guys, they're the esteem in Italy. They've
36:01
proven to have had some sort of smart business, even though who knows how
36:06
they get this money, how they don't get this money. Are they bankrupt?
36:08
Are they not? Who knows? But hey they you know, they
36:12
added some pieces and they've been quality pieces. They've kept a decent enough core
36:16
together. So yeah, there's not really much you can say in terms of
36:22
hating, in terms in like what's on the field hatred outside of that,
36:25
you know, you don't like Inter. You know, there's the Snakes or
36:28
this or that. Okay that that band to we can have all day.
36:30
But yeah, like obviously you guys know currently they're the favorite, but you
36:37
know there's still two teams you know in the balances. Uh, you know,
36:40
uh, you know, not too far out from them. So it's
36:45
it's if you want to say it, maybe in one phrase, it's probably
36:50
interest to lose. Maybe if you want to have that narrative, that's that's
36:53
who we can have that. We can say that. But but again it's
36:59
for me, it's it's not over, you know, before before this holiday
37:04
time. So that's how I kind of how I see it. What if
37:09
one thing I'll say, if you does want to school that too, it
37:13
will be in a dramatic way and we will absolutely love that. You know
37:16
that. You know that, Mama mean, I will be there no matter
37:20
what. That's gonna be us. Uh uh. But we actually did get
37:25
a question from John Marco from Interviews regarding inter Uh, why are inter the
37:30
superior team? The superior team in every facet of the game and favorite player
37:36
from a rival club you wish you had. Let's start this with the Melane
37:39
fan. Actually, let's start with this with a drano because he hates Interer
37:44
more than anyone else here. So why are into the superior team and every
37:47
facet of the game. We don't get a twisted guys, I'm out numbered
37:52
here on the podcast tonight, but I hate you for it just as much.
37:54
Yeah, maybe not just as much, but maybe I'm not on there,
37:57
but it's pretty much right. No, listen, I said it.
38:04
We said it right. They've they've done. They've brought in over a guy
38:08
like Marotta that has an eye and a half for buying players because we don't
38:14
know where one of his eyes is looking, right, We're not really sure,
38:17
but so he has yeah, like I said, an eye and no
38:22
meds meds ie right, Uh, to work for players and so far that
38:27
that you know method has has proven to work. So uh, they bring
38:31
over him. I'm not a fan of Limoni and Zagi his brother absolutely holds
38:37
it the portion in my heart. But Limoni I'm a big fan of.
38:42
But hey, he's been able to get this this inter to levels that we
38:46
didn't probably think would happen under under him. What has he really done?
38:52
What does he want? Cop itally? Okay? Sure, the VATCHO experience
38:55
had a good time. Comes over the inter last year. The guys they
38:59
were in the time in the final. Nobody expected that to happen. And
39:01
this is coming from a fan that you know, obviously we can't stand in
39:05
there. But they've done smart business. Right, they brought him pieces.
39:09
It's hard when you lose. Like I said earlier, they kept more or
39:15
less a core, but again they still lost pieces, right, you know,
39:17
you lose your striker, you lose your goalie in the same window or
39:22
same couple of windows, and you know they replaced them adequately summer. He's
39:29
no slouch in my opinion. I know people might have said otherwise, but
39:32
listen, he comes to play for for Switzerland. Every time he's called upon,
39:37
uh you know, a club level, he was always top in my
39:43
eyes. Again and follow his career, but he was always a standout keeper.
39:46
So hey, good business there. You know, made a profit,
39:52
so that that was good, you know, and Lucaku out they're bringing to
39:57
Rum and what has torn done. He's per provided uh you know, goals,
40:00
he's provided assists, he's provided stability up top alongside Lato Martinez. So
40:08
I would say, you know, those are those are those are the reasons
40:10
they have the depth. They've had it pieces, they kept somewhat of a
40:14
core. This is year I don't even know now under in Zogie a couple
40:16
of years now they've been under in Zogie. So this cycle has kind of
40:21
been building, been brewing and when you have that foundation and when you have
40:24
you know things, you know your your piece is moving in the right direction.
40:29
These are kind of why the inter fans are the final black club kind
40:32
of they come out of the wood works now now they're all the chest is
40:37
like this, They're like, look, could this chest now right now?
40:40
They come out before they were nowhere to be found. So joking aside,
40:45
guys, you know they're rightfully so they have their chest out and I don't
40:51
want to know the inter fans that come attack me, guys, it's all
40:53
it's all in good fun. But that's that's the reality of it. Smart
40:59
business. They've they've had a cycle going, kept somewhat of a core,
41:01
added pieces, you know, they've just I wouldn't say, like obviously there's
41:09
been bumps in the road, but they've done a lot of things correctly to
41:14
get to this point. And it's not an overnight thing, as we can
41:17
say. And yeah, that's kind of how I see it. Why they're
41:22
they're superior team currently. Does it help that some of the other teams around
41:25
them aren't doing maybe the best that they can be doing. Yeah, that
41:30
helps in saying why in there so so good when you've was so dominant nine
41:36
years. Where was the rest of Seria, guys, It was in the
41:37
gutter, It was in the garbage. There was no real competition to them.
41:43
It's not saying that they didn't take advantage of their opportunity and run with
41:45
it. Good on them in there, you know, kind of trying to
41:50
do the same in terms of, you know, separating themselves from from the
41:53
competition. So with all that being said, I think it's kind of why
41:58
maybe they're the superior team. But I thought we were gonna watch that question
42:00
and kind of go to the second part of the question because the second part
42:02
of the question is actually a good one. I actually liked that part of
42:06
the question. So I'll let you guys run with that first before I give
42:08
my answers. But yeah, Joe Marco, you know, it's all Love
42:12
Interviews podcast. Give Michelle give him a listen. Good, good guys over
42:15
that that was shorty, you know me, guys, it's it's always a
42:24
long story, short, but it becomes a long story instead of the short
42:28
stories. Joe, Joe Andrew said it, said it perfectly. You know,
42:37
they had somewhat of a foundation already. They it all just comes down
42:44
to good business. It comes down to bet Bay goddamn. But the one
42:50
player who I would I always wanted was I want both trams on you that
42:58
you know. I love Marcus Turam and his brother, but yeah, those
43:05
would be He would be the one guy that I would want from a rival
43:09
team him. But obviously i'd bring you balla back. But that's that good
43:17
show, good shot. Okay, you first part of the question. I
43:23
don't think INT are like the best in every face st I think they're not.
43:30
They're they're a good team, but I still think there's parts where they're
43:34
not. They're still not the best. So I'm not going to give them
43:37
all the props surprised all you guys just let that one side. But yeah,
43:42
they're well rounded. I'll give them that, but I think there's there's
43:46
aspects that could use. I think the midfield is bar none above the rest
43:51
of the league, and that's really what sets them apart. And believe it
43:54
or not, I give a lot of props to their flanks and uh,
43:58
they're you know, they're we want to call them full backs, wing backs
44:00
and in case, which are a word you prefer, But they've got you
44:04
know easily guys who could be starting who are basically on the bench. So
44:08
to me, that's insane. And it's been like that for the last three
44:12
four years. So no matter what position information they were playing, whether it
44:15
was Zagi or Conte, more or less still a three five to two.
44:19
Those guys in the flanks were just animals, so good business. I think
44:23
they got a great midfield and great flanks, so mean to me, those
44:28
are their strongest fastts play wise. Sorry Nick, going through the player.
44:32
Are we doing of all time or like right now currently? And it doesn't
44:39
have to be anything you want any I'm gonna do current because I think it's
44:44
more. I think that's more. He was aiming for one hundred percent.
44:46
I would take fat Daisy, yep. I was mad we lost out to
44:52
him. Whatever that's for me. I'll start. I'll start with the second
44:59
part. Lottaro. I talk about him a lot on the show. I
45:02
praise him a lot. I think he's an amazing striker. He's someone who
45:07
you know, when he came into the city, he was criticized a bit,
45:09
and rightfully so. He was not great. He was good, but
45:14
not great for the first couple of years and He's really come into his own
45:16
the last year two years. And you know, if I could pick anyone
45:22
in the city right now, it would have to be him for sure.
45:25
I think it would be massive upgrade a striker, you know. Regarding inter
45:31
I think it's their depth and you know, like you, like you guys
45:36
mentioned even just the midfield is just so good and in a way it reminds
45:39
you of Uve when they had their dominance. You know, they always had
45:44
such a strong midfield, and then they started falling off when their midfield got
45:47
weaker. And so you know that the midfield is a key part of the
45:52
team and and you see that within there. So I you know, between
45:57
that and the depth, I think they really dominate. Uh not really coming
46:00
up on Friday, I didn't I didn't answer the second part of the question.
46:04
You never answered the second part. Okay, sorry, Drive literally waited.
46:08
I gave you the guys before. Uh no joking aside, you know,
46:15
rival, who would you take from a rival? And I mean,
46:17
I guess anybody in study has becomes a rival if you want to go nitty
46:21
gritty, Okay, in the direct rival maybe, But for me, I
46:25
would take I would take Victor Osuman for for for Milan, if I,
46:30
if I would have to if to choose just him and Layau and whoever wants
46:36
to put on the wing on the right side. Each doesn't really matter,
46:42
uh that for me, we need a striker that's not named Olivi. You
46:46
do and I level a lot, but he's not getting any younger. Uh.
46:52
It's you know where you know Yovich he has he scored and assists over
46:55
the weekend, but he hasn't done nothing. Camarada just come out of that
47:00
is that is then is the new name on the block. Fifteen years young,
47:04
beautiful history, that's the history was made, Uh, you know with
47:07
with with that game there. But you know, we need a we need
47:12
an outstriker young, who's dynamic, who can score goals, who can you
47:16
can pretty much do it all. And Osi man since he's come into this
47:21
league, he's been he's been dominant. Obviously last year he had the season
47:24
of his life. That's that's it was. It was an amazing thing.
47:29
But yeah, man, if if I would have to really choose and kind
47:31
of like go away from what you guys said, and you know nick Ovis
47:37
he had with Lattaro. But if I had to chrew somebody else. Besides
47:39
that, as a striker, I would definitely go Osiman's way, just because
47:44
I can just just imagine and dream to have somebody like that point at the
47:47
number nine position and a milan and yeah, it wouldn't be somewhat some of
47:52
a breath of fresh air, not to only depend on a guy like like
47:55
Olivia who at thirty seven years old. So yeah, for me would be
48:00
Victorissimo for sure. Okay, now we can move on to the Napoli Tan
48:05
was a perfect transition, perfect transition, talk about he meant uh not believe
48:13
a last time he didn't go? So last time was on a Friday too?
48:16
Or I'm trying to remember when they played it in Torino last year?
48:23
Was it was it in the first half of the season. I already forget,
48:27
see I already forget. Or was in the second half. I just
48:30
remember that Friday game where they got killed, like what was it five to
48:32
one? Uh? Last January? So another Friday game, this time it's
48:38
in uh Chirino. You guys have any expectations for this? I'm expecting de
48:49
Lorenzo not to make an appearance. I've been reading a lot of reports that
48:52
he's been sidelined with an injury. Exactly what I forget. This monopolie team
49:01
isn't what we thought that they were going to be. At the start of
49:05
the season. Rudy Garcia kind of did a number on them, and here
49:12
we are there with Valti Mezzari now return trip for him and it you know,
49:23
I was going to say that it was it would be a little bit
49:29
easier, but you really you don't want to. You want to, you
49:32
don't want to be sleeping on this npolite team. They can still do damage.
49:36
They can still score goals, that is for damn sure. They can
49:40
score goals like it's no one's business. The one week spot that I see,
49:46
and I think that you guys might agree with me, is the defense
49:51
isn't what it used to be. So that's something that I'm hoping you can
49:55
capitalize on a little bit. And I I'm gonna I'm not gonna give any
50:02
number of predictions on it, like right now, but I don't foresee another
50:08
five to one sort of happening. I think that Uve is smarter this time
50:14
around, at least by the way, before we get to Luca uh that
50:20
was the first meeting between the two teams last year and then afterwards Intrino Monopoly
50:24
did beat You've one nothing. You've hasn't beatenopotly since April twenty twenty one.
50:29
That's for four games, haven't beaten in them, three wins Monopoly and a
50:32
draw. Yeah, there's no slouch. There's no slouch of an opponent.
50:39
You just can't. We gotta we. We can't fall asleep against them.
50:46
We can't. And the one thing I also don't want us to do is
50:49
just sit back and absorb pressure. I know that we've been doing that and
50:52
we have to anticipate that that's gonna happen. But you know, we got
50:57
to put them a little bit on their toes, you know, keep them
51:00
off balance. Muca, Yes, Jesus. I mean, looking back,
51:12
I think, and I think I might have spoken to this already, And
51:15
this is why I'm going to kind of repeat myself looking back at our INTI
51:19
performance, nothing great, nothing exceptional, But I think if there was a
51:23
team that really brought fear into my my eyes, into my mind besides monso
51:30
obviously, because that that if I, if I say it too loud,
51:32
then we get it get shared again. So I mean, I look back
51:38
at the entire game, I think, okay, we we we held on
51:40
pretty well easily against you know, the top team in the league in my
51:45
opinion, wasn't great, wasn't terrible. My thoughts now looking a monopoly.
51:50
Defensively, they're not what they were last year. And if our offense if
51:53
big freakin' if you're if our offense decides to show up, it could be
51:59
either a very similar game to the entire where it's tight and ends in a
52:01
draw, or we might get lucky and get the advantage. What I know
52:06
for sure is that if we do like we did against Manza, We're not
52:09
We're not gonna get very far because it's still an appoty team that could bang
52:14
three four goals in a game. All it takes is for one, not
52:20
even all three, one of their three, you know, four players to
52:22
be in the mood. They have that ability. So I have faith more
52:30
so than I did last year. But you know, anything can happen.
52:34
Like Joe said, don't sleep on this team. It's still still a team
52:37
that you know, just came off to scudet to wind. They still got
52:40
very lethal players. So yeah, that's my thought. Yeah, I I
52:49
I think it's gonna be a tough game. It's never easy against Napoli.
52:54
We see, you know, as I said, it's been over two years
52:59
since we beating beating them. They've had a number in that time span.
53:04
Obviously them, they're coming off the loss against Inter, so you know,
53:07
you could make an argument that they're hungry, but you could also make an
53:10
argument, oh, look, you know Inter beat them through nothing. You've
53:14
a tight inter logically speaking, you they should Benopoli. Now that's not true.
53:20
Yeah, Like even you know, with this coaching change with Garcia coming
53:22
in, we always see teams play well after coaching change. You know,
53:27
we saw them get that win against what was it against Verona or or was
53:31
it the win against Celernitana? I forget after the change. Oh sorry,
53:36
Garcia coming in, Mantarti coming in, Garcia left. But we haven't really
53:43
seen that from Monopoly yet. Sure they did beat Atalanta to win, but
53:47
to one. But the last two games, you know, lose against Real
53:52
fine, disrespectable, lose against Inter whatever. I just have a feeling like
53:57
they're gonna come out guns blazing, like this is this is against Juventus,
54:01
this is a team and second in place right now. They're they're battling for,
54:05
you know, to get into a top four spot. Uh, it's
54:08
gonna be tough. I'm really interested. I don't think it's gonna be a
54:14
high scoring game. I think it'll be a classic, you know, one,
54:15
nothing to one type of type of game. I do think just because
54:19
it is in to Reno that youve does have that home field advantage more if
54:23
it was a game in Innapoly, I'd be a bit more nervous. I
54:28
still expect you've to come out and win. But it's not gonna be easy
54:34
whatsoever. It's gonna be a tough match. It's gonna be a bit like
54:36
the intermatch. Honestly, if you've a, if you've A scores more than
54:39
one goal in this game, I'll honestly be shocked even with that. So
54:45
you know, like Joe, I'm not gonna give a predict an exact score
54:47
line, but I do obviously I hope you've comes out with the win.
54:53
I think I think just to say, like I mean, for for Anapo's
54:57
sake, I mean, for when Mazi comes came in, it's it was
55:00
he did. He didn't get put into a great situation. The schedule to
55:04
come into was obviously really really tough. And it's no you know, making
55:08
about excuses this and that, but it was just the reality. You know,
55:13
point Atalanta, you int pointing, uh real Madrid, not point you.
55:20
I mean, you know, it's not an easy easy thing to come
55:23
into, very barely any time to you know, be at the squad and
55:27
he's getting thrown into the situation and and these are the cards he's dealt.
55:30
So obviously the game against uh inter Fornopoly was was was definitely uh, you
55:37
know, a big pill the swallow it was you know, it was a
55:39
score line that wasn't pretty. Was it just was it where they rob you
55:45
know, was there ar okay whatever, that's a whole different thing. But
55:50
again the score line said read nothing. It's not an easy pill to swallow.
55:52
Now you go against Uvent it's another you know, direct rival. So
55:57
yeah, like like Nick said, I think they couldn't come out hot,
56:00
they could come out hungry. Uh you know, uh, you just want
56:04
to see a good game. These these are the games. I just want
56:06
to see a good, good, good game, good cultural match. And
56:09
you know, these are two top teams in this league, no matter where
56:14
they are on the on on the uh, in the rankings and the on
56:17
the table. There you know, they're still two top teams capable of big
56:22
things, and it's I think it's gonna be another an, another good game.
56:27
You know. I don't know score line, I don't know this.
56:30
I don't know who's gonna score. What minute? Is this guy gonna get
56:31
a yellow card? I don't know, guys, I don't care. I
56:35
just want to see a good match. It's always for these big matches.
56:39
I always say, is that you want to see you know, best eleven
56:43
against best eleven when we see that this week on Friday. I don't know
56:47
the injury report. You know, Joe said a bit about you know,
56:50
de Lorenzel maybe missing time their captain, so and they're already missing pieces with
56:54
you know, their left box situations, uh, you know, decimated by
56:57
injuries. So makeshift makeshift defense for notp is maybe obviously, like you guys
57:02
said, the biggest uh, you know, the biggest thing to look out
57:07
for and biggest worry for them. But again, there their midfield I still
57:10
think is quality. You know when they're on there there there there are they
57:15
are quality on GISA, you know, Labodka they're still are quality players.
57:17
In my eyes, you have top, you have as man now back you
57:23
know, whoever wants to play on the right side, if it be a
57:27
Poeton, wel Mass, whatever, there's still quality on on the squad.
57:30
And you know, same thing for you. So we'll see which team comes
57:35
out in terms of not we hany of it because we all know that it
57:38
could be either or it could be the good you've in the good not or
57:42
the body you've in the badon not way show out. So listen, it's
57:47
it's in Tourno, right, guys. Is that is that what you guys
57:50
said? That's it's it's in Torino. Yeah, yeah, right, So
57:52
it's in Torino. And again you know these big teams that are terrible at
58:00
home and don't make like there's been a bit of time now that you is
58:04
kind of you know, the the aura point at the Alliance is not what
58:07
it used to be. Like. People are not afraid to go to Juva
58:09
anymore. They're not They're not afraid like they were, Like we were saying
58:14
earlier in the podcast, guys, you know four or five, six years
58:16
ago, it used to be afraid to go to the Allians. Uh,
58:21
and to put event is now it's maybe not that same fear. Teams can
58:24
be like you know what, ones that like you said, we said last
58:27
year earlier and looking back last year onnes that beat them twice, right,
58:31
so you know, teams are not really afraid anymore. It's a shame when
58:36
you can't keep your your home turf a fortress. I can't stand when you
58:42
know, when that happens from you on it and they don't make Sancio that
58:44
fortress, same thing for you of it. They don't make the Alians that
58:46
fortress like it once was. So that means they have to come out and
58:51
play. They were able to I wouldn't say totally figure out in because I
58:58
don't know if if they figured them out decently enough. But again it was
59:01
a game where it was they went up, but then they concede it right
59:05
away. So it was one of those games where it had a draw written
59:07
all over it. So but hey, they were able to stifle. Like
59:12
we all said, the best team innute the weak currently, so we'll see.
59:15
I think it's going to be a good game. Hopefully it's a good
59:17
game even just for the casual. It's a good game to tune into on
59:22
a Friday. And yeah, because again there's lots of implications on this as
59:27
well, and they brought it up earlier, you know, the not we're
59:30
kind of slipping a bit in form, kind of dropping a bit out of
59:32
well. I think they're only a point or two out of out of top
59:36
four currently, if I'm not mistaken. It's not where they want to be.
59:39
Obviously, Jove currently sitting second game, but you know, even then
59:44
they're not really safe at that position. So there's a lot riding on this
59:46
game. If it ends in a draw and everything else pans out in their
59:52
favorite nothing changes, just like happened for The Dead, you know, there
59:55
was a draw one to one and nothing changed in the In this coubeto rays
59:59
nothing changed in the table. So we'll see if things change come Friday and
1:00:04
come after this weekend. So yeah, excite to see how that kicks off.
1:00:09
Guys. I think, you know, we could talk about a game
1:00:14
on Friday, but we could also talk about three games in June, moving
1:00:17
away from Italy. We found out the draw on the weekend for your twenty
1:00:22
twenty four. We know who they're playing. They got drawn with Spain Croatia
1:00:28
and Albinia in Group B. They were in Pot four, so we knew
1:00:32
that they were going to have at least one strong team. You know,
1:00:36
being drawn with Croatia is another negative, but guys, anything could happen.
1:00:42
How do you guys? First of all, how are you feeling about Italy
1:00:45
being back in a major tournament, being back part of the festivities of the
1:00:49
draws and everything. Not to die He's like, yeah, it's just like
1:00:59
it's like we I mean something, we need something to give us something.
1:01:05
It's like, yeah, oh no, I'm happy. I'm happy we're going
1:01:10
to be defending the title. It's it's good to see the draw. On
1:01:15
the other hand, it could be a banana peal the whole thing. All
1:01:21
of those teams could. I'm not confident about this Italy's euro title defense.
1:01:30
I'll put it that way. Okay. All those teams are are tough.
1:01:34
There's no guarantees in that group. Uh and Italy notoriously starts off very very
1:01:40
slow in group stages, just going back through the years, so it's it's
1:01:49
going to be hard. It's going to be hard. Hopefully Spotty can can
1:01:54
work something out, but I don't know. I'm not really optimistic. Okay,
1:02:02
okay, look at yo, gosh. I mean, listen, I
1:02:08
saw that group. I've let my thoughts know. I'm like very quickly to
1:02:14
our group, chat to the feed, and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get
1:02:17
eating alive for it if I say here now and your listeners hear it.
1:02:22
But it's fine, that's what I'm here for. I don't think we'll even
1:02:25
make it out of the group. To be very friend with you guys,
1:02:29
I'm glad we made it in, but we did it by you know,
1:02:32
the skin of our balls. Like it was like, excuse my French,
1:02:36
but it really was ridiculous to think that we had a rivalry going with North
1:02:42
Macedonia, like that's what that's where we're at. And then even beating Ukraine
1:02:46
or even getting past Ukraine was a feat on its own. So to think
1:02:52
that we got to go up against actual serious European teams. Again, this
1:02:58
isn't twenty twenty one anymore. Like I don't have we don't have that back
1:03:01
line, we don't have that magic, you know. Just I'm glad we
1:03:07
made it. I'm hopeful. I really I'm hoping we make it maybe second
1:03:14
in the group, but it's not looking great, like I think we'll actually
1:03:17
we might beat Spain. The others I don't know, like Spain because of
1:03:22
the toughest one I'm a beating for some reason and the rest will lose.
1:03:24
Like that's just how I see it. I don't know. My first reaction
1:03:31
was the opposite. I think I think they're going through. I think also,
1:03:34
you know, Lucas, it's important to remember that third place teams could
1:03:37
still make it through. You know, sixteen of the twenty four teams in
1:03:42
the Euros are going through, so only eight teams getting eliminated from the knockout
1:03:46
stage. Ah, so if you're betting man it'll least, you're betting that
1:03:52
it'll it'llly qualify somehow for the next time. Regardless, I do think Italy
1:03:58
could not make it through. I think they could even top to the group.
1:04:01
It's going to require perfect games against Spain and Croatia. If there's a
1:04:08
game that I think I wouldn't put in them as favorites, definitely the Spin
1:04:11
game. I know they've beaten them in recent Euros. It's what I think
1:04:15
it's gonna be, like six straight Euros they've played speed so twenty twenty four
1:04:18
to twenty twenty they played in the semifinals. Twenty sixteen quarterfinals, twenty twenty
1:04:24
twelve they played each other twice, and then two thousand and eight the quarterfinals.
1:04:28
That's a sixth that I didn't know that. That's what's crazy is that
1:04:31
they played each other in the in each of their first games in Euro twenty
1:04:34
twelve, and then in the final. I absolutely love that. And then
1:04:38
bout Euro twenty felt that's twenty three different game. Yeah, yeah, and
1:04:42
then and then what's funny is this is almost the exact same group as Euro
1:04:45
twenty twelve. Takeout, you know, swap Ireland for Albinia. This is
1:04:50
the same group Italy, Spain and Croatia. The creation game is is the
1:04:55
last one. I think. I think that you know, winner will probably
1:04:58
it will probably be a a winner take all game. That that. I'd
1:05:02
like that Italy plays Albedia first, because that's definitely the game you need to
1:05:06
win. Uh. And I like that it's in Doormant, so bringing back
1:05:10
memories from two thousand and six where Grosso and del Pierro scored those big goals
1:05:15
against Germany. But yeah, like the fact that they're actually against strong teams
1:05:21
could help. Like you mentioned, Luka, they're they're gonna step up their
1:05:26
game, you know, you know, I agree with with Joe also that
1:05:30
they're slow starters. They weren't like that in Euro twenty twenty, just because
1:05:33
they were playing at home. They did do well. They want to perform
1:05:36
in front in front of the home crowd. But for sure in past tournaments
1:05:41
it is the case. Are they going to defend the title? Probably not.
1:05:45
I don't see them winning. You know, you could have made the
1:05:48
argument three years ago, you could have made the we did make the argument
1:05:50
that would they would win. I don't know if we have that same uh,
1:05:55
that same feeling this time around. But at the end of the day,
1:05:58
it's seven games. You need get hot for a month and anything could
1:06:00
happen. As well said listen, you know the draws are going to be
1:06:05
the draws. You get what you get. We bear, like Lucas said,
1:06:10
we got in the skin of our balls and you know, just just
1:06:14
it was the penalty guys on Christante, we're gonna hear, We're gonna admit
1:06:16
it again. It was we got we we you know that, said d
1:06:20
You know something went our way. Finally you know, so, so that
1:06:26
did happen, but hey, we're in. That's all that matters. We
1:06:30
got the draw, we got who we got, and this is what it
1:06:31
is. So my my be worried about the group. Uh not really.
1:06:38
I mean for me, this is not again, you don't want to say,
1:06:42
this is not the Italy of you know, twenty twenty. It is
1:06:44
also on the same Croatia, you know, the Spain. You know,
1:06:46
Spain is Spain. Spain is always gonna be Spain. They're always gonna be
1:06:49
tough. But again, like Italy does in tournaments, you know, they
1:06:55
play up to their opponents, so you know, they they you know,
1:07:00
against these tough teams. Right, it was, oh my god, it
1:07:01
was gonna get smashed. So that you know, they come out and play,
1:07:05
they show why, you know why they wear the blue in these tournaments.
1:07:10
You know why they're proud to be Italian and play at the highest of
1:07:13
levels, at the biggest of competition. So we'll be nerve racking, absolutely,
1:07:18
or I'll be going crazy for sure. That's that's without a giving.
1:07:21
But I'm excited, man, I'm honestly excited to see what happens. I
1:07:27
don't I do think they could get out of this group. Yes, I
1:07:29
do think so. When they come first, I'm not ready to say that
1:07:32
yet. I would probably say they probably come in second. But can they
1:07:39
beat Albania? Should they beat Albania? Yes? Can they beat Croatia?
1:07:43
Should they beat Croatia Yes? In my opinion. Can they beat Spain?
1:07:48
And should they beat Spain? That's where it's more fifty to fifty. But
1:07:51
hey again, like I just said, you know, Italy comes out to
1:07:54
play against these big teams. It's a smaller ones. The North Macedonia rivalries
1:07:58
that we have. That that's where they don't come out to play. We
1:08:00
missed a penalty, we do that, you know. It's it's all these
1:08:03
things. So I'm excited. You know, Spalletti got us over that line.
1:08:11
He always handed the button. This was like a relay race. Here
1:08:14
he was handed the baton from Mancini. It slipped. If he fumbled the
1:08:18
button, he had to pick it up. And now he drove us to
1:08:21
the to the finish line to bring us to Europe twenty twenty four. He
1:08:25
brought us there so far. We'll see where they go. Defending it's always
1:08:29
going to be tough. This I don't know it's not you know, it's
1:08:32
not the uh you know mid two thousands early ten Spain where they had their
1:08:38
dominance, and I don't see us being that. But again, anything as
1:08:43
possible in tournament football. Uh. You know, Italy in tournament football is
1:08:47
always wants to watch. So and listen, you know what totus as under
1:08:53
I don't care. We're not the favorites. We know we're not the favorites.
1:08:57
We won. Yes, we're the champions, we're reigning champions. We
1:08:59
have the opper to defend our championship, our championship. You know, I'm
1:09:04
glad, but you know Pegas as the underdogs. Pegasays, we're not gonna
1:09:10
make it this good. We eat that up, We eat that up and
1:09:13
and and we'll and we'll go we'll go forward. So I have no problem
1:09:16
you know, being the underdog in in this tournament. People are gonna continue
1:09:20
to ship on other way. For me, I don't care, keep on
1:09:23
shitting on them. And these are Italians or non Italians. I don't like.
1:09:27
We get shipped from both ends. So for me, I don't care.
1:09:30
You can I support them, I don't give a fuck. Like I
1:09:32
don't care Italians want to share on us niney talients want to share on us
1:09:36
the media. We'll soak it out in and we'll see how fre we go.
1:09:41
Because I don't think there's really much expectation for the squad anyways, So
1:09:45
we have to make that expectation going into this, going into this tournament.
1:09:50
There is still some time obviously until then, Spoletti does have some time now
1:09:56
to kind of Okay, I got I got through qualification. I'm We're in
1:09:59
the tournament, and now this is this is my this is my Italy,
1:10:01
this is my aduity, this is my uh, you know, approach to
1:10:04
to go forward with this national team. So we uh, we're gonna have
1:10:09
to wait and see again. Like Nick said, you gotta get hot for
1:10:13
for seven games within the month span or so. So it's it's it's definitely
1:10:16
possible. How far they can go again is a conversation that will probably continue
1:10:20
to have in the in the in the build up until until the tournament starts.
1:10:25
But I'm excited, man. It's it's it's been too long since we
1:10:29
haven't seen Italy in a tournament, right, So, you know, the
1:10:32
summer of twenty twenty one was a memorable one for us just as a you
1:10:35
know, just as content creators, uh putting out you know, a podcast
1:10:40
called social media content. It was it was huge for us interactions, uh
1:10:44
you know, in person obviously getting together at at bars, cafes, you
1:10:48
know, to watch these games. Your child has been one of them here
1:10:50
in the city. So yeah, man, like we want that atmosphere.
1:10:56
Again, this is not a winter World Cup. This is a summer euro
1:11:00
which we hope to to have good memories once again like we did a couple
1:11:04
of years ago and just in the past with Italy and tournaments. So we'll
1:11:09
block out the noise for now, but in a short I'm obviously excited and
1:11:13
yes we can get out of this group. Do you guys think this is
1:11:15
the group of death in the tournament? I thinkuess go first. But yeah,
1:11:23
that's a good question, sure, because it's it's not like what other
1:11:30
what other group has three major players in it, you know, like exactly
1:11:34
three big teams exactly. Group A Germany, Scotland, Hungary, Switzerland,
1:11:40
Group CS, Slovadia and Denmark, Serbia, England, Group D playoff inner
1:11:45
winner A, Netherlands, Austria, France, U E, Belgian, Slovakia,
1:11:49
Romania, and then f Turkey playoff winner, Cee, Portugal, Czech
1:11:55
Republic. I yeah, some one has like some yeah, some France.
1:12:02
Yeah, Netherlands are back in the tournament. You can make a case Austria
1:12:05
guys actually give us trouble tournament a goal, right, So, but I
1:12:10
wouldn't say that's really a group of death because again, no, I don't
1:12:13
know, but even even ours like is a group of death? Like it
1:12:16
depends who you ask. I mean, it's it's really for me to toss
1:12:20
up to say it's a group of death. In my opinion, it's definitely
1:12:24
the best group in the tournament. But does that make it a group of
1:12:27
death? I don't know, you know, especially now where the third place
1:12:30
team could make it through. This is could easily be a group where the
1:12:32
third place team makes it through. Yeah yeah that's true. You know,
1:12:36
so even for me honestly, one like like you said, Adri, the
1:12:45
France group, Netherlands, Austria, France. You know those are three good
1:12:47
teams. And then you know the playoff is between Poland, Estonia, Wales
1:12:53
and Finland, so realistically best team there, let's say Poland makes it.
1:12:57
That makes it a good group. Yeah, that makes a group group even
1:13:00
the group even group F where it's Turkey, Portugal, Czech Republic. The
1:13:03
playoffs playoffs ers Georgia, Luxembourg, Greez and Kazakhstan. We know Georgia is
1:13:10
they're a rising country right now. They're definitely the favorite to make it out
1:13:14
of that playoff. Uh and if they do, like not that between Turkey,
1:13:19
Georgia, Portugal and Czech Republic are four top top top teams, but
1:13:24
they're a bit more evenly matching it. You know, that would be a
1:13:27
group that anybody could win. But we have to wait for the the these
1:13:30
playoff playoffs to happen in UH in March. Oh, guys, thank you
1:13:36
so much for coming. Do you guys have any other thoughts about this tournament
1:13:42
or Juvey in general, anything you want to say to our find you a
1:13:46
listeners. Let's just buckle up for Friday. Yeah, just it's it's going
1:13:55
to be rough. Yeah, my little life. When it's at the end
1:14:00
of the party. I gave it all. What do you want. It's
1:14:08
gonna be hard, So just batten down the hashes, that's all I gotta
1:14:13
say. Yeah, get get the whiskey ready because you're gonna need it on
1:14:15
a Friday afternoon the rocks. But no like Nick's dad and I know Johnny
1:14:21
feels the same. You couldn't be here tonight, but a week to wait.
1:14:26
But again it was a well uh you know, well waited return to
1:14:30
have to have you guys on and we thank you again for for sticking with
1:14:33
us, for being flexible, for for being available. Uh you know,
1:14:38
uh two weeks basically two weeks in a row. We're ready to come on
1:14:41
and uh you're able to We're able to make it happen tonight, you know,
1:14:45
buckle out for Friday. Uh half optimistic, half not optimistic. For
1:14:49
Italy. We we we love all, we love, all the commentary,
1:14:53
all the knowledge. Guys. We really do appreciate your time. If people
1:14:57
don't know already, where can we find you guys personally as a collective for
1:15:01
all the good stuff that you do for for U fans and just the cultural
1:15:05
community as a whole. The four is yours to plug anything you guys want,
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So we gotta plug the the podcast that's gotta plug them. You gotta
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plug them. They're the reason why, part of the reason why we're here,
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and part of the reason why even though Luca beginning with you gotta plug
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you VA Casts. You can find me at Joe Cappuccino on Twitter, and
1:15:35
uh, yeah, that's that's it. That's it for for me, Luca.
1:15:40
I know you've got stuff from the work, so I'm not gonna start
1:15:44
plugging personal stuff. This is soccer only, God show stuff only. So
1:15:49
up appreciated Joe norm Man, I appreciate it. Yeah. Uh, find
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the all UVA cast on Twitter, the A j A c uh and follow
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Joe because he's got some great content and follow these beautiful men right here to
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my right. Johnny's out here, so don't follow him. Yeah, he's
1:16:11
perfectly final. Yeah, thank you guys for having us. I think that's
1:16:15
that's all we got. No Again, like we said earlier, the defense
1:16:19
is all ours, the players all ours. You know, we're meaning to
1:16:23
make it happen. Like I said, we were able to do so,
1:16:26
so we're just happy to to to have it happen. Now. There was
1:16:30
a lot to talk about. We we had a good episode, so again
1:16:32
we do appreciate it. So guys, definitely give these guys a follow,
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1:16:43
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yeah, no, great content always, uh you know, and I'm saying
1:16:51
this as a as a meanister, guys, I'm praising the ug here on
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the show, but you know, joking aside and by society, it's it's
1:16:59
just it's good quality content for for not only you fans, but I think
1:17:02
even just the neutral or the outsider or the non neuve fan to to kind
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of you know, get another you grasp of things. And uh, you
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know, quality content is no matter who you know, what it's about.
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stuff. And yeah we'll be back next week to talk about more culture.
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Thanks for listening, joh