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Sir Trevor McDonald Returns to the Case of Beverly Allitt - the Killer Nurse · History Dark

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  Speaker 1: No matter what you say, I'm sticking to my story.
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  Speaker 2: I did not do it.
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  Speaker 3: This is the childlike voice of one of Britain's most
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  Speaker 3: prolific serial killers.
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  Speaker 4: I just can't get it through to nobody.
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  Speaker 5: I am not bloody lying.
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  Speaker 3: I won't do it. Now, 25 years after I reported
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  Speaker 3: on her conviction, we're able to shed new light on
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  Speaker 3: the case of the killer nurse Beverly Allitt, the so-called
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  Speaker 3: Angel of Death.
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  Speaker 6: You're a bitch!
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  Speaker 3: You're a liar!
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  Speaker 7: You're a liar!
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  Speaker 3: In 1991, 22-year-old Alec murdered four children and attacked nine
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  Speaker 3: others in her care. Her surviving victims are now ready
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  Speaker 3: to speak about their experiences, some for the first time.
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  Speaker 3: What frightens you now? You think that the nurse might
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  Speaker 3: be coming back for me? I meet the man who
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  Speaker 3: brought her to justice against the odds.
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  Speaker 8: One very senior officer said to me, you're chasing rainbows.
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  Speaker 3: And for the first time, I'm able to hear and
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  Speaker 3: share with those involved tapes of Beverly Allitt's police interviews.
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  Speaker 1: No matter what you say, no matter how much you
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  Speaker 1: don't believe me, and I know you don't, I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: Revealing to victims new facts about her case.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't really know about that bit.
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  Speaker 3: And examining why she did what she did.
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  Speaker 9: It might be a much, much darker thing, which is
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  Speaker 9: the act of killing... is enormously exciting.
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  Speaker 3: Finally, in revisiting this case, I discover new evidence that
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  Speaker 3: suggests Alec may have faked her way out of prison
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  Speaker 3: and into the relative comfort of a secure hospital.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever Beverly Alec wants, she will manipulate to try and get.
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  Speaker 10: She's a child murderer. She's been living the life of
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  Speaker 10: Riley in there.
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  Speaker 11: I don't know, I don't want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: MUSIC PLAYS.
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  Speaker 3: In my first year on News at Ten, I reported
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  Speaker 3: on a highly unusual case that has stayed with me
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  Speaker 3: to this day. ITN News at Ten with Trevor McDonald.
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  Speaker 3: It began with several unexplained collapses on a children's ward
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  Speaker 3: in a small Lincolnshire hospital.
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  Speaker 12: Staff at the Grantham and Kestavan General Hospital became concerned
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  Speaker 12: about the growing number of youngsters suffering cardiac and respiratory arrests.
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  Speaker 3: For the first time in British history, a nurse was
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  Speaker 3: convicted of killing children in a hospital. Guilty of murdering
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  Speaker 3: four children. Guilty of three attempted murders. Guilty six times
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  Speaker 3: of causing grievous bodily harm within ten. Twenty-five years on
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  Speaker 3: from her conviction, I'm still curious about the impact Beverly
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  Speaker 3: Allitt had on her surviving victims and how she was
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  Speaker 3: finally brought to justice. I've come to Grantham to meet
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  Speaker 3: the children who survived her attacks and the detective without
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  Speaker 3: whom she may never have been caught. Former Superintendent Stuart
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  Speaker 3: Clifton remembers the case from the beginning as if it
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  Speaker 3: were yesterday.
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  Speaker 8: On the 30th of April of 1991, a detective sergeant
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  Speaker 8: at Grantham rang me to say that there had been
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  Speaker 8: an abnormal number of child deaths and collapses. I went
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  Speaker 8: to the hospital myself the next day. I met with
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  Speaker 8: the two hospital paediatricians and we talked through the... of
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  Speaker 8: a number of children that had occurred on the children's ward,
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  Speaker 8: Ward 4.
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  Speaker 3: In 59 days, there had been four deaths and more
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  Speaker 3: than 20 collapses on the ward. One senior doctor suspected
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  Speaker 3: foul play, but the other felt there was no real
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  Speaker 3: cause for suspicion.
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  Speaker 8: Dr Ndanyakara felt that the collapses of children on that ward...
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  Speaker 8: were just a blip on a graph and that there
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  Speaker 8: would be medical explanations.
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  Speaker 6: I said, from my point of view, I don't have
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  Speaker 6: any suspicions. Yes, I know I'm very worried. I genuinely
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  Speaker 6: didn't have any suspicion.
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  Speaker 3: An independent medical report confirmed some suspicions, but concluded that
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  Speaker 3: most of the children's collapses could be explained medically.
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  Speaker 8: I looked at the report and had the feeling that
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  Speaker 8: it was basically shutting down the inquiry.
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  Speaker 3: Detective Clifton faced resistance. Colleagues told him he would never
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  Speaker 3: get a conviction.
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  Speaker 8: One very senior officer said to me, you're chasing rainbows.
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  Speaker 8: Detectives develop a sixth sense, I think, and particularly experienced detectives,
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  Speaker 8: and there was something that just rankled with me that
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  Speaker 8: didn't seem quite true.
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  Speaker 3: Stuart Clifton refused to give up his investigation. He suspected
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  Speaker 3: a killer was still on the ward. The children who
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  Speaker 3: had suffered played on his mind. Children like Bradley Gibson,
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  Speaker 3: now 33 years old.
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  Speaker 13: Hi, Brad.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for coming back to Grantham. When were you last here?
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  Speaker 10: I visited a couple of years ago, but before that
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  Speaker 10: would be on the day, on the dates.
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  Speaker 3: Bradley was only five when a trip to Grantham Hospital
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  Speaker 3: changed his life.
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  Speaker 10: I had a really bad cough, so my mum took
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  Speaker 10: me in.
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  Speaker 3: Was that the first time you ever went into hospital?
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Looking after Bradley was a popular young nurse, Beverly Allitt.
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  Speaker 3: At around three o'clock in the morning, Bradley complained that
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  Speaker 3: his drip was causing him pain. Nurse Allitt came to
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  Speaker 3: check on him, and while she was there, he suddenly
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  Speaker 3: slumped forward, stopped breathing, and his heart stopped. Your heart stopped?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: They had to use adult doses of shock for him.
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  Speaker 3: So it was necessary to try to revive, to resuscitate you.
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  Speaker 10: For 32 minutes.
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  Speaker 3: That's a long time.
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  Speaker 10: That's a long time. Dr.
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  Speaker 6: Porter applied electric shock. Not once, not twice, seven, eight times,
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  Speaker 6: if not more. And eventually, he just managed to get
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  Speaker 6: the heartbeat going.
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  Speaker 10: They were very close upon giving up.
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  Speaker 3: Bradley can now reveal the extent of his injuries.
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  Speaker 10: I lost the use of my legs, so I wasn't
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  Speaker 10: able to get out of bed, wasn't able to move around.
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  Speaker 10: I couldn't control my bladder for a number of years afterwards.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think you suffered mentally?
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  Speaker 10: I had nightmares.
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  Speaker 3: I remember.
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  Speaker 10: waking up quite a number of nights, just screaming.
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  Speaker 3: Before the nightmares began, 22-year-old Beverly Allitt was a well-liked
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  Speaker 3: nurse on a close-knit children's ward.
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  Speaker 6: We had a small unit with a small team, so
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  Speaker 6: we knew each other. She was young, pleasant, very quiet.
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  Speaker 6: And I thought she was helpful.
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  Speaker 3: Families of the patients adored her. During a chaotic two months,
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  Speaker 3: when their children were collapsing at an alarming rate, Nurse
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  Speaker 3: Beverly was always there to help. One couple unwittingly made
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  Speaker 3: her a godmother to a child she attacked. But Detective
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  Speaker 3: Clifton was convinced something sinister was happening on the ward.
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  Speaker 3: He feared there could be other attacks at any moment.
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  Speaker 3: So despite the tension it would cause, he pursued his investigation.
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  Speaker 3: Did it ever occur to you that you might be wrong?
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  Speaker 8: It did, and it also occurred to me that if
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  Speaker 8: I was wrong, that there would be consequences, and I
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  Speaker 8: probably wouldn't be doing the job any longer.
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  Speaker 3: But if Stuart Clifton's suspicions were correct, there was a
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  Speaker 3: murderer working on the ward who could strike again at
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  Speaker 3: any moment. According to the Independent Medical Report, only one
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  Speaker 3: case offered any clue about what might be happening on
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  Speaker 3: Ward 4, baby Paul Crampton.
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  Speaker 14: These are photographs of our children around the time. Quite
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  Speaker 14: old now, of course, but, you know, fond memories.
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  Speaker 3: In late March of 1991, baby Paul became Beverly Allitt's
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  Speaker 3: fourth victim.
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  Speaker 14: When he was five months old, Kath rang me at work.
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  Speaker 8: She'd been to the doctor.
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  Speaker 14: Paul had got a wheezy chest. And she said they'd
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  Speaker 14: taken him into hospital.
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  Speaker 6: I was on call for that weekend. I felt that
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  Speaker 6: he was going to be stable and I did tell
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  Speaker 6: the parents if you want you can take him home
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  Speaker 6: they said doctor can we wait another day I said
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  Speaker 6: fair enough if that's what you want.
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  Speaker 3: That extra day in hospital would prove critical for.
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  Speaker 6: Paul early hours of the morning I got a call
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  Speaker 6: Paul had collapsed. Can you please come?
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  Speaker 5: Paul was laid there. Beverly Allitt was certainly in the room.
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  Speaker 5: Paul was grey, clammy. So I came dashing in. The
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  Speaker 5: crash team was already there. I checked some blood.
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  Speaker 6: I thought he very likely had a low sugar, what
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  Speaker 6: we call hypoglycemia.
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  Speaker 5: Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Naniakara gave the baby glucose, which suddenly brought him back
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  Speaker 3: to health.
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  Speaker 14: Some time after, we were allowed into the chamber room,
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  Speaker 14: and Paul was sat there happily playing with his toes.
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  Speaker 3: But every time he recovered, Paul collapsed again.
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  Speaker 14: On the third occasion, he was rushed to Queen's Medical
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  Speaker 14: Center in an ambulance with a blue light, and Nurse
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  Speaker 14: Beverly Allert accompanied my wife, Kath, in the ambulance.
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  Speaker 3: As soon as he was admitted to a new hospital,
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  Speaker 3: Paul was out of Beverly Allitt's control. He has since
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  Speaker 3: made a full recovery. But Paul Crampton's blood results held
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  Speaker 3: the key to what was happening on Ward 4.
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  Speaker 8: We knew that blood had been taken on the third
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  Speaker 8: collapse and the insulin level was quite high.
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  Speaker 3: Detective Clifton called in the country's leading expert on insulin poisoning.
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  Speaker 3: They'd got pretty good evidence that something was going wrong,
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  Speaker 3: but nothing that they could absolutely guarantee proved that any
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  Speaker 3: of the children that had been harmed had been deliberately harmed.
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  Speaker 3: Professor Vincent Marks tested Paul's blood more thoroughly and the
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  Speaker 3: results were extraordinary.
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  Speaker 15: We were able to show that Paul had an astronomically
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  Speaker 15: high level of insulin in his blood. We immediately got
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  Speaker 15: in touch with Stuart Clifton and said, you have got
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  Speaker 15: a cast-iron case.
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  Speaker 3: I can tell you that somebody was.
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  Speaker 15: Giving Paul insulin in big doses that he didn't need.
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  Speaker 3: The police were now certain that there was a criminal
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  Speaker 3: at large on Ward 4. and they worked out that
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  Speaker 3: there was one nurse present at all of the attacks.
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  Speaker 8: I decided that I would have Beverly Allitt arrested. In
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  Speaker 8: my naivety, I suppose, I thought that a young girl
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  Speaker 8: that's never been in trouble with the police before might
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  Speaker 8: just tell us what she's done.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't have been more wrong.
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  Speaker 1: No matter what you say, I'm sticking to my story.
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  Speaker 1: I did not do it. And that is the whole
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  Speaker 1: bloody truth. And it will always be the truth.
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  Speaker 3: Beverly Allitt's arrest was only the beginning. With no hard evidence,
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  Speaker 3: police needed a confession to prevent a killer from going
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  Speaker 3: back on the children's ward. Stuart, tell me about the
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  Speaker 3: first time you brought in Beverly Allitt for an interview.
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  Speaker 8: Being an old-fashioned copper, I thought, 20-odd-year-old girl, never been
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  Speaker 8: in trouble with the police before, perhaps she'll tell us
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  Speaker 8: what it is that she's done.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't have been more wrong. I've come to meet
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  Speaker 3: the team Detective Clifton assembled to arrest and question Beverly Allen.
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  Speaker 3: So you arrest a young nurse for murder. What did
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  Speaker 3: she say?
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  Speaker 13: She was quite calm, quite confident for somebody who's just
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  Speaker 13: been arrested for murder.
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  Speaker 4: It was unusual. If I had been arrested for an
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  Speaker 4: attempted murder of a child, then I think myself and
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  Speaker 4: most people would have a different reaction. She was really laid-back, chatty.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it was almost as if, come on, Bev,
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  Speaker 4: we're going to take you into town for a cup
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  Speaker 4: of coffee, really, rather than, you know, you've just been
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  Speaker 4: arrested on the attempted murder of some child.
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  Speaker 3: As Beverly Allitt was taken in to be interviewed, Detective
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  Speaker 3: Michelle Billingsley sat next to her in the police van.
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  Speaker 4: We took her into Grantham Police Station. We'd obviously got
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  Speaker 4: the press in that round there taking these photographs. She
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  Speaker 4: looks as if she's enjoying it, doesn't she? I mean,
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  Speaker 4: she has got a smile on her face and she's
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  Speaker 4: peering out. I don't. I'm looking quite perplexed about it all,
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  Speaker 4: I think, but she certainly looks more relaxed than what
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  Speaker 4: I look. She doesn't look worried at all, does she?
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  Speaker 3: Without sufficient forensic evidence, there was pressure on detectives to
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  Speaker 3: get Alit to talk.
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  Speaker 4: It's the first time in my career that I'd interviewed
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  Speaker 4: anybody that was under such suspicion.
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  Speaker 13: So I suppose there's a certain amount of anxiety that
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  Speaker 13: you get the interview right at the time.
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  Speaker 4: I don't understand all.
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  Speaker 16: That.
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  Speaker 3: The police knew that at least one victim, baby Paul Crampton,
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  Speaker 3: had been poisoned with insulin. They suspected Allitt was responsible,
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  Speaker 3: but lacked evidence tying her to the crime. They needed
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  Speaker 3: her to confess.
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  Speaker 13: You were arrested this morning on suspicion of the attempt
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  Speaker 13: murder of Paul Crampton, who was a baby on the
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  Speaker 13: ward from about the 20th of March.
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  Speaker 3: Those involved with the case have not heard these tapes
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  Speaker 3: for more than 25 years.
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  Speaker 13: Do you remember that child.
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  Speaker 4: Being on board?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, I do.
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  Speaker 3: The officers began by asking Beverly Allitt about Paul Crampton.
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  Speaker 13: We have got this kid in for Paul Crampton. Some
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  Speaker 13: harm has been done to him. You are the prime
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  Speaker 13: suspect at the moment. Everything points at you.
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  Speaker 1: I have everything pointed at me, but what can I
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  Speaker 1: do to say I didn't? I've told you, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: do it. And I wouldn't dream of doing it to anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Why a patient if I hated somebody that much?
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  Speaker 4: It soon became apparent that she wasn't going to admit
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  Speaker 4: to anything.
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  Speaker 3: Officers tried to pin Elliot down on her precise movements
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  Speaker 3: around Paul's collapse.
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  Speaker 11: And you say he went in there.
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  Speaker 8: Also in there was....
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  Speaker 11: Dad, Mr Crampton and Paul.
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  Speaker 3: Paul's father, David, has never heard this interview before and
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  Speaker 3: as Aled did not give evidence in court, he's keen
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  Speaker 3: to hear her version of events.
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  Speaker 13: Did you give that child anything? Not a thing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I even went in the room.
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  Speaker 4: I'm really going to sneak back on the ward.
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  Speaker 2: And say, oh, here, I have a bit of this.
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  Speaker 14: I was always sure that she had a clear plan.
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  Speaker 14: These tapes bring that into real crystal clarity. Clear thinking,
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  Speaker 14: clear thought, clear plan, know where I want to get to.
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  Speaker 1: No matter how much you don't believe me, and I
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  Speaker 1: know you don't, I don't care. I can't bloody lie
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  Speaker 1: to you. I'm not going to sit here and lie
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  Speaker 1: to you for days on end while I get questioned.
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  Speaker 4: There was a certain confident attitude about her. I think
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  Speaker 4: she thought, which she did, that she knew more than
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  Speaker 4: we did, which put her in that better position, which
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  Speaker 4: she obviously enjoyed.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, when I found out who bloody
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  Speaker 1: did it, having me in here all this pissing.
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  Speaker 2: Time, I fell off.
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  Speaker 3: With no decisive evidence, Alex's interviewers knew they could not
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  Speaker 3: hold her for long. And time was running out.
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  Speaker 1: Unless they made a breakthrough, police might have to release
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  Speaker 1: a suspected killer back to work on a children's ward.
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  Speaker 14: But what am I doing to you?
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  Speaker 3: You tell me what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 4: To your children.
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  Speaker 8: All I can say is that Paul Brampton suffered that
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  Speaker 8: because of insulin.
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  Speaker 4: So we have to look at who's had the access
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  Speaker 4: to insulin.
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  Speaker 1: No matter what you say, I'm sticking to my story.
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  Speaker 2: I did not do it.
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  Speaker 3: The 22-year-old nurse would not break. In fact, she grew
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  Speaker 3: more defiant.
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  Speaker 10: Is there anything you just want to clarify?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be here all year.
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  Speaker 8: Is there anything you want to say?
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  Speaker 1: Ask me next year.
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  Speaker 10: I'll tell you around the time.
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  Speaker 3: So what did you think hearing those words again?
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  Speaker 13: It brings it all back, actually. And you heard her.
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  Speaker 13: You know, she sounded confident. She replied to us straight away.
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  Speaker 13: There was no hesitation. She knew exactly what she was doing.
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  Speaker 3: But she was absolutely defiant in saying that she was
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  Speaker 3: not involved.
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  Speaker 13: It just hammers home to me how devious she was.
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  Speaker 3: With no confession and insufficient evidence to keep her in custody,
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  Speaker 3: Stuart Clifton was left with no choice but to set
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  Speaker 3: Beverley free. Allitt free.
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  Speaker 8: I released her on bail because the Police and Criminal
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  Speaker 8: Evidence Act ties you to time limits.
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  Speaker 3: He then found himself having to convince the hospital not
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  Speaker 3: to let her back on the ward.
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  Speaker 8: If this was a killer, and I believed at that
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  Speaker 8: stage it was, allowing... Somebody to go back into an
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  Speaker 8: environment where they could yet again kill was more than
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  Speaker 8: I could stomach.
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  Speaker 13: Death at Grantham District Hospital have been investigated by police.
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  Speaker 10: A nurse is on extended leave.
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  Speaker 3: Stuart Clifton appeared on News at Ten, but couldn't say
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  Speaker 3: what he actually believed.
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  Speaker 8: It's too early yet to say whether there is anything
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  Speaker 8: at all sinister in this case.
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  Speaker 3: Detective Clifton had already found his murderer, but he could
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  Speaker 3: not tell even the victim's parents, like Bradley Gibson's mother, Judith.
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  Speaker 2: We just all want some kind of decision-making, and very quickly.
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  Speaker 10: None of us wants to go through this any longer.
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  Speaker 8: I then set about investigating the collapses of the other children.
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  Speaker 3: With Beverly Allitt now free, Stuart Clifton feared she could
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  Speaker 3: kill again. he began to widen his investigation to gather
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  Speaker 3: the evidence he needed to bring her back in.
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  Speaker 5: I was a bit of a handful back then.
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  Speaker 14: A very naughty kid.
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  Speaker 17: Must have been a nightmare for my parents then.
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  Speaker 3: Michael Davidson had his brother Mark at his bedside when
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  Speaker 3: he collapsed on Ward 4. They're both meeting me in Grantham,
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  Speaker 3: not far from the hospital where it all happened.
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  Speaker 7: One of them things, you know, after a while you
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  Speaker 7: kind of get used to the idea of going, you know,
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  Speaker 7: needing to go there at some point in my life.
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  Speaker 3: Mark was with Michael while Beverly Allitt made up his
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: routine antibiotic injection. As the doctor gave Michael the injection,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: no one knew that Beverly Allitt had tampered with the syringe.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Alit was there?
• 22:11
  Speaker 14: Yes.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: And you remember that?
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: She was this side of the bed. I was on
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: the opposite side of the bed. Within three minutes is
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: when he started, like, fitting. He started raising his body
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: off the bed. And the crash team come in because
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: he had literally died and brought him back to life.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Beverly Allitt attacked 13 children before police became involved. She
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: was now back in the community and detectives were no
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: closer to bringing her to justice. She is now a
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: patient herself, looked after by medical professionals here at Rampton
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Secure Hospital, where she turned 50 this month. But what
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: was the lasting impact of her actions all those years ago?
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: And how does it still affect her surviving victims? There's
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: no longer a Ward 4 here at Grantham Hospital. The
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Children's Ward has been given a new look and a
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: new name. But what remains is the memory of Beverly
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Allen and what she did here. Kayleigh was 15 months
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: old in March 1991, when she collapsed twice at Grantham Hospital.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: 27 years later, Kayleigh still feels the need to look
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: nervously under her bed and around her room. What are
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: you looking for?
• 23:51
  Speaker 18: Snow pellet.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: So I see it and I'm in bed. You see
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: her when you're in bed?
• 24:04
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 24:14
  Speaker 18: I suppose the only way you can describe it is
• 24:17
  Speaker 18: flashbacks of what happened. She sort of looks under a
• 24:22
  Speaker 18: bed in drawers, looking for, actually, Nurse Allitt, although you're
• 24:27
  Speaker 18: told time and time again she is not there.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Kayleigh was already suffering from a rare disorder that affected
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: her development and growth when her nurse, Beverly Allitt, attacked her.
• 24:41
  Speaker 18: Kayleigh was injected with air underneath her armpits that made
• 24:46
  Speaker 18: her lungs collapse. She had what they call respiratory arrests.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: How did you think this happened?
• 24:51
  Speaker 18: Well, we were just told it was the nurse that
• 24:54
  Speaker 18: actually injected the air under her arm.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Your mum and dad say that you have a constant
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: fear about various things. Can you tell me what you're
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: afraid of?
• 25:10
  Speaker 18: What do you tell mummy you're afraid of?
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: What frightens you now?
• 25:13
  Speaker 10: In case you come back for me.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: You think that the nurse might be coming back for you?
• 25:19
  Speaker 15: Yes.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: That will never happen.
• 25:23
  Speaker 18: She wouldn't recognise you now, would she? You were just
• 25:26
  Speaker 18: a little baby. And I tell you time and time again,
• 25:29
  Speaker 18: don't I?
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: It's very difficult for her to understand.
• 25:34
  Speaker 15: And you could tell her one day and then a
• 25:36
  Speaker 15: few days later or a couple of weeks later, the
• 25:38
  Speaker 15: same questions are asked again.
• 25:39
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 25:42
  Speaker 18: No, don't cry.
• 25:43
  Speaker 13: Sorry.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Beverly Allitt nearly got away with these crimes.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: In the spring of 1991, she was the prime suspect,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: but with no hard evidence, police were forced to let
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: her go. So a killer was back in the community
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: and the police were running out of options. They looked
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: into her past for any clues that might help them
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: build their case.
• 26:22
  Speaker 17: She grew up in a good, honest, hard-working family. She's,
• 26:28
  Speaker 17: you know, a nice local village girl.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: At first, they found little of relevance to their inquiry.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Beverley Allitt's home life in the village of Corby Glen
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: was remarkably stable. Jeremy Marshall Roberts had long been a
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: friend of her family and he would leave Beverley looking
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: after his young children.
• 26:49
  Speaker 17: She used to come and take Charlie and Jamie and
• 26:53
  Speaker 17: the dog Cromwell for a walk in the afternoons, you know,
• 26:56
  Speaker 17: Charlie would be walking with a hand and Jamie would
• 27:00
  Speaker 17: be in the pushchair. We certainly wouldn't have let her
• 27:04
  Speaker 17: take our children out if we thought anything untoward might happen.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: When police dug deeper, a darker side emerged.
• 27:15
  Speaker 13: She had a really checkered history. She was a born liar.
• 27:19
  Speaker 13: From being a child, she made things up.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: I think the main thing was this attention-seeking thing.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: There was a pattern of faked illnesses, arms wrapped in bandages,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: behaviour to seek attention and sympathy.
• 27:35
  Speaker 16: I think by creating this drama and being the person
• 27:38
  Speaker 16: who's right at the middle of it, it made her
• 27:40
  Speaker 16: realise how much control she could have over other people,
• 27:43
  Speaker 16: and I think that became quite addictive for her.
• 27:53
  Speaker 13: When she became a student nurse at this hospital... There
• 27:57
  Speaker 13: were fires in the toilet, strange noises in the middle
• 28:00
  Speaker 13: of the night. And I think this is an escalation.
• 28:04
  Speaker 13: I mean, there had always been, and when you look
• 28:07
  Speaker 13: to a previous history, there had always been problems.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: In one year, Allitt was off work for 100 days,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: claiming an array of illnesses. She also became violent with
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: her boyfriend.
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: After she started working at the hospital, I started getting
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: a little bit oof with me. We used to have
• 28:26
  Speaker 11: an argument and she turned around and kicked me in
• 28:28
  Speaker 11: the balls. She grabbed hold of me and brought me
• 28:31
  Speaker 11: to my knees.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Beverly Allitt's skill at deception had so far allowed her
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: to keep one step ahead of the police. But the
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: investigation was about to take a decisive turn Police were
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: closing in on the killer nurse.
• 28:54
  Speaker 13: I was in the city hospital. I bumped into a
• 28:58
  Speaker 13: nurse and she was responsible for collating blood samples. Now,
• 29:03
  Speaker 13: children in hospital have two things taken often regularly, nearly
• 29:06
  Speaker 13: every day, a blood sample and an X-ray. So I
• 29:10
  Speaker 13: spoke to her and she said, well, I have to
• 29:12
  Speaker 13: dispose of these about every six months, but I haven't
• 29:15
  Speaker 13: really got round to it.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: If Nottingham City Hospital had been sent blood samples from
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Alec's victims, they might still be in storage.
• 29:30
  Speaker 13: Now this fridge that I went to look at, it's
• 29:32
  Speaker 13: bigger than this sofa, and we got into it upside down,
• 29:37
  Speaker 13: pulled it all out, thousands of samples, and we recovered
• 29:40
  Speaker 13: nine samples of blood from the 13 children.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: These were tested and in some of the samples there
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: was insulin found in some of these blood samples. There
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: was potassium, I recall, being found in others. which obviously
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: was then bringing, through the medical experts, the professors, other children,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: into this inquiry.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: The police now had proof of poisonous chemicals in the
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: blood of Allitt's victims at the time of their collapse.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: So what was your next step?
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: My next step was interviewing Beverly Allitt yet again.
• 30:19
  Speaker 13: Would you like to give your full name, please?
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Beverly Gail Allitt. The 10th, 1968.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Gone was the confident, combative Beverly Allitt. She now resorted
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: to playing a very different game.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I've already been interviewed at great length by police in
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: relation to various allegations made. I have been under great
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: pressure because of the vast amount of media attention on me,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: and in this case, I do not, therefore, wish to
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: answer any more questions.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: After presenting Alec with compelling evidence of her guilt, officers
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: looked for any sign of remorse.
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: How do you feel for the parents of these children?
• 31:03
  Speaker 13: No reply.
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: It's quite sad, really, isn't it? No reply.
• 31:11
  Speaker 13: Obviously, her solicitor was there and she just made no
• 31:15
  Speaker 13: comment throughout the whole of the interview.
• 31:19
  Speaker 12: Especially children, in particular to me, people like Claire Peck.
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: 15-month-old girl.
• 31:28
  Speaker 13: Smiles and winks at the staff.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Claire Peck. She came into the hospital with asthma.
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: She's left with Beverly Allitt for a space of two minutes,
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: no more. And she suffers the first of two collapses.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: Dr.
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: Porter goes away to tell the parents of the little
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: girl that she's on the road to recovery. Beverly Allitt's
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: left with her, and again, within the space of two minutes,
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: she's stopped breathing, and they can't resuscitate her.
• 32:06
  Speaker 14: Don't you feel anything for those parents, for the children
• 32:12
  Speaker 14: you saw?
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: No, I don't.
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: Here is a little girl that ostensibly is on the
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: road to recovery and in the space of two minutes
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: she's killed her. Horrific.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: And you were absolutely certain that the first doctor had
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: probably saved her from collapse but that within a few
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: minutes Beverly Allitt had Injected her. Absolutely. Absolutely. But this time,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: police did have enough evidence to hold her.
• 32:54
  Speaker 13: And then she was charged.
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: You bastard!
• 33:00
  Speaker 13: She was charged with four counts of murder.
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: Parents and relatives, it had been a long, painful wait.
• 33:07
  Speaker 13: And attempted murder. and offences of GBH.
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: I'm arresting you on suspicion of the attempted murder of
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: this child on the 9th of April, 1991.
• 33:16
  Speaker 10: You do not have to say anything unless you wish
• 33:18
  Speaker 10: to do so.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: I have to tell you that you do not have
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: to say anything unless you wish to do so, but what.
• 33:23
  Speaker 10: You're saying may be.
• 33:24
  Speaker 13: I am now arresting you for the attempted murder of
• 33:26
  Speaker 13: Kayleigh Joanders. She made no comment about the charges.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Can you recall what day?
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: November.
• 33:38
  Speaker 13: She was then taken to a cell and went to sleep.
• 33:43
  Speaker 13: And she had to be woken in the morning to
• 33:44
  Speaker 13: go to court.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: So she had to be woken to go to court?
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:50
  Speaker 13: This young lady was callous, sadistic. She was attacking children
• 33:55
  Speaker 13: after children. They were vulnerable, innocent, defenceless. And yet she
• 34:02
  Speaker 13: had no emotion whatsoever and no remorse.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: A nurse appeared in court at Grantham in Lincolnshire today
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: charged with the murder of three babies and an 11-year-old
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: at the hospital where she worked. The trial began on
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: February the 15th, 1993. Alice is denying four murders and
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: 11 attempted murders. The true horror of her crimes came
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: out in court. Evidence suggested that she suffocated some of
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: her victims. Three months later, a verdict was reached.
• 34:34
  Speaker 16: There was emotion in the public gallery as the verdicts
• 34:37
  Speaker 16: were announced.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: There was an audible sigh of relief as the first
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: of the guilty verdicts was announced.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Guilty of murdering four children. Guilty of three attempted murders.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Guilty six times of causing grievous bodily harm with intent.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: For the first time in British history, a nurse had
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: been found guilty of murdering children in a hospital.
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: You know, you put so much faith and trust in nurses...
• 35:04
  Speaker 10: They're supposed to help you.
• 35:06
  Speaker 14: Do I feel betrayed by the nurse?
• 35:08
  Speaker 12: Absolutely.
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: Absolutely.
• 35:10
  Speaker 18: Something like that shouldn't happen.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Victim's families were determined to see Beverly Allitt sent to
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: prison for life. And in late May of 1993, they
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: finally got some news they wanted to hear. Nurse Beverly
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Allitt begins a sentence without end tonight for murdering four
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: children in her care and for injuring nine others.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: We're very pleased.
• 35:36
  Speaker 18: 13 life sentences.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Is what we hoped for and that's exactly what we've got.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I only hope that she's never released. Parents of her
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: victims looked on as the convicted serial killer was driven
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: from court to begin her 13 life sentences at Holloway Prison.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: But she would remain there only for a week. Beverly
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Allitt has been here at Rampton Secure Hospital for the
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: best part of 27 years, a patient, not just a prisoner.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: But should she have been moved here in the first place?
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Before her trial, Beverly Allitt reportedly told close friends that
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: whatever happened, she would not go to prison. Beverly Allitt
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: was not deemed to be seriously mentally ill, when she
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: committed her crimes. And on sentencing, she did not meet
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: the criteria for transfer to a hospital. Once in prison,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: she refused to eat or drink and was diagnosed as
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: having a psychopathic disorder. After only one week, she was
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: moved to Rampton Hospital. Shortly after her arrival here, an
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: ITV film crew gained extraordinary access to Rampton and managed
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: to see Beverly Allitt in the hospital and to talk
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: to her about what her life was like.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: It's not too bad.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: What's the good thing about it?
• 37:18
  Speaker 18: We're out, got more freedom in here.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: You like it better than where you were before?
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 37:23
  Speaker 14: Because I've got more freedom.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: I'm not locked up all the time.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: I think it's wrong.
• 37:32
  Speaker 18: She should be in a prison for the crimes she committed.
• 37:35
  Speaker 10: She's a murderer. She's a child murderer. She's been living
• 37:39
  Speaker 10: the life of Riley in there. She should be serving
• 37:42
  Speaker 10: her life sentences in a prison behind bars.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: It can't be no fault I'm making.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: I asked two leading criminal experts for their opinion on
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Alec's mental state at the time of her arrest. But
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: what if it's a deliberate fault you're making?
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: What can I do deliberately to do it?
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to do.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Jeremy Coyd has assessed some of Britain's most notorious killers,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: including Ian Brady and Peter Sutcliffe.
• 38:10
  Speaker 9: She doesn't sound like somebody who has a severe mental
• 38:14
  Speaker 9: illness or a personality disorder so severe that she needs
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: to go to rant about it.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Elizabeth Yardley has written extensively on healthcare serial killers.
• 38:29
  Speaker 16: When we start talking about mental ill health, we're looking
• 38:32
  Speaker 16: at people who aren't in control of their actions, but
• 38:35
  Speaker 16: it's very clear to me that Beverly Allitt knew exactly
• 38:37
  Speaker 16: what she was doing. She knew it was wrong and
• 38:39
  Speaker 16: she chose to do it anyway. I think somebody who
• 38:42
  Speaker 16: has committed murder knowingly, willingly, I think, yes, they should
• 38:47
  Speaker 16: be in prison.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: Beverly Allitt was first moved from prison to hospital in
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: when she showed signs of anorexia while on remand. But
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: our research has uncovered a psychiatric assessment of Beverly Allitt
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: before trial, which judges her fit to plead and raises
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: serious questions about the authenticity of the original symptoms that
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: had her moved. We've had sight of an official report
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: which suggests that Beverly Allitt was faking the anorexia, which
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: had her moved from prison to hospital in the first place.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Is this more evidence of her manipulative behaviour?
• 39:29
  Speaker 16: I think this woman is an incredibly manipulative individual. She's
• 39:33
  Speaker 16: somebody who has managed to pull the strings of other
• 39:36
  Speaker 16: people for years and years before she was even convicted
• 39:40
  Speaker 16: of these crimes. So why would she have changed her behaviour?
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: It is suggested that Beverly Allitt may have manipulated her
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: way into a hospital as against a prison. Is it possible?
• 39:56
  Speaker 12: I think it's very difficult to simply manipulate your way
• 40:00
  Speaker 12: into prison or into hospital. Otherwise, they'd be full of
• 40:02
  Speaker 12: all sorts of people that shouldn't be there. It is
• 40:06
  Speaker 12: not impossible that somebody changes their presentation to try and
• 40:11
  Speaker 12: do what they think is best for them, but that's
• 40:13
  Speaker 12: not an easy task, and you're going to have to
• 40:15
  Speaker 12: do that consistently with a whole bunch of people who
• 40:18
  Speaker 12: are trained to see whether or not you're accurately saying
• 40:21
  Speaker 12: what you're saying and doing what you said you did.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Over the years, Allitt has been diagnosed with various personality disorders,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: but only she knows the answer to the biggest question
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: still surrounding this case.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't want to talk about it.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: A quarter of a century on, one question in particular
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: still troubles those involved.
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: I've always been puzzled why somebody who joins... a caring profession,
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: would suddenly start and harm children.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I've never understood it. At her trial, experts presented a
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: theory that Alit suffered from Munchausen syndrome by proxy, that
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: the attention-seeking behaviour from her childhood had evolved into harming
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: others so that she could be the one to save them.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: When she was interviewed, officers pressed her on this fireman's syndrome.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: Aren't you proud of the fact that this is happening
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: and you've saved it?
• 41:23
  Speaker 9: No.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: How can I save this? The doctor's not me. And
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: you've not alerted the doctor?
• 41:27
  Speaker 14: What potentially could have happened to these children?
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: They've been found dead, I should think.
• 41:31
  Speaker 13: So, who's further in.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: The cap is it?
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Who's the hero?
• 41:35
  Speaker 14: In my layman's terms, I call it the fireman's syndrome.
• 41:37
  Speaker 15: What's that?
• 41:38
  Speaker 14: I'm a fireman, I'll start a fire, I'll raise the
• 41:40
  Speaker 14: alarm and.
• 41:41
  Speaker 13: I'll put it out and I'm a hero.
• 41:44
  Speaker 9: There may well have been an element of a fireman's syndrome,
• 41:49
  Speaker 9: but there might be a much, much darker thing where
• 41:51
  Speaker 9: she sits with the child in her arms, watching it
• 41:54
  Speaker 9: die and getting off on the control of that. And actually,
• 41:59
  Speaker 9: the act of killing is enormously exciting. It's enormously pleasurable.
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: It would have had a very important purpose to her.
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: The question is, has she told anybody anything? why she
• 42:14
  Speaker 9: did it.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Detective Stuart Clifton is one of the few people who
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: has been able to ask her face to face. He
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: saw her in hospital just months after her conviction. How
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: was she then when you saw her at Rampton? Very calm.
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: She wouldn't give any explanation as to why she'd done it.
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: She merely said, Yes, I'm responsible, but I didn't do
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: all 13.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: I only did nine. She said that to you?
• 42:44
  Speaker 16: Yes.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: How did she say this? What did she say to you?
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: She just blurted it out.
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: I think there's no other way of putting it.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Why have you done it?
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: And her head goes down and she doesn't answer.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: And has she made any other response since?
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: No.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Beverly Ellett's surviving victims are still troubled by her apparent
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: failure to confess her crimes. But I've discovered a failed
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: application by Alec to become a lifetime patient and avoid prison.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: It contains a startling revelation. In this application, Alec does
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: finally admit to all 13 crimes of which he was convicted.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Yet we have spoken to families of her victims and
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: it seems none of them was informed.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: I didn't really know about that bit.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Were you never told?
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: No.
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: It makes me feel better that she admitted to it,
• 43:46
  Speaker 6: but it was more in her self-interest.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: It would mean more if she pleaded guilty at trial.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: We was never aware of it.
• 43:57
  Speaker 14: No.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Too little, too late. In making this film, I've discovered
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: more about Beverly Allitt's character. When you saw her at Rampton,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: was there any sign at all that she was remorseful
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: about what had happened?
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: None at all.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: She has shown no remorse for the lasting damage she caused.
• 44:31
  Speaker 14: Her crimes were very much like dropping a pebble into
• 44:34
  Speaker 14: a pond. They spread farm-wide. There's clearly the families, close
• 44:40
  Speaker 14: relatives of the children involved.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: I have seen and heard how Beverly Allitt continued her
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: controlling behaviour after she committed her crimes. But why did
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: she attack and murder those children on Ward 4? That
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: is one secret I fear she will take to her grave.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: You haven't got evidence to say I injected him.
• 45:14
  Speaker 13: No, we've just got.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Well, then, if you haven't got evidence to say I
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: did it, I.
• 45:18
  Speaker 9: Didn't do it.
• 45:18
  Speaker 14: No.
• 45:33
  Speaker 13: Thank you.