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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to you Stuff you should know front House stuff
- 0:04Speaker 1: Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm
- 0:10Speaker 1: Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant and the
- 0:13Speaker 1: Stuff you should know, right, Yeah, Zoological Edition. Yeah, I
- 0:19Speaker 1: like these. Yeah. We we try to cover like interesting animals,
- 0:23Speaker 1: not that I mean all interesting animals are fairly interesting,
- 0:26Speaker 1: I think, but we try to like hit up things
- 0:29Speaker 1: like the optopus and the platypus and other pluses. Butterflies
- 0:35Speaker 1: is what you mean. And we did butterflies ones. Yeah,
- 0:38Speaker 1: with the narwhal. We gotta do that at some point too,
- 0:41Speaker 1: not like it's like a dolphin with the tusk. Well,
- 0:44Speaker 1: they'll just be a short one. We just did the narwal. Uh. Yeah,
- 0:47Speaker 1: we were talking today about the platypus. We have not
- 0:50Speaker 1: ever done it before, and despite Jerry's protests to the contrary,
- 0:55Speaker 1: we haven't recorded one. If we have, Chuck and I
- 0:58Speaker 1: have both gone totally insane and have no recollection of it.
- 1:01Speaker 1: So if we did, let us know, well we covered uh,
- 1:04Speaker 1: weird animals in Australia or deadly animals in Australia, venomous
- 1:08Speaker 1: animals in Australia. But we have not covered the platypus specifically.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Did we mention the platypus in that because I don't don't.
- 1:16Speaker 1: I don't recall knowing that the platypus had venom. We
- 1:19Speaker 1: definitely didn't. So that's the big twist of this episode.
- 1:22Speaker 1: I'm ruined it for everybody. I'm sorry. Oh man, there's
- 1:24Speaker 1: so many twists with the platypus. You can't this is
- 1:26Speaker 1: spoiler free. So, um, did you know much of this
- 1:30Speaker 1: stuff beforehand? No? And in fact, I did not know
- 1:33Speaker 1: that they were so small. I didn't either. That took
- 1:35Speaker 1: me by surprise. I thought there may be the size
- 1:37Speaker 1: of like my torso. Yeah, I thought it was like
- 1:39Speaker 1: the size of a of a medium sized dog or something,
- 1:43Speaker 1: or a large beaver. And it kind of looks like
- 1:45Speaker 1: a beaver that stuck its face and something and got
- 1:47Speaker 1: it stuck. Like it looks like a beaver that stuck
- 1:50Speaker 1: its face in a fake duck bill and can't get
- 1:53Speaker 1: it off. It's not a very cute animal. I want
- 1:56Speaker 1: it to be very cute, and it's just not. I
- 1:58Speaker 1: like it. But they are tiny. That's like the size
- 2:00Speaker 1: of a very small cat even Yeah, they run to
- 2:02Speaker 1: about five pounds a little more, is that, right? I
- 2:05Speaker 1: saw five pounds somewhere. Yeah. They what's interesting is they
- 2:09Speaker 1: well they're only found in Eastern Australia up and down
- 2:12Speaker 1: the coast down to the island of Tasmania, right, and
- 2:14Speaker 1: they live in woodlands and rivers. Yeah. And the ones
- 2:18Speaker 1: in the south though are um larger, is there? Yeah,
- 2:23Speaker 1: though they can get up to like six pounds, and
- 2:25Speaker 1: the ones in the north up in like the Queensland coast,
- 2:28Speaker 1: they're like some of those like two and a half
- 2:30Speaker 1: three pounds. They're just teeny little cute guys. They're like
- 2:32Speaker 1: teacup platypus. Yeah. So I've always just seen pictures of
- 2:35Speaker 1: them without a human around a human did I say human?
- 2:40Speaker 1: And um, then when I saw I watched a bunch
- 2:43Speaker 1: of videos today when I saw the people holding them up,
- 2:44Speaker 1: I was like, that's just a little thing. So yeah,
- 2:48Speaker 1: my answer the long window lay saying I didn't know
- 2:50Speaker 1: much about them, Well, you know, I didn't know much
- 2:52Speaker 1: about him either, And it turns out that, um, most
- 2:54Speaker 1: people don't because I've seen a lot of different stuff
- 2:57Speaker 1: like that. Just that weight discrepancy is is just one example.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Like um, like we said, platypuses They spend most of
- 3:04Speaker 1: their lives along river banks and freshwater river banks, we
- 3:07Speaker 1: should say, are there saltwater rivers? Truly, there's like tidal
- 3:12Speaker 1: creeks and stuff like that. These guys are freshwater animals, um,
- 3:16Speaker 1: And they hold their breath when they go eat food
- 3:19Speaker 1: because they're actually bottom feeders. But um, they I saw
- 3:23Speaker 1: a lot of different variations and estimates of how long
- 3:26Speaker 1: they could hold their breath. Thirty seconds I saw all
- 3:28Speaker 1: over the place. One person said, eight minutes. I think
- 3:32Speaker 1: one source said, I don't know five. I think it's
- 3:37Speaker 1: what one source said. So I've seen all over the place.
- 3:40Speaker 1: But the point is there's a lot of random facts
- 3:44Speaker 1: floating around about platypuses, and we're gonna compile them all
- 3:47Speaker 1: together here. That's right. Um. I was instantly surprised by
- 3:53Speaker 1: the fact that they were just on the east coast
- 3:54Speaker 1: of Australia. Didn't know that, right, I knew Australia. I
- 3:58Speaker 1: didn't even know that now first some reason, I don't know.
- 4:00Speaker 1: I just didn't know that. So apparently, after Pangaea split,
- 4:05Speaker 1: it evolved on one of the huge chunks of land
- 4:08Speaker 1: called Gondwana. Then that split formed Australia and South America
- 4:13Speaker 1: and some other places, and they were in South America
- 4:16Speaker 1: and Australia at the time, and then the ones in
- 4:18Speaker 1: South America died off and all he's just like, it's ours, right,
- 4:24Speaker 1: what was that? What happened? Just now? That was Australia. Okay,
- 4:27Speaker 1: that was my best stab um and we the duck
- 4:32Speaker 1: built platypus. As far as it it's called today, that's
- 4:35Speaker 1: obviously a European term for it. And it wasn't until
- 4:39Speaker 1: almost the nineteenth century that the platypus um was first
- 4:44Speaker 1: encountered by Europeans. Before that, Aborigines obviously had run into
- 4:48Speaker 1: them before. They had names for him like Malanong, Bundabura,
- 4:53Speaker 1: uh tambret a, better names than duck build platypus. Yeah,
- 4:59Speaker 1: agreed um. So that the Aborigines knew about it, and
- 5:02Speaker 1: the first white colonists that showed up in Australia, I guess,
- 5:07Speaker 1: heard legends of these things and then started to see
- 5:09Speaker 1: them themselves. And even though these were Europeans telling other Europeans, Hey,
- 5:14Speaker 1: there's this really weird animal down here. There's a bunch
- 5:17Speaker 1: of weird animals, like you're not gonna believe the kangaroo
- 5:19Speaker 1: but this thing has got it, like all of them
- 5:21Speaker 1: beat and people in Europe are like, you're full of it.
- 5:24Speaker 1: And they even sent them specimens, stuffed specimens, and the
- 5:28Speaker 1: the Texa germists and the naturalists and biologists back in
- 5:32Speaker 1: Europe said, I still don't believe it because at the time,
- 5:35Speaker 1: have you ever seen the mermaid mummies? Yeah, the Chinese
- 5:39Speaker 1: were they were in the fabricating animals. Yeah, so everybody
- 5:42Speaker 1: thought it was just a Chinese thing until somebody finally
- 5:45Speaker 1: got their hands on one, uh and dissected it. His
- 5:48Speaker 1: name was Everard Jones, and he proclaimed them real in
- 5:52Speaker 1: eighteen o two. Yeah. It's funny that for a while
- 5:55Speaker 1: they're like, no, no, no, this went through that. I
- 5:57Speaker 1: think they call it the Indian Seas at the time,
- 5:59Speaker 1: they're like went close to China and you know that
- 6:01Speaker 1: they're just nuts over there with this stuff. Yeah, it's
- 6:04Speaker 1: a rogue taxidermy pretty much. What's kind of cool that
- 6:06Speaker 1: they were doing that, though, I wonder if it was
- 6:09Speaker 1: just like a creative thing or what were they doing.
- 6:12Speaker 1: They were selling them to sailors. It's like as some
- 6:15Speaker 1: sort of scam as a yeah, as a mermaid. They're like,
- 6:17Speaker 1: these are real mermaids from what I understand, like the
- 6:21Speaker 1: sea monkeys that you defend, but even less real. So, um,
- 6:28Speaker 1: we finally established a ten o two that platypuses are real,
- 6:32Speaker 1: and we start to just really dig in to figure
- 6:34Speaker 1: out what is going on with these things, and the
- 6:38Speaker 1: more we dig in, the stranger things become. So, for example,
- 6:43Speaker 1: chuck platypus, it's a mammal, and the reason it's a
- 6:47Speaker 1: mammal is because it nurses, it's young, and it has
- 6:51Speaker 1: for yet it doesn't have nipples. No, it secretes its
- 6:56Speaker 1: milk through its abdomen like it's just leaking or something
- 6:59Speaker 1: through poor and the little they're called puggles, they're young,
- 7:02Speaker 1: are and the puggles just suckle on the abdomen and
- 7:06Speaker 1: it's a very odd thing in in nature for that
- 7:10Speaker 1: to happen. It is peculiar. Yeah, very peculiar. Yeah. Um, okay,
- 7:14Speaker 1: so they're mammals, but they're not just mammals. They also
- 7:17Speaker 1: straddle the line like that. Basically, the platypusts exists to
- 7:21Speaker 1: strain the taxonomic system of classification of animals. They have
- 7:27Speaker 1: that duck bill, that pesky duck bill. Yeah, and the
- 7:30Speaker 1: web feet so it's like, all right, so they're birds, right,
- 7:34Speaker 1: I guess, but I thought we just said they were mammals.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Officially they are mammals. That's not going to change, although
- 7:41Speaker 1: you never know. But yeah, they do have the web
- 7:43Speaker 1: feet and the duck bill and then they also have
- 7:46Speaker 1: um certain uh, they have eyes like a reptile. They
- 7:51Speaker 1: lay eggs like a reptile. Amphibians they suckle their young
- 7:55Speaker 1: through their abdomens with milk, but they give birth to eggs,
- 8:00Speaker 1: so that's not supposed to happen either. No, the female
- 8:04Speaker 1: they have two ovaries, one of them functions, one of
- 8:06Speaker 1: them doesn't, and they lay these, you know, one to
- 8:08Speaker 1: three little leathery eggs. They're a little more round than
- 8:11Speaker 1: the oval bird eggs, but there their eggs. And they're
- 8:15Speaker 1: born with teeth that fall out. Then they have these
- 8:17Speaker 1: little horny plates that they mash their food up with. Yeah,
- 8:19Speaker 1: they don't have teeth, they're just weird. They're born with teeth, right,
- 8:23Speaker 1: which actually it's funny because um, both creationists and evolutionists
- 8:28Speaker 1: hold the platypus up as evidence of their beliefs. The
- 8:32Speaker 1: creationists are like, if anything, it's reverse evolutions. They lose
- 8:36Speaker 1: their teeth right, and like you this this thing was
- 8:40Speaker 1: obviously assembled, right, Like what what evolves over hundreds of
- 8:44Speaker 1: millions of years living by water but can only hold
- 8:46Speaker 1: its breath for thirty seconds? Thirty seconds means depending on
- 8:49Speaker 1: who you ask, say the creationists evolutionists say, well, no,
- 8:54Speaker 1: I mean, like what this is probably the earliest example
- 8:57Speaker 1: of a mammal to branch off from the the mammalian line,
- 9:02Speaker 1: so it fills in the gaps between us and our distant,
- 9:05Speaker 1: distant ancestry. It's a great example of evolution. The fact is,
- 9:10Speaker 1: like we're we still don't quite know what the deal
- 9:14Speaker 1: is with this thing, even after mapping it's genome. Yeah,
- 9:17Speaker 1: I bet you there's a political, great political cartoon out
- 9:19Speaker 1: there with a like a Christian pulling on the duck
- 9:24Speaker 1: bill and an evolutionist pulling on the tail the platypus
- 9:27Speaker 1: in the middle, Like, yeah, I just want to live, right,
- 9:31Speaker 1: I guess it just wrote a political cartoon. Don't put
- 9:33Speaker 1: your hang ups on me. Yeah, exactly. All we need
- 9:36Speaker 1: to do is be able to draw, would be said,
- 9:38Speaker 1: so the the the the strange parade of character traits,
- 9:47Speaker 1: character traits that would be what, like whether it was
- 9:49Speaker 1: good to its mother or something. Um of um what
- 9:53Speaker 1: is it called phenotypes? Just biological traits? I guess yeah,
- 9:57Speaker 1: that strange parade of those that has ended yet. No
- 10:02Speaker 1: platypuses are just one of two members of monotreams mammalion monotreams. Okay,
- 10:11Speaker 1: because birds are monotreams because they poop and hatche eggs
- 10:15Speaker 1: out of the same hole called the cloaca. Yeah yeah, um,
- 10:21Speaker 1: but I guess as far as what you're saying mammals
- 10:24Speaker 1: are concerned, there's the spiny ant eater and the platypus
- 10:26Speaker 1: are the only ones who excrete and shoot eggs out
- 10:29Speaker 1: of one hole? Is that the what the kidneys? That
- 10:32Speaker 1: is spiny an eater. It looks like a porcupine with
- 10:35Speaker 1: like kind of a longer nose. Yeah. So they have
- 10:39Speaker 1: one one hole to do their business with and one
- 10:42Speaker 1: hole to lay their eggs with, which is also business.
- 10:45Speaker 1: I guess you're right, and that is very much bird like.
- 10:49Speaker 1: But like I said, the eye structure is more reptilian.
- 10:52Speaker 1: So you said the eggs were leathery, that's pretty reptilian. Yeah,
- 10:55Speaker 1: they're just all over the map. It gets even stranger
- 10:58Speaker 1: than that that. What else we go let's let's look
- 11:00Speaker 1: a little deeper on that duck bill. There's tiny little pores. Right.
- 11:05Speaker 1: For a long time, scientists were like, how we know
- 11:07Speaker 1: that these things when they dive, their bottom feeders, they
- 11:09Speaker 1: feed on shellfish, insects, things that live along the muck
- 11:13Speaker 1: of the bottom of the river. Um, we know that
- 11:16Speaker 1: they close their eyes and they close their nostrils when
- 11:19Speaker 1: they dive, So how are they locating food? And they
- 11:23Speaker 1: figured out that there's tiny little holes on their duck
- 11:25Speaker 1: bill that um have electro receptors in them, just like
- 11:29Speaker 1: a shark. Yeah. Like I think we've talked multiple times
- 11:32Speaker 1: about the nose of a shark. That's why you punch
- 11:35Speaker 1: the shark in the nose, and that's how they feed
- 11:37Speaker 1: is because that will disrupt their their brain if you
- 11:40Speaker 1: give them a good sock in those electrical receptors. And yeah,
- 11:44Speaker 1: and it's very similar this. Um. They they sense movement
- 11:48Speaker 1: through these receptors and they're blind to everything, and this
- 11:51Speaker 1: is how they find the shell fish and all that stuff. Yeah,
- 11:54Speaker 1: these receptors are so sensitive that even just the tiny
- 11:57Speaker 1: movement of an insect's leg, the change in the electrical
- 12:01Speaker 1: current in the water that that produces their electro receptors
- 12:04Speaker 1: pick up. That's how they go eat, and they get
- 12:06Speaker 1: a scoop ful of food and they kind of pocket
- 12:10Speaker 1: it in their cheek for a little while until they
- 12:12Speaker 1: come back up. And then once they do, they use
- 12:14Speaker 1: a bit of the grit on the river bottom to
- 12:17Speaker 1: help with their teeth plates or whatever you call it,
- 12:20Speaker 1: to grind the food downs. Well, their their horny plates
- 12:25Speaker 1: are aided with gravel. Yeah, Ok, then they choose. So
- 12:28Speaker 1: all right, we're starting to get kind of a handle
- 12:30Speaker 1: on this thing, right, So that's got to be the
- 12:31Speaker 1: last weird thing, right, it is not we we've already
- 12:34Speaker 1: mentioned it. But they produce venom. They're one of only
- 12:38Speaker 1: three types of mammals that produce vendom. So think about this.
- 12:42Speaker 1: You've got the kidness, the spiny anneater. It's the only
- 12:48Speaker 1: other monitoring but it doesn't have a duck bill. It
- 12:50Speaker 1: doesn't play because it doesn't do all this other weird stuff.
- 12:53Speaker 1: You've got a certain kind of shrew and selinodones dons.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Uh they are. They produce phantom, right, but they also
- 13:05Speaker 1: don't have duck bills. They also don't have a lecture.
- 13:06Speaker 1: A senters duck built Platypuses are the strangest, hands down
- 13:11Speaker 1: animal around. Hodgepods is the best way to describe them.
- 13:15Speaker 1: They are a hodgepods and they straddle all these different
- 13:17Speaker 1: um different classes. And in the end, I saw an
- 13:21Speaker 1: interview with one lady who had worked on the genome project,
- 13:24Speaker 1: which we'll get to, and she was like, when you're
- 13:26Speaker 1: talking genetics like this, she was like, weird is good.
- 13:28Speaker 1: She's like, this is awesome for us because it shows uh.
- 13:32Speaker 1: I think she called it um informative variation. And so
- 13:37Speaker 1: if you learn about all these weird things that a
- 13:40Speaker 1: platypus has and it's in its genetic code, it can
- 13:43Speaker 1: help fill in because we're mammals too, some of the
- 13:45Speaker 1: stuff that we may not know about and ways that
- 13:48Speaker 1: we are different and similar. It just helps inform you know,
- 13:52Speaker 1: everything basically all there with a little genome of the platypus, right,
- 13:56Speaker 1: And actually not only the differences are good, but also
- 14:00Speaker 1: any similarities between us and them also shows well, this
- 14:04Speaker 1: is a very very ancient trait since they branched off
- 14:06Speaker 1: of mammals a hundred and sixty six million years ago.
- 14:09Speaker 1: Like you have any venomous stabber in your heel, right now.
- 14:17Speaker 1: I try not to use it sometimes, you know, it's
- 14:21Speaker 1: it's easier to just not use than other times. But yes,
- 14:24Speaker 1: I do well, and they actually do. They have venom,
- 14:27Speaker 1: and I think it's that just the males have that
- 14:29Speaker 1: spur on the hind foot. Yeah, and they mostly produce
- 14:32Speaker 1: the venom during spring, which is why they think that
- 14:34Speaker 1: it's probably used to fight with other males. They live solitary. Yeah,
- 14:39Speaker 1: that would make sense because the females are born with
- 14:41Speaker 1: one and it falls off, so they wouldn't need one
- 14:44Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, and then so males will fight with
- 14:46Speaker 1: one another, four females mate and then take off, and
- 14:50Speaker 1: then that's that. Like everybody's kind of lives on their
- 14:52Speaker 1: own over like a set amount of territory as a platypus. Right,
- 14:56Speaker 1: But that that venom doesn't kill other platypus is, but
- 15:00Speaker 1: it could kill a dog and it has before. Yeah,
- 15:03Speaker 1: I'm surprised it doesn't kill another platypus. They might have
- 15:05Speaker 1: some resistance, that's what I think. Yeah, it's got to
- 15:07Speaker 1: because they're smaller than most dogs exactly. Um, it hasn't
- 15:12Speaker 1: ever killed a human, but humans have been known to
- 15:15Speaker 1: get stung by these things, and brother. Does it hurt?
- 15:18Speaker 1: And the reason it hurts is because it is a
- 15:22Speaker 1: mammalian venom and we have no known cure or treatment
- 15:26Speaker 1: for the pain caused by that. So if you are
- 15:29Speaker 1: stung by one of them, you are totally on your
- 15:32Speaker 1: own as far as pain management goes. There's nothing that
- 15:35Speaker 1: can be done. You're just sitting there in agony for
- 15:37Speaker 1: like a week or two until it works itself out. Yeah.
- 15:40Speaker 1: I think it's supposed to suck pretty bad, like swelling
- 15:42Speaker 1: and just lots of pain, right, And like you said,
- 15:45Speaker 1: if there's nothing that can be done, you just ride
- 15:47Speaker 1: around and curse the platypus, I guess. And that's why
- 15:50Speaker 1: you hold them by the tail too. By the way,
- 15:51Speaker 1: if you ever got to grab a platypus, grab him
- 15:54Speaker 1: by the tail because they don't mind. Yeah, and they
- 15:57Speaker 1: can't well yeah, but a possum doesn't have a spur
- 15:59Speaker 1: in the No. But they'll bite you, Oh man, they will.
- 16:02Speaker 1: They're mean. I don't know if that's true actually, but
- 16:05Speaker 1: they hiss. Oh no, they're real means, are they. Yeah,
- 16:07Speaker 1: they'll try to bite you. They'll try to curl up.
- 16:09Speaker 1: If you hold the end of their tail, they'll curl
- 16:11Speaker 1: themselves up trying to get to your wrist, which you
- 16:13Speaker 1: really can't blame them. They're trying to get you to
- 16:15Speaker 1: let them go. But yeah, they'll bite you. They'll they'll
- 16:19Speaker 1: kill you in your whole family if you'd let them.
- 16:21Speaker 1: I remember I was actually one of my first dates
- 16:23Speaker 1: with my high school girlfriend. We know, it may have
- 16:27Speaker 1: been my first date. Actually I walked her back up
- 16:29Speaker 1: to the front porch at the end of the night
- 16:31Speaker 1: and it was that, you know, it's like something on
- 16:32Speaker 1: Norman Rockwell, like, all right, I'm gonna get that first kiss.
- 16:35Speaker 1: We walked up on the porch and it was probably
- 16:37Speaker 1: like four by four or small, and there was a
- 16:39Speaker 1: freaking possum up there that got stuck like trying to
- 16:43Speaker 1: get out, and was just we were sharing this very
- 16:45Speaker 1: small space with this bowesome like hissing at us and
- 16:48Speaker 1: screaming at us, and it made for a very memorable
- 16:52Speaker 1: into the evening. I'm sure. And I don't think I
- 16:54Speaker 1: got the kissing. I know. I thought, you're gonna say
- 16:57Speaker 1: her dad came out to meet you, and he turned
- 16:58Speaker 1: out to be a giant post them that didn't happen. Um,
- 17:03Speaker 1: what else we were talking about the Platypus Genome Project.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Do you sound like you know more about that than me. Well,
- 17:08Speaker 1: they did this, um a hundred scientists got together in
- 17:11Speaker 1: two thousand eight and said, you know what, if we
- 17:13Speaker 1: can figure this thing out, maybe we can help inform
- 17:15Speaker 1: our own, you know, human species. And uh. One thing
- 17:20Speaker 1: they did found out is that we have two chromosomes.
- 17:24Speaker 1: We have a pair if your female give me xx
- 17:27Speaker 1: if you're male gam x y. Birds have ZW for
- 17:30Speaker 1: female zz for male. Platypuses have is the platypuses, Yeah, okay,
- 17:35Speaker 1: they have ten chromosomes, sex chromosomes, and they don't know why.
- 17:40Speaker 1: It's that complicated. So females have ten xs and males
- 17:45Speaker 1: have x y x y x y x y x y.
- 17:48Speaker 1: And the deal is they're similar birds in that their
- 17:52Speaker 1: X one chromosome has eleven genes that are found in
- 17:55Speaker 1: almo million X chromosomes, but their X five gene carries
- 17:58Speaker 1: something called d MRT one, and that's found on the
- 18:01Speaker 1: Z chromosomes of birds. So they sort of share these
- 18:05Speaker 1: sex chromosomes with regular mammals and birds. But they have
- 18:09Speaker 1: ten sets of them. I'm not tin sets, five sets,
- 18:11Speaker 1: and they're superfluous like there's no reason for them to
- 18:13Speaker 1: have this. They haven't figured it out yet, huh. And
- 18:15Speaker 1: they're still working on that, I guess. But that was
- 18:17Speaker 1: definitely like an interesting find. And they're they're eighty percent
- 18:20Speaker 1: mammal or they share eighty percent of their DNA with mammals, right,
- 18:24Speaker 1: So that means if they also share some with birds
- 18:28Speaker 1: and they branched off of mammals a hundred and sixty
- 18:30Speaker 1: six million years ago and went off on their own,
- 18:33Speaker 1: then um, that would mean that we're we possibly are
- 18:37Speaker 1: descended from birds as well. Yeah, it definitely writes that question. Um.
- 18:40Speaker 1: And my other question is this like the venom, Like
- 18:45Speaker 1: it's very similar in composition to reptile venom even though
- 18:48Speaker 1: it's mammalian produced. But they figured out from the Platypus
- 18:52Speaker 1: Genome project that it came up independently. Yeah, they didn't
- 18:56Speaker 1: get it from like a reptilian ancestor. So it almost
- 19:00Speaker 1: like the platypus is almost like this idea that nature
- 19:03Speaker 1: has a finite number of tools and its tool kit
- 19:07Speaker 1: to handle things like reproduction, defense, whatever, and the platypus
- 19:12Speaker 1: represents like all these things just kind of evolving independently
- 19:16Speaker 1: on its own. After it branched off a hundred and
- 19:18Speaker 1: sixty six million years ago. It's pretty neat. Yeah, I
- 19:21Speaker 1: mean it's maybe the platypus there in lines the key
- 19:24Speaker 1: to it all. Who knows, I sincerely hope not. It's
- 19:27Speaker 1: a very strange creature. Well, at the very least, it's
- 19:30Speaker 1: it could help us locate and identify new genes and
- 19:33Speaker 1: then sequences that could turn those genes on and off
- 19:36Speaker 1: in us and uh yes, supposedly ovarian cancer there's some
- 19:40Speaker 1: DNA and varying cancer tumors that's found in platypus sex chromosomes.
- 19:47Speaker 1: So who knows that? That was as far as they
- 19:49Speaker 1: got in what I read. They just discovered that, so
- 19:52Speaker 1: they didn't know what to do with it yet. Yeah.
- 19:54Speaker 1: I think this was a great like load up on
- 19:56Speaker 1: this one people for your next cocktail party, because everyone's like, yea, yeah,
- 20:00Speaker 1: I get it. They got referring, they got a duck bill,
- 20:02Speaker 1: but you can hit him with a bunch of more
- 20:04Speaker 1: cool stuff. Yeah, like, oh yeah, what about the spur
- 20:07Speaker 1: in the heel? Yeah? What about these chromosomes? How do
- 20:09Speaker 1: you like them? Apples? Like the apples? Put that in
- 20:12Speaker 1: your pipe and smoking, right, So that's it. For platypus
- 20:16Speaker 1: is for now until they find some other weird thing
- 20:18Speaker 1: about it, right, yeah, yeah, do you got anything else? Um?
- 20:22Speaker 1: If you want to learn more about platypus is just
- 20:25Speaker 1: type duck bill into the search bar at how stuff
- 20:28Speaker 1: works dot com. It will bring up this amazing article. Um.
- 20:32Speaker 1: And actually no, this article is written by Conger how
- 20:35Speaker 1: stuff Works Ryer, it's on animal Planet. To check out
- 20:38Speaker 1: animal planet dot com and try searching for duck Bill platypus.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Very cool. And and now it's time for listener mal right, great,
- 20:47Speaker 1: all right, Josh, I'm gonna call this from Penelope. Okay,
- 20:50Speaker 1: how simple is that? Hey, guys, big fan. I remember
- 20:54Speaker 1: when how gender reassignment works came up. It was a
- 20:57Speaker 1: little worried because I fall into the genderquer slash transgender
- 21:01Speaker 1: spectrum somewhere. That's all she says. As most people who
- 21:06Speaker 1: try to talk about it in a non offensive way,
- 21:08Speaker 1: UH usually fail. Y'all did a really good job, and
- 21:10Speaker 1: I've had faith ever since then. But I have one
- 21:13Speaker 1: note in the CPR podcast and you think it happeness related, right,
- 21:17Speaker 1: I know because I've read this email, So you're not
- 21:20Speaker 1: thinking that y'all talked about giving blood and how everyone
- 21:23Speaker 1: should give blood. UM, I think in times like these
- 21:26Speaker 1: it's important to keep in mind there's a huge population
- 21:28Speaker 1: of people in the world who cannot give blood because
- 21:31Speaker 1: of the backwards and outdated thinking of the Red Cross.
- 21:34Speaker 1: Her words, I'm of course talking about anyone who has
- 21:37Speaker 1: had sex with a man, who has had sex with
- 21:39Speaker 1: a man ms MS men who have sex with men
- 21:44Speaker 1: are indefinitely banned from giving blood. Women who have sex
- 21:48Speaker 1: with M s M have a one year waiting window
- 21:51Speaker 1: before they can wait M. I didn't know this. Uh.
- 21:54Speaker 1: This thinking obviously came from the UH media created aid
- 21:59Speaker 1: scare that we are just now coming out of. However,
- 22:02Speaker 1: the Red Cross continues this discriminatory policy even though they're
- 22:07Speaker 1: testing abilities that we have are incredibly incredibly accurate. To
- 22:11Speaker 1: quickly sum it up, guys in the future, when we
- 22:13Speaker 1: talk about getting blood in your general daily life on
- 22:15Speaker 1: the podcast wherever, it's a good idea to say something
- 22:18Speaker 1: like those who are allowed should get blood. And so
- 22:21Speaker 1: I didn't know this, and it's always great to get
- 22:23Speaker 1: this kind of message out. So thank you, that is,
- 22:26Speaker 1: she says, love, which is very sweet. Penelope Poppers, thanks
- 22:29Speaker 1: a lot of Penelope. That's awesome. Yeah, thank you for
- 22:31Speaker 1: pointing out it's extraordinarily important. I would say, yeah, and
- 22:35Speaker 1: you know, if that's the case, and I say, get
- 22:36Speaker 1: with it and UH allow people to give blood. I
- 22:39Speaker 1: fits safe. You just directed a message to the Red
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