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Drivers Only: Championship Episode with Will Brown, Broc Feeney and James Courtney · Rusty's Garage

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  A listener production.
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  It's time for the final ep of what's been a great first season of Drivers Only.
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  We were thrilled here at Listener that Supercars chose Rusty's Garage so you could enjoy it in pod form, and they come in to record each episode to our studios, and we capture them both audio and vision, so it's published on the Sports YouTube channel too.
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  To the fans who listen, those who watch, thank you all so much.
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  Merry Christmas to you, your family and friends.
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  We are looking forward to an even bigger episode
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  and better year in 2025.
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  But we're going to finish with a bang.
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  Fittingly for this one, we have the new champion with us today, Will Brown.
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  He is joined to debrief the Adelaide 500.
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  What a memorable weekend that was to look back on the season in general, celebrations and, of course, a few laughs, by his teammate Brock Feeney, who did a super job on The Last Step, and by James Courtney, who's been superb driving these shows when he's been on.
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  In keeping with our promise to let these be, the drivers, in their words, I'm about to step out and leave the panel with the keys.
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  This is the season finale of Drivers Only.
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  Enjoy.
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  Welcome everyone to the last episode, episode eight of The Drivers Only.
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  We have Brock, second in the championship, and the new crowned 2024 V8 Supercars champion.
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  I was hoping you were actually going to bring the trophy in here, mate.
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  I wanted to make sure my name was still on it.
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  I think it's lost from someone.
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  Will Brown, by the way.
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  Round of applause, everyone.
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  Thank you.
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  I don't even know where the trophy is right now, but no, it feels pretty cool.
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  You have to be pretty excited, mate.
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  It was a cracking... And you broke the record for the only guy to ever get a podium in every round.
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  Yeah, well, in the last 40 years, but... Oh, that's pretty good.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm like, it's on.
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  Because for a while, I thought, like, the GOAT, when he won, like, 800 championships and McLaughlin, for sure I thought those guys would have...
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  I thought McLaughlin would have done it, to be honest.
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  He had, like, a crazy stat of, like, his 2.8... 2.3 average finishing position.
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  So I thought...
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  Bathurst probably brings a lot of people undone and sand down and stuff.
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  Yeah, that's a good point.
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  But, yeah, I feel like Saturday when I wrapped it up, I was like, yeah, it's pretty cool but nothing's changed.
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  I couldn't get to do a burnout.
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  And then the Sunday race, thanks a lot for helping me out with the win.
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  But, yeah, I was – You did well.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  I would have had to.
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  Yeah, but I was pretty stoked with the Sunday race.
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  That made it sort of set in a bit.
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  As I went past, I was a little bit deeper in the field than Brock.
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  As I went past and I saw you there, I was like, oh, that poor bugger.
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  But then I was like, oh, you won't care that it's the last race.
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  And then all of a sudden you're behind me.
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  I'm like, fuck him.
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  Yeah, I know.
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  I'm like, just go fast.
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  Yeah.
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  Holy smokes, you're quick.
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  I don't know.
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  I don't know where it came from.
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  I remember turning around.
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  I'm like, oh, this is going to suck.
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  I'm going to finish 15th and then have to do a burnout.
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  Like, you know, not have to, but it's going to be not as exciting.
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  And then I was like, oh, just a little bit of fun, see who I can pick off.
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  And then I think it was after the first stop.
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  He's like, yeah, you're P8 and that's third in front of you.
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  And I'm like, how did we get back here?
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  But the car was fast.
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  Yeah, both of you guys were stupid fast over the whole weekend.
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  wasn't team orders.
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  There wasn't a multi-21 or anything come over the radio.
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  Did you hear the little meow on the radio?
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  That's our call.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, so thanks, Brock, for doing it.
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  Yeah.
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  What was he doing anyway?
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  Like, why was he trying to race you?
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  So, okay.
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  So, I was told.
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  I would say that it's his fault.
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  I was told, like, Chas has been told pretty much to, like, let you go.
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  So, as soon as he did that, I'm like, oh, righty-o.
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  Like, I'll just show the nose.
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  Game on here.
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  So, yeah, obviously showed the nose and tried to back out.
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  Because I mean, if he just let you pass and rolled around behind you, he still would have won.
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  Yeah, he said to me afterwards, he's like, oh, I'd let you go with 12 to go.
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  I was worried you're going to pull 15 seconds on me.
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  I'm like, mate, like, I'm not that fast.
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  I was fast at that point of the race, but we both had a bit of damage after the pit stop.
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  I remember getting into third and I'm like, imagine if these two guys crashed and I won this from last, and then they're like, Chas is in the fence at turn five, and I'm trying to watch the big screen.
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  I'm looking like, did Brock turn him?
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  What's happened here?
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  You're like, I'm going to get there.
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  I'm like half like, don't mean to be rude, but I still wanted Chaz to win because obviously I just put him in the fence.
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  So when I looked up at this, I'm looking up at the screen at eight and I can just see like Will on him.
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  I'm like, oh my.
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  Oh, yeah, it looked bad.
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  But it's funny like.
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  It's funny now.
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  I don't even know.
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  Like people online are bagging saying like, oh, I turned you for the other car.
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  But we're team players, but I'm not that committed for you.
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  If the team came over the radio and said, oh, you just fence this guy for Brock.
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  I'm like.
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  I'm not going to do that.
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  You'll be negotiating.
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  How much money?
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  Yeah, like if they paid me a lot, I'll probably...
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  There'll be a lot of meowing on the radio.
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  Ten meows and I'll do it and that means dollars.
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  So how did you come up with the burnout?
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  I heard there was a little bit of stress.
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  Yeah.
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  Into the weekend of how I was going to celebrate if I did get it.
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  I was a bit superstitious, which I never am going into the weekend.
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  We both wouldn't touch a trophy.
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  They wanted us to.
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  And people were saying, oh, what's your burnout?
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  What are you going to do here?
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  Going into the weekend, I'm like, I'm not planning anything.
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  Because you have a crash Saturday, Sunday happens as well, and you might not win the championship.
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  So I said, not until I locked it up will I start thinking.
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  So...
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  I rolled in Sunday and I'm like, how am I going to do something here?
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  So I got in the car and tried.
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  I was like, well, you know, obviously Shane got out of the car.
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  You can't beat Shane's.
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  Everyone's like, it's not as good as Shane's.
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  Righto, mate, I know that.
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  I'm not going to beat you.
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  He's been leaving to America and it didn't matter if I blew a tyre and turned him.
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  Yeah, that's right.
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  Like I was like, I can't beat that.
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  So, you know, you're always going to let people down.
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  But I was like, oh, I want to get out of the car, like see how Russell Ingle did it.
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  But it was so hard because the pedals, but then obviously the new carbon bit down in our footwell and how far we sit on the inside.
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  I was having to wrap.
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  So I wrapped my right foot under my left and so right foot on the brake and left foot on the accelerator to actually be able to get out the side and then I'm like, oh, no.
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  And then I was able to pull a bit of parting out.
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  I could pull the parting out.
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  I saw you reach down and grab something.
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  So I could pull the parting out and then we made it that I could pull my pedals back as far as I could.
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  So I did that and then I tried it all but obviously my hands device, then me being unflexible, I couldn't get out with my hands device.
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  I'm getting stuck on the device.
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  I'm getting stuck on the thing and I'm like, shit, this isn't going to plan.
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  You know, you're trying to like, you're trying to make sure.
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  One sort of move inside the car, you know.
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  You know, you're trying to get out of the car while not crashing, while keeping the, like, you know, bending your leg, trying to keep accelerating.
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  And you knack it from doing 250 cars.
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  And I was pretty stuffed.
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  So my plan was originally that the straight line burnout I did up the main straight, I'd be out of the car the whole way up there.
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  But as I got going and it kept creeping sideways, I'm like, I'm not going to be able to control it properly.
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  So when I did the flick spin and stopped, I was like, I'll get into it here and get out.
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  But there's some cool photos.
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  Like I did get out a fair way for a while, but then, yeah, I just couldn't keep my foot on the gas.
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  Like I was just struggling.
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  As soon as I would have opened the door and got up, I would have just been...
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  Crap for myself.
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  That I was going to fall out.
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  Imagine you fall out and you just see your car going down the road.
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  Yeah, I know.
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  I didn't really think of that at the time.
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  Did you hop with the belt around one arm or something?
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  Yeah.
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  My number one mechanic's like, just don't fall out, whatever you're doing.
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  I'm like, I wasn't thinking about that.
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  But then I got a mad cramp with my left foot and I'm like trying to manage this cramp.
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  But...
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  Yeah, it didn't go to plan.
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  I'll have to, you know, you'd have to look at that, wouldn't you, again, if you did it?
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  But I thought it was still cool.
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  I thought it was good.
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  You blew the bloody tyres off the thing, ripped the guards off it.
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  That's all the crowd wants.
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  They want smoke.
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  They don't care if you're in or out of the thing.
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  It was cool.
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  It was pretty surreal, actually.
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  Like, that moment probably made it set in, like, grabbing the trophy and hopping on the roof and everyone cheering.
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  Like, it was probably something you wouldn't forget, that's for sure.
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  You got on the roof a bit smoother than sand down.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  He couldn't get on until sand down.
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  He's like... Couldn't quite get up there.
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  He slipped off.
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  Need a little step ladder beside it.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  I couldn't even...
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  I don't know if I went about it the wrong way, but I was like a little garden gnome trying to hop on the roof.
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  I'm like trying to climb up.
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  It just did not look good.
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  It's like you're jumping onto the bunk beds at home.
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  You just run up and try to hold yourself onto it.
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  So I got out and got on the roof a bit more elegant this time.
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  But...
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  Yeah, no, that was a cool one.
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  It's a cool place to wrap the championship up, isn't it?
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  Like, it's such a, like, for me, I reckon, like, Bathurst is cool, but for me, outside of Bathurst, I reckon that's the best weekend of the year.
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  Well, I think there's only three events that are at that level, and that's Gold Coast, Bathurst, and Adelaide.
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  Like, you know what I mean?
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  Adelaide's the best, but, you know, the others put on a show.
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  But just all the stuff, like, it was just so much going on.
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  Like, the sprint cars, seeing how many people were at that and looked like pretty good racing.
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  Supercar.
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  I think I finished the press conference and walking out, and then the Supercross is on.
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  You could watch it from where you left, so I was watching the Supercross for a while.
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  It was a pretty mega weekend.
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  What about the stadium tracks?
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  Oh, mate, did you see?
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  What's it, Guy, Shea Davis?
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  He drove out of the pit lane and did one jump and then rolled the thing and rode it off.
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  He didn't even get down to the end of the strike.
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  And then the next one, the fuel tank fell out.
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  Yeah, with Mingo.
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  Oh, I'm trying to get flashbacks.
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  Oh, man.
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  They were two huge crashes.
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  We were walking into the track, and I said, whoom.
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  And I'm like, oh, my God, that sounded big.
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  And then a fireball.
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  Yeah.
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  You wonder how it actually falls out.
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  Like, it was a decent shunt, but, like, it shot out pretty quickly.
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  Yeah, and it's on fire.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, no, it's not a safety concern.
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  It's a fuel tank.
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  It's like the 80s F1, isn't it?
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  Is it Martin Brundle was laying on the track strapped to the fuel tank?
• 9:48
  No, it wasn't Martin.
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  It was Donnelly.
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  Mitch doesn't know.
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  That's English racing.
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  He's American.
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  But, yeah, was there anything through the weekend where you're like, this isn't going to come together like it?
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  Was it one point?
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  No.
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  Yeah, I'm not sure.
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  Like, I dropped back a little – well, I didn't drop back, but I was fifth in that first race, and then I stuffed up the pit stop.
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  I had my steering wheel locked so the boys couldn't get the front tyres off, so I came back out in fifth, and Brock had done a few of the tyres and was first, and I knew – I'd calculated before – that if he finished first, I had to finish fourth, I think it was, or third.
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  I had to finish third, and then I was wrapped up on Saturday.
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  So I'm like –
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  so I must have been forced.
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  I was like, oh, this is going to go down to Sunday.
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  And then if you have a DNF, like Brock's fast, he could definitely win again on Sunday.
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  Like, you know, it's, it's still a bit of risk there.
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  So I was quite lucky.
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  Tickford helped us out putting the wrong tires on for, for Tom and Cam.
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  And I got out of the pits and, and jumped Matt Payne and then got out and passed those guys.
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  So, um, yeah, it was probably only that little bit of concern on Saturday when I was like, yeah, it's going to come down to Sunday and, and see what happens there.
• 10:53
  But, um,
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  Yeah, I think no matter what, like next year is going to be crazy going in with four guys.
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  Like those four guys that make it, the pressure is going to be pretty high.
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  Like not that, you know, the pressure got to me, but you can feel the pressure on that.
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  Like especially Gold Coast and those places where you're like, yeah, you're leading the championship.
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  If you make a mistake, it's really going to come close.
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  You know, you've been in that position, obviously.
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  It's, you know, it's a lot of pressure.
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  So next year is going to be cool for the fans, but it's going to be a massive last run, that's for sure.
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  So are you like...
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  running through your head, this is just like next year, I can just show everyone I can win the last race.
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  Sort of.
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  Because you were so... Like, both you guys were quick, but you were pretty dominant on the weekend.
• 11:33
  Yeah.
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  Like, before the weekend, like at pre-brief, I was like to my engineer, I'm like...
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  I'm taking this guy out.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  Don't tell anyone.
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  I'm like...
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  we need to treat this like next year.
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  Like we literally have to go there and we have to win both races, especially Saturday.
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  Saturday was like, for me, like I didn't look past that.
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  And, um, which is great.
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  Cause it's a good position to practice for next year.
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  And I remember in Saturday's race, like we all knew the calculations and I'm in third and Randall and Waters were that quick.
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  I'm like, genuinely we'll could come forth in this race, but I'm just like,
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  how the fuck am I going to win this?
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  At the start, I didn't think I was fast enough.
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  But, yeah, we made it work and we won the race.
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  But, yeah, it's great practice for next year.
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  Didn't you win by, like, some stupid margin as well on Saturday?
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  Wasn't it?
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  Saturday was 12.
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  Not just 12.
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  Cheeky little 12.
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  It was nearly 20, I think, on Sunday.
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  It was, like, 19 on Sunday.
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  If you didn't take the bloke out, it would have been less.
• 12:32
  Yeah.
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  You know, you had to claim 20 and you're fenced in.
• 12:35
  Yeah.
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  12 wasn't enough yeah that's right but um yeah no we were fast it was good like I think obviously um I'm pretty happy it's at Adelaide the finale like it obviously goes good but you could rock up next year and be it's such a fun track though isn't it like in it it's one of the like places where we go and there's legitimately a few passing positions like there's not everyone has to wait for the one lap for the hairpin for a lunge or anything like there's one of the best ones of the year I nearly reckon yeah for passing it's
• 13:06
  produces always great racing.
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  And how is qualifying?
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  Like, that was huge.
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  The shootout man nailed it.
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  That was a lot of the gods.
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  I called up the shootout.
• 13:19
  But that qualifying session was nuts.
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  There won on Saturday.
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  That was like...
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  None of you guys got a lap on?
• 13:25
  No.
• 13:26
  No, we did.
• 13:27
  On Saturday?
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  I did my fastest lap of the weekend in that one.
• 13:31
  On that one?
• 13:31
  Yeah, on that one.
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  So I was pretty stoked.
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  I've got a good lap in.
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  I guess we're first out of pit lane, so it makes it easy.
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  Yeah, first and last.
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  We cleaned it up.
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  Booking.
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  But coming around the corner and they're like, yeah, there's a shunt at turn eight.
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  And I've come around and I've seen all these cars parked on top.
• 13:48
  I'm like, is there oil down?
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  Is there an Aussie race car going to roll out of this thing?
• 13:52
  Yeah, that's what I said in the press conference.
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  It's definitely a Camaro.
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  I was coming up and I...
• 13:59
  I saw the yellow flag and I could see smoke.
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  And Reynolds was right in front of me.
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  So I'm like, all right, this is massive.
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  So I just rolled out of it.
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  And old mate's like pulling gears out of seven up to eight.
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  And I'm like, never get the yellow flag.
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  And he just tips in.
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  And I'm like way back.
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  And then as I come around the corner, like his dampers bouncing around, bounces off the bonnet on my car.
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  And then there's a wheel going down the track.
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  It was wild.
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  It was so...
• 14:25
  Such a big accident and it was so late.
• 14:28
  What are the chances of two cars shunting, like Cairns goes right fence and then meet up on top of each other?
• 14:35
  Yeah.
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  They all did the exact same thing.
• 14:37
  Stanaway, him, or Hill and Reynolds all clipped that inside.
• 14:41
  Yeah.
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  It's been a big talking point after the weekend is, oh, like, you know, you see fans on Facebook, oh, they've got to change it.
• 14:47
  It's so dangerous.
• 14:48
  Well, how many corners do you want to change in motorsport around the world then?
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  Like, it's what makes, you know, when you go to Adelaide, you think, oh, yeah, righto, this is going to be a big weekend.
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  Make sure I don't shunt it turn eight, you know, but I've got to be quick through there.
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  It's what makes it exciting.
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  Like, I don't think there was – you've raced there for years.
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  Well, there wasn't anything different on the weekend.
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  People just made mistakes.
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  Like –
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  Even the shadows, I don't remember the shadows being a thing.
• 15:12
  I'm sure they were there.
• 15:14
  Guys over the years, heaps of guys have hit that inside wall.
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  And for me to change it or to say now we have to, I think that's crap.
• 15:22
  The reason why we go, we love it and the fans like watching it because it's frigging exciting.
• 15:26
  Yeah.
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  And that adrenaline rush.
• 15:28
  We all raced in the Middle East and it was just like...
• 15:31
  or at Talon Bend when the walls are so far away, you don't get any sense of speed.
• 15:35
  It's not fun.
• 15:36
  Like you have a massive moment, you drive off in the grass and come back, but there, it's cool when you get punished.
• 15:41
  Like it's not cool for the teams, but it's such a rush and it does sort the men from the boys and over the race to be consistent.
• 15:49
  And then in those high pressure situations, like both of you guys were in to be able to nail it every lap through our qualifying practice into the race with all that pressure.
• 15:58
  It's...
• 15:59
  what this whole championship's all about.
• 16:01
  And I think if they opened it up or changed it, it would be crap.
• 16:04
  Oh, yeah.
• 16:06
  I mean, you'd have to change every corner at Bathurst.
• 16:08
  Yeah.
• 16:09
  Like, you know, there's obviously...
• 16:11
  I think it's more just like two guys obviously didn't pass the concussion test.
• 16:15
  I think that's obviously what raised it.
• 16:16
  They did that years ago.
• 16:17
  How many guys wouldn't do it?
• 16:18
  Yeah, but I can't even pass that on a good day.
• 16:21
  I'm struggling to write my name, let alone anything else.
• 16:24
  Yeah, no, that was...
• 16:26
  It was a mega weekend.
• 16:27
  But then on Sunday with Jackson as well, that was right in front of me too.
• 16:31
  That was big.
• 16:32
  That was big.
• 16:33
  A lot of stuff torn up.
• 16:35
  And for Team 18 to have come out of Bathurst with that chassis written off, then that thing is destroyed again.
• 16:42
  I don't understand.
• 16:42
  What's up with people?
• 16:43
  Like, obviously, supercars can tap into our mic when we don't press the radio button.
• 16:48
  They can still get our audio.
• 16:51
  What's up with people yelling during crashes?
• 16:54
  I just tense up.
• 16:54
  You had this debate last night about it.
• 16:56
  I just tense up, and I'm like...
• 16:58
  Like, I don't even say anything.
• 17:00
  But how's Reynolds at Bathurst and there?
• 17:03
  Like half-talker coaching himself.
• 17:04
  Yeah, coaching himself through the – and then pain.
• 17:06
  Pain, you know, is like, oh, shit, like going into the fence.
• 17:09
  And I'm like, I don't say a single thing.
• 17:11
  I might get a grunt as you hit the wall.
• 17:13
  They don't want to show that audio.
• 17:17
  No, no, no.
• 17:18
  But that was pretty funny.
• 17:20
  Reynolds down the hill, like –
• 17:22
  I didn't terribly crash, one of my great mates.
• 17:24
  But when they kept showing me that, like, and I just could not laugh.
• 17:27
  I'm like, what is this?
• 17:29
  Like, how is he just, you know?
• 17:31
  What did he say on Sunday at Adelaide?
• 17:34
  It was like, oh, shit.
• 17:35
  Yeah.
• 17:36
  Oh, whoa, whoa.
• 17:37
  Yeah.
• 17:37
  And then afterwards you could see he was just a bit winded.
• 17:41
  I don't know.
• 17:41
  I think it's, yeah, it's funny.
• 17:43
  But, yeah, I never really talked.
• 17:44
  But they used to say Cedar used to talk to himself the whole way around and be like, come on, mate, get on the gas, get on it, and talk to himself, which would have been pretty funny.
• 17:52
  But, yeah, for me...
• 17:54
  I'm too busy trying to save it.
• 17:55
  Even with three wheels on it, I still think I've got it.
• 17:58
  Yeah.
• 17:58
  Saturday's race sounds, you know, probably from our position, you can see why we're probably a bit biased, but I'm glad they left the quali and didn't run it...
• 18:08
  Sorry, Friday, and didn't run it on Saturday.
• 18:10
  Everyone had a chance to do a lap.
• 18:11
  Everyone had a chance.
• 18:12
  These guys decided to row tyres and all of that.
• 18:14
  Everyone had a chance to do a lap.
• 18:16
  But what about the shake-up of the field?
• 18:18
  Like, Saturday's race was pretty good, I reckon.
• 18:20
  There was a lot of passing.
• 18:21
  Obviously, Sunday's was better, but...
• 18:23
  I reckon it was good that they didn't run quali again on Saturday.
• 18:28
  We can all sit here and say that.
• 18:30
  Yeah, I can probably agree.
• 18:31
  If someone else, obviously, I'd been pissed off too.
• 18:36
  Yeah.
• 18:36
  But I totally get it from the entertainment point of view.
• 18:39
  You've got all the big guys down the back.
• 18:43
  Sunday was literally like you could tell everyone had just taken their gloves off for Sunday's race.
• 18:47
  Like I got turned around.
• 18:48
  Every two corners Andrew's like on the radio, he's like, yeah, car in the fence, yellow flags up ahead.
• 18:54
  And I'm like, what is going on in this race?
• 18:55
  Did you hear Matty Payne ran into the tow vehicle?
• 18:58
  No.
• 18:59
  What?
• 18:59
  Yeah.
• 19:00
  So he plucked reverse, they're pulling him out and he got reverse and backed back into the tow truck.
• 19:06
  And that's why his wing was all bent up.
• 19:08
  No.
• 19:08
  Because he backed into it, hit it, and then drove off.
• 19:14
  Oh God, that is funny.
• 19:14
  Yeah, there was, like I was the same.
• 19:16
  I was coming around, I'm like, oh, there's another one.
• 19:18
  There's another one.
• 19:18
  Even like the Waters one.
• 19:20
  The Waters and Cooper Murray, it just didn't look.
• 19:23
  What was Cooper Murray?
• 19:24
  It looked like he turned just exit stage left, like just turned left into the wall.
• 19:27
  You just see him like get that little curb, like a little jump and just into the fence.
• 19:31
  And you're like, how did that even happen?
• 19:33
  Like must have interlocked wheels perfectly.
• 19:35
  I don't know what happened, but it was the funniest crash I think I've ever watched.
• 19:39
  I was like, what went on there?
• 19:40
  Yeah, and then I was racing with Wood and we were banging doors and we come out with Andre and Cam and that whole little shit show was happening.
• 19:49
  And you could just, as we come into the last corner, I could just see Woody coming in, dragging the front corner.
• 19:54
  So I just like plucked it back to first, hooked on the inside and they were all just like this big swarm of crap.
• 19:59
  And I was just laughing at myself.
• 20:00
  And then Cam's come out flashing me with the lights.
• 20:04
  But yeah, there was plenty of stuff going on.
• 20:07
  That's the worst one part about that track is when you rejoin, you're coming out of the pits and you're on cold tires and someone's on warm tires and you're trying to get through the first chicane, you're understeering, you're nearly through the gravel.
• 20:18
  How's the start with old Chaz just jumped that gravel trap?
• 20:22
  Yeah.
• 20:22
  When you guys were side by side, I was like, oh, this is going to end badly.
• 20:26
  Apparently I didn't leave him room was why I got let through.
• 20:31
  He'd made up for it later.
• 20:32
  Yeah, that's right.
• 20:34
  Nobody goes around there.
• 20:35
  It's a hard one though, isn't it?
• 20:36
  Yeah.
• 20:37
  I know it's always been talked about, like pole position, because if you can go through, like, it's just a hard one.
• 20:43
  Second wins now.
• 20:45
  That's the truth of it.
• 20:45
  If you're second on the grid.
• 20:47
  There.
• 20:47
  Yeah.
• 20:48
  If you're second on the grid, like, unless you go in so hard as first and put him in the fence nearly.
• 20:53
  Well, I went in deep.
• 20:55
  I'm like, oh, I'm going in.
• 20:57
  And then he's just like, he's gone like half a card pass.
• 21:00
  I'm like, holy.
• 21:01
  And then, like, we've both obviously hit the curb.
• 21:04
  I did the same thing behind it with Randall.
• 21:05
  I thought, you know, I'll get around the outside there.
• 21:07
  Which side of the year?
• 21:08
  Outside?
• 21:08
  Outside.
• 21:09
  To be honest, when I'm in that, which it hasn't been for a while, but you just gas it up.
• 21:13
  You're going through.
• 21:14
  Yeah.
• 21:14
  Yeah.
• 21:15
  It's like the first chicane at Gold Coast.
• 21:18
  Everyone's like, oh, I'll pretend to try and go through.
• 21:20
  Oh, I'll just go.
• 21:22
  Yeah.
• 21:22
  Gold Coast.
• 21:23
  Matty Payne just drives around the outside of me through and doesn't even get a penalty.
• 21:26
  That was right in front of me.
• 21:27
  Yeah.
• 21:27
  What was that about?
• 21:28
  I don't know.
• 21:29
  I do like, though, like Gold Coast's, like, staggered grid.
• 21:33
  Maybe it's not as cool, but, like, I kind of like it when it's just...
• 21:36
  It's still extremely close, but you're, like, lying.
• 21:39
  Because I think, you know, you want to...
• 21:43
  Do you guys have start races?
• 21:44
  Like, every other... Like, we... Like, Aaron and I, we're not going to win the race, so we just have our own little start race.
• 21:51
  Like, 0 to 100.
• 21:52
  Do you guys... Yeah.
• 21:53
  Every... Not like... We used to have it a lot more with me and Brodie last year.
• 21:57
  Like, it used to be, like, oh, I got you all the time.
• 22:00
  But, like, they probably don't send it out.
• 22:02
  They'll tell us at T8.
• 22:03
  But, like...
• 22:04
  I felt like Sunday, I got a mega start on Sunday, and I was like, yeah, I had to have blown the doors off Randall.
• 22:10
  And then he's right there, nearly beating me off the start.
• 22:12
  I'm like, God, he must have been pretty good.
• 22:14
  We got pretty close to you guys, but the front six were so even on the Sunday.
• 22:19
  Me and Shane went through a pit.
• 22:21
  We were both terrible.
• 22:22
  We had the worst starts to the grid, so we'd always like whoever won.
• 22:24
  Shane would always have a bad one.
• 22:26
  Yeah, he was a bit of a shocker at starts.
• 22:29
  Do you... Oh, okay, you're probably not going to tell me, but...
• 22:33
  I was just going to say for the start, do you hold a throttle?
• 22:36
  Like Garth used to start with like next to no throttle, like 20%.
• 22:40
  And just ramp it.
• 22:41
  Yeah, and ramp it.
• 22:42
  Where I'm the opposite, I'm like, fuck, I'd rather it's a wheel spin.
• 22:45
  and modulate it on the clutch then for it to stall?
• 22:48
  I'd rather just be consistent on the throttle at a percentage so that I don't have to modulate it because you've got too much going on then.
• 22:54
  Are you not slipping the clutch enough?
• 22:57
  Are you going too much gas?
• 22:58
  If you just hold it consistent, then you just work it out with the clutch from there, how much you slip it to how much wheel spin you get.
• 23:03
  But if you're going from third...
• 23:07
  Sorry, 60%, 70%.
• 23:09
  Yeah.
• 23:10
  If you go from like, you know, if you go from whatever.
• 23:13
  We'll just wind up that level and get that record.
• 23:15
  You know, let's say 20%.
• 23:17
  If you go from 20% straight to 70%, how can you modulate the wheel spin?
• 23:21
  I don't.
• 23:22
  Yeah, that's me.
• 23:22
  I'm the same.
• 23:23
  That's why I hold a throttle percentage.
• 23:25
  Yeah.
• 23:26
  But always, no matter, as soon as there's this little flinch, I've worked out it's like 7%.
• 23:32
  Whatever I set it at, I always go 7%.
• 23:34
  Yeah, that's right.
• 23:35
  I used to get on it, you get a report through.
• 23:38
  I'd get one and I'm like, mate, that's not my start percentage.
• 23:41
  And they're like, yeah, that's when you take off.
• 23:42
  I'm like, yeah, that's because I've moved like 10%.
• 23:46
  You have your little moment.
• 23:47
  Starts are always hard.
• 23:48
  They hold the lights for longer and you start getting nervous.
• 23:50
  You know how you get on your bite point or something and then you're like, oh, the lights aren't going out.
• 23:53
  This isn't good.
• 23:55
  I don't hold.
• 23:56
  I'll find.
• 23:57
  And I'm like, go back.
• 23:58
  Yeah, yeah.
• 23:59
  Yeah, you have to now, I reckon.
• 24:00
  Aaron, team mate's like, I'm like.
• 24:04
  Chaz has just squatted that.
• 24:06
  He's like on the deck, nearly.
• 24:08
  Yeah.
• 24:08
  Anyway.
• 24:09
  What do you reckon?
• 24:11
  You know, a few send-offs on the weekend, Frosty and obviously Slade doing the walk-up pit lane.
• 24:15
  What do you reckon?
• 24:16
  Yeah.
• 24:18
  I think it was cool.
• 24:19
  I think it was...
• 24:21
  I don't know why Slady said that he didn't feel that he was worthy of it.
• 24:24
  The guy's been in the championship forever.
• 24:25
  He's a mad dog, Slady.
• 24:27
  I think he definitely 100% should have walked down beside Mark.
• 24:32
  They've both been amazing for our sport, good characters, Winterbottom with all that frosty stuff and the championships and Bathurst wins and all that sort of stuff.
• 24:42
  I think they've given so much, and it was cool.
• 24:44
  It was cool to see that.
• 24:46
  It's unusual they ran into each other.
• 24:47
  How funny was that at the gala?
• 24:49
  Yeah.
• 24:50
  How funny is that?
• 24:50
  And he's like, that was supposed to be golding.
• 24:53
  Sorry, Matt, I didn't realise you.
• 24:54
  I thought it was golding.
• 24:55
  That's awesome.
• 24:55
  Yeah, not I accidentally sent you.
• 24:57
  Yeah, I sent you, but it was the wrong person.
• 24:59
  Yeah, I was supposed to get your teammate back.
• 25:00
  But I don't know, what did you guys think?
• 25:03
  I thought it sounded at the start, I was like, oh, this is a bit weird.
• 25:05
  But then when it was in the moment, I thought it was real fitting.
• 25:08
  Like as in when Sladey got to me and Frosty got to me, I was like, oh, this is pretty cool.
• 25:12
  Because you guys wouldn't have been in it when Lowndes did his, would you?
• 25:16
  No.
• 25:16
  I don't think I've ever seen someone actually do a send-off yet.
• 25:19
  No.
• 25:19
  Because with Lowndes, they did the same thing and it was, you know, everyone cheered and clapped and shook hands and stuff and then he drove to the grid first and whatever.
• 25:27
  It was pretty cool.
• 25:28
  That's pretty cool.
• 25:29
  Yeah.
• 25:29
  No, they have been pretty... You know, we're going to miss Slady.
• 25:32
  You know, I wanted to see some of the gala antics again, but he's obviously pulled it back a bit.
• 25:36
  I think Chaz may have got that medal this year.
• 25:39
  That was a bounce back, wasn't it?
• 25:41
  I don't know how he recovered.
• 25:43
  I didn't see him.
• 25:44
  Oh, my God.
• 25:44
  At the gala, like, he actually, you know, spoke well in that.
• 25:47
  Yeah, was like a different person.
• 25:49
  I think he's good at it.
• 25:50
  We have to tell the people.
• 25:51
  So for the people listening at home, Chaz had a pretty big driver's lunch and might have had a few too many, you know...
• 25:58
  And, yeah, he was pretty drunk by then, but he bounced back and did some good speeches, and he won everything.
• 26:03
  What's up with him, you know, just winning all the awards?
• 26:06
  Well, I mean, you did win the driver's championship, mate.
• 26:09
  Yeah.
• 26:10
  But I thought it was weird.
• 26:11
  I reckon they should have, like, at least got Waters up for the pole position one, because that's a good one.
• 26:16
  I think that should have had more than just something at the track.
• 26:20
  Yeah, I'm one for like, you know, everyone's like, yeah, we just want to get through the gala.
• 26:23
  But like if you win, like I think instead of doing some at the track, like we're there, we've all stayed, we've put the effort in.
• 26:30
  Like if you won an award, like a big award like that, or like last year they didn't do the team's championship or the year before or something like that, I think that stuff needs to be recognised.
• 26:39
  Even someone said like, oh, the Bathurst guys should have got up.
• 26:43
  I think the Bathurst guys did get up last year, didn't they?
• 26:45
  Wasn't that a thing?
• 26:47
  They changed it this year.
• 26:48
  I'm not sure.
• 26:50
  I'm pretty fuzzy by that time in the night.
• 26:52
  Yeah.
• 26:53
  Yeah.
• 26:53
  You had a good gala, actually.
• 26:55
  Mate, I was the sweetest guy in there.
• 26:56
  You were pretty loose, actually.
• 26:56
  Yeah.
• 26:57
  I had a great time.
• 26:58
  Zara, my daughter, came.
• 26:59
  Yeah, I just...
• 27:01
  Got on it, had a good time.
• 27:02
  It was fun.
• 27:03
  Yeah.
• 27:03
  I'm the guy on the dance floor just sweating it up, getting in.
• 27:06
  Yeah, shirts, unbuttoned a few.
• 27:07
  My Sunday night.
• 27:08
  The time was sort of all worse.
• 27:10
  I couldn't recover from my Sunday night.
• 27:12
  Mitch got me up at 6 a.m.
• 27:14
  I think, you know, it was a late finish as well.
• 27:16
  And then I'd just stuff all day.
• 27:19
  I can have a photo of you laying on the ground in your hotel in front of your partner.
• 27:23
  Was it Monday morning?
• 27:24
  That was so good.
• 27:27
  You had your team gear on still.
• 27:29
  It was awesome.
• 27:30
  I was broken, eh?
• 27:31
  I was like, oh, and I had to go do Sunrise.
• 27:33
  And I did all right for Sunrise, you know.
• 27:36
  Was that the one where you said you almost vomited or something?
• 27:39
  Oh, I just had a bit of a moment to myself during the interview.
• 27:43
  But that was fun, yeah.
• 27:45
  I had a good time.
• 27:45
  What did we do?
• 27:46
  We had a Red Bull afterparty.
• 27:47
  A few of my mates came down.
• 27:48
  The whole of Toowoomba was there pretty much.
• 27:50
  We went to a Red Bull afterparty and we knew no one.
• 27:52
  They were just all the people from Toowoomba.
• 27:54
  Yeah.
• 27:54
  And my mates from Toowoomba had a very good time.
• 27:56
  It was quite funny.
• 27:57
  We just had a lot of fun and then went out after.
• 28:00
  One nearly had a big incident.
• 28:02
  Yeah, yeah, it was pretty fun.
• 28:03
  Yeah, no, it was good.
• 28:04
  It was a good night.
• 28:05
  Sunday night was awesome.
• 28:06
  And then, yeah, I just couldn't back up Monday.
• 28:08
  I was like, yeah, I'm busted.
• 28:09
  I did a bunch of interviews and that.
• 28:11
  And then I'm like, no, I went home from the gala about 10.30.
• 28:14
  Oh, you did?
• 28:15
  Yeah, I had big plans.
• 28:17
  And then I was 10.30.
• 28:18
  I'm like, no, I'm done.
• 28:20
  So what happens now with you two?
• 28:23
  What's the rest of the year?
• 28:24
  We're pretty much done.
• 28:25
  I mean, we got today and in a couple of days our Christmas party and then I'm checking out.
• 28:30
  Yeah.
• 28:31
  Put the phone down.
• 28:32
  Is it weird being able to, sorry to jump in, but you don't drink?
• 28:35
  No.
• 28:35
  Am I correct?
• 28:36
  So is it funny seeing everyone at the gala just completely spastic and you're just sobering?
• 28:43
  It's not too bad.
• 28:44
  I can still go out and everyone's like, oh, how many drinks you had?
• 28:47
  If in the right environment, I can still have a really good time.
• 28:51
  No one needs to drink to have a good time, but I'm just meaning like is it a funny scene everyone?
• 28:56
  And you remember everything.
• 28:58
  Exactly.
• 28:58
  Everyone's like grabbing you to dance.
• 29:00
  I'm like, I don't know.
• 29:01
  I don't want to look like that right now.
• 29:04
  I can't bring myself to doing that completely sober.
• 29:07
  I have said to him a couple of times like,
• 29:10
  I don't know how he puts up with me.
• 29:11
  When he comes out till 3am and I've been drinking, it's like I couldn't put up with myself if I was sober.
• 29:17
  And I'm like, I don't know how he doesn't just go, no, you're annoying me.
• 29:20
  He might just tie you up and put you in the corner.
• 29:22
  You don't know.
• 29:23
  Yeah, maybe I just don't know, but I just don't know how you do it.
• 29:26
  Yeah, I can still like, when we went out in NZ and that, I can still have a good time.
• 29:31
  Yeah, in NZ, we get home and we go out for brekkie.
• 29:36
  We got home maybe 3.30.
• 29:38
  We go out for brekkie and Brock's like, oh, yeah, I'm dusty.
• 29:40
  I'm like... Wow, that wasn't the exact words, but...
• 29:43
  He was like, oh, I'm so tired.
• 29:46
  I'm there and I'm looking at him and I'm like, you didn't just say that, did you?
• 29:49
  I'm busted.
• 29:52
  Mate, I need my sleep.
• 29:53
  I struggle.
• 29:54
  Yeah.
• 30:01
  So is there anything through the year that no one knows about that was pretty funny that happened with you guys?
• 30:08
  The Darwin After.
• 30:09
  The Darwin After.
• 30:10
  Yeah, no, we won't talk about that.
• 30:12
  Oh, what happened there?
• 30:13
  What's going on?
• 30:13
  It's just, Will can dance pretty much.
• 30:16
  He can pull out some good moves.
• 30:17
  I can.
• 30:18
  He can't dance, so when he does, it's funny.
• 30:21
  Yeah, yeah.
• 30:21
  That was a certain move.
• 30:23
  I don't think so.
• 30:24
  I think it was actually, it was nothing too crazy.
• 30:27
  Did you guys come to blow, not blow, punch up, but was there any arguments this year about anything?
• 30:32
  Only probably the Tazzy one was a bit tense.
• 30:34
  Yeah.
• 30:35
  When I put a block on Brock.
• 30:38
  Through a joint bow at Brock.
• 30:40
  Yeah, that's right.
• 30:42
  Yeah, but I don't think so.
• 30:43
  Anything apart from that?
• 30:44
  No.
• 30:45
  I feel like our engineers were, well, not even Brock's engineer, but like our engineers, because back there, like, you know, you're obviously any team running at that level.
• 30:53
  You have some team orders, and then you always have to sort of put your case forward from the engineer as to why, you know, oh, I should have let him pass or what.
• 31:02
  So I feel like we don't have the arguments.
• 31:04
  You know what I mean?
• 31:05
  We're just listening.
• 31:06
  do seem to race each other pretty well.
• 31:09
  Like, it's not sort of like one of you catches the other and then the team's like, oh, right, shut it down and you guys just drive behind each other.
• 31:16
  You still have a crack at each other.
• 31:17
  We had a little bit of that at the start of the year.
• 31:19
  Like, we were in a pretty good position at the start of the year.
• 31:21
  I think we won the first five or so races.
• 31:23
  And, like, at AGP there was, like, the big, like, oh, my God, are your tyres going to blow up sort of thing.
• 31:29
  So, like, there was a few races at the start of the year where it's like, don't put too much pressure on it.
• 31:33
  But, like, when we got to Taupo, like...
• 31:35
  They're just like, yeah, boys, like, you know the rules.
• 31:37
  Like, if we touch, we get in a lot of trouble.
• 31:39
  They're like, just go for it.
• 31:41
  Will run into me a few times.
• 31:42
  No, I'm joking.
• 31:43
  You back-tested me.
• 31:45
  But to let it off.
• 31:47
  And it was the same Adelaide.
• 31:48
  Like, we didn't have door-to-door racing.
• 31:51
  So who is it that pulls you through?
• 31:52
  Is it the goat or?
• 31:54
  Nah.
• 31:55
  Dado is like the one that sits down to like, look, you boys know the rules, like don't run into each other, but race hard sort of thing.
• 32:03
  So it's good when we're in a position where we're out front like Taupo and we had a gap and they're just like, you guys can sort it out, don't do anything silly.
• 32:10
  But the thing is you learn in that situation how many times you run into someone to pass them.
• 32:15
  Yeah, because you can't.
• 32:17
  I could have passed this guy if it wasn't my teammate 10 laps ago.
• 32:19
  You just rolled up and doored him.
• 32:20
  If that was someone else at Taupo, it would have been done in one lap and it would have just been like, oh.
• 32:25
  Yeah.
• 32:25
  We're like, oh, my God.
• 32:27
  That back corner, like the hairpin at Taupo, you'd just get underneath him a bit, a few taps and burn the tyres off and you'd be fine.
• 32:33
  And I'm like, this is really hard.
• 32:34
  I can't even hit him.
• 32:35
  What am I going to do here?
• 32:36
  Just hope he makes a mistake.
• 32:38
  Yeah, that's right.
• 32:40
  But, yeah, it was a good year.
• 32:42
  I don't think there was anything.
• 32:44
  Get along well.
• 32:44
  It's all been pretty good, really.
• 32:47
  Was there anything that surprised either of you through the year with someone's performance or, you know, something that went on?
• 32:54
  In our team or in general?
• 32:55
  Oh, just in general.
• 32:56
  Your Townsville Equality shootout?
• 32:57
  Oh, that was cracking.
• 32:58
  Mate, you nearly went to the top.
• 32:59
  Oh, I thought I was on for a second there.
• 33:01
  It's the one time all year the car hooked up.
• 33:06
  I'm trying to think if anyone did anything good throughout the year that was surprising.
• 33:12
  Like any cracking moves you pulled on someone or someone got over you and you're like, oh.
• 33:17
  You always have good ones.
• 33:18
  You know, like I feel like there's always some, you pull some good moves, but I don't think there's...
• 33:24
  Nothing that's jumped out.
• 33:25
  I don't think so.
• 33:26
  I just hate it when someone gets you with a really good move and you're like, oh...
• 33:30
  that's it.
• 33:31
  I'm pretty much their bitch now until they get the telephoto.
• 33:34
  I've got to get them back.
• 33:35
  They cross you over or something.
• 33:37
  You're like, I should have known they were going to do that.
• 33:39
  How did they get me?
• 33:40
  But I reckon there's definitely some guys you have to be a little bit more.
• 33:44
  You know coming up on you, JC's not making it easy every time.
• 33:47
  I pretty much put the blinker on on Sunday, mate.
• 33:49
  Calm down.
• 33:50
  I was like, go by, buddy.
• 33:52
  Win the championship.
• 33:53
  Do a burnout.
• 33:54
  Yeah.
• 33:56
  You were nice.
• 33:56
  But then there's like other people, like obviously what Chas did on Sunday, like just going to make it hard and it's going to be interesting and the racing is going to be, you know, a difficult pass.
• 34:07
  But, yeah, nothing that stands out so much.
• 34:10
  What about you?
• 34:11
  Cool stuff.
• 34:15
  I don't know.
• 34:16
  I probably thought the...
• 34:19
  Waters was going to be stronger as a team through this year.
• 34:22
  I thought they would have featured a bit heavier.
• 34:24
  I thought of something.
• 34:25
  What, go?
• 34:25
  Remember him and Payne at Grand Prix when Waters had gone and sprayed him in the door?
• 34:29
  That was good.
• 34:30
  That was pretty funny.
• 34:31
  That was a decent shun as well.
• 34:32
  And then Ned did the promo the next day.
• 34:35
  Oh, yeah, with the whiskey.
• 34:37
  Yeah.
• 34:37
  And now Cam has his own whiskey.
• 34:38
  Yeah.
• 34:39
  I thought that was funny.
• 34:39
  I wonder if they make it.
• 34:41
  They don't.
• 34:41
  I asked him and I didn't even calculate it through my head.
• 34:44
  Like they had to go at him.
• 34:45
  But that was pretty funny.
• 34:48
  There wasn't any other scraps, was there?
• 34:50
  Not really.
• 34:50
  What was it like working with Mr. Pye?
• 34:53
  Yeah, no.
• 34:53
  Very outspoken.
• 34:55
  Yeah, obviously he's doing his podcast, you know.
• 34:57
  Why are you looking at me?
• 34:59
  Why are you looking at me?
• 35:00
  What are you guys laughing for?
• 35:02
  They can see your eyes, mate.
• 35:05
  No, you can't.
• 35:05
  I'm not sure, to be honest.
• 35:07
  He was good to work with.
• 35:08
  He did a fantastic job.
• 35:09
  I did a few years with him.
• 35:10
  Yeah, yeah, did a fantastic job all season round, apart from Thursday at Bathurst, obviously.
• 35:15
  Oh, yeah, actually.
• 35:17
  No, I'm only joking.
• 35:18
  But no, the rest of the time really fast.
• 35:21
  Obviously, the podcast started doing it.
• 35:22
  He's gained some followers off that, though.
• 35:24
  That has been massive.
• 35:25
  Like, you know, just the amount of people throughout.
• 35:30
  the rounds that came up.
• 35:31
  And I guess he sort of dragged the, I would say the added in fans and all of those fans that, you know, sort of have a bit of a, not a problem with supercars, but you know, they, they want changes.
• 35:42
  And I guess that's, that's what the podcast about.
• 35:44
  He's very outspoken.
• 35:45
  I feel like people either love the podcast or,
• 35:48
  Don't like the podcast is what I've liked.
• 35:50
  I think it's cool, like, Shane.
• 35:52
  Like, you've seen Shane and a lot of people wouldn't have seen him in that way.
• 35:56
  Like, we've all seen Shane in that open environment where he can say what he wants and that.
• 36:00
  But it's like, you enjoy watching the podcast and I'm sure everyone's loving it where, like, everyone can just speak freely because they've got nothing holding their back, which is good.
• 36:07
  I think Scott's done what the sport kind of needed, though, in a way, and hopefully more people do it, is that, you know, we have these three-week breaks and there's nothing...
• 36:15
  you know, to listen to, to watch or anything like that for it.
• 36:19
  So, you know, they can log on and listen to the debrief when they want to think about motorsport and watch motorsport.
• 36:25
  And, yeah, I think that more drivers should probably do a podcast that people can get that fix when we're having our weekends off.
• 36:33
  Well, we're doing one now.
• 36:34
  True.
• 36:35
  And with the GOAT, again, by the time around, he let you qualify this year?
• 36:39
  Yeah, he did let me qualify this year.
• 36:41
  Before you're rolling, you're like, mate, I'm driving this thing all year.
• 36:45
  Hey, this is my car now.
• 36:46
  I don't care how many championships you've won.
• 36:48
  I wanted to ask it, but I haven't had the balls.
• 36:50
  How did that come about that year?
• 36:52
  So I went out in the wet and I was terrible at Bathurst.
• 36:56
  I nearly won.
• 36:57
  Well, I shouldn't say nearly won.
• 36:58
  I was like battling with Shane and Cam at Tail and Ben in the wet the weekend before and then go to Bathurst and I was terrible.
• 37:03
  And then he goes out and literally the first lap he goes P2.
• 37:07
  Yeah, it was probably dry.
• 37:08
  And I'm like, I'm like, and then I think the team went to put me back out or something like that.
• 37:13
  And anyway, it got to quali and they're like, everyone's like, oh, so like, did we put Jamie in?
• 37:19
  And I'm like, guys, I honestly don't care.
• 37:21
  But then we qualified 14th anyway.
• 37:22
  I was about to say that.
• 37:23
  I'm like, I probably should have just done it.
• 37:24
  You know, like.
• 37:25
  Who made the call?
• 37:26
  Who told you, yeah, he's... No, I... Like, everyone brought it up.
• 37:31
  Like, the team sort of brought it up.
• 37:32
  Like, oh, what do you think about?
• 37:33
  And I'm like, do it.
• 37:35
  Like, literally, I didn't care.
• 37:37
  Like, I just wanted to win the race.
• 37:38
  You know, you go in there to win the race.
• 37:40
  Like, there was zero ego.
• 37:42
  Very mature of you, Brock.
• 37:44
  But I remember sitting in the garage, in the truck, and I'd watch it on my phone.
• 37:48
  I didn't want to walk out.
• 37:48
  When you went 14th, you were just like...
• 37:50
  But then like, you obviously see the TV and they're like, oh my God, Jamie, Jamie, Winkup's in his suit.
• 37:57
  And then my phone just flooded and everyone's like, everyone had their opinion on it.
• 38:00
  But literally I was there to win.
• 38:02
  Yeah.
• 38:02
  I was there trying to do the best I could.
• 38:03
  And I thought he'd do that.
• 38:05
  But...
• 38:06
  I'd be happy to let him qualify this year.
• 38:08
  I think he'd still put it in the tent.
• 38:10
  It does go pretty well.
• 38:10
  He's so fast.
• 38:11
  You go to a test day and you literally have to be on your game.
• 38:14
  Otherwise, he's... You're talking smack.
• 38:16
  He's like, shut up or I'm going to get in and go fast.
• 38:19
  Yeah.
• 38:20
  He's like, you did a shit job.
• 38:21
  No, I'm here.
• 38:22
  No, but literally at the test day, we were doing back-to-back runs and that.
• 38:26
  And, man, I was wheeling this thing.
• 38:28
  And I'd get in by a few hundreds.
• 38:30
  And I'm like...
• 38:31
  And Marty's come on the radio and he's like, yeah, you've still got your job just.
• 38:36
  Like, you know, we were winding each other up.
• 38:38
  It was pretty funny.
• 38:39
  Yeah.
• 38:39
  But yeah, he still goes good.
• 38:41
  He could still be doing it.
• 38:42
  But is he like Tim?
• 38:43
  Whenever Tim drives my car, it's like fresh tyres.
• 38:46
  Yeah.
• 38:47
  Tim won't drive.
• 38:47
  No.
• 38:48
  That's so funny.
• 38:49
  Like, at ride days and stuff, he gets in, he gets in, it's like... Tyes on.
• 38:52
  Yeah.
• 38:53
  You're all set in the bills.
• 38:54
  Yeah.
• 38:55
  Then he goes out.
• 38:56
  And once it gets a bit squirrely, the tyres are going, he's out, he's done.
• 38:59
  It's funny, like, at Thursday practice at Bathurst, we're like, yeah, let's focus on a race car and that.
• 39:04
  And Jamie goes out and, like, laser heated it.
• 39:06
  He goes P1 in the session and Will comes in and he's like...
• 39:10
  I think you'll like to him.
• 39:11
  I'm all like, were you like pushing then or was that like race runs?
• 39:14
  And he's like, mate, that was my quality sim for the weekend.
• 39:16
  Like I was flat out.
• 39:17
  Yeah, well, we had this plan or I thought we had this plan in the trailer that these co-drivers are going to do a race run and we'd know.
• 39:23
  And then, yeah, he's just gone like a second and a half quicker than Scott.
• 39:26
  And I'm like...
• 39:27
  what the hell?
• 39:27
  And then I've gone over it.
• 39:28
  Is that why Scott crashed?
• 39:29
  You sort of pushed too hard.
• 39:30
  I actually said to Andrew, get on the radio and tell him to get going.
• 39:33
  And then he crashed.
• 39:33
  So it was your fault.
• 39:34
  I'm like, oh, I feel bad.
• 39:37
  Scott will even say the truth.
• 39:38
  He's like, yeah, he's got on.
• 39:39
  He's like, yeah, Jamie's a second quicker.
• 39:40
  And then two minutes later, bro, Scott.
• 39:43
  So Scott was actually probably doing really good times, to be honest.
• 39:47
  But Jamie just, he literally looks at that session.
• 39:50
  Yep, I'm laying down a heater.
• 39:51
  This is my quality.
• 39:52
  And he was fast.
• 39:54
  But, yeah.
• 39:54
  He's still got it.
• 39:56
  Oh, he still has.
• 39:58
  He'd be there for as long as he wants, I think, nearly.
• 40:00
  So moving along a little, you've worked closely with Brodie and all those years at Erebus and whatever.
• 40:09
  How do you reckon it's going to go with him at DJR, is it?
• 40:12
  Because they're taking a lot of the people out of there, haven't they?
• 40:15
  Yeah.
• 40:16
  I reckon, obviously, well, I think if they bring those guys in, they've got to give them free range and do what they want, which I'm sure they're going to.
• 40:22
  So have they got rid of all their engineers?
• 40:24
  At Erebus?
• 40:25
  No, at both.
• 40:26
  At DJR?
• 40:26
  Yeah.
• 40:27
  I think so, yeah.
• 40:28
  I think both.
• 40:29
  Like, DJR.
• 40:30
  I think Perry's been announced that he's going to supercars.
• 40:32
  Is that right?
• 40:33
  Yeah.
• 40:33
  What about, is it Richard at... Richard.
• 40:35
  Where's he going?
• 40:36
  I don't know.
• 40:36
  Where is he going?
• 40:37
  Don't we?
• 40:38
  Oh, right.
• 40:38
  Is it so...
• 40:40
  You got something to break?
• 40:41
  Well, I know.
• 40:42
  Oh, right.
• 40:42
  Do you?
• 40:43
  No, we don't.
• 40:44
  I've had whispers, but anyway.
• 40:46
  Where was the whisper I can confirm or deny?
• 40:49
  From you.
• 40:50
  I didn't tell anyone.
• 40:52
  But, yeah, what do you reckon it's going to be like?
• 40:53
  Because it's going to be quite a different environment for him.
• 40:56
  It's going to change a lot, isn't it?
• 40:58
  I think, you know, it's like Chas went to Walkinshaw and everyone said, oh, you know, go on there.
• 41:02
  You know, everyone wanted him at the time to go to Penske or Triple Eight and he's performed at a team.
• 41:07
  He's a good driver.
• 41:08
  I think that he'll, you know, I think Brody's got the engineers he needs.
• 41:12
  That's why he's taken them and I think he's, you know, on a bit of a high right now still.
• 41:16
  He's won Bathurst.
• 41:17
  I think...
• 41:19
  I think he's still a contender.
• 41:19
  But he was quick at the end of the year, wasn't he?
• 41:21
  Yeah, he was quick.
• 41:23
  And, yeah, it was...
• 41:25
  I think he's a contender for the top four at the end of next year.
• 41:28
  Oh, 100%.
• 41:29
  Yeah.
• 41:29
  Yeah, no, like, speed's never a question with him, and I think he's...
• 41:34
  He seems like he's quite the engineer also.
• 41:36
  Yeah.
• 41:37
  But, yeah, it'd just be an interesting dynamic.
• 41:39
  I think it's probably better that it's not the Penske way anymore.
• 41:43
  I think that's probably that loosened up a little.
• 41:45
  I hope they make him tuck his shirt in and do all that.
• 41:48
  No, no.
• 41:50
  What's it called?
• 41:50
  The barrel hat or bowl hat or whatever the hair is.
• 41:52
  Bucket hat.
• 41:53
  Has to have a tidy haircut.
• 41:55
  Can't shave his head every three rounds or something.
• 41:58
  Yeah.
• 41:59
  But no, I think that should be an interesting dynamic.
• 42:01
  Cool story next year.
• 42:02
  Like, you know, they haven't had the best couple of years from where they've been.
• 42:05
  It'll be like, can they bring it back to the front?
• 42:07
  Hmm.
• 42:09
  Yeah.
• 42:09
  Yeah.
• 42:10
  Anyone else do you think is going to be – like, why can't WIU and Chas get it together?
• 42:16
  Like, you guys are – I don't know.
• 42:17
  I think they have.
• 42:18
  No, but like I mean for a championship because how many years has he been in a long time?
• 42:24
  I feel like they made a few silly errors towards the back end of the year.
• 42:27
  Yeah.
• 42:28
  From a team point of view, maybe.
• 42:32
  I think it's more like the round like, you know, obviously he struggled at Darwin, but then like they smoked us for a few rounds like Townsville and Sydney.
• 42:39
  They were like stupid rocks and the next weekend we rolled at Darwin and it's not weird.
• 42:43
  Sydney was ridiculous.
• 42:44
  He could do whatever strategy he wanted.
• 42:47
  They definitely found some good speed though this year.
• 42:49
  Like when they were shining, man, they were unbeatable.
• 42:52
  But there's just not the consistency.
• 42:53
  Like you guys, no matter where we go...
• 42:57
  you guys are quick like it doesn't matter where you go you guys are going to be there and there's no bogey tracks for you um and it seems like every other team sort of has a drama at one circuit or it's not good for them for whatever reason or they don't have the consistency um why do you you guys are so strong all year and you know whether they change drivers like you change take shane out and you roll in or jamie goes and you come in at
• 43:22
  It doesn't change.
• 43:23
  No matter what it is, it's 888-12 speed-wise.
• 43:27
  Do you put it down to the group back at Banjo or whatever it's called?
• 43:31
  Yeah, they're playing the Banjo.
• 43:35
  The crew's obviously amazing.
• 43:36
  You're looking at some of the guys.
• 43:38
  For myself coming in, looking at some of the key people that I've had for years, JJ, Dado, Gooey, all those guys that run their sections.
• 43:46
  If it's a workshop or the engineering, whatnot, they do...
• 43:50
  They do such an amazing job and they have great personnel from the engineers and everything there.
• 43:54
  But just procedures, I guess, and the way they set up the cars leading into the weekend, I guess, is a big part of why there's not bogey tracks.
• 44:03
  They have a philosophy behind how they set up the car each weekend.
• 44:07
  And I think we roll out of the trailer extremely competitive each one.
• 44:11
  Yeah, I think that's a big part of it.
• 44:13
  And yes, you're not chasing your tail.
• 44:15
  I feel like for so many years I was, you know, last year with Erebus, I didn't feel like we were chasing a tail.
• 44:20
  We'd make small changes and we'd be in the window each round.
• 44:23
  But I remember with Erebus, we were changing uprights back when you could.
• 44:26
  You were throwing a whole different setup in it over Saturday night for Sunday and you just never knew where you were at.
• 44:32
  You didn't know what change actually happened.
• 44:34
  made an improvement or because you threw 12 at it overnight to try and get somewhere where now I remember Andrew being like, oh, the cars are different and it's such a minimal change.
• 44:43
  It's a rear spring or something like that.
• 44:45
  So yeah.
• 44:46
  What was that spring?
• 44:47
  Yeah, I'm worried he's going to slip something up here.
• 44:49
  Yeah, yeah.
• 44:49
  I'm ready to jump in.
• 44:51
  I'll be in trouble.
• 44:51
  75 rear spring.
• 44:53
  He had a 70.
• 44:55
  Yeah, but that's right.
• 44:56
  So, yeah, I think they just roll the cars out so strong.
• 44:59
  The philosophy before you go there is so good that you don't have those bogey rounds.
• 45:03
  But my one for next year, Waters.
• 45:05
  I reckon Waters was...
• 45:07
  Since Taupo, he was solid.
• 45:09
  Like, I think he actually...
• 45:11
  He didn't beat me, but either... Had a good back end of the year.
• 45:14
  His back end of the year was nearly on par with mine.
• 45:17
  Like, it wasn't far off.
• 45:18
  So he was pretty strong from there on.
• 45:21
  So it's going to be interesting to see how everyone rolls out over Christmas.
• 45:26
  Because, like, what confused us most, we go to Bathurst first round, like, second quicker than everyone.
• 45:30
  Yeah.
• 45:30
  Yeah.
• 45:31
  Then you go to Bathurst with probably the same set-up, tyres and everything, and then you qualify fifth or sixth and you can't, you know, Brodie's up the road and that.
• 45:38
  So I think everyone just got on top of their cars a lot this year and got faster throughout the year and the competitiveness.
• 45:46
  I don't, you know, I might be talking it up, but I don't think the category has seen this amount of competitiveness.
• 45:51
  Like there's always different people up the front every weekend.
• 45:53
  Yeah, it has been pretty good.
• 45:55
  Mitch is into us.
• 45:56
  He wants us to get into, there's a mailbag there or something, read some exciting, a lot of questions.
• 46:04
  But yeah, I think, yeah, Cam was super strong.
• 46:08
  I thought he was going to be one to push you guys this year.
• 46:10
  He does an incredible job in qualifying.
• 46:12
  Yeah, fuck it.
• 46:14
  He can.
• 46:14
  They can lay a lap down.
• 46:16
  Yeah.
• 46:16
  He throws the heater down.
• 46:17
  I got a pretty good one.
• 46:18
  So who was the last man standing on Sunday night?
• 46:22
  Oh.
• 46:23
  Definitely you.
• 46:25
  I wasn't the last man out of our team, but I set a 3 a.m. curfew on myself because I knew I had the sunrise.
• 46:30
  So I left at 3 a.m. Was that like Queensland time?
• 46:36
  Yeah, yeah.
• 46:36
  So like 3 a.m. or whatever.
• 46:39
  Yeah, but yeah, got home.
• 46:41
  I was fine.
• 46:43
  I didn't even go out.
• 46:44
  Did you?
• 46:44
  No.
• 46:45
  I had to get my Zara flu in, so I got her, but damn, the next night.
• 46:49
  Yeah, you were probably last on the Monday night.
• 46:52
  Definitely the sweatiest.
• 46:55
  So this is from James for Will.
• 46:56
  What was it like coming home to Toowoomba to see so many fans?
• 47:00
  Yeah, that was pretty cool.
• 47:01
  I have, obviously I still work when I'm home and I have so many people come into the car yard and like, oh, you did a good job on the weekend, like throughout the year.
• 47:08
  And then when I won and saw a few people comment on Facebook, oh, you know, cool to see a Toowoomba person win, I was like, oh, we've got to do something for the fans.
• 47:15
  So I thought I'll...
• 47:17
  put on a bit of a day that fans can come out to the car and have a look at the supercar.
• 47:21
  I was disappointed you didn't get Todd there to spin those snags.
• 47:24
  Yeah, yeah.
• 47:26
  I even reminded him.
• 47:27
  I sent you a message.
• 47:28
  You did send me a message.
• 47:30
  No, Todd was booked out that day, I think, but couldn't get him.
• 47:34
  Has he been announced that he's going to DJs with?
• 47:38
  Surely he is.
• 47:39
  Well, you've just announced it.
• 47:41
  No, I said, has he?
• 47:41
  Well, yeah, but then you dropped the name.
• 47:44
  I don't know.
• 47:46
  I thought he was.
• 47:46
  There's a Speed Cafe article now.
• 47:48
  I'm sure we're all clutching it.
• 47:49
  Oh, is it?
• 47:50
  I'm sure.
• 47:51
  No, no, I don't think it has been announced.
• 47:53
  You would think he'd follow him there.
• 47:54
  You would think.
• 47:54
  All right.
• 47:56
  From Ebs, which rookie will be the one to watch in 2025?
• 47:59
  Kai Allen and Cooper Murray.
• 48:02
  Yeah.
• 48:03
  Which one?
• 48:04
  Do you want to put bets on who you think is going to finish higher?
• 48:07
  Is that...
• 48:08
  I don't know.
• 48:09
  Just who do we think is going to be the one to watch?
• 48:11
  I'm going to go...
• 48:11
  I'm going to get in...
• 48:12
  I don't know.
• 48:13
  I was pretty impressed with not Saturday on Coop, but Sunday.
• 48:16
  Coop is qualifying 12th or 13th.
• 48:20
  I thought that was...
• 48:21
  I'm going to go Coop.
• 48:22
  I think he's...
• 48:23
  But consistency, you've got to watch that.
• 48:26
  But I think he's got raw pace.
• 48:28
  He's got a bit of crazy eyes going on, doesn't he?
• 48:30
  Yeah.
• 48:30
  It was quite funny.
• 48:31
  In Saturday's race, I'm just, they're like, oh, don't worry, Cooper's six laps down, like, you know, and you're behind him.
• 48:37
  And then he just fences Frosty in front of me.
• 48:39
  And I'm like, all righty then.
• 48:41
  Oh, God.
• 48:43
  I've got the championship here.
• 48:44
  I'm like, get him, Cooper.
• 48:45
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 48:47
  Are you on the radio team?
• 48:48
  Yeah.
• 48:49
  Meow.
• 48:49
  Yeah.
• 48:50
  It was actually, the meow came from is that, you know how people like sometimes don't use pit?
• 48:56
  I said to my engineer as a joke on Sunday, I'm like, can you just meow at me to pit as a joke?
• 49:01
  And he's like, I'm not meowing.
• 49:02
  Like it was a total piss take.
• 49:04
  He wouldn't do it.
• 49:05
  It wasn't.
• 49:05
  But yeah, I'm going to go Cooper.
• 49:09
  You've probably raced both of them quite a bit.
• 49:11
  Yeah, I have.
• 49:14
  I really rate Kai.
• 49:15
  I think he's a guy that's going to be around for a long time, and I think he can put a championship together.
• 49:21
  I think Cooper's going to have a couple of standout races.
• 49:24
  It wouldn't surprise me if he polled it.
• 49:27
  He's capable.
• 49:28
  He's got the raw speed and that to poll it.
• 49:33
  Yeah, it depends how, I suppose, they fit into their environment.
• 49:36
  Like how Kai's going to go at Grove.
• 49:39
  They've got two young guys.
• 49:39
  I think Kai's going to be good.
• 49:41
  You'd say Kai would be more looked after than at Erebus with.
• 49:46
  Well, it's just how everyone fits into their environment.
• 49:50
  No, but, like, it's just how people, you know, are going to fit in.
• 49:53
  Like...
• 49:55
  Yeah, I think if they look after him, right, I think they'll go well.
• 50:00
  Kyle will be more consistent.
• 50:01
  Cooper will have the standouts.
• 50:02
  Yeah, I think so.
• 50:03
  Cooper will get on the podium or something.
• 50:05
  And Kyle will probably be further up in the championship, I think.
• 50:10
  Yeah, I said to Tim Edwards years ago that he should get Kaya because I remember him from karting and did really well.
• 50:16
  He's always been.
• 50:17
  Yeah, and he comes from a great family and, yeah, I think he presents really well.
• 50:24
  So, yeah, I think, like, Bob said, I reckon he's going to be a guy that's going to hang around for quite a while.
• 50:28
  Yeah.
• 50:28
  We got any more in here?
• 50:29
  Yeah, do you want to keep going?
• 50:30
  Yeah, let's ask a couple more.
• 50:32
  What have we got here?
• 50:35
  From Mungo Kitty.
• 50:38
  Oh.
• 50:39
  Meow.
• 50:40
  Thank you.
• 50:41
  Will, what would you offer me for my 2018 Subaru Forester?
• 50:47
  Oh, what's it worth?
• 50:48
  I've got to know the Ks.
• 50:49
  I'd just say $154,000.
• 50:50
  Oh, $154,000.
• 50:51
  It's getting high, though, 2018.
• 50:54
  No, it wouldn't be that many for 2018.
• 50:55
  I don't know.
• 50:56
  It could be from the bush.
• 50:57
  Is it an ex-hire car?
• 50:59
  What is it?
• 51:00
  I just don't have enough information, guys.
• 51:01
  Never raced or rallied.
• 51:02
  Yeah, yeah.
• 51:03
  But thank you.
• 51:04
  But I'll give you 10 because I know I'm safe.
• 51:06
  All right, done.
• 51:07
  Drop in to call cars galore and find out.
• 51:12
  Yeah, from Jacob.
• 51:13
  Are there any advantages or disadvantages with starting a year with a new chassis?
• 51:20
  No, everyone's so good at building it.
• 51:21
  You guys getting any new ones this year?
• 51:23
  Oh, you are, aren't you?
• 51:24
  Or one of you had one?
• 51:25
  No, one of us are.
• 51:26
  Oh, the champ.
• 51:28
  Do you just call it now?
• 51:29
  You're like, mate.
• 51:30
  Guess what number chassis it is.
• 51:31
  Look at the number on the side.
• 51:33
  Hey, sorry to jump around a bit here.
• 51:35
  We'll get back to the chassis number because I'm a bit excited, but I just thought something was funny.
• 51:39
  You know what it is.
• 51:40
  I don't know what it is, but something is funny.
• 51:42
  Now you don't have to run 87.
• 51:44
  Can you admit that it's a shit number?
• 51:46
  Oh.
• 51:49
  This is all the start of this year because Jamie sends me a message and Jamie goes like, hey, mate, this is your number for the year.
• 51:55
  And I'm like, oh, yeah, righto, like 87, whatever.
• 51:59
  Like I didn't think it was bad, didn't think it was good.
• 52:01
  You know, I'm like 87, that's fine.
• 52:03
  You know, they've just obviously won worse than Brock.
• 52:05
  They're happy just to put me as second driver straight away.
• 52:07
  No, I'm joking.
• 52:08
  Yeah.
• 52:09
  But then like everyone's just like sending me messages, all these drivers like Waters, you, Brody.
• 52:14
  Everyone's like, God, that's a shit number.
• 52:16
  What do you mean?
• 52:17
  What's wrong with the number?
• 52:18
  They paid me out for rounds about my number.
• 52:20
  So I didn't think 87 was too bad.
• 52:22
  Like I'm pretty keen to run it.
• 52:24
  Yeah, I actually, I like it now.
• 52:26
  Yeah, you don't have to go to 87.
• 52:29
  Yeah.
• 52:29
  So I actually like it now, 87, but yeah, we might be able to get away from it for a year.
• 52:35
  Back to whatever you were saying about your chassis number.
• 52:37
  Oh, my chassis number.
• 52:39
  We both wanted it this year.
• 52:41
  Triple 8.
• 52:42
  Take a guess.
• 52:42
  No, no, no, take a guess.
• 52:44
  No, one better than Triple 8.
• 52:46
  I didn't even know what number you guys would be up to.
• 52:47
  It's always the immature number.
• 52:48
  We're like Chassis 69.
• 52:50
  Oh, I did that too.
• 52:53
  So we're having a fight this year.
• 52:54
  It's like whoever beat each other in the championship, and I'm like, oh, so I've got to choose a name for it.
• 52:58
  Yeah.
• 52:59
  Anyway.
• 53:00
  It would have to be something quite flirtatious, wouldn't it?
• 53:03
  Do you have any suggestions, James?
• 53:05
  I've got plenty.
• 53:06
  We'll get back to that off air.
• 53:07
  Yeah.
• 53:09
  And so you're getting a new one?
• 53:11
  Did you have a new one this year?
• 53:12
  We both had new ones this year.
• 53:13
  Oh, bingo.
• 53:14
  I think I get a new one next year.
• 53:16
  I don't.
• 53:17
  I think it's been announced, but we're not getting it for the start of the year.
• 53:20
  So we're working on our Super 2 cars at the moment.
• 53:23
  Oh, because one got destroyed, didn't it?
• 53:25
  Yeah, so I think we're doing another car now.
• 53:28
  But we're pretty much refurbing those, so then our new chassis will roll in.
• 53:32
  Will's new chassis will roll in a bit later in the year.
• 53:35
  What about that guy Shunt at turn four that went around the barrier and tried to make it out onto Whitefield Street?
• 53:40
  He would have bowled.
• 53:41
  Mate, he would have got a strike.
• 53:43
  He would have bowled some people.
• 53:44
  When the fence was laying over, I was like, damn, this guy's gone up into the top of it to try and knock it over.
• 53:49
  But people are like, oh, why did he do that?
• 53:51
  Why didn't he just?
• 53:52
  You're not thinking when you're the driver, oh, yeah, I'm just going to crash into the barriers here.
• 53:55
  Oh, I'm going to make it through the other side.
• 53:57
  You're not thinking, oh, if I make it through, this is going to be bad.
• 53:59
  We'll just deal with whatever's on the other side.
• 54:01
  Yeah, that's right.
• 54:02
  Imagine the guy in a portal around the corner.
• 54:06
  Or the trams coming.
• 54:08
  It was pretty funny.
• 54:11
  But, yeah, you got another one for us, bro?
• 54:14
  I got one for you.
• 54:16
  From Riley, do any of you have plans to do any racing outside of supercars next year?
• 54:21
  Oh, this is looking straight down the barrel at you.
• 54:24
  12 hour.
• 54:25
  I'm looking at doing 12 hour.
• 54:26
  Oh, what are you doing?
• 54:27
  Who are you doing it with?
• 54:27
  That Audi again?
• 54:28
  Oh, big dog.
• 54:29
  There's a new one.
• 54:31
  There's new.
• 54:31
  What, a new Audi?
• 54:33
  Yeah, new Audi.
• 54:34
  How did you get that so quickly?
• 54:37
  Yeah, so looking at doing 12 hour.
• 54:39
  You do it too, don't you?
• 54:40
  12 hour?
• 54:40
  Yep.
• 54:40
  Yeah, I'll be doing it.
• 54:41
  With AAA door?
• 54:42
  No, because they're not doing it anymore, those, the Malaysian guys.
• 54:46
  Yeah.
• 54:46
  With you guys, aren't they?
• 54:47
  Yeah, the Prince's are no longer.
• 54:50
  But you did yours with him, didn't you?
• 54:51
  No, this year we run a pro car.
• 54:53
  Okay.
• 54:53
  We run a pro car, but I've done it for three years with AAA now.
• 54:56
  Yeah.
• 54:56
  AAA generally try to do it.
• 54:57
  It's just super expensive.
• 54:59
  Yeah, it's just trying to make it work out.
• 55:00
  I think I remember watching your poll laugh.
• 55:02
  I was like... Yeah.
• 55:04
  He's bloody fast around Bathurst.
• 55:05
  It's ridiculous in the GT car.
• 55:07
  Yeah.
• 55:08
  Anyway, aside from that.
• 55:11
  Hopefully two NASCAR races I'd like to do.
• 55:13
  So that's the plan.
• 55:15
  What ones are they?
• 55:16
  Yeah.
• 55:16
  It'd be pretty easy to work out.
• 55:18
  Tell the day.
• 55:18
  All the journos at home, just look up cross-reference supercars and you'll work them out.
• 55:23
  So hopefully...
• 55:24
  I did remember you asked me about a date.
• 55:26
  Yeah, yeah, that's right, I did.
• 55:28
  So we'll say one, but hopefully two if the car's available, and then see what happens with GT after 12 hours.
• 55:34
  Did you enjoy it this year?
• 55:35
  GT?
• 55:36
  Yeah.
• 55:36
  Yeah, I thought it was a lot of fun.
• 55:37
  It's just a lot of travel.
• 55:38
  You know what I mean?
• 55:39
  Like they're doing the Thursday practice days.
• 55:41
  Lucky you have your own plane.
• 55:42
  Yeah, yeah.
• 55:43
  But they're doing Thursday practice day, so you have to get there Wednesday and you're leaving Sunday or Monday.
• 55:48
  It's another long week.
• 55:50
  That doesn't leave a lot of time in the year for Casca Lord, does it?
• 55:53
  No, no, Dad's not happy.
• 55:54
  He's not happy.
• 55:56
  What I struggle with on those weekends, and it's good in a way, but you have like two sessions a day and then just like literally nothing else.
• 56:04
  Oh, because there's no...
• 56:05
  There's nothing happening.
• 56:06
  So you go away for such a long weekend and you're just like, we could have done all this in a day.
• 56:11
  Yeah.
• 56:13
  Are you going to do any more in the year?
• 56:16
  I haven't got anything locked in, but we've got to set up.
• 56:20
  The engineer.
• 56:21
  Should we get him on the blower and ask him some questions?
• 56:23
  Yeah, see what he's got bombshells.
• 56:25
  But I want to try to do a couple of races in Europe.
• 56:28
  So I raced there a couple of months ago.
• 56:30
  With those guys or with AAA?
• 56:33
  No, just with anyone.
• 56:34
  I went and drove for a Merc team a couple of months ago at Monza.
• 56:37
  How cool is that?
• 56:38
  Yeah, it's sick.
• 56:39
  It's fast, man.
• 56:40
  Did you go out on the banking?
• 56:42
  Yeah.
• 56:42
  Oh, you would have gone for carding days.
• 56:43
  Yeah, I briefly went there, but yeah, it's unreal.
• 56:47
  Like, super cool.
• 56:48
  We struggled, but like I want to try and do like four or five there next year.
• 56:52
  I haven't got anything lined up, but yeah, you know, hopefully sort something out, but then hopefully do a good job at the 12 hour and then the phone starts ringing.
• 57:02
  What are you holding back?
• 57:03
  He's doing his NASCAR stuff.
• 57:04
  No, it looks like he's about to drop something.
• 57:07
  No, I was just holding back a burp.
• 57:08
  I'll just let one go.
• 57:10
  But is it going to be in the main one?
• 57:13
  Yeah, that's what I'm hoping.
• 57:15
  Oh, well, definitely for one, but it's just, you know, I guess Chicago's one I want to do.
• 57:20
  But, you know, a lot of the guys over there want to do it.
• 57:22
  So it's if a car's available, a team's available.
• 57:24
  So waiting to hear on that one.
• 57:25
  That'd be awesome if I could try to do that.
• 57:27
  But I'd be happy to do Xfinity if I couldn't get that.
• 57:30
  And, you know, obviously Xfinity's over there.
• 57:32
  It's pretty big.
• 57:33
  So I just think it's cool.
• 57:35
  Was it a good experience?
• 57:37
  Yeah, it was cool.
• 57:37
  Like, obviously, it was disappointing the car broke down.
• 57:39
  But the GM simulator, so I went over there, did the GM simulator for, like, a few days, came back, and then went over there and did it a few days before the round again, rolled out of the pits.
• 57:50
  And on my, I think my first lap, sorry, my second lap, I was third.
• 57:55
  Because I just did what the simulator was.
• 57:57
  Must be pretty good Sims then.
• 58:00
  Oh, they're amazing.
• 58:01
  Like it literally was the same feeling.
• 58:03
  I was like, oh, right, like just do this here, do that there.
• 58:05
  And I'm like, oh, yeah.
• 58:06
  Like even like to some of the areas you had understeer, I was like, oh, the sim, I wonder if it's this good that we can actually, we had a bit of understeer on the sim and didn't change it.
• 58:14
  And then it was the exact same through that corner, you know, straight away out the gate.
• 58:18
  So it was pretty amazing.
• 58:20
  But I don't know.
• 58:21
  I just look at.
• 58:22
  I sort of want to compare myself against, I didn't, you went overseas and did, you know, the journey to F1 and that sort of stuff and obviously did really well, but I've sort of stayed in Australia.
• 58:31
  So like, even though I'm not planning on going to NASCAR, but I can go over there and compare myself against those guys.
• 58:35
  If I can do the 12 hour and all that, you can compare yourself outside of just the Australian motorsport.
• 58:40
  But I think it has shown with Shane going over there and when everyone goes, like it's, it's pretty competitive here, you know?
• 58:47
  So yeah.
• 58:47
  Yeah.
• 58:47
  See what happens.
• 58:48
  What about you?
• 58:49
  You just, you know.
• 58:50
  I'm too old.
• 58:50
  I'm lucky to have the drive I've got, I reckon.
• 58:52
  So I'll just see how next year.
• 58:55
  Walk down the grid at the end of the year.
• 58:56
  Shake your hands.
• 58:57
  It's not very often someone announced their retirement, like a year and eight months out or something.
• 59:01
  Yeah, what was the go there?
• 59:02
  I just ballsed up, really.
• 59:03
  I was just doing an interview and I was talking about real estate stuff.
• 59:06
  So I didn't really think anyone from motorsport world would be listening on Channel 7 News or whatever it was and just rolled it out.
• 59:14
  But the funniest was the next morning I was just –
• 59:17
  in bed and I got a message from my manager, Alan, not really my manager, but was.
• 59:21
  And he goes, why the hell did you retire on TV last night?
• 59:23
  I'm like, what are you talking about?
• 59:25
  And he goes, you're retired?
• 59:26
  I said, no, I didn't.
• 59:26
  I just did an interview about real estate.
• 59:28
  And he goes, have you watched the video?
• 59:30
  And I'm like, no.
• 59:30
  And he goes, go back and watch it.
• 59:32
  So I watch it.
• 59:32
  I'm like, oh, God.
• 59:34
  But yeah, I'll do this year and that's it, mate.
• 59:38
  It's been cracking.
• 59:39
  I can't believe I've been able to do it this long.
• 59:41
  Yeah.
• 59:42
  It's awesome.
• 59:42
  I love it.
• 59:43
  But I don't want it to happen like what's happened to a few of the guys where they get to the end and it's being tapped on the shoulder like this is your time.
• 59:51
  You're done.
• 59:52
  I wanted to be the guy that called it.
• 59:54
  So, yeah, here we are.
• 59:57
  How's the real estate going?
• 59:57
  You sold many?
• 59:58
  Yeah.
• 59:58
  Yeah, good.
• 59:59
  I'm actually just waiting on the contract to be signed right now, which would be nice.
• 1:00:03
  But no, I'm enjoying it.
• 1:00:04
  Something completely different.
• 1:00:06
  When are you going to start putting your mobile on there, though?
• 1:00:08
  I tried ringing up on one recently.
• 1:00:09
  James Courtney, he can't even call you.
• 1:00:11
  Yeah, he can.
• 1:00:12
  Can you?
• 1:00:12
  Yeah.
• 1:00:13
  Do you have a different mobile?
• 1:00:16
  Do you have heaps of fans calling you?
• 1:00:18
  No, no one's ever called me.
• 1:00:19
  Yeah, it's been good.
• 1:00:20
  Everyone look at the things and call them.
• 1:00:23
  I'll erase what you can.
• 1:00:25
  Phone's already ringing now.
• 1:00:26
  Thanks, guys.
• 1:00:27
  That's all booking an inspection for a few days in a row.
• 1:00:32
  We've got this place sold.
• 1:00:33
  I'll be sending everyone to Carsgill.
• 1:00:35
  Yeah, perfect.
• 1:00:36
  Send them up there.
• 1:00:36
  I do need a car for a little Zara.
• 1:00:38
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:39
  We'll have to get that sorted.
• 1:00:40
  Yeah.
• 1:00:41
  As long as you're doing me a good deal.
• 1:00:43
  Good deal.
• 1:00:44
  And he just wants a house on the Gold Coast.
• 1:00:45
  But Chrissy, you guys are just chilling?
• 1:00:47
  Hanging out?
• 1:00:48
  Nothing.
• 1:00:49
  I don't know yet.
• 1:00:50
  I'm going up to Mooloolaba, but we're going to go over.
• 1:00:53
  My girlfriend wants to go overseas, so we're going overseas.
• 1:00:55
  Oh, where are you going?
• 1:00:56
  I don't know yet.
• 1:00:57
  To America for a NASCAR race?
• 1:00:58
  Yeah, we'll go overseas, plan it with a race.
• 1:01:01
  No, I'd be happy to go to Bali or Japan.
• 1:01:04
  I haven't done Japan, so I'd be pretty keen to go check that out.
• 1:01:06
  Maybe go for a stay.
• 1:01:07
  Some cool tracks there.
• 1:01:08
  Is there?
• 1:01:09
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:01:10
  Motegi, Suzuka.
• 1:01:11
  Yeah.
• 1:01:12
  Suga.
• 1:01:14
  I'm not going to a racetrack but it's supposed to be the best excuse me the powder skiing in the world yeah it's winter for that yeah so up in the north it's awesome well I think in Bali but I think they've got those monkeys the red ass ones that sit in the snow really they sit in the hot springs yeah they sit in the hot springs they're funny yeah right
• 1:01:31
  What are you doing?
• 1:01:33
  Nothing.
• 1:01:34
  Hanging out?
• 1:01:34
  Just hanging out at home.
• 1:01:35
  Tegan's just on.
• 1:01:37
  She's got three months to go.
• 1:01:38
  Yeah.
• 1:01:39
  The next little Courtney number four, which is scary.
• 1:01:41
  You're going to have to keep driving.
• 1:01:43
  Well, you're going to have to sell a lot of real estate.
• 1:01:44
  Well, that's why I had to keep driving now because of those ones.
• 1:01:48
  But yeah, no more kids.
• 1:01:50
  That's it.
• 1:01:50
  At least it's good because there's a gap.
• 1:01:53
  There's a gap.
• 1:01:54
  So Zara can look after them.
• 1:01:56
  I try that.
• 1:01:56
  She's not that interested though.
• 1:01:58
  Oh, right.
• 1:01:58
  But it's a good contraception.
• 1:02:00
  She's like, I'm like, if you do that, this is what you end up with.
• 1:02:03
  Hopefully I slowed her down.
• 1:02:06
  But she's been trying flat out texting me all day because it's her last day of school tomorrow for the kids.
• 1:02:12
  And she's like, no one's at school.
• 1:02:13
  Everyone's gone.
• 1:02:14
  Come and get me.
• 1:02:15
  So she's been into me and I'm like, I'm in Brisbane.
• 1:02:17
  She goes, I'll come.
• 1:02:18
  And I'm like, no.
• 1:02:19
  Have you had any of the, you know, grade 12 parties?
• 1:02:21
  Dad, I want to have a party.
• 1:02:22
  No, but I have had the first bloke come over for dinner.
• 1:02:26
  How'd that go?
• 1:02:27
  It's so hard.
• 1:02:28
  Like, it's hard to explain.
• 1:02:31
  It's just, yeah.
• 1:02:32
  Did you get all the boys over and reenact the, what's the scene out of Bad Boys?
• 1:02:37
  Bad Boys with guns and stuff.
• 1:02:38
  No, I try to be the cool dad, but it's not easy.
• 1:02:43
  And because I know what I was like, I'm just like, oh, no.
• 1:02:46
  And so I was like, boys, I'm like that, Dad.
• 1:02:48
  And I'm like, I was a 17-year-old boy.
• 1:02:51
  I know exactly what they're thinking.
• 1:02:53
  But, yeah, so that's my Christmas is blocking that stuff off.
• 1:02:59
  Cadell's got his grand final for basketball tomorrow night, which is cool.
• 1:03:03
  Oh, awesome.
• 1:03:04
  He loves basketball.
• 1:03:05
  So, yeah.
• 1:03:06
  I can't believe how much they've grown up.
• 1:03:08
  Yeah, it's wild.
• 1:03:09
  It's crazy.
• 1:03:10
  So, yeah, scary.
• 1:03:11
  But, anyway, and starting again.
• 1:03:13
  You guys will be.
• 1:03:14
  Will's next.
• 1:03:15
  Yeah.
• 1:03:16
  In on that, too.
• 1:03:18
  How long have you guys been together?
• 1:03:19
  Three and a half, I reckon.
• 1:03:21
  Or maybe four.
• 1:03:23
  Yeah, so.
• 1:03:24
  No, I'm too busy.
• 1:03:26
  She'd be a single mum.
• 1:03:27
  She'd be literally a single mum.
• 1:03:29
  I'm away.
• 1:03:30
  I think I was home for four days of the last five weeks.
• 1:03:33
  Cats didn't even look at me when I came.
• 1:03:35
  They don't generally anyway.
• 1:03:36
  Yeah.
• 1:03:37
  But, yeah.
• 1:03:38
  So that's it.
• 1:03:39
  So nothing else?
• 1:03:40
  You all?
• 1:03:40
  Just home?
• 1:03:41
  Yeah, just chilling at home.
• 1:03:42
  Chilling at home.
• 1:03:43
  A bit of boating and that.
• 1:03:44
  Just try and enjoy the actual place that we live in.
• 1:03:47
  I think we live in a pretty good spot.
• 1:03:49
  It is a beautiful time of year.
• 1:03:50
  Thank you very much for joining us.
• 1:03:51
  It's been a crazy 2024.
• 1:03:56
  An amazing champion.
• 1:03:58
  You put up a great fight the whole way to the end.
• 1:04:00
  So I commend you on the championships.
• 1:04:02
  Nice to have you on board.
• 1:04:04
  Thank you.
• 1:04:04
  On the championship.
• 1:04:05
  I'm still hanging on to it.
• 1:04:06
  It was a long time ago.
• 1:04:08
  I'll hang on to it all the time.
• 1:04:10
  But hopefully everyone that watches and listens has a Merry Christmas.
• 1:04:13
  Thank you to all the team owners and team crews and sponsors, all those people that their partners were away racing, helping us do what we do to entertain everyone.
• 1:04:23
  So thank you to all those people.
• 1:04:25
  And I hope everyone has a Merry and safe Christmas and New Year.
• 1:04:28
  Beautifully wrapped up.
• 1:04:29
  You can tell he's definitely getting ready for me.
• 1:04:31
  He's getting ready for the mic.
• 1:04:32
  He's getting ready for the mic.
• 1:04:33
  He's getting ready for the mic.
• 1:04:34
  Right, that's a wrap, guys.
• 1:04:35
  See you guys.