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Weekend Recap, Scott Dochterman talks Hawkeyes & Big Ten football · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hi, good afternoon. Welcome to the Iowa Sports Radio
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Network. It's Miller and Condon to get
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things going as Trent and I will talk sports with you right up
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until 2:00. Here's what's coming up on our
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program. Scott Dockerman's been busy
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writing at The Athletic this week following all of the SEC,
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the college football dot dot dot.
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We will take a look at that. It's good piece on the Iowa
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offense as well. It came out earlier in the week
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football wise, and we'll talk to Doc about those topics and more.
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And he joins us at at the bottom of the hour.
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It's Monday, so that means Matt Snyder's going to be here to
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talk baseball with Trent tonight.
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Trent will make some plays before we get out of here just
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before 2:00. So the weekends behind, what
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about a difference between two and three day weekend?
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Right? Just flew by.
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My God, what a picturesque night Saturday was just gorgeous
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weather wise. But I'll buckle up because here
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comes the Heat, at least today. So we are now set in both the
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Stanley Cup and the NBA. It is the Pacers.
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It is. OK, C and the Venera may be the
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biggest basketball topic that it came up to, at least for me over
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the weekend, was watching the Inside the NBA crew sign off one
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final time, F bombs and all on Saturday night.
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I I couldn't I couldn't turn the channel.
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I just wanted to see just soaking everything in, you know,
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what they had to say in their final go round on TNT.
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It feels like it's not going to be the same.
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Yeah, you brought it up last week.
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I searched over the weekend. So what does this mean post
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game? Are they going to go right to
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SVP? No, that's not what they should
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be doing. But I I don't know.
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I haven't found any clarity. But inside the NBA after what
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was it, 36 years, signed off for the final time and it hit the
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boys hard. And then yesterday, spending as
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much time on Twitter just looking at some of the greatest
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moments from that show over the year and some of the laughs that
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they've had, and Oh my God, what a great, great piece of
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television history. A great group of people that you
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can tell enjoy working together and you start with that
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component of it and the fun that they had, not taking themselves
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too seriously. No, certainly.
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Not now. The other component is no.
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You want hard cutting analysis, That's how you get there.
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They're opinions, they'll give you opinions, but they they can
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be hard cutting. Oh.
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Absolutely. But a lot of times it's not
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backed up by stats, they're backed up by feelings.
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Right And. Chuck getting names wrong,
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right? Absolutely NBA player or
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whatever, the game that they are playing and he wouldn't be
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getting the ball right. But that's not why you went
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there for it. It was for the entertainment and
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that is the concern as we talked about last week going forward.
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Now, I guess it didn't strike me in the same way because we are
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still going to get it next year. And because of that I wasn't all
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wrapped up that I had to do it. Maybe it also helped that, you
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know, there's other things going on and I just I wasn't as into
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it at the end because it's not over.
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It will be there. The fashion, it'll probably be
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different, but it's still going to be there and we're still
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going to get the laughs. So we're still going to get what
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makes inside the NBA so. Good.
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Are they more are Do they have more power behind them to enact
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change at ESPNC? Maybe ESP NS got an idea of
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wait, they what they want the show to be like and inside the
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NB as got an idea of what they want to do and that's their
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quote show. Are they powerful enough to No,
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no, no, It's going to be our way.
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I don't think so. That's too bad.
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I don't believe that they do because ultimately there are a
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lot of people a lot higher up, you know, the head of Turner
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Sports as we know it, whatever the new name of it now is.
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But David Zaslov, he is mocked by people inside the industry.
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He has laughed at letting the NBA fall away.
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He is somebody that has looked down upon and this was but.
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What is your What? Is the show under his umbrella?
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Right. But what does what does his fan
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base want? What are people tuning into that
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show want? They want what they see night
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after night. Do we know what the ratings are
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for it? Have we ever heard any ratings
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things about Inside? No, you know what I go by by the
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awards that it wins. You know, it's it's TNT, It's
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not the four letter network. It's and it's been there for a
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long time, I'll give you that. And it's certainly people are
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accustomed to turning there, but it's the it's the Emmys that
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they continue to win and the acclaim that people in the
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industry have for that show. But for the shareholders of
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Disney, for the people that work at ESPN awards, don't make your
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next paycheck. It's about money and ultimately
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the way that they do things and the commercial breaks and all
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that, it's different and ultimately I think it's going to
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come back to that. ESPN will have final say and it
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will look a whole lot. Different.
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If it is, how long do they stay? I think Chuck said.
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I saw on on Twitter, apparently he's on Dan Patrick today.
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He's got a seven-year contract that he's going to give the boys
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2. If it's not the same, do you
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think that you know what? It's hard to walk away for $20
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million working like 50 nights a year.
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But they've got a lot of millions of dollars.
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They do. One would.
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Assume absolutely. We'll see where it goes.
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And they're all getting up in age.
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I mean, Shaq doesn't need to work.
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Chuck doesn't need to work. I'm guessing Jet's the same way
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And and Ernie. Doesn't need to work.
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That guy's made millions of self here over the last 20 years.
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Without a doubt. And then the people that were a
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part of the show that you just forget about, right?
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Some of the people that were on there.
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Well, we'll see where it goes, but it kind of felt like the end
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of an era. It really did.
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And yes, we should be talking about the Pacers and they moving
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on. I just kind of get the sense
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it's just like it's inevitable if they're about to be handed
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their fate. And it's not good.
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I don't think. I mean, I hope I'm wrong, but
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the betting favorite in in this series.
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I mean, you can't bet. You can't bet OK, C they're -7
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dollars. You have to bet $7.00 to make a
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buck. But the if if you if you have to
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make a bet on this series, it's the number of games they would
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win it in and five games is the favorite.
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So you know, the gentleman sweep that they that the Pacers would
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get one. I'm not even sure they'll get
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one. And you get a better price if
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you better sweep because you can get the, excuse me, the Thunder
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in four at 3 to 1. The gentleman sweep it at five
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games at 2:00 to 1. So you get a whole lot of better
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price at Circa if you're going that direction.
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Now, if you think the Pacers are going to do it so you can get
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them at what? You think the Pacers are going
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to do? If you if you think you know
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what you. Call me, I'll take your bet.
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We can't do. That I know I'm just kidding,
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but if you don't, I mean, think again.
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Save your money instead of betting them though, at plus 550
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they're not going to win in a sweep.
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No, they're. Not going to win at 5:00.
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I don't think so. Maybe 6?
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I would be shocked. Or 7.
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So what are those prices? Plus 1130 Pacers and 6 + 1625
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Pacers and seven. So if you want to have a bet,
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take that bet. If you're betting units, 20
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bucks, take 10, put it on Pacers and six, take 10, put it on
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Pacers and seven. Yeah, because they're not
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winning in a sweep they're not winning at.
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Five, I would be stunned. Yes, I would be stunned.
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I would be stunned if you know what I meant to do and I forgot
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to do it. Damn it, when these two teams
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played each other this year, how did Halliburton do against Dort?
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Oh yeah, right, because he's supposed to be.
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He's going to be seeing a lot of him over the next over this
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series. We'll see.
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Hats off to him. The atmosphere seemingly was it
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was a terrific place to be on on Saturday night as the Pacers.
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I mean, New York really was never in this basketball.
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Game No. If you didn't see, didn't miss
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much. It was what, 4140?
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I think it was it. Was, you know what, that's fair.
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Middle second in the game. Early in the game it was.
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And then it just kind of got away and never came back.
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It was the the surge in the third quarter and then it was
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just cruise control. Yeah, yeah, you're right.
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It was it was the second-half that it got on.
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There, locked it on 75 and they just cruised on in to the
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finals. I saw.
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So this is the first time in the luxury tax era that we have two
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teams that are not paying the luxury tax.
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Really. Since 2003.
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Something to be said for that. We wanted parody or people
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wanted parody in the NBA because there were just certain teams,
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yeah. The television networks don't
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this week. You got what you wanted.
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And be going to Oklahoma City and you're going to
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Indianapolis. You want a fan base that
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everybody feels like they have a chance?
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Well, you have it now, OKC against Indiana.
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Who do the networks? Who does the ABCESP and
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gravitate towards? Halliburton, SG.
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ASGA, he was the MVP, I think. Yeah, that's going to be the
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direction. And I wonder if they're going to
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try to sell us that, you know, his brand.
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It's it's not a bad brand basketball, even though we all
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know. He's such a hell of a player, he
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really is. I don't know how they're going
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to try and present this thing, but the I mean the pre game show
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and the post game God, it's just not even close.
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And and the play by play the same way, I think anyways, but
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we shall wait for Thursday for that one.
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They'll will drop the puck on Wednesday night for game one of
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the Stanley Cup. So it's a lot of baseball boys,
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since we're talking basketball to begin with and and we're
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talking about Indiana or Indianapolis and the Indiana
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Pacers, the Indiana Fever, not the same.
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Group. No.
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If there's any doubt what she means to her team, look at the
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result of the last couple of nights.
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Now, I know that there were some injuries in that game, but this
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they were what, a 12 point favorite?
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I think I saw 13 point favorite. That Connecticut team's awful,
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terrible. They were gutted from what they
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were a year. Absolutely.
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I saw something that when did they play the Liberty?
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Was recently the Liberty yesterday?
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Was it yesterday? Lost by 52, they're crushed.
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It's like the second worst loss in WNBA history.
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Right. And we just saw what the Liberty
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and the fever did with Caitlin on the floor.
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That was toe to toe that could have gone either way, went the
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Liberty's way. But Oh my God.
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So so they got gutted, huh? I mean, that's where Stephanie
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White was. And obviously the the roster not
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the same. But man, oh man, this league
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needs her in the worst way. Her team needs her.
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And it's coming up on this Saturday.
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CBS needs her and they're not going to have her so.
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Is that official? Because she's out.
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Because they said two weeks but depending on the timeline when
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the two weeks starts. Well, I would think they're
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trying to do everything they can to get her on the floor because
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a, it's the Chicago squad, it's the Indiana squad.
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They want to obviously want the match up against each.
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Other, but they can beat Chicago.
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Chicago's bad. That's a bad team.
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Well. They can are.
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The fever any good? They're banked up too.
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It's not just Caitlin, right? And then depending on the rest
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of the health of the team, when you're looking at the teams
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though that you can potentially beat without Caitlin, Chicago's
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on that list. So, and really, this week was.
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Yukon Trent, Connecticut. Not Yukon.
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Yukon would have beat them, right?
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So was Connecticut Trent. I understand that, but I'm just
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saying if you're healthy and you think another couple of days is
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going to be she came back too soon or she shouldn't have been
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playing in Carver Hawkeye Arena, I don't think it's a stretch to
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say that yes it. Was the same injury?
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But it's the other leg, right? Of course, because you're using,
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you're compensating. Precisely.
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You could, and you have a quad strain and there's four muscles
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in the quad and you can look at you.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been reading up on this,
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but again, I fell down those rabbit holes.
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Twitter sucks. It's an awful, awful invention,
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just for a myriad of different ways.
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Stay on the for you. Yes.
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Are they? No, No.
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Followers. Followers.
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Followers, Yeah. Just in general, it's an awful
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toxic place. And then you go down some of
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these rabbit holes and WNBA Twitter might be the worst
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Twitter that there is out there. The racy, the back and forth,
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you make one comment and just what direction that it can go.
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But I I went down that direction and sometime over the weekend
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and I just, I felt dirty afterward, needed to shower.
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It's bad. It's so ugly and gross and all I
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was looking at was more information on entries.
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That's all I was looking for and Colson get.
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Colson's out and Holson, they're both out.
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No, Cunningham not not Lexi. She's good.
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Lexi. How this good?
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It's Cunningham that's out. Cunningham and Coulson were the
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two that got out, got knocked out over the weekend.
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We'll see where it goes. Baseball from over the weekend.
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Don't look now, but the Chicago Cubs are tied for the best
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record in the National League. How about that?
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Didn't have that to begin the month of.
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June Nor did I. Coming into the season, we like
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them. We thought they were going to be
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the division favorite and they've proven certainly that.
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The way this team though, just the way that they play, it's
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such an enjoyable day of flipping out a ball.
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Game it is. Because.
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Especially when Boog's in the booth.
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They're never out of it, Boog. They're never out of it the way
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that they can beat you with the speed with the power.
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Oh, now look, you know it's Suzuki that's been red hot for
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the last couple weeks and and the 2-3 weeks preview prior it
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was BC Watson BCA. It's just.
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Somebody just Shaw making what he's what?
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Look what him he's doing. Coming back in, what he's been
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able to do and what we talked about him getting sent down and
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building it up, it's an enjoyable team and yet you know
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that this is not going to be the team that we're going to see in
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October. I don't think so, but I'm not.
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I'm starting to think that, you know what, maybe they don't need
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to go get a closer. I know it's May, late May into
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June baseball and Palencia's doing what he's supposed to be
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doing and it's a different animal once you get to October.
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But man, Trent, I mean, he's got, he's throwing it over 100
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miles an hour. He's accurate.
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He's getting strikeouts. He's not getting hit.
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I'm impressed. I'm impressed with what I'm
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seeing from him. The I belong now, I thought it
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was going to be Porter Hodge. I mean, going back to the first.
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It might have been had he not got hurt.
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He still. But I've always been a
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proponent. They just need more arms, the
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depth of the bullpen. And it doesn't have to be a
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close. You know, people are so
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infatuated with closers and closer.
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We've seen that that has shifted so much the last 3-4 years.
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Go back to the Royals. Oh absolutely.
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And that was 123, like 789. Get 6 innings out of your
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starter and Wade Davis and Herrera and.
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The other guy. The other guy I got 2 out of 3.
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Not bad off the top of that. But now we see so many managers
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that manage in a way closer is going to be our best pitcher.
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He might pitch in the seventh, he might pitch in the 5th.
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You're going to go that direction.
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The Cubs, in order to get to that kind of bullpen, I just
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think that they need a couple of very good veteran arms to get to
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that point and bluntly might be that guy in the back end.
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He's been great. I watched your team over the
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weekend, the twins out in out in Seattle.
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Friday night was great. You know what, Trent?
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I'm kicking myself. I turned it off with one out in
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the night. Oh, you did that?
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Close and then it then it hit the fan.
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But Paddock yesterday was unbelievable.
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Him and Castilla going head to head course.
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Castilla was up. What after six?
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Did he pitch it in the 7th? Whatever.
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It was a real pitchers duel. I think it was one.
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It was zip, zip. To that point when he came out,
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Paddock was phenomenal. I really was.
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Twins are legit. Twins are legit.
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Well. They lose 2 out of three in
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Seattle and easily could have been a sweat.
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Absolutely could be. Come back on Friday.
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Jack and I went out to the ball game on Friday night.
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I Cubs game. No did you?
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And so just got home, got him to bed and then was able to watch
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the end of the Twins game. So that was an enjoyable cap to
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the baseball night. And I'm with you like I'm not
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frustrated. Now they go to Oakland.
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You'll be frustrated in Royce Lewis.
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I I don't know. As we talked about him last
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week, there's nothing you can do at this point, is it?
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Yeah, I don't think. I mean, they pulled him
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yesterday. He's a sports psychologist type
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of thing, isn't it? Yeah, I mean that they.
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Pinch hit for him yesterday. Trent, what are your I get they.
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Should 4 for your last. 80 No, I no kidding.
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Baldelli did the right thing, but it's just jarring that of
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all the people that I mean, this guy had superstar written all
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over him. I thought he's the number one
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overall. Pick and he.
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Not the Twins overall first round pick.
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Yeah, the number one overall pick.
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And he looked like he was on his way to backing that up, but my
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God. He's never had anything like
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this and I still believe in talent.
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What are the dots that he's got on the back of his neck, Do you
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know? There's like a line of two lines
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of little circles about the size of, I don't know, a dime maybe
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on the back from his hairline? Well, as far as you can see,
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into his uniform. I thought I'd never seen that
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before. I don't know.
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I mean, the I it, it was just, it kind of stuck out on the
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television broadcast anyways. But yeah, Twins, it was a fun
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watch. It was some of the local teams,
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one of the local teams calling up their guy Caglione, the kid
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we've been talking about the, the power hitter that is working
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his way through the royal system.
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Well, he's worked his way all the way through his royal
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system. He's going to play when Kansas
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City resumes their play this week.
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Jack Caglione been a fast track to the major leagues, but here
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he is and he's going to join the Royals tomorrow.
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That was a fun series as well. Watching the Tigers watching
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Scooble pitch against Kansas City baseball was good over the
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weekend, which was great because it was either that or one
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basketball game. And you don't get into any of
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the College World Series. I know, I just don't.
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Know the team. I've been enjoying the softball.
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Now I can't figure out the rule are the the fact that you can't
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go back and challenge whether a player touched home plate or
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not. Yeah, right after.
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Watching the fail for 15 minutes.
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Right when it's clear she didn't touch home plate.
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And then her teammate assisted her back.
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And you can't make content our contact rather.
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But Trent, I would. I was probably, you know, of the
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opinion. Yeah, I can't.
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Anybody can hit that. But then you see it gets on you
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quick, it does get on you quick. And then they go, who was it?
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What Major League Baseball player is a big name?
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There's a big name. Wanted to was it Griffey?
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No. Wanted to face Jenny Finch.
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I think it was it a rod as soon as he might.
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There was a But I know exactly what you're saying.
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Yeah, I can't. Remember the superstar Major
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League Baseball player couldn't touch.
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Was it Poulos? Could have been.
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Don't know who it was, but if a player of that ilk stood in the
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batter's box and and tried to hit Jenny Finch's pitching and
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Oh my God, good luck. So my algorithm now on Facebook
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and on Instagram with like the little reels that pop up, the
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little videos, there's a lot of softball stuff because I'm
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looking at, you know, coaching tips and things like that.
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And a bunch of those show up and it'll be like, all right, we got
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these 5 college athletes. So we're going to go out there
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and we're going to see who can hit against a softball pitcher.
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I don't, you know, the baseball guy goes up there, I'll swag.
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Yeah, this is no big deal. And they are.
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Yeah, absolutely. All right, let's get let's get
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baseball Benny in here. By the way, just real quick on
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this. I know you were at a principal
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park Friday. Saw some of the video from De
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Jean's event yesterday. Well done.
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Well done. And and the number of guys that
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showed up to participate in and I'm, I'm guessing on their own
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dime to get to Des Moines to help out their teammate.
19:45
That was that was fascinating stuff.
19:48
Benny, welcome to the program. Is this going to be an annual
19:50
event? Do you know?
19:52
It's this was the second year, so hopefully.
19:54
Well, shame. Shame on me.
19:55
I had no idea until somebody called me Friday with 15 minutes
19:58
left in the show that this has taken place this weekend.
20:01
Hi, Benny, how are you? I am doing absolutely fantastic
20:05
in the 20 O 4 Pepsi All Star game, Finch struck out Bulls
20:10
Piazza and Brian Johnson. Jesus.
20:14
That's awesome, yeah. That she she was she was
20:17
unhittable. Like he rise balls everything.
20:21
You see it in a different angle. It's ridiculous.
20:23
But you were you were asking about how did Halliburton play
20:27
against the. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:29
Not not well. Got beat 132 to 111.
20:34
He scored 18 points, 4 assists, 3 rebounds.
20:37
Second game 120 to 114 loss. 4 points, 8 assists, 2 rebounds.
20:44
Averaged 11 points, 6 assists, 1 1/2 rebounds per game in the two
20:49
games against said MVP. 33, eight and seven in the first
20:54
game for Shay. 45-8 and seven in the second game for Shay.
20:59
Shay averaged 39.8 rebounds, 7 assists.
21:02
Thanks to Spacers I think, and I heard of that this morning guys.
21:08
The Thunder went 29 and one against the Eastern Conference.
21:14
Oh my God. Think about that.
21:15
What's the sweep pricing entrance 3:00 to?
21:18
One you can get the sweep. That might actually.
21:22
That might actually. It should probably be two to one
21:25
if you want. Probably will be.
21:27
Get it while you can, Betty. Thanks for the call.
21:29
Appreciate it. Yeah, Good to talk to you.
21:32
That's wild. Just since we're kind of pulp
21:35
ring as we always do in this first segment.
21:37
Did you hear Jack Nicklaus talk to Scotty Scheffler on the
21:39
podium after the golf tournament yesterday?
21:41
I. Didn't.
21:43
And he's right. And he's basically saying, you
21:45
know, Scotty's, you're crushing all these guys.
21:49
But who he beating? Oh, and he wasn't talking down
21:52
to Scheffler. But it was shots fired at Rory.
21:56
Maybe good point 'cause he didn't, he didn't play and
21:58
didn't. He didn't show up for the second
22:00
elevated event. Who was at the forefront to get
22:02
these elevated events? Rory McIlroy.
22:04
Not only that, Rory didn't call Jack and let him know.
22:06
And when you're of that stature, you need to let Jack Nicholas
22:10
know you're not going to be. There misstep on on on Rory's
22:12
part. I agree with you.
22:13
I agree with you. I mean if it was.
22:14
Missed the last two elevated events.
22:16
You didn't show up. You didn't make the phone call.
22:18
And I think it was a shot at, not a shot.
22:20
It's just a shot at golf period. Get you, you know what together,
22:24
yes, right, everybody, let's get everybody.
22:26
Let's have Bryson Dechambeau show up at this and let's get
22:29
all of these guys that took the money from Liv to come back
22:33
because Scheffler is just here, here.
22:36
Do you know Kyle Porter? You follow him.
22:37
Pretty good golf rider. Yes, absolutely.
22:39
Yep. Scotty Scheffler's played 12
22:41
events this year. You follow me, right?
22:44
The medium player, So an average player on the PGA Tour who
22:49
finished in the middle of the pack and all of those
22:51
tournaments of the 12 that he played.
22:53
And this average player made the cut and say 9 or 10 of those 12
22:56
events, his aggregate score and he would have made the cut on in
23:00
the ones that he that he didn't, his aggregate score would have
23:04
been +8 medal of the pack guy, +8 those same 12 tournaments.
23:09
Scheffler's -140 he's 140 under, 148 stroke differential from him
23:16
to a middle of the pack Tour player.
23:18
Scotty Scheffler won three times in May.
23:20
The Colorado Rockies won three times in May.
23:22
They got 28 games to do it. He got 4 tournaments.
23:25
He had 4 tournaments. He's playing it.
23:29
It's not even fun. Yeah, it's not.
23:31
And how can you tune in to watch these events?
23:34
It's a foregone conclusion. It's kind of like the NBA.
23:36
Yeah. What we're embarking upon.
23:38
Well, and I watch more Saturday. Did you watch?
23:40
Some golf I did, I never did on Sunday just because of that,
23:44
like because at that time. He was anointed.
23:46
No, he was like 3 strokes back. It was before Griffin blew up
23:49
towards the end. He had an awful hole in there
23:51
somewhere and that's when all of a sudden I got jumped aboard
23:55
with Scotty here because he's actually plus money at that
23:57
point. But that's you're right, it's
24:00
not entertaining come Sunday what he is doing to the rest of
24:04
the tour. But you know what, Trent?
24:06
It used to be entertaining when it was.
24:07
Tiger that was dominating, Yeah, personality.
24:10
Yeah, like him, a lot like him or hate him.
24:14
Mm hmm. Scotty, you took the side, yes.
24:16
Yeah, he had an opinion. Scotty doesn't.
24:18
No. He is just a nice guy.
24:20
Yeah, really nice guy. Yep.
24:22
But boring as white milk. Yep.
24:25
You're getting nothing from him. No guy that was arrested 13
24:29
months ago. Slurf time locked up, cuffed and
24:35
stuffed. I will take your time out.
24:38
We'll come back. Scott Dockerman will join us to
24:40
talk college football with Doc Iowa football with Doc Really
24:43
good piece on Tim Lester's offense.
24:46
I will delve into that with Scott Dockerman when he joins us
24:50
next. Miller and Condon underway on a
24:51
Monday. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
24:53
Network. I'm Millory Condon.
24:59
Welcome back just past 1230 on a Monday.
25:01
Hour number two, Matt Snyder, CBSSports.com.
25:04
We'll talk baseball and Alec Bussey covers Iowa State for
25:10
24/7 sports. cyclonealert.com right now, Scott Dockerman from
25:13
The Athletic. He's been busy writing about the
25:16
Hawkeye offense, keeping up with the SEC and their plans to,
25:21
well, do what they do to college sports.
25:22
We'll see where it and stock. Good to talk to you, Trent.
25:26
Ken, thanks for coming on. I guess where I want to start,
25:28
Doc, is with one of our talking points from last week.
25:32
And just the fact that I learned that there's some rules, some
25:36
strings had to be pulled, some, I don't know if it was back and
25:40
forth horse trading or whatever, But for Fox to get the Seihawk
25:44
game and do so in the in the 11 O clock central window, that's
25:48
quite a cool Scott Dockerman. Hey, hey, good to be on with you
25:53
guys. And what what transpired and I?
25:56
Talked to all the. Heads of all three networks and
25:59
did a story on the on the draft between, you know, how the Big
26:03
10 media partners draft the Big 10 games.
26:06
And this was the first year where the Big 10 was supposed to
26:10
have one of its games in the Big Noon time slot every single
26:15
week. Last year it had there was room
26:18
for one Big 12 game. And part of that was because
26:22
Texas and Oklahoma were still when the whole thing was
26:26
negotiated. We're still part of the Big 12,
26:29
so they had room for one of those games.
26:31
Well, that of course ended and then they ended up going with
26:35
Penn State at West Virginia last year.
26:36
But this was the first year where there was supposed to be a
26:39
Big 10 only window and a Big 10 campus.
26:42
But as you saw maybe the the week that was Week 2 for the Big
26:47
10, They have nothing, nothing of value at all on one of its
26:51
home campuses. And Fox initially had it slated
26:55
for the middle of the day. And I think it was FIU at Penn
26:58
State was going to be on Fox. And they just didn't feel very
27:01
good about it. And so they they went to the Big
27:04
10 and and said, Hey, is there any way we can get an exception
27:06
here? We'd like to be an aim big
27:09
rivalry game, two teams that could buy for 19 wins last year.
27:13
You still have a Big 10 game. We still have a relationship
27:15
with, with the Big 12 and the Big 10 granted that.
27:19
So it's going to be, you know, quite the atmosphere you're
27:22
going to you get the big noon kick off show, you're going to
27:25
get, you know, big noon exposure and it's it's going to be a go
27:30
to an already big, big day in in central Iowa an.
27:35
Interesting note to me because I always thought it was 5149%.
27:39
That's the ownership of the Big 10 network.
27:41
Scott, correct me if I'm wrong, but when this launch wasn't the
27:44
Big 10 owned 51%, Fox owned 49% because in one of your articles
27:49
last week, you mentioned that Fox now owns 61%.
27:53
You know, kind of the loopholes or, or just the maturations of
27:56
how we got to that point because that was always my belief that,
27:58
well, at least the Big 10 owns a majority share of the Big 10
28:01
network. Yeah, in the very beginning, the
28:04
Big 10 owned 51% and Fox owned 49%, which allowed the Big 10 to
28:09
kind of have a controlling, controlling leverage over the
28:13
network. Well, about three to four years
28:15
and it was right around 2010 or 11, I can't remember cheer they,
28:19
they flipped the equity so when 5149 in favor of Fox and they
28:24
paid this pretty significant money.
28:26
Well during the COVID year and all the schools were hurting
28:30
financially, Fox then bought 10 more percent equity.
28:35
So and so that gave everybody a pretty, pretty good shot in the
28:38
arm, even though some schools had to still borrow $50 million
28:42
from their central fund. But most of them don't really
28:46
helped out. So yeah, that's why it's now 61
28:49
to 39% in favor of Fox on PTN. I saw that note in your article
28:55
talking about the potential, what was looking like Ohio
28:58
State, Texas being a Sunday game and Texas saying no to that.
29:03
Well, why do we have to be robbed of everything as sports
29:05
fans? I mean, the stand alone window
29:06
with that game at minimum is going to be a preseason top five
29:09
game. It's just as football fans
29:11
frustrating. But I guess we just have to
29:12
accept it, right Doc? That's the new way of the world.
29:15
Just accept it. Not we anything we can do it.
29:17
It comes down to the powers of B.
29:19
Yeah, it would have been, it would have been fun switching
29:21
back and forth between that and Notre Dame, Miami, I I think.
29:26
But you know, that's that's what happens to these days.
29:28
You know, the the schools have veto power, which is
29:31
understandable to move a day. It's not so much you can't move,
29:35
you can't determine the time, but you can determine the day.
29:38
And and I know that Texas was kind of being flip it.
29:41
And, you know, Chris Del Conte said, well, I got to go to
29:45
church that day or something like that.
29:47
Come on, you know, you can go to church in Columbus.
29:49
It's they've got some great cathedrals there.
29:52
But, you know, it's just kind of funny that that was what ended
29:56
up not happening. So, you know, but for the people
29:59
of Ohio State, you know, they they've been really upset.
30:01
Their last six games of the regular season last year, all
30:04
were at noon and five of them were on Big Noon.
30:08
And some of it was Ohio State Fox's fault.
30:11
Some of it was just bad luck. But but I mean, they're really
30:14
trying to to get out of that, you know, that that wave there
30:18
and and, and, you know, then the Big 10 kind of stepped in in the
30:22
next two weeks and put them once and prime time on Peacock
30:25
against Ohio and then another in the midday.
30:28
I think it was good Grambling and I'd expect a few others to
30:31
move around this. The balance throughout the
30:33
season is a lot better than it was last year.
30:36
So, but yeah, it would have been great to see that one in prime
30:39
time on a Sunday night. I know Fox would have wanted
30:42
that too. Doc, I'm guessing you would love
30:44
to be in the room either at Fox, NBC or CBS.
30:47
The, the big 10 TV draft really is fascinating.
30:51
It's something that, you know, I, I guess I don't wasn't even
30:53
aware that this takes place until you started talking about
30:57
it within the last couple of years.
30:59
But it really is something to behold just to see kind of the
31:03
the chess, the chess board and the pieces, all these those
31:07
networks are moving to try and, you know, obtain the best game
31:10
in their slots on their networks.
31:13
Yeah, it was a lot of fun to report that and talk to each of
31:15
the different networks because they all come from different
31:17
perspectives and and they all have different factors.
31:20
I mean, whether it's their their predetermined time slot and then
31:24
the external things. I mean, like NBC has to, you
31:27
know, consider things like Notre Dame football and when when it
31:31
is want to put Notre Dame in primetime.
31:32
You know, Fox has the reason why there is a drop in in Friday
31:36
games is they decided to go heavy with the baseball playoffs
31:40
the final two Fridays in in October rather than scheduling
31:43
college football. And and you got to take that
31:46
into consideration and and then you got to look at the landscape
31:49
and OK, what big game is going on on the SEC this night?
31:53
Maybe for NBC, we punch a little bit or maybe we ramp it up, you
31:57
know, so I, I think, you know, everything that they do is, is
32:00
really interesting to me. And, and they all were pretty
32:03
universal on how they approached it and said, you know, they
32:06
started really examining the schedules back as soon as they
32:09
were announced back in December and started having war games.
32:14
They'd have, you know, different groups play Fox and CBS while
32:19
NBC was sitting in here trying to get in their heads, trying to
32:22
figure out exactly what the, you know, each network wanted to do
32:26
and what their strategies were. And, and that way they can
32:28
really, really fit well. And you know, one of the things
32:31
kind of left on the cutting room floor was I asked them
32:34
specifically did does do you guys ever get like, you know,
32:39
like a fantasy football draft? You ever say yes, you know, I
32:42
can't believe it fell to us or, or, or no, you know, oh man, you
32:46
know, you got me right. One pick earlier.
32:48
And they're like, yes, but we'll never tell you which one.
32:52
Maybe maybe in a few years if we're revisiting it.
32:54
But you know, that really was fascinating because there are
32:57
times when they everything you want to do it, it's just one
33:00
step out of your control or or falls right to you.
33:03
It's that that also is fascinating to me.
33:06
You also wrote last week, and what was a busy week for you,
33:09
Doc, about the new and improved Iowa offense.
33:11
At least that's the hope with Mark Garnowski taking over Doc.
33:15
It just comes into my mind so often when Garnowski comes up,
33:18
he wasn't in the portal yet, yet you brought up his name as the
33:21
kind of guy, if he would enter the portal, that's who Iowa
33:24
needs. And then it happens very quickly
33:26
that it all came together. It just feels like Doc would
33:28
talk. Welcome to you.
33:29
This is about as close as a perfect relationship as I was
33:33
going to find, at least in the current structure at the
33:34
quarterback position. Yeah, right place, right time
33:38
right now. I mean, I think he is he's
33:41
perfect for what Iowa wants to do.
33:43
He's he can make every throw. And you know, Lester wants to go
33:47
deep more often than they did because they didn't have anybody
33:49
could do it. And he's accurate.
33:52
He's tough. He's physically could do all
33:54
those things and, and, and provide leadership and, and
33:57
swagger. And you know, I, I mean, they've
33:59
had various players be able to do some of that.
34:02
I mean, I think Spencer had a lot of swagger and, and, but he
34:05
just wasn't really accurate enough and couldn't run and, and
34:08
Mark can run. He's very good running
34:10
quarterback. He has the 37 run machine
34:12
touchdowns and you know, and as well as what, 90 some odd, I
34:16
think, well, maybe more of that passing touchdown.
34:19
So you've got the right quarterback for your system and
34:22
can do everything. And then you throw on the two of
34:25
the best returning lineman in the country and Logan Jones and
34:29
Jennings dunker and some other pieces.
34:31
And, and this really looks like a a team that can take a major
34:35
step forward as it did last year.
34:36
You know, they went from 15.4 points per game to 27 seven.
34:40
And so that was a pretty big jump.
34:43
And I, I think they're more than capable of making it.
34:45
You know, maybe they'll fall down a little bit in the running
34:48
game because you don't have Caleb Johnson, but having a
34:50
quarterback like Mark Gronowski will more than make up for it.
34:53
And, you know, wouldn't be surprised if they nudge this
34:56
over not just over 30 points a game.
34:58
And you know, maybe they maybe they even get in the
35:01
neighborhood of the high three hundreds, maybe even cross the
35:03
400 barrier and yards per game. And if they can do that, then
35:06
this, this will be a very potent offense.
35:09
Did Tony Petiti take you up on your offer to to talk as you put
35:12
out there last week? I'm surprised we haven't heard
35:15
anything from the conference talk.
35:17
Maybe it's apparent that that's what they want and we'll just
35:19
let the SEC be be seen as the bad guy in all of this.
35:23
And Sankey's willing to play that role.
35:25
He's doing a very good job of it because everybody is pissed off
35:28
at him for the most part. But nothing for Petiti as of
35:32
yet, right? No, I even had a long
35:35
conversation on Friday night because I kept pressing it, You
35:38
know that. Hey, everybody else is talking
35:41
about you guys. You're the ones that are now
35:43
looking like the bad guy because he introduced this rule, you
35:46
know, this structure for the College Football Playoff.
35:49
You know, the four automatics for them in the SEC 2 for the
35:53
Big 12 and ACC. And I'm, I'm actually writing
35:56
something about that as you know, as we speak, although I
35:59
stopped typing, you know, for the few minutes when I'm on the
36:01
phone. But but a lot of that, not the
36:06
the numbers really won't change that much for the Big 10,
36:08
whether they go to four or they go to open.
36:11
But they they have a there's a significant amount of distrust
36:14
on the Big 10 for the selection committee and the way it's kind
36:17
of been treated in the past. And it goes back to, you know,
36:20
the example I'm using is 2018 and this is a bowl game of all
36:24
things. But when Penn State got stacked
36:28
behind Florida and LSU and and Florida played two group 2 FCS
36:33
opponents and then two other opponents in the non conference
36:36
that didn't have winning records.
36:37
And Penn State plays ACC divisional champ and 11 and two
36:41
team and then plays a nine game league schedule, you know, plays
36:45
three teams ranked in the top ten and and still falls behind,
36:49
has the same record. And it's just like, well, what
36:51
are we doing for all of this? You know, we got a nine game
36:53
schedule, we bumped all this stuff up and yet here we are.
36:56
So that's kind of where the roots of the distrust lie with
36:59
with the selection committee. And that's kind of why they want
37:02
to take take out some of the subjectivity, I guess you could
37:05
say, and and make it just uniform that way.
37:08
And we'll see if if they get something similar to that.
37:12
I mean, right now that, you know, all the momentum's on a
37:14
511, but that favors the SEC more than anybody else.
37:19
I mean, the Big 12 would have only gotten one team last year.
37:23
If that would have happened, they would have at least gotten
37:24
2 with this philosophy. And the, the SEC traditionally,
37:28
you know, even though it plays only 8 league games and a lot of
37:31
times, in fact, looking at it this year, they only have three
37:36
teams play 10 power 5 opponents, power 4 opponents only three out
37:41
of their 16. And in the Big 10, it's what,
37:44
12? But the SEC somehow says it's
37:48
got a better strength of schedule.
37:50
And so that that's something that they, they're really
37:52
combating And, and so we'll see what happens.
37:54
I think the Big 10 just wants to be a little bit quiet.
37:57
I I disagree with that, but that's their prerogative that
38:00
say and do what they want. Doc, good stuff.
38:02
We will look for that piece that you're typing as we well as we
38:06
spoke, as you said, you put it on the back burner.
38:08
But back to work Doc Thanks for doing this for us.
38:11
We will read you as we always do with the Athletic.
38:13
Thank you, Scott Dockerman. All right.
38:15
Thanks guys. Appreciate it you.
38:17
Do the same Scott Dockerman as we check in on a variety of
38:20
topics. Take your time out, come back,
38:22
finish our #1 Miller and Condon, Iowa Sports Radio Network, our
38:29
final couple of minutes, first hour of the program.
38:32
Miller in Condon with you until 2:00.
38:34
The drive coming up, Heather and Lucas will be with you from 2:00
38:39
until 5:00. Well, college football.
38:41
Have you studied? Did you get into any of the
38:43
totals from over the weekend that were released?
38:46
Do you have wind totals? No, no.
38:48
I mean, they've been out there at some other.
38:49
Books, right? Yeah, Circa put theirs out.
38:51
I started to, you know, take it a little dabble into some of
38:54
them just killing some. It was a weird weekend.
38:57
It was a weird weekend. I watched 1 baseball game after
39:00
another. But kind of gives you affords
39:03
you an opportunity to maybe not concentrate quite as much on the
39:06
television screen. So just trying to find some
39:09
stuff to bet. Somebody called us during the
39:10
break and said your Clemson ticket to the prices going the
39:13
other. Way.
39:14
Caesar's 12:50 apparently 15 to one at Draft Kings.
39:18
We got it. NI got 22.
39:20
What'd you get, 2020? Five.
39:22
It was 20 something. Yeah.
39:24
So go Tigers. Go Tigers.
39:26
We're Clemson fans and we'll get the Battle of Death Valley to
39:29
begin the season. LSU, Clemson.
39:31
That's going to be great it. Is I can't believe we're not
39:33
getting Texas, Ohio State at night on Sunday night, right?
39:36
I mean, come on, do what's best for the sport.
39:38
No, they don't. I know.
39:39
Yeah, I know. Because, well, you know who
39:42
Texas has coming up after. That it's got to be nobody
39:45
because the, the Big Noon kickoff is well, they're,
39:48
they're ESPN, though. Well, who do they have?
39:50
So Texas, after that road trip to Columbus, they come home and
39:54
they didn't want a short week. No, no, no.
39:56
Because here comes to town. Jacksonville State.
39:59
San Jose State, the Spartans make their way to Austin and yet
40:03
can't have a short week. We'll see it because then after
40:07
that, here's the gauntlet that the Longhorns, then after that,
40:09
that. Give it to me.
40:10
After San Jose State invades, here come the miners out of
40:14
Utah. And you think that's tough?
40:16
I do. Well, here come the Bearcats
40:17
with AK. That's right, Sam Houston State
40:20
comes to town before a bye week. And then Oklahoma.
40:23
No, I'm still not. There still not there.
40:26
They do go to Florida before the match up in the Cotton Bowl
40:28
against Oklahoma. Now, the SEC schedule is
40:31
daunting, to be fair. And then when they get into it,
40:34
yeah. At Florida, Oklahoma, at
40:38
Kentucky, at Mississippi State, Vandy at Georgia, Arkansas A&M.
40:43
Yeah, there's a. Pretty soft metal in there
40:45
though, Trent. Well.
40:46
You can get some wins there under Texas.
40:51
Are they not favoured to win at all?
40:53
If they're not, they're first, they're right up there.
40:55
Second or third choice. I'll believe it when I see it.
40:59
Maybe we'll see it this year. We will find out.
41:01
We'll talk baseball when we come back.
41:04
Matt Snyder, CBSSports.com and Trent and I will talk Major
41:09
League Baseball. Bussy still to come on Iowa
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State, Miller and Condon, Iowa Sports Radio Network.