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• Sam: Like no ice, just just warm straight up off the shelf in these like really tiny cups. And that was all the food that they provided. And they tried to give me a sign up to some kind of multi-level marketing scheme, also known as a pyramid. Well hi everyone and welcome back to Pile of Mates. My name is Sam De Lorenzo and I worked in the cinema industry for 12 years and I wasn't really allowed to talk about movies then. Now I can. So, along for the journey today, of course, is my regular host here, Corey Middleton. Corey: Good day, guys. Sam: And Pacco Paxton. Daniel (Pacco): Hey, how's it going? Sam: today we are talking about The wonderful movie that we know as Rat Race. Two thousand and one. Fabulous film. My choice. a little bit of history on this one. I had not seen this one until very recently. My fiancee was scrolling through, it's like, Rat Race, I love that movie as a kid. and she said to me was, I wonder if it holds up well. She hadn't seen it in many, many years. And we thought, we'll chuck it on, thinking it was going to be terrible. And we loved it. I had a fantastic time. And since then I reckon I looked on Letterboxd, we have watched this. at least once or twice a year since then, every year for the past three years. It's it's on it's a pretty high rotation for us, and we're you know, we we we watch a lot of movies and we probably rewatch a lot of movies, but for me, I just really had a good time. I still, even last night, watched it, had an absolute cackle again. so let's go through and before we jump into it, let's just recap Rat Race. if anyone didn't know. Rat Race is a 2001 ensemble comedy Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: from director Jerry Z. Zucker. It's like a loose remake of the 1963 classic. It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world. The setup is an eccentric Las Vegas casino owner, Donald Sinclair, played by the lovable John Cleese, plants six special tokens in his slot machines, and the winners are told that there's a $2 million cash prize sitting in a locker at a train station in Silver City, New Mexico. First one to get there, keeps it all, no rules. let's be honest here, it's essentially the amazing race in a movie, right? We're we're we got that right? Yeah. So what did you guys think? Daniel (Pacco): Correct. Sam: I would love to know some thoughts. Just Daniel (Pacco): First impressions. Yeah. Silly, fun, dumb, adventurous movie. People run into Silver City for what do you call it? Two million dollars. Yeah. Sam: Two million cold hard cash. Daniel (Pacco): Now I've got a question for you guys. Now this is the Sam: Mm-hmm. Daniel (Pacco): first time I've seen this movie and now the whole movie was based on like bets and gambling and all that. When you watched it the first time, did you think someone was gonna win? Like did you have bets on anybody? 'Cause personally I thought it was Mr. Bean. I thought he was gonna w go for the grand prize. Sam: Yes. Could I don't think I ever placed like a bet in my head on I had comments on different things, but I probably didn't think Mr. Beam was gonna win, especially when he fell asleep at the start. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Corey: It was sort of like the outsider. I wasn't expecting Sam: Yeah. Corey: him to win at all. And yeah, I was thinking like one Sam: Yeah. Corey: of the main characters, even though they're all it's hard to sort of say a main character, but I was thinking the the girl and the guy, the new girlfriend, boyfriend couple. Yeah. Sam: of the Nick Schaeffer and Tracy. Crazy Tracy. That's right, I got I got a nice list here for you. So okay, let's just Corey: Yes. I don't remember their names. Daniel (Pacco): Well. Sam: let's go through the round table of the Over the was it eight, nine people, the the couples there. So obviously we have Donald and his billionaires, and they're they're a great time. And of course the lawyer who has no personality, don't forget him. then we have Nick Schaefer, who meets the lovely Tracy, who is, you know, at first like the most normal person you'll ever meet, but took really cool pilot. but then she kind of just like to be honest here, she goes like really, really crazy, right? Like batshit insane crazy. And then, and I'm gonna say his name wrong, even though I'm Italian, we have and Rico Polini, played by Rowan Atkinson, of course, or as Paco would call him, Mr. Bean. And then we have Duane and Blaine, Cody, played by Seth Green and Vince. I can't even say this guy's name. What are you going to call him Vince? The skiing Daniel (Pacco): Mm-hmm. Sam: brothers there. And then we have Owen Templeton, who is the referee, played by Cuba Gooding Jr. And Again, they're the worst referee call ever somehow bans everyone and and everyone from the from the coin toss. So great times there. And then we have some long lost mother and daughter, Meryl and Vera. and they're meeting for the first time and they're a bit unsure what they're finding here. and of course, sorry, the Pear family, which is John Levitz and Kathy Nedjimi, I kinda stuff up that name there. But just I find that family the funniest. And I'm not gonna name anyone, but The when we watched it this time, Tegan and I walked out and we're like, That's that's this person, what we know. We're like, That's him. Yep. That's him. Y everyone everyone knows everyone Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: knows the dad from the pair family. But so who who Daniel (Pacco): No comment there. Corey: Family kind of annoyed me. Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I honestly just felt so for the dad in that he he just wanted that two million dollar. He could have won it, but that my god. Sam: I know. I don't wanna work at Home Depot. I feel like I quote this movie. There are some really funny lines, but there are so many. As I watch this movie, I'll just keep saying the same quotes of I just find it like, look, Adrifta, let's kill him. I just is they just keep playing in my head. I don't know why. There's just so many stupid lines in this movie, but I love it. Daniel (Pacco): Plenty. Plenty. Sam: So Corey, had you se you'd seen this one, right? Corey: Yeah, I've seen it twice before. So way back Sam: Yeah. Corey: when I was a kid and then probably about two months ago. So it was funny. Yeah, originally like two months ago, I was like the trailer came up, I was like, man, this looks great, let's watch it. All sarcast as well. Like all character actors that Anita and I love. And Anita's just like, nah, it looks stupid, not watching it. And then Sam: Yeah. Corey: few days later she she falls in and she she watches it and yeah, we we both had a good time. So Sam: Yeah. Yeah. It feels like something that shouldn't age well but does anyway. It's still kinda funny. Corey: Mm. Sam: Yeah. So Packer, what was your so you you'd never seen it for the first time. I thought you would think this was the funniest thing ever, but you you're sort of sitting in the middle? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, I jeez. I don't know, I was gonna leave the ratings to the very end, but nah look, it's Yeah, we won't spoil the ratings, but nah, I I Sam: I wouldn't have to go it's not don't have to spoil the ratings yet, just you know you Daniel (Pacco): personally I thought the intro, like, was it just kept going. You know what I mean? Like I'm yeah. Sam: Yeah. the yeah. I sorry. Daniel (Pacco): I yeah, I was just gonna say, like, when you watch a movie from let's say early nineties, eighties and you'll get the intro with all the credits at the start, but Yes, it was in the thousands and you just think, Come on, how long is this gonna go for? Sam: It it did kind of spoil the movie a little bit too. I kinda I didn't realise I was thinking about that, but it it very much do you feel like it kind of showed the plot of the film in that kind of my other note here was it's do you guys remember the animated ABC kids show Angela Anaconda? That's the style, and I was like, how do you show it? It's just Daniel (Pacco): You're gonna bring that up because I had all my notes. Sam: the Angela Anaconda style, and it kind of bridges into the Vegas opening scene. But I love that. How cool is that? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, I love the I love the transition how it slowly went into that. I thought it was pretty cool. It was well done then. So yeah, yeah. Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. God how would you not want that to last forever, Paco? Daniel (Pacco): Come on mate. It just it just went a bit too long for my liking. I was like, come on, can we just start the movie? But yeah, Sam: You just like Daniel (Pacco): but speaking of start of the movie, what was the first Sam: Mm. Daniel (Pacco): line? sorry, I thought you were a a woman. I am a woman. I know where this is going. Yeah, it's one of those movies, Sam: Ha y dear, yeah. yes this Daniel (Pacco): the first line you just get the tone for the movie. But personally I thought it would've Sam: yes. It's kind Daniel (Pacco): gonna be like another onion movie, but It had a bit more motive compared to onion movies. Sorry, Cory, but Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. Definitely did. Sam: Yeah. Yes. I think also Corey: No, none taken. It definitely had a stronger narrative, yeah, throughout. Sam: but because yeah, compared to the Onion movie, I would definitely say this is a stronger a stronger narrative overall. And also it just I don't know. I I think I'm laughing with this film more. it's like the cringiness of you're watching and you can't look away from a lot of these scenes where you're like, Daniel (Pacco): Mm. Sam: no, they're gonna stuff up. dear. It's like y you just you can't wa you can't watch. Like there was the first scene with Nick where he is you know she's just dead pen talking about the the movies that he's rented. you watched you know yeah was it Deep Slots 9 or something like that? Daniel (Pacco): fuck Jesus. Sam: And just and this and watched it in front of you you started 10 minutes of this movie and then you went back to Deep Thoughts 9 Daniel (Pacco): Now I've been to many hotels. I never recall getting those extra fees in those things. So have have you guys been caught out or Sam: Yeah, right. to to Jo to quote Joey Tribiani, I was told the name of the movie would not appear on the bill. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: Please tell me you guys have watched Friends, right? I feel like every time we have these podcasts I find you haven't watched an iconic TV series. Daniel (Pacco): I still feel behind. On the last one you told us to watch community, I slacked on that, so Corey: Yeah, I totally forgot about that one too. Sorry. Daniel (Pacco): Awesome. Sam: god, you guys are disappointing. Daniel (Pacco): sh we should just end this podcast. man. That's Sam: That's it. I'm outta here. That's right. I'll continue to check in with you guys until you watch community. Okay, but back to rat race here. So We meet Nick and I feel like this is a a like an early two thousand trope that like this is the guy that's like the loser because he doesn't drink, he doesn't party at the bachelor party. But Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: I'm gonna be honest here, like I don't know, I don't mind a drink or two. But like, man, to get a good like he get he gets away early, he's like, you know, like to to get a nice fresh morning, not feel too bad. I hate being bullied into having a big night. Don't you guys? No? This is yeah Daniel (Pacco): I think we're over the age of ear pressuring. Didn't you make me drink a lot over the years? Come on man, I swear I got brain damage from that. Sam: Yeah, well this is true. That's okay, well I might have pre impression you were drinking, but I would you know I always responsibly drank myself, so there we go. It's your own fault for going over the limit then, Paco. Ha ha ha. Daniel (Pacco): We'll save that for you go. Corey: I felt like he was at sorry, I felt like Sam: Sorry? Corey: he was at the age where he's sort of a bit too old to party all night as well. Like he's sort of Sam: Yeah. He's like, dear. Corey: Yeah, like at our age. And he seemed like not like the boring guy, but just more responsible and he's like, you know, he's got his career path, he knows what he wants to do, he doesn't want anything to fall back on him later if he progresses Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Corey: and all that. Sam: Mm. Daniel (Pacco): Didn't he have the job Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): in law as well? So he couldn't really do these risky sort of things? Or am I watching the wrong movie? Corey: Something like that, yeah. Sam: Yeah, so I I think he yeah, he very much had a a generic you know generic job in in corporate corporate America. No, you know, some financey kind of spreadsheets, I'm sure he does something there. You know, where's a suit to work, goes to a big office building. Pretty much they're all the same, right? Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah, well. Yeah. Sam: So, all of our collective casts, they get in a room, they they find these magic little tokens, says, go to the concierge desk, come to a free buffet lunch, and you'll get you know, an offer of a lifetime. I feel like personally, if I had gotten this, I would be like, my god, they're gonna pitch me a marketing scheme again, a bloody pyramid scheme, for sure. That's what I would be going into this thing. If if that do you guys feel the same? You you'd just completely distrust anything if it was a opportunity of a lifetime? Corey: mean free buffet, so you know, you're gonna score something there and yeah. Sam: yeah, I'll I'll definitely mm. Corey: And then you can just bug her off afterwards if you don't like what they've gotta say to you. Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I don't know, you never had free Sam: I once Daniel (Pacco): food and being scammed at the same time. Like I mean it happens. Sam: Absolutely. I I was once taken I I was offered by someone that I worked with. He's like, I've got like a a business opportunity to come along to. and I was like, okay, it's a bit weird, like I don't really have any money and you know, I work minimum wage at this job, but sure I'll you know, he's like, there'd be some food that's like, sure, okay, I came along and they just served like warm LA ice cola Like no ice, just just warm straight up off the shelf in these like really tiny cups. And that was all the food that they provided. And they tried to give me a sign up to some kind of multi-level marketing scheme, also known as a pyramid. I did not sign up. Shocking, I know. Corey: Like if the food was better I would have signed up. Sam: Exactly. You know, if you really want to sign people up to a multi-level marketing scheme slash pyramid scheme, you need to provide proper food and drink options. Otherwise people are just not gonna listen to you, not gonna take you seriously. So Corey: Yep. Cold drinks, not warm drinks. Sam: Exactly, exactly. Cold LA Ice. So Mr Donald Sinclair he provides the full buffet. He's very rich, so he has everything nice and he's like, Hey guys, basically let's play the amazing race. Come to this go to this town here and we'll see how you go. There are no rules. Which I mean I was I feel like I was waiting for him to be like, I'm just joking, there are plenty of rules, please, you know, abide by federal law or something. But no, he he just said there are no Daniel (Pacco): Mm. Sam: rules. So you know, they can be purging, killing each other. And technically there's no rules, right? Daniel (Pacco): Well, the rule is that there's no rules, so just to clarify there, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, Sam: Exactly. Exactly. It's very important. Daniel (Pacco): I don't know, let's just say a billion dollar casino person got us three to say, look, there's two million dollars cash in some outskirt city of Darwin would you go? Like, I mean, two million bucks, two million bucks, like Sam: yeah. I mean I think I'd just rather play the Amazing Race. That sounds like a lot of fun. But I mean Darwin, yeah, it's a fair while. How many I guess Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, well I mean. Sam: the odds are what one in eight did they say? So yeah, I probably I'd probably take a one in eight chance at at two million dollars. Yeah, it's pretty good odds. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, yeah. Would a minor flight there too, if no one damages the airport. Sam: Yeah. I mean and to be fair, you know, when he says it there are no rules, but I mean also if there are no rules, there was no rule on them splitting the money, so why not, you know, I'd t I'd take a one eighth of a of two million dollars, which I think is a I think it was about two hundred and eighty grand or something like that. Did the I did the quick maths there. So I mean, you don't you know, it doesn't have to be all murder and gore to be no rules. If there are no Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Well look back then. Corey: Sure. Daniel (Pacco): I was just gonna Hugo, Hugo. Corey: I'm sure if Sorry. I'm sure if yeah, w everyone agreed to split it, there's gonna be someone who gets it and just runs off with it or takes it for themselves and lies. There's always one. Sam: It's always like Yeah. Yeah, people are selfishly the worst. I love how no one at st at first sight, they don't just bolt for the door. No one really takes it seriously. They're Daniel (Pacco): Mm-hmm. Sam: like, like they're kind of processing it in their head and it's like, d do we go? I guess. I mean I'm on holiday. It sounds like a lot of effort. Like there's, you know, they're like dangling money in front of them and they're like, we'll see. Maybe. Yeah. Would you Daniel (Pacco): Just Yeah, and I I forgot the name I was just gonna say I forgot the name of the guy who had the tongue piercing, but he's just at the table, he's like Yeah, yeah. Sam: the ton the guy with the tongue here thing. Yeah. I can't I for some reason I couldn't stand him. Like I know he's funny, I know his brother's funny, but I just can't stand and I I I know he's written that way, and I know it's supposed to be funny, and I know it is funny, but it still just annoyed me enough that like I think it's that I don't like seeing like not say injuries, but just like people uncomfortable and he was clearly uncomfortable the whole time. It just drove me so nuts. And it still does, but I mean I still love the movie. Daniel (Pacco): look, if we're gonna talk about things that frustrated us, though I I agree, those two brothers just together, just how can you live that long in life and still be alive? I mean just like the Yeah, or the cast Sam: I know. Let's just fall down the stairs. I mean they're con artists, I guess, who's trying to con them out of money. Daniel (Pacco): Well y yeah. But I mean a lot of the stuff it's just like just stupid. personally I just found those guys were just frustrating or just annoying in the whole lot. But that's just me, man. Sam: Yeah. Hmm. Yeah, yeah absolutely. So they eventually all make it. I love I was also thinking about this and for some reason I don't know why this keeps coming up in our podcast, but the idea of shutting down an airport. So this was filmed so this was so this was so released in I wrote it down in August 2001. So airport security, very different. Changes in about a month or two very quickly. But yeah, August two thousand and one. but it the way I was thinking about it is that you the way you could not say in an airport, the guy's like, Well, if we're not flying out, no one is is like if you said that now you would be arrested and locked up for years. You're not walking out of an airport. But then they decide to just drive up to like a little sensor and they're like, look, so they're trying to wreck the the airport. Again, this the timestamp of this movie really changes everything. Daniel (Pacco): I I did read a few of the comments saying that this movie was legit released a month before the whole you know, nine eleven and you're just thinking, shit, shit. Sam: Yeah, I know. Sometimes yeah, just the way Daniel (Pacco): Just yeah, you like you said, you wouldn't talk or even do that stuff now. You can't even say bomb on an airplane and laugh it off. Yeah. Yeah, I know, right. Like it's it's a serious crime. Sam: I know. I know. Yeah, it's it's not a joke anymore. Yeah, it's a real it's a real choke. Actually, do you guys want to know something quite funny? Just a side note, talking about aeroplanes. My sister is an An air hostess, right? And the other day I got we sharing this we have a di a Disney Plus account and she shares my has my Disney Plus account and she's like, can I log in? It's not working. I was like, here's the password, XYZ. And I just out of curious, I'm like, what are you watching by you know, just out of curiosity? She says, Air crash investigations. She's an air hoster. I was like, that's the weirdest thing to watch. It's like, yeah, but you know, it's fun. my god. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, okay. Corey: Freak you out. Sam: Yes. I that's what I thought. I would be like, my god, like why? Daniel (Pacco): Maybe maybe it will make your job more interesting. I I don't know. Man, that's something. Sam: I know, I don't know, but like yeah. So that's yeah, that's my sister for you. So bit crazy. Anyway, love her. Moving on. So the airport's shut down, except for helicopters. So that's how Nick meets Tracy. I must say, I couldn't get if he was trying to be funny when he's sort of making the joke about like, but can can females be pilots? I was waiting like a punchline. I mean I he says I thought of something funny, but he kind of just said it and it's like this like i is he actually qu I mean like I know it's two thousand and one but Daniel (Pacco): Roll code. Sam: like you know I I'm sure they could be pilots at that point, right? Daniel (Pacco): I didn't do my research there. Can't really comment on that. What about you, Sam: Ha ha ha. Daniel (Pacco): Corey? Corey: I I think it was being serious and it was sort of like, you know, Sam: Ha ha ha. Corey: is is there actually pilots, you know, like female pilots out there? Sam: Can they vote too? Crazy. Wow. Daniel (Pacco): They can. But he did redeem Sam: I know, right? What have thoughts? Can they even own property? Daniel (Pacco): himself. Ten minutes later he came up with some he got there. And he pulled a smooth line while he was at it. So like you said, got that flight. Sam: He got there. He got there. He got there. Hmm. Yeah, exactly right. And she's totally fine, because she's totally normal at this point of the movie. It's only once she finds her boyfriend that things go a little bit crazy. I think she's I think Daniel (Pacco): How many laws did they break with that helicopter? Sam: she mentioned about a hundred and fifty laws roughly. also there's just a I don't even know why I made that note. I I I at some point there is a joke about don't not pissing off the wife, but I'm no I have no memory of this now. I made the note, but I feel like this is a lot of like it just a lot of like don't piss off the wife in these movies lately, but I've no idea where it's Daniel (Pacco): I don't think he was really pissing off the wife. I think the wife just had full control over him if we're talking about Randy over here. Again, I I Sam: Yeah. poor Randy. Daniel (Pacco): swear he would have won if his family didn't hold him back. When he did reveal to his family there's two million dollars in this city and they all just went my god. I Sam: Hell yeah, look. We can we can go through look, let's let's go through let's go through Randy's family and and their story because first of all, you know, they're they're in for a holiday and I think Randy just wants to gamble his life away. except he's brought them under the pretense of David Copperfield. Sorry. and you know, but I honestly I think Randy has the the what's the family has the best moment in the movie for me. Well two best moments. One is the the shitting outside of the the car while it's still moving. Dad I hate you so much. that just gets me and then and the three things actually no they're the Barbie Museum but just the the short the just the the drop just Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: Just Himmler Bappi and then and then them like clearly very Jewish family been like, yes, we're gonna go visit our our our our white friends, our family, our white family, yes, the the Himmlers, the Himmlers or something. Just the the trying to get out. But like I love that they fully went inside the Nazi museum and it was only once they started talking they're like, we better get out of here. This is a bit much here. And then suddenly Hitler's car is out the back and he's like leaping. And then they're driving Hitler's car away. Of course. And then there's Hitler's Harmonica, which has a great payoff of Chekhov's gun type vibes in finding it at the very end of the film, but we'll talk about that later. But The the the crash of the world into the World War II veterans where he's burnt his tongue so he's like and yeah, got the the kind of the Hitler impression and he's got the lipstick on it and he's like, and he's like waving. And Daniel (Pacco): slamming the thing. Sam: still just makes me laugh. And my my review of this film the first time was just more Nazis than I expected because there's just a lot going on there. And they just still funny. And then they're driving Kitler's car and it just crashes everywhere. Ugh. Hilarious stuff for me. That was I I think honestly that's what made me laugh the hardest of the whole film is that crashing into the World War II veterans parade and them just like condemning him and getting thrown at him. He's like, no, what I doing? Daniel (Pacco): Get inspired out and everything. Sam: Because he does have a little bit of a Hitler vibe to him with the with the mustache going on and everything. It was yeah. Daniel (Pacco): with the lipstick going on, yeah. We're here. Sam: which is beautiful stuff. Daniel (Pacco): I'm starting to see a a trend in the early thousands movies, you know, it's either terrorists or Nazis. is anyone picking that up? Yeah. I mean Yeah. Sam: Terrorists on yeah. Yeah, pretty much. That's how that's just make fun of the bad guys basically. Just wait till we watch Team America, you really love that one. Yeah, Daniel (Pacco): It's been a while. Sam: yeah, that's on the put on the list on the well far on the list. You know one thing Daniel (Pacco): Hey. Sam: I was thinking about though? is that smartphones would kinda ruin this movie. Like if this movie was made now, smart like there'd be no like they would just, you know, put the GPS in, the trains are trade the train. Like they would just smartphones would just ruin this. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, not five point four miles down this road, one point two up this hill. Sam: Yes. yes, the the jeep the Kathy Bates cameo there of the squirrel. Should have bought squirrel. Would you buy a squirrel? Daniel (Pacco): I was wondering if you picked that up. I think I'd rather a raccoon, but squirrels are cute. gee. If you're gonna talk about favorite scenes though, it's just Mr. Bean just stopping in the middle of the airport and just was it airport or train station and just snoozing. was that the lobby? Yeah. Yeah. he just reminded me of Abe Simpson. Well you know, when he used to just yell and then just fall asleep while stared at me. It's just a thing. Sam: No that no that was just the just the hotel lobby. Didn't get out of the hotel lobby. Narcolepsy, just straight away. Yeah. I I I really want the I want the enthusiasm of of Mr. B or Rowan Atkinson's character in this movie. Honestly. He's like, it's a race, it's a race, I hope I win. He's just so happy. And pasta is good, carbohydrates is good. I think that's every time we cook pasta in my home, you know, one of us all ticking around like, haha, pasta is good, carbohydrates is good. It just it's I quote this movie too much in my life to not in you know to not be just constantly loving this film. and then you know he's just Daniel (Pacco): You date him. Sam: it's just how genuine he is, and then Wayne Knight pops up with the heart, he's like, Wanna touch the heart? And they take it out of the packet and drop it, and then the dog steals it. Daniel (Pacco): What's with the barbecue dog on the fence, man? What the hell was that? It was just Sam: Yeah. And and then it like boom boom and then it just goes boob boom boob boom boob boom boob boom. Daniel (Pacco): I ru I look, being only the first time I watched this man, I really wished it just jumped to like the hospital set of putting like a heart in. Like imagine just seeing this heart getting stuffed in full of grass, dirt, toothbars. man. I I w yeah, look, I really wish they just added that just for like what happened, you know. Yeah. Sam: the shot in the hospital. Yeah. I w I wonder what that call was like, you know? 'Cause I I'm gonna be honest. Actually no, what would you all right, put yourself in in Wayne Knight's shoes, you've just somehow lost a human heart. What do you do? Daniel (Pacco): It's completely illegal to even open the Yeah. Sam: Very much so. Daniel (Pacco): I when they were joking about I was saying, Are you fucking kidding me? Like, come on. Sam: Ha ha ha. Daniel (Pacco): You're playing with someone's life here, but yeah, let's joke around it. Whoop, Sam: Ha ha. Daniel (Pacco): no, it's a toffee apple. What the hell, man? My goodness. Jeez. Sam: But yes, how how alright, your way night, you've just lost a heart, what are you doing? Are you owning up to it? Are you changing identities, running away forever? Are you gonna cover it up somehow? What's your What's your plan of attack here? Daniel (Pacco): think I'll just somehow migrate migrate to Cuba at this rate. Like isn't that a huge felony to like one person died, you you're pretty much killing someone else, no What about you, Corey? What are you do what are you what are you like where are you at on this? Corey: I don't know, he he had a bit of a good idea when he was sort of like, if only we had like a like a homeless sort of person that no one knows and we could, you know Yeah, yeah, drifter, that's it. Yep. Yeah, yeah. So, you Sam: look, a drifter, let's kill him. Corey: know, it was sort of on the right path there, I guess. Daniel (Pacco): Kill someone to save someone. Corey: Or do I mean he Sam: Yeah. Corey: could've gotten the dog's heart out and then just put that in the bag. I don't know how big a different size a dog's heart is to a human's, but Sam: Is this before they electrocuted the dog or you know kill kill a dog? That's a that's a big thing man. See Corey: Yeah, yeah, yeah. After they've electrocuted it, so yeah. Sam: I would go with the much more elegant. I would just roll the van and be like, guys, I've been in an accident. my god, I'm so sorry. The the the heart has just been damaged beyond repair. my god, I'm okay, I'm pretty shaken up, but I think I'm okay. You know, really really put on the heart strings there and be my god, but it was so close, this guy just re-rendered me, took off this way. Yeah, god, I couldn't believe it. Luckily there's no cameras around you to see. Hello. Really just Yeah. Sh guys, Daniel (Pacco): God is my witness. Sam: I was just trying to save a guy's life here. I wasn't doing anything suspicious. Daniel (Pacco): Surely there are plenty of hearts out there that this guy can get, no? Cure odd. jeez. But Sam: Hello drifters, anyone? but and then I love that he just like how he got on the train is just like it's just like he I was like wow where did that come from? Daniel (Pacco): Ha yeah, like what the hell? That was just so just Corey: That cracked me up. The first time I saw that, I was like, is he is he gone? Is he like coming back in the rest of the movie or is he like dead dead? Sam: Yeah. And he's all good just trying to steal a baby on the plot on the train. Just Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, ooh, it's so little, you know. That was so man. Sam: I got my hands on it. I think I could that's the cringy but hilarious stuff. Corey: I mean, what kind of parents are like have their baby opposite them, but like Sam: Yeah, look, I'm Corey: the strangers like on the window side? You would put the baby on the window side and then they both fall asleep. So he's like, you know, playing with it and all that. It's bad parenting, really. Sam: Yes. Yeah, look. Yeah, I'm gonna Yeah, Daniel (Pacco): No pun intended. Sam: it's gonna say absolutely Yeah, that's that's absolutely bad parenting. Yeah, that's their own fault here. If they wanted their kid kidnapped, they wouldn't have fallen asleep. So we've talked about Yeah, I know, exactly right, yeah, really Daniel (Pacco): Guess things were different in two thousand and one. Anyway. Sam: Yeah, world's about to change in a month, guys. Get ready. Too too soon. Okay, so We've talked about Nick and Tracy, we've talked about Mr. Bean, also as known as Enrico Bollini. and we talked about the brothers, although we need we need to talk about the brothers and the cow. Because somehow I s every time I watch, I'm like, how did the cow somehow get connected to the body balloon? Somehow. It's just I feel like their journey just really went like up and down here, but the cow just really topped it off. And use the cow to squeeze the milk into the guy's face and that's how they got the key back. Yeah, you that's beautiful writing. Daniel (Pacco): that was yeah, I was just gonna comment on that. There's just over the top I was just like jaw dropping with the whole scene, like what the hell is going on? And you think it doesn't get any worse, the guy just grabs the cow's eye and just into the guy's face. Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Good Jesus mate. Sam: really rem really reminded me of one of our favourite songs by Melissa Cherry that that music video that really really took off and really gave me that kind of vibe. Shoot your love all Daniel (Pacco): shoot your level over. wait, we can't say that. Sam: over me exactly right is a beautiful song about love. Daniel (Pacco): Ooh, do it daddy. Corey: Yeah, I actually we skipped that scene because it was coming up, they're on the car, the brothers on the bonnet, and the cows were going past like they're driving past all the cows and like we hate like animal deaths and stuff and Anita's just like, can we skip this Sam: Yeah. Corey: part? 'Cause she thought from memory it must be another movie we watched where they just hit a cow and like, you know, blood goes everywhere. so we skip Sam: get a cow. Yeah, right. no. Corey: forward a bit to the part where they're in the lake, the cars crashed. Sam: Ha ha. Corey: And then next thing it's like, yeah, the cows tied up hanging onto the hot air balloon. Yeah, it was Sam: It's just mmm. Daniel (Pacco): Well, since you know what happened, did you rewind just to like, Can we confirm it's it's the same movie? Sam: Yeah. No cow no cows were harmed in this. Corey: Yeah, it was a good outcome, so we're sort of like, happy with happy with that. So Sam: Interesting, interesting. Yeah, so you're full and skipping it. Not even just like closing your eyes, you're full and skipping it. What happened to the cinematic experience guys? Corey: Yeah, we didn't want to hit a splat and it yeah. We were just exp like anticipating a splat and gory stuff, so but wrong movie, so I was glad glad it was a happier outcome. Sam: Yeah. Wrong movies, yeah. Yeah. There is there Corey: think that. Sam: is a really handy website called Does the Dog Die? I don't know if you've looked at that one, but it's really good. You pop the movie in and it'll tells you if the dog dies, but it tells you basically if there's any like kind of sad moments with animals. So there you go. Could be a really helpful one for there, Corey. Corey: Yeah, no that's so good because I did hear about that but I forgot what it was called. So yeah, we'll Yeah. Sam: Yeah. Yeah, pretty weird name for it. Does the dog die? So we haven't let's The one look, there's Owen Templeton who is the I I wanna say, look, pretty unmemorable journey for him, apart from he gets chopped you know, he gets gets a taxi driver that's not really happy with him, gets dropped in the middle of the desert, and then he basically hijacks a whole bus full of I Love Lucy impersonators. and my only experience with I Love Lucy is the I think Corey, did we study th an episode of that back in high school? Yeah. Corey: Yeah. I yeah, in year five or year six with Media Clark. Yep. Yeah, well he's he's Lucy and I love L Lucy. We watched a few of them. Sam: Yeah, I do remember that. I I but Yeah There's a lot of that's a lot of I love Lucy there though. I will say I feel like this one was the weaker part of the film. it just yeah, it was funny but I was like, okay, it's the same thing. He's stuck on a bus, but all those Lucy's like whang at the same time, you know, I I think his reactions are pretty justified. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Corey: I didn't get it though, like the what was it? someone was smoking and he's like, Stop smoking So she throws it out the window, flies back into another window onto someone's hair, catches it a light. And Sam: Yes. Corey: then they start whacking her with bags and then chuck a jacket over to Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Corey: diffuse it. But then they Sam: Yeah. As you do. Corey: throw the jacket in the toilet. Was did they throw the Sam: All the time. Corey: wig in as well? Or like Daniel (Pacco): I thought I wasn't sure about nah nah. Sam: Ma yeah, maybe they've Corey: Yeah, 'cause Sam: got some spare wigs going. Yeah. I don't know, just chucking it Corey: surely it would have been distinguished by then. 'Cause it wouldn't have had any air. Sam: Yeah, just I don't know. Yeah, but then they Daniel (Pacco): It's bubbles out of nowhere, really. So Sam: mentioned the toilets out on the fritz after that as well. By the the we can't close the door, I wonder why. Corey: Yeah. Yeah, that was just crazy when the bottle went in and the bubbles went everywhere and yeah, I was like, Sam: dear. Corey: their outfits are gonna be ruins even though they were fine later on, but Sam: Exactly right, exactly. So the movie can happen. And then we have Merrill and Vera, the the mother and daughter. And again, I feel like funny-ish, but I do feel like they're I think their biggest contribution to the film apart like with is the is the rocket ship stuff. sorry, and of course the squirrels. The squirrels, yeah, you should have bought a squirrel. and they're stuck there and they're stuck in the desert, just like Owen was. And then they somehow find a rocket car that they can start by literally pressing one button. Feels like a bad idea there. Breaking the land speed record. Corey: But I did ask how to start it. Sam: This is true. And they're just no one really questioned it. I Corey: Well, I loved when they walk behind well, in front of the the rocket and they're like sort of posing as so it's like they're model girls posing for the rocket. So I was kinda like, it kind of works. Sam: Yes. Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): And then the media crew just go from yeah and all right, back to normal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Checks out. Sam: Uh-huh. Yeah. Well, makes sense. Yeah, that looks all good. They look like they're half dead, but yeah, that sounds good. Yeah. I do love the grid girls, I guess. love that they're when they're right driving the rocket they just knock over that guy's random truck stop and he's like god smite me down it's like like well karma I very much enjoyed that one Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Well didn't he rip off just over sand and the whole place was like covered in sand. Yeah. Three hundred dollars. Sam: Yeah. I mean like you said, you know, supply and demand. I mean you can kinda charge whatever you want and he I mean he threatened with a gun, so that's not great. But you know. Supply and demand now Daniel (Pacco): Well that's it, that's it. Shit. I'm not gonna argue that. Sam: it's all combinates, they all they are they rock up in Silver City. For a brief bit of a r you know running race, everyone's you know, Owen's now a cowboy, he's stolen a horse, and they've got monster trucks and and school buses and you know from the from the the the loony the loony bus and they've somehow got off there and they'll they're just like, alright, just let us off, no worries. And then they but of course Mr. Bean beats him there, but then the stripper and the the lawyer have stolen all the money. They just took off with it. And somehow the cow steals it. 'Cause of course that's a really important part. we I feel like we haven't before we talk about the ending of this film, we haven't really talked about the bets. The crazy it's eccentric billionaires that are just betting a crazy amount of money. Like Daniel (Pacco): Well, didn't one of them bet two million dollars on Enrico and then he just falls asleep? He's Sam: Yes. Daniel (Pacco): like I put two million dollars on him He's just Sam: And I think I I love that that like I was thinking about this that the fact that the the these people are going absolutely crazy over just two million dollars in cash and these guys are just like betting two million dollars like it's a literal chump change and just like the the disparity between this. and these guys are literally risking game gone crazy and like doing their entire life for the same amount of money and just like losing and and just completely disregarding all the dignity. That's I just think it's so funny that that's like the the disparity in just throwing away this cash. Corey: did like too how they kept betting on different things throughout the movie. So like the guy did bring the hooker in and he was like, Sam: Yeah. Yes. Corey: can you like do weird stuff with me? And they were betting how Sam: Yeah. Corey: much it would cost and and then like you later Sam: I know what's it? Corey: cut back to them and like all the the maids are holding on to the the railing and they're betting on who can hold the longest. Daniel (Pacco): I think yeah. Sam: Yes. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. And there was also another Sam: Those poor maids. Daniel (Pacco): one. There was also another one with the in the airplane, like who would throw up first or something like that? Didn't they yeah. Corey: Yes. Yeah. Sam: yes. Tell the pilot to settle down now. Corey: To be honest, it kind of gave me vibes of Squid Games just in regards to the rich and they're like, I'm bored, what can we do to excite us? And it's like let's Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Corey: come up with these fun betting games and yeah, guess who's gonna win. Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Daniel (Pacco): Well, Sam: I I bet if if this if this race went on for another hundred years there'd be some death involved for sure. It'd become a death games, for sure. Daniel (Pacco): Well, there's more movies that have a very similar vibe. I don't know if you've seen it. I was like in the early thousands. The Condemned with Steve Austin. No, you haven't seen it. It's the same sort of vibe. Prisoners all go on an islet and then it all gets filmed on the dark web and they all try to kill each other. The Survivor gets grand prize and whoever plays bets. Yeah. Yeah. Sam: Yeah, wow. As you do, Daniel (Pacco): I did check Sam: Everything. Daniel (Pacco): out the reviews. A few people did mention it, kinda reminded them of Squid Game, you know. I saw Sam: Yeah, Daniel (Pacco): several comments on that. So Yeah. Sam: Yeah, just saying there's definitely some comparisons. Corey: A light hearted virgin. Sam: Yes, exactly. No death and a lot more a lot more bit funnier, you know? Corey: Yes. Sam: So it all culminates in d th I know I n Paco, I knew you'd love this bit, but it all culminates in a smash mouth charity concert. They just somehow fall arse backwards, literally, onto stage of a of smash mouth charity concert but did I get did I get wrong it sounded like that was starting the show right and they played one song they're like thank you and good night was that me it felt like they're Daniel (Pacco): I didn't pick up. Yeah, I didn't pick up on that bit. Corey: But did they? Sam: or do you think this is just like the last song and they've s the the whole stage was just dark for whatever reason and they've just walked out on stage. I don't know maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe yeah exactly right Daniel (Pacco): That could have been like an encore. Yeah, I was just thinking. Corey: Could have been an encore. Yeah. But the crowd wasn't cheering, it was all quiet, so yeah. Sam: it was just this weird like Daniel (Pacco): Just Sam: But Daniel (Pacco): dead silent. Sam: but I I love the the the the the shaming of Donald Sinclair and he's like bring him out and he's no I have to give all this money away now no and they're just suddenly hating life and they're giving away all their money. but I love how they didn't they they don't realize it's a charity thing at first, you know. I love I think it's you know Cuba Cutting Jr. is like, no no we j we just met this morning. They just met this morning Daniel (Pacco): Gee. It ended in such a two thousand vibe sort of Sam: But absolutely. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, you know, just everyone's rocking to a song. what song, come on. You guys all know it. Yeah. Sam: Yeah. yeah, Smash Frame. All Star's a absolute banger. I will say this is the the the this has the the quintessential all-star version with with Hitler's harmonica added in there. That really came on to it. I just watching that I think that's the last best laugh of the film. I just I everything to do with that whole you know, finding relics of Hitler's stuff in storyline, I don't know, just was hilarious to me. And it just Daniel (Pacco): Hey. Sam: and the fact that he brings it out as he goes Just had a great time. Daniel (Pacco): That Vandy fella, he definitely had a character arc though. He hated what he called a Volkswagen. That's Hitless vehicle, blah blah but you know And he ends up playing and playing the harmonica Sam: Yeah. I wouldn't drive that to driving Hitler's car and Exactly. Daniel (Pacco): like I had a little area that talked about what worked on the film and what didn't work on the film. So again, I've found this one very similar to like the Onion movie. It there was a lot of skits going on. Everyone had their own ten to fifteen minutes, you know, little show Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): and it will rotate between the crowds and the crowds. And it's like every time it came back to person A, let's say It was like a another chapter, you know, it's like, what's going on now with these guys? Why is there a balloon tied to a cow? Why has they got another in his mouth? You know, i i it worked like that. It just like you mentioned earlier, it was a bit train wreck, but it made you kinda Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): engaged at the same time. You're just thinking, What is going on? Who could think the stupid stuff up? My God. But Sam: Ha ha Daniel (Pacco): along the lines of that, to me what didn't work, some of the humour just felt like it was just downright annoying. You know what I mean? Like the guy with the pierced tongue, he's just screaming all the way through the movie. Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): I look I like it when he talks is like But I mean mate, you you're on top of a bonnet on the car and it's on cruise control at like ten kilometers an hour and you're Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): screaming and the guy in front just running in like the direct line of it like just just fucking just fucking move. Thank you. Sam: Yeah, just yeah. I always loved that. The the you could easily turn to the left and completely dodge everything, but you'll keep going forward to be like you're chased Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. Sam: down by it. Daniel (Pacco): Like I saw those two like dumb and dumber, but like a parody version of it as well. Yeah, but I just thought it was yeah, Sam: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I get the Daniel (Pacco): so I just found those two mildly infuriating watching the fleet. Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Like, did you guys have anything that you thought worked and didn't work in this film? Corey: I liked the whatever, Tracy and the other guy. Daniel (Pacco): Are they chemistry or Sam: that would be Tracy and Nick. Corey: Yeah. Nick, yeah, yeah. I don't know, just the like where they started and where they finished. Like, you know, Nick was very, you know, buy it a book, can't do anything wrong. And by the end of it he's Sam: Hmm. Corey: like done so much like bad stuff and like, you know Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, reckless. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sam: Yeah. Corey: like totally changed, so whereas like the family, like the pair family, they kind of annoyed me a bit. So yeah, there was a lot like there was a lot of funny moments but then also a bit of annoying parts. So they're like Daniel (Pacco): How so annoying. Like Corey: like yeah, the guy with the pierced tongue who couldn't really talk. but then I did Sam: Yeah. Corey: quite it was hilarious to start when they're trying to fall over and commit like, you know, fraud Daniel (Pacco): my Corey: in injuring themselves at the airport. and then I did love the scene where they're in the car and he's sort of showing his piercings and the girl showing hers and Yeah. And then he sort of yeah, Sam: yeah. They crash off into Daniel (Pacco): hey Corey: loses gets distracted and he's veers off the road and yeah, that was quite good. Sam: Which would never happen guys, right? Never. Never happened to us. Would never. Daniel (Pacco): I'm not saying that on a record, but I mean Yeah, Sam: Yeah. Corey: I just wanna know where those chains were going. Daniel (Pacco): I wish we got that guy's view. What about you, Sam? Sam: Yeah Yeah, I th I think like look, I mean I'm pretty open on it I really enjoy the film, but I think if I was to pick anything, I feel like there are some really strong I feel like because they wanted everyone in the film to kind of be at the end of the film, there's there's some really strong pieces for each of the characters, but sometimes it feels like some of them are being filled in. I I think, yeah, with those brothers, I think some of the storylines felt a little bit like filler just to kind of get them there. possibly almost similar with like a few yeah I don't I know there was some really important parts to it as well, but and I love the squirrels, don't get me wrong. But I feel like it's just like, it was just for no reason. Like there's a lot not that I mean it's a it's a it's a comedy film. It's it's for no reason. But yeah, that I feel like there were parts of there were there were each storyline had a really strong piece, like a really strong kind of comedic piece, but some of them kinda dwindled down a little bit and some of them I think the the strongest ones are probably the the the the family. I think everything they did was just bloody hilarious. But yeah, like the brothers maybe not everything had me cackling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But Daniel (Pacco): agree. Yeah. Seems valid, seems valid. Sam: So what did we rate this overall? What was our what were our overall impressions? What do we give it out of five? What was the Daniel (Pacco): Well Sam: The overall thoughts. Daniel (Pacco): I feel bad because I find comedy movies very subjective. Like your humour might be different to the next person to the next person. So overall, I didn't really find the movie funny. I thought it was fun, if you know what I mean. But I wasn't laughing out loud on this. Like there were scenes that just made me go, my god, what the hell is going on here? But Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah, it's I don't know, it just felt like it wasn't in my humour sort of category. I did have high hopes on this flick when you brought it up and you're like, it's the greatest thing ever so I think you did. Sam: Did I oversell it? Damn it, not again. Daniel (Pacco): I think you did on my becast. Like, look, you got a great cast and you got a very funny and interesting plot going on. But yeah, it just it kinda just plateaued after that in my opinion. So Yeah, it didn't really work for me in there and again only chuckled a handful of times, so maybe two out of five, two and a half out of five for me. Yeah. Yeah, see look. Yeah, I know, I know, but that's what I'm Sam: Two out of five. Wow. Yeah, that's a big call. Corey: You're a tough packer. Daniel (Pacco): saying. Like, if I show you comedy movies I like, you guys will probably give it a one or a two. Like this guy's sick. Corey: yeah, I'd probably give it a probably a three. So yeah, six out of ten. Like it was good, but it wasn't great. but yeah, that's all that is the same like most comedy movies, it's it's either hits the mark or it doesn't 'cause it is very subjective. Sam: Yeah. Corey: So there was a lot of moments that were sort of like, it's kind of funny. but I just loved the cast. The cast was great, like literally almost all of them I'm like, I know that one from such and such and yeah, and it was just a good fun, Sam: Yeah. Corey: lighthearted movie. So and like especially you just yeah, if you haven't seen it in a while you're sort of like, wow, you don't know where it's what's gonna happen in the next scene sort of thing. So keeps it interesting. Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): Hmm. Sam: Yeah. Well, I clearly am off the mark for you guys because I gave this one a four out of five. I really Yeah, this this film continuously makes me laugh. I think that's the thing is that there were things that I hadn't laughed at before in the other film that I maybe missed the previous few times that I watched. So this one for me was an instant classic for me. this maybe just hits the humour for me. So yeah, four out of five. But I'm sorry I let you guys down there. If I you know, maybe maybe I'm just too easily pleased in in terms of comedy. I'm sorry to tell you. Daniel (Pacco): Damn, damn. I I'm just wondering how it works with your other ratings. Like if you give this four out of five, what do you give Avengers Endgame? Like how do you how do you Sam: Yeah, look, I would not put too much scope into the consistency of my ratings. because yeah, look, I mean I will tell you I I d I gave Avengers Endgame five stars 'cause I love that one. I mean again I'm big Letterboxd user so you can go check out my letterbox account to see what I have given five stars to but if I if I was to s if I was to sort them by what is it ratings highest? Let's have a look. So and again you can check out my full letterbox here, but I have given twenty-five films that are five stars. So like that's and some of those on there include like Parasite, The Dark Knight, The Avengers Avengers Endgame, Back to the Future, like Inside Out, Five Stars. There's a few there's plenty of films there, Jurassic Park, I watched that the other the other night. there's a lot of you know, I I clearly am not afraid to give out a five star kind of thing. So I mean Daniel (Pacco): You're very generous. Sam: Apparently so, yeah. But again, check out we can check out my full letterbox to see my my full five star collection here. Some of them may be controversial, some of them maybe not. But and look I Yeah, I know. But Daniel (Pacco): By clicking. By clicking the link below. Sam: I mean, look, you know, if we're talking like ratings in general, I I think I tend to maybe overrate things sometimes, but I would s I would stand by the things that I've given five stars to that are are pretty bloody great films. But but my five stars, Daniel (Pacco): No, it's completely valid. Look it Sam: it's not just the quality of the film, it's also gotta be the enjoyment factor that I had on the film. And it very much, you know, and the same with the full like I mean the star rating. It's it's gotta it's gotta be partly because of its quality and partly because of how much of I enjoy it. And every time I watch Rat Race, I just come back and have a great time. Daniel (Pacco): Completely valid. Completely valid. Nah, again, it's all subjective and well perspective in the end. So yeah. I'm just Sam: Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And don't be wrong, I'm I'm not afraid to go as low as like half a star or whatever ham what what's the the lowest do you can you guys get can anyone guess what the lowest rated film I have on my on on I've got two films that are rated half a star. Can you guess what they are? Corey: Was it the Onion movie? Daniel (Pacco): Jeez. No, no, I think he gave it a three. Lord. Half a star. Sam: at the twos that I've also given, I'm like, geez, they weren't that bad. So I probably could we've talked about Daniel (Pacco): I'm just trying to think is anything we know? Any chance anything we know? Sam: it. So one of them is Velocipaster, great film, Daniel (Pacco): shit. Sam: but terrible film. and Seaspiracy, which is like this kind of really terrible how would you describe it? Like a really terrible doco like kind of YouTube vlog doco and not just only was it terrible to watch but my roommate at the time made me watch it he's like because you know again I clearly like to pick movies so I I you know any but I'm also open to suggestions. Anyone that's watching this and he's like there's this really cool doco that I want to watch like alright sure put it on and it was this kind of very like vegan preachy doco and I didn't want to give him the satisfaction to be like I don't to watch this so I remember pretending to fall asleep during the film because it was so bad. So there you go. That's what gets you half a star. It's all about this experience as well as as well as the quality of the film. Daniel (Pacco): Damn. I'm trying to think what's on my half a star. I think no, the last movie I did half a star on, not onion movie, but emoji movie. Has anyone seen that? it's garbage. Sam: I have it, but I have heard it is quite terrible. Daniel (Pacco): It is so bad. It's like why you Sam: But then Daniel (Pacco): spend that much on a movie, you get such a cast and it's like this is shit. It was so cringe. Sam: Yeah. Do you know the do you know the writer of the emoji movie also is the writer and director for The White Lotus? Which is like one of the if you guys haven't seen it, it's like one of the most fabulous TV shows made. Fantastic. Yeah. So it really shows the range of some people just clearly get paid. it do you know who it is? Yeah, I see School of Rock? Mr. Schneebli? Like Daniel (Pacco): yeah, yeah. yeah. Sam: As in the real Mr. Corey: yeah. Sam: Schneebli? Yeah. That's the guy. That's Daniel (Pacco): No life. Sam: he's the he's also the writer of School of Rock. Yeah. Okay, Mike White is his name. There you go. So there's your little fun facts for today. Daniel (Pacco): Wow. Wow. Wow. Sam: Alright, so yeah, so alright, so a bit of a mixed bad with Rat Race. I'm sorry Paco it didn't live up to the expectations that I was holding for you. It was fun. You're not angry, you're just disappointed. Daniel (Pacco): No, no, no, no. Like I said, it was fun. I just Yeah. No, just it w you know, I didn't have much of a feeling after. Like, you know, you go you either laugh at it or you enjoy it or you feel immersed. I just Yeah. I Sam: Yeah. Daniel (Pacco): don't know. Maybe I'm very harsh with my ratings, but you know, that's what makes me select what I'm gonna watch again and not. Yeah. Sam: It's okay, we we we accept you exactly for who you are, Paco. It's okay. And your opinions. They could be wrong, but we'll accept them anyway. Daniel (Pacco): Change that with value. Sam: So next so now it's your turn, Paco, because you know, let's judge you on your film choices now. Because the next Daniel (Pacco): All right, all right. Sam: choice is up for you. What have you got for us? Daniel (Pacco): Alright guys. Well next film I'm choosing it because you know, we have wait. We saw. Sam: Wait, wait, before you decide, before you decide, you know what we need to do? Daniel (Pacco): Wild Robot by DreamWorks. Has anyone seen that yet? Because I noticed no Corey: All right. Daniel (Pacco): one reviewed it on Letterboxd and Sam: I've been putting off Daniel (Pacco): it's one of my favorites and far out. When I watched it the first time, I'm not kidding. I was just like, hold it in, hold it in. Corey: huh. Sam: Okay, I'll stop Daniel (Pacco): It's Sam: playing with the soundboard again. Daniel (Pacco): It's got soul. Like I'm know, there was like a few in between you didn't think much. And then this came out of nowhere and you're like, Wow, this is amazing. So Sam: Yeah. So is this is this gonna be a bit of an emotional roller coaster? Do we need get the the tissues ready? Daniel (Pacco): Probably maybe for well Anita Tegan. Like if they haven't seen it yet, get it ready because Sam: Yeah. Yeah. No I I Tegan has seen this one, but she is a huge fan of this movie and has been trying to get me to watch it for a long time, so she will be very excited this is the movie we picked. So And it's it's one of those Daniel (Pacco): Enjoy it. That's all I can say. Enjoy. It's Sam: films where I've been like I've w again, kinda similar to Radio Not. I'm like I've not I'm not close up to seeing it. I wanna see it. I just gotta be in the right mood to see it. But you know, at least we've got an excuse to watch it now. So there we go. I'm very much looking forward Daniel (Pacco): I know you got an excuse. Definitely got an excuse. Sam: to it. Daniel (Pacco): Yeah. You you need to tell me your perspective on it though, because people say when they watched it from being single to watching it being with a partner to watching it to after having a kid, you get a whole different vibe in all three. So see how you go. Sam: Okay. Yeah, well, if only we had a if only we had a podcast to discuss our thoughts and feelings about a film after watching it. Yeah, I know we should do that. It's a great idea. Yeah, alright, okay. Daniel (Pacco): Something right? Yeah. And another reason why I'm choosing it because it's got ducks in it, so you know. Sam: Ducks. Ducks. Have I told Corey: Yeah. Sam: you? You must I I'm sure I mean we know how much you love ducks, but my daughter loves ducks now. She's obsessed with everything. We have little blocks Daniel (Pacco): Yes. Sam: in our house. So there's like little you know things to choke towers on them. And the only like maybe like five or six of them out of maybe like a hundred of them have ducks on them. Every time she grabs them, she goes and deliberately finds the one that has a duck on it. She loves ducks. Daniel (Pacco): Don't blame her. They are awesome. Sam: On that note, unless you guys have anything else. well we have one thing we didn't we didn't check in with and we usually check in is how did you guys watch this film with your with your wives? Yeah? How did they go? Did they make it through? devastating. Daniel (Pacco): Yes, but sh wasn't wasn't interested after fifteen minutes. Sorry. I'll get her onto this wild robot. I wanna see how many times she tears up. I'll count for you guys. Sam: Ha ha ha. Corey: Has she seen it before? Daniel (Pacco): no, not like I did. I I because to be honest, the first time Sam: interesting. Daniel (Pacco): I watched it I was flying overseas to Thailand and I'm just watching on the iPad and just You Sam: Tearing up on the clean. Daniel (Pacco): know. I just I was glad it was a night flight. Everyone was asleep. So Sam: You know? Do you know what you would have said when you were a lo when you were in high school? You would have s we would have said to you, You sissy Well, I can't yeah. No, Daniel (Pacco): He's a sissy Sam: I'm really looking forward to this one now. This is gonna be a great time. Daniel (Pacco): No, no, you're gonna enjoy it and I'm definitely looking forward to watching it again, so it's been a while. Sam: Alright, alright, the Wild Robot for a Wild Roll Coaster of Emotions this week. thanks again for tuning in to Pile of Mates. Cory Paco, thanks as always for tuning in. It's always a pleasure. Alright, well, Daniel (Pacco): So I've been asked. Corey: Well have enough. Sam: we'll chat to you guys next week about the wild robot. Bye. Daniel (Pacco): Mm-hmm. Corey: Bye.