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When Your Cats Are Peeing On Everything · Back In The Closet - Two Crazy Cat Ladies

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I'm Jay, I'm Adrian, and together we are the 2.
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Crazy cat ladies, I'm gonna cut you.
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I think I just peed. Buckle up, we're back in the
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closet. Welcome to another episode of
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Back in the Closet with the 2 Crazy Cat Ladies.
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It is just the two of us. Just the two of us tonight,
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guys, because we have some stuff and things to talk about and
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we've been traveling and we just wanted to come live with you
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guys and like, actually like tell you some some big stuff and
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things. And yeah, some stuff and things,
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some some things that are that are going on in our lives with
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us. And as you may love it, kitties.
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Our beautiful babes. Oh, there's one right there.
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Well, hello, there's Friday. OK.
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So we're going to cover some of the challenges we've had.
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This is like basically mid year are.
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You kidding me? Like it's it's May, so it's
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month #5 and we're already into month #5.
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Holy. So it's like.
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Crap. Is that crazy?
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OK. So for those of you guys that
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join us, so for those of you guys that joined us at the
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beginning of the year where we were super excited about all the
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stuff and things that we were going to do because this is our
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decade in review, right? Like this is not in review, I
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guess, but this is our decade. Our 10 year anniversary is 2025,
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where we had and have like a a massive list of like what do we
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want to do for our ten years to celebrate our ten years for the
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cat community, for the cats out there that just need.
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Shannon Shannon is here and she said.
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I really hope that we can find some help here.
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My Kitty is randomly peeing on me while I'm laying in bed as
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well as on other soft places. First and foremost, first and
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foremost, I will tell you that I as well have been through this.
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OK, so one of our cats, Annie, woke up at 4:30 in the morning
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one morning and she's literally peeing on my face.
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So yes, the main, the main gist of what we're talking about on
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this podcast is cat peeing everywhere, cats that are just
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peeing all over your house. And the steps that we're going
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to that we are taking and then we are going to and we are
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continuing to take to, to resolve this so that you guys
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can come along on our journey. It's going to kind of be a
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little bit of a teaser because we don't have it completely
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resolved yet to be very honest, but but that we do have a lot of
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tips that have worked for us in the past that are not currently
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working, but we will. We will get into that.
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Oh my God, it is so weird. OK, so, but I have to go back
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real quick to Jay talking about us coming into our 10 year
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anniversary year. Did you see that jumping Kitty?
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Our 10 year anniversary year? And if anyone knows Jay, you
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know that she has a list for everything.
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She has her goal list, she has her milestone list, she has her
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daily list. She has all the all the.
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Listings I list a lot. And, and it is really part of
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the magic I think to to why we are here 10 years later.
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I agree. Thank you.
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I absolutely I agree. Believe it's.
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If it's not on the list, it doesn't get done right.
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So the year that we had planned, but everything that we had in
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motion is, is not what it's turning out to be.
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And and while, you know, for every now and then, it feels
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like, oh, well, this is not working out.
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You can be frustrated and you can be right.
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Like we've been through that. I think we have a cat really in
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our closet right now. But really this?
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Is so apropos. But really, if we look at our,
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our history, right, like, and not just, I mean, all of you
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guys too, right? Anybody that's listening here
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tonight or today, whatever day you're listening, if you know,
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if you have like the way life goes is you set up a plan or you
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have an idea of what you want it to be.
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And yes, there is a 1000% manifestation is true, right?
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But the how in the manifestation is not always right.
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And God has a better plan or the universe has a has a better plan
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for us sometimes when our plan isn't actually always the best
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SO and. That's what we're.
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Realizing so like. Ambiguous.
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Ambiguous. There you go.
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Right. So that is what is turning out
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this year is, is again part of a much bigger journey and we are
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accepting some of the roadblocks.
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I will say the beginning of the year we had some big launches we
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were talking about. Oh my God.
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It's something we've been working on for more than a year
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and we get down to the very last, like pull the easy
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triggers. I've already sent out
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newsletters saying like with a huge teaser of like this, this
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is calm. Like this is calm, so excited.
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March turned into April, April turned into end of April and now
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we're kind of on, on hold and it's and it's.
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Launching new products for for those of you guys, anybody
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that's listening or that is like that that is interested in, in
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creating new products for whatever, right?
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Humans, animals, whatever. There's a lot that goes into it,
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right? It's not just like, oh, you know
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what? I'd like to sell that product.
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I'm. Going to get a website, I'm
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going to put up a product. Page No.
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If you want it, if you want it that easy, do the affiliate
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marketing where somebody else has done the work right,
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somebody else has already figured it out and then you help
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them sell it. That's beautiful.
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Wonderful. We are in the market of we want
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to create a product and we want it to be like this.
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And so we we and we need it to be perfect.
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So and it doesn't have to be perfect, but this is perfect.
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The product that we found is perfect.
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We just can't figure out how to package it.
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So there's like so much that goes into the.
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Actual product itself selling. Physical products, it's not,
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it's not all just like cut and dry and easy and rainbows and
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unicorns. So, so yeah, some of that stuff
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has been put off. Back to the original list, I
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think it's I, I think it is something that we've learned in
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our many years together is that when something like blows up in
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your face or something is weird. In hindsight, we're like, oh,
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that was perfect timing for something that needed to happen
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or something that we needed to learn.
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So we've learned. I remember in 2019 when our
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house broke when the roof was leaking everywhere.
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We had no walls, no ceiling, no floors, and we had big plans for
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2019 and we we remembered that true.
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Right. Oh my God, guys, we had like, it
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was the $1,000,000 deal is what I said.
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Like this is like the this is the best thing.
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This is the year. This is the year we're gonna do
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it. And it wasn't.
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And there was so much, there was so much solar lining to that
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time. And there was so much that we
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remembered from many years prior that it's like when something
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like this happens, you know, when you're trying to move
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forward with something and you get the green light, you get the
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green light, and you get the green light, and then you get a
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big, fat red light that means something to us in the bigger
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scheme of things. And in 2019, I remember being
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full of joy. We had to live in one little
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bedroom with all of our cats. Our entire house was demolished.
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And like the the by demolish she means like the.
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Insulation. No floors, no ceilings.
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Like everything, everything was stripped out.
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Plastic sheets everywhere, yeah. And so this year, I feel like
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we're, we were so excited about this one particular launch.
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Yeah. And it's been so long in the
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making. And then we get down to that,
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like literally down to the finish line and it's not going
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to, we can't do it in the way we want to do it.
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We. Could do it, but we would do it
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half ass and we can't do half ass.
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We're just not we. Learned that lesson a long time
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ago, yeah. We're not willing to do half
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ass, so that means that it's going to be a little bit longer
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before the stuff that is. There are some things on hold,
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but in the meantime. In the meantime.
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There are some incredible new never thought of.
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Opportunities. Opportunities that have emerged
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that require so much energy and focus and time that.
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It's. Kind of and will be, I'm going
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to tease this before we get into the cat's peeing.
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That will be such an incredible resource, not just for our
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family, your entire community. And that's the kind of stuff
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that manifestation is made of. Yes, I just it.
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There's a lot of exciting stuff going.
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On it is it is it's it's very exciting because you're you're
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literally manifesting something and you think it's going you
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think it's coming from A and it's actually coming from B
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instead, right like all we want to do you guys know us very well
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so you all know this but like all we want to do is leave a
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legacy, make a change. We want to help the the cat
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parents and the cat community grow right?
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We want to bring anything and everything that we can.
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Any great advice, any great suggestions, any great products,
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whatever that is, we want to bring that to the cat community
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so that we can change the world, right?
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Like that's our, that's our actual manifestations.
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We want to change the world. All of us know.
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All of us know. And Sarah, I see you.
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I love you so much. I'm so glad you're here.
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Linda, I see your comment as well.
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It is is such a challenge because yeah, you know, it has a
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Kitty that's spraying when he's upset big problem that wants to
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put him on Kitty Prozac looking for other options, right when
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our babies aren't happy when there's something going on it it
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it wrecks it. It really does wreck.
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Maybe period it. Wrecks.
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It's it's it's a. Good one.
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Instead of like it that tracks, it'll be like that wrecks.
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It wrecks. It's I'm I, I can't.
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I'm starting that right here, right now, just so you know,
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right here. Right.
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Nicely done. OK, so into our problem.
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Miss Marilyn Bickel is here. Hello, love.
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That does really happen. Yeah, Laura Lee does know this
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summer is going to be a meowzing, correct?
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It is. So let's get into our issue.
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And this is what is and I know that if you've been following
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us, you know that we are currently in a situation where
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we have multiple cats that continue to mark P eliminate
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like everywhere. Let's just go through some of
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those places for you now so that you don't feel alone on our
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headboard on. On our head.
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On Jay's face. On our stove windows.
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Floors. Floors.
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Couch trash cans. Trash cans like to get in the
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trash cans and pee in the trash. Our sinks.
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Our sinks are a big one. That's like a regular.
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They just started peeing on the stairs that's just started
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Which. Sucks because that's like the
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only place that we have carpet. Right, so it is.
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It has been, it's, it's been exhaustive, right?
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Because we know from feeling behaviorist that when our cats
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start peeing in places and they are healthy, y'all, this is just
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a reminder. If your cat suddenly start
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peeing outside a litter box, you have to go to the vet.
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You have to make sure there's not a urinary tract issue, any
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kind of health problem that is causing them to eliminate in
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inappropriate places. A lot of times cats will start
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going outside the box because they don't feel well and that's
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their way of telling you, right? Like they're, they're not like
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dogs and just like whimper at your feet.
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They will tell you in their behavior.
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So you got to get all your check your cats checked out if this is
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happening or get the cat that is going outside the box checked
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out if they start peeing everywhere right?
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If you have multiple, it's really important.
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The first step. To find out who's doing it
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right. So, so once you recognize that
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this is not a emphatically not a health issue, this is
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emphatically, yes, a behavioral issue.
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And there are perhaps certain dynamics that are contributing
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to it. For example, we know that we
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have now. And last night was a great
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reminder of this. Last night we had, we talked
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about our girls being kind of the troublemakers in the house.
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Friday doesn't get along with Annie and he doesn't like
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Maddie. Friday and Madison are kind of
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OK right now, but. But they they're supposed to
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attack her. They're doing.
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This like weird girl thing right?
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Our boys have always been perfect.
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Last night we were in the kitchen making dinner and the
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catio was open and we hear a catfight.
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A loud catfight. And we immediately thought it's
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Andy and. Friday.
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Right. So we went, We started where she
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went running. I was like, I turned around and
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saw Friday walking. And I like she just and we're
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like, what is going on? It was our boys in the catio and
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there was fur flying. And poor Jack peed all over.
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Himself and a little bit on Zorro and this is caused by one
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for cats that we have roaming our neighborhood so we know that
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this is an issue. We also just realized that there
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is a cat peeing on the ledge outside of Jay's.
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It's like literally peeing on the window that our cats sit at.
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Sprayed the window from the outside.
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I thought for sure it was our cat's spray.
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And I was like, so one of our cats went up and started
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sniffing. I was like, I see it baby, I'm
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going to clean it. I got it, I got it.
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It's OK. Like you stay away from it.
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And then I went to clean it and I was like, this is nothing is
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clean that's on the outside. I was like, holy hell.
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So, and we just realized too that that that roof area and
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there's a little covered part underneath it and there's a tarp
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that's keeping like tile and stuff dry.
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We just had some rain and that tarp when I walked back there to
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pull the water off the tarp. Yesterday.
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Yesterday it smelled so strong of cat pee so I went and got the
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black light and the puddles in that tarp just glowed.
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Listen, I think that I think I think what's happening is we're
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the 2 crazy cat ladies and the memo is out and all the cats in
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the neighborhood that that aren't kept inside or taken
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WellCare of. They are just roaming around and
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they're like, let's go to this house.
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There's. One everything.
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She likes wine, she's fine. She's she's gonna you might need
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to hold your wine for a minute. I will, baby girl.
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It's fine. She's.
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Trying to get in the sock drawer.
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It's fine. Oh, hi, Karen.
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Poor Jack and Z. Right.
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So redirected digression is a big thing.
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I'm grateful that our boys love each other.
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Zorro came up, we Jaywin and made sure Zorro didn't have big
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Boo boos. I made sure Jack didn't have big
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Boo boos. And within 10 minutes, they were
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laying together. We didn't have to do the
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reintroduction and all the stuff that some people and we have in
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the past, like have to go through.
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They were like, OK, guys, as soon as they calm down, they're
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like, all right. They were all very cool sniffing
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Jack. He's like, oh man, you pissed
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yourself. And he was just sitting there
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being supportive while Jack cleaned himself up.
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It's but scary moment, right? Yeah.
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Meanwhile, today we realized the couch has been heat on again.
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She's. Taking out socks.
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Let's just let her really go ahead.
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Yeah, empty. The sock drawer, I'm so grateful
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to. The boys are getting along, but
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there's definitely a lot of marking happening and we have
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met with behaviorists. When Annie came to us, we
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realized. That animal communicators.
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Animal communicators, we have shout out to Karen Demby Smith.
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Thank you SO. Much here tonight.
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Yes. Thank you so much.
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Shout out to Linda Hall who is also here tonight.
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Julianne Hart, like we have done a lot and of stuff and things
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over the past. I will tell you 2 years that
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this has been going on. Yeah, I mean, I'm totally fine
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with this other. I'm usually the more permissive
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parent, so Jay is literally at the end of her row.
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She's letting this. Go down.
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She's being so cute and she's doing it on camera.
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I might stop this podcast. You can't see that she is.
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That we have a cat that just opened our drawers.
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Pairs of socks. And.
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And and is. Going inside.
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There you go. All right, So baby.
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Girl. So, so it's been, it's been a
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bit of a shit show, right, To be honest with you.
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Now, I do want to tell you that we have been through it before.
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We have been through the situation, cats marking, our
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cats marking outside the box, marking certain things.
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And we have learned a whole lot of things along our journey as a
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2 crazy cat ladies. And so we want to share some of
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those tips with you guys. So if you're listening and you
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have a cat that is going outside the box and you're like, oh, I
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need to, I need to hear, I need to hear this right.
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And then we. Want to give you some tips.
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You've been to the vet, you know that they are.
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Again #1 go to the vet if this suddenly starts happening,
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right? Like just get them checked out.
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Just make sure, just get a urinalysis even like in a blood,
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in a blood test, right? Like, let's just make sure that
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everything's OK. And then once we know that this
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is a behavioral issue, there are stuff and things that are easy
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tips that we've been giving for so long that have helped us in
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the past. We correct these issues that we
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can give to you guys. So let's just run through them
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really quickly. The first one, Yeah, the first
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one. Let's talk about litter boxes.
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The first, the first couple, I think are going to be about
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litter boxes. Number one, do you have enough
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litter boxes? Right.
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The going rule is to have one more litter box then you have
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cats. I understand that's not always
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going to be possible, especially in small spaces.
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And if you have 32 cats, might not be.
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I don't think that's even a thing.
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No, you just have. No, having 32 cats is a thing,
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but having 33? 33 litter boxes?
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Probably not. Might not be a thing I OK, so
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having enough litter boxes, if you have the space, please do
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that. Is the litter box big enough?
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This was something that was fascinating to us, especially
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since some of you guys might remember our big boys, our
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Oliver Twist and our Pooh Bear, both very big cats.
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And Doctor Marcy Koski shared with us the the litter box needs
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to be appropriately sized for your cat.
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So it needs to be a length and 1/2 of your gap from the tip of
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their nose to the base of their tail.
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Plenty of room to turn around. We realized we didn't have a
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single litter box that was that big for our big boys.
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And we did. The storage containers, the
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storage totes. We currently now use the 90
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quart storage totes. I just got some new ones that
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are going to be coming tomorrow. You did get them.
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Yeah, awesome. And so do you have enough litter
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boxes? Are the litter boxes
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appropriately sized? And where are the litter boxes
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located? Think about where you need to do
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your business. Most of us have a door in our
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toilet room. Most of us feel comfortable
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while we're doing our business. Door in the toilet room.
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Well, like in your bathroom. The door to the bathroom.
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Annie is about to try to crawl up in the drawer that Friday's
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got it. I don't think that's.
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That is ill advised my love. I don't think that's a smart
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idea, baby girl. This could this could turn into
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a real life example of some of the dynamics that we are working
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through. Welcome.
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Yes, welcome. So placement of litter boxes is
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always also important for a long.
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Time. How often you scoop is also very
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important. So you can have 17 litter boxes
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and three cats, but if you don't ever scoop them.
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That doesn't have any litter boxes, so you don't have to do
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litter every day or twice a day. Then right, right.
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So, so I mean, that's an exaggeration, but to say like
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cats, like cats, cats are very clean beans.
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They they groom themselves for a huge majority of every day
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because kind of. Their waking hours.
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Correct, because they they are the studies.
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They are very clean right and they like to be they're very
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much like us. I don't want to poop in an
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already pooped in pot, right? Exactly right.
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Like I, I really dislike porta potties to you.
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No, we do not want to do that. Some other things that have been
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really helpful and feeling behaviors.
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I think I scooped 3 to 4 times a day.
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See like and that's even more than we do, right?
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But. I'm starting to hit the the two
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times a day mark just because I'm like, is it just because
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there's one little pee BLOB in this box?
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Is this everyone's favorite box? Should I write like we're in a
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situation? A situation.
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It is a situation. You have the shit there's
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there's more pee than there is shit.
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Yeah, they are all there is. In the box, yeah, the poop is
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not a problem. I'm very Mr. Milligan said.
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Stars for the scene stealer behind you, Linda said.
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Can't hear a word you're saying? Too busy watching your drawers
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get cleaned out? Right.
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Yeah. It's entertaining.
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This will be fun to rematch in the morning in the morning.
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So some other things that can be really helpful and that we've
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learned from feeling behaviors is that cats will often pee on
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stuff or on you or in places because they're scent brings
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them comfort. There's something about their
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environment or there's something about an inner cat relationship
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or an interpersonal relationship that makes them not feel secure
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and or or yeah, like insecure. And so they will pee on stuff to
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kind of try to solidify a sense of comfort or a sense of
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security. Linda Hall is the one that said
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Annie's peeing on your face because an Annie was dumped on
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the side of the road. That's how we found her, that
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she came to us. She's peeing on you because she
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she wants to keep you. She doesn't want you to leave
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her. So understanding why our cats do
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this also helps with the compassion towards with moving
22:14
towards a solution. So if your cat is peeing, to
22:17
bring a sense of comfort, we've learned that scent swapping can
22:21
be really helpful. That's we did a whole cat tip on
22:25
how you can take a clean saw you during a friendly loving moment.
22:28
You can wipe their friendly pheromones.
22:30
You know, they come up and they rub up.
22:32
And this worked wonders for us guys like back in the day.
22:35
So so let me let me say this works especially this this
22:39
specific tip works really well if you have a cat that that
22:44
marks anything that is new that comes into the house, right?
22:47
A new piece of furniture, a new toy, a new whatever it is.
22:51
If they are the the type of cat that comes in and wants to spray
22:56
that to get their scent on this new thing that does not have any
23:02
smells yet, then the scent swapping is brilliant.
23:06
And that worked so well for our Pooh Bear.
23:09
So I I want to give an example of that Pooh Bear was a cat that
23:13
he would he, we learned a lot. He was one of our best teachers.
23:17
He would pee when he was feeling insecure.
23:18
I was at the litter box. He would pee when we would
23:20
leave. He liked to poop outside the box
23:22
when we would leave. At the front door.
23:23
Right and if we brought and we are, we are like Facebook
23:28
marketplace yard sale girls, right?
23:30
If we brought in a new piece of furniture to the house, we would
23:35
bring it in, be like, oh, where should we put it?
23:36
Before we can even find out where to put it, Bluebird would
23:39
pee on it and it's like, well I'm glad that was free.
23:43
So we learned scent swapping and found another little freak
23:49
chair, whatever it was. And so we did.
23:51
We brought it into our garage, had a lovely moment with Pooh
23:54
Bear. Wiped down his pheromones.
23:56
Pooh Bear was like clockwork. If you brought something new and
23:59
he'd come up, he'd smell it, he'd walk all the way around it,
24:02
and then he would pee on it. Yeah.
24:04
And just to to clarify what a scent swapping is, is get like a
24:07
clean sock, right, something like we have lots of them here
24:11
now, right. So a clean sock and put put it
24:16
over your hand and rub down their entire like their whiskers
24:20
in their head is like their friendly pheromones, which is
24:23
why you also see them like rub up against door frames and
24:27
things like that, because they're marking their territory.
24:30
That's a like a more human friendly way to mark their
24:34
territory, right, is to rub their face and and head against
24:38
things. So you rub that down and then
24:39
you immediately go to that new piece of furniture or that new
24:43
toy or that new whatever it is. That's a coat even, right?
24:47
Like something, if your cat is that, but like that level,
24:51
whatever it is, and then wipe it down.
24:54
You will not smell a thing. There's nothing that we will
24:58
smell because we do not have the scent sensors that are cheapest.
25:02
Easiest thing ever. We brought in a new the new
25:07
couch and we had we brought it into the garage before we
25:10
brought it in the house. We had the.
25:12
Levy. Right, we had the loving moment
25:14
with with Pooh Bear. Wiped him down, took that sock
25:16
out like weirdos. Wiped down the couch all the
25:19
way. All the way.
25:21
Yeah, if our neighbors saw us, which they probably did because
25:23
our garage was open, they were like.
25:25
What the hell is this? We brought the couch in.
25:27
Pooh Bear did the same thing. He came up, he sniffed it, he
25:29
walked all the way around, he jumped up on it, sniffed this
25:33
sniff and we're just waiting for him to torch it, laid down and
25:36
took a nap. That's right.
25:38
That's the power of scent swapping.
25:40
Never again did he mark something new that came into our
25:45
home. That is the power of a cat's
25:47
scent to themselves. So.
25:50
We have a lot of amazing tips that we have learned along our
25:55
journey from so many of them from you guys that we had.
25:58
That you're using. Right.
26:00
Yeah, like we have. We've been through a lot of
26:03
these situations personally and with you guys, right.
26:07
And so we have learned a lot along our decade of journey in
26:12
specifically the cat. Where we're trying so hard to
26:17
learn more. Yes, however, sometimes, every
26:22
once in a while. We think we try everything.
26:26
We, we're pretty sure we have tried everything that's in our,
26:29
you know, these are tools in your toolbox and write those
26:32
down or go back and listen to it again.
26:34
Or, you know, like, like implement some of these things
26:38
to see if that helps. But, but sometimes these are
26:43
just not enough. These little tips that we have
26:46
learned along our journey and that have been enough in the
26:48
past because it wasn't that big of a deal.
26:51
Now, right now, in 2025, our 10 year anniversary, our cats are
26:57
just. We're having a great and and
27:00
this has been 2025 years. As we've had cats.
27:04
And we have never had this issue.
27:06
Now, admittedly, when Annie came to us, we are pretty sure that
27:10
she was left for us to find. 1000% be.
27:15
One of our best teachers and she is just, she's here right now.
27:21
She just brought, let's bring in.
27:23
She is such a special being to us.
27:28
She will pee on your face and look you in the eye and has no
27:32
idea that she's doing. It, and she's happy about it.
27:34
She's very happy about it. She loves to just, I mean you
27:37
can be having a conversation with her about her new toys and
27:41
she will literally just start peeing.
27:44
She is completely healthy. Her urine pH is awesome.
27:48
All of our cats have been to the vet, yeah.
27:50
But the issue that we are currently having and we have
27:53
been. Having and it just.
27:55
Continues to get a little bit Oh my thing.
27:57
Here she loves to play fetch. She loves to play fetch.
28:01
She's she like it's A and it's not just her, right, It
28:05
exasperated. Right.
28:07
So since she. Came into our home but.
28:10
We had a couple issues here and there, especially with the
28:12
community cats coming by where it's like, Oh my God, they
28:15
sprayed the front door wide. Take the black light out and
28:18
someone had sprayed the front door from the outside.
28:20
So clean it, clean, clean it, clean it.
28:23
Like use the enzymatic cleaners, make sure you have everything
28:25
down and that and that resolved it.
28:29
Right now we have more community cats and we also have an Annie
28:34
who is peeing in places that are we have a creeper by creeper
28:42
everywhere. And then our other cats feel
28:44
like whoa because think about it like their cat, their scent
28:48
brings them comfort. So Annie wants to feel
28:51
comfortable everywhere. And our other cats are like,
28:55
whoa, I was feeling comfortable. You're like, this is rude.
28:57
I'm gonna spray here now too. Right.
29:00
So it has. Especially our girls.
29:02
It has snowballed into a situation where we are, I would
29:08
say, emotionally exhausted. We are going through enzymatic
29:13
cleaners and paper towels like I'm embarrassed to even say it
29:18
is. We have.
29:19
I have invested in a $40 called the Beast Black Light.
29:24
Highly recommend if you're having this issue.
29:26
She loves that black light. It will reveal the.
29:29
Issue. I had another black light it was
29:33
just for scorpions and I if I go and do like I kept smelling pee
29:39
on the stairs and I took that black light up and down didn't
29:42
see anything. No, the beast showed me there
29:45
was a spot, not the beast. Black light.
29:48
If you would like to pay us for promoting your product, The
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Beast. Yeah, if you're the beast, let
29:55
us know because it's it's an excellent product.
29:57
It is. So we're we're just exhausted
30:01
with cleaning with the the inner cat dynamic Friday who just went
30:06
in there that that to me tells me she needs another hidey hole
30:10
somewhere right. She's going to.
30:11
They got her I. Mean how many can you?
30:15
Get there's inner cat issues going on.
30:18
So we are at that point where honestly, Jay and I were kind of
30:21
like, maybe this is just a season.
30:24
We just need to persevere through this.
30:26
We need the keypads we. In our office chairs.
30:30
Yes, during meetings even like our like always.
30:34
So they like to spray my office chairs.
30:37
So we just yeah, so I so we just sit on on pee pads that we clip
30:43
with these Clippers like these little clips that we have.
30:46
Like the little like. To, to our office chairs and
30:50
that's what we, that's what I sit on every day while I'm
30:53
working like, and it, and when we're in our zoom meetings every
30:57
day, that is what we, that is what we do.
31:00
Today we had a podcast and we're like, well, maybe we take them
31:03
down and put them underneath us while we're sitting there.
31:05
And then we'll put them right back up because they might just
31:08
spray the chairs again. Like it's, it's that bad now,
31:11
guys. Jenna and Linda exhausted,
31:13
that's how I feel, Shannon said. I sleep with a plastic sheet
31:16
across my bed. I'm emotionally drained.
31:19
Yes, and This is why we're so you were.
31:22
Seen just so you know, I feel seen right now right so it's so
31:29
it is it so it's a thing and we're the 2 crazy cat ladies.
31:32
We are a decade in business of helping cats live the happiest,
31:36
healthiest and, and best lives possible.
31:40
And, and here we are two years in at least of, of, of, of going
31:49
just kind of like we resigned ourselves.
31:51
We had resigned ourselves to the fact that, OK, we're just not
31:56
going to have friends over. We don't have a lot of friends
31:58
locally anyway, so we're just, we're just gonna live with a pee
32:03
pad on our refrigerator and a pee pad on our chairs and a pee
32:07
pad on our headboards and a pee pad and have to take our we
32:11
haven't made our bed in two years.
32:13
Like actually like I make. Not the way, Jay.
32:16
Makes I make the bed, but without the pillows, right?
32:19
We have to stack the pillows separately on the floor and then
32:21
now we have to put a pee pad over the pillows because they
32:24
finally got to the point where now they wanna, now they wanna
32:27
pee on the pillows, right? They'll go to the stack of
32:30
pillows and. So it's, it's just gotten to
32:32
this point where it's like this is hopefully they grow out of it
32:36
one day. I don't know.
32:37
We've, I feel like we've done all the stuff and things.
32:39
We followed all of our advice. We've done all those tips.
32:43
We but here's the thing, here's the point here's the point,
32:50
here's the point that we want to make and the and the lesson that
32:54
we want to or the journey that we want to share with you guys
32:58
today, right? Is that, and we've said it for a
33:02
really long time, but we are ready.
33:07
We, Adrian and I, are ready to take the steps that we need to
33:14
take and make the commitment that we need to make in order to
33:20
in order to stop this issue. Get me the root of it.
33:24
You know, I was going to say real quickly, I think this is
33:27
something that where there's, there's been a disconnect for us
33:30
when we're talking about a health issue, we always say how
33:32
important it is to find the root cause of that issue.
33:36
Not just treat symptoms, but find out what's going, what's
33:41
going on, what's causing it, and then try to work on healing the
33:45
root issue. And we do that.
33:46
With, with the cats peeing everywhere, but the behavioral
33:50
issues, the behavioral issues, it's felt and we do know that
33:53
this doesn't they're, they're not doing this because they're
33:56
super happy all the time, honestly.
34:00
So happiness is a big part of health.
34:04
Let's be honest about that. But it has felt like more of an
34:07
inconvenience. We're busy, you know, It's like
34:10
I'm on pee patrol. She's on pee patrol.
34:12
My schedule is never the training.
34:14
Clean something. The disconnect happens when it's
34:17
like, now we're just trying to mitigate the damage, right?
34:20
We're not looking at the route. We've had a couple meetings with
34:23
feeling behaviorist where it's like, oh, we'll try this, try
34:26
that. We try it for two or three days.
34:27
Did you remember to do that? Did I remember to do that?
34:29
No, we but we spend thousands of dollars on like on auto feeders
34:33
or you know, it's. Like.
34:35
Let's do that. We spend a lot of money and then
34:38
it's like. But our consistency, our the
34:41
heart of consistency has not been in it.
34:44
And our, our level, our level of focus, not just of mitigation,
34:51
our level, level of focus. Why are our babies doing this?
34:55
Is it that Annie and Friday will never be friends?
34:57
But we need to figure out how to make them happy together.
35:00
Together. Is it community cats?
35:03
Is it us? Is it, is it waves of our
35:07
stress? Is it?
35:10
Is it? What could it be?
35:12
Now is the time that we are committed to really tackling
35:19
this. Yeah, to really to really
35:22
overcome this problem. Now we have someone that is in
35:26
our house every day and she is working with us every single day
35:31
or Bessie. And she is she she will be like,
35:35
oh, wow, you got pee here now and you got pee here now.
35:38
And I smell pee. And so it's, so it's it's
35:41
becoming more and more of an issue.
35:43
And we are ready. We are ready to do something,
35:46
really, actually do something about it other than just yeah,
35:51
yeah. So wait, Laura, Lisa.
35:53
Unfortunately, inappropriate behaviors will always be there
35:56
until the root cause is discovered.
35:59
Exactly. And that's, and that's the
36:00
thing. So, so and there's, I mean, I
36:04
feel like in our case, and many of you guys might be in the
36:09
same, in the same boat, right? But I feel like there's more
36:13
than one root cause when it comes to.
36:16
There's a lot of yeah, sometimes it's layering or doing something
36:20
in a different way. I feel like that's a great
36:24
statement. I feel like I don't think it is
36:27
just the cats outside that caused the she's knocking down
36:33
my shirts now that caused the redirected aggression with our
36:36
boys last night. Or that's peeing all over the
36:38
roof by her house like or by her office.
36:41
I feel like there's more. I know for a fact that when
36:45
Annie pees in one of the sinks and one of us like sees it
36:48
happen or whatever Friday is all over her ass.
36:52
It's like. And.
36:54
Then there's cat fights and then Annie feels more insecure.
36:58
There's there's more. It's complicated.
37:00
There's a lot, there's so much. We've got a lot of young cats
37:05
right now and there's a lot of dynamics going on and we've
37:08
never been in this. We have always had like
37:12
basically senior cats in like a like AI don't know, I don't know
37:17
even how to say it, but we've had a Clouder that has always
37:19
been like someone has always. Kind of an alpha cat.
37:23
Yeah, that has really done a great job of.
37:29
Helping. Everyone non violently helping
37:32
everyone find their space and their peace and their place.
37:37
And Oliver Twist has left us and it does feel like he left a
37:44
vacuum and, and be please understand that we know all of
37:50
this is for a reason. I love some of these comments
37:53
here. I love that we are not alone.
37:55
I I don't love that we're all going through this, but I do
37:58
love that this is going to help us all better understand these
38:01
beautiful beings. Hi Annie.
38:03
Ben, Annie, these beautiful beings in our lives and helping
38:07
to love them better. You know, I think it was, I
38:10
think it was Linda Hall that said the majority of cats that
38:13
are returned to a shelter and that are euthanized are because
38:18
of this issue and, and believe. And you, you guys know I.
38:22
Would never be like don't you think it's just time to rehome
38:27
the troublemaker I no, we want we want to understand and we
38:32
want to take you guys on this journey with us because we know
38:35
that you have beautiful beings in your lives that you love that
38:39
you have tried everything the herbs, the crystals, the CBD,
38:42
the behaviorists that communicate this is gonna be
38:47
about to me this is I'm putting myself in the mindset of what it
38:51
was to transition Pooh bear over to raw food.
38:56
This is about my commitment, my commitment to the issue.
39:01
It isn't about trying something for two or three days or even 2
39:04
weeks and being like, well, that didn't work, throw it out.
39:08
Yeah, I am. We are committed.
39:10
We are committed and we're going to do this so.
39:13
And we have sought professional. Correct.
39:16
So the big tease about this entire thing is that what we
39:22
have decided to do is we have partnered with a feline
39:27
behaviorist who will remain unnamed for the moment,
39:31
anonymous, anonymous. And we and we are 1000% sure we
39:38
can get this under control, especially with our commitment,
39:40
right mostly and always be because we are committed to
39:44
this. We just did.
39:45
We just did a small consult like, you know, the issues that
39:49
we're going through, blah, blah, blah, the different dynamics,
39:51
whatever. And it, I have to say, even like
39:54
after that, it felt, it felt like I have faith in this now.
40:00
Like I have faith in this now. Yeah, there is going to be an
40:04
answer. We are going to get this under
40:06
control for the first time in A and.
40:08
Not just so that we don't worry about Jay's face being peed on
40:12
at night, but so that our babies all feel comfortable and safe
40:16
and secure. And we can all live peacefully
40:19
together in our home. That's the goal, right?
40:21
We all want to just live harmoniously together.
40:25
So. So we have partnered with a
40:29
feline behaviorist that we are very excited.
40:32
We have tasked her on the journey of helping us fix this
40:36
issue. And when that moment comes,
40:41
which is going to come very soon, we're going to take you on
40:46
this journey with us. But but we will also be bringing
40:51
her on as a team member of Two Crazy Cat Ladies.
40:55
To help be a resource for all of us.
40:58
And that's one of those from the universe that we did not know
41:02
was coming when the other things were falling through and they
41:07
they weren't actually happening the way that we thought that the
41:10
way that we had planned them. So to bring it back around right
41:13
the way that we had planned all of these awesome things for
41:17
2025, turns out sometimes the universe has a better plan for
41:24
us. And says this is what you need
41:25
to be focusing. This is what you actually.
41:27
Need to this is actually where the right.
41:29
Now is needed. The product will still be
41:32
launched. It's.
41:32
Just going to take a it's on hold for now In the meantime, I
41:36
think that this is a great reminder, especially to us.
41:39
We get excited, you know, 2025, our 10 year anniversary, we want
41:43
to bring all this awesome stuff to the table and we want to
41:46
share and, and meanwhile we've been dealing with this issue as
41:51
because it has escalated for some time and we talk about it
41:55
on our lives and we talk about it Q&A and we we don't focus on
41:59
it. Right.
42:00
And it's. Time to focus on it.
42:02
We don't. We just.
42:03
Mitigate. It's time to take our own damn
42:05
advice and recognize that this behavioral issue that our babies
42:11
are dealing with isn't just about an inconvenience for us.
42:15
It is messing. It is bringing the vibe of
42:22
everything in our family down it.
42:25
We know that we're dealing with issues where our cats are not
42:30
comfortable with each other all the time that we have yes, I get
42:35
we have like the community cats and that we I would love I'm I'm
42:39
looking forward to learning ways that we can help mitigate that
42:42
or help control that in a way where our our, our, our cats are
42:46
turning on each other because these cats are coming right up
42:49
in their faces. We're committed Friday.
42:55
It's Friday is moving about in the drawer.
42:59
Now she's trying to dig her way out.
43:00
Yeah. And Laura Lee just said this.
43:03
Certain things had to fall through to make room for
43:06
something better. And that is very well said
43:10
because this work that we're doing with our babies is not the
43:15
only opportunity that has emerged while we are.
43:21
Can you guys see? Hi.
43:24
Here she comes. You guys be nice to each other.
43:26
Come here, girl. There you go.
43:30
Friday. Can you get it?
43:31
Can you get girl? Girl, my love girl.
43:36
We have other things that are coming up, like literally in a
43:41
few months. Oh my God, like so many awesome
43:45
things. So guys, just stay tuned.
43:47
Hit that follow button, hit that, hit that subscribe button
43:51
or whatever buttons you got to hit to to stay in, to stay in
43:56
touch. Because we really, really do
43:58
have some exciting things coming up that we cannot wait to share
44:03
with you. Exciting things that are really
44:05
going to impact the entire dynamic of our family, your
44:10
families in ways that I just think in the hustle and bustle
44:15
of life these days, we kind of overlook and we don't think
44:19
necessarily about the ways that we can enrich our cats lives in
44:23
a way that brings them the kind of happiness and health that
44:28
follows from the happiness. And Judith said, I bet it's the
44:31
spoon that's holding up the new product launch, right?
44:35
There is no spoon. There is no spoon.
44:38
Thank you, Carla. So yeah, I hope you know, if you
44:43
guys are just starting to deal with an issue with your cats,
44:45
ping around, please go back and listen to some of the tips that
44:48
have just been magic for us in the past.
44:52
And if you guys are in the situation that we're in where we
44:55
think we have tried literally everything, stick with us.
45:00
Because you know, for a time, like Jay said it, we, we kind of
45:05
felt like this. We're just going to accept this.
45:06
Maybe it's just the season. This is the way life is right
45:09
now. Maybe.
45:09
When they get older. Right.
45:11
Maybe they'll stop. And instead now we are focusing
45:14
on no, this is everyone is not happy.
45:17
And if everyone's not happy, the stress of not being happy, we'll
45:22
snowball into health. We have to deal with this and
45:26
not just for the environment because we're going through too
45:29
many paper towels. Correct.
45:31
OK or pea pads. We want Friday is rubbing all
45:35
over us right now. It's like she knows.
45:37
She's like oh thank God. Please get to the bottom of
45:41
this. So that's going to wrap up this
45:43
episode of two Crazy Cat Ladies. Or no, not 2 Crazy Cat ladies.
45:48
Back in the closet with the 2 Crazy Cat ladies.
45:51
I drink a little bit too much. Wine.
45:53
Apparently already, but thank you guys so much for joining us.
45:56
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46:03
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46:05
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46:12
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Resource. I think it's going to save
46:18
lives. Resources save families.
46:20
Yep, this is. Yeah, I'm.
46:23
I'm Laura Lee said it. You know, some things fell
46:26
through to make room for what needed to be handled right now.
46:30
And I'm glad that the universe helps us take focus of it.
46:34
And our cats are always our best teachers.
46:36
So follow along. Yep, stay grateful, learn,
46:39
share, grow. We love you guys so much and we
46:42
will see you next week. Love you guys, cheers.