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A Wholehearted New Year | a conversation with Amy Wicks and Katye Riselli · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: Hi friends, welcome back to the Simply Wholehearted Podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: It means so much to have you choose to take our conversation along with you today.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm Amy Wicks, your host, and here at Simply Wholehearted, we provide perspective to define your purpose and create a plan to live a wholehearted, intentional life.
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SPEAKER_01: Like you, we desire to love the Lord with all of our heart, soul, mind, and strength.
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SPEAKER_01: So you're welcome to join us as we share inspiring stories and simple ideas from friends as they pursue life on purpose, armed with plans for making the ordinary life extraordinary.
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SPEAKER_01: I want to give one last mention of thanks to Christy Knuckles and her team for allowing us to use her amazing music this advent season.
0:40
SPEAKER_01: Her words and her music have been in my earbuds for a little over 20 years now.
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SPEAKER_01: And if you've been a listener for a while, you know I've talked about her podcast and her last couple of albums, which have been our morning soundtracks.
0:51
SPEAKER_01: Seriously, y'all.
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SPEAKER_01: If you haven't yet listened to the whole Christmas album, The Thrill of Hope, you must go download it now.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's not too late because I find myself worshiping and celebrating along and I've yet to tire of its beauty.
1:05
SPEAKER_01: And this is track seven.
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SPEAKER_01: And even though Christmas was a couple days ago, I just had to use the song one more time.
1:13
SPEAKER_01: Well, today's my birthday, so we're gonna do one of my favorite things and talk about planning and dreaming for the year ahead.
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SPEAKER_01: For years now, my birthday request is to go out to breakfast and do some dreaming for the new year.
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SPEAKER_01: I know this was coming up, and honestly, I've been a little overwhelmed by all the great opportunities and all the work ahead in 2019.
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SPEAKER_01: But I'm going to be sharing a timely revelation, some good counsel I've received, and I hope you'll find it as helpful as you dream and make decisions, the big and small ones, for the year ahead.
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SPEAKER_01: Katie Roselli is joining us again today, and if you've been tuning in to the Simply Wholehearted podcast since the summer, then you've met Katie Roselli before on episode 59 for our Independence Day special.
1:57
SPEAKER_01: And she was last week's guest on episode 78.
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SPEAKER_01: Not only is her resume impressive because she actually worked in the White House and other prominent positions on Capitol Hill, but she has a spiritual depth and perspective that I personally greatly esteem.
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SPEAKER_01: Katie has been a steady voice behind the simple whole-hearted scenes, helping me sort out direction, content, and the many dreams we have for the future.
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SPEAKER_01: Her friendship is such a gift to me, as well as her wholehearted approach in championing what the world is doing in this forum.
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SPEAKER_01: You'll get to hear a glimpse of how Katie has discerned how to give her best yes for the opportunities presented to her, and the brave no's which come along with those.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm certain you will gain wise perspective as you decide how to make 2018 your most wholehearted year yet.
2:42
SPEAKER_03: It's fun to do live together.
2:44
SPEAKER_01: It really is fun.
2:45
SPEAKER_01: I appreciate that.
2:46
SPEAKER_01: I was listening to the Banning Leafshir's podcast with Annie F.
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SPEAKER_01: Downs.
2:53
SPEAKER_01: And he was he was at our church at Radiant Church, KC, less than two months ago.
3:00
SPEAKER_01: And he had a very prophetic, awesome sermon.
3:04
SPEAKER_01: And he is the pastor at Jesus Culture in Sacramento, California.
3:08
SPEAKER_01: So anyway, he and David kind of switched spots.
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SPEAKER_01: David's our our lead pastor, and David just went out last week and preached for Jesus Culture.
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SPEAKER_01: Beginning came out, I don't know, six weeks ago.
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SPEAKER_01: And I I had heard of him before, but the sermon was just so it was just so spot on perfect.
3:24
SPEAKER_01: And I was excited because Annie F.
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SPEAKER_01: Downs, anyone who knows me, I love listening to her podcasts.
3:28
SPEAKER_01: And I'm so far behind.
3:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm so far behind in podcasts.
3:31
SPEAKER_01: Ain't no shame.
3:32
SPEAKER_01: You just, you know, listen to what you can.
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SPEAKER_01: So I wanted to skip to that one because I wanted to hear what he had to say.
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SPEAKER_01: It was perfectly prophetic for my life as well.
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SPEAKER_01: Annie was kind of asking who are his pastors in his life and who who like not it shouldn't even use the word accountable, but who pastors him.
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SPEAKER_01: And as a pastor of a large congregation and a leader for a lot of different things, who can speak into his life?
3:57
SPEAKER_01: And so you just talked about the fathers in his life, but a lot of the peer friendships and how those are so meaningful and important and valuable to him.
4:05
SPEAKER_01: And I immediately, you know, you were one of those who popped to mind and I thought, yes, getting to do life with Katie, even though oftentimes it's at a distance and through Voxer or through moments like this, um, it is profoundly um shaping really my life right now and how I um discerning the Lord's voice and how I'm just you know processing things and um and also confirming and denying what the Lord is speaking.
4:33
SPEAKER_01: And I I just I was like amening on the stair stepper as I was listening because I was like, yes, yes, Banny, thank you for saying it.
4:40
SPEAKER_01: He just articulated it in such a way that that was really great, really encouraging of going, yes, we have father-mother figures in our life that are are absolutely important, and then we have the peer, and I I think that the value that he he gave it by saying it is a representation of how teachable you are.
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SPEAKER_01: And especially if you're willing to invite voices that you're not always going to agree with in a way of a meaning that they're gonna challenge you and they're gonna make sure that you really are following the will of God for your life and you're going back to the scripture and confirming the direction that you're going in scripture.
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SPEAKER_01: So I don't know, anyway, that just you popped in my mind when I heard that.
5:23
SPEAKER_01: I was like, yes, that was so good.
5:24
SPEAKER_01: So that was one of the things that actually happened.
5:26
SPEAKER_01: Um, I I got to work out coincidingly so that like you know, win win win.
5:32
SPEAKER_03: I sole care.
5:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And then so Spencer and I, and along those lines of what beginning was saying, so Spencer and I have an older couple who go to our church who are involved in our lives for our marriage.
5:43
SPEAKER_01: And we've invited them in to just give us perspective and to help us through places that we might be stuck in as a couple.
5:50
SPEAKER_01: Um, things that we don't maybe we can't figure out how to communicate about well.
5:55
SPEAKER_01: Um, because not we don't always fight well, right?
5:58
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we'd all like to say we fight well, but we don't do it because, you know, we're not perfect.
6:04
SPEAKER_01: And it was just, it was such a great, um, it was just interesting because kind of what we were talking about yesterday and kind of a place that I was stuck and a place where we were stuck, we brought it to them and they had such amazing perspective that honestly, like they cut through kind of all that mess.
6:24
SPEAKER_01: You know, we kind of get clouded and we think this is the issue.
6:27
SPEAKER_01: And they were able to just go straight to the heart of it, I think through the power of the Holy Spirit, because it didn't happen until the end of the conversation, and it was one of those that um she said that she said this like really profound thing, and it, you know, ugly cry.
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SPEAKER_01: Like there was no, there was no stopping.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm sitting there like trying, like, I'm biting my lip, trying to not cry.
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SPEAKER_01: But seemingly, if someone had been a fly on the wall, the comment came out of nowhere.
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SPEAKER_01: But it was exactly the message my heart needed to hear.
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SPEAKER_01: It was exactly the truth, God's truth, that I was choosing to not believe, or had been walking in unbelief in that moment.
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SPEAKER_01: And immediately I felt this weight lifted off my shoulders and this peace and this rest that I really that that the heart of it that we were kind of talking about that I was needing, I needed some peace and I needed some rest as we head into this new year and as we're planning and as we're dreaming.
7:29
SPEAKER_01: It was just amazing.
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SPEAKER_03: And that's awesome.
7:33
SPEAKER_01: I think um I won't get I can't get super specific because partly I think this message is for everyone.
7:42
SPEAKER_01: And I I kind of I even wanted to pivot and say the first part of this podcast, I sort of imagine, um, is gonna be a little bit more applicable for those who are really trying to achieve something.
7:54
SPEAKER_01: And the second part of this podcast is gonna be for those who maybe need a little bit more clarity and encouragement to accomplish some things.
8:04
SPEAKER_03: Um and I think that's sort of like the first, you know, this first part, you and I know what specifically goals and plans that you are wrestling, um, and they're real tangible and laid out and measure measurable already to an extent.
8:19
SPEAKER_03: Um and the second half of our conversation being more of the what exactly am I, what goals am I setting for next year?
8:28
SPEAKER_01: Yep, totally.
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SPEAKER_01: And how how do I approach, how do I thoughtfully approach it, how do I wholeheartedly approach it?
8:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, because the reality is most of us are you know are working towards something in our life, therefore we're waiting.
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SPEAKER_01: And waiting doesn't always mean sitting still.
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SPEAKER_01: It means sometimes we're actively forward pursuing something.
8:52
SPEAKER_01: In fact, the other thing that happened, there is a lot that happened.
8:58
SPEAKER_01: Caroline Williams, our yoga master.
9:02
SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, her the Holy Advent.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, the Holy Advent, her new video has come out on Friday morning, and today was the last day of her series, her advent series was the fourth video, and it was about Anna and Simeon.
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SPEAKER_01: They both had been waiting actively at the temple, worshiping, praying, seeking the Lord, reading the scriptures, and they waited.
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SPEAKER_01: Anna had been in the temple for 84 years.
9:30
SPEAKER_03: Now remind me where this is.
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SPEAKER_01: This is Luke chapter two.
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SPEAKER_03: Luke chapter two.
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SPEAKER_01: So Jesus is born, so this is after Christmas.
9:40
SPEAKER_01: This is eight days after, actually, because he's being taken to the temple to be circumcised.
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SPEAKER_03: That's right.
9:46
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
9:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So I think it's just so perfectly timed as we're talking about, you know, still how the Advent story, I'm using quotes, Advent story still applies to us after the Christmas day.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh anyway, so I I just like it was just this beautiful reminded me of the posture that we're to have, like Anna and Simeon, who were just who were waiting.
10:09
SPEAKER_01: They were actively pursuing the Lord.
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SPEAKER_01: They weren't, um, but they were waiting in a believing way, like they were believing and expecting.
10:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure they probably had a different timeline in mine.
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SPEAKER_01: Surely.
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SPEAKER_01: They knew there was a promised Messiah.
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SPEAKER_01: They knew that's what they were waiting for.
10:27
SPEAKER_01: Anna probably didn't think it was going to be 84 years before she saw that.
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SPEAKER_03: Someone, you know, that promise that they knew of who would, you know, it was they didn't receive it firsthand, so it was some someone gave it to them.
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SPEAKER_03: It was sold to them, and so they passed it on, and surely at some point they were like, is this a rumor?
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Totally.
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SPEAKER_03: Is this just a story?
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SPEAKER_03: Like, is there truth in this?
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SPEAKER_03: Because it doesn't feel or look true in the moment.
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SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And so for me, when I combine the story of Anna and Simeon, when I listened to Banning's words, and when I was really, I really took it to prayer.
11:14
SPEAKER_01: I mean, after we talked, that was kind of your your number one thing.
11:17
SPEAKER_01: Well, first of all, you're just supposed to pause and pray.
11:19
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's your admin mission to me.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, like, hey, girlfriend, pause and pray, and let's see what the Lord is gonna do.
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SPEAKER_01: So last night in the conversation and just in the general terms that I could give, it was one I realized I had the revelation through the Holy Spirit, is one that I had mistakenly put a timeline to what I know the Lord is leading me to do.
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SPEAKER_01: And I placed the timeline in my own human terms, and you know, the whole like a day is a year, a year is a day to God, it's so true, and so he has definitely given promises that he is currently working out in my life and I am actively seeking him on, but it just was that reminder to rest and his timing, and that is perfect, and it seems so trite.
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SPEAKER_01: I know we hear that all the time, but we have to get our mind around that and our heart postured around that, and then the other thing was that I had let some um stinking thinking come back in my mind that was surprising to me because I wasn't seeing it as stinking thinking.
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SPEAKER_01: I had taken a burden that wasn't mine to bear.
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SPEAKER_01: Part of my goals have been tied up on this burden that just seemed like it was actually maybe even a burden that has sort of subconsciously been played into by the culture, and I I it was like I'm like, I can't even believe that that's what I had taken on.
12:47
SPEAKER_01: And it may be even generational in my family.
12:49
SPEAKER_01: So there's some more like unpacking with the Lord.
12:51
SPEAKER_01: I was doing a little bit of that this morning, writing it out and going, okay, Lord, what do you what do you have to say?
12:56
SPEAKER_01: It just kind of woke me with that, like, hey, maybe there's some generational element to this of praying through and just you know, to work through and have revelation on.
13:05
SPEAKER_01: So for me, it was just like, hey, let's let's go back to the word of God.
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SPEAKER_01: What does he actually say about this?
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SPEAKER_01: What is his purpose and his intent for me, even in the midst of goal planning and dreaming and all that sort of stuff?
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SPEAKER_01: And even if I had had taken this idea and I hadn't really ever taken this idea and submitted it before the Lord, I had just gone, oh, that's a good idea.
13:27
SPEAKER_01: That makes sense.
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SPEAKER_01: That's something I'd really want to do.
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SPEAKER_01: Now when I look at it and I unpack it, I go, you know what?
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SPEAKER_01: The Lord might actually have that for me.
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SPEAKER_01: The Lord might actually do that through me.
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SPEAKER_01: But because I took it as like my own idea and this is the way it should be, and this is the timeline it should happen.
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SPEAKER_01: He's like, hey, wait a minute.
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SPEAKER_01: Let's go back to what do I have for you?
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SPEAKER_01: What is it that I want for you?
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SPEAKER_01: What is in your best interest here?
13:55
SPEAKER_01: And what I was taking upon myself, it didn't fit any of those.
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SPEAKER_01: It was a good idea, and maybe that's what the culture tells me is possible or how it should be or what it could look like.
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SPEAKER_01: And instead, so that was shaping it more than God's word and what he is he's telling me through you know the Holy Spirit.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know what's really funny and interesting.
14:18
SPEAKER_03: You're saying that.
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SPEAKER_03: And we've been studying this fall, we've been studying in our Bible study, we've been studying um the people of the promised land, and we were studying in first Samuel recently we've been studying Saul.
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SPEAKER_03: And um, one of the things over the last several weeks we've talked about is how Saul initially starts out really well, uh, and he inquires of the Lord and he asks.
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SPEAKER_03: And I mean, so he's anointed by Samuel, and and he's come forward, and Samuel has told the people, hey, this is the king.
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SPEAKER_03: Um, but as he goes on, he has first he has great military success, he looks the part, but as he continues down the road, he quits inquiring of the Lord at every step.
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SPEAKER_03: And so that's um, and eventually, where Samuel has to tell us all the Lord has rejected you as king, he's rejected him because he doesn't he wants a king who has a heart after his, and so he wants a king who is inquiring at every step of the way, saying, Is this, did I hear this?
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SPEAKER_03: Is this what you asked of me?
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SPEAKER_03: And so that you can start off in a good spot, a good idea or even a God-given idea.
15:35
SPEAKER_03: Um, but as you morph, it morphs, you know, through culture or whatever, um, it doesn't stay like that.
15:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think, and just really the last 24 hours, the Lord was just really kind of reminding me and taking me back to it, which is so hard because I want to say, I've got this thing, and I don't need to relearn this.
15:57
SPEAKER_01: And of course I know that I know all those things to be true, but am I really living it?
16:02
SPEAKER_01: I believe them, but am I really living it?
16:05
SPEAKER_01: And I even you wrote a piece recently that I thought was so good.
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SPEAKER_01: It was just about looking at the year ahead and flourishing and what does it look like to flourish, even if you feel like you're in a desert wasteland.
16:17
SPEAKER_01: And you you were talking about specifically, and this kind of ties it back into my stinking thinking, I like to call it, but you were talking about because I believed something, how that shaped how you were going to flourish or not flourish, and how your family was going to flourish or not flourish.
16:38
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17:21
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, we went to this one place and um we left a place we really loved and um it was wonderful.
17:33
SPEAKER_03: And then we got to this next place, and um I uh at surface, you know, from the day we got there, it just didn't feel the same and it wasn't didn't feel like it was going to be great.
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SPEAKER_03: And um somewhere in the first few weeks I realized that the way I was approaching this second, this next assignment was really different because um when we went to the first place, well, which wasn't the first place, but when I went to the place we loved, we believed it was where we were supposed to go.
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SPEAKER_03: We expected, we expected to find a church, we expected to have a wonderful house, we expected all this goodness.
18:07
SPEAKER_03: Um, and then I found myself going in this new place that was not the weather I liked.
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SPEAKER_03: Um going, well, have I just finally found the place that God doesn't go?
18:20
SPEAKER_03: Like, are there even gonna be churches here?
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SPEAKER_03: Like, do people have Jesus up in this place?
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SPEAKER_03: And that was ridiculous because there isn't a place that isn't.
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SPEAKER_03: It's just gonna look different or feel different.
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SPEAKER_03: And the difference was that I didn't believe or I needed to clarify, like, well, what do I believe?
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SPEAKER_03: Do I believe that God goes before us and with us and into everything?
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SPEAKER_03: Or do I believe that I'm somehow able in my humanness to go out of his will and suddenly be off on my own reservation?
18:52
SPEAKER_03: Um, well, no, I don't really believe that.
18:55
SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
18:56
SPEAKER_03: I believe the promises that say he goes before us, he walks beside us, he's our rear guard.
19:03
SPEAKER_03: I believe that um the promises in the Old Testament that say he will give us every place we set our foot are yes and amen in Christ.
19:12
SPEAKER_03: So there's there's this element of what do you believe in that moment?
19:19
SPEAKER_03: And then instead of looking at your circumstances or you know, acting out of emotion, deciding to act out of the belief system and see life dictated by that.
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SPEAKER_01: Isn't it funny how we as humans we especially even when it comes to goal setting and dreaming and making our plans and all that sort of stuff, we well, not only do we take God out of the equation and he should be the center of it, but we put so much weight on our decisions as if what we decide can actually overthrow God as king.
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SPEAKER_01: And we we put like all the weight, you know, on our shoulders for when some of us or laughably we think we're gonna just screw it up to where he can't fix it.
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SPEAKER_01: But the thing is, is when we're actively seeking the Lord and we're choosing to pursue his purpose for our life and we're making him center, sure, we might make a bad decision, but even if it's a bad decision, it's not beyond his grace and his ability to remedy it and still move through this process and still work while we're even maybe in a different place than you know, then maybe where he had originally intended, he can still get us back to the place that he wanted for us.
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SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, it's just those tiny little moments of going stopping when I'm feeling the overwhelm or stopping, like the moment some of the things that for me that trigger that I should probably evaluate what's bubbling is when I have any kind of um extreme words like never or always.
20:58
SPEAKER_03: Right.
20:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that almost every time I find myself saying it is always like this.
21:04
SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_03: It's not true, or it's never gonna happen.
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SPEAKER_03: I can never, I all I always fail, or I'm always this, or I can't do this, or it never goes my way.
21:18
SPEAKER_03: And you know, those like qualifying words are usually a good chance, a good opportunity to go, do I really believe that?
21:26
SPEAKER_03: And sometimes it's true.
21:27
SPEAKER_03: It's like, you know, I mean, there have been points where I've joked with people, I'm like, I can never lose weight.
21:33
SPEAKER_03: I never meet any goal on weight loss that I set.
21:37
SPEAKER_03: And then I step back and go, well, yeah, I kind of do believe that, but do I believe that just because I keep living it like that?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, or because I believe that, am I living it repeatedly?
21:50
SPEAKER_03: Right.
21:51
SPEAKER_03: And do I really think, you know, any goal like that?
21:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, it's this it's this tricky thing, but if you go back to that little one point of saying, But if you change your if you change your thoughts, you change your lives.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:04
SPEAKER_01: That was one of the key things we were talking about last night.
22:07
SPEAKER_01: One, you know, they were just kind of pointing out, well, it sounds like your narrative is you never have enough time.
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SPEAKER_01: You need more hours in the day.
22:18
SPEAKER_01: There's too much to do.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, that that's actually you're beginning, you've believed it.
22:24
SPEAKER_01: When that's really not true, if you're walking in step of the Holy Spirit and if he's really guiding and directing you to these things, he's not going to ask you or give you more than you can do.
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SPEAKER_01: He's not going to require that you do more than the 24 hours that he's given you.
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SPEAKER_01: He's not going to make it impossible to complete the assignments that he's put before you.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, it might feel hard and it might stretch you and it might enlarge your capacity even, but you know, part of the the thinking process was playing into the overwhelm and even into as I look ahead for 2019, what what can I say yes to and what can I say no to?
23:04
SPEAKER_01: And I know you have a lot of wisdom.
23:07
SPEAKER_01: You've lived this out for several years.
23:09
SPEAKER_01: And we did kind of tee up last week where we're like, okay, you know, we're gonna say yes purposefully.
23:15
SPEAKER_01: I'd love to have you share a little bit about that.
23:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, I think some of it is um, there are those points where in that same time period I looked at it and I was like, this is just too much.
23:27
SPEAKER_03: There's too much, we're maxed out, and there's no margin.
23:31
SPEAKER_03: Um and I was I'm a yes person habitually.
23:36
SPEAKER_03: Um there are folks who joke because I for years, right?
23:40
SPEAKER_03: For years and years and years.
23:42
SPEAKER_03: My answer, if I didn't say no, I said maybe.
23:45
SPEAKER_03: Um, and um one of my friends shortly after Mark and I got married, she laughed at me and said, Katie Katie, Katie, don't you know?
23:56
SPEAKER_03: Maybe is just another word for yes.
23:59
SPEAKER_03: That's what my kids think.
24:01
SPEAKER_03: I was like, no, I said maybe think about it.
24:04
SPEAKER_03: And she said no.
24:06
SPEAKER_03: If you are gonna think about it, you tell someone no.
24:09
SPEAKER_03: Because then when you come back, after you've thought about it and you've changed your mind, you're a hero.
24:18
SPEAKER_03: And when you give them a yes, it's excellent.
24:21
SPEAKER_03: Wait a minute, this is revolutionary.
24:25
SPEAKER_03: And so, mind you, she told me this more than a decade ago, and it took several years for me to realize that that was that it was okay to say no.
24:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, um, but it got to a point where I had to say no because there wasn't any margin.
24:41
SPEAKER_03: I was not happy, and there have really been seasons where I've been not healthy, um, that the stress has manifested in my life, either in sleep or in in true health.
24:52
SPEAKER_03: Um, but one particular year, um, after this maxed out December, a girlfriend of mine just started, she said, I'm just saying no for January.
25:03
SPEAKER_03: She's like, I'm just gonna say no to all of it.
25:06
SPEAKER_03: And she did.
25:07
SPEAKER_03: And I watched her, I sat back and she and I were so similar.
25:12
SPEAKER_03: And I was first I was floored.
25:15
SPEAKER_03: I was like, can you do that?
25:17
SPEAKER_03: Do you get to say no there?
25:19
SPEAKER_03: Like, what's gonna happen?
25:20
SPEAKER_03: Like, what what about disappointing people?
25:23
SPEAKER_03: And she drew these lines and said, if it's for my husband or my children, and I it's I can do it, the answer can be yes, but beyond that, so she just started saying no.
25:36
SPEAKER_01: Wow, that's awesome.
25:38
SPEAKER_03: And I went, can you do that?
25:40
SPEAKER_03: And then I and then I watched her and I started cheering and I said, Yes.
25:45
SPEAKER_03: In fact, let me talk about how you're doing this, let me write about how you're saying this, and I'm gonna do it too.
25:52
SPEAKER_03: And I think I decided like three days into January, oh yeah, this looks like a good idea.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
25:58
SPEAKER_03: And we're gonna have just say no January.
26:00
SPEAKER_03: And so we would text each other back and forth, and she would say, so and so asked me for this, and I said, hashtag just say no January.
26:11
SPEAKER_03: And then it got, and we're like, yes.
26:14
SPEAKER_03: And then when either one of us, and it really took owning it for myself that I don't like to disappoint people.
26:20
SPEAKER_03: Right.
26:21
SPEAKER_03: I want to be dependable and available, but there's a measure of realizing that saying yes to everything doesn't make me dependable, it actually makes me unreliable.
26:33
SPEAKER_03: Ooh, ouch.
26:35
SPEAKER_03: Because I can't do all of the yeses.
26:37
SPEAKER_03: And so then does my yes, is my yes as is meaningful?
26:41
SPEAKER_03: Because if someone going, uh, she said yes, but she said yes to everyone, she's gonna be late.
26:50
SPEAKER_03: And so then what's expected of me is not actually my best.
26:53
SPEAKER_02: Right.
26:54
SPEAKER_03: Um, so for the month, for me, it was sometimes having this accountability of saying, I said I was gonna join her in this.
27:03
SPEAKER_03: We said we were gonna all do this and sort of take our life back.
27:07
SPEAKER_03: And it wasn't hard things to say no to, and it wasn't life, it wasn't earth shattering, it was just the obligation or the the um I should.
27:18
SPEAKER_03: And so along the way, I started saying, well, let's dump the shoulds.
27:22
SPEAKER_03: Start really defining specifically what I'm gonna do or I want to do.
27:29
SPEAKER_03: And that's really funny too, because along the way, once you've started carving that margin and you're like, I can say no, yeah, I'm allowed to.
27:39
SPEAKER_03: And it and saying no gives me a better yes, be and it makes me what I thought I was being by saying yes.
27:46
SPEAKER_03: I'm more reliable because I'm doing what I said I would do when I said I would do it.
27:53
SPEAKER_03: Um, instead of ambitiously trying to do all things all the time for all the people.
27:59
SPEAKER_01: Which goes back to that is never what the Lord or Holy Spirit requires of us or is expecting of us.
28:06
SPEAKER_01: He does want us to be his hands and feet, but we're not Jesus, we're not God, we're not omnipresent.
28:16
SPEAKER_01: So there's one of me, yes, and I have the same hours in the day that you do.
28:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
28:23
SPEAKER_03: I have yet to figure out how to tell the sun to stand still in the sky.
28:27
SPEAKER_03: I know.
28:28
SPEAKER_01: Me, me too.
28:29
SPEAKER_01: I've tried.
28:30
SPEAKER_01: So for 2019, because you've done the just say no January for a little while in your life.
28:37
SPEAKER_01: What does the Just Say No January 2019 look like for Miss Katie?
28:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so um every year it's a little since then it's been a little different.
28:49
SPEAKER_03: Um, that first year we decided at the end of January we needed to extend it.
28:55
SPEAKER_03: And it was really me because I my birthday's in February, and so I felt like, well, we're just gonna have forget it February.
29:03
SPEAKER_03: Like, forget about it.
29:05
SPEAKER_03: Um, and we continued to do that all year, um, as much as possible, but even not as consistently, but it really for me it shaped that whole year shaped uh an a different mindset of saying, no, that doesn't get my time and attention, or yes, that does.
29:24
SPEAKER_03: Um, and so a no to some things meant a yes to others, and that's really what January 19 looks like too this year.
29:32
SPEAKER_03: Um I've said yes in this the fall of this year.
29:36
SPEAKER_03: I've given some yeses that are very um they're hard and hard and fast, those are not changeable, and so that yes means that in January of 19, I'm gonna say no to some things.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:49
SPEAKER_03: Right.
29:50
SPEAKER_03: And so I'm gonna carve out time to complete that yes because I gave it.
29:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:56
SPEAKER_03: Um, and then alongside that, I know that every January and February, we just have a little bit slower pace.
30:04
SPEAKER_03: There's a little bit less going on, we don't have as many outside activities.
30:10
SPEAKER_03: So making the most of that time.
30:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, whether that's um doing things that don't get done during the Christmas holidays, no, um, enjoying the weather, um, whether it's, hey, let's go ice skating because there's ice skating ranks.
30:27
SPEAKER_03: Yes, that's not doesn't have to just be Christmas.
30:30
SPEAKER_01: Right, totally.
30:31
SPEAKER_01: It's true, because January we can finally breathe.
30:34
SPEAKER_01: And we talked about last week, there's kind of maybe those things that we thought we had to jam-pack into December.
30:41
SPEAKER_01: And no, they can actually be just as meaningful if we do them in January and February, and there's probably a whole lot more breathing room for those things.
30:49
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I think January looks like that, and it also looks like um adopting some of the habits that you and I that I've picked up from you over the last year.
30:58
SPEAKER_03: Uh, I think naturally um January and August, July, August are real natural chances to sort of restart.
31:09
SPEAKER_03: And so maybe something you said no to at the beginning of a school year in January you can say yes or flip-flop it.
31:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
31:17
SPEAKER_03: You know, yes, I said I would be in kindergarten once a week to volunteer.
31:22
SPEAKER_03: Um, that's an that's an opportunity that I can evaluate in January.
31:27
SPEAKER_03: I probably won't change it, but I might change the day.
31:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:30
SPEAKER_03: Um and I also think that that's a chance to sort of restart, you know, in a bite-sized, tangible way.
31:39
SPEAKER_03: Because sometimes setting those goals for an entire year is a little bit daunting.
31:43
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
31:44
SPEAKER_03: Um, and then when I don't make it through the end of January, I just throw it all out for the rest of the year.
31:51
SPEAKER_01: And that's no good.
31:52
SPEAKER_01: We don't want that.
31:53
SPEAKER_03: So, so some of it is really um what I taking what I learned in 18 about discipline and understanding goals and shifting my perspective into approaching it in a realistic way, you know, and some of that is learning that my internal expectation of something I would probably let slide.
32:16
SPEAKER_03: But if I told you and asked you to hold me accountable to it, right, then I'm more likely to meet that goal.
32:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:23
SPEAKER_03: And so um, one of those is going, okay, I know I do better at short-term goals, like, so why don't I take it three months at a whack?
32:32
SPEAKER_02: Right.
32:32
SPEAKER_03: And so I'm gonna look at my calendar from January through March, and then from April through June.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: Yep, absolutely.
32:41
SPEAKER_01: So, really, your just say no January is giving your best yes for the beginning of the year to just begin again, a wholeheartedly begin again.
32:53
SPEAKER_01: And you talked about the three months out of year, and I would just like to point out I have my brilliant life planner right here.
33:00
SPEAKER_01: Look at the box, like how fun it's really beautiful, it's gorgeous, and I am not a flowery type, but I'm not yeah, but it's pretty, it's so pretty, it's gorgeous, and so anyway, I'm excited to start planning on all of that.
33:16
SPEAKER_01: And you know, like that's my big thing.
33:18
SPEAKER_01: I've spoken to a lot of Mops groups, or even just like mom Bible studies about how to plan, what it looks like to plan.
33:28
SPEAKER_01: You know, for some of us, we're really like we have these big dreams and goals, and we're we're looking to make them happen and we're looking to move forward.
33:37
SPEAKER_01: But for most of my friends listening, and for the women that I'm speaking to on a regular basis, I have a you know, lot a mom's group who meets regularly in my home every week.
33:50
SPEAKER_01: We're we're kind of dialing some of those big dreams down and we're we're just trying to figure out how to get the laundry done.
33:57
SPEAKER_01: You know, the reality of making sure healthy meals happen, you know, we get to the library once a week and return books before they're overdue.
34:07
SPEAKER_01: You know, they're just some like, you know, real simple things.
34:11
SPEAKER_01: Take a shower.
34:12
SPEAKER_01: Take a shower, yes, and get a workout in, you know, because we like to and it makes us feel good and it releases all those, you know, the oxytocin and endorphins and all that good stuff.
34:23
SPEAKER_01: So what you brought up there of the three months at a time, I that what really started my three months at a time was the whole super summer challenge thing all those years ago.
34:32
SPEAKER_01: Because my mother-in-law had taught me this super summer challenge, and I started when my kids were really little.
34:38
SPEAKER_01: And so, what's summer when you don't go to school?
34:40
SPEAKER_01: And you know, that's like you know, really indefinite, but it's every day.
34:45
SPEAKER_01: It is, it's every day.
34:47
SPEAKER_01: Winter breaks, spring break, summer is every day.
34:50
SPEAKER_01: We had applicable the whole time.
34:53
SPEAKER_01: It is because we had no preschool, we couldn't afford it.
34:57
SPEAKER_01: I had absolutely no family, I was pregnant again.
35:02
SPEAKER_01: I I was it was yeah, there was nothing but story time as my anchor in that season.
35:07
SPEAKER_01: Life we didn't have any friends, we didn't have community.
35:09
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, the whole super summer challenge Can I just say that you just described a military family when they move into a new neighborhood?
35:17
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I'm sure.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we don't only move in the summer.
35:21
SPEAKER_01: Yes, exactly.
35:22
SPEAKER_01: It's all year long, and so I think the gift of the super summer challenge, one of the many gifts of it, and and this is why I'm you know it sparked so much passion of this intentional perspective and wholehearted perspective, was it it got me to focus on three months, just three months of time to be intentional with my kids, my girls at the time, and we were preparing for a little brother, or actually we didn't know he was a boy.
35:49
SPEAKER_01: We were preparing for another sibling due in August, sometime near at the end.
35:54
SPEAKER_01: And I had this great window of time with him that I'm like, okay, I'm gonna focus in.
35:58
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna build some habits, we're gonna build some things to help prepare for this other sibling and what they're gonna do and their relationship, and I really want to make it meaningful because I'll never get this, you know, chance at it again with just two kids.
36:11
SPEAKER_01: And um, it just caused this shift because suddenly at three months at a glance, I could look at that.
36:17
SPEAKER_01: I wasn't I wasn't looking at a whole year, I wasn't looking at six months, and even within those three months, I could look really intentionally each month at a time and then every week, and then back it up and even go okay every day.
36:32
SPEAKER_01: But like that three-month span helped me get a little bit of a bigger picture and plan some bigger things, and to be reminded, oh, I've got this person coming and that, and so anyway, it was that that sparked some of my desire to what is now eventually how I share about the super summer challenge or you know, creating a simply summer.
36:53
SPEAKER_01: But then also I created this free little workshop about and I speak about a lot about you know, creating meaningful moments and how you know just walking moms through this calendar of time of like, hey, let's look at the season of time, the three months at time at a time, and figure out how we can one, because we're living in one of two things, either time is going by too fast and we're not getting done what we want to, or two, we keep looking at the clock and it hasn't budged but like five minutes, and you know, it's the witching hour, and daddy's going to be working late, and and you know, and we live in the desert wasteland where we have no family, no friends, and we're got two babies and one on the way, you know, those those kind of moments so that way we don't just waste it, but we can look back and remember it because we made some intention, intentional plans, take in the opportunity to make the most of it with those that we love.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: So because it's my birthday today, and do you know what we do for my birthday?
37:56
SPEAKER_01: Don't you set goals?
37:57
SPEAKER_01: I do.
37:58
SPEAKER_01: I'm such a nerd, and the whole family?
38:01
SPEAKER_01: Well, but we happen to usually be with some sort of family on my birthday because we've visited them.
38:07
SPEAKER_01: Then we have some built-in babysitters, kids get to be watching, they're not babies anymore, but the kids get to hang out and have a really great time.
38:14
SPEAKER_01: And Spencer and I go and we dream, and I just make him eat breakfast because I love breakfast, and I make him listen to all my crazy ideas and my not so crazy ideas, and I make us write things down.
38:28
SPEAKER_01: And there is so much power in that.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: I think there's all these sort of studies that say if you actually write something down, it will happen, but if you don't write it down, it's like it didn't happen, it's not gonna happen.
38:38
SPEAKER_01: Like you can forget about it.
38:40
SPEAKER_01: Like there's just don't even talk about it unless you're gonna write it down.
38:43
SPEAKER_01: So we write it down, we focus on spirit, mind, and body, we focus on what we want to do in our marriage.
38:49
SPEAKER_01: Well, first, you know, like spirit is like what we want to do in our spiritual walk, how we want to grow that, how we want to grow that for ourselves, how we want to grow that for our family, how we want to grow that in our marriage.
38:58
SPEAKER_01: And then we go through all the things, and for our mind is, you know, is learning some intentional things, areas of growth that we need to have happen, whether it's our career or um, you know, just things that you put your mind to.
39:11
SPEAKER_01: And then body, we kind of sum that up as those are the fun things, those are the like trips we want to take, those are the activities we want to do with our family, um, and for us as a couple.
39:22
SPEAKER_01: And we usually we can only get hard concrete dates.
39:27
SPEAKER_01: We can barely get three months out, but this is great because now we've learned after all of these years, hey, that means in at least three months we're gonna do a date again, and we're gonna have to talk about what we did do, and we're gonna talk about what's the next three months.
39:41
SPEAKER_01: And then I've like got guaranteed four dates in a year, which in and of itself is a win, right?
39:47
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
39:47
SPEAKER_03: A A, you've accomplished something, yeah.
39:51
SPEAKER_03: You've set a plan for a measurable amount of time, and you've guaranteed quality conversation, yep, purposefully for four more times.
40:02
SPEAKER_00: Yep, yeah.
40:03
SPEAKER_03: Now, my guess is that once you've written it down, you talk about it along the way.
40:10
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
40:11
SPEAKER_01: I think there's been many times that we had to revisit, or some of them were just it was my opportunity to begin the conversation, knowing that there was no way we were going to be able to resolve it, or something we were gonna have to walk out.
40:23
SPEAKER_01: I mean, there were years that we were trying to figure out what the best church for us was, or we we loved our church, but we didn't have community with our church.
40:31
SPEAKER_01: And so that was something that we revisited several years until finally Radiant Church started in Kansas City, and that was kind of our answer to prayer.
40:40
SPEAKER_01: But the Lord had been stirring that probably for five, a good five years previously of like, hey, we love our church, but we're we're not finding community.
40:48
SPEAKER_01: And so um we were never able to quote unquote solve it.
40:52
SPEAKER_01: We had to just we knew that we would continue to address the longing in our hearts, and we had to wait on the Lord for him to fulfill that.
40:59
SPEAKER_01: So a lot of times these conversations are not necessarily goals that we can make happen, it's almost acknowledging it.
41:04
SPEAKER_01: And I think to even, you know, that is a blessing that I get to do that, and my birthday falls at the end of the year, and my husband's willing to talk about it.
41:13
SPEAKER_01: It wasn't always that way.
41:14
SPEAKER_01: And I think this is where, you know, all my friends who are listening, all our friends who are listening can go, even if the idea of sitting down with my husband and doing that is like not gonna happen and this far-fetched idea.
41:28
SPEAKER_01: My challenge is to do that for yourself.
41:31
SPEAKER_01: You don't you can still make plans for your family and dream for your family and write out some things that you want to have have happen.
41:38
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't have to look as a couple, and it's one of those things sometimes that as you do them, your husband might take note and go, Oh, that's looking productive, that's looking fruitful, or it's even just a way for you to get on paper, because I that's usually what happens.
41:54
SPEAKER_01: There's so many things that I never share with my husband, not because I'm keeping it secret, but because it just it would be too much for him, and it's for me to process through, filter through, decide what it is that I really think that the Lord is directing me to and the spirit's leading me, and then we can kind of come and meet and go, Well, this is what I've been thinking, what have you been thinking?
42:12
SPEAKER_01: And then we can move forward from there as well.
42:14
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
42:15
SPEAKER_03: I remember one year um when my girls were really little.
42:20
SPEAKER_03: I think my youngest was probably one.
42:23
SPEAKER_03: And we um came back from Christmas and we'd gone to Christmas, and I really needed that Christmas to be a break, and it wasn't.
42:30
SPEAKER_03: And we came home and like the second, first or second week of January, I just fell apart.
42:36
SPEAKER_03: I just was like completely overwhelmed.
42:40
SPEAKER_03: This idea of another year in the same place without some things changing.
42:46
SPEAKER_03: Um, and I was really at this point where I was like, this is not what I want my life to look like.
42:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
42:53
SPEAKER_03: And I really couldn't change much of it.
42:55
SPEAKER_03: I just I didn't like how I felt.
42:57
SPEAKER_03: And I knew something had to give.
42:59
SPEAKER_03: And that was really probably one of the beginning points of me walking through and starting to write out um and find words for living, live what you believe.
43:08
SPEAKER_03: And so, but one of the things I did was I had this little whiteboard in the kitchen.
43:14
SPEAKER_03: And I just started, I said, okay, this month I want to have, I needed something tangible.
43:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
43:20
SPEAKER_03: Um, and so I said, I want to have tried one new recipe that we could all eat.
43:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, not toddler food, baby food, parent food.
43:31
SPEAKER_03: Right.
43:32
SPEAKER_03: One recipe that we all can eat.
43:36
SPEAKER_03: I want to have read two books this month.
43:39
SPEAKER_03: I want to have run so many miles.
43:42
SPEAKER_03: And at the time I was training for a half.
43:44
SPEAKER_03: Um, and so I decided to I was already goal setting for my runs.
43:49
SPEAKER_02: That's good.
43:49
SPEAKER_03: Um, and so I knew I was running if I met my training goal, if I stuck with my plan, I was gonna have run 45 miles that month.
43:57
SPEAKER_04: Nice.
43:58
SPEAKER_03: Today I don't.
44:00
SPEAKER_03: Who was she?
44:02
SPEAKER_03: You're gonna be good, sister.
44:03
SPEAKER_03: But 2019 might be a comeback year.
44:05
SPEAKER_03: So we'll see.
44:06
SPEAKER_03: But so my measure, you know, I sat down and said, I want to do one recipe, two books.
44:12
SPEAKER_03: I want to have run 45 miles in January.
44:15
SPEAKER_03: And I think there were one or two other things.
44:18
SPEAKER_03: Um, oh, we're gonna have gone on one, we're gonna have had a date night in some way, shape, or form, um, and have had some like meaningful date conversation or go to a movie, or we that was the year we started swapping with friends instead of hiring babysitters.
44:36
SPEAKER_01: That's so nice.
44:37
SPEAKER_03: And so we're like, hey, you take, I'll take your kids, you guys go out to dinner, the kids will all play at our house, and then I will take your kids home to your house and put them to bed until you come home.
44:50
SPEAKER_03: And then next week we'll swap.
44:52
SPEAKER_03: That was just me, you know, it was me sitting down saying, I need to do something different, right?
45:00
SPEAKER_03: And I want to be able to like because I like lists and I like checking it off.
45:05
SPEAKER_03: Um, but I needed something for January.
45:09
SPEAKER_03: And so it was like, all right, what are these these things?
45:12
SPEAKER_03: And so here it is, and looking back, it's exactly what you're talking about.
45:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:18
SPEAKER_03: Um, but I didn't realize that I just it's like, I need something that I can see.
45:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's gonna remind you, be in front of you.
45:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it's good because writing it down and tucking it away and something that you're not gonna look at all the time, it's not gonna help you.
45:33
SPEAKER_01: And that's one of the things.
45:34
SPEAKER_03: What is it that Rose said, write it where you can see it?
45:37
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
45:38
SPEAKER_03: In one of her life lessons.
45:39
SPEAKER_01: Yes, that's right.
45:40
SPEAKER_01: Write it where you can see it.
45:42
SPEAKER_01: The Brilliant Life Planner has that where as you turn the pages, you're not getting further away from your goals, you're rewriting them and keeping them in front of you, which is really, really good because one, it causes you to put a more realistic goal because you might, you know, have your big ones, but you need to be breaking it down into what does that mean for right now?
46:07
SPEAKER_01: What does it mean for this month?
46:08
SPEAKER_01: What does it mean for this week?
46:10
SPEAKER_01: And so kind of like you said, with the running, it was the big number was 45, but you knew three miles five days a week was gonna get you there.
46:22
SPEAKER_01: Or I didn't.
46:23
SPEAKER_01: So this year we're gonna get there, whether it's running, whether it's doing a new recipe a week, whether it's doing reading two books a month, which that is always on my list.
46:35
SPEAKER_01: And I didn't do that very well in 2018.
46:37
SPEAKER_01: So 2019 that's gonna happen again.
46:40
SPEAKER_01: And I'm excited.
46:41
SPEAKER_01: I'm excited to see the fruit of writing down some of these dreams, obviously keeping the Lord the center of it, waiting to hear what the Holy Spirit, how the Holy Spirit's leading and directing us, and then just every day kind of taking it back and asking him, all right, what does today look like?
47:00
SPEAKER_01: What is it that you want me to do?
47:01
SPEAKER_01: When we get overwhelmed to to be reminded that he's not gonna give us more than what we can actually do, and he wants us to bring, he wants to even bring joy in the process.
47:10
SPEAKER_03: He does.
47:10
SPEAKER_03: And I think that there's there's that piece of um that overwhelm.
47:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
47:16
SPEAKER_03: You know, when you set your goals and it doesn't feel or look like you're getting there, you can you don't have to you don't have to throw it out the window.
47:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's right.
47:25
SPEAKER_03: It's probably a great opportunity to go back to where you started and and say, is this am I here?
47:31
SPEAKER_03: Did I hear?
47:32
SPEAKER_03: Am I listening?
47:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
47:34
SPEAKER_03: What have I learned between that moment and now that can help me reframe it or articulate it differently?
47:40
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
47:41
SPEAKER_03: Um, because I think there's grace to find there.
47:43
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
47:44
SPEAKER_01: I love the new year.
47:46
SPEAKER_01: I I mean, Christmas is awesome, and you know, don't get me wrong, I almost sort of look forward to Christmas all year long in that way of knowing that oh, it's vacation and we can have all these meaningful moments and it's just gonna be great.
47:58
SPEAKER_01: But the beginning again, the like fresh, clean slate and all the possibility.
48:05
SPEAKER_01: I think that's what gets me excited, you know, the eternal optimist.
48:08
SPEAKER_03: Well, not always, but it feels so like so true.
48:12
SPEAKER_03: And and the thing about it is too, I think this is one of the things that changed for me when I said just say no, January was it wasn't that I had to hit January first and have all the answers.
48:24
SPEAKER_03: Yes, because it kind of turned January into an entire month of intentionally like meaning thinking about how I was gonna intentionally approach the rest of that year, yeah.
48:36
SPEAKER_03: Um, and how if I want to live differently, right?
48:41
SPEAKER_03: I need to make different choices.
48:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
48:43
SPEAKER_03: And what are those?
48:44
SPEAKER_03: And and sometimes it takes a whole week or a few weeks or even a month of life that is not the holidays, yeah, to realize because you can be really thoughtful through the month of January, and that can be your your time to do that.
49:00
SPEAKER_03: We had a church in one of the places we lived that the entire church spent the first 21 days of the year approaching it that way.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
49:08
SPEAKER_03: Now that they cut cut things out, um, and they said no, and they called it something different.
49:14
SPEAKER_03: But I think watching that, and then that was the year before my overwhelm that gave birth to just say no January.
49:23
SPEAKER_03: I think it was this idea of this, there's something healthy and there's something to be said for taking that time and space.
49:30
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
49:31
SPEAKER_03: And it doesn't have to be crammed in between today and New Year's Eve.
49:35
SPEAKER_01: Right.
49:36
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, totally.
49:37
SPEAKER_03: I don't have to arrive on January 1st with all my goals, the perfect plan, and you just you don't have to be perfect to start.
49:47
SPEAKER_03: You just have to begin.
49:48
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
49:49
SPEAKER_01: You just have to turn the page and begin again.
49:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we spend the first 21 days prayer praying and fasting and as a church, but then as a couple, we've had that sort of tradition built in for years and years, and that's been that's been the perfect thing because we kind of set it up, queued it up, we've been thinking about things.
50:06
SPEAKER_01: We know the birthday dates coming that we want to talk about, but then that whole month, our focus and attention can, you know, be really clear, kind of set on those things.
50:16
SPEAKER_01: Do you have anything else for us?
50:17
SPEAKER_01: You know, these are the things that are stirring in our hearts.
50:20
SPEAKER_01: What is it that you want to continue to, you know, honestly like weed out sometimes, right?
50:26
SPEAKER_01: And and help us kind of focus in actually what is the Lord saying in all of this?
50:30
SPEAKER_01: So I love it.
50:31
SPEAKER_01: It's just it just the fresh start, the beginning again, and the beauty of the possibilities and all that the Lord has in store for each of us.
50:40
SPEAKER_01: I think that's for each of us.
50:41
SPEAKER_01: And I want to I want I want everyone to be able to hear that.
50:46
SPEAKER_01: The Lord has that for them too.
50:48
SPEAKER_01: He has an intention and a plan for this year.
50:51
SPEAKER_01: He not because he's you know scolding and condemning of like you better get a good plan in year.
50:57
SPEAKER_01: It's this invitation of like, I've got some great things for you.
51:00
SPEAKER_01: So why don't you come sit at my feet and and just hear with great expectation and have anticipation that he's he's got some dreams to fulfill and he's got some dreams to begin as well.
51:13
SPEAKER_03: I think it'll be really an exciting year.
51:15
SPEAKER_03: I think there's a lot coming in 2019, um, which is which is just exciting to see, you know, even if you don't know.
51:24
SPEAKER_03: Um, and I think I'm excited about the whole hearted assembly whole hearted podcast.
51:30
SPEAKER_03: Um really intentionally we're gonna look at um let's digging into perspective in January.
51:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
51:36
SPEAKER_03: Really setting um you and I talk about this a lot when we're not on a microphone, but yeah, um the difference between how do you do something and why do you do something.
51:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and sometimes that why is what you mean in the really tougher moments.
51:55
SPEAKER_03: Why am I doing this?
51:56
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I believe this.
51:58
SPEAKER_02: Right.
51:58
SPEAKER_03: Um, so I'm excited for your chat with Rose about getting perspective from the Word of God and really setting that um foundation, you know, going back to the kind of some of the basics, but really meaningful.
52:11
SPEAKER_03: Um, and some of the guests in January who are gonna help us with our perspective.
52:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, for the new year already, we've recorded a couple, um, so they're queued up.
52:22
SPEAKER_01: And um, one of them is Jessica Turner.
52:25
SPEAKER_01: Thanks to you.
52:26
SPEAKER_01: You reached out.
52:27
SPEAKER_03: We're excited.
52:28
SPEAKER_03: I love her book.
52:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I really do.
52:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think that's gonna be a good one to just give us some practical, uh, a practical plan.
52:37
SPEAKER_01: You know, help us to really form that and what does that look like so that way we are not stretched too thin.
52:43
SPEAKER_01: I know we've got so many good people.
52:45
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna uh Sarah Wells, she wrote a book about a family devotional as part of our giveaway, 12 days of giveaway.
52:51
SPEAKER_01: It was under your Christmas tree.
52:52
SPEAKER_01: And so you're gonna be actually using it.
52:54
SPEAKER_01: So you'll have to check back in with us and tell us how that goes.
52:57
SPEAKER_01: And I know that's gonna be part of your January.
52:59
SPEAKER_01: Just say yes.
53:01
SPEAKER_01: Best yes to you.
53:02
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna say yes to that.
53:04
SPEAKER_03: Yes, with a lot of grace.
53:06
SPEAKER_01: Yep, yeah.
53:06
SPEAKER_01: You're gonna say yes to that.
53:08
SPEAKER_01: So that means no to some other things that would take away from that time, but it's so worth it.
53:12
SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Katie.
53:13
SPEAKER_01: Happy New Year! Happy New Year! So glad that we get to link arms throughout 2019.
53:19
SPEAKER_01: And 2018 has been such a gift.
53:21
SPEAKER_01: Your friendship has been a surprising gift, wasn't on the horizon for me at the moment.
53:25
SPEAKER_03: I'm excited.
53:26
SPEAKER_03: This is really one of the highlights of 2018 for me.
53:28
SPEAKER_03: So thank you.
53:30
SPEAKER_03: Thanks for mostly letting me stay um behind the scenes and not in front of a microphone.
53:35
SPEAKER_03: That is absolutely.
53:37
SPEAKER_03: It's so good.
53:39
SPEAKER_03: There's a reason I'm a speech writer, not a speech giver.
53:43
SPEAKER_01: Um, you're good at both.
53:44
SPEAKER_03: So happy, happy birthday.
53:47
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
53:47
SPEAKER_03: And we will talk with you next year.
53:49
SPEAKER_01: All right, yay! Happy New Year.
53:54
SPEAKER_01: All right, are you ready to begin again with wholehearted intention?
53:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm listening again and sharing this conversation for my own reminder of approaching this year in a state of rest and healthy anticipation.
54:06
SPEAKER_01: The Lord has good and unique plans for each of us, and I'm planning on taking more time each day to inquire what he has for me and this amazing simply wholehearted community.
54:16
SPEAKER_01: Of course, I have several free resources to help you as you plan for 2019.
54:21
SPEAKER_01: And one of those is our season reflection.
54:24
SPEAKER_01: It's just a few simple questions to help you remember what you loved about this last season and what wasn't such a great fit.
54:31
SPEAKER_01: Taking the time to reflect helps you look ahead and better plan for the next few months.
54:36
SPEAKER_01: Also, my Creating Meaningful Minutes workshop will help you get on paper how you want to dictate your calendar instead of your calendar dictating your time.
54:45
SPEAKER_01: As usual, all of this info is in the show notes.
54:49
SPEAKER_01: Well, there's nothing like getting to the end of the year and reflecting on all the blessings it's held.
54:54
SPEAKER_01: This podcast and the whole hearted community sure is one of them.
54:58
SPEAKER_01: I'm so grateful for each person who tunes in, and it thrills me to hear or to see it when you share episodes with your friends and family.
55:05
SPEAKER_01: It's truly the highest compliment I could get paid.
55:08
SPEAKER_01: So if I could give each of you a special gift, I would.
55:11
SPEAKER_01: It would mean so much to me to have you take a few minutes and leave a rating on your favorite podcast app for this podcast.
55:18
SPEAKER_01: It's really the little things like that which really help others find us and know they are welcome to join us as we begin again in 2019 with more amazing inspiration.
55:28
SPEAKER_01: So until next year, be sure to join us on the socials as we continue to pursue perspective, purpose, and plans for a simply full hearted life.