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- 0:00Welcome to Reformed Thinking. Today, we're taking a deep dive
- 0:04into a question that, well, it really touches the very heart of
- 0:07what it means to genuinely follow Christ.
- 0:10What do true Saints genuinely long for?
- 0:14And maybe more importantly, how does that longing reveal the
- 0:17authenticity of their faith? We've been really immersed in
- 0:22insights from a significant theological work looking at the
- 0:25very nature of spiritual longing.
- 0:27It shines a light on what a real hunger for God looks like, and
- 0:30maybe even more tellingly, what it doesn't look like.
- 0:33This isn't just, you know, theory.
- 0:34It's about discerning the pulse of authentic faith.
- 0:37Yeah. And what's really compelling
- 0:38here is how the source material helps us distinguish between,
- 0:41let's say, spiritual desire that genuinely comes from grace and
- 0:45what might just be, well, religious feeling.
- 0:47He gives us a pretty clear indicator.
- 0:49Do our affections spark an ever growing appetite for holiness?
- 0:52Where do they kind of settle down into self satisfaction?
- 0:54That distinction feels crucial. Oh, it's fundamental.
- 0:57It's not a minor point at all. It really goes to understanding
- 0:59our actual spiritual condition. So this deep dive is really
- 1:03about helping you, the listener, grasp that vital difference for
- 1:07your own walk with God. We want to uncover what that
- 1:10true spiritual hunger actually involves.
- 1:13Why it never really stops, and how it sets genuine faith apart
- 1:17from anything while superficial. It's about looking beneath the
- 1:21surface, beyond just religious activity, to the affections, the
- 1:25desires of the soul. So our source material kicks off
- 1:28by laying out this core identifier, this way to
- 1:31distinguish gracious affections from others.
- 1:33It says that true spiritual affections, as they're stirred
- 1:36up, actually increase a spiritual appetite, a yearning
- 1:40of the soul for further spiritual attainment.
- 1:43Right. It's suggesting spiritual growth
- 1:44isn't like reaching a plateau, but more like a continuous
- 1:46climb. That's a key concept, isn't it?
- 1:49Absolutely foundational. It means the more a true St.
- 1:52loves God with a love that flows from divine grace, mind you, the
- 1:56more they desire to love Him. It's not some static emotion
- 1:59that you achieve and then you know you're done cultivating it.
- 2:02No, it's dynamic, it's growing, and interestingly, it brings
- 2:05with it this fitting sense of disquiet and unease when they
- 2:11perceive any lack in their love for God.
- 2:13Unease. That sounds potentially
- 2:16negative. Well, it's not negative in the
- 2:17sense of condemnation or a lack of peace.
- 2:20It's more like a tender ache. You could say a holy
- 2:23dissatisfaction with anything less than a full, vibrant love
- 2:27for their Creator. Think of it like a spiritual
- 2:30feedback loop. The more God's grace is poured
- 2:33into your heart, the greater your capacity and desire for Him
- 2:36becomes, and that leads to an intensified longing for even
- 2:39more of that love. It's really a hallmark of
- 2:42authentic spiritual life. That's a powerful distinction,
- 2:44then, a love so deep that it actually creates an unease over
- 2:47any perceived lack. So how does this fitting
- 2:50uneasiness show up in a saint's practical day-to-day life?
- 2:52Is it like a heavy burden? No, not burdensome like
- 2:55spiritual oppression. No, not at all.
- 2:57Instead, this unease is well, it's a healthy animating force.
- 3:03It shows up as a continual Dr. toward God.
- 3:06It looks like prayerful wrestling with their own heart,
- 3:09you know, and a diligent application to the means of
- 3:11grace, reading scripture, prayer gathering with other believers.
- 3:15Usual. Means right?
- 3:16It's kind of like the spiritual equivalent of physical hunger.
- 3:19When you eat, you're satisfied for a bit, but your body
- 3:22eventually craves more nourishment for life and growth
- 3:25spiritually. This hunger for God is renewed
- 3:28and even intensified the more you experience Him.
- 3:31It's really a sign of spiritual health, not sickness.
- 3:34OK, that makes sense. It's sign of life, not decay.
- 3:36Precisely, And this pattern, it isn't just limited to loving
- 3:39God, it kind of expands to every dimension of holiness.
- 3:42For instance, the more a true St. genuinely hates sin, the
- 3:46more they desire to despise it completely, utterly.
- 3:49They grieve. They lament any remaining
- 3:51affection or even inclination towards sin within themselves.
- 3:54This isn't just a surface level regret for past action.
- 3:57No, it's deep. Much deeper, it's a deep seated
- 4:00aversion to sins very nature and its presence in their heart.
- 4:04They don't just stop at a certain level of purity, they
- 4:07long to be entirely free from sins power.
- 4:09It's pollution they yearn for a deeper conformity to Christ's
- 4:14purity. And that desire fuels action.
- 4:17It fuels A consistent, heartfelt process of repentance, not just
- 4:21for outward stuff, but for the internal inclinations of the
- 4:24soul. So it's this continuous process
- 4:26of cleansing of deeper alignment, not just a one off
- 4:29event. What about their attitude
- 4:30towards their own failings? Exactly.
- 4:32They long to mourn for sin more, and the more their heart is
- 4:35broken by their sin, the more they desire it to be broken even
- 4:38further. That sounds intense.
- 4:40It is, but that it's not a desire for self pity or endless
- 4:43despair. It's a longing for a genuine,
- 4:46profound, appropriate sorrow, one that reflects God's own view
- 4:49of sin and its offense against His Holiness.
- 4:51So it's an increasing sensitivity to sin.
- 4:54Yes, rather than a hardening against it.
- 4:57And this deep remorse is coupled with an equally strong thirst, A
- 5:01yearning for God himself and for holiness just for its own sake.
- 5:05They even find themselves expressing a desire to desire,
- 5:08you know, breathing out their very being and longing after
- 5:12God. It paints a picture of intense,
- 5:14almost all consuming spiritual desire.
- 5:17A yearning for God and holiness that just takes over everything.
- 5:20Driving them toward deeper communion, greater purity?
- 5:23Yes. The source material uses this
- 5:25image of a flame being kindled. The higher the flame, the more
- 5:28ardently it burns, the more it seeks to expand.
- 5:31That's a vivid picture of this continuous spiritual intensity.
- 5:34It is, and that continuous, intensifying desire for holiness
- 5:38and spiritual affection is much more alive, much sharper, and
- 5:41those who really stand out in holiness.
- 5:43It's particularly evident when grace and holy affections are
- 5:46most active within them. It's not just an idea.
- 5:48You can see the spiritual dynamic in the lives of true
- 5:50Saints. It's almost instinctual then.
- 5:52You can say that it is as much the very nature of someone
- 5:55spiritually reborn to yearn for growth and holiness as it is for
- 5:59a newborn baby to seek its mother's breast.
- 6:02A healthy baby instinctively craves milk for life and growth,
- 6:06right? Their appetite is sharpest when
- 6:08they're thriving. Likewise, the spiritually reborn
- 6:12person inherently craves holiness for their spiritual
- 6:15well-being, for maturity. We see this reflected in first
- 6:18Peter 2 verses 2 and 3. New believers are told to desire
- 6:22the sincere milk of the Word so they may grow by it.
- 6:26Having already tasted that, the Lord is gracious that initial
- 6:29taste doesn't satisfy completely.
- 6:30It just makes you want. More, it stimulates a greater
- 6:32hunger. Exactly so even the most
- 6:34spiritually mature among us are still, in a sense, growing and
- 6:37longing. They've never fully arrived in
- 6:40this life. It feels like the best we get
- 6:42here is just a sample. That's absolutely right.
- 6:44The finest experience a St. has in this world is described as
- 6:47merely a taste or a prelobation, which just means a small
- 6:51foretaste, a sample of the glory to come.
- 6:54It serves as an earnest, like a down payment of their future
- 6:57inheritance in their hearts. The spiritual joys, the insights
- 7:00we get now, they're just glimpses, fragments of the
- 7:04fullness that awaits. So they point forward.
- 7:06Inherently, they mean that no matter how rich our current
- 7:09experience feels, it's incomplete.
- 7:11It's designed to Orient us toward what's still to come.
- 7:14The New Testament talks about the Holy Spirit this way, you
- 7:16know in Second Corinthians and Ephesians as a guarantee.
- 7:19And appetizer are not the main course then.
- 7:21Precisely. Even the most outstanding Saints
- 7:23in this life are, well, like children compared to their
- 7:26coming state of maturity and perfection.
- 7:28Paul talks about this in First Corinthians 13.
- 7:31Seeing dimly now, but then face to face.
- 7:33Exactly. Which means whatever spiritual
- 7:36gains we make, whoever significant they seem, they're
- 7:39still pretty basic when measured against the glorious perfected
- 7:42state waiting for believers. So the greatest spiritual
- 7:46attainments here don't lead to being fully satisfied or to the
- 7:50yearning lessening. Quite the opposite.
- 7:52They make you more eager. More eager to press forward.
- 7:54Like Paul in Philippians 3, he talks about forgetting what's
- 7:57behind, reaching for what's ahead.
- 7:59His past victories didn't make him complacent.
- 8:02No, they fueled. Him.
- 8:03They fueled his relentless drive for what was ahead in Christ.
- 8:07And that's a core characteristic of true grace.
- 8:09It propels you further. It never lets you settle into
- 8:11spiritual stagnation. OK, that helps clarify why this
- 8:15hunger seems endless in this life.
- 8:17What are the the deeper theological reasons behind this
- 8:20ever growing appetite for holiness and grace?
- 8:23Our sources mention a few core reasons.
- 8:26Well, firstly, the more someone actually possesses gracious
- 8:29affections, the more they gain that spiritual discernment, that
- 8:32ability to perceive the well, the surpassing excellence, and
- 8:37taste the divine sweetness of holiness itself.
- 8:40This isn't just thinking about it.
- 8:41It's a spiritual apprehension of beauty, a deeper seeing, a
- 8:46relishing of what holiness really is.
- 8:48Like developing a taste for fine art or music.
- 8:51That's a good analogy. An untrained ear might enjoy a
- 8:54simple tune, but a seasoned musician hears the complex
- 8:58harmonies, the counterpoint, the emotional depth.
- 9:00Their appreciation is far richer.
- 9:02And that makes them want to engage more.
- 9:04Right. Similarly, this spiritual
- 9:06insight, rather other than fully satisfying, makes the soul crave
- 9:09more of that divine sweetness because they're increasingly
- 9:12aware of its infinite depths. And secondly, the more grace
- 9:15they have while still living in this imperfect state, the more
- 9:18clearly they see their own imperfection, their spiritual
- 9:20emptiness, how far they really are from what they ought to be.
- 9:23Well, yeah, But it's a healthy realization.
- 9:26This recognition gives them an increased sense of their need
- 9:29for grace. This comes up when we talk about
- 9:31evangelical humility. True grace works to reveal the
- 9:35depth of our own shortcomings, our remaining sinfulness.
- 9:38And that naturally compels us to seek even more of God's grace
- 9:42for cleansing, for transformation.
- 9:44So it drives us towards God as the only source.
- 9:47Exactly. It's not paralyzing.
- 9:49It's motivating. It pushes us toward God as our
- 9:51only true supply. So the very presence of grace
- 9:55let's you see your need for more grace.
- 9:58It's a kind of spiritual paradox that seems to create the self
- 10:01perpetuating desire. It absolutely does, and beyond
- 10:04that, grace itself, as long as it remains imperfect in US,
- 10:07inherently has a growing nature. It's in a state of ongoing
- 10:10development. Think about any living thing
- 10:12that's not yet fully mature. It's very nature compels it to
- 10:14see growth, especially when it's healthy and thriving.
- 10:17Like a plant reaching for sunlight.
- 10:19A robust plant, exactly. It continually reaches for more
- 10:22light, more water, more nutrients to expand and flourish
- 10:26in the same way every true grace within us cries out.
- 10:29It's like that expression of true faith in Mark 9.
- 10:31Lord, I believe, help thou my unbelief.
- 10:35Yes, both the statement of possession and lack.
- 10:37Precisely a confession of what's been received and what's still
- 10:41lacking. A sincere desire for spiritual
- 10:44completion, for greater conformity to God's will.
- 10:46So the greater the spiritual insights and affections a true
- 10:49Christian gets, the more they become an earnest petitioner
- 10:52asking for grace for spiritual nourishment so they can keep
- 10:55growing. And it's not passive longing.
- 10:57Definitely not. They pursue this growth with
- 10:59diligence, through the proper means, through action.
- 11:03Because genuine grace filled longings for holiness aren't
- 11:05just idle ineffective wishes. If they lead somewhere.
- 11:08They lead to action, to fervent prayer, diligent engagement with
- 11:11the Word, participation in the community of faith, actively
- 11:14striving for righteousness day by day.
- 11:16OK, but here's something that might trip people up.
- 11:19You might be thinking. Hold on, if spiritual enjoyments
- 11:22are soul satisfying, how can they also lead to this unending
- 11:27hunger for more? It seems like a contradiction,
- 11:30right? Yeah, that's a really common
- 11:31point of potential misunderstanding.
- 11:34Spiritual enjoyments are satisfying, but not in the sense
- 11:36of being cloying. Cloying like too much dessert.
- 11:40Exactly not like something overly sweet where having a
- 11:43little makes you want no more. Instead, they are soul
- 11:46satisfying in several distinct ways that actually fuel further
- 11:49desire. Think of it like a truly amazing
- 11:52meal. It satisfies your immediate
- 11:54hunger, sure, but it also might create a lasting desire for that
- 11:58specific kind of exquisite taste.
- 12:00OK, so how are they satisfying then?
- 12:02Well, first, they're perfectly fitted to the very nature,
- 12:05capacity, and needs of the human soul.
- 12:07Those who experience them, they don't desire any other kind of
- 12:10enjoyment. They're content with that
- 12:11specific kind of happiness. They don't wish for a change or
- 12:14feel inclined to wander off looking for other sources of
- 12:17joy. The soul never gets tired of
- 12:19this divine happiness. But that doesn't mean they don't
- 12:21want more of it. Exactly.
- 12:23That's the key. It doesn't mean those who have
- 12:25some of this happiness desire no more of the same kind.
- 12:28It's about the inherent quality of the satisfaction.
- 12:32It's uniquely suited to the soul's deepest longings, not
- 12:35about the quantity indicating fullness.
- 12:37It's the perfect fit that makes it desirable and increasing
- 12:41measure. So it's the perfect adaptation
- 12:43of spiritual good to the soul. That's satisfying.
- 12:45Not the feeling of having had enough of it, like finding the
- 12:48most refreshing water when you're thirsty.
- 12:50You're thrilled with the kind of drink, but you'll gladly drink
- 12:52more if it's available. Perfectly put.
- 12:55Second, they fulfill the expectation of the appetite.
- 12:58When you have a strong appetite for something, your expectation
- 13:01is usually high. Worldly enjoyments.
- 13:04They often disappoint. They fall short of the hopes
- 13:06they raise. We've all been there.
- 13:08Right. But spiritual enjoyments.
- 13:09They fully meet and even exceed what the soul yearns for.
- 13:13They deliver on their promise, and in doing so, they actually
- 13:16deepen the very hunger they initially satisfied.
- 13:19So the satisfaction validates and intensifies the desire, it
- 13:23doesn't kill it. Correct. 3rd the pleasure and
- 13:26contentment you get from spiritual enjoyments are lasting
- 13:30worldly enjoyments. Sharp contrast here might
- 13:33satisfy a particular appetite temporarily, but then the
- 13:36pleasure fades and that general human thirst for real lasting
- 13:40happiness just returns, leaving soul feeling empty again.
- 13:43The crash after the sugar rush. Kind of spiritual joy, though,
- 13:47prevents that return to emptiness.
- 13:49The satisfaction gained isn't fleeting.
- 13:51It settles deep within the soul, providing A sustained sense of
- 13:54contentment that lasts beyond the initial experience.
- 13:58It's like a constant spiritual well you can always draw from.
- 14:01So unlike a quick fix, it's a more consistent state of
- 14:03gratification. Yes.
- 14:05And fourthly, spiritual good is satisfying because there's an
- 14:08infinite abundance of it. There's enough to satisfy the
- 14:11soul to any degree, if only you know.
- 14:13The hindrances were removed and our capacity to receive was
- 14:16fully used. There's an infinite ocean of it
- 14:19available for the soul to just extend itself into.
- 14:21If people aren't satisfied in the degree of happiness they
- 14:24experience, the reason lies within themselves.
- 14:26It's our limitation, not God's. Exactly.
- 14:29It's because we don't open our mouths wide enough, so to speak.
- 14:33The problem is never with the supply of spiritual good, that's
- 14:35boundless, but with our limited capacity or maybe willingness to
- 14:39receive it. The more we engage with it, the
- 14:42more we realize it's endless depth and therefore the more we
- 14:46yearn to partake of it more fully.
- 14:48So if I'm getting this right, the very satisfying nature of
- 14:51spiritual good is precisely why the soul, once it tastes, it,
- 14:55yearns for more and for its ultimate fullness.
- 14:58It's like a magnetic pull towards the infinite.
- 15:00That's a perfect way to put it. It's like bodies drawn into
- 15:03Earth's gravity. They tend toward it with
- 15:05increasing force the closer they get right, and they aren't at
- 15:08rest until they reach the center.
- 15:10Spiritual good is of such an inherently satisfying nature
- 15:14that the soul which truly tastes it begins to comprehend it, will
- 15:18thirst for it and for a complete measure of it so it can be fully
- 15:21content. The more someone genuinely
- 15:23experiences and understands this excellent, unparalleled,
- 15:27exquisite, satisfying sweetness, the more earnestly they will
- 15:30hunger and thirst for more until they reach ultimate perfection
- 15:34in God's presence. And that explains the link.
- 15:36That's precisely why the greater the genuine spiritual affections
- 15:40are, the greater the appetite and longing become for more
- 15:43grace and more holiness in their lives.
- 15:46It's a journey of ever increasing spiritual intensity
- 15:49as we draw near to the very Source.
- 15:51OK, now let's contrast that. In stark contrast to these
- 15:55growing active desires, our sources show that false or
- 15:58counterfeit religious affections work in a fundamentally
- 16:02different way. They tend to settle into a state
- 16:04of self satisfaction. This seems like a really
- 16:07critical indicator for telling the difference.
- 16:09It is absolutely critical for spiritual discernment.
- 16:11If there was a desire for grace before, maybe driven by legal
- 16:14conviction, fear of judgment, something like that.
- 16:17As these false affections increase, that initial desire
- 16:21often just stops or it significantly lessens.
- 16:23How so? Well, for example, someone under
- 16:26heavy conviction of sin might have really longed for spiritual
- 16:29light, for understanding, maybe for faith that brings peace.
- 16:32But once false affections deceive them into thinking, OK,
- 16:36I'm converted, my spiritual state is secure, I'm good.
- 16:39Those earnest longings for more light, more grace.
- 16:42Yeah, they just stop. It because the perceived goal is
- 16:45met. Exactly.
- 16:46They feel they've arrived spiritually, so the spiritual
- 16:48hunger they once felt often just vanishes or fades away.
- 16:52It's like taking off a spiritual checklist item rather than
- 16:54entering into a dynamic living relationship.
- 16:57They think they found the solution, so the problem in
- 17:00their minds is gone. That nails it.
- 17:03A central characteristic of false affections is they lead
- 17:06people to become overly confident that their sins are
- 17:09forgiven, that they're guaranteed heaven, and as a
- 17:12result they become content with where they are.
- 17:15Their perceived end is answered. They think their spiritual quest
- 17:18is complete. When these affections get
- 17:21stirred up really high, they effectively put an end to any
- 17:24further longings for grace and holiness.
- 17:26They feel they've got it made, spiritually speaking.
- 17:29Right. And this is often compounded by
- 17:31their inflated view of their own spiritual riches, a person with
- 17:35strong false affections. They're far from seeing
- 17:38themselves as a poor, empty creature needing constant divine
- 17:41help. Instead, they feel rich and
- 17:43increased with goods. They hardly perceive anything
- 17:46more excellent or necessary than what they think they've already
- 17:49got. That sense of spiritual
- 17:50abundance leaves no room for more desire.
- 17:53Exactly. They are spiritually
- 17:54self-sufficient in their own eyes, which is frankly a
- 17:58dangerous place to be. And this false sense of
- 18:00satisfaction? It often results in just
- 18:03stopping the earnest pursuit, doesn't it?
- 18:05Many people seem to start diligently seeking after what
- 18:08they call their conversion, or after some intense emotional
- 18:11experience makes them totally confident.
- 18:14They really do. They start acting as though
- 18:16their spiritual work is basically done.
- 18:18They rely heavily on their first work, that initial emotional
- 18:21experience, that past moment of intense feeling, and they're
- 18:26crying and striving after God and grace just comes to an end.
- 18:30Which is the opposite of what the Bible.
- 18:32Teaches it leads to behavior that is starkly contrary to
- 18:35Scripture. The New Testament almost
- 18:37universally talks about believers watching, giving
- 18:39careful heed to themselves, running the race, striving,
- 18:43agonizing, wrestling, fighting, putting on the whole armor of
- 18:46God, pressing forward, reaching forth, continuing instant
- 18:49prayer, crying to God day and night.
- 18:51And that's directed at believers.
- 18:53Crucially, yes, these commands are almost entirely directed to
- 18:57Saints. Those were already converted.
- 19:00While you might find these actions applied to sinners
- 19:02seeking conversion once or twice, they are applied to the
- 19:05Saints ongoing pursuit of their high calling maybe 10 times more
- 19:09frequently. It highlights the ongoing,
- 19:12active, lifelong nature of true faith, the continued need for
- 19:16spiritual effort even after regeneration.
- 19:19So the biblical picture is the converted person continuing the
- 19:22struggle, not stopping as if they crossed a finish line.
- 19:25Absolutely. But many today seem to have
- 19:28adopted this strange, unbiblical approach, where all their
- 19:31striving, all their wrestling, is believed to be over before
- 19:34they're converted. Then they expect an easy ride
- 19:37afterwards, settling into spiritual ease, even idleness,
- 19:40like people who've got all they need and consider themselves
- 19:42spiritually rich and full. But there's a warning against
- 19:45that. There's a sobering warning.
- 19:47Luke 1.53 says. He is filled the hungry with
- 19:50good things and the rich. He is sent away empty.
- 19:53It's a stark warning against that spiritual complacency that
- 19:57often comes from a perceived fullness based on false
- 19:59affections. The truly hungry are filled, not
- 20:02those who think they're already full.
- 20:04OK, but what about this? Some people with false
- 20:06affections might push back and say no, I do desire more.
- 20:09I am pressing forward spiritually.
- 20:12Our sources seem to draw another clear line here, suggesting the
- 20:15object of their desires is often fundamentally different from a
- 20:18true Saints. That is a truly vital point for
- 20:21getting the discernment right. The desires of genuine Saints
- 20:24are a proper appetite for holiness itself, for its own
- 20:27sake, or for the moral excellence, the spiritual beauty
- 20:29that resides in it. It's described as a natural and,
- 20:33as it were, necessary appetite and thirsting of the new man
- 20:36after God. And holiness, Yes, an inherent
- 20:39longing, a spiritual impulse that's as natural to the new
- 20:42spiritual nature as, say, vital warmth is to the body.
- 20:47There's a holy breathing, an intense yearning after the
- 20:49Spirit of God to increase holiness, as natural to a holy
- 20:52nature as breathing is to a living body.
- 20:54It's not forced or imagined or something you manufacture
- 20:57yourself. It's an organic expression of
- 20:59their regenerated being, a fundamental drive to be more
- 21:02like Christ. So it's an internal drive for
- 21:05holiness, not just an external pressure to look holy.
- 21:08Exactly. And holiness or sanctification
- 21:10is more directly the object of a spiritual appetite than just,
- 21:13say, a display of God's love or favor.
- 21:16This is the meat and drink the spiritual appetite seeks.
- 21:18Remember John 4.34, Christ says, my meat is to do the will of him
- 21:22that sent me, and to finish his work.
- 21:24His deepest satisfaction, His sustenance, was obedience.
- 21:27Doing the Father's will. Right.
- 21:29And when Scripture talks about the desires, the longings, the
- 21:32thirstings of Saints, righteousness and God's laws are
- 21:35mentioned far more often as the object than anything else.
- 21:38True Saints desire the sincere milk of the Word, not primarily
- 21:43to confirm God's love to them, but so they may grow thereby in
- 21:46holiness, in Christlikeness. Holiness is the primary object
- 21:50of a spiritual taste, and therefore the chief object of a
- 21:53spiritual appetite. It's a fundamental shift in what
- 21:55they desire most. A total reorientation, placing
- 21:58God's character and will above everything else.
- 22:01So genuine grace means the godly person finds godliness itself to
- 22:04be their greatest treasure. Like Isaiah says, the fear of
- 22:07the Lord is his treasure. Yes.
- 22:09Godliness is the gainer, eager for, zealous.
- 22:12For as First Timothy 6 suggests, their deepest longing is for the
- 22:16very character of God to be reflected in them, for their
- 22:19lives to increasingly align with his righteousness, his truth.
- 22:22It's a desire for God's glory to be seen in their obedience.
- 22:25OK, but what about those who say they long for great discoveries
- 22:29or tastes of God's love? Aren't those often seen as marks
- 22:32of true faith? Many people connect those
- 22:34experiences with spiritual authenticity.
- 22:37Well, our sources are quite clear here.
- 22:39Individuals with false affections often long for those
- 22:42discoveries more for the immediate comfort they bring or
- 22:46the feeling of a high manifestation of God's love,
- 22:49rather than for any purifying or sanctifying influence it might
- 22:52have. Their desires are frequently for
- 22:55what the text calls buy ends, meaning they have ulterior
- 22:59motives, secondary goals, not a pure desire for holiness itself.
- 23:03Can you give examples of these Buy insurance?
- 23:05Sure. For instance, they might long
- 23:07for clearer spiritual experiences primarily to feel
- 23:10more certain about their own soul state.
- 23:12The focus is overwhelmingly on their own assurance, their
- 23:15emotional well-being. Rather than on the inherent
- 23:18spiritual good of knowing God more and becoming like Him.
- 23:20Precisely another common one is self gratification.
- 23:23They desire great spiritual displays.
- 23:25What they see is divine favor because their self feels
- 23:28gratified by feeling highly favored, maybe elevated above
- 23:31others. A kind of spiritual pride.
- 23:33It's a common pitfall, yeah, where the focus subtly shifts
- 23:36from God's glory and holiness to personal spiritual status.
- 23:40And furthermore, they might long to taste the love of God, as
- 23:44they put it, more than to actually have more love to God.
- 23:48That's a key difference. It's.
- 23:49Critical A desire for an emotional experience of God's
- 23:53love. A passive reception rather than
- 23:56an active increase in their own self denying, obedient love for
- 23:59God. The true St. desires to give
- 24:01love to God through obedience and adoration, not just receive
- 24:05a feeling of His love. So the object of their longing
- 24:08is passive reception, a subjective feeling, not active
- 24:11transformation or obedience. It's about what they get, not
- 24:15what they become or how they respond.
- 24:16You've captured it exactly. They might even have a kind of
- 24:20forced or imagine longing because they think they must
- 24:22long for more grace, otherwise it looks bad for their spiritual
- 24:25state. A desire born out of obligation.
- 24:28Or fear of not seeming spiritual enough, rather than a genuine
- 24:32internal hunger for God and holiness.
- 24:35Their longing for discoveries is mainly for the present comfort,
- 24:38the feeling, the big display of God's love, rather than for any
- 24:42purifying or transforming effect on their character or actions.
- 24:46Which is why the sources provide a clearer distinguishing mark.
- 24:49Right. And that's why they state that
- 24:50longing for great discoveries or great tastes of God's love, or
- 24:54even longing to be in heaven, or longing to die, those are not
- 24:57nearly as distinguishing marks of genuine Saints as what as
- 25:00longing for a more holy heart and living a more holy life.
- 25:04The ultimate test, the clearest indicator, lies in that deep
- 25:08seated desire for conformity to God's character and will, for
- 25:11true righteousness, for sanctification rather than
- 25:14simply for comforting experiences, spiritual status,
- 25:17or even future glory. It's about the desire to become
- 25:20like Christ. Not just to feel good about him
- 25:22or about one's own salvation. Yes.
- 25:25Wow, this deep dive has really shown a light on the heart of
- 25:29genuine faith, hasn't it? It's not primarily about what we
- 25:33feel we've already achieved, how much we think we know, but about
- 25:36what we still hunger for. That deeper walk, that pure
- 25:40heart, a life more truly conformed to his ways.
- 25:43It's really a call to honest self examination for all of us.
- 25:46Indeed it is. The central message seems pretty
- 25:49clear. The path of the true St. is one
- 25:51of constant spiritual progression.
- 25:53It's fueled by a spiritual appetite that only gets keener
- 25:56with every taste of divine goodness.
- 25:58This appetite consistently drives them forward toward the
- 26:01fullness found only in God and in holiness.
- 26:04It's not a static faith, not at all.
- 26:06It's a dynamic, active pursuit of God's character in your own
- 26:09life, a living faith that never stops reaching out for more of
- 26:11God. A path of increasing purity and
- 26:14knowing God better. That's it, a journey towards him
- 26:16so. As you, our listener, reflect on
- 26:19this today, maybe consider this question for yourself.
- 26:21What are you truly hungry for in your spiritual life?
- 26:24What does your spiritual appetite really say about the
- 26:26nature of your affections? Let this be a guide as you seek
- 26:29to live a life that genuinely pleases Him.