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AMA: AI, Culture, Art, Politics, Marriage & More (Sep '25) | Yaron Brook Show · Yaron Brook Show

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  Speaker 1: A lot of quoted the principles of last Little selfs
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  Speaker 1: welcome to your own book show on this Saturday, September
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven. I, as you can see, I am back home.
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  Speaker 1: I got in uh late, well yeah late last night,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm a little jet lagged. So we'll see how
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  Speaker 1: well I do with answering questions in my current state.
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  Speaker 1: Should be fine, but we will see. All Right, we've
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be back. It's nice to have my studio.
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  Speaker 1: It's nice to have all the equipment set up and working.
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  Speaker 1: Although when I first came in, I turned on my
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  Speaker 1: soundboard and everything and nothing, No, didn't even it was dead,
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  Speaker 1: completely dead. So it took a while to get it
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  Speaker 1: to come to life. You do c C CPR, and
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  Speaker 1: ultimately it it it came to let's jump in with
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  Speaker 1: a panel, Jennifer.
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  Speaker 2: You know in the in the old days, photographs and
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  Speaker 2: video used to be evidence for crimes and things. I
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  Speaker 2: guess they still use it to a certain extent, but
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  Speaker 2: now with AI you can change things right, so it's
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  Speaker 2: not really evidence in the way it used to be.
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  Speaker 2: Would you say that there be something to think about
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  Speaker 2: in the future, Well.
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  Speaker 1: It's definitely something people have to deal with. There is
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  Speaker 1: there always there are ways in which we can I
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  Speaker 1: think they can tell what's being tinkered with with AI
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  Speaker 1: and what hasn't. So as a I gets better AI
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  Speaker 1: that figures out what's AI and what's not gets better
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  Speaker 1: as well. But it is going to become more complicated,
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  Speaker 1: and it's going to become harder, and even most so
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  Speaker 1: I think than in criminal prosecution, where there's a budget
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  Speaker 1: to actually go and figure out what's real and what's
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  Speaker 1: not and what has been tinked or what's not. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we watch videos and photographs all day long on the Internet,
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter and places like that. We see public figures
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  Speaker 1: saying certain things, and I mean, right now you can
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  Speaker 1: tell if it's AI or not. I mean with the
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  Speaker 1: naked eye. So you know, you could have you could
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  Speaker 1: have people saying whatever, whatever the I decides. Now there's
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  Speaker 1: some legal liability there that they're exposing themselves to, so
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  Speaker 1: that's going to limit it. But but yeah, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: a challenge.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sixty years ago there was a Star Trek episode
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  Speaker 2: where they actually had that happen where they said did
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  Speaker 2: something and he knows that he didn't do it. The
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  Speaker 2: video showed you did and it turned out someone tampered
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  Speaker 2: with the video. That was sixty years ago. They were
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  Speaker 2: taking and that it was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but they were thinking of it in
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  Speaker 1: what he was that Stars Star date. Yeah, way, I
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  Speaker 1: had way, way in hundreds of years and year, we
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  Speaker 1: already with the capacity. I mean, AI is creating completing
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  Speaker 1: new realities. I mean you could you could tell it
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  Speaker 1: to make a movie and it makes up the actors
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  Speaker 1: and it's not taking clips and other places. It's literally
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  Speaker 1: making the video up. It's pixel by pixel. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty amazing what he can do. Yeah. Thanks, Jennifer Adam.
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  Speaker 1: You're muted.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, now I'm not muted.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're not.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. I mentioned.
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  Speaker 4: Crash Lending in Love, the Korean TV serial that seems
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  Speaker 4: to be a fan fiction TV cereal, the first one ever,
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  Speaker 4: and when I mentioned it to you, you said that
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  Speaker 4: they are not depicting North Korea realistically. However, the male
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  Speaker 4: protagonist is the son of the chief political officer of
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  Speaker 4: the North Korean Army, very high up in the North
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  Speaker 4: Korean hierarchy, and North Korea is notorious for having Western
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  Speaker 4: style living conditions for its tabnoment platura, which of course
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  Speaker 4: would include him, So I don't think that part is unrealistic.
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  Speaker 4: They don't have any means to show everyday life for
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  Speaker 4: ordinary people in South Korea except in incidents like an
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  Speaker 4: electric train suddenly stops because there's an electricity outage, or
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  Speaker 4: a hospital has no blood for transfusions, So in those
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  Speaker 4: respects it's fairly realistic. And the amazing thing is that
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  Speaker 4: South Korea has enough people to have an audience for
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  Speaker 4: an I ran fan fiction TV show.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's an fan fiction TV show,
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  Speaker 1: but South Korea does have a large audience that has
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  Speaker 1: good taste. I mean a lot of a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the content that coming out of there is really really good,
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  Speaker 1: and I've seen it. I couldn't get into that show.
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  Speaker 1: I found the main character not that interesting, and again
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  Speaker 1: I only watched a few episodes, so and then when
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  Speaker 1: she comes into the village in North Korea, they're way
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  Speaker 1: too happy, And anyway, it wasn't some of the Korean shows.
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  Speaker 1: I love the four of them. I think that I
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  Speaker 1: really love, and then others I watch a few episodes
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  Speaker 1: and I lose interest. But there's definitely a value orientation
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  Speaker 1: to Korean TV shows that doesn't exist in the West.
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  Speaker 1: There's a benevolence and a respect for integrity and respect
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  Speaker 1: for values that I don't see. There's no cynicism that
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  Speaker 1: in these shows.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, they also have a flip side of that
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  Speaker 1: is they have uh what do you call it, The
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  Speaker 1: Something Games uh uh, which which was just awful philosophically
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  Speaker 1: and in every respects and so LifeWise, and I respect
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  Speaker 1: although I didn't watch season two, which I can't believe
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  Speaker 1: would be better squid games.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: But the point is, yeah, I mean, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: There's it's amazing that there are enough people in Korea
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  Speaker 1: two that are interested, that are watching that I engaged with.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: It shows that have no cynicism and uh, that have
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  Speaker 1: heroes and have positive messages and and it's just fun
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  Speaker 1: to watch.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: So Uh, I'd beat just Care a few times and
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  Speaker 1: I I don't know what it is and I and
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  Speaker 1: I I have you know, it's not in the I
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  Speaker 1: don't see it in the people I meet there, but
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  Speaker 1: it's it's got to be somewhere. It's got to be somewhere.
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  Speaker 4: But watching the show, I started getting inrand references from
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  Speaker 4: the very start of the story, when the woman protagonist
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  Speaker 4: is in a clinic in Switzerland that helps people commit
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  Speaker 4: suicide and she doesn't meet the criteria and she's wondering
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  Speaker 4: in a daze out of it, and then she hears music,
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  Speaker 4: and this music is both a reference to Haley's fifth
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  Speaker 4: Concerto in Ata Shrug and the bicycle scene the boy
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  Speaker 4: on the bicycle in the fountain Head. Because it changes
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  Speaker 4: her life, the experience of art changes her life. Now
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  Speaker 4: she's going going to live a positive life and become
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  Speaker 4: an terpreneur and a very successful one.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe I'm skeptical. I mean, her books are in
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  Speaker 1: South Korea. They're translating in Korean. Even my book is
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  Speaker 1: in South Korean is translated, so her books in Korean.
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  Speaker 1: So it could be. It could very well be. But
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  Speaker 1: I think the transformational impact of arts is not unique
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  Speaker 1: tyn Rand. You see that in other other places. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I hope so it'd be great if we've
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  Speaker 1: got a bunch of I think the powerl of Stables
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  Speaker 1: Shock Day even more so in uh god, my favorite
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  Speaker 1: TV show, which is the Korean show anyway, you guys
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  Speaker 1: remember somebody remembers mister mister Sunshine. I think the reference
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  Speaker 1: is even greater. But yeah, I mean, it seems like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how for me to tell whether I'm reading
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  Speaker 1: it into it or if it's there. And it's very
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  Speaker 1: hard to be objective about these things, thanks Adam. Uh
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  Speaker 1: let's see m line.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, Ron, can you hear me?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Yep, here you fine?
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  Speaker 6: Okay. So I don't want this question to sound like
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  Speaker 6: a challenge, because it isn't meant that way, but it's
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  Speaker 6: on a broad sense, it's like ROI on the money
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  Speaker 6: that people donate for objectivist organizations and causes and things
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  Speaker 6: like that. So let me let me just explain this
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  Speaker 6: a little bit more so. For example, you know, the
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  Speaker 6: support that I provide to this, to your channel, as
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  Speaker 6: small as it is in comparison to many other people,
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  Speaker 6: but the best I can do. Uh, you know, I
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  Speaker 6: have two components of that. Like one of them is
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  Speaker 6: for the news, because I really really like the fact
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  Speaker 6: that you put up with all the crap, read the
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  Speaker 6: news and analyze it and in a way that you
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  Speaker 6: know I can I can trust, so I don't have
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  Speaker 6: to spend the time to do that. But secondly would
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  Speaker 6: be you know, to advanced objectivist ideas, So the same
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  Speaker 6: reason I donate to the ARI and to any other organizations.
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  Speaker 6: And I guess the first part absolutely no problem. I
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  Speaker 6: see the ROI. But where is the ROI for the
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  Speaker 6: second part, because nothing I'm seeing and maybe it's just
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  Speaker 6: been such a horrible past few months, you know, that's
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  Speaker 6: kind of bringing me to this. But nothing I've seen
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  Speaker 6: would give me any hope that our ideas are getting
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  Speaker 6: any traction anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: So what does it mean for ideas to gain traction?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So ideas gaining traction in politics? No, zero, zilch, noda
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  Speaker 1: than not. But is that what it means that our
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  Speaker 1: ideas are gaining traction? And how big of attraction counts?
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  Speaker 1: So you know, every week or two I get an email,
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  Speaker 1: a text or something from somebody who says, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you change my life because of your I red iron Ran,
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  Speaker 1: that changed my oh, because of something the institute did,
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  Speaker 1: And that's even more frequent I red iron Ran and those.
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  Speaker 1: So there are people on a regular basis whose life
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  Speaker 1: is being changed because of what I'm doing and what
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  Speaker 1: the institute is doing. Is that having an impact on
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  Speaker 1: the culture? Not yet, not in visible ways, but it
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  Speaker 1: must be having some impact. These people in their lives
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  Speaker 1: are better, they're living better lives, they're happier, they're advocating
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  Speaker 1: for these ideas or they lived by these ideas, so
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  Speaker 1: you know that it's having an impact. But you're right,
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  Speaker 1: the ROI is not visible and that's frustrating and it's difficult.
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  Speaker 1: And when I used to be the CEO of the
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  Speaker 1: Ironrad Institute, it was the biggest challenge of how do
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  Speaker 1: you tell donors what's the return of investment? Where do
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  Speaker 1: they see it? And it's odd. You know, how many
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  Speaker 1: people have read the books, how many students are submitting essays,
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  Speaker 1: how many new intellectuals do we have in our programs?
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  Speaker 1: But none of that translates into on a day to
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  Speaker 1: day basis. I'm not seeing more objective without day in
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  Speaker 1: the streets, or I'm not seeing any politicians or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: That's the reality. And I don't have I don't have
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  Speaker 1: a better roy than just the whatever number of people's
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  Speaker 1: minds are changed in any given on any given day,
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  Speaker 1: in any given week, in any given month, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't have that number because we don't have contact with
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  Speaker 1: all those people.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, fair enough, But I guess you know, if
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  Speaker 6: I just looked since Charlie Kurk with us a ship,
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  Speaker 6: like what's happened now? Like another two million Christian nationalists?
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  Speaker 6: Three million, five million, some ridiculous number.
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  Speaker 1: Right, things are getting worse. I agree with you, sor right,
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  Speaker 1: things are getting.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, exactly right. So you know it's fine that
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  Speaker 6: we're treading water, or we think we're treading water, but
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  Speaker 6: are we right? Like the delusion is coming? Maybe I'm
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  Speaker 6: stretching the analogy, but you know what I mean that
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  Speaker 6: you know we might gain couple of minds every week,
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  Speaker 6: but meanwhile, you know, millions are just going to some
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  Speaker 6: other crazy idea, or we're going to Mundani or again
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  Speaker 6: even getting outside of politics, you know, it just it
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  Speaker 6: just seems like a losing battle. And I wonder at
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  Speaker 6: some point maybe just say, you know what, this is
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  Speaker 6: just a losing battle.
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  Speaker 1: As faust fat as you believe me, I'm even more.
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  Speaker 6: So.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look again, what does it mean to say
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  Speaker 1: it's a losing battle? That is I've always said change
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  Speaker 1: will not come in my lifetime. I will not see
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  Speaker 1: the world. Do we all imagine I won't And I
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  Speaker 1: don't think you will, and I don't think anybody on
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  Speaker 1: this call, well maybe some of the younger people and
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  Speaker 1: maybe Jacobi. I hope that I see the beginnings, like
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  Speaker 1: the little thing coming out of the ground, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that will become a tree one day. I hope I
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  Speaker 1: see the beginnings of that, and to some extent I
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  Speaker 1: do just the quality of the number of intellectuals that
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  Speaker 1: are coming up and who are going to I think
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  Speaker 1: have an impact. So I hope to see that. But
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  Speaker 1: even that, I don't know if I'll see, because it
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  Speaker 1: could very well be that within the next ten years,
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  Speaker 1: America will become an authoritarian state like Russia. We're not
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  Speaker 1: authoritarian in a sense that there no elections, but the
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  Speaker 1: elections are rigged. Not a totalitarian state, but certainly an
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  Speaker 1: authoritarian state. Allah Auburn in Hungary or put In in Russia.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, it'll look like we've lost, but of
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  Speaker 1: course those states ultimately collapse, and then the question is
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  Speaker 1: what were placed them? And even then we don't know
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  Speaker 1: that we've you know, we've really lost. And and when
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  Speaker 1: we have lost, so uh there, it's quite possible that
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  Speaker 1: things will get a lot worse before they get better.
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  Speaker 1: And it's even likely the things will get a lot
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  Speaker 1: worse before they get better. Right now, that's just the reality.
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  Speaker 1: And the changing the culture, changing the world is to
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  Speaker 1: impact the lives of individuals. There'll be individuals who are impacted,
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  Speaker 1: and to work for our kids and our grandkids, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for for for the very distant future. And
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  Speaker 1: then yeah, I mean people online are saying, oh, but Argentina, Gentina,
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  Speaker 1: But Argentina's looking like it's in trouble. I mean, as
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  Speaker 1: much as I love you, bla, even there, the news
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  Speaker 1: is negative right now. Uh, he just got a big
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  Speaker 1: bailout out from from Trump, which is not a good
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: sign that the Trump has to bail him out. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's why he's been sucking up to Trump all these
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  Speaker 1: for the last year, so he could get this bail
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  Speaker 1: out ultimately, and and October's twenty sixth election, it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: look like it's gonna go his way. His popularity in
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  Speaker 1: Argentina is the client significantly, and the real problems, the
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  Speaker 1: real problems. So and I don't believe somebody says optimism
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  Speaker 1: is a duty. I don't believe in duties, period exclamation pod.
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  Speaker 1: And I certainly don't believe optimism is a duty. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't agree with cal Papa.
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  Speaker 7: So so sorry, uh sorry, yeah, I'm not sure what
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  Speaker 7: his name is, right, So yeah, I mean that's the reality,
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  Speaker 7: and and uh, we've got to face we've got to
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  Speaker 7: be honest about that reality and face that reality. Okay, thanks,
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  Speaker 7: all right, thanks Emily Jacob.
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  Speaker 8: Well that's a strong note to follow up with.
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  Speaker 9: Uh. But so my question was, I was listening to
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  Speaker 9: your show on San Piker and the violent calls, and
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  Speaker 9: then I was also thinking of the integration with the
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  Speaker 9: FCC and the arbitrary nature of those laws there. So
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  Speaker 9: how how is the allst violence of Hassan not shouldn't
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  Speaker 9: be something that Hey, you can lock someone in jail
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  Speaker 9: for calling violence against say capitalists, and then say, well
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  Speaker 9: you have to narrow it down to maybe one hundred people,
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  Speaker 9: then you can say, hey, this person deserves to be
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  Speaker 9: locked up in jail.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's an issue of narrowing down
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  Speaker 1: that is. I think that if if he says, go
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  Speaker 1: kill the capitalists, and there is a legitimate reason to
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  Speaker 1: believe that there are people out there who are listening
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  Speaker 1: to that and will act on it, then I think
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  Speaker 1: he can be He can be criminally liable, he could
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  Speaker 1: be that could be incitement. But if he's saying kind
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  Speaker 1: of to to broad people, there's no nap corporate people
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  Speaker 1: that are going to do anything, and indeed nobody has
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  Speaker 1: done anything. You know, go kill the capitalist as a
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  Speaker 1: kind of metaphor for something in part of a rant
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  Speaker 1: that he's really angry or whatever, but it's not literally
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  Speaker 1: you guys over there, you guys, go do it. Then
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it is. Now Again, if you can
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  Speaker 1: link it to some to somebody who is radicalized or
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  Speaker 1: incited by him, then yeah, he should be criminally liable
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  Speaker 1: for that, But as a general statement, the capitalist should
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  Speaker 1: be killed. I don't think is a violation, is incitement,
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  Speaker 1: And this is the difference. I think I answered this
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  Speaker 1: question on one of the shows recently, the difference between
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  Speaker 1: this and Islamism. When the Islamic preacher says, go commit
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  Speaker 1: gye had kill the infidel, he is talking to a
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  Speaker 1: specific number of people who are willing to do that,
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  Speaker 1: who are eager to do that. Who are you know,
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  Speaker 1: taking up bombs and rushing out to do it. It's
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  Speaker 1: not theoretical, it's not part of a rant, it's part
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  Speaker 1: of It's part of a systematized ideology of Vio. That
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  Speaker 1: is that is committed to violence and there are people
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  Speaker 1: waiting for the command to go fulfill it. Now, if
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  Speaker 1: you could show that, if you could show the left
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  Speaker 1: is that that is the people on the left who
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  Speaker 1: view au son Pika in the same way that Islamist
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  Speaker 1: view the locally mom, then I'd say, yeah, I should
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  Speaker 1: go to jail.
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  Speaker 9: So would you say historically it would be something like
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  Speaker 9: the nineteen sixties levels of violence if you had translocated
• 21:42
  Speaker 9: him back into that culture or brought that culture.
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: Up here there has to be a link assassinations.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: There has to be a link between the violence and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: what he's saying. So if a son Pika is the
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: spiritual leader of I don't know, socialists for violence, let's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: call them right and socialist and he says, go kill
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the capitalist, and a week later a socialist for violence
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: kills a capitalist, then it's click cut. Then there's no
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: question about his culpability and responsibility. Right. The further you
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: go from that, the more difficult it is to show culpability.
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: Could you see an area for law enforcement too, Okay,
• 22:26
  Speaker 9: he's not liable, but then you can monitor those groups.
• 22:29
  Speaker 9: And if you see a call for violence like that
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: and then suddenly they buy ten guns and twenty.
• 22:36
  Speaker 10: Knives, would that be yeah, absolute action, Absolutely, And you
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: could show you could show the cause of link between
• 22:45
  Speaker 10: the two, or at least the seeming causal link between
• 22:47
  Speaker 10: the two, and.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: You can show an ideological affinity, and you can show
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: that they acted on what he asked them to do,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: then yeah, absolutely, go after him. So and anybody who
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: calls for violence, even on a theoretical level, should be
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: monitored by law enforcement, because that is, even if it's
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: protected speech that does not mean that they shouldn't be
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: monitored and observed for the chance that it goes from
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: some theoretical musings to something actionable, and when it does,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: law enforcement needs the pounds. So it's not that I think.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I think Cassan Pika, I'm sure is monitored by the
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: FBI because of talk like that. If he's not, then
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: it's a then the FBI is derelict in their duty.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: It's exactly those kinds of things that require monitoring. It
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: just doesn't yet rise the level as far as I
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: know now. They might be evidence to the country where
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: there are people, there's a network of people waiting for
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: the for the command, but as far as I know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: it hasn't yet risen to the level where he would
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: be indicted. But it's certainly at the level where he
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: should be under observation. Okay, like I would, I would
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: authorize a wire tap on Hassan Pika's phone based on
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: that segment of his interview.
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: Right, Well, that makes sense on the specificity is needed there,
• 24:15
  Speaker 9: so helps quarify it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, thanks for asking, all right, I see apple
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Jack says, welcome home from cloudy cool La. It's sunny.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: The sun is shining. Here in Puerto Rico, it's it's
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: eighty nine degrees tonight. You know it'll drop all the
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: way down to I don't know, a freezing seventy nine.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: But I did hear thunder when I came into the office.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: So there are thunderstorms out there in Puerto Rico. You know,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: in California, when it rains, it like rains in like
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: a whole stretch, like one hundred miles everywhere it's raining,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: like everywhere you drive, its raining. It comes in all together.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: And you know when the range every way it rains.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: In Puerto Rico, it could rain like a block from
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: here and never rain where we are. And then you
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: can see the little rain cloud coming and you'll drop
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit of rain on you and then move
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: on and you know another rain cloud will come from
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: somewhere else. So it's rain is different here. It's in
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: that sense. In the tropics it's very it's it's very different.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: So it's it's cloudy over there, it's sunny. It's cloudy
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: not that far from us, but it's sunny where I am. Okay,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: it's since they no super chats, let's go to Jennifer.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: How much of are When you look at a piece
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: of art, how much do you think is how much
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: you appreciate the technical aspect compared to how it hits
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: you emotionally? Do you think the emotional parts more important
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: in the end necessarily?
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it depends. It very much depends
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: on I mean, most people have no clue about the
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: technical parts of it. So for most people's just the
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: emotional hitting. Maybe they can identify some you know, oh,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: look at the fabric, is what a gene it has
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: on there or things like that, So people can appreciate
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: certain aspects of the paintings technical side, but they don't
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: really know much more so, I think it's a large
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: extent depends on what you are bringing to the experience,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: the knowledge that you're bringing into the experience. The more
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: you know, the more you gain appreciations from the technical,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: from the historical, from the contact, from the story being depicted,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: in addition to kind of just the sense of life
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: emotional response that you get. So the more they're integrated,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: the more you know, the less you know. Then obviously
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the sense of life dominates because that's all you have.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: You don't have anything else. So I find like when
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I go like when I was in Italy. Now it's
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: you know, it's I just find it so interesting to
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: look at the art. Okay, is this early fifteenth century?
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Old late fifteenth century? Is it late fourteenth century? Is
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: this a transition between the Middle Ages to the Renaissance?
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Is this high Renaissance? Just because the transitions are so
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: interesting and the change? Is this before they knew about perspective?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Is this after they knew about perspective? And so I
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: can even you know, I can even look at would
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: you do a lot when you're paintings the sculpture of
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Jesus crucified over and over and over and over again.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: But they're all super interesting to me, right, because they're
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: all different and they reflect they still reflect the art
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: a sense of life, because they're all most of them
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: are great art. They all reflect an art a sense
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: of life, and they also reflect the knowledge of the period,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: reflect the approach to religion. And it's like wow, I mean,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: so I can enjoy like crucifixes in a way that
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I couldn't if I didn't have the knowledge of all
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the history of it. And I can abstract a way
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: what's actually going on. You know, there's a there's a
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: church in Florence which has a I think it's a
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: wooden carving of a crucifixion that Michelangelo did when he
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: was young, and and they've identified it as Michelangelo, i'd know,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: in the last twenty or thirty years or something, and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: it's it's hung, it's hung in the church, and you know,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you can kind of tell Michelangelo. Inspired by Michelangelo, you
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: can did something different about that. Then, I don't know
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: a crucifixion one hundred years earlier or coosition by just
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: another artist in the the I have. I have photos
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: that like I have hundreds of photos of crucifixions on
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: my phone because I I at some point I want
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: to do a talk on all the differences between them
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: and what they represent in the sense that and it's
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: good to take the same topic over and over again
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: because then you can you can abstract away the topic
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: and just look at the differences, look at what they
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: do differently, and I find it fascinating and interesting. So
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I respond definitely to odd because of that, because I
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: bring that context into it. There was a I think
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I'm answered this on the show, but there was it's
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: a it's a it's a funny. It's a funny thing.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: But it's like I've got now you know this, there's
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: there's a phenomena which I call the penis phenomena in
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: in art uh in the pre renaiss in the in
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the Renaissance and post Renaissance period where pre Donatello's David,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: they're no penises, right, they're all covered. Post Donatello's David,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: the penises everywhere, like everywhere. It's it's ridiculous, every sculpture
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: everywhere there and they're and they're in your face. They're like,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: there's no I mean, it's amazing once you start paying
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: attention to these things or you know, it's everywhere, and
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: then you get the counter Reformation, so you get you
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: get post Luther, you get the Catholic Church becoming more
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Christian with the you know, the the Inquisition wraps up
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and and they uh and they become more more religious
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: and suddenly all the penises are covered up again. So
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: it's it's fascinating just to look at art through this
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: lens of history and through this lens of of the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: evolving Christian attitudes towards different things, And it was just
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: fun just to I guess, look at penises. I mean,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: observe the way they dealt with penises in the in
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the art of the different periods. You know that Donna
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Tello's David I didn't realize is the first sculpture in
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the round where you can actually walk around it see
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: it from all three hundred and sixty degrees in a
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: thousand years, right, So for a thousand years from Rome
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: until fourteen whatever, when Dona Tella makes this, there's no
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: sculptures in the round. They're all either either they're usually
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: just in now what do you call it, in niches
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: in sighte of buildings or carved in the side of
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: a building, but they're not. So it's the first one
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: in a thousand years that's in the round, and it's
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the first one in a thousand years that's nude, so
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: that means something. And then so you look at David
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: now and you go, oh wow, you know this is
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: like it's not just a great work of art, it's
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: not just it's like symbolic of the you know, the
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Christian era is over. Maybe it's coming back, but Christian
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: airs over. The Renaissance has just begun.
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: Juron, do you think they would have models that they
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: based all the sculptures off of or was this all
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: from imaginations?
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: No, they use models, at least in the Renaissance, they
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: use models. And then of course the other fast anything
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: is you know, there was no there was no Donna
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Tella did not know the muscles, and I mean he
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: knew that only from looking at a model, right, But
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Michelangelo and Leonardo da Vinci, even before Michelangelo both dissecting bodies,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: even though it could have got them, I mean could
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: have got them in real, real, real trouble with the Church.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: They're dissecting bodies at night in secret. They're paying people
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: to dig up graves or to bring them bodies and
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: get disc acted. So they already not only are using models,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: but they now started having a real understanding of the
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: muscular muscles and bones and and joints and how they work,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: and they're doing drawings of those. So uh, And again,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: no bodies were dissected for over a thousand years. I
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: mean people say there was no Dark Ages, and there's
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: a there is. But even in the non dark Ages,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: the Middle Ages, which weren't that dark, which a little
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: less dark put it that way, it's still there's almost
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: there's no synonymical observations. There's no art in around, there's
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: no nudity, and there's no in art, and there's no
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: there's no dissection, and there's no sciences. There's almost nothing happening.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: And then you get the Renaissance. It's like boom and
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: it explodes. It just explodes, and it's so amazing. And
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: so when you know the history like you gain an
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: appreciation for what the art of the Renaissance whatever represents,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: what it means, the cultural contacts, what a mental humanity,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: what immence us. We wouldn't exist without the Renaissance, right
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: whilst freedoms, our life wouldn't be what it is without
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: without the Renaissance happening. And it's just a it's just
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: an explosion of culture, an explosion of pro man culture,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: pro this world culture. That is so you look at
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: the paintings, even paintings of religious topics which dominate Italian Renaissance,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: you see the humanity in it. You see Jesus and
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the Madonna are now a mother and child, and then
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: not just he's a madonna, whereas before the Jesus and
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: the Madonna they're there symbols and now it's like a
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: woman and a child and the giggling or or they're playing,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: or he's sticking his finger in her mouth or sticking,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: you know, partickling or something. They bring humanity to it suddenly,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: and it's individuals. It's human, it's u they're not just abstractions,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: which they were in the Middle Ages.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about movies too, like you know, The
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Wizard of Oz. Do you like that?
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Even though the story it's some kind of political satire,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: it's probably kind of goofy, but it's such a beautiful movie.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: The singing and dancing as sets that.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got a positive sense of life. It's got
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: a great sense of life. Right, it's all about you know,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: it's all about the joys of of of color and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: uh and you know she goes from black and white
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: world to color world and yeah, so it's it's it's
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: very much a sense of life, a positive sense of life.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Movie.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: So there's so many dimensions starts and movie movies, of course,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: are the most complicate complex of other odd films because
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: they have so many dimensions. But yeah, you can enjoy
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: lots of different things within a movie. You enjoy the
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: acting abstract the way everything else you can you can.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: You know, the music is great in that one too, Yeah.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that one. I mean the acting is good, the
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: music's good, the singing, the dancing, I mean, the colors,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: the way it's filmed. Yeah, it's just a fun It's
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: just a fun movie. Thanks Jennefer. All right, Adam.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: One thing that I haven't seen from objectivist sources is
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: the link between having the world's worst philosophy of education,
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: where teachers in that worst philosophy of education started getting
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: turned out from the Columbia University School of Education right
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: after the veterans started coming back from World War Two,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: and then the first teachers and administrators got hired by
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: the most expensive private schools like the one that Donald
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Trump went to. And now we see that a majority
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: of Americans, or at least a majority of American voters,
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: are miseducated in the world's worst anti philosophy of education,
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: and both the Walk Left and the Maga movement reflect
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: a masterminding. People do not think in concepts and principles
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: in this country anymore. The startups are dependent almost completely
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: Number one, and the very few Americans who went to
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Montessori schools and childhood. But the majority the immigrants from
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: countries with the better education system. That's a massive impact.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: And I think Heinrand called her essay and this the Comprachicos,
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: But very few Americans have read The Man Who Smiles
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: or are familiar with European folklore, so her title probably
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: went over everybody's head. But still at least the objectivist
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: institutions should draw attention to this.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think Lenna doesn't why Johnny can't
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: read or why Johnny can think. I think it was
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: why Johnny can't think. And yeah, I mean we've talked
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: a lot over the years about progressive education, how evil
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: it is, and how bad it is. You know, I
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: travel around the world, and sadly, it's not clear that
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: people in other countries are that much better off a
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: little bit. I always thought the Brits were better, and
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: now I look at the Brits and they're terrible. And
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: you know, the rest of Europe is struggling, and the
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: United States is doing very well, maybe not for very long,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: but has been doing you know. So we've talked about
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: this in the past. One is I think a lot
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: of kids go to Montssouri so a lot more kids
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: in a lot of kids. There's Montssori schools everywhere in America.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Some of them are not that good, but there are
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of Montissouri schools. I think you overemphasize the
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: world of immigrants. While I think it's huge.
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: You don't.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: You're about to see what happens when you don't have immigrants.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: So we will test this theory out very soon here
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: thanks to Donald Trump, given that not only are we
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: accepting fewer immigrants, but people are not going to come
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: here because we're so unwelcoming to them that they We're
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: going to see what happens in America with fewer immigrants.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: But but yeah, I mean yeah, mindlessness is this is
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: why Johnny can't think. You can't think, You really really
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: really can't think. Americans can't think because of progressive education.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: And sadly, it would be great if we could say
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: that people in X country could think, maybe they can
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: think a little bit better than Americans. But it's still
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: it still seems that the whole world is struggling around
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: is struggling and has been struggling. But yes, I agree,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: it's we've got to put a lot more focus on
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: progressive education, and we're not going to change anything until
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: we change education. Until people start thinking. You can't have
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: going back to Amlin's question, you can't have a cultural
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: impact unless you have a culture that is open to thought.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: And sadly, we have a culture that is pretty blocked
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: out the idea of thinking. Is too much effort, too
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: many people.
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Well, I could mention one country where most sorry is
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: the standard preschool curriculum, but you'll tell me again, I'm
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: overdoing it.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I think you're probably overdoing it. The country's Poland, And yeah,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I mean Poland's doing well. How well we'll see, but yes,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: And also how good is the Montssori education is always
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: a good question. I mean, I know a lot of
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Monissori schools that are now really Montssori. You've got to
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: get that right. But there are a lot of Montessori
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: schools Italy where Montsouria, of course, king from I don't
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: think has many, sadly, and I don't see many in
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Europe generally. I think it's big in India or so India.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's big in Poland, and it's big in
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: the United States, but I don't see it in much
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: of the rest of you up sadly Umlin.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So one of the reasons why some people voted
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: for Trump was they said that he would be better
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: for Israel. In fact, I think you had a guest
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: who specifically said that. I think his term was I'd
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: hold my nose and vote.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: For him because Adam also have said that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: Yep, right right. I guess I'm actually wondering if there's
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: a counterfactual here that you know, would actually Israel had
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: been better off with a Kamala because she wouldn't have
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: a cut Jill to hold over them all the time
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: the way Trump seems to have. Again, Okay, well, what
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: is youel actually have been better off with Kamala because
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: she would have probably abandoned them. She would have said no, no, no,
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: you know, I'm not going to support you. But then
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: Israel would have now whether they actually would have done this,
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: but they would have had to kind of go it alone, yep.
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: And she wouldn't have had as much influence over the
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: country as Trump has. You know, like just the other
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: day when he said, like, okay, there has to be
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: peace and guys or whatever the heck he said at
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: two o'clock in the morning, right yeah, no, doubt changed
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: at three. But you know, he because he's always got
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: this thing he can say, listen, you know, if you
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: don't do what I say, I'm going to cut off
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: this or you know, implied or or or or open threats.
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: Would Israel perhaps have been better off to just perspect, Okay,
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: we don't have the US to support us, and we're
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: gonna go and deal with it. Or without that US support,
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: they'd be in deep, deep trouble. Bad as as as
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: qualified as the support is.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I think the problem with anything
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: good Trump does is it's that Trump is doing it. Yeah,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: so I think I think his support of Israel is
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: not necessarily that helpful, and I think it's it also
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: is creating a full sense of security in Israel that
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: they can get away with stuff that maybe they cannot.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: But it's hard to tell what would have happened if
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Kamala was there. There's certainly is an argument of the
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: counterfactual that that yes, she, she would have tried to
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: stop them, but they would have gone it alone, and
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: there's a benefit to that. They wouldn't have been dependent
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: on the United States as they are now. But it's
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: hard to tell it's hard to tell how things would
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: have evolved. It's hard to tell exactly what's going to
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: come of this. Right, So, supposedly he's got a peace plan.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: It's going to stop Israel from actually taking Gaza. You know,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: they're in Gaza City now, they are days weeks away
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: from control over Gaza City completely. And he says he's
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: got a peace plan. Supposedly, what's his name, the former
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Prime Minister of England, Tony Blair is going to be
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: the president of Gaza during the reconstruction and uh, they're
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: going to have a multinational force there to keep the peace.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: And but who knows, you know, this is a Tony
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: blast supposedly Tony babe uh plan. Who knows what comes
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: of that? Who knows what would have happened with Iran?
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: If Kamala was in in there? Would she what? What? What?
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: What would she have done? If Israel started bombing?
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: You on?
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Would the fact that she wouldn't have bombed the facility?
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Would that have encouraged Israel to keep going? Which is
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: what I think they needed to do?
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: That That's exactly the question I was going to ask you.
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: Would they have actually kept going and done the regime change,
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: because I don't think it was that far away.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think so either. I think I think
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: that were I think it was weeks away. If they
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: would have weakened the internal structures more gone after the
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Supreme Leader, if they killed the Supreme Leader, they'd gone
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: after more of the which which Trump didn't want them
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: to do, he told them not to do. If they
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: on after the clerics, I think they could have achieved
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: regime change. I said so at the time with Kamala.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Would they have done that? Maybe?
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: No.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I think there's a legitimate, the legitimate argument. And look
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Israel today, because Trump is their only friend or suppose friend,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: is completely isolated. It's much much more isolated than it
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: was internationally than it was six nine months ago. And
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: it is really going to be a problem for them if,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I particularly if some of these countries put economic sanctions
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: on them, h and they're already putting military sanctions. It's
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a real challenge for as well
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: moving forward in terms of I mean Nataniozos is saying,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: he is already saying Israel need to prepare itself to
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: be spota. Spota means self sufficient, right, which is horrible.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: And by the way, more Americans attorney against Israel the
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Israel has. There's more antagonism towards Israel today. I'm both
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: left and right than ever before. And that is not
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: helped by Trump's support. It's hurt by Trump's support.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: But if it's just a related question, though, would you
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: see any Western nation actively taking military action against Israel
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: or it wouldn't get to that level.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think you will get to that. It's
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: going to be interesting with the Italians, and I think
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: somebody else sending.
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: And the Spaniards too, right.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sending ships for this flotilla. I have a feeling
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: they'll be neutralized in ways that do not create confrontation. Okay,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: we'll see. But but no, I don't think so. I mean,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: the closest you could get. And this is of course
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: a real threat. And this is of course the damage
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is doing. Is Turkey and Trump Trump
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: is now talking about giving Turkey F thirty five's I know,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: and algo other one is his best friend. Of course,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: other one's an authoritarian. Trump loves the change, so Tooki's
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: probably the biggest threat to Israel in terms of NATO
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: members and maybe the biggest threat in the Middle East
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: if if it can act independent of the United States.
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: Okay, thanks, I'm asking all the optimistic questions today.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, right, Jacob.
• 48:27
  Speaker 9: I will say, though, that calf that Trump had about
• 48:30
  Speaker 9: herd Wan and rigged elections was pretty hilarious.
• 48:32
  Speaker 8: I'm not sure if you saw that.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't see that.
• 48:37
  Speaker 9: They had a prep conference and they were talking about
• 48:39
  Speaker 9: twenty twenty oh yeah, and it was rigged elections. And
• 48:44
  Speaker 9: then he's like, and this guy heard One knows a
• 48:46
  Speaker 9: lot about rigged elections.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Yep. And somebody kind of admirably, but you know, admiringly,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: not not as a criticism.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Yea.
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: The best was seeing his face. Heard One was just like,
• 48:57
  Speaker 9: I don't know what to do here, but my question
• 49:01
  Speaker 9: so good news follow the bad news. I just got
• 49:06
  Speaker 9: engaged this two weeks ago, so going to the courthouse
• 49:12
  Speaker 9: to finish it up on next Friday. Any advice or stuff.
• 49:18
  Speaker 9: We've been dating for roughly four years, so not much
• 49:22
  Speaker 9: has changed, but any advice for the first year or
• 49:24
  Speaker 9: two years of marriage. We already taught kids, probably going
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: three four years from after kids, so now it's just
• 49:34
  Speaker 9: finishing out career, probably doing one more year or maybe
• 49:37
  Speaker 9: a year and a half in Saint Louis, and then
• 49:39
  Speaker 9: relocate the more friendly city and place where I can
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: get more engineering experience rather than operations.
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: Good because I've been in operations for about five and
• 49:48
  Speaker 8: a half years.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: No, I think that's right. I think the most important
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: thing is if you want to have kids, is to
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: talk about it and figure out when have some time
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: you are married without kids, so that you really have
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: a chance to explore that. Once kids arrive, you know,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: they dominate everything. They they suck the life out of you.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, they suck the time out of you. I
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: didn't mean that to be as a negative, but they
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I mean it really is. It's overwhelming, it's all consuming,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: and it's it's very difficult. So you want to when
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: you have kids, you want to be in a position where, yeah,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: you've been together for such a long time and you've
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: you've gone through stuff that you know each other, you
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: know how you're going to deal with it, you know
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: how you're going to handle everything. You're not you're not
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: learning about each other while you're also dealing with kids.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, the main thing is is uh is
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: to to embrace this idea of living a life together,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, how you're going to do it,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: what it's all going to mean, to really give it
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: to to fight through it, because you're gonna you're gonna
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: have challenges, You're you're gonna you're gonna have things you
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: disagree on, things, you get upset about things, and and
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: if you're worth it each other to fight through those things.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Communication, communication, communication, that's not a cliche. Talk about stuff.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Don't let problems or issues or things that you have
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: between you faster. Uh, don't let anything you know hash
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: it out before you go to sleep at night. Don't
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: don't sleep on a on a pissed off with a
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: pissed off attitude. Uh. And uh, you don't have lots
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: of sex because again, once you have kids, that will diminish.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: So you might as well take advantage of the fact
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: that before and and you know again, because you plan
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: on having kids, travel do things that you know for
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: the first ten years of having kids won't be able
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: to do. Just just be realistic about that. You know,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: you can go and short vacations and stuff if you've
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: got people who will babysit, but generally you're going to
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: have very little time alone, so cherish the time that
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: you have alone. And I know everybody's like, yeah, he's
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: exaggerating having kids.
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: It's no.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: All the people who have kids all going yeah, absolutely,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Jan's absolutely right. All the people who not yet had
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: kids are going, No, he's exaggerating it. No, it's life
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: changing in a good way, but also in a sense
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: of it's life changing. It's it's so things that you
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: want to do that about the two of you do
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: over the next three four years before you actually have kids,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: embrace it, travel, see the world, you know, do fun
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: stuff together. Yeah.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:54
  Speaker 9: My parents are very active with supporting, so I know
• 52:58
  Speaker 9: they would be there and small.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Well if you move away though, they might not be right.
• 53:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, but they would come out and visit.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 53:05
  Speaker 9: I know they're award retirees, so here he that's why
• 53:08
  Speaker 9: they're doing that urification.
• 53:10
  Speaker 8: That's a side question there.
• 53:11
  Speaker 9: So she's Taiwanese Canadian, So then it would be for
• 53:15
  Speaker 9: me if I wanted to get status in either country,
• 53:19
  Speaker 9: what do you recommend? Probably Taiwan rather than just Canada
• 53:23
  Speaker 9: for global tax on Canada.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Too, Canada doesn't have global tax. Oh okay, Canada doesn't
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: have global tax I mean Taiwan, if you one day
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: want to become a Chinese citizen, No, it's.
• 53:36
  Speaker 8: An Eastern Taiwan and Western Taiwan.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Eastern. Well, yeah, that would be good. I mean I
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: always said, you know, about China taking over Hong Kong,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: that Hong Kong might take over China, And for a
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: while I thought that was happening, that Hong Kong was
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: taking over China. And then and then it kind of
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: flipped on me. You know, I don't know, get them both.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: What the hell I'm for maximizing the number of passports.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I know these days that's un American and you have
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: split loyalties, and they might they might go after you
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: for having multiple passports this administration, particularly if you're Jewish.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: You're not Jewish, I don't think Colin No, yeah, but
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: if you Judwistion you haven't is really passport, you're obviously suspect.
• 54:21
  Speaker 9: And and when I do get a pan, some people
• 54:25
  Speaker 9: call me Arabic, Okay, Tunisian or Turkish.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: So there you go.
• 54:29
  Speaker 9: I've been I've been keeping myself very pale to avoid
• 54:32
  Speaker 9: all the controversy that comes.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Don't get sun tanned oh god, Yeah, I'm waiting for
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: my my meeting at ICE to talk about my h
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: my position.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Thanks.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Thanks Jacob, all right, holding, Hey, you're on.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: I was I guess like similar on the topic. I
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: was wondering, like I did see this video that was
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: h like, oh, you should get married at like before
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: twenty five, right, I think that's like silly, honestly, but
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: I don't maybe it's.
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: Different for other people. I don't know.
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: I don't have like a strong opinion. I guess I'm
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: just like curious, abo what you would think. I was
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: Ben Shapiro, I think, or some you know, conservative guy.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: But I'm shocked. I'm shocked that yeah. Yeah, but no,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: it's just like I'm just like, according to Jordan peterc.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: You don't become mature, you're not in a mature adult
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: until you have kids. And if you don't have never
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: had kids, you just never you're out on the maturity thing.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: You you're never gonna You're never gonna make it immaturity.
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: I just I just I listened to these conservatives. I'm like,
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: how can anyone believe this? Like it's just so stupid
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: to me.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Well, but they're growing as as Almalin told us that
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Charlie Cook thing, I think Turning Point has just added
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: to million Christians or something to their network or something
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: ridiculous like that. They're growing in leaps and bounds. There
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: is no age. You get married when you ready to
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: get married, right. I got married very young, so twenty
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: you know, younger than twenty five, and I lecked out
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: and it worked out great, right, And it turned out
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: really well for us because we in many respects, we
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: grew up together. So we kind of learned about life
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: and learned about the world and everything together. So you know,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: we grew only stronger because we were so young and
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: had all these adventures and learned objectivism and and learn
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: about art and learn about you know, just a lot
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: of things. But just everything was together. And we didn't
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: have kids for seven years after we got married, so
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: I had that time. It was just the two of
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: us and and and so. But look, you got to
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: find the right person. And I know people who get
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: married in their thirties and forties and have amazing marriages
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: and people who get married in the early twenties and
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: have horrible marriages. And it's not an age thing. It's
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: an issue of finding the right person. Uh uh and
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: uh you know, uh working on the relationship and investing
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: in it and fighting for it and and uh and
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: then and then and then living it. So uh no,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: I mean there's there's no rule, there's no criteria. I mean,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: the only the only limitation on age is if you
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: want to have kids, the woman, you know, has to
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: be fairly young, just because just because, and there is
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: growing risk the older you get in terms of uh
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: child in terms of childbirth. But that's not twenty five.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: That's maybe thirty five for a woman, but it's you know,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: it's uh or forty really, but it's Yeah, I mean,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: the hard part is finding the right person. If you
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: find them on you you're really young, great as I did, fantastic.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: If you don't find them until you're thirty five or
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: forty five or fifty five or sixty five, whenever you
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: find them, you don't do it, don't. It's not a
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: it's not a timeline thing.
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, That's how I'm like, I honestly probably won't find
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: someone I like for a long time.
• 58:19
  Speaker 8: But I'm fine with.
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: That, you know, like I but yeah, like trying to
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: trying to trying to like say, before twenty five is
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: just like it's ridiculous.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. So just I mean, the important thing is
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: to keep looking and not to give up on it,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: and to be engaged and like everything else in life,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: if it's a value, and it should be a valued,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: there's a value to have a relationship, then go and
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: really work on it, you know, pursue that value. Fair thanks, sure,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: all right, let's do some super Chaz Ali says, just
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: saying thanks for the twenty dollars all I really appreciate it.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Rab But from Australia, Barry weissly argued, we need a
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: charismatic centrist to bring America back from the brink post
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Charlie Cook. Surely such a person is impossible. I can't
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: imagine a passionate pragmatist ever gaining traction. I mean, I
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: don't know. Bill Clinton again, you know, was very popular
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: and gained traction. He was a passionate pragmatist. Who else
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: would be a pragmatist who his? I mean the ultimate
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: pragmatist in nine Rand's view was JFK. And JFK was
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: quite charismatic and people really liked him and followed him,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: and he was he was definitely a pragmatist. He was
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: like the ultimate pragmatist, according to Rand. So I think
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: the point is that Barry's saying, and I think she's right,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: is there is an appeal right now to somebody who's
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: just normal. It was not woke, who doesn't buy into
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: the whole woke agenda and all the craziness on the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: left programas you know, insanity from the left, and is
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: not a Christian nationalist and just a thug on the right,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: just uh, just straight up regular American politician. And you know,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: in order to attract attention, because given he'd have to
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: have some charisma. Now what does that look like? I
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: don't know exactly, but again, an RFK, Bill Clinton a
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, all the presidents were like that, with the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: exception of maybe what's his name, uh, Ronald Reagan, who
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: pretended to be an idealist, ultimately was quite a pragmatist.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: They were all kind of pragmatists. Who wasn't a pragmatist
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: the whole line of the Nixon, I mean, he had
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: no charisma and he was a pragmatist. But I think
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: rfk's a model Clinton's a model Obama. There's another one Obama.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think Obama has charisma
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: and is a pragmatist and it is passionate. I never
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: liked him. I never got it. I never got what
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: people saw. I thought he was full of empty platitudes.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: You know, he gave an empty speech that said nothing
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: meant nothing. But that's what people, that's what it means
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: to be a centrist. To be a centrist means you
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: stand for nothing. And what we need is a I
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: guess what we need just to avoid the insanity out there.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: What we need is a is a charismatic zero, a
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: charismatic somebody who stands for nothing. And yeah, for me
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: and you, that's not charisma, but for the country it
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: seems to be. And but I think it's too late
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: for that. Sadly, I think it's too late for that.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: I I don't know how a person like that wins,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: How how who who? Who supports him? And it's not
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: clear that you could create the electoral infrastructure. I mean,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Elon Musk floated the idea of doing it, of starting
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: a political party like that, and it's kind of he's
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: kind of disappeared, he's kind of shut up about it
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: because I think the enormity of the task has become
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: real to him and he's decided now he's just not
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: going to do it. So if Elon Musk can't do
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: it with his billions and billions, and who's going.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: To do it?
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I just, I just it strikes me as is just
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: too late to helping. A party is finished. Democratic Party
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: is probably finished. Yeah, I don't I don't see the
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: solution is a third party. But I just don't see
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: who is going to get it all set up and
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: who is going to make it happen and make it work.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: If not an Elne Mosk, I'm not sure who can.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: And the Elawn is too wacky, I think to pull
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: it off. He's too all over the place anyway, Good question,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: Rob a passionate pragmatist. But yeah, they exist. They exist
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: because of what Adam told us. The unthinking public can't
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: see through their emptiness and through their platitudes and through
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: their empty slogans and think there's something real there. They
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: give the much more credit than they deserve. They don't
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: see the complete emptiness of those characters. Ishn't out weshipt
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not idea what that means anyway. National Geographic made
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: a magazine on shipwrecks. This is recently twenty twenty five,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: a return to form. Didn't know pepper was worth its
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: weight in gold in the fourteen hundreds, Yeah, I mean
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: in the fourteen hundreds, in the early days of exploration,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: in the early days of trade with a global trade,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: fourteen and fifteen hundreds, when ships would go around the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Cape of Good Hope, around the Horn of Africa and
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: to trade with Asia. What they traded for was spices.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Spices were saffron and pepper and other spices. And there
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: were islands on the Indonesian as part today I think
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: is of Indonesia, the Philippines. They were called the spice
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Islands where most of these spices were grown. And it
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: was like this is what they fought was over. They
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: fought war was over spices for food. I mean, this
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: is why, I mean, this is the reality, guys. European
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: food is flavorless, tasteless, it's yucky, disgusting, like old English food,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: right until until they discover spices. And then only then
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: can you get French cooking and you can get actually
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: good European food. And most good European food is in
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: the West and South because those the places are traded
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: with Asia. Like, with all due respect to Adam, Polish cooking, eh,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: not that much going for it, or German cooking or
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Danish cooking except for the fancy restaurants today or I
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: don't know, Chech cooking eh.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: But once you get to France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, they
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: had the spices. They they were connected to Asia into
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Arabia where all these spices were being you know, grown,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: and they could cook. Everybody else couldn't cook. You know,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: there's there's no there's no good food there anyway, the
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: born Jesus was full of it. Twenty kilos twenty kilograms
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: and mint coins and ivory trade is awesome. Yeah, there's
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: a great book if you if you like that kind
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: of stuff, ess out question. I reckon commend this book
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  Speaker 1: called called called called It's it's really good. It goes
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  Speaker 1: into all the details of the spice trade and just
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: trade in all of human history. And I read it recently,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: and I will give you the name of it in
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: a second. Something it's not that's not that all right? Oh? Yes.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: A Splendid Exchange. A Splendid Exchange by William Bernstein a
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: splendid Exchange by William Bernstein. It is brilliant. It is
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: so much fun. And he goes through the whole history
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: of trade to modern times and he spends a lot
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: of time on that, on that spice trade and uh
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: and yes, spices. Well, the age in Europe they would
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: send silver to Asia and bring back bring back cloth,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: silk and uh and uh and spices and ultimately tea. Right,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: but it was all about and then you know coffee.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Coffee became a big culture thing and now was from Africa.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: When it comes to food, Europe, yeah, Europe still needs
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: an enlightenment. But when it comes to everything else, Europe
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: is the place. But uh not flavor all right, Lucinda,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Lacinda says, you said I should email you about my
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: question with my girlfriend going to Florence, but I can't
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: find your email address. Also can't watch live right now.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: But everyone sends stickers and super chats. Yeah, listen to Lacinda.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: We're way behind on stickers and super chats. Uh. Let's see.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Uh you're on at your on bookshow dot com. It's easy,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Liscinda youran at your on bookshow dot com. I'm surprised
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: you couldn't just find that on the web. I thought
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: my email address is floating around everywhere. Michael, I have
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: a ton of questions for you once they get home
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: in thirty minutes. Don't end the show early. If I do,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: I'll be on Tomorrow, and I'll be on Monday, and
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: I'll be on Tuesday and Wednesday and Thosday. You'll have
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: plenty of time to ask the questions, Michael. But I'm
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: not sure when you said that, so I'm not sure
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: when the thirty minute clock starts. All let's go back
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: to a panel, Jennifer.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Do you think if someone gets divorced like multiple times,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: it's maybe evidence. I don't think it's proof because they
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: maybe they had bedlock or something. But it could be
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: evidence that maybe they have some kind of issues that
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: they can't sustain relationships, or something wrong there or not necessarily.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Well, it might be I think an's sustained vidato. It
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: might be that they have make bad judgments about people,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: that they get too enthusiastic too quickly and too unenthusiastic
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: too quickly. That is that they don't judge people. Well, yeah,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's hard to tell. It could
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: be bad luck. It could be just not having good
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: judgment when it comes to people. I think those are
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: the two options. Yeah, and it could Yeah, people grow apart,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: so divorce make It doesn't surprise me at all that
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: people get divorced. It makes sense to me. I think
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: the idea of banning divorce as divorce was banned for
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: a long time under Christianity is sota ridiculous. People do
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: grow apart, people do discover once they live together that
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: they they're not as good of a match as they
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: thought they were. And life you only live once. So
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: if it's not working, it's not working. You got to
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: recognize that and walk away and try to make it
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: work somewhere else. But if you do that, I don't know,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: many times, then they certainly might be an issue. Thank you,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Thanks Jennifer. All right, Adam um okay.
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  Speaker 4: At the risk of overdoing Poland again, I recently saw
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: a video of new military technologies that are being developed
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: with the experience of the Ukraine War, and two.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Of them involved neural.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: Network processing units, which are now as standard part of
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: processing units for computers. And one of them is probably
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: outside your area of expertise, which is AI adaptive mess
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: networks which adapt themselves to whatever jamming the enemy is doing,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: and a mesh network is much more resistant resilient than
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: a satellite based network like starlink. But the other is
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: really interesting, which is having an array of machine guns
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: and low caliber cannon as an anti aircraft defense, with
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: AIB used to predict the path of drones so that
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: you can shut them down at very low cost, because
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: a bullet or even cartridge for a low caliber machine
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: gun doesn't cost very much, and those armaments are already
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: available in large quantities. It's just the matter of aiming
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: and firing them.
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  Speaker 3: In intelligence. What's your take, Yeah, I mean, I.
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  Speaker 1: Think I think all of that makes sense. The war
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: in Ukraine in particular, much more than Israel's wars, the
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: one Ukrainie in particular is revealing kind of the future
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: of the potential future of warfare. The use of drones
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: is extensive. It really dominates the battlefield. You don't hear
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: about tanks, you don't hear about personnel carriers anymore. It's
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: just everything pretty much is carried out by drones and missiles.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: And so I think the Ukrainians, the stuff the Ukrainians
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: have built is pretty unbelievable. The amount of I think
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: I talked about in the previous show. Just a number
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: of drones they're building and the capabilities of their drones
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: that they've learned on the battlefield is right there. I
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: think a lot of what the Ukrainians are doing, or
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: some of what the Ukrainians are doing, or joint ventures
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: with the Poles. The Poles are highly incentivized because you know,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: they are right there facing facing the Russians, and they
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: have a long, long, long history of conflict with Russia.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: So they highly incentivized to learn whatever they can from
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: the battlefield in Ukraine and improve on their technology. You know,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: the future of war. I think Neil Ferguson has a
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: article out this last week about the future of war. Now,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't think that Neil Ferguson knows what
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: the future war is, but his perspective is the future
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: war was all drones. It's drone swarms, it's drawn swarms
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: coming for you, and you're just overloaded with thousands of drones.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: You can't do anything. It completely shuts you down. Of course,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: the technology talked about and other technology is also going
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: to make it possible to knock down those drones. Uh,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: and there's all kinds of also, you know, the electronic
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: in difference will become more and more complicated and more
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: almst sophisticated. But and I don't know if you saw
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: the Israeli just is just operationalized and is putting into
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: the field. They laser technology, which is very very cheap.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: You just need an electricity source and you can you
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: can knock down for almost nothing drones and missiles and
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: everything else. So there is going to be a big
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: battle between the drones and the anti drone technology, and
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: and it's hard to tell who's going to win that battle.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I think that's why I don't think you can tell
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: what the future war is because you don't know who's
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: going to win that battle. And if it might be something,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: what's next after drones? If they're lasers and these machine
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: guns and whatever neutralize the drones, then what comes after drones?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: And you know it's going to be it's gonna be something.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Uh And uh, we're gonna just have to watch the
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: future of Wolfare and watch how it develops and evolves
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: to see what that actually is going to be.
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  Speaker 4: I think the key thing that I took out of
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: it is that all these systems adapt in real time
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: using artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, you're going to see a lot more of that,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: a lot more of that. And then the question is
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: going to be how much autonomy are you going to
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: give these systems? That is, you know, to what extent
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: can you put safeguards in there that they don't turn
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: around and attack you or they don't attack the wrong
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: targets so they don't do make judgments judgments in parent
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: in quotation marks because not real judgments. It's just a
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: machine judgments about targets that that inappropriate. And you're gonna
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: have to build those safeguards into the a I and
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: that is I think that is a challenge everybody's facing.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: The technology is there to let these things go and
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: and uh and and make the call without human interference.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: There's still a lot of reluctance to let them, to
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: let them completely loose out there. But yeah, I mean
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: the future of wolf is AI machines fighting each other.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: That that's the future, whether it's drones, whether it's robots.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're seeing the robots coming out of
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: China that have that that have these incredible abilities of agility, uh,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: you know, tanks that are unmanned, uh, you know it
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: planes that are on manned F thirty five with no pilot. Uh.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: That is that that is ultimately the future of wolf It.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: Thanks Adam home One.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so you're on. You've mentioned many times in your
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 6: show about the differences between Trump's current kind of cabinet
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 6: and his first term. And you you know, I think
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: you use a term like in the first In the
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: first case, you know, he had grown ups in the
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: room and now he's got loyalists.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 6: And I guess my question would be and again like
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 6: forget it that it's Trump, which I know it is
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 6: hard to do, but let's just set that aside. But
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 6: in principle, though, is it not legitimate that the president
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: will want to have a cabinet that will reflect his
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 6: ideas and vision and all those things? And given private sector,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 6: I mean that's pretty common, right, Like, if you have
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 6: a new leadership put in, it's not uncommon that you're
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: going to start to make changes, and that definitely, you know,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 6: people in key positions and stuff, you're going to replace them. Yeah,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: why not the same thing?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: And both absolutely you should replace them and put in
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: people that basically aligned with you strategically. But what you
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: don't want is yes man. That is, if you're a
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: new CEO at a company and you're going to replace
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: the c suite executives, you don't want to put in in. Indeed,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: often CEOs don't do that. They keep many of the
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: people because because they want continuity. But let's say if
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: you bring in a new chief financial officer, you don't
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: want a chief financial officer will just do whatever you
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: tell them. You want a chief financial officer that'll come
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: to you with if their issues, if he identifies challenge problems,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: if he sees inconsistencies, if he thinks your strategy is
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: going to cause the company to be in trouble. You
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: want somebody who will mention. Now, will tell you the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: same with your chief what is it, chief operating officer,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: any of your c suite people. You want people who
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: will speak up, who will challenge, who will have an opinion,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: who will have and won't just say, oh you think that,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: then it's yes. It's it's like every team, assuming this
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: is a team, it's like every team. What you want
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: is independent thinkers. You want people who can think for you,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: for themselves and who will contribute their own independent thought
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: and not just maw you know, repeat what you say,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: like like you know the people around Trump, So you
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: want people who agree with you on a strategy and
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: are willing to challenge you on how to implement it.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: But and well independent think.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: So but if we if we look at his current cabinet,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, whatever the heck strategy has, I mean, it
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: seems like people agree with it.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think. I don't think that's the case. No,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think best agrees. I think
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: it just goes along and the other people there. Look,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: there's no strategy. I mean what they agree is what
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: they agree is Trump is always right. Now, that's not
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: a strategy. And that's not a good team to have
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: around you, people who think you're always right. It's it's
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: a bad that's a bad strategy. If you if you're
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: somebody who wants to get stuff done, the worst thing
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: you can do is create a team around you who
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: think that you can never do wrong. Everything you do
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: is right. Yeah, that's the people he has around Yeah,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: it's not like I guess here's my here's here's my
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: strategy for fixing America. I'm gonna do this on from policy.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this on spending, on taxes, da da
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: da da da da, And people say, yeah, I agree
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: with that. I'm going to join the cabinet.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: The strategy is, you know, I'm gonna do whatever. I'm
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: going to raise tabifs or not. I'm gonna give exclusions
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: here on not. We're gonna cut taxes over there, and
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: we're going to increase spending or not. It depends. We'll
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: wing it, and it depends on my mood at any
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: given point in time. Anybody says, oh, okay, that's fine.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I guess. I guess that's the thing. When
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 6: you have somebody that just basically has no direct action
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 6: at all.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: It's the only direction he has is the pursuit of
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: his own whatever, you know. And Tavish, he loves Tavish.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: And I don't know how many people in that cabinet
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: actually think Taos is a good idea. I don't know.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: It's hard to tell, because they've all basically prostituted themselves.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: They've given up on their own minds, and they've they've
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: accepted whatever.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, which which I don't know, like to me, it's
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 6: just It's it's something I can't even comprehend, Like, how
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: can you be so what is such of the perks
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 6: of the job that you're so willing to just give
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 6: up everything? Like to me, it's it just it boggles
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 6: my mind.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: What kind of person are you? Thanks?
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: Thanks?
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: You sure? Holding m hey you're on.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you, like at this point, like
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: I guess like the Republican Party seems to be getting
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: more religious and and they really like like the kind
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: of like populist message.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: I guessed, would you.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: Say, like Ben Shapiro or Tucker Carlson is like more
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: like if they were to like be in the Republican
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: primary and they could Republicans can only go for Ben
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: Shapiro or Tucker Carlson, who do you think they would
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: pick to win?
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's a hard one. I wanted to say, I
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: hope that they would pick Ben Shapiro, but I'm not
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: at all certain of that, particularly given the Ben as Jewish.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure how well you could do in the
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: Republican Party these days.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 5: You know, there's like a lot of anti Semitism too,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: like going around as you know better than I do,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: probably like yeah, it's like scary to see like I
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 5: and Ben Shapiro like uh, you know, like even like
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: what seven years ago, he was like the face and
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: then he kind of just dropped off because like his
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: foreign policy became a popular and like all that stuff.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: Right, So he's from policy, the fact that he's Jewish,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: the fact that he still defends capitalism periodically, he's still
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: good on some issues, none of that is important or
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: significant to them, and he still thinks to himself sometimes
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: so h and and that's and he's not he doesn't
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: buy into the conspiracy theories mostly, so you know that.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: So he's more rational than the typical Republican pundit and
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: that makes him unpopular. That's the Republican party today.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember he criticized Trump's terrorists, Like I was
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: gonna write in the chat. Everybody knows Trump is a buffoon, right,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 5: Like everyone's like, oh, Trump is a threat to democracy
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: all this, Like I just look at it, like this
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: is like funny, Like he's just a He's just a pompous,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 5: ostentatious buffoon. Is like what That's all I really think
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: about him. But you know, but I mean Ben Shapiro
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 5: knows that, but he's just like you know, but he
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 5: has like the he will like, like you say, he
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: will like criticize Trump on like something stupid like terrorists,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: But you know he's he probably like has convinced himself
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: that what he's done is like okay, you know, I
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: don't know, but it's just like such a sad thing
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: to see.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: It's sad. It's sad, and it's it's really hard to
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: tell where where the the where this goes from here?
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: How how you know? Does the public can party go
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: become worse? So does it? Is this the bottom and
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: it becomes better from here? It's it's hard to tell.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: It looks like it's getting worse with like the Charlie
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: Kirk memorial and how religious?
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: Is that the peak worst? Or is it going to
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: get worse from here? I think it's gonna get worse, but.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's like my favorite question to ask is
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: do you prefer ben Ship hero or Tucker calls and
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: tell her?
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: And what is it? What do you mostly get an answer?
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 5: I mostly it's it's like fifty fifty right now. Really
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: it's like, yeah, it's like fifty fifty people. Tucker calls, Uh, yeah,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: i'd say like fifty percent. Yeah, probably, so like he
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: need to switch crowd.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: You go, you need to switch your social group.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: Oh I don't also associate with those people, Okay, get
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: them away from me as fast as possible, Like I
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: don't even want to be associated with you of like
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: that's crazy even even sympathized with anything, Like you know
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: the guy like I remember on your podcast, I figure,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know this stuff, right, Like I look at
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 5: your podcast and Tunger Carlson says he thinks feudalism is
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 5: better than what we have today. It's like, there's no
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: way a grown man just said that I'm live with
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: and he's dad serious, and it's like, yeah, no, I
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: don't if you think that, I'm not gonna associate with you,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: like no.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: Like but tucka now has become both both mindless and
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: evil and uh it's just I don't know anybody wors
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: to Tucker right now. It's uh just terrific. Yeah, and
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: uh you know, although he does have the he does
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: have the uh the the votes at all those aliens
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: who live among.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 6: Us, Yeah, he does.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: They they're out there. Like the thing is I would
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 5: go to like a turning point event just to like,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: you know, like kind of serving around like or like
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 5: I do it with the yeah, with like kind of
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 5: just like I used to do this, and that's like
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 5: kind of what I got.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: But okay, yeah he gets a demon vote, right, thanks,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: thanks Olden Shah's bad. This is from a Lord of
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: the Rings. Okay, okay, he's saying, is the Lot of
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: the Rings the ultimate power corrupt story? My favorite quote
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: from the movie The Ring will not save Gondo, it
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: has only the power to destroy. It's definitely it's definitely
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: a story about the corruption of power, this earthly power.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's supposed to be kind of some
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: kind of religious metaphor, I guess, but but yeah, I
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: mean it's power corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely even the
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: good guys are corrupted by the Ring. It's power can
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: only bring about evil and bad stuff. Is it the
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: ultimate power corrupt story? I don't know. I'd have to
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: think about if there are other stories that are equally powerful.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: But it certainly is a powerful story of the corruption
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: of the power. Though of course, it never really tells
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: you why it's corrupting, right, It just tells you it's
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: corrupting and there's a sense in which it basically is
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: is coming from Tolkien's Christianity. Right, we're all fallen, we're
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: all flawed. Even the best among us, even the best
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: human being cannot resist the uh, you know, having power
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: and turning himself into evil because of the power. And
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: that's because we're fallen. So it's very much a Christian
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: fable in that sense that dictates it. Why can't you
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: have somebody good who recognizes the power, uses the power
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: for good and then destroys the ring? Why couldn't you
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: do that? Why couldn't you have that? Is power corrupting
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: in and of itself? Is power corrupting of all human
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: beings or just a fallen Christians or fallen beings? And
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: I think Tolkien's clearly will all fallen. There's no such
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: thing as pure goodness. But that's just Christianity. That's just Christianity,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: all right, Michael, Michael showed up. He's got a series
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: of questions. Evil doesn't just exist, It seduces, It sucks
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: you in, It convinces you that hate is righteous. That
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: is what possession really is. When your soul, your energy
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: gets hijacked and you start moving in a current that
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: isn't your own. That sounds really ominous. Michael, Yes, that
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: is true. But Bet it requires your assent, It requires
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: your permission. It cannot possess you, It cannot move you,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: It cannot carry you unless you choose that. So evil
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: can try to seduce you, but you have to choose
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: to be seduced. Evil can suck you in only if
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: you choose to be sucked in. You can always resist it.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: You can always walk away, you can always turn away
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: from it. So there's nothing inevitable about evil. And evil
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: is not that powerful because evil can only benefit from
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: your flaws. Evil can only, you know, weasel itself in
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: because you choose to be less good, because you choose
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: not to think, because you choose to compromise. Evil has
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: no power in and of itself. Evil is impotent. So
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: the way you're presenting it, you're giving me evil a
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: lot of credit. But he was impotent. It relies on
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: the good to not be good, to not be as good.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: It relies on holes in the good. Michael, is America
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: in an error of violent populism?
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: I mean I don't think so. Again. I did the
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: show a few a few days ago, and I think
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: people were upset at me because I said, you know,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: there's not that much violence out there. There's political violence,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: more than they should, but it's not that much. There's
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: not like violent populism rampaging around the country. There's no
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: they're not burning down the cities. They're not they're not
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: killing politicians left and right. Yeah, there's more than they
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: should be, but nowhere near, for example, what there was
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: in the sixties, and no where near what what could
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: imagine it could become. So it's not yet the error
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: of violent populism. It's an error of popularism that and
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: some of it likes to think of itself as violent,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: but it's not confident enough to engage in violence because
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: they're afraid that they'll lose. Like violence is a risk
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: because you might not be successful. Michael says. What makes
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: me somewhat hopeful is that one can do one that
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: no one can dupligate. Trump Vans and Holy have no
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: charisma and no cult following. Once Trump goes, I'm not
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: sure anyone as effective can take his place. So I
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: think that's right, except for the ability of someone potentially
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: that we don't know. Remember, Obama was completely unknown until
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: a few months before until he announced the president. You
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: never know somebody on this sidelines who has more of
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: a religious voice, who can unite using the language of religion.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: You saw that in the in the Charlie Cooke.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: Uh, you know, come to Jesus. Uh what do you
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: call it? You know, I don't know what the ceremony
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: or whatever you want to call it, really, I mean
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: the language, the complete Uh, they're completely giving up and
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: hiding the Christianity except for Trump, who's like forgiveness. I
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: don't believe forgiveness. I hate I mean that's pretty funny
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: and and and and very un Christian of him. But uh,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: imagine if if you could find somebody who who could
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: really get an audience like that, really fired up and
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: emotional and uh and ready to go and excited about
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: action in the name of Jesus, in the name of Christianity.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: That's what scares me. So what scares me other people
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: we don't know well on the sidelines, And what scares
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: me is that there's a movement building, this Christian conservative movement.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: There's movement building with millions, and what are they gonna
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: do between now and maybe not next selection. Maybe it's
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: not in twenty twenty eight, maybe it's twenty thirty two
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: or twenty thirty six. What are they gonna do between
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: now and then, How are they gonna grow? What kind
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: of impact are they going to have? It's that that
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: scares me. And you know, I think you're right in
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: a sense that there's it's still true that most Americans
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: don't like Trump. They voted for Trump because he was
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: running at Kamala. They vote for Trump because they didn't
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: think he was serious about tariffs. But the problem is
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: that nobody on the left worthwhile, and the people on
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: the right who might run a worse than Trump, like
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: like a JD. Events worstern Trump in a sense of
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: the ideological, like Michael says Part one, one might think
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: think the question is what's Trump wanting to extract from
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: the manufacture of Thailand on? But I think it's more
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: likely the sort of case where the mob boss just
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: shoots someone for no reason, completely out of the blue,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: as a message to everyone else. I don't need a
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: reason to a mentality that deals in force. That's how power,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: that's what power is. I think you're right. Look, I
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: think it's also just to show they're doing something and
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: to show that they're willing to take on anybody. It's
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: to show his base. Look, you wanted me to do stuff. Here,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: I'm doing stuff, and I'm taking on a big company,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: a company that makes tiland al and I'm taking on
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: a brand name. I'm telling you know, I'm fearless, and
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: it's RFK saying I promise you doal autism. Look, I'm
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: dealing with autism. Uh, And you know I've done it.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: I've made I've made a mark. So it's it's one
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: of the things that mob bosses and and and generally thugs,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: the men of action, not of you know that what's
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: important is to act. Whether action, whether it's true or not,
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: whether it's right or not is uh, whether is not
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: not relevant, whether there's truth there. What's important is the action.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: What's important is that you're perceived as doing something. And yes,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: at the same time, it also sends a message to
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: corporate America beware, beware. You know I can I'll take
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: any one of you out. You know, Tyland didn't do
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: anything to me, and I took them out. Imagine if
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: you do something to me, I can really take you up.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: Michael says, doesn't Cook's wife strike you as a phony
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: social climate, White Christian America is so phony. No, she doesn't.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: I think she's you know, I don't know, but I
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: think she's really religious. I think she's I think all
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: of that was real. I think her crying there was real.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: I think her forgiveness was forced, she forced herself to
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: do it. I don't think she felt it. But because
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: she's Christian, I know it strikes me as she's a smart,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: successful believer. She really believes in this stuff. No, maybe
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: she's president in eight years or whenever. Maybe she's the
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: one to run. Maybe she's the first woman president in
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: American history. Is because Charlie was going to be the first.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: He was going to be president. So maybe she takes
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: this place right. She's a very successful woman, and she's
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: got the look and she's got the emotion. Who knows
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: she could pull it off. Michael, It makes difference whether
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: the ABC acted on the FCC threat. The threat itself
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: is a base and violation of rights, absolutely absolute. And
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: notice how they're backing out of it now because somebody
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: stood up to them. Disney actually stood up to them,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: and they're all backing down like the FCCO. No, I
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: was kidding except Trump. Trump keeps saying no, no, you
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: should be off the air, and I'll make him go
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: off the air. But everybody else is like backing off
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: because they they they went too far. Michael releasing the
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: Epstein files causes autism, claims Trump. I didn't hear that
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: one though, wouldn't surprise me. It's pretty funny. All right,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: let's go to a panel for the last round, and
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: then we've got a bunch of super chat questions from
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: Michael pretty much, and we'll call it a day. All right, Jennifer,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: done for today, Thank you, Thanks Jennifer. Adam.
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  Speaker 3: How much do you think.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 4: California can recover from the left. We have seen the
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: referendum in San Francisco where they kicked out the woke
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 4: school board, and judging from the email and paper mail
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 4: that I get from local politicians, they're all trying to
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: distance themselves from woke and DEI. So can California get
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: good again?
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: It's going to be hard. I mean it can. It
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: could do it very quickly if it had the right policies.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: But it's going to be hard because while the distancing
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: themselves from you know, kind of the the woke left
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: and not distancing themselves necessarily from the regulatory central planning
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: left that they haven't given up on building a railroad
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: from noway to nowhere, high speed rail so you can
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: go really really fast from to shithole places in the
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: middle of California. They're not giving up on the massive
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: government spending. Indeed, they're increasing it. You know, the the
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: proposing if the if the federal governments cutting any kind
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: of I don't know, social spending, California says, oh, we'll
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: increase it to compensate.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: So they're not giving up on that, and and and
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: so the welfare state is still big, the regulatory state
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: is still big. I haven't seen significant deregulation coming out
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: of California. A lot of the regulations even have tech
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: have been pretty bad. So look, you know, you could
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: fix California in a in a year because it has
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: such good people in such great companies and such so
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: much industry. You know, you do you regulate on a
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: massive scale, you lower taxes, you privatize stuff. It could
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: happen very very quickly. I mean, the economy who just boom.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: It has all the necessary components. But are they willing
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: to do that? I don't see that willingness. I just
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: don't see it. Yeah, woke is gone. They'll call it
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: something different. There's still much you know, there's still a
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: lot of cultural leftists, but the economic leftists, so that's
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: everybody pretty much. Nobody's how many free market people are
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: there in California, sadly, very few.
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  Speaker 4: California could use the Malay, but it's not embed enough
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: straits to get one.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's right. And again Malay sadly is
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: in trouble right now, so you'd have to do better
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: even than Malay. He should have dollarized his economy much faster.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe he couldn't, maybe didn't have the legislative authority to
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: do it. But right on, So.
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  Speaker 6: Question around liability. For example, if you have a pool,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 6: I think in most places, you know, you have to
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 6: have a fence around it and all this kind of stuff.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 6: So even though it's on your own land, you you're
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 6: still required to have kind of this protection against some liability. Now,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 6: in a proper society, presumably there would be no such laws.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 6: But would you still have liability in those kind of circumstances,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 6: Like technically nobody should be on your land because they're
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 6: trespassing Yeah, they're falling the pool and drown. Well, too bad.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 6: But what if it is a kid? I think it's
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 6: normally they say, well, kids can wander. They don't know,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 6: right that they shouldn't be there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well the liability there is the parents who let
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: them wander. So yeah, so no, I don't think you'd
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: face liability. I mean, and and and if you could
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: imagine a case where you did, then you just company
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: would kind of require you to do something to reduce
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: their risk. It's one of the roles insurance. Insurance would
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: pay a much bigger role in our lives in a
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: free society. They would be the market regulator. They would
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: to logic then regulate stuff to standard to reduce their own.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 6: Risk, but the underlying liability would still have to be
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 6: there because of some legal requirements.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you'd have to think about a situation where
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: you had that liability, but it's your property. It's hard
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: to imagine a situation where you face liability if you've
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: invited friends over and they fall in the pool. I
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: don't know, live adults, they can see a pool is there.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, you'd have to imagine a pretty bizarre scenario
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: to figure to think about where you would have actual liability.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: Right, talking about bizarre scenarios. In California, there was a
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 4: case where a burglar stood the homeowner whom he was
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 4: burglarizing and won the lawsuit.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: Only Yep. That's the craziness of California that it is
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: hard to It's gonna be hard to get out of it.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 6: Trust me, as a Canadian. That's not only in California.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Yeah, Yeah, Canada is.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 6: We've had plenty of cases like that.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Canada is the future of California.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 6: Canada, California. What the heck might as well join up
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 6: be the fifty Seconds Straight or something.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: Thanks someone right holding, Hey, you're on.
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  Speaker 5: You know something that I think more of. Like one
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: of the things I like to do is read biographies,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 5: and like some of the people that I read about
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 5: are just like, I mean, obviously quite extraordinary people. And
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 5: like one of the things that like I was thinking
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 5: whenever I read one byiography, like one was on Warren Buffett,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 5: and Warren Buffett read like all the books in the
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 5: public Omaha Library by the time he was eleven, you know, Like,
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 5: and I was like I was like thinking, I was like,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: there could be a bunch of people that, you know,
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 5: like he he has, Like his siblings they didn't do that,
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 5: you know, Like so they grew up in the same household,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 5: they didn't do that, And it's hard for me to
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 5: imagine like very many kids doing what he did.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 5: Obviously he has like a you know, like an interest
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 5: in it, but there's something like to me that's like
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 5: there's something to me that feels a little determinist about that,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 5: you know, like that.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I know I could, on my.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 5: Own free, like people could on their own free will
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: do something like that, but it takes a certain person.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 5: You know, I could like motivate you all in the
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 5: world to like be that interested in the subject, but
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 5: some people aren't.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 5: I don't know how to explain what I thought whenever
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 5: I read that, But I was like, I I don't
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 5: think I think that there's just like I don't know,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 5: Like Warren Buffett is a guy that, no matter how
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 5: hard a lot of people try and be like him,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 5: will never be like that person, you know what I mean,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 5: Like even people who like investing or like finance and
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 5: the stuff that he's interested in, they'll never be Warren
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 5: Buffett and that like that's how I feel. Whatever I
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 5: look at something like that, He's just he's just smarter
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 5: and like, you know, like he just has like natural
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 5: abilities that other people don't have.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's natural abilities. I mean, I
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: I worry about the idea of natural abilities as being deterministic.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: He has made choices, he's made himself into a particular
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: type of character that, Yeah, you're not going to emulate
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: a people going to be Are they going to be
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: people who have better returns on investment in Warm Buffett?
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, now people who've done better than warm Buffet,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: you know, but using different techniques and Wan Buffett is
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: unique in many respects. And there won't be another one
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: Buffet because he created a unique being. But there will
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: be other good investments investors. They might be even better
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: investors than want Buffet, but they'll be different, and they'll
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: they maybe use some of the principles that he used,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: but it'll still be different because it'll be a different
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: mind with different values making kind of the choices and assessments.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: It's not an exact science investing in that sense, because
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: it's about predicting the future. And as soon as you're
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: talking about predicting the future, it's not exact science. It's
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: a science, but it's not exact science.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, no, I mean I think there'll be
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 5: other great investors. But of course, like Warren Buffett gets
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 5: much lower returns today because he deals with less money.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 5: Like one of the things I read about in his
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: biography is he for over a decade he got about
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 5: fifty percent returns per year per annim. He was dealing
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 5: with like small amounts of money. That's just like insane.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 5: Like if anybody comes up to you and says they
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 5: could do fifty percent, toself so we'll see you later,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 5: Like but more'n Buffett, you guidless said, And he's like
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 5: I saw an interview he said, I guarantee you that
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 5: today I would make fifty per returns with a million dollars.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 5: And I know he's like not lying, like he actually
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 5: has done it before.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: Well, and people people are doing it constantly. I mean
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: the Venti Capital community do it. Uh. You know, Renaissance
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: Investing did it for many years with a very diverse
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: fight portfolio, just pure investing, pure speculation, and they did
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: it so people can do it. It's just very unusual
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: and it's a very risk skill to be able to
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: do that.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, anyway, genius, Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, besides the point, basically, it's like I think
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 5: there's only a few people on the planet that even if, like,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 5: even if you have millions and millions of people who
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 5: want to do something like that and are willing to
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 5: do like whatever the work is required.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think they would do it.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: You know, I agree.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that it requires like I don't think
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 5: you have to be like an Einstein IQ to do it,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 5: but you do have to be very talented.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: You have to be very talent, and you have to
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: have made certain choices about who you are, what you are,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: and how you function that that are unique and and
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: uh and extraordinary.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I see, I definitely see. You know, I
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 5: definitely believe in for you. I think, you know, I
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 5: think Warren Buffet easily could have chosen to be a
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: criminal scumbag, but he didn't, right, and yep, and he
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 5: and he decided to like, you know, do what was
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 5: necessary to become the guy he did, and same with.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 6: Like all the successful people.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 5: So ye, So I guess like that's where like the
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 5: happy part is. But part of me just reads that
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 5: and thinks, man, this just takes one hell of a
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 5: human being that comes one in a million, one in
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 5: a billion.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: Agree, I agree? But yeah, yeah, and we'll all we
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: all rest on those on those shoulders right of an
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: Aristotle or Galileo or Newton or you know, those those
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: extraordinary olne Man, extraordinary human beings that come just once
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: in a whatever millennium or whatever, and uh and and
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: change the world, changed the world, and fledamental ways.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, they at least they come.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well they come at periods where they're allowed to exist,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: if you will. Who knows how many they'll come and disappear?
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 8: We we almost lost him to ye, all right.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: Let's see, Neil, even Barack Obama sounds good right now
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: over Trump and no kidding, oil w Do you have
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: any thoughts on the UK's proposal to introduce ID cards. Yeah,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm against all ID cards. I'm against uh
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: digital ID It's it's a way for the government to
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: track you. It's it's unnecessary. We've got driver's licenses, we've
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: got passports, we've got I don't know, bank cards, you've
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: got a million digital ways in which you can be identified,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: and you could get a token that identifies you. There's
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: so many ways to get your identity verified. The last
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: thing we need is a is a and uh nationalized
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: another national standardized d that everybody's required to walk around with.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: It's we get we become more and more and more
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: like a police state. So I'm against that, Michael. If
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: if this is just a giant stockworker bubble and it
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: collapses into a major exception, will Trump while Trump is
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: still in office, will the imposed martial law on engage
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: in widespread deregulation? Oh? Who knows what he will do?
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. You know, he could do whiteshread deregulation. Now.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: I don't actually know what Trump would do. If we
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: had a major financial crisis. He would panic. We saw
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: that with COVID. His response is to panic and to
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: say everything is fine, and to blame, to blame the
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: stock market for the stock market collapsing, to blame, to
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: blame people who knows, who knows. I think he'll basically
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: delegate the best and and let best and do whatever
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: he wants, which is what he did with Fauci.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: He delegates and they want to what comes out with
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: some crazy statement about the state of the world. But
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're looking a massive deregulation as a
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: way to get out of it. There's no there's nothing
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: in his in his way of thinking about the world,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: that would suggest that he would respond in that way.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: Michael thoughts on my list feature to you and actually
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: haven't heard it yet, so I don't know. I'll listen
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  Speaker 1: to it. Michael, could I do a documentary on Hitler's philosophers,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: showing a lay audience how cont Hegel and the others
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: led to Nazism and how their influence still exists today
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: and guides people. Thinking, Sure, you could. You could turn
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: almost parallels into a documentary I think a very powerful one.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: The problem is who's going to watch it? You know,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent of documentaries are watched by
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: almost nobody unless you have an amazing marketing network, unless
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: you have a way to get the documentary into the
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: hands of the right people, into nobody watches it. You know,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: the book is there, how many people read it? And
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: ye have people watch more stuff today, but people don't
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: watch serious documentaries. And you know, again, I've been involved
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: in making documentaries, and you make them and they're really good,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: and then nothing happens. Nobody ever sees them. You wasted
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: all that money and all that effort and all that
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: stuff and nothing happens. You have huge hopes for it.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, making a documentary ominous Powers is
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: a great idea. Michael, a German historian, thinks there are
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: more Nazis in America than Germany today. Well, America is
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: much bigger. It's quite possible. It's quite possible. But I
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: don't know how you define a Nazi. Who's a Nazi? Yeah,
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: I'm skeptical about those kind of measures. Michael. Does the
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: left not realize why they lose? They just so in
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: their own pretend world that they have no idea how
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: to read actual human beings. No, but it's not about
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: winning and losing. I mean, this is the thing. It's
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: not like the left says, so, what ideology should we
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: believe in so we can win? They believe in what
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: they believe, and much of the left believes in woke
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: multicultural DEI. They believe in that stuff. They think that
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: stuff is real. They think that's justice, they think that's goodness.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: They are righteous for believing it. It's not that they're
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: bad at strategy, is that they're bad at ideas. They
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: have rotten ideas, and the ideas are fundamentally need disintegrated,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: integrating ideas, and that makes it very difficult to win. Michael.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: If Israel were a first World Catholic country instead of
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: a first World Jewish country defending itself, would the world
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: have the same vitriolic reaction to it. No, I don't
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: think so. Would I don't think so, although it would
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: still have some negative reaction because those Catholics would still
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: be first world and they'd be beating up on third World.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: So whenever the first war beats up on the third World,
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: there is a reaction. It just wouldn't be quite as bad,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: but it would be James. Protectionism is pure altruism and action,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: demanding the productive sacrifice, pay more for less, and make
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: do with less. Yes, protectionism is all about sacrificing for
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: some for the sake of others. It's a redistribution. It's
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: a massive redistribution, and it can only be justified through altruism.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: Not you avi j algorithm saying how you feel will
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: never ruin a real connection. Yeah, as long as it's
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: a real connection, a healthy connection. As long as you're
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: real and you're healthy, then yes, not your a j algorithm.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: Was the majority Republican Party always ignorant, hateful and racist
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: or was it a new development? I think it's worse.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a majority. I don't think
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: it's a majority even today, but it's it's certainly worse today.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: It goes in phases, it goes in phase. It used
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: to be that most of the racists were in the
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: Democratic Party. You know, Jim Crow was in Democratic states.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: The South was Democratic in those days. It is a
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: world falling. I'm not sure what you mean by falling.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: It's certainly it's certainly struggling. It's certainly struggling culturally, ideologically,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: and economically. It's struggling. Harpercampbell, October seventh. Didn't happen because
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: Palestinians would deny a state. It happened because they were
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: given one. Absolutely, they were given the state of Gaza.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: In two thousand and five. Nate Thoughts on Hindu a
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: job five year old being killed in Israel Gaza. I
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: see lots of pro Gaza argue. Her and the paramedics
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: were purposefully killed by the idea of I don't know.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: I haven't looked into it, so I don't know. Look,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: it's war. People die, I don't know. I don't know
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: what you expect. The children are going to die in war. Absolutely,
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: were they purposefully killed? Was like these Raeli military looking
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: to kill children and paramedics? I'm you know, it's very
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: very very doubtful that that is the case. And how
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: anybody would know that, how they would figure that out,
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: how they could tell what the Israeli soldier was thinking
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: when they shot. But look how well things happened in war.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: Is it possible that some Israeli soldier freaked out and
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: shot them or some israelly whatever, I guess, But what
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: purpose would it? Say? Who would benefit from that? Nobody?
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: It would it? Would it hasten the end of the war.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: It's certainly not a strategic, not a strategic thing for
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: them to do. But it's a war, bad stuff happens.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: You want to end the war. Surrender, if if the
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: if the uh if Hamas surrender's hands over the hostages,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: the wars ended and children stopped dying. So all these
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: stories could there be a case. Sure, So what are
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: you gonna do about it? Hop a Campbell. Do you
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: find it hard to cut people off when you've been
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: friends with them for many years but objectively discover they're
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: bad people, person and bad for your life? Do you
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: have a mal obligation to tell them why you're cutting
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: them off? Or go cold turkey? What if you run
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: into them? How do you handle the awkwardness?
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 6: No?
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: I have never had a problem of cutting people off.
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  Speaker 1: Once they're a liability, then the liability and they need
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  Speaker 1: to be cut off and it's done. Do you have
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  Speaker 1: them all so I don't feel an obligation. Do you
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  Speaker 1: have an obligation to tell them why? It depends. It
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  Speaker 1: depends on why you're cutting them off. It depends on
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  Speaker 1: the context, what kind of relationship you have. You might
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  Speaker 1: the closer you were, the closer you are with them,
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  Speaker 1: the more that obligation exists. On the other hand, it
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  Speaker 1: might be that what's happened, they should know why you're
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  Speaker 1: cutting them off. It's obvious they do something really bad
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  Speaker 1: and they should know about it. They know it, so
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  Speaker 1: you don't need to help them with their evasion. So
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  Speaker 1: it really depends a lot on the context, and how
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  Speaker 1: do you get over the over the awkwardest you just do.
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  Speaker 1: You just move on, and sometimes you want to tell
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  Speaker 1: people this is why, partially because maybe they can redeem themselves.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it very very very much depends
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  Speaker 1: on the context all of those answers to all of
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  Speaker 1: those questions. But I have not had a problem in
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  Speaker 1: my life doing that. All right, Liam's just coming with
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  Speaker 1: fifty dollars question, Thank you. Liam. As a bad thing.
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  Speaker 1: As bad as things are in Canada, there is hope
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  Speaker 1: with Polivar and many of the conservatives, the US looks
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  Speaker 1: worse to me, especially down the road. The Isaac Christian
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  Speaker 1: nationalism is no not longer a fringe of society. They
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  Speaker 1: can be dismissed. There is a complete abandonment of reason
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  Speaker 1: and science. Looks like a regression back to medieval times. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean the real I mean, Paulivon, so on.
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  Speaker 3: But they lost.
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  Speaker 1: It looked like they were going to win and they
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  Speaker 1: lost big time. So I don't know, but it's quite
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  Speaker 1: possible the Canada's future is more positive. But I also
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: would you know, it's easy to emphasize the negative. It's
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: easy to say, look at the Christian nationalists. Look they
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but most people are not Christian nationalists. Most
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: Republicans are not Christian nationalists. I know a lot of
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: Republicans who are Jews in the still Republicans. The Republican
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  Speaker 1: Party is not a Christian nationalist party. Yet they're growing
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  Speaker 1: and it's scary. But I don't know if that's the
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  Speaker 1: future of the country. It could it could be, it
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  Speaker 1: could be something that really uh at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day, these kids that are discovering Christianity could grow
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  Speaker 1: out of it very quickly and easily. It really is
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  Speaker 1: hard to tell. I don't think we're heading towards medieval times,
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  Speaker 1: although sometimes feels that way. It's really going to be
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  Speaker 1: a question of can somebody rally the non Christian, non woke,
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  Speaker 1: the non Christian nationalists, non woke people. Is there a
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  Speaker 1: political force that can rally those people. Is there a
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: cultural force that can rally those people. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: America is destined to become a Christian nationalist country, even
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  Speaker 1: even now with with them on the rise. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you to panel. Thank you Jennifer, Adam Umlin,
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  Speaker 1: Holden and Jacob's here earlier. Thank you all the super chatters.
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  Speaker 1: Really appreciate the support. I probably have a show tomorrow
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: and then we'll be we'll have a show every day
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: this week if all goes well, so we'll be back
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  Speaker 1: on kind of a semi regular, regular schedule. Have a
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: great rest of your weekend, everybody, Bye bye bye.
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  Speaker 3: Have a good week.