Latest / Wired To Hunt Podcast / Ep. 1068: Foundations - You Don't Know What You've Got, Until. . .
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired2Hunt Foundations Podcast, your guide to the
- 0:05Speaker 1: fundamentals of better deer hunting. Presented by First Light, creating proven,
- 0:10Speaker 1: versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle, or blind. First Light,
- 0:15Speaker 1: go farther, stay longer. And now, your host, Tony Peterson.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Wired2Hunt Foundations Podcast, which is
- 0:23Speaker 2: brought to you by First Light. I'm your host, Tony Peterson,
- 0:25Speaker 2: and today is all about loss in life and in
- 0:28Speaker 2: the deer woods. I know that last week I said
- 0:35Speaker 2: I was going to write about early season buck sign
- 0:37Speaker 2: this week and how you could use that to kill
- 0:40Speaker 2: a big one.
- 0:40Speaker 3: I'm going to push that back. Something came up.
- 0:43Speaker 2: And, you know, that's just how it goes in life.
- 0:46Speaker 2: And I kind of want to point you in a
- 0:46Speaker 2: different direction this week. Next week I'll cover that, deer
- 0:50Speaker 2: scouting and the sign. But today I want to talk
- 0:53Speaker 2: about loss and about life. Well, in a way about deer,
- 0:56Speaker 2: I guess. I know that makes almost no sense, but
- 0:59Speaker 2: it will soon enough. Earlier this morning, I sat down
- 1:11Speaker 2: to join a Wired to Hunt episode with Mark and
- 1:13Speaker 2: Dan Johnson from the Nine Finger Chronicles podcast. What I
- 1:17Speaker 2: got was a desktop that wouldn't boot up and just
- 1:20Speaker 2: gave me the spinning wheel of computer death. Half an
- 1:23Speaker 2: hour later, I threw my hat across my office, texted
- 1:25Speaker 2: Mark that I was out for the recording, and contemplated
- 1:28Speaker 2: chucking my Mac into the pond in the backyard. As
- 1:31Speaker 2: much as I wanted to take this computer for a swim,
- 1:34Speaker 2: I didn't. I sat there thinking about my life. and
- 1:36Speaker 2: listening to my old dog limp her way across the
- 1:39Speaker 2: floor to look at me with eyes that just don't
- 1:41Speaker 2: see very well anymore. The lumps on her 13-year-old body
- 1:44Speaker 2: are impossible to ignore these days, and while I know
- 1:47Speaker 2: what's in store for me with her, it doesn't make
- 1:50Speaker 2: it any easier. It's one of those mornings where I'm
- 1:52Speaker 2: looking for a reason to be pissed off, after some
- 1:55Speaker 2: reasons found me when I wasn't looking for them. Once
- 1:58Speaker 2: that balance shifts in your brain, though, it's pretty easy
- 2:01Speaker 2: to find more reasons to rage against the world at large.
- 2:05Speaker 2: I can hop on Instagram or Reddit and watch videos
- 2:07Speaker 2: from the recent flash flood in Nepal, where a glacier
- 2:11Speaker 2: calved a huge chunk of ice from an extremely high elevation.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Now that 2,000 foot wide piece of ice plunged 7,000
- 2:19Speaker 2: feet down, allowing it to heat up and grab a
- 2:22Speaker 2: whole bunch of earth along the way, meaning that a
- 2:24Speaker 2: landslide happened concurrently with that glacier falling down. This massive
- 2:29Speaker 2: amount of moving earth hit a river, which fed into
- 2:32Speaker 2: another river, which runs along the China-Nepal border.
- 2:36Speaker 3: This caused a flood.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Wave of pulverized ice and rock and, of course, water
- 2:41Speaker 2: that covered the first 14 miles at speeds of about
- 2:46Speaker 2: 120 miles per hour. Think about that for a second,
- 2:49Speaker 2: because that huge mass of earth and water moved nearly
- 2:52Speaker 2: 14 miles in less than seven minutes. If you've seen
- 2:57Speaker 2: the videos, and I'm sure most of you have at
- 2:59Speaker 2: this point, It looks like end-of-days stuff, and it's pretty
- 3:02Speaker 2: surreal to watch people to try to outrun that water,
- 3:06Speaker 2: only to be engulfed by it. It's a terrifying reminder
- 3:09Speaker 2: that Mother Nature doesn't much care for our well-being. My
- 3:12Speaker 2: buddy and I talked about this and quite a bit
- 3:14Speaker 2: of other stuff as we put up some blinds for
- 3:16Speaker 2: our kids to hunt, picked up a few acorns off
- 3:19Speaker 2: the ground to peer up to the trees and gauge
- 3:21Speaker 2: how long they'll be dropping and if that would impact
- 3:23Speaker 2: our plans, and, well, we just got some work done recently.
- 3:27Speaker 2: In the back of his mind, and in my mind,
- 3:30Speaker 2: was a good friend of ours who we both used
- 3:32Speaker 2: to live with, who we've hunted and fished with, and
- 3:35Speaker 2: who has gone through a lot. Earlier this year, we
- 3:38Speaker 2: attended his father's funeral. And as it goes with fathers
- 3:41Speaker 2: and sons, their relationship was complex. It was built on
- 3:45Speaker 2: a foundation of a lot of things, but alcohol was
- 3:48Speaker 2: a huge part of it. I think that every person
- 3:51Speaker 2: at that service was surprised that his father made it
- 3:53Speaker 2: as long as he did.
- 3:54Speaker 3: I know I was. But that wasn't why this friend
- 3:57Speaker 3: was on our minds, though.
- 3:59Speaker 2: His wife, who fought cancer twice before she was 40,
- 4:03Speaker 2: caught an infection through one of her surgical scars at
- 4:06Speaker 2: the beginning of July, bacterial meningitis, which is no joke.
- 4:10Speaker 2: It took her out and led to a series of
- 4:12Speaker 2: cascading failures that kept her in the hospital for nearly
- 4:15Speaker 2: two months. Now, our buddy managed that situation and their
- 4:19Speaker 2: two children, one who is a junior in college and
- 4:22Speaker 2: the other one who is just starting her first year
- 4:24Speaker 2: as a freshman. Through those two months, she would come to,
- 4:27Speaker 2: she'd be lucid, she'd communicate, and then she'd crash. It
- 4:31Speaker 2: was a series of hope and then despair that to
- 4:34Speaker 2: us on the outside felt like, you know, one big
- 4:36Speaker 2: step forward and two steps back. And in a situation
- 4:39Speaker 2: like that, you can only go in reverse for so long.
- 4:42Speaker 2: So when he texted us that she had passed peacefully,
- 4:45Speaker 2: it just kind of broke my heart, as you can imagine.
- 4:49Speaker 2: We look for equality in this world, and for some
- 4:51Speaker 2: reason we expect it. But it isn't owed to us
- 4:54Speaker 2: or promised to us or even possible for it to
- 4:56Speaker 2: be delivered. It doesn't work that way. It never will.
- 5:00Speaker 2: We just have the unfortunate processing power in our brains
- 5:03Speaker 2: to expect it. Although I guess my dogs kind of
- 5:05Speaker 2: do too, so maybe all animals hope for the best.
- 5:08Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 5:09Speaker 2: Maybe it's a consequence of consciousness to want things to
- 5:12Speaker 2: work out and to rage against the reality that it
- 5:14Speaker 2: often just doesn't. And there's no accounting for that. I'm
- 5:17Speaker 2: reminded of two quotes from my favorite author, Cormac McCarthy here.
- 5:22Speaker 2: The first is from No Country for Old Men, and
- 5:24Speaker 2: it goes like this. You never know what worse luck
- 5:27Speaker 2: your bad luck has saved you from. A clever way
- 5:30Speaker 2: to explain why we should be optimists, or at least
- 5:33Speaker 2: not dwell on what we perceive as bad luck, because
- 5:36Speaker 2: as parents are prone to saying to children, could be worse.
- 5:40Speaker 2: The second quote, which has a little less hope in
- 5:43Speaker 2: it and comes from his novel The Road, goes like this.
- 5:47Speaker 3: Nobody wants to be here, and nobody wants to leave.
- 5:51Speaker 2: If there is a better, more concise way to address
- 5:53Speaker 2: the human condition than that, I have yet to hear it.
- 5:56Speaker 2: It's nearly perfect in its simplicity, which was one of
- 5:59Speaker 2: the many hallmarks of his writing. Another hallmark of his
- 6:03Speaker 2: writing is that his stories mostly don't work out for
- 6:06Speaker 2: the protagonists. They are good versus evil, dark versus light,
- 6:09Speaker 2: and well, they don't work out like hallmark movies do.
- 6:14Speaker 2: When you think about it, most of life doesn't work
- 6:17Speaker 2: out that well with big wins. That's why we celebrate them.
- 6:21Speaker 2: That's why when I meet a bunch of deer hunters somewhere,
- 6:24Speaker 2: they tell me about the biggest deer they killed first
- 6:27Speaker 2: and not about the amount of times a big one
- 6:29Speaker 2: came in and then got away or the amount of
- 6:31Speaker 2: times no deer came in, let alone a couple of booners.
- 6:35Speaker 2: That's also why when I talk to a lot of hunters,
- 6:38Speaker 2: especially hunters with 10 or 20 deer seasons under their belt,
- 6:42Speaker 2: their optimism is always heavily tempered by reality. They have
- 6:47Speaker 2: learned to mostly expect failure because in simple terms, That's
- 6:51Speaker 2: what we mostly get out of deer hunting. On any
- 6:54Speaker 2: given sit, we don't fill a tag. And in any
- 6:56Speaker 2: given season, most of us won't kill a, you know,
- 7:00Speaker 2: no doubt mature buck. The people who learn to be
- 7:02Speaker 2: good at deer hunting aren't just the ones who figure
- 7:04Speaker 2: out how to kill deer more often than most weekend warriors,
- 7:07Speaker 2: but they are the ones who understand that most of
- 7:10Speaker 2: those no-kill sits and those no-kill seasons are just part
- 7:13Speaker 2: of a lifelong process that is stingy with rewards, but
- 7:18Speaker 2: not completely bent on never delivering the good stuff. They
- 7:21Speaker 2: learn that you have to wade through a lot of
- 7:23Speaker 2: shit to get them. And that makes those sits where
- 7:26Speaker 2: the big ones don't show up and those seasons where
- 7:28Speaker 2: it just won't quite come together something different, something more tolerable,
- 7:33Speaker 2: something better. That's a hard lesson to learn in deer hunting.
- 7:36Speaker 2: And it's a hard lesson to learn in life. Partially
- 7:39Speaker 2: because there's so much extra unnecessary noise all the time.
- 7:44Speaker 2: We are all tired of it. The performance review at work,
- 7:47Speaker 2: wherever you are, we have to justify our paychecks to
- 7:49Speaker 2: the people who have been watching us to make sure
- 7:51Speaker 2: that we do our jobs to begin with. No, the
- 7:54Speaker 2: nonstop slide into year-round sports for eight-year-olds because for some
- 7:57Speaker 2: reason we feel that literal children need the equivalent of
- 8:01Speaker 2: a part-time job and the pressure to perform in front
- 8:03Speaker 2: of a bunch of adults shouting instructions at them because
- 8:07Speaker 2: we decided that was more important than just going out
- 8:09Speaker 2: to net some frogs or catch some fish after a
- 8:11Speaker 2: full day of school. The guy who comments on a
- 8:15Speaker 2: picture of a 150-inch buck by saying he's a solid deer,
- 8:18Speaker 2: but could definitely use one more year. Like, maybe you
- 8:21Speaker 2: could use some challenging hunting if you think that's the case.
- 8:25Speaker 3: Go out there and pass up a.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Bunch of giant bucks on public land and get back
- 8:28Speaker 2: to us, Chief. Everyone is running their own deer race,
- 8:42Speaker 2: and the course is vastly different for each of us.
- 8:46Speaker 2: It's those things and a million others that chip away
- 8:48Speaker 2: at us and make enjoying what we should love just
- 8:51Speaker 2: a little more difficult. But we can't silence the trophy-hunting
- 8:55Speaker 2: keyboard warriors any more than we can quit our jobs
- 8:57Speaker 2: so we don't have to sit through another performance review, which,
- 9:00Speaker 2: if you think about it, is perfectly named. Our performance
- 9:05Speaker 2: is to convince the higher-ups we deserve more money. while
- 9:07Speaker 2: their performance is designed to convince us that we are
- 9:10Speaker 2: very lucky to get paid what we do. It's all theater,
- 9:14Speaker 2: but also our real lives. I think we need to
- 9:17Speaker 2: guard our hobbies and our passions from that as much
- 9:19Speaker 2: as possible. I have a friend who's relatively new to
- 9:22Speaker 2: deer hunting game, at least when compared to guys like me,
- 9:25Speaker 2: but she's working her ass off to find public land
- 9:28Speaker 2: bucks in Wisconsin. And I'm not joking there. When I
- 9:31Speaker 2: say she's putting in more work than most deer hunters
- 9:32Speaker 2: I know.
- 9:33Speaker 3: I mean it.
- 9:35Speaker 2: She's terrified she won't find a buck that's at least
- 9:37Speaker 2: two and a half years old to shoot because she
- 9:38Speaker 2: wants to level up on deer.
- 9:41Speaker 3: And she's doing everything right.
- 9:42Speaker 2: I mean that. Yet the voice in her head comes
- 9:44Speaker 2: from outside of herself. And it consists of a collection
- 9:47Speaker 2: of general deer hunting sentiment on what constitutes a big
- 9:50Speaker 2: buck and what is worth shooting. And I hate to
- 9:53Speaker 2: see that because if she could dial down that volume
- 9:56Speaker 2: and just tune out those nagging thoughts of having to
- 9:59Speaker 2: shoot something someone else deems respectable, she'd be having so
- 10:03Speaker 2: much more fun. But that's really easy advice to give,
- 10:06Speaker 2: but difficult advice to follow, like a lot of advice.
- 10:10Speaker 2: Maybe this is just because of my mood this week,
- 10:13Speaker 2: but I can't help but think how quickly we'd change
- 10:16Speaker 2: our thinking if deer hunting was taken away from all
- 10:19Speaker 2: of us. If we lost this thing that we love
- 10:21Speaker 2: for whatever reason, I wonder what we would miss most
- 10:24Speaker 2: about it. I doubt it would be picking up a
- 10:27Speaker 2: big one from the taxidermist as much as it would
- 10:29Speaker 2: be the anticipation of a new season coming on. You know,
- 10:32Speaker 2: maybe we would miss the trail camera notifications or that
- 10:35Speaker 2: feeling of settling into a stand or blind well before
- 10:38Speaker 2: first light and waiting on the day to unfold. The
- 10:41Speaker 2: mystery of who's going to come walking down the trail.
- 10:44Speaker 2: The glimpse of something big and brown and antlered walking
- 10:46Speaker 2: through the woods in your general direction. Maybe the feeling
- 10:50Speaker 2: of watching your kids try to keep their shit together
- 10:52Speaker 2: when a 23-inch forky shows up at last light. Would
- 10:56Speaker 2: we miss the feeling of posting a grip and grin
- 10:58Speaker 2: on Instagram more than we'd miss leaving work and driving
- 11:01Speaker 2: right out to the woods to sit for an evening
- 11:03Speaker 2: in mid-October when the leaves are changing and the sound
- 11:06Speaker 2: of acorns hitting the ground keeps us on red alert
- 11:09Speaker 2: until we hear that very, very welcome sound of hooves
- 11:12Speaker 2: shuffling through the leaf litter? It's not an easy thought
- 11:16Speaker 2: exercise to engage in. Because it feels like deer hunting
- 11:19Speaker 2: isn't going anywhere.
- 11:20Speaker 3: It is, though.
- 11:21Speaker 2: And whether we get another 25 or 50 years out
- 11:23Speaker 2: of it is anyone's guess. Maybe every season is a gift,
- 11:27Speaker 2: and we should treat it as such. Maybe we should
- 11:30Speaker 2: also try to recognize that in others as well. It
- 11:33Speaker 2: wasn't that long ago that I didn't have much hope
- 11:36Speaker 2: of that happening. But after shaking hands with several hundred
- 11:39Speaker 2: people at our store opening here in the cities a
- 11:41Speaker 2: few weeks ago, I'm actually more hopeful than I've been
- 11:44Speaker 2: in a long time. the people I met, most of
- 11:47Speaker 2: them anyway, seemed to all have their priorities largely in
- 11:50Speaker 2: a spot I consider to be a good one. You know, sure,
- 11:53Speaker 2: there was plenty of big buck talk, but there was
- 11:55Speaker 2: also plenty of small buck talk and doe talk and
- 11:58Speaker 2: public land talk and talk about how the next generation
- 12:00Speaker 2: of deer hunters is coming up. We are dang lucky
- 12:03Speaker 2: to give them the opportunity to sit in those woods
- 12:05Speaker 2: with those animals we love and allow that small part
- 12:08Speaker 2: of life to give them what so much of life
- 12:11Speaker 2: seems hell-bent on taking away from them. Maybe I'm being
- 12:14Speaker 2: overdramatic here. I honestly don't know. I know that it's
- 12:17Speaker 2: very easy for me to focus on what has been
- 12:20Speaker 2: lost in hunting and what could be lost any day now.
- 12:24Speaker 2: It doesn't make me feel good to look at the
- 12:25Speaker 2: new developments around me on farms I hunted not that
- 12:28Speaker 2: long ago and think about the greed involved or the
- 12:31Speaker 2: callousness of it all because the nature I loved is
- 12:35Speaker 2: no longer there. But I live in a house with
- 12:37Speaker 2: a yard and I know without question deer used to
- 12:40Speaker 2: live here too. I've never had a developer offer me
- 12:43Speaker 2: life-changing money for my land, either. It's easy for me
- 12:46Speaker 2: to say I'd turn it down, but that's because the
- 12:48Speaker 2: offer isn't on the table. My natural default setting is
- 12:52Speaker 2: to find the negative outcome first, and then go through
- 12:55Speaker 2: with whatever it is I'm sure will fail. And sometimes
- 12:59Speaker 2: just be pleasantly surprised it didn't. That's a dumb way
- 13:02Speaker 2: to live, if I'm being honest.
- 13:04Speaker 3: And I am.
- 13:04Speaker 2: I'm going to try to be better for myself and
- 13:07Speaker 2: my daughters. We have a couple of big weekends coming
- 13:10Speaker 2: up with deer openers in Wisconsin and Minnesota, although I
- 13:13Speaker 2: just found out that Wisconsin's out because I'll be at
- 13:16Speaker 2: a funeral. It's how life goes. Now, I'm pretty sure
- 13:19Speaker 2: either way in those first couple weeks, we'll piece together
- 13:22Speaker 2: a blood trailer too. That should be enough to keep
- 13:25Speaker 2: the bad thoughts at bay because that's pretty incredible, especially
- 13:28Speaker 2: considering it took me four full seasons of bow hunting
- 13:31Speaker 2: to kill a buttonbuck, and it'll probably take the girls
- 13:33Speaker 2: about four full hours of hunting to kill something bigger
- 13:36Speaker 2: than that this year. And maybe that easy success is
- 13:39Speaker 2: the wrong measure. But looking at volleyball schedules and basketball
- 13:42Speaker 2: schedules and homecoming weekend and my work schedule means that
- 13:46Speaker 2: the days when we do get out there don't deserve
- 13:48Speaker 2: to be bogged down by focusing on the what-ifs of life.
- 13:52Speaker 2: I know that I won't get a mulligan on those
- 13:54Speaker 2: moments with my daughters any more than I'll get to
- 13:56Speaker 2: replay a season in the woods for myself.
- 13:59Speaker 3: They're here, and then they're gone.
- 14:02Speaker 2: Like a woman I've known for 25 years who gave
- 14:04Speaker 2: one of my best friends a son and a daughter,
- 14:06Speaker 2: and a path toward a life that wouldn't consist of
- 14:09Speaker 2: throwing back long necks at the local watering hole every night.
- 14:12Speaker 2: In fact, other than his father's funeral, the last time
- 14:16Speaker 2: I saw them together and got to spend real time
- 14:18Speaker 2: with them was last year's bow opener in Minnesota, when
- 14:22Speaker 2: I brought one of my daughters down and we all
- 14:23Speaker 2: got to hang out. We laughed until we cried then,
- 14:26Speaker 2: and it had nothing to do with deer.
- 14:29Speaker 3: It was just the reason to be there.
- 14:31Speaker 2: And because we were there, it allowed us to get
- 14:33Speaker 2: together and have a great night like we used to
- 14:35Speaker 2: when we were in college in those pre-kid days when
- 14:39Speaker 2: whatever we could see through the windshield was so much
- 14:41Speaker 2: bigger than anything in the rearview mirror. And that's not
- 14:44Speaker 2: the case anymore after a couple of decades. But there's
- 14:46Speaker 2: still plenty to look forward to. And it doesn't do
- 14:49Speaker 2: any of us any good to dwell on the things
- 14:50Speaker 2: that we can't change, as much fun as it is
- 14:53Speaker 2: to do just that. So I guess I'll wrap up
- 14:56Speaker 2: this meandering rant here that took the space of some
- 14:59Speaker 2: good old deer hunting advice I was fully prepared to
- 15:02Speaker 2: dish out by saying that maybe you've started hunting this year.
- 15:05Speaker 2: Maybe you're shooting every night and just dying of anticipation
- 15:08Speaker 2: on the upcoming deer opener. Maybe it's your first season
- 15:11Speaker 2: on a new property or your last season on a
- 15:13Speaker 2: property you hate to lose. Maybe your kids are going
- 15:16Speaker 2: to hunt for the first time. Or maybe they're going
- 15:18Speaker 2: to just sit next to you in a blind and
- 15:20Speaker 2: help you look for deer and eat some candy. Whatever
- 15:23Speaker 2: it is that is waiting for you this fall in
- 15:24Speaker 2: the woods, and when you're not in the woods, I
- 15:26Speaker 2: hope it's just good.
- 15:27Speaker 3: I hope it gives you what you need.
- 15:29Speaker 2: And if it doesn't, I hope you figure out why
- 15:32Speaker 2: and you have the opportunity to find it somewhere else
- 15:34Speaker 2: down the road. We don't know how many seasons any
- 15:37Speaker 2: of us have left. And that might seem like a
- 15:40Speaker 2: totally abstract concept until it's suddenly not. And when it's not,
- 15:44Speaker 2: I bet we will give a hell of a lot
- 15:46Speaker 2: to go back, you know, one more time. And meet
- 15:49Speaker 2: up with some friends the night before the deer opener
- 15:51Speaker 2: or to climb up into a stand while our fathers
- 15:54Speaker 2: stand on the ground and watch to make sure we
- 15:56Speaker 2: make it up there okay. I think we should all
- 15:58Speaker 2: try to remember that as long as we can. And
- 16:01Speaker 2: I know that I'm going to try starting right now.
- 16:05Speaker 2: That's it for this week, folks. I'm Tony Peterson. This
- 16:07Speaker 2: has been the Wired Hunt Foundations podcast. As always, I
- 16:10Speaker 2: want to thank you so much for all your support.
- 16:12Speaker 2: I know you see us here at Meteor going in
- 16:14Speaker 2: a million different directions. And just the fact that you
- 16:17Speaker 2: guys show up and you read the articles, you watch
- 16:19Speaker 2: the films, you listen to these podcasts, it means the
- 16:22Speaker 2: world to us. You know, you show up at our
- 16:24Speaker 2: store openings. It's truly incredible. So I want to thank
- 16:27Speaker 2: you for that. If you need some more content, you
- 16:30Speaker 2: know where to go.
- 16:31Speaker 3: TheMeatEater.com. We drop tons of new content all the time.
- 16:35Speaker 2: Go check it out there. Good luck this season. Wear
- 16:38Speaker 2: your safety harnesses and have some fun.