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Hey, Welcome to another episode of the four show The Voice of Urban Geek
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the podcast. Here we discussed geek and pop culture from the perspective of people
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love Hello and as always in the Captains Churchill Boy, DJ Ben, I
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mean A K. A. Howard University's own been, I mean DJ by
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Night, brist blairmont Hellou, Jordans, cow El Bundy, Lego, my
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station Ship Tonight, good one, Yeah, and standing on biscuits, I
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already liked that one. Oh god, oh I missed that one. Good
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one. Good. There you go, standing on biscuits and as always,
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Ocky and the Team of the North. There we go, there we go
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back again. I think we took a week off. You know, it's
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been uh, you know, there's been a lot going on in January prepping
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for some big things with the for All Nerds fams. So you know,
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we got some things moving behind the scenes right now, a lot of things
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going on, so we had to, you know, take a little break.
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But we back here to distress everything has been going on in geek and
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pop culture. I hope y'all been doing well out there. Thank you as
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for all nerds Twitch dot tv slash DJ Ben, I mean for me as
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well. And you know what's been going on with you? How you doing
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out there talking? How is your year treating? You know? It's twenty
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twenty four, Yeah, the year truth. I'll say that, the year
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of truth. Okay, I've been bringing the truth to a lot of people.
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I like that. I've been telling the truth to a lot of people.
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But yeah, I've been doing it, but I've had to really do
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it this year. I want to tell some more truths. But you know,
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I'm wanting to start a fight if I do that, So I'm I
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mean, we might start a few fights, do it. I'm gonna starting
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a fight earlier today. You know what, I am a proponent of violence.
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Violence is the answer many times, I'm not the peacemaker here. If
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y'all looking at me, like which one between me and Ben? Who's going
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to be more peaceful? Neither? Because I'm with the shits, I'm with
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throwing hands, I'm with it all when necessary. It is what it is.
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But on something more positive, I've had a good twenty twenty fourth,
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that's far. My birthday was January fourteenth. So I the Motherland for the
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second time in my life, actually to Tanzania this time, and was able
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to experience and be privileged to go on safari and actually see real life fucking
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animals up close, not too close. But unfortunately didn't get to see any
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lions, nor did I get to see any elephants up front. I've never
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seen African elephant. That's another thing, like, I've got to make that
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distinction because the African elephants are much bigger than a lot of elephants people be
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seeing in random places, random locales, particularly whether it's like a zoo or
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if you go over to the Philippines or any really other places in Asia,
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excuse me, where they have different types of elephants, they are not like
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African elephants. So just say that. So I was a little upset to
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see that, did not see that, but I did see damn near everything
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else, and lots and lots and lots of Impala and Pala specifically, they
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were like the fucking roaches of the planes, like they were everywhere, mass
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overpopulation. Even the people there were like, yo, y'all need to do
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something about this shit. So we'll see and when the time of year we
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went is considered the springtime. So I was lucky to see like a lot
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of the babies. There were tons of baby animals everywhere. It was so
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cute. So and my favorite land animals, giraffe. Saw them a billion
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times on safari, and giraffes are so fucking beautiful, so gorgeous, and
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like I'm always like an awe and I see it like wow, and then
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I also like, I also think about that Jimmie Fox comedy skit where he
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talks about giraffes and how I want to say it because it's so ridiculous,
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but it's it's so funny. But no, I got to see some amazing
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things, and you know, was also able to experience culture. Really got
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out there, like did a lot of excursions. Beautiful beautiful land right,
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beautiful beautiful water. I'm talking about one of some of the bluest water you've
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ever seen in your life, just gorgeous. Was able to actually go to
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the home of a Massai family and learn about their culture and and and actually
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was welcome into the family along with my group. They sing as a song
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of celebration like it was. It was it was fire, it was fire.
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And you know, I've been enjoying. I've been to Ghana previously,
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so that's my fore way into into the continent thus far. But I would
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I'm absolutely in love with all the different countries in Africa and and I'm just
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happy that I'm finally getting to do what I wanted to do since I was
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a kid. Like my next my next thing, Like I've always wanted to
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go to Kenya. Want to go to South Africa. I mean, I
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want to go down there everywhere. When I was coming back, someone who
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was from West Africa, they was like, yo, you need to go
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to Cultovoir. Obviously. I want to go to Egypt like I was.
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I just want to hit all the like the hot spots and see what it
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is. You know. Obviously, want to go to Nigeria with friends.
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You know, my sisters in Nigeria right now. Word she did, she
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got peoples there. Yeah. Yeah. My sister does a lot of Ephos
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spirit work and so she's over there right now doing that right now. So
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she's gonna be there till mid March. Yeah, oh wow, although she's
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out there for real. Yeah, she's out there for a minute. Yeah,
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yeah, oh that's what's up. Yeah, definitely want to go there.
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But again, just I was just so happy and just kind of overjoyed
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and felt really good and humbled by being able to do that. So nice.
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Whudos to Tanzania. Congratulations, that is great. Thanks. I've just
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been here in the crib. You know what I mean, I've been hearing
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the twenty degree with it. I mean, basically, you know, that's
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all I've been doing is struggling through this winter. You know, it's been
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It's been good though, you know, you know that's that's that stroke.
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It's been good. Note you know, I mean, I'm gonna hold you.
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That was a hard pillow swallow when I started seeing the reports that there
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was snowing and then I had to coming back out of connect through Paris and
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it's fucking snowing the ground in Paris, and I landed and I said,
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oh shit, like I sunk in my chair, like be back to this
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the ghetto. Oh well, welcome back. Well up there to be in
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my hometown. But geez, Louise, there it is. Yeah. But
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I've been good, you know, things have been good start off of the
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year. I've been you know, as you know, as we've been talking
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about on the shop and putting out a lot of music. I've got a
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new mix dropping. By the time you hear this, it'll be out.
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So I gotta sharing your music a lot, and especially funny enough, in
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Tanzia some of the best freaking high speed service I've ever had for my phone.
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When I say that, Lte and fig was hitting on Sofari, I
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was like, hey, yo, so I listen it was it was beautiful.
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So I was sharing your music out there too. Oh, thank you
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very much. Yep. I got a new mix and a new edit pat
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dropping, and I'm still really heavily pushing this Beyonce joint because I love it.
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So make sure you go follow me over on band camp and SoundCloud,
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dj Ben I mean on both of those. But you know, we've been
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talking enough about ourselves and there's a lot of things going on in this you
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know, world of geek in pop culture. So first I guess we should
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just address it, you know, since I did start of the show with
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standing and Lego my echo. I guess I don't know, man, I
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cannot lie at this point. I'm just somewhat tired of talking about the MT
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overall. I'm just like, it is what it is. So you do
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believe fatigue is real, Marvel fatigue is real. I think mid storytelling is
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real. Yeah, I think mid storytelling. And I would not say Echo
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was mid storytelling. It's not, it's not. I think it's all No,
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okay. I think my fatigue has to do with discussing superhero films and
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television with fans and doom. That's my fatigue because it's an apossibility. It's
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like I was talking with my boy DJ Loki the other day, big fan
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of the show from Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, of course. Yeah.
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I was talking with him the other day and he was talking about DJ's complaining
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the most out of anyone in the world. And I fully agree we are
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some of the most complaining people in the world. But I think right behind
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us are nerds. And I think because like MCU fans are one of them,
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they are so impossible to please, right And I don't know this person's
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name, but this is part of and parts of it. We were going
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back and forth on Twitter this week and they were last week and they were
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talking about how I gave one division a B minus and or B plus or
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something, and I gave Echo a C plus or B. It was like
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they're basically close, really closely related letter grades. And my issue is that
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was breaking down the fact that we talked on this show for hours at a
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time about these properties and then breaking it down to the these letter grades,
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trying to make a point. And I feel like that's a lot of the
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discussion that happens around these films. It's people wanting to make a point in
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arguing instead of just talking about it and enjoying it for what it is.
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Like I enjoyed Echo for what it was. It was a cool, nice
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series. It was five episodes. They were less than an hour. Most
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of them were like thirty minutes, really thirty five minutes, so there wasn't
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much time in it, much time invested, and it was cool. Are
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you talking about arguing or critiquing, I'm talking about both. I think I
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think that arguing comes because we post our critiques and then we are expected to
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defend them to one hundred people at a time. Well, it's kind of
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in that and that's where my fatigue come, Like, Okay, that's what
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we are here to do. That's see, that's what I'm saying that's where
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my fatigue comes from, because for me, Echo is just like, oh,
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okay, it's cool. Now there's something else you want to talk about
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later on the show. It's something like Blue Giant, this film that I
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saw this year, which is fucking incredible, and I can spend time talking
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about it, you know what I mean. I don't want to spend time
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talking about Echo. It was cool. I'm talking about the Bear. I
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can spend time talk about reservoir dogs. I can't spend time talking about Echo.
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I would also say, as a body of work is you don't have
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as much as you get in the Bear series, or as much as you
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know, as much time. And that was the other thing, like some
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like the same person said they enjoyed Iron Fit season two more than this because
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they at one point they said Iron Fist was better than I was. You're
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you can't start off like that. I don't take you seriously after that,
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and they said, well I enjoyed yeah, And I said and they said,
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well, I enjoyed iron fifth season two more than this, And I
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say, bro, iron Fist season two. That means there's thirteen episodes in
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seasons. It was the whole season thirteen episodes in season two, So that
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means the writers and creators had thirteen episodes which they spawned it in the first
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season, establish everything, and then thirteen more to bring you into it.
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Echo had five it was a limited series and ipants for an hour each.
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Yeah, I mean, it's comparing at least when you're talking about amount of
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content and things to go off of. It's comparing apples to oranges. I
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mean, and I I would have never said that one. But no,
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but like em for season two wasn't that bad because like you said, you
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know, they focused on Wing. I wouldn't even that's crazy again, And
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that's the other thing, is like why do you have to compare them to
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each other? I wouldn't. Wand Division is a completely different show than Echo,
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just like Echoes are completely different show. They're just just I don't know.
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I enjoyed Echo for what it was. That's what my you know,
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basically critique comes down to. I thought it was good. I thought Shorty
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playing Mayle was you know, fantastic. They didn't agree. And that's the
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other thing. People it's like becomes the thing, right They're like, oh,
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she didn't emote, she didn't do this, she didn't do that.
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I'm like, I thought she did. I thought and that and that's and
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that's. Yeah, it can't it can be more than that. If you
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think one thing and I think another, we're not gonna you know, it's
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cool, that's fine, but I'm not gonna sit there and go back and
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forth with you about that. And that's where it becomes. That's where I
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feel like this, I'm like, my fatigue comes in. Okay, Yeah,
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I mean, being a limited series, I also felt the same.
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I thought it was cool. After seeing it, I would still give it
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like a B minus seen the full things. I know, the last review
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we did was just the first what three episodes, and then the last two
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episodes came out like during the break. So yeah, like overall, probably
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B minus. You know, had Or was my favorite out of all of
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the limited run. And I mean cause it did everything I think it needed
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to do, just in terms of characterization. Like I said, I felt
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like she was emoting throughout the whole thing. That's the reason why I liked
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her and continue and will continue to like her when she continued to be introduced
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and in fact, Echo has done better than a lot of people expected and
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people think because like it actually helps stir renewed interest in the Netflix series and
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all the street level as they call the Street Level heroes. To the point
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where it started, Disney plus themselves started pushing all the other old shows like
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oh, oh, if you look at it right now, it goes oh,
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like echo, you want to watch Jared Double And obviously that's an easy
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end, but still like it gets people interested. So the fact that it
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gave that new renewed interest and what we said before, the fact that it
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was a platform for indigenous communities like specifically Witch tribe. Do you remember Wisch
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Tribe, Chaldaw, the chalk Taw tribe. Like, I think it did
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well for what it had to do in this limited amount of space. I
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think it did well. And it's just hard to try to compare it to
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something that's had thirteen episodes and had the time to either squander or utilize it
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very well, depending on what show you're talking about, right, I just
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I don't think that's fair. And as far as like subjective responses on whether
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or not you like the person's acting or this or that, I mean again,
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that's subjective objective. Yeah, And I don't mind that, you know,
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I do hear what you're saying, though about It can get tiresome when
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it's just like I'm not going to sit here and argue with you to make
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you agree with me. It's like, yeah, here's my thoughts, here's
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your thoughts. Cool, let's keep it pushing. Yeah, And it becomes
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tiresome to me when people are like, well you thought this like this,
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When people are like that person said the first thing, they're like, this
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is crazy to listen to I don't think people also understand how it sounds when
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they talk to us. You know, it's like like they're listening to the
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show and they're like, this is crazy to listen to it. I'm like,
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we'll turn it off. I think I think for everybody listening, I
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think we got to remember like and I would hope this is the case.
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One of the reasons why y'all look like to listen to us because we have
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informed opinions and sometimes y'all don't agree with us. And sometimes and you're subjectively
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speaking, you're like, yo, y'all are off base. I loved it
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or I hate it or whatever it is. And I think there's constructive and
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critical fun to have in that and having different opinions and bringing about like for
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example, when we do the All Stars, ten times out of ten,
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nobody agrees with us, right, it's always somebody. Not by nobody,
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I mean, it's always one or two contingent of people on the All Stars
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that like everything we say. They're gonna say the polar opposite of that because
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that's just how they feel. And they back up their thoughts with their reasonings
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and this and that and I I and then you know we're good. Right,
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We keep it pushing because we're critiquing a body of work from our lenses,
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right, and from our perspectives and so on and so forth. So
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that's when it's cool. And we're hoping that we're doing that with you guys,
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the listeners, right, that you'll understand that sometimes y'all gonna fuck with
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us about what we're saying about something, and sometimes y'all gonna be like like
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hell and no, I disagree, and all right, so let's have the
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constructive conversation. But let's also watch ourselves because to Ben's point, like I
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don't know, people understand how crazy they sound coming at us. Sometimes it's
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kind of and it's really coming at you, man, and I apologize.
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I feel like this will never end. People come at you. People don't
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really come at me crazy, to be honest, and if they are,
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you maybe deleting those comments anyway. But I just people not and I could
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say something wild and I don't get the flag for it, So I don't
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know. Yeah, no, it is what it is with that, you
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know, people are just definitely Yeah, I've accepted that part or beginning accepting
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the villain. I guess. Yeah, I've accepted being a villain. And
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sometimes I'll say things just to sit up get on you because they know you're
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fucking shit. Stirs sometimes, yeah, but I'm also a shitster who stirs
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scenes from a point of like this is reality, you know this, yeah,
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from y'all. Y'all are not really paying attention here. And that's something
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else said. I stirred things from a point like you said, we come
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from a very informed viewpoint, like something I wanted to make to that person,
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and like we are distressing but aren't We're dancing around. It's like the
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idea of real estate in real estate is something we learned when you get into
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the writing room and just in Hollywood and general. It's like what it's a
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term people use a lot. It's like how much real estate do you have?
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And so Echo only has this amount of real estate. And that's something
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I always talk about when it shows that involve culture, that involve POC,
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a lot of their real estate has to be taken up. Doing things that
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are show that straight white people does not have to be done because the straight
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white people are the norm, and so you don't have to explain their culture
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to you. You can just tell a story. But Echo has explained the
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culture of the chat taw and then tell a story and be entertaining and do
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all these other things. So that's why when people are critical of these types
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of shows, I really am like, yo, relax a bit, you
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know, like this is a good ass show that did a lot more than
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what Iron Fist ever did in two seasons, which involved Asian culture. So
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it's really kind of disrespectful, you know what I mean, because it was
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like our inference was straight disrespectful to Asian culture over twenty six episodes. Wow,
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this was in four and a half maybe you know of time wise of
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real estate time hm, and had so much more to do. But people
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don't take that into account. A lot of people don't because and I get
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that, because that's a very inside Hollywood type of thing. To understand.
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You have to get you have to understand what it's like when someone says you
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have twenty two pages to tell this story, not twenty three. Mm.
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That matters, that that last page matters. So I don't give a shit
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with that last page. Ass you got twity too, bro, Yeah you
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know. But I will say, regardss of how anyone feels Disney has in
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Marvel. Disney Marvel has seen this as a success. Yeah, that was
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something, and it's been sus well, it was like the at least over
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what that few days period, at least or maybe even that first week,
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it was the most wide Disney plus show Marvel. Anyway, Man, we're
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just too critical, man. And it's opened the door for a Loqua Cox
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and again apology if I'm mispronouncing pronouncing her name, but it's opened the door
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for her continue, open the door for that character to continue and continue to
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be integrated into future Marvel stories. So I think it did what was supposed
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to do. Yep. And now you want to see us talk about something
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that didn't do what it's supposed to do What If season two? But they
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didn't do that one episode with the other indigenous character Ki episode prompt otherwise,
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forget it a boo from me. It's a boo for me. And I
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know sometimes we try to be careful about I'm gonna tell you my sentiments,
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my real life sentiments. I kept falling asleep over and over and over again.
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So I have saw because we we got the episode. We got the
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episodes a week ahead of time. Yeah, And so I watched the first
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half and then I think I I was right before New Year's right something,
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Yeah, it was before New Years. So I wrote the first half and
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then I went away for New Years yep, and properly forgot about it.
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And then like a week later, I was like, oh shit, I
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didn't finish what If? Did I That's not a good sign, not at
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all. What If Season one? And I know people are gonna feel completely
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different from me. Some people may agree what If Season one was Nah,
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it was for me. It did what it was supposed to do. It
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provided that additional view of the multiverse and what it means to have characters that
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you know and love but being presented in a different manner in a different world
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and having a different background technically too, and what that looked like and the
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creativity the fucking zombie episode. I don't even fucking like zombies and none of
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that shit, and that shit went hard, and shit was crazy and it
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was a fucking catalyst and was used with from fucking Sam raimy like like in
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a later movie. I'm just saying, like, there was just so many
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things that you could pick up. Obviously there's a child episode. Yes,
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there's the heart strings there. Okay, Wait, let's be clear. Sam
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Raimi was did not was not influenced by What If. Sam Raimi didn't watch
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nothing. He said that. He said no straight up here, he did
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not watch whatever. The nigga didn't watch WandaVision. He ain't watching What If.
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I know this. Nigga ain't watch this. No, no, no,
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we ain't doing that because that's not fair than people who made that what
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If. And it ain't fair to Sam Raimi for not making because because fuck
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that bullshit. Hell no no, I'm not giving that nigga that credit.
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No, that's not fair. The niggas did that and what If, and
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this nigga did what he did on his own. You don't. You don't
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have to give him the credit. The point is that there's clear rather on
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purpose or not, there's through lines there that made it easy. And that's
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a goddamn problem with because everybody want to answer you to be just like,
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oh, it was always condented, No nigga, These niggas don't give it.
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Sometimes it works out. Let's be clear. It was always connected fifteen
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years ago when it was one movie, that's who It was always pronected when
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it was Iron Man because they didn't have to worry about it was all connected.
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I won't okay. Once there was like two or a lot of time
24:22
it was all connected. It is came I don't know what happened. No,
24:29
No, it was never that. When you go back and watch any
24:32
of the makings of it this is great series on Hulu. When they went
24:34
back and they go back up to like past the first of injuries, it's
24:38
always by the seat of their pants and they're always hoping this ship worked.
24:42
So it's like they never really had. The overarching plan was Danos is going
24:48
to show up at some point. That was the plan. It was nothing
24:56
else, and then it worked out, and now it's not working out he
25:03
can't win them all. But no, that's a proud you had an unbelievable
25:07
streak with flying by the seat of your pants. It's like Lost being perfect,
25:11
you know, it's like Game of Thrones being perfect. All these flew
25:15
by the seat of the pants and didn't do it, even if not by
25:18
a meticulous millimeter by millimeter plan. I'm just saying, don't. Yes,
25:22
they were like, sure, it's some seat of the pants there, but
25:26
we cannot see it. Act like there was no planning either. This was
25:29
not nigga, let's write this next movie. That's not what I was saying,
25:38
which was What If? Season one was that girl? So I was
25:45
extremely excited to see What If Season two? And for me it was a
25:48
ball and I can't Like I remember I saw the trailer. The animation look
25:53
like they stepped up. This would be dope. I was somewhere around that
25:57
hell up. So I was like, what the fuck is going on here?
26:00
That's what the one I fell asleep on like three times, and I
26:04
was like, okay, cool, cool, cool, all right, let
26:07
me try this on my top, Like just why am I? Why is
26:11
this happening? And it should not be happening like and I was really irritable.
26:17
But one thing I do not like, and I know some people do
26:18
like this, I hate them weird seasonal Happy Gold Lucky typoles, like literally
26:26
the one featuring Happy but those types of things that are I don't give a
26:33
fuck what it was. I hate that ship. I hate that that Christmas
26:37
or holiday themes stuff. It pisses me off because it's just you're just trying
26:41
to fit that very specific motif and it annoys me. And it's rarely done
26:45
in a clever way that I like funck with, Like, oh, y'all
26:48
really flipped that shit on his head? Cool? Cool cool to me.
26:49
I was just like, here we go again, Like I just I just
26:52
wasn't fucking feeling it then, all right, that one, that one I
26:55
had to disagree that one because it was a Diehard tribute and I love Diehard,
26:59
so it worked for me. Now when it didn't work for me,
27:02
it is you probably fell sleep for this is later on in the season that
27:06
Happy Dano's looking Nigga shows up again, and it really made no sense when
27:11
he showed up again. Hope the Purple Hope Nigga, Happy Happy Hope,
27:15
the Happy Hope, and it was like, why is he here again?
27:19
I didn't like him the first time. Yeah, I don't know, said
27:25
AKA happy hole Colgan. I ain't using it because that's I'm not in whole
27:29
Cogan. I ain't using no, no, ain't no association here. But
27:34
that feeling is what I felt through the whole thing, So I don't I
27:37
don't know. Yeah, no, I like giving Yeah, I like that
27:40
die Hardship, but that I didn't like that purple ship, and then when
27:42
he showed up beginning, I didn't like it at all. So now annoyed
27:51
they did such animation, still looked fucking fire. Everything's still beautiful. It's
27:56
just the stories were lacking for me. So I'm looking forward to being for
28:03
season three to redeem the legacy. I mean. The reason why because we
28:07
saw they released like I think six stills and one of them was like a
28:10
fucking Gundam and they merely got me that ship. I was like, oh,
28:12
what the fuck? And then Sam Wilson's gonna be in one whatever,
28:15
whatever, We'll see what happens. Boot a chance. I'm gonna watch the
28:22
ship. The animations though, I'm gonna give it a watch, but you
28:26
know, they're gonna have to. Really, they're gonna they hope they paid
28:29
attention to the criticism. Let's say that you know they understand, you know,
28:33
let's hope. But what crazy it's already done or almost gonna be done.
28:37
I don't think so. I think they hyping that ship like that,
28:38
but they just have a few images and like hair, what we're working on
28:42
is not. I think they realized that season two was boo and they were
28:45
like, yo, we gotta you know. I remember when they when they
28:49
released and talked about season one, season two was already done. Kind of
28:53
no that that wasn't exactly it was like they were working on Remember because season
28:57
two contains an episode from season one that didn't get finished in top for season
29:03
one, the Gomora that was like, but wasn't if I recalled, I
29:07
have to look it up again. I recalled there being reports out a lot
29:10
of it was done already or like or just maybe that's the fact that it
29:12
was greenlit before season one was like fully even like out there they were like,
29:18
oh, by the way, season two was definitely coming. I don't
29:19
know, I don't know. This is a completely side note, but like
29:23
right now, the NBA is on and super Sys. I'm just throwing away
29:27
in my whole career right now. Anyway. I just try to say,
29:30
it's really crazy the amount of like free Palestine from Hammer's commercials. Did you
29:36
see, because I don't really see. I don't watch a lot of TV
29:40
like that. Yeah, it's on American television right now, yes, like
29:44
every commercial it's and and the Comar one Day got on right now where he
29:47
fucks me up because it shows all these dope images of like this Middle Eastern
29:51
country, like people partying, having a good time of all this stuff.
29:53
And then it's like, this is what Palestine could be like if not for
29:56
Hammers. And it's like, if not for is real keeping y'all on an
30:00
open air prison. You know, I'm not sure which one, you know,
30:03
came first, but I'm pretty sure the open air prison came first.
30:08
Yeah, I don't really know. So, yeah, I'm throwing my career
30:12
anyway. But it's always free power, start, free to Congo, free,
30:15
you know, yeah, free all pressed people everywhere. And goddamn Israel
30:19
be slick with they bullshit, boy Jesus Christ. I mean they learn from
30:22
the best, right, you know. I like Sandwich that in because now
30:26
we're gonna talk about Invincible, So get your politics and nerd culture here.
30:36
It's just it's like I don't watch a lot of TV. You know,
30:38
like basketball pretty much the only normal TV I watched where I see commercials.
30:42
So it's like, what you know, like this, I don't got commercial
30:45
I don't watch TV commercials at the game is at an all time loan,
30:53
I'm gonna have to keeep selling Heroin just to make ends meet. Oh man,
31:00
what happened to that dream? What happened to Michael? Yeah? Michael
31:06
John White's the Western, His Western, Yeah came out. Yeah, I
31:15
think coming this year. I think it's coming this year. The spiritual sequel
31:18
of Black Dynamite. Man. I need that. I need that in my
31:22
life. Boy, jeez, I don't know. I can look it up
31:23
for you, but I'm still quoting Black Outlaw, Outlaw Johnny Black. Yes,
31:27
Yes, down, log Johnny Black. What's it come on? Give
31:30
me a release date? Please? I need that? Is that as a
31:36
twenty twenty It says it as a twenty twenty three film. Mystery it was
31:45
released. It was released to September this past September, September fifteenth, No
31:48
fucking way. I'm about yes fucking way, it says outlaw. Johnny Black
31:52
was released on September fifteen, twenty twenty three, in US and Canada.
31:56
It opened. It opened in three hundred and seven theaters, what and gross
32:01
the total of three hundred and nineteen thousand dollars. I it came out,
32:07
I mean, I remember the trailer being like making some splash, a little
32:09
bit of splash, and then never heard about it. So where is it
32:14
available? All to streaming? You two for fort ninety nine, Amazon Prime
32:17
for for ninety nine, Voodoo for six ninety nine, Apple t beef,
32:22
and Google Play movies. All right, so the ourlog Johnny Black now available
32:25
streaming. I cannot believe that that. Really we need to get Michael back
32:30
on the show because that's ridiculous that that. I mean, I cannot imagine
32:34
it not being another classic, Like I get it may not making you know,
32:37
not a be in a theater smash. I don't expect this movie to
32:38
be and I know he doesn't. This man makes his money. You know,
32:42
we already talked to him on the show, and he knows how he
32:44
makes his money. So that was just probably I'm not sure why you even
32:49
put in a theater, probably just for you know, whatever reason. Before
32:52
we get to the Invincible, I did want to also mention this reminded me
32:55
talking about Black Creators that Michael B. Jordan is reuniting with Ryan Coogler to
33:01
do a vampire period piece. When I say, yes, God, I
33:07
mean it because I fuck with vampire stories and we're gonna get kill mongerl Back
33:13
and and that tag team, if you will. So I'm looking forward to
33:19
that. Like all I heard was black Man Vampire, and I was like,
33:22
I was there, so I'm interested to see how that goes. But
33:24
I didn't hear that. I heard. I heard period piece, and I
33:30
heard like spy. I didn't hear vamp vampire. I'm sure there's other shit
33:32
going on, but this specific is reported to be a vampire period that's dope.
33:38
I just got excited like immediately, so I was like, yes,
33:42
I'm here, uh And then yes, Invincible. They're annoying as fuck,
33:47
Like I love the show and let me tell you and I know you know
33:50
you've you've been a prolific reader of the comics and you know everything about it
33:54
and all this other stuff. They they they aggravated me because they may an
34:00
announcement on January twenty second to announce that the second half the season will be
34:05
dropping March fourteenth, And I was like, way to drag it, because
34:07
like, I didn't need an announcement for the announcement that we're gonna get it
34:12
in a couple of months. Number one, right, and number two,
34:15
it was like, was that a mistake for them to have such a I
34:20
mean, let me back up for a minute. It takes time to make
34:22
these Yes, it takes time to do this work. Okay, yeah,
34:25
whether or not it's ready or not or I don't know, right, but
34:30
didn't make sense for them to split the season up like this. I don't
34:34
know. I think Okay, now, I think this is why they split
34:37
the season up is because they were splitting this season up because they knew they'd
34:40
been away for so long and they knew that there was still gonna be a
34:45
little bit more time in between season two and season three. Now recently,
34:51
but is it Skybound Strybounders Kirtman's trumpany they bought a studio in Japan, so
34:57
they are really ramping up on the animation side, and they're gonna be cranking
35:01
out a lot more things. With Invincible being such a hit and there being
35:07
a lot of characters in the Invincible universe that they could exploit. I see
35:10
them doing more shows and stuff like that. And I see, even though
35:14
they haven't made an announcement, I bet season three probably drops around the same
35:17
time this year as season two did, like you know, November December of
35:22
this year of twenty twenty four. Okay, and then perhaps not do this
35:27
break again because I think they see that people are pissed and that's why they
35:30
bought the studio so they can crank up, you know, their output.
35:34
Okay, Yeah, so I think this will be the last break and hopefully
35:37
we start getting longer seasons, even maybe ten episodes at least, because Invincible
35:44
goes on for a minute, like it's uh, I want to say sixty
35:51
issues. That's a little longer than that, I think, actually know,
35:53
it's what am I to about? Is longer than that? Som what year
35:58
they come out on? Mid two thousands? Yeah, it's like over one
36:01
hundred. I'm bugging the six issues only like five years of brand for like
36:06
ten years, I think I can't remember. I'd have to look at trades.
36:10
But where we're at right now with Invincible, with ainstrom Levy just being
36:15
introduced and just getting blown up, where there's a there's just so much.
36:21
There's a lot. And I keep saying this every time we talk about this,
36:24
but there just really is. So I'm really anticipating to see where we're
36:30
at at the end of these next four episodes. That'll let me gauge how
36:34
much longer they could really stretch this out. For they could easily stretch it
36:38
and correction. This series began early two thousands, ye early, Yeah,
36:43
January twenty two, twenty, two thousand and three, two thousand and three,
36:46
and it had one hundred and forty four issues. God damn. Yeah,
36:51
And right now we are somewhere around like don't say issue too no there
36:58
We're like, I don't want to. I have to go check, you
37:00
know, but I don't want to say we're pasted, like fifteen twenty or
37:04
so, I don't. That's still nowhere descrassing the surface. Still, yeah,
37:07
because the comment moves, you know, it moves, like every six
37:10
issues is a big change in status broke. Okay, no, but things
37:15
have moved far and fast because the Guardians of the Galaxy get killed at the
37:21
end of Guardians of the Globe. Globe, Yeah, Guardian Globe get killed
37:24
at the end of six. I think, so certain things have moved faster
37:29
in the show, and then certain things they've taken a little more time with.
37:32
But they're like, as far as the amount of episodes, we're moving
37:37
at a good clip. I know that. Yeah, we're moving through the
37:39
story very you know, Like for the amount of episodes we've had, we're
37:43
moving through it. It's just there's a lot of story, you know what
37:45
I mean. Yeah, but we're moving through it quickly. They're not doing
37:47
slow. The series ended in the series again started two thousand and three,
37:52
it ended twenty eighteen. No, that was a major part of my life
37:57
reading this book, Like you know what I mean that, Like I like,
38:01
I tell people I saw Walking Dead on the shelves when it was Issue
38:05
Too, and I was like, Oh, that's a dope title. What
38:07
the fuck is that about? Pits it up? And then you know,
38:10
started liking that book, and then either in the letters page or someone at
38:16
the comment store was like, oh, if you like this, you should
38:19
read his other book, Invincible. And then I picked up Invincible, and
38:22
I was like, Oh, what the fuck and it's like, my favorite
38:27
story about Invincible is after I finished it, well after that, I think
38:30
this book was done by that point. Yeah, I think it was done.
38:32
Guru Young Guru was asked me about some comics and I was like,
38:37
yo, bro, you gotta check out Invincible. So he goes pits up
38:38
the First Trade, comes home, reads it, calls me up. He's
38:43
like, yo, what the fuck? Why you ain't tell me? And
38:45
then he goes back to the common Store and buys the whole series. Yeah,
38:52
And it's like and I was like, bro, if you think the
38:55
First Trade, and that's why I keep telling everybody what we've seen so far
39:00
are it's so light, work fair, It's so light. But where this
39:06
series goes, I'm with it, Nigga. It's so light, Like it's
39:10
like nothing has happened yet. That's what I mean, nothing of the overall
39:15
story. It hasn't even begun, really, you know what I mean,
39:19
The real story hasn't even started yet. We're like so stretching the service of
39:23
where this book goes. Man, and I love it. And there's and
39:27
like I was talking to another friend of mine about it, there's certain shit
39:30
in this book that I don't think I've ever seen in any medium, you
39:35
know what I mean that it's certain storylines that I just haven't seen. And
39:39
if they've been done, they definitely haven't ever done that much. But I
39:42
haven't seen them. And since I was talking about it, I was,
39:45
I asked my boy about it. I told him what the storyline is.
39:47
I won't say it on here, but I told him and he was like,
39:51
that's wild. He was like, I don't even know if they can
39:52
do that on the show. And I was like, bro, they have
39:54
to because it's such a big part of Invisible story. They have to.
39:59
It's just it's and this has broken a lot of like alleged things that they
40:04
couldn't do, and they fucking did it, so they breaking them all.
40:07
This is like some other ship and so, and there's a few things they
40:12
do in the series that are, you know, pretty like interesting, but
40:15
this is just this ain't even like some superhero I mean, it involves superheroes,
40:20
but this is just some like real life ship that I don't ever see
40:23
handled on spring or even talked about a lot. And whenever it is talked
40:29
about, it is all I'll say too much there. But yeah, it's
40:31
just not done and I want to see them get there, so I'm really
40:36
happy for you. Yeah, what I mean like, this is a series
40:39
that I think I'll be able to talk about a lot. I won't be
40:43
like, Okay, you know that was cool. Let me move on,
40:45
you know, d damn it, don't bother me about my Echo review.
40:47
You know what I mean, it was like but invincible. I'll be like,
40:50
all right, let's talk, you know, Because one, I love
40:52
the book so much and there's gonna be some shit I really undering just how
41:00
far I think and that storyline. I'm just talking about it so far ahead,
41:04
but there's a storyline coming up that I think they might get to.
41:07
But if they do this cliff anger at the end of the season, niggas
41:10
to be so mad. I'll tell y'all that, y'all niggas be so mad.
41:15
I'm already mad. Y'all gave me an announcement for an announcement. I
41:17
mean, if this, if this ship ends all where I think it's for
41:22
the end of four episodes, y'all motherfuckers to be so tight if they gotta
41:25
wait that long to see what happens that because I was tight when it was
41:30
a month a month for the coming and watching this show. Yeah, I
41:37
don't think they'll end on that one. That's too long a gap, that
41:39
that's too big a thing that happens for them to end. And wait,
41:47
I tried to beat his ass and we waited a whole year. I understand.
41:53
But my point is they don't care about making us wait. No,
41:57
but that what I'm saying. That type of ship you can wait. What
42:00
I'm talking about, the type of ship that comes up, you can't wait
42:02
on the ship that like, That's why I keep telling you that. If
42:06
I keep telling everyone that whole huh, it's gonna be so forgotten. You
42:10
know what I mean? All those means, all that ship, all them
42:14
niggas getting stroumotion in the subway. Nigga, who cares it is to be?
42:17
It's minor? You know what I mean. It's like it's a blip,
42:24
it's nothing, y'all say, ready for that? Like, that's what
42:30
I mean. People, y'all need to go read the book. That's what
42:32
I'm saying, because that type of ship is like, who cares like that?
42:37
Yes, Oh, nigga beat his ass? What what? That's what
42:42
I'm talking about? What I mean turns into the melting emoji. I mean
42:52
a nigga again. His ass beats one thing, but you know we're gonna
42:55
take a quick break. There's worst thing, second a fault. This man
42:59
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44:57
we got to drop a new episode for him in January. So oh,
45:00
I thought you were going to say every dollar helps out a brother.
45:04
So I'm like, I swore you was going to say that. Next you
45:07
got that cadence like you were about to say that every dollar helps brother.
45:10
No, my brother, you got to get your people. Still. Does
45:15
anyone even know where that comes from? Now? Or I've never heard of
45:19
that phrase. I've never Oh man, Yeah, that see that's a that's
45:22
a it used to be this old commercial where it's like it was running them
45:27
like I think it was Soul Train of somebody, but it's somebody like that,
45:30
and there was it was a collection of music, you know, and
45:32
so the dude's like, damn, man, you got all these songs on
45:36
the CD, this joint jamming. Let me get that. No, my
45:38
brother, you got to get your commercials are outrageous. No, it's so
45:47
terrible. But it's like, you know, it's just like, you know,
45:51
everybody in the hood to smack their head and it instantly became you know,
45:54
catch phrase, because no, my brother, you got to get your
46:00
Yeah. So no, you ain't got to get your own right here,
46:05
you can just hit follow, subscribe on all the major platforms out there and
46:08
you'll be good to go. Man, you know, the culture is losing
46:12
gems, the fact that people don't know know my brother, But that's what
46:15
we're here for. The educate people, you know, thank you me.
46:17
Yeah, man, you know these gyms try to stay with the culture.
46:21
You know, we gotta get that recipe. It's just like, you know,
46:23
like, do you want people to start forgetting I don't rewatching Chappelle,
46:29
So so wrap it up be you know what I mean, Like, are
46:34
you already forgotten that one? I don't know if I knew it to be
46:36
in with you didn't watch Chapelle show. I did, but I don't recall
46:39
that wrap it up B was when they it was a Spanish dude Who's on
46:44
there and the guy from Half Bait those Spanish hat from Who's on Half Bait
46:46
the movie and they had this, uh it was like the wrap it up
46:51
button from when niggas We're talking too long? Oh yeah, and so that
46:54
he popped out with the wrap it up b. Don't you see the button?
46:59
Wrap it up? I'm gonna make you wrap it up because I want
47:02
to get to the rest of this these topics with this show as well.
47:10
I'm sorry one last when I was thinking about, you know, years ago,
47:14
when we had a guess just walk out on us, and I was
47:15
just wonder to could I just do that one day? But like ye,
47:19
I'm I'm done show. No. I think about it very very rarely,
47:24
but sometimes I think about that. But but I always remembered I wasn't our
47:28
fault. He came back later, he said, he said he just he
47:30
just wasn't. Man. We can say it now. It was like a
47:34
million years, but he was just like I just wasn't feeling. But then
47:37
he came back with like a day or so later, so it's just funny
47:40
to me. But he gave us a classic drop that we can't use anymore
47:43
because it was our old name. But Homeboy saying band was a great guest.
47:46
But yeah, he straight up yo. We were sitting in the studio
47:50
with this man. He was like, I'm sorry, y'all question I think
47:54
and he was like I can't do this, and we got to ask him
47:58
a question. I think I just said how are you okay? Intros and
48:00
maybe said how are you? And that was like that was enough. He
48:05
was like, actually I got to step out, and and in my heart
48:08
I was like, damn, well we deets in this nigga was like,
48:10
oh fuck with this ship. I didn't know who he was and still kind
48:15
of but I didn't know who he was. I mean, I know,
48:20
long story short, he was a guest given to us and that day that
48:25
hour something was going on internally he wasn't there with it. But then he
48:30
came back and we had a great interview like we always do. So yeah,
48:34
whatever, yep, but no, I just sometimes I think about that
48:37
and could I just get up and walk out him? You can do that
48:39
when you're in guests on other people's podcasts. Oh yeah. In fact,
48:44
I don't know you've never done it so far, but like I would encourage
48:46
you. I had the opportunity to do it last night. Shout out to
48:50
Drunk Back History and American Colins. But but you like the bunk. We
48:54
liked the blunk blunk drunk Black History guys like guy now, oh we like
49:01
them, so just be a singular too. Them could be using, but
49:13
the point is with them, so that's the right. Well. Yeah,
49:16
shout out to Drum Black History of American Collins. I was on their revamped
49:21
I was on the inaugural episode the Revamped vers the revamped version of drump Black
49:27
History to podcast, and I distrust one of my favorite people in the world,
49:30
mister Jimmy Hendris himself. And that episode will be dropping a week from
49:36
by the time you hear this. So thanks for burying well, burying the
49:39
lead and giving away the big reveal because I did not know that that is
49:44
now who knows, well, I don't think anyone did, but they did.
49:52
I think that's the point of the episode. You literally just sag episodes.
49:59
I'm like, Okay, was he supposed to tell me this? I
50:04
probably I forgot, you know. Yeah. I mean even if you did
50:07
it for for me to affect My point is you got to walk out on
50:10
at least one interview in your life that wasn't the one. I'm going to
50:15
do it now. That's what I said, and that's why I met Like
50:16
I said, oh, we fuck with them or him like you probably wouldn't
50:20
do it anyway, but yeah, I gotta do it. I'm one hundred
50:23
percent sure you and me or one of the other will be put in a
50:29
situation where we got to get up and fucking walk the fuck out. So
50:32
I'm looking forward to it. I feel like I've done it before at some
50:36
point, but I guess I haven't. No, Yeah, I bare to
50:42
even walk out of movies. But yeah, anyway, speaking of movies,
50:46
the astronoms came out and let me just you know, do my annual thing
50:51
of saying that you know, the Oscars and most awards are basically meant to
50:55
placate play kate is at the word plackate plakate. That was right, Look
51:00
at that placate people, and even they're historically said that if you uh,
51:06
it was some producers like if I, you know, give people a bunch
51:08
of useless trophies, they'll make They'll do any movie I ever wanted to do.
51:15
So I'm reading on home much thoughts to them, And the other side
51:17
of it is that they're really a huge popularity contest. People think that the
51:22
actual people vote on them, and in some cases they do. Like I
51:25
was speaking to a friend of mine who's the industry and he was telling me,
51:29
I'm not gonna name anyone because I want to put you out there.
51:30
But they were like, no, I voted for this, and I voted
51:32
for that, and it just didn't get part of the voting body, like
51:37
randoms could vote. But that is sometimes the people are part of the voting
51:42
body are pretty busy and they might just hand it off to an assistance,
51:45
yes, or to a friend. Yes, those are still industry usually not
51:50
all the time. Sometimes it industry related, like it could be an assistant,
51:52
which technically is interestingly related, but also like are you really direct?
51:58
Are you qualified qualified yet? I mean, I'm sure you're learning, and
52:01
that's why you're an assistant but you know, but it is what it is,
52:05
so and that's what I mean. It can be a very huge popularity
52:07
contest, as is the case. I mean, we there's some stuff well
52:10
that people have issues with, But I want to talk about the animated future
52:14
that was near and dear to my heart this year, and the nominations were
52:19
Pnemona, which is on Netflix, Fantastic Fantastic, We talked about it,
52:24
which is a beautiful, absolutely beautiful film. One of those films is pushing
52:30
animation, you know, further and further, which I always love, and
52:34
story and I mean story, this is a great movie, you know what
52:37
I mean, Just like that's the thing. It's like, I don't even
52:38
think of that. It's like animated. It's just a great movie film,
52:43
Yeah, great movie, Spider Verse. I mean just what we what did
52:49
we say when we left that this is probably one of the best films period.
52:52
Yeah. To me, that is insulting that it's not nominated for Best
52:55
Film of the Year. Like that's one of the ones where it should be
52:59
not just best animated film, it should be best Film of the Year.
53:02
And I think that's a problem, and especially considered this isn't a popularity contest,
53:07
and as popular as across the Spider Verse is, it should be up
53:10
for Besson over the year. I can see that, you know, Elemental,
53:15
I haven't seen. I liked Elemental, so this is probably maybe a
53:20
popularity thing as well. Yeah, because while I don't think in terms of
53:25
just strength of just an incredible film, I put the Mona in Spider Verse
53:30
above, but I but Elemental was still a good animated feature, So I
53:35
think it. I think it deserves There's a lot of good ones out there.
53:37
Ye, well, we'll talk about that in a second. Yeah,
53:40
the Boy and the Heron, the boy in their heron, Sorry, by
53:46
the by the legend, mister Hio Miyazaki. I haven't seen it yet,
53:53
but everything that man touches his golden so you know, okay, everything peaky,
53:59
the lyrics on the line, you know, down the line. They
54:02
got a goddamn what is it? A studio Ghibli sestion on a fo Max
54:08
just press play fan and I've never been disappointed. You know, there's days
54:14
I'll be like, oh, let me watch this random joint. Another classic
54:16
classic? Wow, another classic, you guess, Yeah, because there's not
54:23
President Monica. There's another one about this little Girl that I watched last year
54:29
and I'm like another classic you know well. Also nominated was a Spanish animated
54:37
feature called Robot Dreams. I did not. I have not seen this one,
54:40
but now I want to look at look at it because they said that
54:44
that was actually a big surprise. Pablo Berger's Spanish animated film it hald have
54:49
made a major buzz dot com. So okay, I cut that out,
54:52
you know, go to those you know, special streaming services as are called.
54:57
And then you know the one that I shout out to my brother,
55:02
my writing partner, my fan for life, my brother for life, Mellow
55:07
Brown put me onto this one, Blue Giant, which is an anime from
55:09
Japan about three young college age dudes who form a jazz band. And ah
55:22
like as a musician, as someone who's you know, life is dedicated music.
55:27
Ifec'ly, there's not a lot like Whiplash, right, I always go
55:31
about the Whiplash and then the director turned around the la la language I had
55:36
still seen. I really enjoyed Whiplash as a film, but it absolutely gets
55:40
jazz just wrong. I mean, just like Buddhist man forever you thinking you
55:46
knew anything about jazz or anything about music or anything like it's just so wrong,
55:52
you know, it's just so weirdly wrong too. And it's like this
55:55
obsession with timing and everything being so rigid when this is jazz, like the
56:01
very opposite of that. And so then a film like Blue Giant, which
56:06
just gets the joy and the passion and the pain and everything about what it
56:13
takes to become a musician and to dedicate your life to something, and then
56:19
just the revelation of performing and just everything, the emotion, the story,
56:24
the journey's tids go on is like Mellow Halls in his Favorite from Me the
56:29
Year. I never it's hard for me to always say this is my one
56:31
of the year, you know, because different films for different things. You
56:34
know, That's that's always tough for me. But goddamn it, it's you
56:37
know, top five that are alive, Like easily, it's a fantastic film.
56:42
I just encourage. It's like when I saw r R, I'm like,
56:45
go fucking see Blue Giant. You know, when you have a chance,
56:47
get one. Yeah, And when you get really when you specifically get
56:52
really excited about films, I typically take key not to say that you don't,
56:55
but like when you're like constantly like no, no, yeah, it's
56:59
not it's not like it's like it's all r R. Like I watched it
57:01
again the other day and I was like, god tack. And then the
57:06
fucking shit. You know, he posted like a quick clip on Twitter and
57:08
it looked insane, so like just like the how they framed how music moves
57:15
and looks and sounds. And I was like, oh, okay, this
57:19
this looks like my cup of tea. So I'm gonna be watching it and
57:22
it takes a second to get into it. I won't lie because it was
57:24
like the first thirty minutes and so I was like, mellow, why is
57:27
this your movie the Year? And I was like, oh, like maybe
57:30
thirty five minutes. I was like, oh, okay, that's what your
57:31
movie the Year? Okay, you know the shop late, I get it.
57:37
I called him up afterwards and he was like, no, yeah,
57:40
that was the point when I got it too. You know. I was
57:43
like, up until that is cool, and then it's like oh okay.
57:47
And it might hit people different ways, but that was for both of us.
57:50
It was about thirty minutes in and then it's like the last hour or
57:53
so of and it's just like it's just you know, I was in tears
57:55
By then, It's just it's a fucking movie, man. Damn that Yeah.
58:02
Obviously, the billion dollar movie Barbie got a few OSCAR noms and controversy
58:09
along with it. Ryan Gosling, who played Ken, He got a nomination
58:14
for Best Supporting Actor. And I listen, not my not my business,
58:22
my business, And ironically enough, Margot Robbie, who played the titular role
58:28
of Barbie, did not. Neither did Greta Gerwig, who was the director.
58:34
As far as your question as to why I also not my business,
58:37
not my ministry, Greta deserved a sure, Robbie, why not? I
58:43
mean different one? My thing is the only logic, like put everything else
58:46
aside. The logic is and and again the ironic nature of it is,
58:51
like, damn, the movie even touched upon that whole thing about patriarchy and
58:54
ignoring the woman, and like, literally, harb, you nominated Ken.
59:02
This niggas is like word that that ship is crazy, and it was like,
59:06
damn, the irony is lost upon you, guys. It's just at
59:09
all, it's not a purpose like but that's kind of damn. Really,
59:19
I really am happy though that one thing that I'm actually personally like excited about
59:22
is the fact that it got nominated for like set design and things like that,
59:27
Like that set design went went crazy, it went hard, so like
59:32
that that whope absolutely wins. I don't know there, you know, did
59:36
you never know? There's some hard ones in the case hard, Yeah,
59:39
I don't even know what the other one production production people like. First of
59:43
all, I have an affinity for things for production in general and everything that
59:46
goes into it and attention to detail and the eye just like saying, hohow,
59:50
I feel about costuming because I like fashion, but all of that,
59:53
all of that background work, that's everything. So I'm really excited about that
59:59
for them, that said, that does not end the controversy. So in
1:00:01
all of this, there's this big uproar about yo, where's the nomination from
1:00:06
Margot or Greta. But then people also kind of ignore the fact or didn't
1:00:10
realize that America Ferrera also got nominated. She was also for that film.
1:00:15
She got nominated for Best Supporting Actress. So it was getting annoying for me.
1:00:21
Again, Twitter has been a very aggravating place for ever, for well
1:00:27
more so than in the past for me. Personally, like it's just very
1:00:30
aggravating and it's very negative. And I tend to like actually spend a little
1:00:35
time on there now, but I literally for weeks this last week, it's
1:00:39
just always been, you know, oh my god, why didn't y'all you
1:00:44
know, understandably, why did y'all nominate Margot Greta? This is about Barbie?
1:00:47
And then people are saying, oh my god, why y'all not given
1:00:51
shine to America, like you know, she's a Latina actress and she got
1:00:55
a nomination and why y'all white women crying and this and that, and then
1:01:00
Ryan Gosen's in the middle of like what the fuck is going on? Like
1:01:01
you know what I mean, Like it's just I wake up, like,
1:01:05
fuck Ryan Goss. Funny, it's this funny it's this funny meme video that's
1:01:08
going around of when they were at the Golden Globes and like the camera it's
1:01:13
like, I guess they won something on their table and the cameras zooming in
1:01:15
slowly on Ryan and Ryan's looking around real confused, like what's going on?
1:01:19
And they keeps showing that throughout this whole opera on Twitter, and you know,
1:01:25
I I will say that Ryan. Did you know he put like a
1:01:29
little, a little speech out that he said, thank you for the denomination.
1:01:32
However, Comma, you know what happened with my colleagues. I think
1:01:38
they deserve too. And America did something similar. She's you know, she
1:01:42
was like, you know, she was disappointed. She was just like,
1:01:45
you know, in her head, that didn't make sense how y'all did that.
1:01:47
But apparently you know why, Ben So I know they were trying to
1:01:51
be petty. That was weird though, that's like a kind of a weird
1:01:54
time to be petty. It's like it's it's nothing to be petty about.
1:01:57
And made a billion dollars over a billion dollars, like I can put it
1:02:00
out there. I think that's it's no. I think those are awards the
1:02:05
money it made. I don't like I've talked about the before and I don't
1:02:07
want to go back over, but I just did not think that movie deserved
1:02:10
any nominations, Like I think greater than a fine job. I think,
1:02:14
like you said, the said direction, it wasn't And I gave the movie.
1:02:17
I think I gave it a C. Like I was okay, yeah,
1:02:21
like let me let me take the back, like I would give a
1:02:22
nominations just on the fact that, you know, like because I really don't
1:02:28
think much of the Oscars, you know. So that's why we were like,
1:02:30
yeah, if I give them all nomination, who cares? And I
1:02:32
don't and I can't and last year I can't. I don't. There was
1:02:37
it wasn't like when r like like that. And this is what came up
1:02:39
to me that day when they were talking about this, right, like r
1:02:43
R for all the greatness of this film gets reduced to a goddamn musical nomination.
1:02:47
Yeah, you know what I mean. Like, that's why it's like
1:02:50
I can't take these seriously and I can't think of them as like I don't
1:02:53
care because r baits on everything on every level, and it turned into oh,
1:02:59
look at the brown people dancing. You know. In fact, when
1:03:04
I posted on threads about it the other day, somebody was like, yeah,
1:03:06
great action and really funny. Now you know this was a white dude,
1:03:09
and I just I couldn't respond. I was like, oh, I
1:03:12
never thought of this movie is really funny. I mean there's funny parts,
1:03:15
but you know, I never was like, yeah, that's not what you
1:03:17
know, But I mean, I'm not will never cape for a white guy,
1:03:22
but does that make him wrong and feeling that way, like if that's
1:03:24
his lens that he's Many people otherwise felt that too, and I did respond.
1:03:30
I was like, okay, cool, I didn't I didn't know people
1:03:32
that this is permeded. But you know my man talking about load ain't fire?
1:03:37
Yeah, I mean there was, there was. There was definitely comedy
1:03:39
too. There was definitely a comedic element elements. Yes, there's comedians all
1:03:45
throughout it. I brought it. Niggas was one. Niggas legs didn't wear
1:03:49
that. Nigga's arms didn't worse, so they put on like each other's shoulders,
1:03:51
like come on, Ben, that ship is fucking funny like and they
1:03:54
know it's funny, which is why they fucking did it, why they played
1:03:57
it like that. I think what you also maybe alluding what you are saying
1:04:02
but also alluding to, is the fact that people are also missing the genius
1:04:05
behind it, and it's I guess, in the way that they're communicating about
1:04:10
it, it's a reduction versus an observation and also building further upon an observations.
1:04:16
They're just saying something very plain and not really going any further, I
1:04:19
think that's what you're really Yeah, because like even to the scene of the
1:04:23
arms and the legs is foreshadowed early when they're working out together, and it
1:04:27
seems like some goofy shit, but it shows how much these two are already
1:04:30
bonded and then how much they support each other. And so it's like that's
1:04:35
the thing, is like people take this goofy this that which the movie does
1:04:39
have, but then they forget that this is an anti colonial film which has
1:04:43
all huge thing to say about that, you know, and ends with the
1:04:46
blood being splattered over the British Empire. Like it's yeah, you know,
1:04:53
that's what I mean. And so, yeah, I just don't like Barbie
1:04:58
is like, you know, a cool fling, you know, sure,
1:05:00
give him some noms whatever, but it's like it looks, it looks,
1:05:03
it does look great. It looks great, and and what's the name does
1:05:06
a great Barbie and Westerna does a great kid. And I like Margot Robby
1:05:11
as an action Yeah. I love Margot and I love Ryan for that matter.
1:05:15
Yeah, and Ryan always there's there's rumors he might be playing Nova Nova.
1:05:23
Yeah, I was wondering what happened Nova, because they now sitting in
1:05:26
the kind of like, yeah, I don't again, that could be just
1:05:29
word on the street type rumors. I hope not ship but like nothing,
1:05:32
but but they pop up. So I don't read enough Nova comments to know
1:05:36
about Dick Rider to know if he's a great character. Look, I'm going
1:05:41
to take every opportunity to call that man Dick Rider. His name is Richard
1:05:44
Ryder. I thought you was fucking around that. No, Nova's real name
1:05:51
is Richard right writer. Yeah, so I don't know enough about Dick Rider
1:05:56
the series because because because Jackie Ryan really wants to be a Dick writer.
1:06:06
This is I mean, these jokes will right themselves, folks been I mean,
1:06:15
please contain yourself. I got like, what do you mean, I've
1:06:18
got like the next year and a half to do this. Oh my god,
1:06:27
is he going to come back to be a Dick Rider again? I
1:06:33
was gonna say. I wondered if that was purposeful, Like I mean,
1:06:40
the euphemism or term dick writers. I don't know. We're talking about jack
1:06:49
and we talking about Stanley and then niggas was high comm purpose this Nigga's name
1:06:56
is Richard Ryder. Okay, I just didn't know what they saying that in
1:07:00
the seventies. I guess, oh, yes, dick has been going around
1:07:04
for a long time. I didn't mean to do that one. What is
1:07:12
right now? That was too easy? But yeah, Richard, like yeah,
1:07:17
the name Richard being a dick being a shorthand for Richards way before.
1:07:25
Yeah, but I'm talking about the term, you know, particularly what it
1:07:27
means in the black community, dick rider. What's that whole thing in the
1:07:30
seventies, That's what I mean. Since like since man walked out of the
1:07:36
caves, dick rider in any language, do this anymore with you? We
1:07:43
gotta move on. I'm not doing this with you. We gotta move on.
1:07:46
We gotta move on, bro, Like it's crazy. Niggas is in
1:07:51
the cave and nigga came by the fly ass oh fucking fur on. Its
1:08:00
just like, get off, no, get off, my digite. You
1:08:13
a bitch to come here in the mortal worlds of Ice Tea, Oh my
1:08:20
god. Yeah. And they've already said that he's playing rich Ryder because that's
1:08:25
something that that's a that's a wild show. They can avoid all this.
1:08:28
There's so many other novas. There's a whole black family of novas. But
1:08:30
now Marvel is going to lean in on this and have him played richer and
1:08:34
have someone. But like I said, don't even take Stocking in this because
1:08:38
this was a this was at this ain't there's no there's no real backing or
1:08:45
proof behind us. This was the streets talking. But they did announce that
1:08:47
they're doing the Nova movie or Nova or something with Nova. They are I
1:09:00
was trying to say, what a poster Ryan. Ryan already actually debunked the
1:09:05
rumor. He was just like, I'm walking out of this. I'm working
1:09:15
out of here, but I mean we're almost there. We're almost there.
1:09:23
Hang on from damn. We could have ended. I ain't no dead Crider
1:09:33
shows over Bro