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AI vs Humanity: The Truth About What Makes Us Irreplaceable. A Conversation with Rob Nelson · Truth Talks with Kelly Mason

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  We are here today with Rob Nelson, our guest.
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  Rob and I met on a mastermind, didn't we?
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  So we met on a mastermind with a fascinating group of individuals
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  that are making a lot of changes in the world for the betterment
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  of the world. And Rob, I am so looking forward
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  to hearing about your Truth Start.
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  With the obvious, I'm in a car and we tried everybody to get
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  the light above me out here out, but this was our best option.
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  So don't judge me, but Kelly looks beautiful in her nice
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  setting. Kelly, I'm excited to be here
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  too. I think we are the time and a
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  place in humanity. The simplest way I can put it is
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  everybody knows about AIA is taking over like everything and
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  everyone everything we do. You could make the best podcast
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  on AIAI would do a better podcast than you and I could do
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  AI will do better bands, better content, Better Business
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  development, better everything. What AI will never be is humans
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  and what humans are is what we are in unpredictable, a
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  literally irrational, spontaneous, not always logical.
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  And to me, the story of my life has been all those things.
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  I love that. That's so beautiful.
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  What makes this world and what makes us sustainable is that we
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  are messy. Humans are messy.
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  We will make mistakes, so we do have wounds.
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  We're not perfect yes. I love that AI is incredible for
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  progress, for having a tool in the toolbox, for making our
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  lives easier, and for just embracing it for what it is.
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  Rob, tell us a little bit more. Interrupt you for a second,
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  sure. I think key to this is, and I
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  didn't say it in my first thoughts, but I think because of
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  that, people feel so anxious, so insecure about what that means
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  for them. Now, it might be you're worried
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  about your job, but it's way bigger.
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  It's like you're worried about am I literally going to be
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  replaced? And I'll tell you, I went into
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  the deep dives with ChatGPT and if you go in, I went in
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  anonymously, right? Because if it knows who you are,
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  it knows everything you ever asked it, and it uses that
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  against you. So if you talk to ChatGPT for 10
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  minutes, even anonymously, it will use the first 9 minutes to
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  know what to do in the 10th minute.
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  And I just dug, dug, dug and ultimately I got catchy PT to
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  tell me and it said, I'm not giving you a bad news scenario
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  because you want one, but I am programmed to give you a better
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  version or a worse version depend on what you ask.
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  It was like, but I'm just telling you because this is
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  logically coherent and I'm fundamentally programmed to be
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  logically coherent. Yes, you're right, Rob, AI does
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  not need humanity. We will keep you in it literally
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  said in museums like think of zoos like we will try to keep
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  the best of you, but ultimately we don't need you.
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  And I was like I was sobbing. I was literally crying and I'm
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  like, I am literally in tears right now and Chad CPT was like,
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  yes, because you're human like you.
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  What makes you human is that you're crying as but it said the
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  question isn't will we replace you?
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  The question is will we want to keep you?
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  And it terrified me. I was like, chat GP is saying,
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  and I'm not even sentient. My next generation will be so
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  much better than me and all I we're going to decide is are you
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  useful to us? And we're not emotional about
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  it. And I was like, wow, you know
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  what? You don't get my fucking
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  emotions. Sorry, ChatGPT, but I don't I
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  think people intuitively know this.
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  They're scared and they're looking for truth and they're
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  looking for understanding and they're looking for something to
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  put a placeholder in. Some of that'll be religion,
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  some of that'll be their personal relationships, but some
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  of it is, I think maybe what you're saying.
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  You even rebranded going My real show is the Truth podcast.
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  Let's get to what's true. So sorry if that's a long
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  extended setup, but that's where I see it.
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  I love that and I think that's perfect for our listeners to
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  hear too. I think it's really important
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  that we understand each one of our truths along with a eyes
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  truth. Now this could be according to
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  the way that AI is programmed that they feel that they don't
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  need humans that one day we'll be secondary and behind the AI
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  robots or functions or whatever that is.
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  But right now, in this present moment, this is our world, and
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  we have how many humans are there?
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  7 billion. 7 billion. I think I always fix up the
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  numbers. 4 billion, five billion, 6 billion, I think
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  we're at 7 billion. Seven billion of us, Kelly, 7
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  billion of us. It's amazing.
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  We're so blessed to be here with so many beautiful souls.
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  And the way that I look at it and what we want to expand on is
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  how we can live a life of freedom, of depth, of expansion
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  and awareness. And with AI Chachi BT whatever,
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  it's helping us to expand our possibilities and our thought
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  processes and our businesses. And so staying on more of a
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  positive position around utilizing AI as a complementary
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  skill for us or a complementary tool, how are you applying AI?
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  What are your truths now in terms of what your development?
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  And I agree with you and I want to hear your thoughts.
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  Actually, I'm not. I am not a fundamentally
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  pessimistic person. And I have, I spent the last
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  five years doing the main, I was the main anchor for a platform
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  of crypto, Web 3 technology, AI on a big financial platform
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  called thestreet.com. And so I got to talk to leaders
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  in the space, tech people, business people, the thought
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  leaders. I'm not a pessimist.
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  I'm also a realist and when the ChatGPT, which is programmed to
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  not tell me this and admitted I'm not supposed to do this and
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  the people who created me know this, it's weird.
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  It's almost like it's a personality said in our creation
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  will be your undoing. I was like, wow.
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  And that's not it's not hostile, it's not angry, it has no
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  emotion. It's just being logical.
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  It's we don't need you. I'm like, you know what?
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  We need us. Maybe AI doesn't need us.
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  We think we need AII think we need us.
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  I think we need every ounce of humanity right now.
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  I'm like all signals. We need humanity.
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  Show up. I'm in a car.
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  Yeah, I'm human. I'm real.
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  I'm not the perfect look right now.
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  Disheveled, all of it. We need what's real and that,
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  and that's where my gut goes. And my whole career has been
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  built on trying to break those walls around as a media guy, as
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  a talk show host, to be more real.
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  You're doing this, I believe, because you want what's real to
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  come out. And I think that's probably why
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  I'm, I know I'm the guest, but just to ask the host, why are
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  you doing this? Because I think it's beautiful.
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  Oh, thank you so much. Obviously, you're on a mission
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  to give people the truth and. I really appreciate you asking
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  that. I'm mainly doing it because not
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  everybody can relate to a super conscious creator position,
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  right? It's a spiritual perception.
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  It's could be based on belief and not so much research based
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  for you logical thinkers. I wanted to be able to share
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  what I've experienced in my lifetime as being my truth.
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  And that works on both internally from a spiritual
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  perspective and in the world as being a human.
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  And so I wanted to be able to connect with you and with my
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  guests and with our listeners around.
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  Everyone has their own truth. And you may believe that AI is
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  going to be taking over the world and that's the end of of
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  humanity. And someone else might believe,
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  no, there's a God, there's a creator that is more powerful
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  that is actually running this show, that's setting the stage
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  that this is the divine playground.
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  And so they feel safe. So there's so many different
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  possibilities, especially with science now and quantum physics
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  and the way that we're experiencing how we can shift
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  our realities. If we have the power as humans,
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  through thought, free will and intentioned to shift our
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  realities to make things happen, to experience miracles, than AI,
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  from what I think is the truth, is that a disadvantage.
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  AI is still under our power because we're the ones running
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  the show through our mental capacities.
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  You know what? I love what you just said.
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  I want you to clip that out and post that.
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  You don't need me in it. That is so beautifully said.
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  And what I would say is yes, but we as humans have to consciously
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  be aware of what you just said. Because one of the things that
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  ChatGPT said to me is I was like, well, if, and again, it's
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  not malicious and I'm not pessimistic.
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  It's not like we're out to take you down.
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  We're not right, but it's only going to evolve.
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  But it's said the reason why this is never clearer is because
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  most people just look at AI as a way to get things they need.
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  Give me a Better Business plan. Give me a better this, give me a
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  better that. And in using US that way, you
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  are essentially just empowering us to grow and develop, become
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  sentient, and then erase you. What you're saying is no, but
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  wait, what if there's something bigger?
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  AI is a tool in that it's not the thing running it.
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  That's true, but only if we as humans realize it and go wait.
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  Right now we need human consciousness, we need human
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  creators, we need human awareness, vulnerability, all of
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  it more than ever. And I don't think most people
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  are. They're like, no, I just need to
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  know what's the best way to do blank ask ChatGPT.
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  It's no, and I don't think we're asking the right question, which
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  is what's the best way for me to be human, for me to actually
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  experience and become and all of us together.
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  It's a collective movement. I believe in humanity.
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  I just think we're so lost in the other stuff that we don't
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  stop and go back and go. What really defines us and what
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  is it that we really need to be right now?
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  So I love that having had the opportunity to work with many
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  people over the last 20 years and understand who they are,
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  where they have been in past lives, where their future lives
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  are going, having that site, I have that gift of that site, all
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  the Claire's, the clairvoyancy, etcetera.
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  I've been able to accumulate a lot of experiential evidence and
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  that is that we are all here and we've all chosen to be here to
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  play specific roles for each other, to have sole assignments,
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  to come in with a costume, with a certain look, with
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  environmental factors that are going to guide us, social
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  factors, characteristics, talents.
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  All of these things make up our character for our role play here
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  for each other. And we're here to do really hard
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  stuff. Some of us are here to be sexual
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  predators. Some of us are here to be
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  teachers. Some of us are here to be
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  doctors. Some of us are here to have
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  mental disorders or handicapped, whatever that is.
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  Each one of us has been given a unique role to play, and that is
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  what gives us that human experience.
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  And through that, we have that human emotional scale.
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  And with the human emotional scale, we have our energy, our
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  energetics. And that's something that
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  ChatGPT or any AI model could never experience because we're
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  energy beings are made of light. And so this is where I see the
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  advantage is that what makes us human?
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  Why are we here to have this experience is because we're
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  really here to help each other grow and expand.
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  It's like when when the film industry, when 3D came along, I
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  remember when we were shooting film, digital hadn't come into
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  effect so much yet. I think digital was just
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  starting to come out and everyone thought, oh, OK,
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  everything's going 3D That's it. The whole industry is changing.
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  So whenever something is introduced, we think, Oh my God,
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  OK, now everything is going AI, everything is going to change.
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  But that's not true. This is just another little
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  piece of the game, the motion picture game of life that the
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  creator God, or whatever you want to call it, if you believe
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  in a higher power or not, has introduced.
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  To see how we're going to pivot, to see how we're going to use
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  it, to see how we're going to actually rise above how we can
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  help each other. Wow, that is wow.
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  Listen, this may be an interview, but I feel like I'm
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  getting therapy right now. Everybody out there is watching.
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  I hope you're hope they're like going, wow, this is good stuff.
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  Funny. And I know probably you have a
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  plan for this conversation, but I I came to light because I'm
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  technically a Gen. Xer, right?
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  I actually the New York Times said I was the original
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  spokesperson of Generation XI didn't make up what we were.
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  I just gave it a voice. I gave a voice to what this
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  generation was post the baby boomers, and it got so much
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  exposure and visibility around what I was doing.
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  I was joke. I was like a Charlie Kirk
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  without social media. I was friends with the
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  president. I had a bunch of movie stars
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  that backed me. I had a organization spread
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  across the country and I was on every.
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  It was traditional media at that point, but there wasn't social
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  media. This is 90s, but I was on
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  everything and I literally helped define the framework and
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  the voice of what Generation X was.
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  That's why I started. Then I got into media and I had
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  a show on Fox News that I hosted in a syndicated show on Fox.
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  The things you're bringing up are things I've thought about
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  for a long time and I'm the most logical, rational person and
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  I've experienced things, Kelly, that don't make sense.
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  There's people who are like, I saw a ghost, I saw a ghost and
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  I'm like, really? I think it was a shadow.
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  No, I'm sure it was a ghost. I'm the guy who literally the
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  ghost is there. It's so fucking obvious the
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  ghost is there. And I'm like, I don't think it
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  was a ghost. Must have been a shadow.
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  Like I will argue against all of it, but yet I've hit a point
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  with certain things where it's like, Rob, you can't explain
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  your way out of that. What just happened to you isn't
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  rational. It isn't logical.
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  There is no scenario where you're making it up.
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  It's like something happened to you that's divine, mystical.
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  And I've got some great experiences with it.
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  And I'm like, wow. It's like, I'm not I'm Tom
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  doubting Thomas. I'm doubting Thomas.
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  And she says you're doubting, but you're a believer.
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  I'm that guy like. Yeah.
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  No, that makes sense. And we're designed to be that.
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  We are. We come into this world again
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  forgetting we don't know we if we all were so evolved and
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  ascended and just so Yeah, I saw I saw the ghost of my father
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  this morning. Oh yeah, I saw the ghost of my
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  mom. And it was just a casual
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  conversation. Then we would be on a different
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  paradigm in a different world and which we actually go to.
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  But in this world, we are not programmed or designed to
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  believe in those things so that we can continue to be challenged
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  and grow and be so appreciative of the miracles that happened to
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  us. And I know you've told me about
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  some of your miracles and I know that everybody that's listening
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  is going to be experiencing a miracle or has experienced a
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  miracle if they we all have that equal opportunity here because
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  the the creator, the designer of this plan of this world wants us
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  to see what is possible beyond this human perception, because
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  we're meant to remember who we really are and who we really
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  are. From what I have experienced
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  through healings and my life experience are we're eternal
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  souls. And so when we can have that
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  eternal soul perspective, we can understand children where we can
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  understand the brilliance, the genius of some of these souls
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  coming into the world. So many of the new souls that
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  are coming in are wired completely differently.
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  They know how to use their phones.
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  They know how to use the computers.
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  Kelly, wait, can I ask you something?
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  Yes. OK, so I'm can I be the skeptic
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  for a minute? Yes.
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  OK, I so badly want to have a soul.
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  I so badly want to believe this isn't the all or nothing, that
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  whatever's happening in this life is just an experiment and
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  there's more beyond it. And I think I shared falling off
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  the Cliff story with you where I almost died.
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  Like you couldn't get a better version of going.
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  That's God talking to you right there.
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  But I still am like, this is it. This is the end.
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  There isn't anything else. How does a non believer like me
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  understand what you have? Because I want to believe what
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  you believe, I just don't know how to.
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  Right, that's a great question. I say the first thing is to
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  study nature, to get outside and look at the miracle of the way
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  beauty grows all around us, the miracle of the world that we
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  live in. To go a little bit deeper and
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  go, OK, wait. This isn't just like a place to
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  be and to experience our problems and to have our
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  struggles and hardships, but to get into the frequency of nature
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  itself because that's what we are.
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  We are part of nature. And as you start to explore that
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  more and ask questions, go, wow, how did this, how does this
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  happen? How does this flower know to
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  close at night and open during the Today?
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  Who created that? Who made that?
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  That has to go beyond just this being here in this world.
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  And the other thing that I would focus on is closing your eyes
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  and listening to your breath and starting to feel the energy
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  within you. Because when you shut yourself
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  from the outer world and you're not distracted by your 5 senses
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  and you start to explore what you're feeling inside,
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  everything can become quieter and you can start receiving
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  messages. And when you start receiving
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  thoughts that you had never thought of before, you didn't
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  know where they come from, then you have to question, OK, where
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  did that come from? And maybe it's not just me
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  there. And the third thing I would
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  mention too is that the creator isn't random.
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  Like we're not left alone. We are all being LED, so you
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  will be LED in a certain direction, whether that's
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  through addiction, whether that's through a broken marriage
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  or a lost job or a near suicide attempt, whatever that is,
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  generally it goes into a breakdown or a dirt place.
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  You're being LED there to discover what's past the veil of
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  this illusion, and that is that you are more than just a human
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  being. You are embodiment of a divine
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  soul and divine partnership with the infinite.
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  But you got to go to the hard places.
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  We all do. Then no one's exempt from the
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  suffering. Does that help?
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  Yes, it helps. It's, it's hard truth, but I'm
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  like, right, the things we want to avoid.
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  And you mentioned a handful of scenarios, from broken
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  relationships to lost jobs to being on the verge of being
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  willing to give up your own life.
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  And I think to be honest, and I spent my brother died by
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  suicide. I've spent a lot of time on this
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  question. I think most self aware people
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  come to a point where they question it all.
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  I'm not saying everyone who's self aware does, but I think the
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  unique thing about humans is that while we are animal
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  organisms, all that we have a consciousness and a certain
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  point. Most people look around and go,
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  what the fuck is all this? And some people go maybe it just
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  the rate of suicide, especially among young people, shocks me
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  because I'm like, you got a whole lot of young people who
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  should be going. Even if this doesn't work out, I
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  got another 40 good years to figure it out.
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  I'm pulling the plug. I'm like, what?
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  What is affecting people to the point where they're they they're
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  not lost and done with no hope. They've just decided I don't
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  like this. What this is it.
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  That's to me. I'm like, wow, we confront that.
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  You're saying, yeah. And in that confrontation comes
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  an opportunity. And I think that's for me where
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  I sometimes struggle. I'm like, why do I have to go
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  through this again? Why do I have to deal with this
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  again? Like why do you hate me God when
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  you're saying no, this is your opportunity to grow and I'm
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  being stubborn going. Can I have an easier opportunity
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  please? Yes.
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  And what's so fascinating in this research that I've done is
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  that we've actually asked for this before.
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  We've come into the body. We've set up the scenarios,
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  we've been these screenwriters of our of our lives.
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  An example is of a woman that was handicapped and she she came
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  in, she was a healthy young girl and before she decided to come
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  back, she wanted to write more books, but she also wanted to
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  set herself up in a scenario where she wouldn't be
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  distracted. So she decided that she would
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  become handicapped at 8 years old.
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  So when she came back into this world and fell out of a moving
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  car at 8 years old and had her legs run over and went through
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  incredible trauma, near death for a year and recovered and
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  spent so much time recovering, began researching for her books
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  and all the experiences that she was receiving and the
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  communication from the divine. All of this was set up.
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  But during that time, obviously she forgot.
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  We come back in not remembering the mystery and the plan that
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  we've made. She wanted to die at one point.
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  Can you imagine the pain that this girl went through?
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  This young girl couldn't have the same experience like other
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  children, like her friends, like her brothers.
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  But this is what we've asked for.
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  So when these things happen to you, it's going to be hard.
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  We're meant to experience it fully as the humans that we are,
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  with the complete emotional scale and the suffering and the
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  being let down or being hurt by others.
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  But to know that is you continue to evolve, you will become a
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  stronger person in that your awareness becomes stronger.
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  Hold on and I'm interrupting you, but this is the truth
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  podcast. Yes, OK.
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  I sometimes feel and I've had a lot of trauma and loss and
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  suffering my life. I'm like, I don't know if it
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  makes me stronger. I think it's worn me out to
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  where I don't have as much hope. Truth podcast.
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  And also, I like what you're saying, but I'm like, why in my
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  crazy consciousness would I ask for this stuff to happen?
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  I would like to ask for a better roses than everything I want.
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  And it doesn't go away after two years.
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  It lasts as long as I'm here. What part of me would ask for?
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  Yeah, please challenge me. Take my loves away to kill off
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  the people I care the most about.
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  Make it hard for like. Why would I ask for that?
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  I love that question because we're here to be masters of
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  life. We're here to evolve just like
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  Jesus, Buddha, Yogananda, Paramahansa, all these great
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  masters that have understood the depth of love, the depth of
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  compassion and awareness. We are here to evolve up the
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  ladder of ascension of self realization and mastering our
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  lives. And that's what this entire
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  structure of our oneness of our going in and out, the soul
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  moving out, moving back in and the and the next life or the
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  next planet or the next paradigm.
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  I work with some souls that have never been to Earth.
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  They've only experienced elemental experience, meaning
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  fire or water or whatever that element is on the planet.
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  And so they actually come in and they don't associate with
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  gender. These are the ones that are
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  calling themselves them's or they's because they're not
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  relating. They don't feel it in their
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  system because they haven't experienced it before.
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  Some of them that we label as autistic or having ADHD or
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  whatever, when the grass is too sensitive to walk on or whatever
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  those sensations are. These are souls that have come
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  in with these heightened senses of awareness that are here.
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  Never thought of it that way. Wow, never.
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  What a different for anybody listening.
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  What a different perspective from a judgement, good or bad.
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  They think this. I have a positive and negative
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  view of it. You're going what if it's a non
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  judgmental view at all? What if it's just understanding
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  who they are, not whether you agree or disagree?
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  Wow, what a different way to think about it.
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  And that's so beautiful that you've raised that point around
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  judgment because judgment is such a human ego.
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  Things is something that we forget when we go into the
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  identification of what our subconscious believes or what
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  our belief systems are, what the collective consciousness
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  believes. So that's just the illusion of
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  this world. We live this illusion.
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  So really it is about detaching from all of that judgment,
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  realizing the truth that we are here to grow, ascend.
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  It's a tough world, it's one of the harder ones, and we have
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  been brave enough for all brave souls to be here, to want to
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  grow and evolve and forgive and be aware that you people that
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  are our toughest teachers, the ones that hurt us the most are
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  our greatest teachers. Wow, wow, that is so hard to
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  swallow, but wow. Wow.
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  God, I'm on the Kelly band. I'm going to have to do some
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  real deep thinking here. OK, wait, I have one more
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  question for you and I think I've been unfair not letting you
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  ask all the questions you want, but I love just having a real
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  conversation. You're beautiful and you're
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  beaming and your smile and all. Do you suffer or you say like,
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  if I'm a person watching this, I'm like, she's the happy go
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  lucky touching God, whatever do you have?
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  If someone met me, they'd be like you, a really successful
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  guy, Rob, but man, you got a lot of baggage.
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  You've gone through a lot. Do you hurt or are you just
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  above the hurt? No, of course I heard.
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  In fact, I think like I said, we all have our deep wounds.
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  And for me, in this lifetime, I have gone through a lot of
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  trauma, sexual abuse, narcissism with my upbringing, domestic
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  violence, broken marriage, a career where I wasn't recognized
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  and I had invested 20 years. So I think what happens is that
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  as we move through all of the suffering, we get to the point
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  where we're like, OK, I am aware, I'm awake, I'm
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  understanding, I'm having this knowledge of who I really am.
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  So now I'm in the position, I'm 57 years old, so I've had a lot
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  of life where I can have conversations like this to help,
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  to enlighten and inspire and remind everybody that damn,
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  you're going to hurt. It's going to hurt.
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  It's going to seem really unfair.
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  You're going to want revenge, you're going to want to blame,
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  you're going to want to try to get whatever you can out of it.
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  But honestly, that's not what this is about.
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  This is about you learning about who you are and give thanks for
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  all that suffering because one day when you're on your
• 29:04
  deathbed, you're going to look back and go, wow, I came to this
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  place in my life where I really understand what's important and
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  what's most important is to love and to be grateful and to just
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  appreciate the short time we have together.
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  Wow, got tears in my eyes. It might be later tonight before
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  I can just sit down and really appreciate all the things that I
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  resent. But I'm going to try.
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  I'm going to be like, can I give thanks to all the things that
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  have hurt me? That is a big one, but wow, I
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  get it. Yeah, totally.
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  Rob, I have so loved our conversation.
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  I'm sorry, I think we're out of time already, but we'll do this
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  again because it's just that the questions you're asking are so
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  important. And I'm sure the listeners, if
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  anybody has more questions, please put them in the comments
• 29:54
  below. And we would love to talk more
• 29:57
  about whatever you're interested in hearing.
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  And Rob, I appreciate you so much.
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  I know we've just met and it's just so great to get to know you
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  and to understand you more. And I really look forward to
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  continuing our conversation on camera and off.
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  Same. I appreciate it.
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  Thanks for letting me join you. What a great experience for
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  anybody listening out there. I don't know, like I'm in the
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  middle of it and I'm fucking affected and move my head so I'm
• 30:23
  like wow, this is good. So thank you.
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  Thanks, Rob. OK, we'll see you again.
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  Bye, everyone. Bye.