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Barbara Bound Bound Banger Management Fantasy Hockey
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podcast. Whoa.
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Whoa, Kevin says. Whoa, Somewhere, somewhere else.
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He actually, it's good because his computer has been revived,
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but OK, he is. Yeah, he, he said.
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He, he fixed whatever the heck that was last time that was.
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Pretty, yeah. I mean he also needs a new
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webcam because he keeps like dipping off in video but.
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Yeah, it's yeah. Roast for today for Kevin will
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be he. His tech is just garbage these
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days. Yeah, yeah, poor guy, but he is
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watching the Montreal Victoire. I wonder if Marie Philip Poulin
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would be first overall if they had like a woman's fantasy
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Hockey League. I feel like it's a no brainer
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right? Probably.
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I don't know, I feel like she's. Like I went to.
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Years and she's. Super, that's fair.
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I went to three games last season of the V12.
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It's actually a really fun show and also like way more
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affordable than the haves I got for for like a push present for
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for Eva, My wife. Well, I got her like front row
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tickets to go see the Big 12 because like it was actually
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reasonable to get. So it was and it was really fun.
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And when I went to put up a hat trick in the first game.
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So I'm like, OK, you know, this is this is legit.
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I get why this is like the one name that I know going into.
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It no, it's intense. Like they're like, I mean, you
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Lympics Canada, US is like really, really stuff.
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Like I love it with Hayley Wickenheiser and Cassie
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Campbell. Like I remember that like those
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names growing up and yeah, they're always really good.
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So that's where Kevin is. He ditched us.
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He ditched us. It's just your fries and a
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milkshake today. That's referencing our last
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episode, The Bullshit by Louisville High, which I still
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don't know if it's going to stick, but we'll see.
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Anyway, welcome into Bangor Manager with the Fantasy Hockey
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Podcast with Jake, Josh and Kevin.
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That was a heavy duty lollygagging slash.
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Kevin's not here as we know, just Jake and Josh today.
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The best duo, as Kevin likes to say so.
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So close to Drake and Josh, yes. I remember when we first made
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our group chat for our league, that was like Jake and Josh
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because you had been speaking like all the time.
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I was like, let's make a group chat.
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And then just like Jake and Josh, like Drake and Josh and
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Kevin was like, I'm Miranda Cosgrove.
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It all adds up. Funny, he's the Arthurs after
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all. Yes.
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So today is gonna be the day that they're gonna throw back to
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you. And we're also doing our Week 8
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News and updates. And Kevin's famous the selfless
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act of still giving us his would you rathers which we have not
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peaked. Have you peaked?
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I never peak. I would.
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I would never. That is the Josh guarantee money
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back in your day you've you've peaked, but you know wrong.
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You're a reformed speaker. That's really funny.
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So yeah, it's week 8 News and updates and would you rather
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Anyways, so subscribe on YouTube, we truly do appreciate
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that as well and all of our socials are in the link tree,
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you are listening, watching us. When you said let us begin
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follow us before you said all the things, you just follow us.
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I'm just like picturing like Will Ferrell and Old School
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being like we're going streaking on the quad, Come follow us
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guys. We're all going.
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Everyone's doing it crazy. Old school welfare all there,
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there's nothing like it. No, there's Unreal.
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Was he your favorite comedian of the early 2000s?
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Feel like it's it's got he's got to be definitely like yeah, top,
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yeah. So you know how they related?
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Yeah, brilliant. But you can drop a comment
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listeners of who your favorite comedian was in the.
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Early. Or how about this?
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How about favorite Will Ferrell movie?
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That's even better. Favorite Will Ferrell movie.
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And if you don't like Will Ferrell, please back up your
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claims as to why. Yeah, there you go.
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Very cool. Well, I'm taking LA Kings fans
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so, so maybe we'll get him on the get get some outreach and
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get him on the on the pod one day.
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That'd be that'd be. Awesome.
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I'd say my top is Talladega Nights, but you know, like
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actually low key Blades of Glory.
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Glory so good so. Chaz Michael, we all had to keep
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podcast got to talk about some skating.
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But anyways, let's dive in because this was an intense
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lolly gagging session. So let us begin.
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Jonathan Tonaton Miller JT Jonathan Talismanic Miller is
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out with an upper body entry. Will Cooley taking a spot on
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Power Play 1. As a former GT owner, I'm
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rejoicing because I hate him now he's on my team but uh, no it
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definitely is a big loss. Most like for anyone who has
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some other team. Like he literally put up his
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first good game of the season. He gets like 2 power play goals
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and then he's like that's it. You know, packing it in, folks.
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Actually, it's a it's a real question mark.
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I think perhaps the move to winger was, you know, a really
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good catalyst for him and that's probably why he did well.
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This is just brutal. This is like a cherry on top of
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a bad season, which sucks if you pick JT first, which you did in
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a bangers league, probably second round in a points league.
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It's just been super sad to see everything.
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One thought the change of scenery was going to help and.
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Love naming, being named captain and having the great playoff
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schedule. These are all things I want in
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my mind when I drafted him in the first round.
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But yeah. Yeah.
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It's definitely. Will Cooley Cooley has been
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awesome. Laugh sucks.
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I can't believe it. He really has to get traded.
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I saw on Instagram, I think it was like it was two people going
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at it just back and forth being like, they should do session
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call for Lafreniere. And then the other one was like,
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are you crazy? Like they would never do that,
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especially so much better. But that would be kind of cool
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way to spice things up, you know?
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Yeah, mainly. For the Rangers, cuz if love
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goes either. Yeah, disaster.
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Yeah, still no. I mean, I drafted a laugh also.
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I mean, it was pretty late in our draft, but it was this was
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supposed to be the year. Like I thought that was holding
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him back was the coaching and the fact that Gallon refused to
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put him on power play 1 and then going into the area was we're
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going to give the coach saying we're going to give laughs shot
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at power play 1 and then Troche gets injured right off the bat.
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So the spots wide open for him and he just does absolutely
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nothing with it to the point where now J's out and it's
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trocheck and cool you have the spot instead of laugh.
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So he's just he's cooked. I've 0 interest in having him
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but about JT it's only day-to-day so no reason to panic
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just yet other than the awful season he's been having so far.
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I still think he's a buy low. Like if I hadn't just traded him
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away I would be trying to buy low on him.
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But you gotta, you know, don't overpay either.
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Yeah. I'm going to play Kevin here and
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ask a few names of would you give them for JT?
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I'm going to give you only three, OK?
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Yeah. Would you give and if this is
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you getting JT in return? Just to clarify, and I'll just
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clarify it, this is a bangers league with faceoff wins where
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he has his most value. Let's let's take away the face
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offs. Just for the Just Bangers
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league. Yes.
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Would you give if you have Elias Pettersson for JT Miller?
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Hilarious. Actually, I like that a lot.
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OK, no face off wins. So Miller's getting more shots
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and more hits for sure. Patterson gets more blocks if
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your league counts that. Yeah, he's good, then yeah he
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is. Like I like messing all around
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player and he's been really hot lately and Miller sucked, but I
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feel like with the playoff schedule and the potential, like
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I think and also like if you had Peterson until about two weeks
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ago, you were trying to shoot him into the sun.
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So I don't hate this. I would take Miller over.
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So graphic. Sorry, that's just how I feel
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when I, when I have these guys on my team and I'm like, do
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something, you plug it with a stick you like, are you still
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alive? You know, Yeah.
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No, I I'm with you. I'm gonna go JT there.
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Cutter Gothier. Yeah, JT.
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J OK, yeah. So I guess I gotta aim a tad
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higher than this. We can we can say Tom Wilson,
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but I think you said you'd rather Wilson over.
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Jackson at this point, yeah. You're going Wilson.
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OK, I'm gonna I'm gonna stage at there because I think that I
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can't imagine it's gonna stay this bad.
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And if it doesn't feel like a fourth round pick next year,
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it's just. Crazy.
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It does feel like just all the pieces are there.
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There's no reason for him not to just pop off out of nowhere and
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look as someone just traded him away.
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I'm praying for his demise, but let's say I do think he's going
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to pop off at some point. So.
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So I wouldn't fault you for taking him over overall.
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Yeah, Alright, let's move on. To the next, yes.
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Mikko Rantanen, the moose of the Dallas Stars, has been suspended
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for one game. He put up 39 penalty minutes
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against me last week. The guy had 18 penalty minutes
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on the entire season before that.
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He's not a goon. He puts up 39 films, wins the
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cat single handedly for my opponent.
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I'm over it. Anyways, he nothing he did,
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nothing he did was like actually malicious.
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It was like, you know, responsible, yes, it injured
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players, yes, but alas, it wasn't like intentional, which
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is why this was like an automatic one game suspension
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you get for being ejected twice, I think in two or three games,
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something like that. But they didn't make it any more
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than that in that one game. Tyler Skin is gonna get his
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power play one spot. That game is happening tonight
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actually. And yeah, nothing much to say
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here. It was just, you know, if you
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have Rantanen, you're happy about the pins if you're in a
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Pimms league. But it also sucks to lose him
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for for a game, but at least they have a four-game week.
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So he's gonna get you 3 games this week?
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Yeah, not much more to say. The fantasy implications here
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are like if if you know if this makes.
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Sense for a game. Yeah, pretty much.
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I mean, that's not, that's not happening with ranting.
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And again, if there's any way you can capitalize on this value
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being like, look, he's a goon now.
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Look at what just happened. You know, like, I guess.
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That's an opportunity to what I like is you wait a bit, like
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maybe not too long, but you wait until these goon games kind of
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sink down in this game log. And then people like, I mean, I
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usually just look at season averages, right?
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And you look at his average and you're like, whoa, like he
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averages like 2 Pimms a game. That's sick, you know, in a
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Pimms league. And then if people don't realize
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that it's just too big chunks of like, you know, crazy like
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outliers, then you can add that to his value and it definitely
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it also brings us like positional value or his like
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overall Yahoo rank higher if really counts that.
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So some fun stuff you can do there.
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But yeah, not much else to say about that.
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Jason Zucker returned to the lineup and took back his spot on
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power play 1, bumping off Alex Tuck.
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Jakey grabbed him over me. I got outbid.
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So that was a solid pickup. He's one of those guys who just
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rounds out your roster, right? He's he's like power play one
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like pretty much a staple on that team.
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No matter who comes and goes, as long as he's healthy, he's got
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that power play one. He'll probably get bumped down
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to line 3. Right now he's line 2, but you
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have him that power play exposure and the and the shots
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and hits. Yeah, I, I had an interesting
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thing. So we do free agency budget fab
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some call it in our league everyone calls with that.
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I just. Want to clarify.
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And so we have 100 fab to start the year and then you just
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there's continuous rolling waivers and if your league
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doesn't do that, it's a very common thing in football, but in
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hockey it's more rare. Anyway, all this to say, it's
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really cool. It's a great system and we love
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it. So I had one fab on him and then
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I was like, you know what? No, like he's gonna someones
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gonna bid on him. I put 6 and then I saw Daniela
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Europe's game. Just I was so high like when
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walls they got the shutout on Sunday versus The Jets.
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And I was like, whatever, you know what, I'm just gonna put it
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down. I wouldn't mind if I get you
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off. So I'll just put $1.00 on him.
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And I couldn't believe I got him.
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Like I thought he was going to go for three or four.
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Because really, Zucker has been a reliable fantasy asset for for
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over a year now. And the Sabers are not good.
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But this is a an example, a clear example, and we've seen
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this before of veteran guy, a journeyman in his career who's
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succeeding on a bad team, right? So I still think that if he does
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get traded, because Buffalo is still kind of a disaster area
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that his value is going to go down.
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This is the best team for him to succeed.
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But while he's on the Saber is like he's nearing a double
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double and his power play points are awesome.
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So it's really great to have that exposure.
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And even though it's not a good team, the Sabers do have talent.
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Like you can't score nine goals in a game if you're garbage all
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around you. They'll just be inconsistent and
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all over the place. But he's a small bright spot of
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this offence, so yeah, if he's on your waivers.
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Another small bright spot of this offence because he is a
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small person. Zach Benson returns to action
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and bumped Josh done off power play 1.
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So there's a lot of moving pieces with Buffalo.
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Also, Josh Norris has been skating and he should be back
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within the week. So I'm really curious to see how
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that powerfully one shakes out. To me, the steer locks are
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obviously Thompson and Darlene. That's no question.
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I actually think the next step of lock is Zucker.
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They really like him on that power play.
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Then I'd be shocked if Norris doesn't get a spot because they
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got him to be there one C and then that leaves Benson and done
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as battling it out. From what I'm seeing, it's going
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to be done over Benson, but I think that that's going to be
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easily flippable if they don't start off hot.
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So it'll be an interesting situation to follow, especially
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because Benson Norris and Done and Zucker are all like what,
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under 20% owned something like that.
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So it's definitely, uh, there's, there's value to be had here.
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So keep an eye out and we'll update you guys.
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Absolutely. And what I like in this with
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Benson is that first of all, he was drafted to be a great player
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and he's all of his production, literally all of his points this
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year, 9 points and nine games, they're all assists.
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So that's pretty good. And young players tend to kind
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of not be reliable. Shelton goal guys, he's missed
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some time this year, but his his averages are are skewed because
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you know, he if you look at it, he's still under two shots a
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game. I would expect that to be like
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more like 2.12 point 2. And right now he's at 1.89.
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So if that does have like a decent uptick for the averages
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and he's still averaging near a point per game primarily assists
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like this gives a guy who should be way more than 12% owned.
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Yeah, so. So yeah, Buffalo, when there's a
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team that kinda has nothing to lose and just wanna you wanna
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develop their young players like these guys are gonna produce,
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it's gonna be it's gonna be sporadic, but.
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Yeah, yeah, alright. Staying within division, Elias
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Lindholm of the Boston Bruins returned from injury and bumped
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Matej Blumel off power play 1. Can't believe that I really
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thought Mataji had a lock there. I just, I had to, I had to add
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that I saw you on PowerPoint one for like a hot SEC and then came
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back and I'm like finally an excuse to mention Mitesh.
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Yeah, now he's he's he's not even like, I think he was
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scratched. Yeah, Tage.
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He's literally buried arch deep in their lineup right now.
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Bumped him off P1 and off the team, yeah, but I think he's
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back in the lineup. Ohm, my God, everyone's laughing
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at the Yeah, This is why we we need Kevin here to ohm, my God.
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But yeah, if it wasn't exactly. Ohk OK, cool.
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But yeah, those who? Don't remember what Elias
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Lindholm was doing before he got injured.
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He started off the season crazy hot.
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He was one of our cell highs. But he's consistently solid at
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the back. Cats.
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He'll get you like 1.8 shots, 9 faceoff wins, 1.6 hits, 1.2
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blocks, something like that. So he kind of like has all
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those. Also something interesting about
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his, uh, his averages on the season.
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I think he's averaging like .62 points per game on the season.
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Every single point he has been on the power play.
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Wow, yeah, every single one. It's I saw that.
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I was like, OK, I mean, there's obviously like room for
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aggression there, but also like clearly he's a power play 1
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staple. Currently they have him on line
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2, but it's the line with geeky on it.
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So that's pretty much line 1, but I wouldn't be surprised if
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if we see the reunification of Pasta Linterman geeky as a line
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one, right? I think trying to spread the
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wealth and have have multiple scoring lines, but it just
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doesn't seem to be working. So I wouldn't be present to go
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back to that. So I'll have to be said.
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I wouldn't expect him to be the same level as those first few
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games. But like, his averages are
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pretty, you know pretty much what you'll get.
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Yeah, and the fact that he wasn't so high doesn't mean
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that, you know, he's gonna just fall off the face of the Earth.
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Like this is a guy who's producing his career.
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I still don't think it's going to be nearly what it was to
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start. I mean, even from that pace,
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like before the injury, things went way downhill.
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But 100%? You know, in a non faceoffs
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league I'm just like really, I don't really believe in it too
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much, but in a face off win league he should be rostered if
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it's like 12. 14 specifically if you have face off win hits and
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blocks, there's just not many players who can do all three of
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those and also be on power play one like it's very few.
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Like I'm looking at like, you know, we talked about Elias
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Pettersson, he's one who does that, you know, used to be back
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in the debunk Jenner RIP. But you know, like there's very
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few players who can do that. So there's value.
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Like even if he's putting up, you know, barely any points, he
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gets you like if that powerfully production drops down like .2
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and that's all the points he's getting you, right?
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So .2 power play points like almost two shots.
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Like I said with all the back cats, like someone happy on your
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roster, just don't go paying Kevin's house for it, you know?
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That's it, all right. OK on to another one of our cell
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highs from a previous week. Ryan Nugent Hopkins should be
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back this week and we'll bump Adam Henrique off power play
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one. I'm excited to see what happens
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when news comes back Hyman healthy.
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They can reunite the gang of that original power play 1 unit
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and I'm hoping that they start popping off because I have
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McDavid and dry Seidel in our league.
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Don't ask me how come to the Discord and I'll explain.
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But yeah, so as hot should be, it should be fun.
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I still think if Nuge comes back and he starts popping off that
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he's a cell high like he was your cell hijacking a few weeks
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ago. And I think, I think if you can
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get value for him at any moment, then you take it.
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Yeah, I I'm kind of confused as to why Roslovic isn't still on
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the 1st power play. Yeah, to be honest, because he's
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been performing super, super well.
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Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if that
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does change. Like I think it's like as of
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even as of the last game played at the time of this recording,
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Roslovic was on PB 1, I believe, and perhaps it shifted.
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But anyway, that situation is fluid.
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They should have the five together but they also haven't
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been doing like normal Oilers things this year.
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I mean I think a big problem is their goal tending.
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I dropped Stuart Skinner, good riddance.
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But at the end of the day Roslovic to me is still and you
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said he loses all value when news is back and hymens back.
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I still wouldn't drop if it's in a deep enough league.
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Like I wouldn't preemptively drop.
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That's it. I like to see what happens.
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You know, you don't want to like you know, it's like you don't
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preemptively drop. Look, keep an eye out, but I
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wouldn't be surprised if like week after news comes back,
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you're like, OK, I need to drop him.
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I'm just felt like, yeah, you don't have to rush to drop him.
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It's not like having him on your roster is gonna get you negative
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points or anything. Exactly, and you know, news has
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been decent in his own right. Actually, like as mentioned, he
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was all high and that inherently means the players performing
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well. So what I'll say with this is
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that the Oilers power play has started slow in previous years.
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There are really they're the best power play in the league
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year in and year out pretty much, or at least top three.
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So owning any piece of this, you're going to expect a lot of
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offence and I don't think Rossovich is going to like, you
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know, disrupt that by any means. It's just like how long after
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news returns do they wait until things really turn back up for
20:42
them as like a wagon in the. Lead.
20:44
Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?
20:46
So that's, yeah, it's exciting. The whole team should get
20:48
better. The power play should get
20:49
better. If you own McGraw like Josh
20:51
does. Should we just say the trade or
20:54
what do you think? Yes, I think I already mentioned
20:57
earlier in the in like a previous episode how I got
20:59
McDavid for uh for JT and Thompson and then Jake and I
21:02
made a big trade this week and honestly I'm regretting it
21:05
already. But you know for the back hatch
21:07
like the face off and stuff made sense.
21:09
I gave him Kucherov and Gosta spare and he gave me dry seidel
21:12
and tippet. I know it seems like really bad
21:16
for me but at the back I really need the back cats.
21:18
My team was really solid at points already, so doesn't.
21:20
Seem bad for you? I feel like it seems very fair.
21:23
Like even like just like saying it like as a 2 for two.
21:26
I feel like it's a really good balance.
21:28
Yeah, I guess it's more just like coach immediately pops off
21:30
for six points in two games. So and Edmonton hasn't really
21:33
played since we traded. So like there's I didn't really
21:35
have much of A comparison, but but no, I'm pretty I'm pretty
21:38
excited about it. It's one of those stacks we talk
21:40
about where like I need those guys to do well anyway, so may
21:43
as well double up on it. But yeah, one of those.
21:46
One of those games just played 5 minutes which was.
21:49
Yeah, I got three points. Crazy.
21:52
Wild. OK.
21:53
Speaking of the lightning, Victor Hedman was placed on
21:57
LTIR. Darren Raddysh will have power
21:59
play one until he returns and they're starting to wake up.
22:02
You know, I think Kucherov starting to wake up.
22:05
It's kind of crazy actually that how unreal, like at even
22:08
strength, right? They finally put they put Cooch
22:11
Sorelli Hagel together and Cook and Hagel have been just insane.
22:15
And they're like, you know how amazing these two guys are
22:17
together. Let's separate them on the power
22:18
play. It's so honestly mind boggling.
22:23
So Josh has, I mean, your stack is like as good as it gets mixed
22:28
drive, but like Loki the couch. Enough has been popping off.
22:34
Yeah. I mean, Hagel also had like 2
22:37
back-to-back 3 point games. It's ridiculous.
22:39
So I will say that. No, sorry, 4 point game and then
22:43
a three-point game. Put some respect on his.
22:46
Name and one of them was a shorthanded points.
22:48
So Hagel's a monster, but to me the the big beneficiary here is
22:52
is radish and as much as I would love to see Hagel and power play
22:56
1 and there's no good reason that he's not there.
22:58
It's just like this has gone on for too long that I have 0.
23:03
It's just the sample size is is there and like I'll bring in the
23:06
next point. Brayden Point is out with an
23:07
injury and Nick Paul is taking his spot on power Play 1.
23:10
Like you have both Point and headman out and at various times
23:14
Kucherov was out. You had pretty much every member
23:16
of this power Play 1 unit other than dental has been out at some
23:19
point this year. And Hagel has gotten no more
23:22
than like one shift. You know, like we we saw him go
23:24
on and then immediately they were like, yeah, you know, like,
23:27
yeah. So I think that's just not going
23:28
to happen. Nick Paul's an interesting
23:30
pickup. He didn't do much the first
23:31
game, but on that Barclay, but we've seen him have it before.
23:35
I wouldn't be surprised if one point comes back.
23:37
It's um Bjorkstrand who gets bumped off instead of Paul
23:40
because Paul's been injured all year.
23:41
He just, he just came back. So definitely Paul and Radish 4
23:45
game weeks for Tampa. I mean, one of the games already
23:47
passed, but three more games and it's hard not to like someone
23:50
who's playing P1 with with Kucherov.
23:52
Yeah, And you know, it's interesting here because like
23:56
Hagel's kind of a screaming sell high because this production is
23:59
obviously unsustainable. But when he's back point, I
24:03
wouldn't be surprised if they keep Hagel and coach together.
24:06
And so this is crazy, Yeah. I think that like that line I
24:10
don't see them breaking it up. Honestly I think points been so
24:14
bad this year and I still think he's a below but I think he
24:17
might be aligned to power play 1 instead of line one power play
24:19
when he returns. Absolutely.
24:21
And I mean just just goes more to the point that the Tampa Bay
24:25
Lightning or an absolute wagon this year.
24:27
Yeah, you can lose, essentially lose your point per game like #1
24:31
centre. And they're like, OK, yeah.
24:33
And your number one defenseman? Yeah, seriously.
24:37
So LTIR, does that mean he's missing the season had?
24:40
Been No, no, he's he's eligible to come back as soon as December
24:44
5th. I'm pretty sure so, but the
24:46
coach said he's a couple weeks away so take that as like 2 to 3
24:50
weeks would be my estimate. Yeah.
24:52
Does this make you wanna trade for Headman right now?
24:55
I'm I sent I mean all my offers are getting rejected.
24:58
He just happens to be one of the many teams in our league that
25:00
refuses to make trades. But yeah, I know I'm shooting
25:03
headman offers, especially because he lost tar play 1
25:06
before getting injured. So you can easily like you know,
25:09
I'm sure the headman owners in a lot of leagues are like candy
25:12
wrapped. This guy so high he's not even
25:13
power play one now he's entered for weeks.
25:15
So this is the best time to buy low on him if you can afford the
25:18
the IR stash for the next few weeks.
25:20
I love it. If you can do like something
25:22
crazy like, I mean, I don't know if you can pull this off, you
25:25
can pull off like a gossip spare plus for Hedman, then like Jake,
25:29
you can't because I know in our league the guys not gonna do it.
25:31
But I'm saying to our viewers out there, if anyone could try
25:34
something like that. Yeah, I'm trying to think of
25:36
other defensemen that I would like, love to flip for Hedman
25:38
who are doing hot right now. My worry though is that when
25:43
Hedman comes back like gratis just keeps it all because radish
25:46
is doing so well. But this does happen and it's
25:48
annoying. And look, if the team's winning
25:51
with radish there, even though it has nothing to do with
25:53
radish, it's almost like it's like a good luck charm.
25:56
Yeah, no, I think what it's gonna be is that I don't think
26:01
there's any chance radish just holds it all season.
26:03
I think it's gonna be mostly Headman with some stretches of
26:06
radish and, you know, Headman with A chance of radish.
26:10
But yeah. But I think, I think what I read
26:15
somewhere that like Hedman just he takes on so many minutes that
26:19
I think it's just like for load management purposes, they're
26:22
like, OK, let's let's ease his like a time for a bit and put
26:25
radish on the power play because the power play is so good.
26:27
They don't necessarily need Headman, even though he's
26:29
clearly the best man for the job.
26:30
But I'm still not worried about trading for him.
26:32
I would definitely take him. Hiking.
26:35
Yeah, exactly. Keep it more powerful anyway.
26:38
Yeah, go for it. Speaking of defensemen, who are
26:42
hot names, Roman Yosi and just hot in general returns to the
26:46
lineup and took back his spot on power play 1.
26:51
Interestingly, Nashville decided to consolidate back to their
26:53
normal power play one with his returns.
26:55
They were doing some nonsense while he was gone, having a
26:58
split power play, and now that he's back, they seem to turned
27:01
it back into like what you would expect.
27:02
You've got Yoshi, you've got Forsberg, you've got Marsha, so
27:05
Stamkos and O'Reilly. So nothing surprising there.
27:09
Honestly. I still would not be surprised
27:12
if you'll see misses more time between now and the rest of the
27:15
season. We said this in the offseason.
27:16
I know his injury had nothing to do with his injury last year.
27:19
There's just, I don't know, I just get that feeling and we
27:22
were right so far. I still think that I'm not
27:24
particularly trying to buy him. Me neither.
27:27
It's just that when he does play, he's gonna be good.
27:30
Yeah, like he's been really good.
27:32
Since returning actually still Romanoski, he's still Romania,
27:35
we still love him, but I just doubt the health.
27:37
Yeah. I guess like where we kind of
27:40
went wrong is that we thought that he wouldn't even be
27:42
productive when he does play. Maybe I was, I don't.
27:45
Know if you were always thought I thought he can be he can be as
27:47
productive. I just thought he was gonna be a
27:49
lot of time. Because the whole thing was like
27:50
his injury, like effects, like what was it like a cat, like
27:54
bend down or something or like. Federal something tachycardia
27:58
syndrome. Yeah, it's like, it's like
28:00
something that like just totally does not fit as a.
28:03
Professional. Yeah, it's like, so to me, I
28:07
thought that, OK, that would make it a really rough time for
28:11
him to be in any way, shape or form like what he was.
28:14
But he doesn't seem like a shadow of his old self,
28:16
honestly. Last year .72 points per game.
28:18
This year .6. The sample size is small because
28:21
he's he's hurt. So I'm not into it by any means,
28:27
but because it's gonna just like you need players to be healthy
28:30
and this is something which carries a lot of injury risk.
28:33
But when he does play, I mean, if you're the guy holding him
28:37
and you can't get rid of him, then just make sure you keep an
28:40
eye on it. Because if depending on what
28:43
your platform is for fantasy hockey, sometimes they like
28:46
giving you updates way too close to the game.
28:49
So. If I'm a Yoshi owner, I'm
28:53
waiting for a stretch of health like what's coming up right now
28:56
with his high production like he's been doing since coming
28:59
back. And then I'm trying to sell
29:01
because first of all, there's the health concerns, second of
29:03
all, there's the bad playoff schedule.
29:05
And he still has the name value of being one of the best
29:09
defensemen in the league. So you can definitely get a Hall
29:12
for him when he's on one of his hot streaks and that's what I
29:14
would try and do. If you have Yoshi, are you
29:17
trading him for Rasmus Anderson? No, no.
29:21
I think Anderson's part of our hot topics, so I won't dive into
29:25
it, but I think that's a clear cell high.
29:28
OK, so you'd rather keep Yoshi? How about Justin Falk?
29:31
No, you know, like, OK, so you use the OC for like an actual
29:35
good name in return like Fox, like a job like like a waiver
29:37
wire guy, you know, like. Lost one wigger.
29:41
No, it's different. It's a different architect.
29:43
But like I think, yeah, I think you're aiming too low.
29:45
Like, look, I want, I wanna trade, I wanna sell high on
29:47
Yoshi, but I don't wanna sell low on Yoshi.
29:49
Yeah, I think, I think Weger has just been so, so bad that that's
29:54
the one I'm really, I think I may be rather weaker because,
29:58
you know, he could be better. Than I think he has no chance of
30:01
power play one with what Anderson's been doing.
30:03
And so, you know, pure bangers guys like it's easier to pick
30:06
that up then pick up a guy like you can even higher than that.
30:09
Fair enough, Fair enough. OK, let's go.
30:11
OK, this is probably the biggest news actually in the It's got
30:14
buried because I do the ordering of these pretty weirdly, but
30:18
Connor Hellebuyck got knee surgery and is out four to six
30:22
weeks. Eric Comrie will be the starter
30:23
in his absence. I will say if you're a helbock
30:27
owner, do not panic sell. Four to six weeks in the grand
30:29
scheme of a season is not that much.
30:31
It does suck. And if you're the buck owner, I
30:34
would have snapped up Eric Comrie because that's my
30:36
favorite thing to do when you have a injured really good
30:39
starter is you just grab the backup guy who's filling in for
30:41
him. And then even though he's not as
30:43
good, you still have the starter for that team.
30:45
And the second year guy comes back, you drop him and it's like
30:47
you never left. So if Comrie got grabbed already
30:50
and you're the helbock owner, then you know, look at waivers
30:52
for something else. But don't make any panic moves
30:54
over such a relatively short injury.
30:57
Yeah. Do you do you think that this
31:00
effects like The Jets in any way other than the goalie situation?
31:04
Do you think it's like now that they're they don't have the best
31:06
goalie pretty much in the world net like that?
31:10
They can and I know that's like a controversial topic, but if
31:13
you do like stats like last few years like he's been absolutely
31:16
ridiculous. Sure.
31:17
Yeah, I think he's kind of at least in top three.
31:18
Let's. Just leave it at that percent.
31:20
So we don't upset any. Listeners.
31:23
But at the end of the day, like The Jets are gonna have to score
31:25
to win now. And yeah.
31:28
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like you can try and like
31:31
next level it and be like, oh, they have to score more or like,
31:33
oh like you know, you got a lot of confidence from your goalie
31:35
playing well, so maybe they lose confidence because they don't
31:37
have a goalie back there. But I think that's over thinking
31:40
it at this point. I think just treat it as a
31:42
goalie injury and don't try and think about how it might affect
31:44
the forwards or defensemen. Right now, would you rather
31:48
Dobesh or Camry on your team? I'd rather Dobesh.
31:53
I don't like thinking short term.
31:54
I like, you know, Dobesh has the shot at actually, you know,
31:57
being a long term hold, whereas comedy scenes didn't drop one
31:59
hell about comes back. Alright, so that's another thing
32:02
if you're not a hunter, yeah, if you're not a Illibuck owner and
32:06
you saw this happen. I mean, at this point we're
32:08
saying it a few days after it happened, so comma's already
32:10
been snapped up probably. But like I'm not rushing at him.
32:13
Like if you needed the goalie help for the next like 4 to six
32:15
weeks year 0G team and you're kind of jumping from goalie
32:17
situation to goalie situation, then yeah, go ahead.
32:19
But if you have two solid starters or like 3 or however
32:22
many you like to hold, yeah, you're not missing out on
32:24
anything. If Connor help goes out for the
32:26
season, that's a whole different story.
32:27
Or even for like a longer than this before to six weeks.
32:30
People are overreacting, I think.
32:32
Yeah, comma is not gonna get you anything near what.
32:35
Hell yeah. It's also not like he's sliding
32:36
in and putting in putting up hella buck numbers, right.
32:38
So it's like, yeah, it's not like The Jets are necessarily
32:40
the number one team in the league last year.
32:42
And it's not like that wasn't a big part because of Helbock.
32:45
So so yeah, I wouldn't overreact to that one.
32:48
Alright, next we've got Kirill Marchenko.
32:50
The best krill in the league is a day-to-day.
32:53
He tweaked muscle in practice. Kent Johnson takes the spot on
32:56
power play 1. I don't think this is a long
32:59
term entry. I wouldn't panic or anything
33:00
like that. And I also don't have much
33:02
interest in KJ this year. He just in the past he does 0
33:06
back cat. So it's all about the points and
33:07
the points just haven't been there this year and this is just
33:09
a short term thing. Again, if Marchenko was out for
33:11
longer then maybe it's not even like Columbus is that great of a
33:14
team. So not much to say on this one,
33:16
but thought it was worth mentioning.
33:18
Yeah, the whole team is just gonna Simply put out much less
33:22
offence. And I'm not interested in
33:24
Johnson at all. And with you there has been
33:26
suspicious how disappointing it's been.
33:28
Yeah. So yeah.
33:29
Yeah. Crazy.
33:31
It's crazy. And lastly, we've got Pee Odor.
33:35
Kochetkov is out with an injury. Freddie Anderson and Brandon
33:39
Bussey are going to split the net until he returns.
33:42
This whole 3 goalie situation is just a nightmare.
33:45
Keshav leaving, you know it's still a split and then he comes
33:47
back. It's still going to be 3
33:48
goalies. I think they're just proving
33:50
This is why they have three goals is because they're two
33:52
starters are the most injury prone guys, like ever.
33:54
So yeah, it makes sense. You have a third guy who's like
33:57
slightly less good but can stay healthy so you don't have to
34:00
scramble every time one of them has a recurring injury.
34:02
So personally, I'm really happy I avoided all these guys this
34:05
year and Pacheco has been playing well when he's here.
34:09
But it's just, I feel like this isn't, this is going to be an on
34:12
and off thing all season, I feel like.
34:14
Yeah, I'm with you there. And it's funny because I M like
34:20
this, this whole team, like the Carolina Hurricanes are just an
34:23
absolute disaster area for fantasy hockey.
34:26
Yeah, like year in and year out everywhere.
34:30
Like even their best defenseman, who's one of the best defensive
34:33
defensemen in the league, like, isn't good for fantasy.
34:35
Jacob Slavens, like, not good for fantasy, Right.
34:38
So it's just everything about it is just like such a stay away
34:43
zone. Except I have four of them on my
34:45
team now because they're first of all, like the guys have been
34:50
decent and like they're they score the third best goals for
34:54
team in the NHL and the worst power play.
34:56
It's like it's just everything about it.
34:58
It's just anti fantasy hockey. Rod hates fantasy hockey.
35:03
He's like, how can I win games while also frustrating every
35:06
fantasy manager who has any players on my team and he does a
35:10
great job. The best job and what I will say
35:14
is that that Kochetkov to me is is I'd much rather have and then
35:20
Anderson still. Oh, for sure.
35:22
I know that because he's better. He's been really good when
35:25
healthy as you mentioned, but also I Anderson gets hurt every
35:30
year except for this year apparently so.
35:32
No, I mean Anderson, you know Anderson gets hurt every year,
35:35
but so does Chekov. That's the thing.
35:36
I feel like it gets overshadowed by how injury prone Anderson is.
35:39
But Geckos also been super injury prone.
35:41
So maybe the move has picked up Brandon Bussey and just wait for
35:43
the other two guys to just be out season and then you have
35:46
Carolina starter. Literally though, literally.
35:49
It's just headaches all over though and.
35:51
Yeah. Yeah, I don't even know.
35:53
Like you want Aho special called I guess has turned things
35:56
around. Like I'm happy with ghosts.
35:59
The two guys that I'm like Jarvis especially happy to have
36:01
are like Idaho and Jarvis. Yeah, Ghost is a solid for
36:04
points, but like he gets no back cats and then yeah, switch is on
36:09
a hot streak. But again, I have zero trust in
36:11
RAW to not just demote him at any moment like line.
36:13
Three, I hear you. OK, so now we have a super duper
36:20
fun, very spicy segment coming up.
36:25
Drum roll please. OK, cool, because the drum roll
36:32
effect didn't work here. This is close.
36:38
Nice. Kind of not really.
36:40
Anyways, yeah, Kevin's famous Would you rather section where
36:45
we list off two players and we discussed who would you rather
36:49
have on your team for the rest of the season.
36:53
The rest of your very curious I have not looked yet.
36:56
Get your get your compare tool. Out and getting my my Yahoo app
37:00
out. Yahoo app out.
37:02
So yeah, I'm curious to see what he drew up this week.
37:08
And I'm, I also, I wish we we knew what his take was on it to
37:15
have a tiebreaker. I can usually give his take, I
37:17
feel like, or often in the same spot.
37:20
And so even when I disagree with him, I feel like I know what
37:23
he's going to say. OK, OK.
37:25
Sounds good. So coming in for the left wing
37:29
position we have of the Nashville Predators, Filip
37:32
Forsberg versus the New Jersey Devils Esper Brat.
37:37
This is such a classic. Classic Kevin.
37:39
Thing but he's. Just trying to mind game Jakey
37:41
into trading him a forsberg for Brat but.
37:45
AF and and I will say that to me, it's still Forsberg here.
37:53
I and I understand where he's coming from, but Forsberg just
37:58
has the Bangor cap potential that is way beyond what Brad can
38:01
do. And I don't think the point
38:03
discrepancy is going to be like, is it worst case?
38:05
Worst case, it's gonna be what, .1?
38:09
Like last season, the discrepancy was .16.
38:13
I could see it being like .2. Like I see like Brad ending at
38:16
1.1 and 4 Spring ending at like .9.
38:19
Fair, fair. Enough, but like for what you're
38:21
getting and then power play points is also in Bradt favor.
38:24
That can be a big one actually. Like I see bracketing like .35
38:27
and four, we're getting like .15.
38:28
So let's say that extra .2 that Brad's getting is that power
38:31
play production. But then you go to like the
38:33
shots and hits and Forsberg is gonna get you an extra shot and
38:36
an extra like 1.2 hits. So it's close for sure.
38:40
It's different archetype of player.
38:42
I think that and also Brad has the edge of having a better
38:45
playoff schedule. I still I still think I'm going
38:47
with Forsberg, but I think that's it depends what your team
38:50
needs. I think it's more rare to find a
38:52
player with Forsberg's archetype who can get you the points in
38:55
power play points as long as well as elite shots and hits.
38:59
But Brett is elite at what he does and GBP it NHL so.
39:05
Yeah, I'm gonna go. Yeah, Nashville.
39:09
Nashville's power play is worse this year than last year.
39:12
And I will say that if you look at the .16 points discrepancy
39:15
that comes with Forsberg, haven't had a brutal start last
39:18
year, Yeah, like it was way worse than it is this year.
39:21
Like this year's not bad. Last year was an absolute
39:24
catastrophe. And then he became the hottest
39:25
player in the NHL. Owning him over that stretch was
39:30
wonderful. It was he.
39:32
Was so kept you coming back right because I was like I was
39:35
surprised you drafted him again this year after how brutal his
39:37
start was last year. But then I'm like, oh, but most
39:39
fresh in his mind was that second-half where he was
39:41
absolutely unreal. So so it makes sense, but.
39:44
Yeah, no. So I picked him in the second
39:46
round. I mean, it probably going back
39:48
in hindsight, I could have done things differently.
39:50
Like it's not necessarily that I would do it again, but I still
39:52
think he's like a mid to late second round pick.
39:55
Yeah, so. Right now, he's not gonna keep.
39:58
Right now, he's averaging .73 points per game on the season.
40:01
1.14 power play points. Remember also that Yoshi has
40:04
been out like in the as I was saying that you should be like
40:06
in and out of the line of best of the year.
40:07
But fact is healthy now and you see was out for awhile and they
40:10
were doing a whole mess of power play stuff.
40:11
The coach, I don't know, he had no idea what to do without you
40:13
see there they were splitting up the power play and all that.
40:16
So there's a very clear indicator as to why that should
40:19
turn around and he did. He literally did this last year.
40:21
We started off terribly and then turned it around.
40:23
So for me, my main, my main concern is actually the playoff
40:26
schedule. But even that is not it's not
40:28
the end of the world. So I'm still going to give the
40:31
edge to forest. I think if you have brat, you
40:32
can get force work plus and a lot of leaks and I think that's
40:35
a. Really.
40:36
Really. I think, I think Brad has more
40:38
perceived value right now. Yeah, I think so.
40:40
Wow, OK, yeah, to me, I guess. Look, I I have him on my team
40:46
and I know what he can do. So if you can do that, if you're
40:49
the brat owner, I would send it for Forsberg.
40:52
And what would the plus be like Perfetti?
40:55
Yeah, something like that, like a guy who's like on power play
40:57
like has a lock on power play one, but hasn't necessarily been
40:59
doing that much with it just yeah, but like you're not
41:01
worried about the deployment. Like, yeah, I like that a lot.
41:03
Would be elated with that. I'd be super happy.
41:06
So Kevin chooses Brat Forsberg 2 to one.
41:09
Yeah, exactly. OK, next we have the Vegas
41:13
Golden Knights. Mitch Marner versus the Buffalo
41:17
Sabres. Tage Thompson.
41:19
Major stuff. Super spicy.
41:22
So much alliteration. Wow.
41:25
Yeah, these are both alliteration kings of their
41:28
respective teams. Yes, and honestly, look, I don't
41:33
want to be too Bilo sell high and fall into, you know how
41:36
players have been doing this year, but I'm going with sage
41:39
and I don't know about you, but for me, Marner is such a
41:42
one-dimensional player. I mean this is similar to the
41:44
last one, right where, but I feel like it's an even more
41:47
extreme because at least Brad still like shoots and hits.
41:48
You know, it's just that force brings a lot more elite at it
41:51
for here. Tage is like the best one of the
41:53
best shooters in the league and he's hitting this year and then
41:56
Martin does literal zeros at Backus.
41:58
So he's his whole thing is that he's supposed to be a lead at
42:02
points and so far hasn't been. And there's also like big, you
42:06
know, factors, right? He changed teams.
42:07
He's not on a line with Michael because they decide to split
42:09
them up. He'll he'll move back and forth
42:12
anyways. I think that there's brighter
42:13
days ahead for Mariner, but I think Tage is stealing is just
42:15
so much higher or floor. I don't know the way you would
42:18
look at it, but he's got the shots and hits there.
42:20
And then he's also gonna like, he's not gonna get as many
42:22
points as Martin, but I think it's gonna be a lot closer than
42:24
people thought going into this season.
42:27
I would say that this one to me, OK, so I think that I think that
42:36
Marner is going to turn things around.
42:38
And while I don't believe that the Vegas Golden Knights are
42:44
gonna be like like that, he's gonna be this inconsistent, like
42:47
he's gonna get the points. But to me, like the 1.26, the
42:50
.95 points per game last year for both of them, that's like
42:53
gonna be way more narrow. And Mitch Marner needs to have
42:59
about like .2 more points per game.
43:01
Last year was closer to .3 and I don't think that's gonna happen.
43:05
So to me, I'm gonna go tage here as well, but but I I I do think
43:15
Marner is like kind of a buy low.
43:17
No, I I fully agree. I mean also keep in mind if he
43:20
ever comes in back, Mark stone was killing it when he was
43:24
healthy and making that entire the entire power play unit was
43:26
just absurd. So that's something to keep an
43:29
eye out on for sure. There's been no news about him.
43:31
He I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back, you know, in a few
43:34
weeks and then immediately gets injured again and is out for the
43:36
season. This guy made a glass but so I
43:39
wouldn't base all your hopes on him.
43:41
But the fact is when he does come back, he makes that team so
43:43
much better and Martin will definitely benefit from it.
43:46
So that's something to keep in mind.
43:48
But I just think the points difference isn't going to be big
43:50
enough to justify the backhands difference.
43:53
Yeah, yeah. OK.
43:55
This one I have no idea who Kevin would use.
43:58
I feel like he's more of a tage guy, but uh, I think he also
44:01
definitely believes in Martinez Abilo so I'm not sure I'm gonna
44:04
go teach. For him, alright, that's three.
44:07
For Tage, yeah, the defenseman. Oh, OK, this is big.
44:14
This is big. Both on the same team.
44:17
No. I feel like I know what this is.
44:19
Can I guess? I haven't looked yet.
44:21
Is it going to be weaker versus Anderson?
44:23
Yes, wow. Kenzie Weiger versus Rasmus
44:27
Andersson. You, you guys really finish each
44:30
other sandwiches on that one. Yeah, that is crazy.
44:33
Wow, that's, that's extremely spicy.
44:38
OK, this one to me, I, I'm, I'm like actively trying to buy
44:44
Wigger from the owner and I and I don't even think I'm like, I'm
44:48
trying to be super fair knowing that he's underperforming.
44:51
But my objective analysis here is that Wigger is going to be
44:58
better than he's been. He's had .17 points on the
45:02
season. That's going to be more like
45:03
.35. And with the back hats, it's
45:06
nice. It's nice.
45:08
It's unfortunately not, you know, fourth or fifth round pick
45:11
like some of you may have made in your in your leagues, because
45:13
last year he was a monster. Yeah.
45:15
But what I'm thinking here, that's kind of interesting is
45:18
that before the season, Backland had that quote about Rasmus
45:21
Anderson getting traded. Like that's the team captain
45:25
saying that, you know what I mean?
45:27
And they're bad. And I feel like he's trying
45:29
super hard because he wants to like be like, hey, guys, pick
45:33
me, You know what I mean? Like, so if he leaves and then
45:36
weigher gets a power play one, what's gonna happen is that I
45:39
don't think we're Anderson's gonna be a lock on whichever
45:41
team he goes to. He's going to go to a good team
45:43
because that's usually what happens is that good players on
45:45
bad teams go to good teams. Weird comes back.
45:49
And then I'd rather from here to the end of the season.
45:53
McKenzie bigger over Rasmus Anderson, but let's just pretend
45:57
status quo things stay that they are as they are.
46:00
That gap to me is way, way smaller than it is.
46:03
And I'm going to go with Uyghur still because it's the tear that
46:10
Anderson on is on right now. It's crazy.
46:13
It's like not sustainable, whereas what we're doing is like
46:16
there's nowhere to go but up. Yeah.
46:18
So. Yeah, so.
46:20
Yeah, I'm not sure. Like I think Anderson is the
46:23
biggest sell high ever, so let me preface with that.
46:27
But I don't know how much of A Wigger believer I am this year
46:31
because even if Anderson gets traded and weaker gets back on
46:35
power play 1, he wasn't doing anything with it to start the
46:38
year for like a pretty big sample size.
46:40
So I don't really believe in weaker points going up.
46:43
I think you're kind of, I mean, not they're going to stay this
46:46
low, but like I see his ceiling for points like .3 at this
46:49
point. I don't see him going like
46:51
higher than that. And I don't think it's gonna be
46:53
much power play points. So it's really just a pure
46:55
bangers guy and he's a lead at that, no question.
46:57
But then you look at Anderson and like Anderson shoots more
47:00
than weaker does. He gets pretty much the same
47:02
blocks. The only difference is like a
47:04
massive difference in hits obviously.
47:05
And we will get you a few some more Pimms, but even that's not
47:08
that crazy. Anderson gets Pimms.
47:10
So again, as it stands right now, I don't see Anderson losing
47:13
power play 1 to weaker. So I would go with Anderson and
47:16
then I agree that he's inevitably getting traded.
47:18
And I just feel like whoever trades for him, there's a chance
47:21
that he can be there powerfully on defenseman.
47:23
I don't know this that this situation hasn't shaped itself
47:26
fully yet with like what's going on in the NHL.
47:28
You know, like what happens if Tampa, you know, what happens if
47:31
headwinds out for longer than we thought or like they just decide
47:34
Hedman is not the guy we want on power play 1.
47:35
You know, he's going to beat Darren Raddysh.
47:37
You know, like, that's just off the top of my head.
47:39
So I feel like, yeah, I mean, yeah.
47:42
So there's like, I feel like if a team is acquiring Anderson,
47:46
it's either to make him their power play 1 defenseman or like
47:49
just to bolster their depth, just the two options.
47:51
But I just think that Anderson actually has more upside than we
47:55
do right now. And it just kind of sucks
47:57
because I still believe Anderson is such a cell high.
47:59
I don't think he's gonna be doing anywhere near this, but I
48:02
think it's more of how low I am on weaker at this point.
48:04
OK, OK, so the difference has been split it.
48:08
Seems good job, Kevin. You're going, I understand
48:10
you're. Going and I feel like Kevin's
48:12
gonna go weaker. There you go, I Anderson.
48:16
Oh, really? OK, yeah.
48:17
Wow. He got the split, the double
48:19
split. Yeah, that was crazy.
48:22
That's so funny to me. It's it's more just Anderson.
48:27
He's super like big on the lack of sustainability being a
48:32
factor. So I like, it's super obvious to
48:35
me, but yeah, I I that that's really spicy, especially they're
48:40
on the same team. I love it.
48:42
Yeah, this next one's really good too.
48:44
I had to peek because I had to read it.
48:45
Just saying. Yeah, following packages all the
48:49
ways. This is like such a same
48:53
archetype, but there's a twist and I know my answer already.
48:56
Florida Panthers Antonio Lindell versus the Washington Capitals
49:01
Line 1 Centre Dylan Strome. This is an interesting is
49:05
really, really good, but I I think just looking into it a bit
49:13
more, the back story is that Lundell has never had the
49:17
opportunity to thrive with Barkov there.
49:20
Barkov is one of the best pure centres like IRL and also
49:23
amazing for fantasy. He now has this opportunity.
49:26
He's running away with it there. Shots, faceoffs, hits are super
49:30
similar except, sorry, shots of faceoffs are similar except
49:33
Lundell hits now. That's only one per game.
49:36
It's not that crazy. But yeah, but strong zero.
49:39
And at that point, I feel like the points are going to be so
49:42
similar that I crazy to say, but I'm actually gonna go Lindell.
49:45
Wow, that's crazy. Yeah.
49:47
And you like to mention Florida's not been super hot.
49:51
That's the other one thing is that they they've been kind of
49:54
all over the place and as of late they've been good.
49:56
Same with Washington, Like it's the same story.
49:59
It's just that I believe in the path.
50:01
There's more than I believe in the capitals.
50:04
That's fair. I think I'm going with Strom on
50:06
this one. I just think that Strome, his
50:09
line, one power play, one spot is cemented.
50:12
Whereas with Lundell, I just don't know what's going to
50:15
happen when some of their injured guys come back,
50:17
specifically when Ketchup comes back.
50:18
I know he's not a centre, but when I got that comes back, it
50:21
just shuffles up your higher, your entire kind of like top 9
50:24
or top six at least. So I just think that his
50:27
deployments not as secure as Strom.
50:30
And right now even with the line on PowerPoint on deployment,
50:33
Strome's averaging .13 more points per game than him.
50:37
So I'm confident Strum's gonna end the season with more points
50:40
per game. I think power play points right
50:42
now it's almost dead even. I think Trump's gonna end up
50:45
with more shots is negligible difference, face off wins,
50:49
negligible negligible difference and then hits.
50:52
Lindell has the edge, so for that reason I'm going with some.
50:57
OK. It's it's a great, this is a
51:00
great one. Yeah, this is like another
51:02
really, really good one. And I agree with like a lot of
51:05
what you said, by the way, like it makes sense to me.
51:07
The caveat for me is that I think is just going to make him
51:12
better. Like I think the whole team's
51:14
gonna be better when the truck comes back.
51:16
If it was a centre, by the way, there's a whole different.
51:18
Call for sure, yeah. But like who gets shuffled here
51:23
like I think it was? The power play one has been so
51:27
like mixed up all year that I just not sure if I feel like
51:32
Lundell's cemented the spot. Like in my mind, the obvious
51:34
ones, you've got Jones, Reinhart, Kuchuk and, um, that's
51:40
like the point. And Marshawn.
51:41
Exactly. Yeah.
51:42
So you have those four, like locked down and it's a fight
51:44
over that last spot. It's not gonna be happy because
51:46
they hate him. And Bennett has, you know, like
51:50
I feel like Glendale has the edge over Bennett, but like,
51:52
it's just not secure to me. Whereas Stromov 0 doubts in my
51:55
mind that he's lying on power play on for the rest of the
51:57
season. Yeah, I just I think, I think
52:00
it's also like Landau's like lower floor by the way, like I
52:04
do agree there, but like the expected value based on the fact
52:07
that he has sure healing that's. Why?
52:09
Yeah. But also another thing to note
52:11
is if it's like, confirmed that Barkov's not back for playoffs
52:16
this year, I wouldn't be surprised if Florida goes out
52:18
and acquires a centre. Like, what if they get like
52:21
Nazem Kadri just pulled that off the top of my, you know, head
52:24
like a, you know, But like what? Now it's what happened.
52:27
Right, like that just seems the type of thing they would do.
52:29
I mean, it's tough because of his contract, obviously, so
52:31
probably not. But that's just an example,
52:33
right? What if they get a guy to come
52:34
in centre and that guy can easily take Glendale spot on
52:37
power play one. Obviously this is like such a,
52:39
you know, like projection so far into the future and who knows?
52:43
But just the fact that with Strum I don't have those doubts
52:45
is what makes me lean with him. Yeah, yeah, it's definitely
52:49
safer. Much.
52:50
Yeah, I take some stroma safer. But Lundell, you can you can get
52:52
the upside, too. That's spicy.
52:54
I like. It alright, what's the last one?
52:56
We have, unsurprisingly, the goalies.
53:00
OK, here we go. Two fellow countrymen.
53:02
We have Sergei Bobrovsky versus Ilya Sorokin.
53:07
Wow, wow, wow, wow. That's crazy because Sorokin has
53:10
been playing out of his mind. I know because I went up against
53:13
him last week and it was brutal. Yeah, this is uh, so Bob to me
53:21
when he plays should like have better averages I suppose.
53:26
Like, I think you agree with me there.
53:28
Yeah, right now stroking has better ones, but that's pretty
53:31
close. Sorry.
53:33
Right now Sorokin has the edge on that, but it's.
53:35
Close. Is there a better there, a
53:37
better team? But the Islanders are like not
53:40
as bad as they were, not even close.
53:41
They're like they're OK. This.
53:43
Year, so that's kind of fun. I don't expect it to last.
53:47
And Florida is going to get better.
53:49
This the addition of the chalk, like we were saying with
53:51
Lundell, it's kind of sauce. But like, the team's gonna get
53:54
better. And when the teams get better,
53:55
the goal is to get better, so. A bunch of like defensemen
53:58
injuries like Florida. So it's not just like they have
54:01
a lot of guys who when they come back, it should bolster the
54:03
team. Yeah, that being said, I just
54:06
think the talent's gonna win out here and Sorokin's currently
54:09
talent wise also top three in the league.
54:12
He's there with Hella Buck. So I think I'm going to go
54:15
Sorokin because you're going to get the volume to.
54:18
Yeah, I'd say my biggest kind of question for my deciding factor
54:25
is how much are wins valued in your league?
54:27
Because if wins is just another category that's the same value
54:31
as like, you know, goals against, average save
54:32
percentage, saves, all that stuff, then I'd go with Sorokin.
54:36
But if when a lot of leagues like points leagues especially,
54:38
they have wins being worth like 3-4 points, something like that,
54:41
then I'm going with Bob because I think he's going to get a
54:43
decent amount more wins than Sorokin.
54:45
Yeah, you know what? I'm gonna points league and I'm
54:47
actually just gonna check out who's done better so far this
54:51
year, because to me, I I'd be surprised if it was Sorokin even
54:58
with the volume, you know, But actually it is Drumroll, please,
55:05
Which we already realized. It doesn't actually.
55:09
It is Sorokin. Sorokin's been better.
55:11
Yeah, season total, not season average.
55:14
It's still. And I think that that's mainly a
55:16
function of saves being pretty valuable in this league as
55:19
opposed to wins. So it's really down to the wire,
55:21
I guess like the fact that, OK, Kevin killed it today by.
55:25
The way I. Can't believe we don't have him
55:27
as a tie breaker. You're going.
55:29
Crazy. You think I'm going?
55:31
I'm going, Bob. Yeah.
55:32
So we've been split like crazy down the middle today and we
55:36
don't have any tie breaker. This is cruelty.
55:39
Actually, I know honestly OK though the day he decides to
55:43
like kill it the most and split it down the middle is when he's
55:45
not here to like, you know, break the tie breaker.
55:48
It doesn't get much better than this honestly.
55:49
Like this is absolutely amazing. So I have, I have 0 conviction
55:55
in this choice though. Like I'm much more confident in
55:57
Lundell versus Stroman. Even that one, I'm like, it's
56:00
pretty up in the air. Yeah, now these are great ones.
56:03
The fact is, teams don't wanna not do well.
56:07
We talk all about tanking. Theoretically, no.
56:10
Actually, though, like even Chicago this year, nobody
56:14
thought they'd be decent. Like they're doing.
56:16
They're doing their thing out there.
56:18
Like, yeah, kind of fun because we don't really know who's going
56:22
to be, like an absolute horrible team yet.
56:26
Like a lot of teams that are really bad now, Like, Calgary
56:30
was close to the playoffs last year, you know what I mean?
56:32
Chicago was nowhere to be seen, and now they're trying.
56:34
And yeah, the Islanders, like, I still don't think they're very
56:37
good, but Schafer is a great player, it seems.
56:41
Been a resurgence? Yeah, Bo Horvat's been awesome.
56:44
So, you know, it's not impossible.
56:47
Also that, like, the team doesn't end up making the
56:49
playoffs, but they're making a push and Sorokin's gonna play
56:52
all the time and they're gonna have close games even like this
56:56
is the best team. I think, if I remember
56:59
correctly, that Sorokin's ever had in front of him.
57:01
So. Yeah, I feel like just having
57:02
Shafer makes it the best team, so and.
57:04
This is the worst the Panthers have been in front of Bob
57:08
because of the injury. And so yeah, I'm gonna stick
57:11
with Sorokin here, but. Yeah, I agree, Kevin.
57:14
I don't have the strongest conviction on this one either.
57:16
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