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Howard Jones Interview from July 28th, 2026 · The Radio From Hell Show - Best Of

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Speaker 1: Look at Howard Jones. Hi, Howard, how are you here?
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Speaker 1: A look at this? Howard? Well, come on over.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.
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Speaker 1: So we can just stop doing what we're doing here.
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Speaker 2: The news isn't important. The news Howard's here.
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Speaker 3: Just talk about Donald Trump. We don't want to do that.
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Speaker 3: How are things very good?
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Speaker 4: Thank you very much? Yes, so pleased to be back
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Speaker 4: here in Salt Lake City.
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and you are. You have a devoted fan
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Speaker 1: base here.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it is a great owner to have that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean every time I come, I get such
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Speaker 4: a beautiful welcome.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, because I've been coming since nineteen
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Speaker 2: eighty four.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Like quite a lot of people I'm meeting
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Speaker 4: weren't even born then.
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Speaker 3: So people remember you vividly. You played one of our
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Speaker 3: first shows up at Park Quest. Yes, and you were
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Speaker 3: wearing a bright yellow suit. Yes, and it was people
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Speaker 3: just have never forgotten that.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I have such great memories of that.
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Speaker 4: Like the tree people that I called them, the people
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Speaker 4: who are like up right right high in the in
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Speaker 4: the in the hills. I guess they're right up in
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Speaker 4: the trees. So I've called them that and they still
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Speaker 4: come to.
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Speaker 3: It's really kind you have this devoted fanbase here and
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Speaker 3: it's I think it's just remarking. Are there other places
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Speaker 3: in the world that have that kind of concentration of
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Speaker 3: fans for you?
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Speaker 4: You know, it's no, it's like it's quiet. I mean,
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Speaker 4: every all the other British bands and even American bands
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Speaker 4: kind of you can tell they're a little bit envious
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Speaker 4: of my following here and because nobody else can do
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Speaker 4: sort of gigs. So yeah, so it's yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 4: you know, and it goes right back to the those
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Speaker 4: times and you know, thank you for playing my records
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Speaker 4: on on on the radio, and you know, it just
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Speaker 4: made that connection. It was it was opening up for
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Speaker 4: you rhythmics, wasn't it. That was the first Yeah, And
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Speaker 4: and it was just just so it was very special.
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Speaker 3: So do I remember correctly you kind of got your
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Speaker 3: you got flung into popularity or you were were you
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Speaker 3: in the European Song Contest?
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Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no no. It was all a
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Speaker 4: completely like grassroots thing with me playing like you know,
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Speaker 4: literally building it from no fans to you know, playing
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Speaker 4: tiny clubs and pubs. And then we used to get
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Speaker 4: we used to hire coaches, you know, to bring people
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Speaker 4: to gigs when I played outside of my hometown which
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Speaker 4: was high Wickham and in the end we had like
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Speaker 4: six coaches of people would come me up to London
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Speaker 4: to the Marquee Club and things like that. So, you know,
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Speaker 4: because in those days you just had to bring your
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Speaker 4: own crowd because you know that you can't expect to
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Speaker 4: go anywhere and anybody turn up.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So and that's how we that's how we built it.
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Speaker 1: You still live in Maidenhead, Yeah, Maidenhead.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think we were at your place twice in our
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Speaker 3: in our place having lunch with you and Jan and
3:21
Speaker 3: is your is your son still acting?
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Speaker 4: He's now working sort of on on the other side. Yes,
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Speaker 4: that's right, working on the other side of the of it.
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Speaker 4: He's he's like showrunner for some things that they're doing
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Speaker 4: for Apple TV, so he's there in New York City.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's And how's this this tour being work with
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Speaker 3: the with the other bands and you just started right.
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Speaker 4: Yes, that's right. I think we're like five shows in there.
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Speaker 4: It's going really well. I mean the idea is is
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Speaker 4: to make it a thing. You know, the things can
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Speaker 4: only get better at all. We're going to do it
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Speaker 4: every year and I get to choose to have my
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Speaker 4: friends come along with me and play. So that's that's
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Speaker 4: the that's the idea, and it's really great. It's a
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Speaker 4: great night of music because everyone's you know, like different,
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Speaker 4: you know, it's different. It's like different genre modern English
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Speaker 4: and English beat and Wang Chung and yeah, and and
4:22
Speaker 4: Richard Blade is sort of doing a bit of education
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Speaker 4: about how great the eighties was.
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Speaker 1: Do you do you? I mean, people come and they
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Speaker 1: want to hear they want to hear the old songs, songs. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I know you have a new song. I think we
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Speaker 1: have it here.
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Speaker 5: We're going to play it coming up.
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Speaker 4: Do you do some new material? Yeah, we're playing the
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Speaker 4: new single. It's the first track we're playing. It's quite.
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Speaker 4: It's it's quite. I didn't intend it, but the song's
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Speaker 4: going to stand up. And sometimes, you know, at the
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Speaker 4: beginning of the show you have to you need.
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Speaker 2: To encourage people to rise.
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Speaker 4: But it's not wasn't the intended meaning of the song,
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Speaker 4: which is about, you know, like everyone's voice is important,
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Speaker 4: and you know, we all have the power to influence
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Speaker 4: our friends, our family and our work mates, and you know,
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Speaker 4: you know, don't hide away. You know, you know, you.
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Speaker 4: You your voice is very important, so speak out.
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Speaker 3: Your you know, your music is all I think. I
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Speaker 3: can't think of a song that's that's not very postive.
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Speaker 3: I have a positive kind of uplifting You don't.
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Speaker 1: You don't have the tendency to brood a lot and
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Speaker 1: be depressive.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's always been my thing.
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Speaker 4: You know. I always loved music that really, you know,
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Speaker 4: encouraged me and made me think. And so that's what
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Speaker 4: I do with my song. That there's more sort of
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Speaker 4: you know, every man philosophy. Really I try to get
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Speaker 4: over and I just want to encourage people or to
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Speaker 4: realize their full potential. You know, we're all amazing human
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Speaker 4: beings and we can bring the you know, let's bring
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Speaker 4: it out because everyone's got something to offer.
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Speaker 5: Well, was there, recall when you when you were getting started,
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Speaker 5: A lot of the music around you was the opposite
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Speaker 5: kind of dark, dark and depressing, and you were the
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Speaker 5: lone voice of you know, positivity, He comes happy.
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Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I remember.
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's not that I'm a stranger to
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Speaker 4: you know, darkness and cynicism. You know, I think, you know,
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Speaker 4: I think that exists in all of us. But it's like,
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Speaker 4: how do you win the battle against that? I mean,
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Speaker 4: I've got no. I mean, I think it's important to
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Speaker 4: have the kind of music you just talked about as well,
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Speaker 4: because people can relate to going through those feelings. It's
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Speaker 4: just my my thing was about being a cheerleader, you know,
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Speaker 4: and raising people's spirits and stuff.
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Speaker 2: That's what. Well, thank you for doing well.
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Speaker 1: Yes, uh, now I'm going to ask you a question.
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Speaker 1: I got this old shirt.
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Speaker 3: Now, I had this picture too, and I think it
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Speaker 3: was taken the same day in the same place. And
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Speaker 3: I have no idea who this person is.
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Speaker 6: Do you.
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Speaker 1: Did she look familiar? I can't. Oh, I can't.
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Speaker 2: No, I don't know that post.
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Speaker 1: I can't figure out who it is.
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Speaker 5: It was some were you doing a series of interviews?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, how one of.
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Speaker 3: Them, and they would I think this is one of
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Speaker 3: the first times we met you. You came to our
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Speaker 3: hotel room in London. They would line us, line us
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Speaker 3: up with a bunch of people.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, thanks for all that support you gave me,
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Speaker 4: because you know.
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Speaker 3: And you were always really reciprocal and great about it too.
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Speaker 1: People.
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Speaker 3: When I tell people that Howard Jones played in the backyard,
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Speaker 3: of a woman's home in Bountiful in the summer.
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Speaker 8: Yes, and they go he did what he came and
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Speaker 8: played in the backyards. And it was wonderful that they
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Speaker 8: had a barbecue, didn't They had the chuck Wagon breakfast
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Speaker 8: we called it.
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Speaker 5: Even even more hard to believe is the fact that
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Speaker 5: he invited two strangers to his house and picked us
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Speaker 5: up at the train station.
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Speaker 1: It was that lovely. Are you still live in the
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Speaker 1: same same place?
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Speaker 4: No, No, We we moved down to the southwest of
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Speaker 4: the UK and so we lived between Exeter and Bristol.
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Speaker 1: I love that house.
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Speaker 2: It was cool, that studio there and everything.
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Speaker 4: But one of our one of our kids, it was
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Speaker 4: spectacularly dyslexic. So we needed to find the school that
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Speaker 4: could really help them to, you know, learn to.
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Speaker 1: Read and stuff.
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Speaker 4: And that really worked and he got like a university
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Speaker 4: degree and now he's just got like wonderful.
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Speaker 1: It's amazing, isn't it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So it was really really worth us thing, and
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Speaker 4: we love it down there. It's very beautiful and I've
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Speaker 4: got my studios that I can really get on with
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Speaker 4: the work.
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Speaker 9: You know.
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Speaker 3: If you have any questions for Howard Jones, he's in
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Speaker 3: studio live with us right now, So we're going to
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Speaker 3: play his new song called stand Up.
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Speaker 1: Is that right?
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Speaker 2: It is? Yeah, he's in town for the show that's tomorrow,
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Speaker 2: but I think you can still get tickets too. It's
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Speaker 2: at the Mayverick Center.
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Speaker 3: And along with English Beat Wang Chung Modern English, Modern
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Speaker 3: English and and who do you open the show?
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Speaker 1: Or or do you rotate? Or what are you?
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Speaker 7: No?
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Speaker 2: It's I end the evening, the evening.
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Speaker 1: Things can only get better, that's right.
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Speaker 3: And I was just reminding Howard when he was at
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Speaker 3: our studio, right we had barely started this radio station,
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Speaker 3: I think, and we we had a little crappy I
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Speaker 3: almost said the other.
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Speaker 1: Words studio down in Provo.
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Speaker 3: And Howard came to that studio and we talked to
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Speaker 3: him on the air, and then he asked me, do
10:03
Speaker 3: you know where I can get any wheat grass juice?
10:06
Speaker 1: And I said, what A long time ago? It might
10:10
Speaker 1: be a hard thing to get improvos that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
10:14
Speaker 1: I said, well, I don't know what that is. Will
10:17
Speaker 1: you drink it?
10:19
Speaker 2: That's what you're thinking is very It's like a real
10:22
Speaker 2: health boost thing.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever had it. Since it's really disgusting.
10:30
Speaker 1: I've since tried it and it's really disgusting. I don't
10:33
Speaker 1: know why people drink it.
10:35
Speaker 5: But you went from being vegetarian to being full vegan.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and now I'm I'm back to being
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Speaker 2: a vegetarian. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: It's it's a bit difficult on the road to be
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Speaker 4: strictly vegan, but I mean probably ninety percent I am vegan.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: But you know, it's like I always think, you know,
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Speaker 4: do it, you can if you care about those things.
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Speaker 4: It's like it doesn't matter, you know, you know, you're
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Speaker 4: like if you you've done it, you know what you
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Speaker 4: eat each day. It's important to stay healthy.
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Speaker 5: Eight seven seven six two nine six ninety six is
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Speaker 5: the number to call. Dave is on the line.
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Speaker 1: Hi, Hi, Dave. Do you have a question for Howard?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Howard, big fans in all your contents, including winning
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Speaker 9: tickets from these guys.
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Speaker 10: To see you back in New York.
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Speaker 2: Great.
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Speaker 6: Are you still doing work, doing any work with Jane.
11:24
Speaker 1: Wild in for the or Goos?
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Speaker 2: Sorry? All right, okay, now that's a really good no.
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Speaker 8: No.
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Speaker 2: That was a kind of one off thing.
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Speaker 4: We we we went to a castle in France to
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Speaker 4: write songs together and and we wrote a song called
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Speaker 4: what was it called Tomorrow is Now and uh, And
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Speaker 4: you know, I had a really great time because you know,
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Speaker 4: Jane really understood where I was coming from, and she
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Speaker 4: was really most responsible for those lyrics.
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Speaker 2: And it was great. That was a real highlight of
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Speaker 2: the week.
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Speaker 4: You know, you had to write a song every day
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Speaker 4: and then record it in the afternoon, and you know,
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Speaker 4: we were put together in groups of people and that
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Speaker 4: was a that was a wonderful thing.
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Speaker 2: Dave.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Dave. Yeah, there you go.
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Speaker 5: You've been working with quite a few people though. It's
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Speaker 5: take a look here into the list. You you toured
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Speaker 5: with Ringo Star.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was amazing. Yeah, six weeks we did.
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Speaker 2: It was back.
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Speaker 4: It's quite a long time ago now, but you know,
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Speaker 4: if Ringo phones you up says can you join the band.
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Speaker 2: I'll see if I have time, it's it's Ringo again.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, so that was that was great.
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Speaker 4: It was like Rolls Royce touring, you know, private jets,
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Speaker 4: four seasons, police escorts. Yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right.
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Speaker 4: So I thought I'll never be experiencing that.
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Speaker 1: Excuse me. Eight seven seven six two nine six let's
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Speaker 1: go to Jason. Hi, Jason, Hey guys, good morning, Hey Jason.
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Speaker 1: What's your question Howard?
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Speaker 7: Well, not really a question, it's more of just a
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Speaker 7: thank you. You know, Howard was the music of my youth,
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Speaker 7: and I feel like I always, you know, you're always
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Speaker 7: going back to the music when you were young, and
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Speaker 7: it just I can honestly say it changed. It changed
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Speaker 7: my direction. It changed my life, like you guys said,
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Speaker 7: very positive and I just love it. Every time I
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Speaker 7: hear his music, it takes me back to the good
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Speaker 7: old days.
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Speaker 1: It's great.
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Speaker 4: Oh well, thank you very much for saying that. That's
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Speaker 4: really really kind of you. That's what you know, Well,
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Speaker 4: every artist would like to hear that. You know that
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Speaker 4: it made a difference.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, things can only get better whenever that song comes on.
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Speaker 3: And I even, you know, and I'm not the most
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Speaker 3: positive person in the world, but when I hear that song,
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Speaker 3: I just have to stop.
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Speaker 10: We need it today more than ever.
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Speaker 1: Really, it's it's still resonants.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's interesting because as time has
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Speaker 4: gone by, you know, when when I play it in
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Speaker 4: the audience, you can tell, you know, and I say
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Speaker 4: and do you feel scared?
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Speaker 2: And people go.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it does resonate, but I won't stop at Falter.
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Speaker 4: So I'm not going to let it, you know, destroy
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Speaker 4: me or bring me down. I'm gonna just it's going
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Speaker 4: to give me more energy to go forward. You know.
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Speaker 2: Do you do you have thanks for thanks Jason?
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Speaker 1: There's one more coming in here in a second. Do
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Speaker 1: you do you have a favorite song of your own,
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Speaker 1: one that you just are everything you love to do?
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Speaker 4: And you know, I love I love playing No One
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Speaker 4: Is to Blame because because it's I don't know it's
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Speaker 4: it's because it's got it's quite complex. Mostly my songs
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Speaker 4: pretty straightforward, you know what it's saying, whereas No One
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Speaker 4: Is to Blame is a little bit more open to interpretation.
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Speaker 4: And I'm constantly finding new thing ways to you know,
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Speaker 4: interpret it. And I played the show at the Greek
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Speaker 4: Theater just a few days ago, and I played that
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Speaker 4: something like thousands of times, but suddenly something about that
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Speaker 4: night and I got goosebumps again, you know, And I think.
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Speaker 2: That's how nice time still feel that I know, I know.
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Speaker 4: It was, And I think because it's so much to
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Speaker 4: do with what the audiences giving you back and the
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Speaker 4: and the feeling in the room, you know. So, yeah,
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Speaker 4: that's that's my latest favorite. And I think it's interesting that.
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Speaker 3: You know, I used to be an actor and I
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Speaker 3: would so I one one play, I did a hundred
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Speaker 3: performances of it or something like that.
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Speaker 1: And you have to try and find something new or
15:45
Speaker 1: you'll just you'll just go crazy, right, So you can
15:48
Speaker 1: find something new in your songs every once in a while.
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Speaker 10: Hey, guys, how you doing.
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Speaker 1: What's your question or time?
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Speaker 10: I just had a quick question. Well, first of all,
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Speaker 10: been going to Howard Jones since the eighties with my wife,
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Speaker 10: and we just adore you. Thank and in fact, you're
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Speaker 10: kind enough to come out and say hi to us
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Speaker 10: at Redbute a couple of years ago, and that was
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Speaker 10: really nice to see you. But we went and saw
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Speaker 10: Thomas Delby on Sunday, and I was curious if you'd
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Speaker 10: ever thought about touring together.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that will happen at one time.
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Speaker 4: It'd be great now Tom, Tom's a friend, and you know,
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Speaker 4: we we had this great experience in nineteen eighty five
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Speaker 4: at the Grammys where we you know, we did we
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Speaker 4: did a tribute to Two Keyboards with Herbie Hancock and
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Speaker 4: Stevie wonder and me and Tom I remember, yeah, and
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Speaker 4: it was a it was a it was a real
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's the sort of bonding thing that we
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Speaker 4: we'll never forget.
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Speaker 2: I mean.
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Speaker 4: And also, you know, Tom and I were kind of
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Speaker 4: pioneers of of using the new technology the drum machines
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Speaker 4: and the sequences and stuff, so we'll always be bonded
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Speaker 4: through that. So yeah, I would love to have Tom
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Speaker 4: tour with us.
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Speaker 2: Be great. I just found that video.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to post it because I think people do
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Speaker 4: want to see Howard Grammy Grammys.
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, thanks Tony, amazing.
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Speaker 5: All right, let's go to Lisa real quick here, Lisa, Hi, Hi,
17:18
Speaker 5: what ahead?
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Speaker 4: Hi?
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Speaker 1: Lisa.
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Speaker 6: I saw you in concert was in nineteen eighty five city.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you had your.
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Speaker 6: Brother Martin in your band with you, and you had
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Speaker 6: Jeremy a more manager, and Jed Hi was dating all
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Speaker 6: over and I was just wondering if what Martin's doing
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Speaker 6: and if you're still friends with Jed and Jeremy.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well that's that's a great question.
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Speaker 4: And unfortunately there's a nice answer I can give about it,
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Speaker 4: which is Martin obviously, he's my brother and we always we.
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Speaker 2: Always keep in touch.
17:59
Speaker 4: But on in my band now is Martin's Martin's son
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Speaker 4: Phil Phil Jones, and he's the most amazing keyboard player.
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you you know, he just blows me away.
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Speaker 4: So there's my huge connection with with with with that,
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Speaker 4: Jeremy is I speak to him every week.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 4: He lives in on the east coast of in Ithaca,
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Speaker 4: and he'll be going to some of our shows. And
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Speaker 4: Jed still really really good friends with Jed, and Jed
18:31
Speaker 4: comes to the shows and often features in some of
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Speaker 4: our videos when we you know, when we do video
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Speaker 4: gigs and yeah, I mean Jed and Jed's like really busy.
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Speaker 4: He brings African artists over from Africa obviously to give seminars,
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Speaker 4: and Jed organizes that. He's really into that kind of music.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I can I can report that they're all
18:53
Speaker 4: thriving and doing really well.
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Speaker 5: All right, thanks Lisa Quick from Corey, and then we'll
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Speaker 5: have some messages and play Howard's new song.
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Speaker 9: Corey Howard, Hi, Corry, thank you for all the amazing music.
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Speaker 9: We My wife and I finally got to see you
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Speaker 9: a few years ago at Sandy Amphitheater and it was
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Speaker 9: just such a blast, so thank you. And you have
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Speaker 9: so many great songs. One of those songs is no
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Speaker 9: One Is to Blame, Yeah, with Phil Collins. Yeah, and
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Speaker 9: one of our best friend faithful listeners, Stephanie, really hates
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Speaker 9: Phil Collins. Working with Phil.
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Speaker 4: Collins, Well, actually no, he's I mean I worked with
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Speaker 4: him quite a lot because we did some of the
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Speaker 4: Prince's Trust concerts, you know, for charity back in the day,
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Speaker 4: and so I got to know him there and such
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Speaker 4: a warm character, amazing musician. And I actually worked with
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Speaker 4: his son as well. I help produce Simon Collins one
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Speaker 4: of his records and my studio in Maidenhead where you
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Speaker 4: came and yeah, So so I can tell you that
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Speaker 4: he's you know what I mean, you know, if you
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Speaker 4: whether you like his music or not, he's a lovely
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Speaker 4: man and and I've always i'll always have a lot
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Speaker 4: of affection for him. And of course he produced No
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Speaker 4: One Is to Blame and that turned out well.
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Speaker 1: So tell your friend that there's nothing to hate. Sorry,