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NOVAK vs FATHER TIME · Pod Laver Arena

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  Speaker 1: Oh, say can you see by the dawn's early light
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  Speaker 1: What so.
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  Speaker 2: Proudly we hailed at the twilight's.
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  Speaker 3: Last gleaming And the rocket's red.
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  Speaker 1: Glare, the bombs bursting in air.
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  Speaker 2: It's US Open week.
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  Speaker 1: Show me perfect tennis.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no way. Welcome back to Podlaver Arena with me,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Goldstein, and my little buddy, Samuel Taunton. I am
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  Speaker 1: your little buddy.
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  Speaker 2: It is. Little, little, little.
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  Speaker 1: The U.S. Open is in full swing. We are deep
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  Speaker 1: in the first round as of recording. Obviously, the headline news,
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  Speaker 1: Novak Djokovic will talk all things Djokovic and his health troubles.
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  Speaker 1: And then also Alcaraz looking back in form immediately.
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  Speaker 2: We're just back, to be honest, which is exciting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, back in the New York groove. Sabalenka, obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 1: some questions about her coming in, but she had an
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  Speaker 1: easy first round match. All the big names on the
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  Speaker 1: women's side seem to be cruising, but we'll get into
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  Speaker 1: that a little bit later.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, huge news. You were in the Novak documentary. Have
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  Speaker 2: you got a sound effect for that? Slay! This is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Here it is. So I look over approvingly at him laughing,
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  Speaker 1: and it's wow.
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  Speaker 2: And did you have to sign anything?
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  Speaker 1: Here it is again. We get a good look. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: look at that.
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  Speaker 2: There's chemistry.
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  Speaker 1: There's undeniable respect and chemistry between me and nobody. I
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  Speaker 1: think so.
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  Speaker 2: Have a look at that look. I mean, the look
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  Speaker 2: you're giving him just suggests that, like, I think you're thinking,
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  Speaker 2: I love you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, as long as we cut what Andy Lee says before,
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  Speaker 1: I want to say I just told a joke and
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  Speaker 1: Novak is losing it laughing. He is losing it.
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  Speaker 2: To be fair, his eyes have closed and you can
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  Speaker 2: see the mouth is open and he's thinking, what a
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  Speaker 2: great time I'm having.
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  Speaker 1: He's having a great time. And the thing is, I
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  Speaker 1: did not sign a release, so I will be suing
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  Speaker 1: Novak Djokovic.
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  Speaker 2: You should do. I think so.
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  Speaker 1: For putting me in his documentary.
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  Speaker 2: But also- It's the best thing to happen to your career,
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  Speaker 2: but still to him.
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  Speaker 1: And dude, I remember when he had the team in
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  Speaker 1: filming the documentary.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, you have to call it the documentary.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And he just kind of gave a polite little- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He kind of went, uh-huh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: This guy. So did you, can you walk me through,
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  Speaker 2: did you see yourself watching or were you alerted by
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  Speaker 2: text messages from friends being like, oh my God, you're
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  Speaker 2: in the documentary? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The documentary. I got text messages from friends. So yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And how did you feel? Cause it's gotta be like,
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  Speaker 2: it's gotta be like, I mean, you've had a great life,
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  Speaker 2: but top 10 things to happen.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty good. But what they didn't get in this
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  Speaker 1: very interview is he kind of puts me in a
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  Speaker 1: headlock after I get a question, right. Which we have,
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  Speaker 1: You've been to my place. It's framed and the still
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  Speaker 1: picture of it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pride of place
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  Speaker 1: over all my wedding photos.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Over any photos of my family.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, rightly so.
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  Speaker 1: It's Djokovic putting me in a friendly headlock.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. They should have kept it. I guess it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: paint him in the best way. They cut to him
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  Speaker 2: and he's just like giving you a nookie.
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  Speaker 1: But the can I use Amazon Prime as a credit
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  Speaker 1: now on all my TVs?
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  Speaker 2: I don't see why not.
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  Speaker 1: The first time I met him. uh was the previous
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  Speaker 1: year the year before that so like we're on a
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  Speaker 1: first name basis now yeah a few times uh he
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  Speaker 1: was absolutely oh i've heard this story visibly sick.
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  Speaker 2: And didn't you didn't shake his hand or something i.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't shake his hand i'm a germaphobe and he was
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  Speaker 1: like dripping snot and he was like and he went
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  Speaker 1: to shake my hand and i was like and then
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  Speaker 1: i'm like sanitizing even just being near him and then
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  Speaker 1: i just sit next to him and uh yeah and
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  Speaker 1: everyone's giving me a lot of shit saying this is
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  Speaker 1: one of your absolute heroes an icon yeah and you
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  Speaker 1: uh didn't shake his hand because you didn't want the sniffles.
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  Speaker 2: I mean yeah but it is i mean it's a
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  Speaker 2: great conundrum to find yourself in to like meet your
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  Speaker 2: hero or get really ill.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get into the U.S. Open proper, it's been
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  Speaker 1: a little while since we've recorded, and there's a few
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  Speaker 1: things I want to touch on in the Cincinnati Open.
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  Speaker 1: We were maybe midway through the last time we did
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  Speaker 1: a podcast. A few notes. The Medvedev-Nakashima match with Nakashima
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  Speaker 1: winning that. Medvedev was very petulant, was kicking mics over
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  Speaker 1: in the back of the court. He was complaining a lot.
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  Speaker 1: And he was also up a set 5-4-40 love and
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  Speaker 1: still managed to lose to Nakashima. But my favorite part
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  Speaker 1: of the match was Chair Empire Muhammad Layani. When a
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  Speaker 1: baby would not stop crying in the stands, he got
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  Speaker 1: everyone's attention and he looked over to where the baby
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  Speaker 1: was and he said, please give some love to the baby.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Please.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think Aj Barker could learn a thing from him?
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  Speaker 1: Please give some love to the baby.
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  Speaker 2: Give some love to the baby.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. If we can get that as a soundbite
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  Speaker 1: and then please.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, you saying it though? You saying it is pretty.
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  Speaker 1: Please give some love to the baby.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like an old Motown singer.
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  Speaker 3: Please give some love to the baby.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, please give some love to the baby.
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  Speaker 2: All the babies out there.
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  Speaker 1: And it's the most polite way of kind of saying.
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  Speaker 2: It's like saying you've got to get the baby out.
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  Speaker 1: Get out.
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  Speaker 2: The best way to give love to the baby is
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  Speaker 2: outside the stadium.
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  Speaker 1: Please leave with the baby.
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  Speaker 2: Please go to the foyer of the stadium because that
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  Speaker 2: is the best place for love.
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  Speaker 1: To give love to the baby. And then, of course,
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  Speaker 1: Medvedev and Winston Salem had his meltdown where he said
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  Speaker 1: he might quit and play pickleball.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's a common thing that's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Pickleball.
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  Speaker 2: It's an easy way out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then in his post-match, he won his first
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  Speaker 1: round of the U.S. Open. He said, oh, maybe around 37.
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  Speaker 1: I'll think about switching to pickleball or something.
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  Speaker 2: If only someone could give the same advice to Venus Williams.
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  Speaker 1: Or Novak, maybe.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into it. We'll get into it. The other
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  Speaker 1: notable things that happened in Cincinnati, Tommy Paul taking out
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  Speaker 1: Zverev in the round of 16. Fies and Straits over
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  Speaker 1: Diminar in the same round. Sabalenka not finding her form
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  Speaker 1: yet in Cincinnati, where she went out to Sarah Bailick
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  Speaker 1: in straights in the round of 32. She had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of chances along the way, then Bailick got absolutely
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  Speaker 1: stomped by Coco Gauff in the semis. Iga Sivantek showing
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  Speaker 1: the form that she had in Canada. a walkover, well,
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  Speaker 1: against Rebecca in the quarterfinals, and then losing to JPEG
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  Speaker 1: in three tight sets in the semis. So when Iga
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  Speaker 1: Sivantek was playing Jessica Pugula in the semifinals, this one
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  Speaker 1: I recorded because I didn't see it pop up on
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  Speaker 1: any tennis socials anywhere else. I loved what I caught
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  Speaker 1: after Sivantek has an easy sitter to stay in the set,
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  Speaker 1: first set, She just absolutely fucks it up, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Bait that, bait that.
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  Speaker 1: So here it is, like, their ball's floating up. Just
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  Speaker 1: put it away into the court.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that rules.
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  Speaker 1: She just ditches it into the net there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the fist bump!
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  Speaker 1: The fist bump, but then the reactions. Look at the
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  Speaker 1: people behind her. That face is amazing. That lady with
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  Speaker 1: the red hair is fantastic. Her realizing how lucky it
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  Speaker 1: was that Pagoula missed that. This reaction here. Oh, hands
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  Speaker 1: over the eyes. This guy, hands on the head.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then I love this expression from... him in the
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  Speaker 1: player's box.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah yeah oh you take it when you
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  Speaker 2: can get it man oh wait that last one before
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  Speaker 2: the clip went out the um the the blowing out
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  Speaker 2: the the lips going oh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah it is but that's what makes the
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  Speaker 4: game great like she must have hit I mean, it's
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  Speaker 4: crazy to think how many times she could do that
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  Speaker 4: with her eyes closed with two broken legs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And just for whatever reason, it just didn't happen.
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  Speaker 1: On a windy day, maybe you could be like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: the wind started to pull it back. No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: It's like so automatic with like the amount of muscle
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  Speaker 2: memory she would have. It's just part of it. And
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  Speaker 2: the fist pump to it is ridiculous. Red hot.
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  Speaker 1: In the finals at Cincinnati, Fies over TFO. It was
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  Speaker 1: a real topsy-turvy affair with Fies getting it done in three.
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  Speaker 1: Big Foe going out. But then now in the U.S. Open,
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  Speaker 1: Fies went out in the first round. And TFO got
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  Speaker 1: through a weird opening round match to Martin Dahm. But
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  Speaker 1: the final on the women's side, Coco Gauff taking out compatriots.
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  Speaker 1: Jessica Pagula in the final.
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  Speaker 2: Huge for Coco.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the last time Coco won Cincinnati was in
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  Speaker 1: 2023 where she went on to win the US Open.
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  Speaker 2: Is it a sign?
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. We picked our ladies for just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for a gentleman.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a Saturday night type situation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We picked our ladies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We just picked our ladies. Yeah, Errol sent us a
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  Speaker 2: website and we just kind of Just had a look through.
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  Speaker 1: We picked our ladies for the tournament. I took Siobhan
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  Speaker 1: Tech for the U.S. Open, I should say. Yes, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: You took... You took... I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Even saying ladies makes it sound crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Picked our women?
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  Speaker 2: I think picked our women maybe is better.
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  Speaker 1: You took Svitolina, and E-Roll took Marta Kostik.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So the rule is you just can't take the one, two,
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  Speaker 1: or three seeds so that's no Sabalenka or Bacana or
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  Speaker 1: Jess Pagula no one took Coco.
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  Speaker 2: We left Coco Coco was still yeah she's on the
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  Speaker 2: table still I was I was in the gym if
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  Speaker 2: I'm being honest when the when the messages came through
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  Speaker 2: and I misread properly in hindsight I would have taken
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  Speaker 2: Coco but I don't regret I believe in myself in
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  Speaker 2: my gut what were you doing in the gym Deadlifts
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  Speaker 2: at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Picking other ladies. The 250 event in Winston-Salem the week
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  Speaker 1: before the U.S. Open kicked off. Ignacio Booz over Arthur
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  Speaker 1: Ferry in straights. And at the WTA 500 in Mexico,
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  Speaker 1: Dionne Perry over Elise Martins, her first title. So let's
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  Speaker 1: get into the U.S. Open. Hey.
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  Speaker 2: Is that new, that one?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just hit a button. So the
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  Speaker 1: US Open kicked off with obviously qualifying week, but then
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  Speaker 1: they had a bunch of exhibition events. I don't know
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: if you saw Andy Roddick play Roger Federer.
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  Speaker 2: Roddick is our rival in the podcasting space.
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  Speaker 1: Fed took out Roddick 6-3. And I mean, it was
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  Speaker 1: great seeing these guys play again. It just kind of
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  Speaker 1: looked like they were playing in slow motion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's kind of like, I do like the
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  Speaker 2: exhibition energy of these fallen greats. Not fallen, I shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: say fallen. I mean, like, you know, retired greats. They
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  Speaker 2: went out on top and it's exciting. You get to
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  Speaker 2: see them and then it's a bit more watchable and
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  Speaker 2: they seem more human, which I think everyone likes.
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  Speaker 1: It's true, but they still have that competitive vibe. dry
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  Speaker 1: they're all psychos and Brodick the bane of his tennis
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  Speaker 1: career was Roger Federer yeah like he would have won
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  Speaker 1: way more slams had it not been and now he's
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  Speaker 1: in New York playing an exhibition ruining his retirement losing
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  Speaker 1: a set 6-3.
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  Speaker 2: But Fed can't host a podcast and he's not in
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  Speaker 2: movies about pickleball True. He's just a billionaire.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, that was one of the exhibitions. The other
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  Speaker 1: was the Mixed Doubles, which we were talking about a
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  Speaker 1: couple weeks ago because some of the pairings were just crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Are you calling the Mixed Doubles exhibition? Well, it's... Do
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? It's a valid part of
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  Speaker 2: the tournament, but now it is an exhibition side of
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  Speaker 2: the tournament.
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  Speaker 1: Seemingly it's there for star driven publicity and it sidelines
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  Speaker 1: actual mixed doubles specialists, right? By the, some of these pairings,
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  Speaker 1: you know, uh, Serena and, and Alcaraz and, uh, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and Djokovic who went out immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Um, so with this mixed doubles, the thing I kind
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  Speaker 2: of don't understand and I kind of, I did definitely
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  Speaker 2: generate interest, but like how, how has this happened in
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  Speaker 2: the U S open that, that we've ended up with
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  Speaker 2: these superstar pairings did the us open put them together
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  Speaker 2: have they enticed these players to to kind of join forces.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah and they're framing it as innovation to revive a
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  Speaker 1: neglected event but they're giving preference to these superstar pairings
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  Speaker 1: um in lieu of mixed double specialists yes who you
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  Speaker 1: know have been playing these tournaments for years and i
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  Speaker 1: guess it it effectively did revive.
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  Speaker 2: Some interest um people were talking about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah and i mean the fact that it seems to
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  Speaker 1: be their answer to the one point slam we did
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  Speaker 1: here at the australian open uh i mean for me.
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  Speaker 2: The one point slam was more obviously it's compelling yeah
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  Speaker 2: and i think historically will be remembered more.
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  Speaker 1: And craig tyler please come back yeah we miss you
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  Speaker 1: we miss you craig so yeah so there is some
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  Speaker 1: controversy surrounding it but then uh i mean i'm happy
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  Speaker 1: the mooch and mensik won a million bucks before the
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  Speaker 1: tournament began proper.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about so also reducing to four
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  Speaker 2: sets as well in the meet so it's very much
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  Speaker 2: like changing the goalposts of of a like of a
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  Speaker 2: game do you know what i mean like it is
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  Speaker 2: a huge thing for the u.s open.
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  Speaker 1: To a whole subset of matches like yeah it's.
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  Speaker 2: Like messing with it's not like messing with singles obviously
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  Speaker 2: but like it is still somewhat like this is an
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  Speaker 2: important part of people's tennis lives and I imagine there
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  Speaker 2: are a few people out there, I don't know where
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  Speaker 2: they are, that when they watch tennis... They want to
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  Speaker 2: watch mixed doubles and that's their favorite part of tennis.
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  Speaker 2: And I wonder how they feel about having had a
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  Speaker 2: knife get slashed to it to turn it into a
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  Speaker 2: version of 2020 cricket.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I do understand US Open's thinking.
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  Speaker 2: I completely understand. And it did bring a lot of
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  Speaker 2: interest to it. And I was kind of like, how
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  Speaker 2: cool is that to see, you know, these top players
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  Speaker 2: playing together or these legends playing together.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's all fun and games until someone
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  Speaker 1: rolls an ankle, you know, playing a mini set. on
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  Speaker 1: the week before the US Open.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and then it won't be happening.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't happen, and the Mooch and Mensik looked sick,
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  Speaker 1: and they're matching, and they're the only ones wearing matching outfits.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they took it seriously.
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  Speaker 1: They took it seriously.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a team spirit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So that was all the kind of lead-up stuff.
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  Speaker 1: There was doubles with Augustine Roddick losing to Federer and McEnroe, 7-5.
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  Speaker 1: They had a fun little set there. Federer hit this
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  Speaker 1: around-the-back volley that was absolutely insane that he still has this.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think Federer could still compete? Or would he
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  Speaker 2: be just out in the first round every week?
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  Speaker 1: I'd think out there.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they asked him. They go, look, Venus is
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  Speaker 1: still out there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but not a great comparison. I mean, Venus is
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  Speaker 2: out there, but.
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  Speaker 1: Is she there? For all intents and purposes, she is
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  Speaker 1: physically out there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's filling out the entry form. She's doing that much.
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  Speaker 1: But they asked him and he was like, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, I don't have any time anyways. I'm
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  Speaker 1: running this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a billionaire.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a billionaire. I got a shoe empire.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a shoe guy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's, you know, 20,000 bucks to shake my hand.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think he still cries much?
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  Speaker 1: When's the last time you cried?
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  Speaker 2: Well, in my work, it's the same. I love my
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  Speaker 2: work as much as he probably loves his work. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I cry every time after I do this podcast, I cry.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: And I'm so thankful I get to hang out with
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: you guys.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, so it's a joy cry.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: It's a joy. He mainly joy cries. Sabs will do
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: like proper sad cry when she loses. And it can
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: be kind of quite hard to watch. Obviously a joy
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: cry is much better to watch from an athlete. But
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: a sad cry when you lose, that's hard to take.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of sad cries, Novak Djokovic. He realized he
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: was completely cooked in that fifth set against Mario Navone.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: And people... Getting behind Novak is kind of a rare
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: thing throughout his career. And so the New York crowd
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: chanting for him and getting behind him, the emotions eventually
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: welled up when he was down a break in that
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: fifth set.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: It actually makes me sad as well.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Man, this was a tough match to watch. This was... Suffering.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: This was a challenge.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Physically, he was suffering. Mentally, yeah, look at that. That's
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: the vomit.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: The ectoplasm. It's a hell of a vomit. Yeah. And
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: he was doing this in the- Thank.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: God they put the replay on that as well. And
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: the slow-mo, sorry?
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Slow-mo.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Why did they have to slow-mo the vomit? No one's like, oh,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: we didn't see the vomit come out properly.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: The V-A-R. The V stands for vomit. Vomit. Yeah. Yes, again.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: It's too much. So gross. And it's like, obviously, there's
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: something physically going on with him.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's because he's nearing.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: No, he's 39. Are you saying it's age? It's just age?
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Well, no, but people age in different ways, right? And
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: he's arguably played more tennis than anyone because he's played
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: more matches. Yes, he probably hasn't played as... I wouldn't
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: be able to get his full schedule up for the
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: last 20 years in my head, but... He's played a
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: lot of tennis over his life.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: People's bodies break down in a different way.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: So you think this is 20 years of full schedule
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: tennis causing this physical condition right now?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Potentially, yeah. Yeah. You don't think so?
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know. He's just been such a freak with
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: his conditioning and everything in the past that it just, 39,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, to me now, it seems like, you know,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: youthful heyday. Yeah.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: He's in his prime.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I also think it could be a mental thing because
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I think of all the, you know, this guy is
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: like a Jordan-esque, you know, there's probably only a handful
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: of like crazy competitors in the history of any kind
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: of sports like Djokovic. And I think mentally there would
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: be a disconnect as he's starting to find his body
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: not doing the same thing. And he's probably covered it
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: for the last three or four years with like crazy,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: like tennis IQ almost, being able to change game plans
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: and adapt his His game to kind of cover those areas.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: And then finally, it's getting to a point where he can't.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I know he made the final in the Australian Open.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Finals in the Australian Open, round three at the French,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: and then semifinals at Wimbledon. So he's clearly not done.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: These are best of five matches in the summer league.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I know, but my point is the decline is huge.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: You can't deny that the decline's not there. Like, it's obvious.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: But this seems to me like something more than just
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: being 39 years old and a lifetime of tennis. This, like,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: vomiting on court, the inhaler, obviously his back went out
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: late in the match. He's just like, it's... And he
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: said afterwards he despised every moment on court. It's tough
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: to watch.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: But that is like, I know I quoted a lot,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: the Agassi book, He talks about in the final hours
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: of his career, not final hours, but like the back,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: deep in the back nine.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: The twilight.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the twilight. How horrible it was in the sense
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: of not horrible, like they love tennis, but it's like
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: that competitive grind does take its toll. And I think
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: there'd be a mental effect that goes to your body,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: but your body's so programmed, it doesn't know what else
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: to do.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: And you just, it would be, I can imagine it
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: would be, you'd be out there for four hours losing, vomiting.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: You inhalers going for the first time. You're so confused
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: for the first time in your career. The crowd is like,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: we love you. And you're like this. I've never been
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: worse than I am right now.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: But this was four games in to the match. I know.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. that's bad.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: When he started to show that he was ailing and
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: he wasn't feeling right. When he started, he looked like
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the Djokovic of old.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: So what are you suggesting? That he has a serious
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: mental condition that he's not revealing?
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Well, there's something going on more than just being 39
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: years old and then a lifetime of tennis. I know
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: he hates the humidity, and New York is disgustingly humid
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: in late August, early September. I think this is not
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the last we see of him. I don't think he
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: plays any of the events for the rest of 2026.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: We get him back next year.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I think he plays next year. He's talked about playing
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: the next Olympics, which is.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I get the Olympics, which the next Olympics is 2028. LA, right? Yeah.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: But I kind of don't get why.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I could see a case for retiring right now.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Because... I.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Doubt he's got another slam in him. If he does,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: it's going to be crazy. To play or to win?
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: To win. That's what I mean.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: To win. So it's like, he would love playing. The
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Olympics make sense because you want to represent your country.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: It's a team thing. But you've kind of got to,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I guess, keep up your skill level and the amount
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: you're playing to keep doing it. But like, what's out there? Like,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: what is out there for you besides a victory? You
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: see Stans on his victory lap at the moment and
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: that kind of looks like a cool way to do it. But,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: If you're Novak, I'm like, he doesn't, like that doesn't look,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: he can't be doing that. And it can't be that,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: that can't be what he, that can't be how he
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: goes out.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: But look at everything else this year. If you say
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: a final, a round three, a semi-final, and then first round, okay.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: But then this is because of some kind of underlying condition.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying, dude, it's like dog years. You
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: know how like dog years are quicker? When you get
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: to the back end of your career, it's quick. Like
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: it decreases. Like what's the famous one in cricket? Adam
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Gilchrist says he missed a ball and he edged it
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: and he knew immediately he had to retire. He was like, oh,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: that's my instincts. My eyes are gone now. I have
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: to retire. And I don't know if it's the same
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: in tennis, but I think you will see. Like, I mean, yeah,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: he's 39. You're saying 39 like, oh, he's a whippersnapper.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I know people play into their early 40s, but it's like.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm saying this year he's had results that
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: belie this first round loss.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: But also when he got. In the Australian Open, everyone was, like,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: super shocked he got to the final.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it stars a lining thing that Mazzetti withdrawing
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: from the match when he was winning at the AO.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: This one, you know, he would have gone into the U.S. going, well,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Sinner's not playing. You know, he's a guy I can't
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: get through outside of the Australian Open this year. Alcaraz
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: is questionable with his wrist. You know, like, Zverev just
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: seemed to be, like, the biggest... The next one, yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: But then, I don't know, this was, for me, like,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I probably went through it more than November. Because as
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: you saw from the documentary, we're very close.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's so true. I forget that this is why
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you're being so defensive because of your close personal connection.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: But I'm not saying this means retire. I mean, I
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: don't think. It's back.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: This just plays on a loop in your head.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: That is just like electric chemistry between two men at
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the top of their game. Well, or maybe in the
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: twilight of their game.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: This is like a freeze frame where he goes, and
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: that's the moment I knew I was getting sick.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: He hasn't felt right since this. You did it. He
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: actually vomited right after that shot.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Anyway, look, I hope he'll play again, obviously, and hopefully
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: in Australia. But, like, I'm just not– it's like, yeah,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: this is– I think there's more results like this in
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: store potentially. And you're right, it could be the humidity,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: and he's getting older, and that's affecting him more. He
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: did well in Wimbledon, but, you know, grass is quicker.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I think– You could use more of your tennis smarts
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: and experience.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: The British summer, maybe not as brutal.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Not as brutal. It's definitely drier.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: It's just, I guess this will be things, like, we
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be surprised when this kind of happens, I think.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. I understand. Father Time is undefeated and
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: all that. Well, also, I don't know.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: People love to say Father Time is undefeated. It's kind
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: of not. Like, he did make the finals... Like, it
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: is undefeated at the end, but you can beat it
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: a bit. No one ever talks about the wins along
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: the way against Father Time. It's only when Father Time
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: finally wins that everyone goes, well, it's undefeated.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: It is. Well, it's not undefeated.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Of course it is.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Undefeated is a perfect record.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: It is a perfect record.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Well, so every time you play Father Time, right?
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You might win some battles, but he wins the war.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: No, the problem, Father Time's got a great loophole, because
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: if you beat Father Time, then they go, oh, you
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: weren't actually playing Father Time.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: And then when you finally lose, you're like, oh, that
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: was Father Time.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: He's undefeated. But it's like, tell me when Father Time
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: is showing up and I can prepare for Father Time.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: You're only as good as your last match and Father
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Time wins that last match.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm like, it's not fair that I don't
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: see Father Time's name on the sheet. So I know
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: it's Father Time.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: You do know when it's Father Time.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: How do you know?
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: So is that Father Time?
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Well, Algaraz isn't playing Father Time. Yeah, of course. But
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: he will be.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you have a rough idea in
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: scheduling when Father Time, when you might draw Father Time.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: But was that Father Time that Novak played?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Venus, Father Time is owning Venus.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Well, Father Time's been drawing him in the first round
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: for quite.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: A few years. I don't like getting old. So this
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: stat is absolutely crazy. For the first time in 23 years,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the second round of a Grand Slam won't have One
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: of the big three, Fed, Nadal, or Djokovic.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, of course. Yeah, that's crazy.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: So I believe Ben Shelton was born 23 years ago.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: So it's like.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: And what a joyous day.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: What a joyous day.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess we've always talked about the changing
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: of the guard, but that very much really solidifies it now. Yeah.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. A crazy stat.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: It's nuts. So, I mean, yeah. Father time undefeated. But
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: so that match was hard to watch. It was just
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: like painful. I noticed, we'll get to Sabalenka in a bit,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: but when I watch her matches, she's just like going
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: through it and she looks like so just, I mean, grim.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: With... I mean, I'm starting to vibe that. I'm kind
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: of with the people that are saying her social media
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: is getting.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: In the way for tennis.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I'm starting to think I'm like, you need to just
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: become an influencer.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Well, she is sensitive about that fact because in her
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: post-match press conference, after she got through her round one easily,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: a journalist asked her, like, do you feel like you've
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: been a bit distracted lately?
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: She snapped a little bit. What is the question there?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I'm curious with. And he just meant like all the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: US Open pomp and circumstance that surrounds the tournament. Yes,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: of course. But she, I think, takes anything going, hey,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you spent a lot of time on socials.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I think the only way is she has to release
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: her screen time numbers.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: You want to see those screen times?
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I want to see the screen time.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: And tennis time?
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Tennis time versus screen time. I mean, their data's there.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Her team would have tennis time and her little iPhone
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: would have screen time. Put it out there. Put the
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: rumors to bed.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Ha ha ha ha. Uh, the absolute agony of watching
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Djokovic was offset by the unfettered joy of Alcaraz smiling
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: on court, having a great time. He was a bit
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: tentative up the top and like, it was kind of
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: taken him a bit to get through service games, but
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: then a routine win over a tricky player, Roman Saffron.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Straight sets. He looked good. I, you know, like the
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: ring rust, I guess there's probably a little bit there.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: There's always going to be that there, but maybe he did.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've been speculating for ages. About when he's
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: coming back or what the injury is like. Why is
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: he growing his hair like that? Mentally, is he in
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: the right space? And maybe he was just like, what's
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: the point in coming back? Wait, let's just wait. I'll
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: just put, I'll pencil the US Open in. Not even pencil.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I'll use pen. That's when I'm coming back. And I
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: don't really care about the lead up to that. That's
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: my hope because I'd love to see him go deep.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. I mean, he's won the US before
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and then obviously he needs playoff. points after being out
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: since april.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Or you're still seated number two yeah and the okay
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: oh yeah we could talk this is the biggest story
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: in tennis.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: The nipple has been a talking point i'm all for
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: it man hang that nip bro.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Well i think one of the great joys of being
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: a man you know and maybe this is it's unfair
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: but you can have your nipple out almost whenever you
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: want yeah there's very few occasions besides a black tie
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: dinner yeah where a male nipple will cause offense and
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: And in this case, it's being very much celebrated across
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: news sites across the world.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Celebrated? I think tennis stuffiness is like, put that nipple away.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Not according to our producer, Errol, who immediately put it
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: at the top of our little Word document. It's like, Carlos,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: back his nipples out.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, we don't need to see the hair follicles.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: The follicles.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: He shaved the nipple, actually.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: That's Braille for going to win the US Open.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Imagine if there's a message in there. We get someone
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: in to read it.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. An expert. What are you doing? Yeah,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: there we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Can I say, though, if we're going to keep objectifying him,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: hair looks good.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I think he looks great.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I think he looks real good.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, then I realize how much we missed him
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: on the tour, watching him play this match, play his
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: brand of tennis. hit shots you don't see anyone else do,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: be as fast as he is. And I don't know
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: if you remember earlier this year, we were like, oh man,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: is the tournament going to just be boring when it's
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion, when it's Sinner or Alcaraz? But now
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, thank God.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the answer is actually no, because the opposite is
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: far worse. It's kind of a bleak, unknown... Whereas at
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: least there's an excitement level if you have these two
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: horse race and then you have contenders that could take
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: them out. It's much more exciting. And you're right. I
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: think it's the way he plays that obviously has drawn
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: fans worldwide. Like he's so captivating and he does things
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: that kind of people don't do and even more than
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Sinner like there's a bit more I don't want to
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: say star power because that's maybe offensive to Sinner but
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: there's something about Carlos that really draws people to watch
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: him play and it's probably the nipple I think you're
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: right it's probably the nipple staring you in the face
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: it's the nipple but it's so good to have him
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: back oh.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: My god The close-ups of the nip. Yeah, Errol, Errol.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: He's giggling away. He is giggling.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Jesus.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Is that a kit problem? Does Nike need a tighter tank?
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's a problem. Like, what is... Yeah,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: the nipple just came out. He's not wearing... What, do
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: you want the guy to wear a bra?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: It's not a Janet Jackson level wardrobe malfunction.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: The stars are out.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: JT's doing it. No, it's not a... It's just... That's
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: just part of how it is. And it's an... I mean,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: it was coming out all match, but... You know, it's fine.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Enough nipple talk. Yeah.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: What happened to skins for those shirts? That's how men
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: used to roll.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Just going to be interesting to see what happens in
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Alcaraz's next match. Was there soreness in the wrists? Well, yeah,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Kenny Last. Kenny Last. I mean, he looked awesome.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: It's a hectic thing he's wearing as well. I know
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: we focused on the nipple and the hair, but it's like...
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: It looks like that's a bit of work that goes
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: into getting ready for the... Yeah, it's like a full sleeve.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Not a cast, but like some kind of compression thing.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I guess. But he wasn't really holding back in the match.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: He was, you know, hitting the forehand at pace and
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: was serving well the whole match. So we'll see. He
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: comes up against Jamé, I think is how you say
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: his first name, Faria in the next match. So yeah,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: he was a... A spicy player, let's say.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: A spicy player?
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves to talk some smack.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: And then also in his player's box, Travis Scott in
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Alcaraz's player's box.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: That's exciting.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: This is because of a Nike crossover shoe branding deal
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: that's happening. There's an Alcaraz Travis Scott Nike shoe where
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: the swoosh is backwards.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's important stuff. There hasn't been enough...
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I think celebs, yeah. I mean, Shelton had, I think
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Fallon was at Shelton's game. But I haven't seen,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I want to see them all out and about. I
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: guess as we get further into the tournament, you start
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: seeing the big A-listers come out.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's been a few. They'll start rolling out
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: deeper in the tournament.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe this is my interpretation. I don't understand the American
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: media or sports or fame landscape. But I saw a
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: headline and it was like, Lindsey Vonn spotted at the U.S.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Open.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, is Lindsey Vonn that famous?
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: She's pretty big.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Winter Olympics, I'm like, but is she that famous that
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: she would deserve her own headline?
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: She's huge. They love her.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Winter Olympics is big business in the States.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I guess, of course, it is big. Yeah, well, yeah,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: of course.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And other results from round number one. Well, let's
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: talk about it with Drew before even playing a match.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Kasper Ruud out, Cilic out, and sadly for the Aussies,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Kakanakis out. withdrawing with an ankle injury before playing Hodar. So,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he dodged a bullet there. But speaking
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: of Kokonakis and the other Aussies, let's just talk about
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the Aussies who are through to the second round. Taylor
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Preston beating Alicia Parks. Duckworth, great win over Arnaldi, who's
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the 30th seed. at the tournament. Maya Joint over Samsonova.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: She's had an up-and-down year, but she is through to
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the next round.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: My favorite name in tennis, Maya Joint. Maya Joint is
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: sore if.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: She was Italian. She plays your pick, Svitolina, next.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I know, and then Nerv. Is it too late to
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: get back to Coco?
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Well, Svitolina, surely.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Well, no, Maya Joint. You've got to get on the Australian, maybe.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Poppy over Demi. That's Alex Popperin over Grigor Dimitrov in
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: four sets. Kim Beryl is through. Sweeney over Moutet, because
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Moutet withdrew from the match.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Best way to go, in my opinion.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then today, School Kate beat Basavareti. So, I
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: think there's a rain delay as we speak, but we'll
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: look at some results happening right now.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: They're always playing at some point today.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The match that I did not expect to be
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: as interesting as it was. was our boy Terence Atmane.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, the great man.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Went out in five to Munar, but this was not
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: short of drama in any way whatsoever.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: He was kind of like, I would say, losing his mind.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He was kind of.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: He was saying he had... He didn't have cramping. He
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: was saying he was in pain. Yeah. I mean, a
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: common problem that we see with players. But really getting
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: quite aggressive about it and saying he knows the difference
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: and kind of... I don't know.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: He looked.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: You were talking about Novak looking in distress. I think,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: as we know, he's a complex guy and there's a
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: lot going on in his head. He's very intelligent. But
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, he was kind of maybe trapped
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: in his brain.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: For a little bit. Well, so the whole... The rule
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: that if it's cramping, it's a conditioning issue, so they
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: can't treat it with a physio. And him saying, this
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: isn't cramping. Ant-Man was saying, I'm not cramping. And he
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: kind of yelled at the physio.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Well, I think he thought he's... Because he's so smart.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I think he thought he had found a perfect logic thing.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: And he was saying... I know that I can't receive
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: treatment for cramping, which is why I've called out the doctor.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Because why would I call out the doctor to deal
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: with my cramping? Because you're not allowed to do that.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: So I think he was like, aha, I have got
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: you perfectly.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Checkmate. Excuse me, can you just give me treatment and
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: then stop acting stupid? Is it possible to have some
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: common sense? I tell him I have pain. Why is
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: he saying no? I have pain. Yeah, but it's my body, right?
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I have one on both there, so I need treatment, please.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: What do you mean, come on, man?
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I tell you I have 10 months of an election.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: It's not parenting. I have pain. P-A-I-N. Oh, that helps. Yeah,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I know the rules. That's why I'm asking you. That's
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: why I'm calling you because I know I cannot get
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: for cramp.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: See, I think he thinks he's one with logic.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: It's not terrible. I mean, but then you got the
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: physio going, no, it's cramp. It's cramp. What's your credential?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I think he just wanted to see the past because
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: he likes spelling out words. You know, you saw him
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: when he said pain, P-A-I-N. I think he wanted to
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: see his name and say Richard. All right. Yeah, you know,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: like to get into the fun of that potentially.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But this guy, he's already called him stupid.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's like, are you stupid?
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: And he's like, I have pain. Treat me. But then
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: you watch when he's like waddling around and you're like,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: that's clearly cramps.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Look, it's kind of like a morally ambiguous area, I guess,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: because they all kind of deal with the cramping thing.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: We all know people are cramping and there's kind of
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: this blur. It is hard to prove, hence his logic.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: But I guess... I mean, he really kind of put
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: the foot down and went a bit hard on it.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: But in his defense, and I mean, you or I
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: don't have this problem, but imagine everyone you meet is
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: less intelligent than you. It must be very hard to
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: keep it.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Together sometimes ah right so he was he was condescending
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: he was condescending to a medical professional because he's smarter
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: than the medical because he knows the aliens built the pyramids.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Well of course and why else would he help that
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: that um physio out by teaching him how to spell
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: pain that's true then him being like god i've got
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: to do everything i need to help this physio out
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: that probably hasn't done as much study on the area as.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I have yeah and i mean maybe he was in
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: pain maybe the government had something.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: To do yeah exactly maybe the government put a fake
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: cramp in the leg think about that that could have.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Happened So, I mean, eventually leading to him losing in
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: five to Munar. He lost it after all that. So,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was a wild one. Another unexpected result
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: was Tsitsipas beating Arthur Fies in four. Fies was up 6-4, 5-2,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: and then managed to lose the match from there.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Could Tsitsipas be back? I mean, I feel like everyone's
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: said that for the last few years.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: New coach, not his dad, Patrick Mourataglou.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I like that. It would be hard
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: to get coached by your dad. You know, there'd be
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: all these other emotions. So maybe that could be, you know,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: a breath of fresh air.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I think, I mean, he looked great and fees just
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: won Cincinnati.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: He could be tired as well.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Bit of a hangover from that. He's had trouble in
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Grand Slams. He's, I don't know if he's been that
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: deep in a slam because maybe it's the five set
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: format or, you know, whatever, like you said, fatigue from Cincinnati.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: But since it passed through to the second round, which
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: not a lot of people saw come.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, you wouldn't, there's some part of you that
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: wouldn't want to win Cincinnati because you're playing so close
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: to the US Open.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: And like, I don't know if it's bad luck, but
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: part of you would be like to make the quarters
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: or the semis would be perfect because then you focus,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: you've got the match practice in and then you could
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: just kind of get your head in the game for
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: the US Open.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: It would, I mean, I don't know. I'm completely speculating.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I would be happy to be at either, to be honest,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: me personally.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: But.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: You know, it does make you think. To win and
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: then just go out immediately.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: But then running into Tsitsipas, you'd be like, oh, well,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: if he turns it on, we know where he could be.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: You'd kind of be like, God, well, what do you
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: do there? That's not the first round match I wanted.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: And Tsitsipas had a losing record against Arthur Fies going
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: into this match. And then maybe it is the coaching difference.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Patrick Moritagalu, for anyone who's like, follows any kind of
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: tennis algorithm on socials he is all over it with
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: tips and coaching and really and yeah he runs an
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: academy i think out of spain somewhere and he's uh
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: he's now in his corner and so is that the
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: difference is Tsitsipas going to make a deep run? Totally.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Remains to be seen. This one, I mean, like you
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: mentioned briefly before, Varinka playing his last Grand Slam match ever,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: losing to Berrettini. Unfortunately got bageled in the last set.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Had a chance in the second set, but couldn't close
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: it out on his serve. And, yeah, another guy. Tears.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: More tears.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Have you enjoyed his, I mean, because that's the last slam.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Have you enjoyed his kind of farewell lap?
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Loved it.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I think it's been nice.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: And I think that's a sign of, that's why I
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: think tennis is a good game. One of the best.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Get rid of that.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Moving on. No, no, no.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I was about to make a good point. I was
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: going to say that is what I think is so
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: attractive about the sport of tennis is the personalities and
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: that it offers the individualistic side of it. Thing can
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: be kind of a little bit, you know, tedious sometimes,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: but it does offer the chance for people to have
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: real connections and say goodbye in a way that sometimes
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't get to with team sports and tennis because
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: they're so at the forefront and so open and vulnerable.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: You get these great moments where you get to say
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: goodbye and he's saying thanks and the American fans, The
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: US Open, New Yorkers are saying thank you. I found
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: it very nice. And it's happened all year.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: It has.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: And Monfils on the other end of that also doing
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: his victory lap at the moment. Let's check in. He
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: just won his first round match against Vallejo in four sets.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: So that is an absolutely awesome result. So we'll see
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Monfils playing in the second round. In the women's side
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: of things, Kazakina is struggling against Bedosa right now. Coco
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Gauff just took out Zeynep Sonmez of Turkey. So, yeah,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: do yourself a favor. Watch a Putintseva match if you
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: get the chance. She just beat Belinda Bencic. So that's
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: a huge upset on the women's side.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Bencic seeded 12th.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Seeded 12th. So that's huge. Putintseva. Very feisty and volatile.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Can you say feisty?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I think you could say feisty. Yeah, feisty is fine.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: If you say it without that grin that you said
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: it with.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Can you not say feisty?
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: No, you can say feisty.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Feisty is good. I love watching her play. Her and
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Ostapenko are probably two of the most entertaining just in
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: terms of their reaction to when a call doesn't go
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: their way.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the best.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So she, beating Bencic is huge in three
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: very tight sets. They had to stop play at one
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: point because there was drones flying overhead.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2026. What the hell's going on?
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I know. On the women's side, though, like, a lot
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: of just, like, par for the course, Sabs cruising over Osorio.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Amanda Anisimova, a great win on her birthday. Siobhan Tech,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: easy win. So, like, Yeah, the women are kind of
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: cruising along. I'd say Bencic would be the biggest upset
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: happening on that side of things. So, the U.S. Open.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk about it next week when
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: we know.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Should we do a podcast every day from here on in? Yeah.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I'm also saying this. I really want to get out
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: of the house at the moment.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I was super dry in my mouth. Okay.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Now, contractually, I actually don't know if I'm on a contract,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: but Errol just told me that I have to do
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: everyone's favorite segment, Approaching the Net, a.k.a. Sam Slam.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: No.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: No, I said play the other one, the fun one
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: we did before.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I made an editorial choice.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: No, play the fun one. No, play another one.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, this one. Terrific.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Approaching the Net, a.k.a. Sam Slam.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Grand Sam.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Grand Sam Slam featuring me, Sam Taunton.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Son of Sam.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Son of Sam.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: If you had.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Broken up with a partner, I know you've only ever
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: been with one person your entire life. That's kind of
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: the way you roll.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Jesus.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Jesus. So say you break up with Jesus. Do you
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: go back to the scene of the, to where you
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: know Jesus is hanging out and kind of poke.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Church? Yeah.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Poke your nose. Okay.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Let's say hypothetically, do I go back to where my
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: ex works?
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Yes. To their workplace.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Because this week, Morgan Riddle, she's back. She's at the
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: US Open. Now, it kind of makes sense in her
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: work capacity, but is it disrespectful since parting ways with
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Taylor Fritz for her to be there?
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Her work capacity as an influencer.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: That's what I mean.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: It is legitimate for her to be there. We can't discredit.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Go back to that last photo of her. That is terrifying.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: She looks scary.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I know this wasn't during a Taylor Fritz match.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: But if it was, and you look over and see your,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: say you're on stage and you look, And your ex
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: is in the front row with that look on her face.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, you walk off stage.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Do you have a good set?
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But also I might ask.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: With a boyfriend clearly hotter than you.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: The new boyfriend. I don't know who he is. He
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: looks good. To describe her, I would say she looks
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: like the ice queen. She's got a kind of blank
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: look on her face. Like maybe she doesn't want to
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: be there or she's eyeballing someone trying to maybe telekinetically
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: pass on some kind of like super virus to insert
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: into their body. Next to what can only be described
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: as like a 10. She's with a 10. Like a hunk.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: This is a perfect specimen of a man. A perfect specimen. Yeah.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a shame that his nipple isn't out
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: like Carlos's was.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: They both look AI.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: She actually does look like she's not real. Like she's
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: been created in a lab right now. But it would
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: seem like imagine if she. Just went to a Taylor Fritz.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I guess she's allowed to go.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: And she's probably got a AAA pass.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: She might see him around. It would be very off-putting.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: It still seems like an intentional move. Yeah.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: But the problem is, I guess she's in the one
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: world where, like, if you broke up with your partner,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: you can't. go to their office, bang out of order.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: They'll call people.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Bad look.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: But if your partner is playing at the US Open,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: you're allowed to go to the US Open.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: And so you can still mess with them a little bit.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Well, this is it.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: And she's kind of got a free pass here.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: It's still slightly odd. But if the partner, your ex-partner,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: has a public-facing job, like stand up. Yeah. So like
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I said, if an ex came and sat in the
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: front row, it would be nuts.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She could sit in the back. A ticket is
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: a ticket. She'd have to buy a ticket.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Unless her new partner is, like, gross.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Then sit in the front.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: If he's, like, disgusting and he's, like, got, like, food
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: stains on his shirt and he's, like, dribbling or something,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: please sit in the front. I'll have the best set
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: of my life.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, his meatball stains.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're a little bit embarrassed about him. But
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: when he looks like that.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: And you're just like, God. When do they.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: All right, so they've done some TikTok trend here.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: She's sitting really close to the front.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, Fritz won his first match, so he's through
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: to the second round, but I just wonder if this
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: plays into his mental landscape.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it can't help. It makes you just think you
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: should never date anyone. Put your tennis first, go back
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: into the bubble and just concentrate on the tennis because
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: you don't need this kind of hoo-ha going on.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, the new boyfriend must be like, am I
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: being used as a pawn in this mental warfare?
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Well, if he's not, he's like, God, he needs to
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: wake up. Hey, sweetie, I know we've been dating a month.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: You want to come to my ex-boyfriend's work with me
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: for the afternoon?
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: And we'll show off and try to make him jealous
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: because I'm totally over him.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: And he's got some diamond studded bracelet on just to
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: flex whatever.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I kind of like that bit. That's kind of nice, that.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: He's obviously got money.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I don't know.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: This is too much. Anyway, moving on. Now, speaking of money,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: you know, America personifies wealth and kind of extravagance. At
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: the US Open, you can get caviar. on your chicken nuggets,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: which I've never heard of this before. It'll set you
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: back a cool $ 100. Cockaduck? Is that Cockadack?
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Probably. Cockadack. Have you ever heard that?
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Is that an American?
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Some financial. I think it's a funky Korean restaurant in
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: New York.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. So they're doing fried chicken with caviar on
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: it for a cool $ 100 USD. So you're kind of
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: looking at, what, $ 180 Australian there?
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. $ 140. $ 100 for a box of six nuggets. It
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: would want to be good.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: It's officially the U.S.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Open, which means the $ 100 Caviar Chicken Nugget Box is back.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to tell you if it's still worth getting. Now,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: the box comes with 30 grams of Petrosian Imperial Caviar, which,
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: in my opinion, is worth $ 100 in and of itself.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: You get six pieces of Kokodok's Crispy Chicken Nuggets that
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: come with creme fraiche, chives, and, of course, some delicious daikon.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: This bite and doing a caviar bump at the U.S.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Open is worth $ 100 in my opinion.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Bump? I mean... Wait, what? Bump? That's New York.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: A caviar bomb.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know how appetizing that looks to me.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Also, she said it's back and is it still worth it,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: implying that it was definitely worth it last year.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: But this year, maybe it's not because there's better uses
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: of your $ 100 USD. I don't know.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe. But also, I've never had a chicken nugget and thought,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: you know what would make this better? Fish eggs.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I have a chicken nugget and I'm like, I'm disgusting.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I'm a slob.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: And then I don't want to be like, oh, now
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: I'm also can't pay my mortgage. That bite right there
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: was worth every dollar in my pocket. um and finally
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: this is not us open related but this really caught
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: my interest some guy and i don't know why he
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: did this has put like um what like a sound
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: thing a speaker inside a tennis ball and when you
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: hit the tennis ball it moans so it mimics the
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: noise of a professional tennis player you i think you'd
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: like this have a look at this all right.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Do you like it no.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: So you need a ue boom yeah here you go
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: what's the point i don't know what the point is
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: i guess in case you're out there playing tennis and
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: you want.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: To annoy everybody.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: You're too lazy to kind of do it yourself to
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: replicate your favorite tennis player.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Right right so you need a grunt.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Yes also it's the it's the male grunts which i
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: like the least it sounds like you're in a a
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: cubicle at a golf course and four 80-year-olds come in
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: to use the urinal.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Aren't a bit backed up.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: And they're like, oh, and you're like, oh, my God,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: what am I hearing right now?
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: They had a bit too much cock-a-dock nuggets.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: I think they had cock-a-nockers.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Cock-a-nockers.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: But anyway, that's definitely something that no one needs, no
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: one asked for, and I can't see it. Well, what?
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: What? That hurts.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: No. You know, for such a positive podcast episode. Do
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: you feel bullied? To end in that way, it's just disappointing, really.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, we did it. So, early days of the U.S. Open.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: At this point, has your predictions changed for the eventual winner?
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm thinking I would love to see Alcaraz
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: obviously win it all.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think now that Carlos, he was kind
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: of such a we didn't know, unknown, I think.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people watching it would
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: love to see. It's kind of a cool story.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Maybe Errol wants to see more nipple. That's the only
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: reason why he wants Carlos to stay in the tournament.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: But I would love to see outgrows do well.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I would obviously still think it's Igor Spontak taking the title,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: but we will find out next week. Bye-bye. Please give
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: some love to the baby.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: Love to the baby.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Love to the baby.