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Be Clareful · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hey guys, welcome to the Almost
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  Speaker 1: same As podcast. This week, The Bachelorette UM airs on Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: so we decided to get on the mics today just
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  Speaker 1: to talk about hot topics and have a few favorites
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast, including Dianna Stagliano, um, who was on
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  Speaker 1: Claire's last episode and to see like where her part
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  Speaker 1: got edited? You know, um, we want to talk to
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  Speaker 1: her about what went down when Claire decided to cancel
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  Speaker 1: the daytime portion of the date last last episode. But
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  Speaker 1: before that, Hello, Ben, what's going on? You know what? Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I think we just love talking to each other so
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  Speaker 1: much and we love our listeners so much that we're like,
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  Speaker 1: why don't just like pump out five podcasts a week?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe six? Well, let's start with two. Okay, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think we're gonna be doing two for the next month.
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  Speaker 1: The month of November, we'll have two podcasts, so make
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  Speaker 1: be Tuesday after the episode, uh, you know, Wednesday morning
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  Speaker 1: probably like a Thursday or Friday, episode as well. It's
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  Speaker 1: just it's just out of love. I think there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of love going aroundight now. Well, hey, speaking of love,
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  Speaker 1: as Ashley mentioned, we do have Dan went on, we
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  Speaker 1: And so we're pumped to talk to him. But before
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor hot topics headlines, whatever you wanna call it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: matter and here's the first Bachelor at producer pinpoints the
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  Speaker 1: exact moment Claire Crawley had to be replaced. This according
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  Speaker 1: to Vulture, so um Ben Wah actually kind of hinted
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  Speaker 1: at this a couple of days ago when we did
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  Speaker 1: his in depth Rob Mills. He is the ABC executive
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  Speaker 1: in charge of If It's Not a scripted show, Rob
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  Speaker 1: Mills has a large part in its production. Um, so
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  Speaker 1: he said on Nick's podcast, Actually that, um, the moment
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  Speaker 1: that she didn't Claire didn't give out a rose on
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  Speaker 1: that group day and she gave it to herself. That
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  Speaker 1: was the moment that they knew they had to start
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  Speaker 1: thinking about or that was the moment that they kind
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  Speaker 1: of made the call. They were like, Okay, we're probably
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  Speaker 1: gonna need a call tation. Their connection, her and Dale's
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  Speaker 1: connection was just like at that point too strong. She
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  Speaker 1: couldn't fake it any longer. It couldn't suffice for the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the season. I'd say I would love Ashley
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  Speaker 1: to have been in the war room of the Bachelorette
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  Speaker 1: producers as this was going down, Like how they're they're
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  Speaker 1: brilliant at what they do. Uh. Obviously they've made twenty
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  Speaker 1: years worth of television. But like, as this is playing out,
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  Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, how do we make it a full season?
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  Speaker 1: As we know how this like she's very obviously in
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  Speaker 1: a Dale Dales into her this is over. These guys
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  Speaker 1: are starting to realize it. Like for them to now
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  Speaker 1: come up with, well, we're gonna bring in a brand
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  Speaker 1: new Bachelor att that people are gonna be super pumped
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  Speaker 1: about and we're gonna make this work like that is
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  Speaker 1: some massive strategicy. Oh yeah, absolutely, And I think we
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  Speaker 1: also should mention that Rob Mills said something also very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: He says that Claire swears on her dad's grave that
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  Speaker 1: she and Dale did not speak before the show. And
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  Speaker 1: I completely believe her if she's swearing on her dad's grave.
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  Speaker 1: And I also, you know, like that's intense, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that she knows that she wouldn't have gotten in
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  Speaker 1: that much trouble if she just admitted that they did, right,
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  Speaker 1: like she Because how many couples talk before paradise and
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  Speaker 1: then it's all dandy. I mean, you know, people can
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  Speaker 1: say what they want about Claire. Obviously, you and I
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  Speaker 1: uh like Claire. We think she's a great choice. For
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor Atte we wanted mostly because we just want to
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  Speaker 1: see her or find love. She found it. The one
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  Speaker 1: thing nobody can like say about Claire in any type
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  Speaker 1: of criticism is she's not honest, Like that girl is
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  Speaker 1: to a fault, like blunt honest and like right to
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  Speaker 1: your face. And so I wouldn't I have to trust
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  Speaker 1: her because she's never shown signs of like not being truthful.
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  Speaker 1: I mean even when people have tried to call out
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  Speaker 1: for lying through this season, saying oh yeah, you went
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  Speaker 1: to problem like that was a big deal or not,
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  Speaker 1: like she still proved him wrong. So like Claire, I
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  Speaker 1: believe her, not only because she you know, sworn her
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  Speaker 1: dad's grave, which just makes me feel all sorts of
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  Speaker 1: heavy um, but she's been honest. So next headline is
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  Speaker 1: about Claire as well. Chris Harrison addresses if and this
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  Speaker 1: has been a question for me, uh and it kind
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  Speaker 1: of goes back off this topic. Chris Harrison addresses if
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  Speaker 1: Claire Crawley was forced out of the Bachelorette. This according
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  Speaker 1: to ET Okay, So I don't want to get this wrong,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna read the direct quotes here. He said,
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  Speaker 1: I would just say that she has complete control. Um.
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  Speaker 1: He also said that he hasn't spoken to Claire for
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks now. He said this season of The
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  Speaker 1: Bachelorette was completely about Claire. It's all about Claire, which
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  Speaker 1: sounds very reminiscent of what we heard him say a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago where he said what it was
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  Speaker 1: Claire season. He also says that Claire will decide where
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  Speaker 1: we go from here, and it's totally completely up to her. No,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like that is referring to her in the
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  Speaker 1: moment and not her now right, Yes, No, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I don't think she's sitting behind the scenes pulling any
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  Speaker 1: you know, anything here, Like she is definitely out of
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  Speaker 1: it now, she's living her life. The show has already
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  Speaker 1: been taped. I think in the moment is what he's
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  Speaker 1: referring to. Actually, I'm still though confused, because now we
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  Speaker 1: have like everything but a confirmation that Tassia steps in here. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how it can be Claire season if
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  Speaker 1: Tassia comes in at this point. I mean, maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: like maybe it's fifty fifty, maybe it's reversed, but like
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  Speaker 1: it's not season no, Okay, So I think Chris is
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  Speaker 1: here trying to defend the show because I think there's
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  Speaker 1: been so many conspiracy theories out this week that they
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  Speaker 1: went into the taping of Claire's season with the thought that,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what happens, we're going to bring in another bachelorette. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Whether that's because they got flat when they announced Claire
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  Speaker 1: back in March, or whether they thought it would be
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  Speaker 1: an interesting spin, I don't know, but lots of people
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  Speaker 1: have been saying, oh, Tassia was like in the wings
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  Speaker 1: the entire time. Well, I can tell you Tasia was
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  Speaker 1: not asked at all to step in until like three
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  Speaker 1: four days whatever it took to quarantine her until she
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  Speaker 1: started filming. You know, like the girl was notified. The
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  Speaker 1: week she started filming was the week that she got
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  Speaker 1: a call from them. Yeah, Like her Instagram post said,
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  Speaker 1: you rang, Like I think that's true. They call She's
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  Speaker 1: hanging out at home. She's probably like wuarantine in our couch,
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  Speaker 1: eating some chips, and all of a sudden she gets
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  Speaker 1: a called you you want to be the Bachelorette? And
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  Speaker 1: she's like, well yeah, when uh like this next week? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I think like that's a big move for her, And
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  Speaker 1: I mean The alternative is that, yeah, Tasia was called
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  Speaker 1: months in advance and prep for this. I just don't
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  Speaker 1: see the show doing that. Yeah, I don't see you
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  Speaker 1: know that? Yeah, No, I know this. I know this. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So here's a here's a big moment, Ashley, Yeah, confirming
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  Speaker 1: you are Ashley can Eddie is confirming that Tasha Adams
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  Speaker 1: was not called previous to the season, that she was
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  Speaker 1: called just days in advance of her starting the Bachelorette. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Now I should clarify that was she in talks to
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  Speaker 1: be the Bachelorette seasons, you know, like back in the winter. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: in the winter. Was she in consideration before Hannah's season? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: But was she her thinking about being like a replacement
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  Speaker 1: of fill in Bachelorette? Was she in the know about
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  Speaker 1: this weeks before taking over? Absolutely not. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that Chris goes ahead and explains this even more so
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  Speaker 1: when he says it was all about plan a, Um,
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  Speaker 1: we said, what do we do with this season with Claire?
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  Speaker 1: Where do we go with that? He said, it was
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  Speaker 1: really about Claire and her decisions. It's her decisions that
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  Speaker 1: you're going to see, so well, everything will be in
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  Speaker 1: this upcoming episode. He said that they put it all
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  Speaker 1: in her court, completely up to her, and he said,
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  Speaker 1: while I'm saying that, it really is something that you're
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  Speaker 1: all gonna need to see this week, um, and we
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  Speaker 1: want you to see so you can judge. But in
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  Speaker 1: my humble opinion, he says, it really it's really her
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  Speaker 1: call from where we go from here? So interesting. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is gonna be a huge week. I
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  Speaker 1: think bachel Nation is tuning in. I think they've captivated
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  Speaker 1: us all. I think it's just interesting, intriguing. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like Claire's love story, I don't know if it will
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  Speaker 1: have the pinnacle kind of feeling that um, like a
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  Speaker 1: full season would feel like like I think it might
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  Speaker 1: just feel like, Okay, she fell in love, now she's out.
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  Speaker 1: But like the way that I'm still intrigued is because
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  Speaker 1: I want to see how this all goes down. And
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  Speaker 1: this is the reference to the next hot topic which
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  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison asks this question and we saw this in
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  Speaker 1: a dramatic Bachelort sneak peak. The question he asked Claire
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  Speaker 1: is did you lie to all of Bachelor Nation? This?
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  Speaker 1: According to E News, what a statement? Did you lie
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  Speaker 1: to all of Bachelor Nation. Okay, so this again is
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  Speaker 1: referring to the speculation that she and Dale were in
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  Speaker 1: communication before filming began, and we got her answer she
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  Speaker 1: sare on her dad's grave. Um, but you know so
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  Speaker 1: I think that's that's the question. He The question that
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  Speaker 1: everyone is going to be asking when they have of
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  Speaker 1: this also teased sit down is did you guys talk beforehand?
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  Speaker 1: Because we've never seen a connection so strong and so
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  Speaker 1: season altering this early on so on behalf of Bachelor Nation?
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  Speaker 1: Where are you hiding something from us? Did you talk
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  Speaker 1: to him? And she's gonna apparently say no. I mean
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  Speaker 1: it is the question that we're all asking, and you
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  Speaker 1: know Claire has come out and said no, I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: I fell in love? Um. You know this is a
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  Speaker 1: tough one to talk about, this next hot topic, because
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  Speaker 1: it is when we speak about all the time on
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  Speaker 1: this podcast. I mean, we are broken records when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to um, how much we know our friends, how
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  Speaker 1: much are we ourselves? Uh deal with criticism and how
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  Speaker 1: hard it is and how much it makes this question?
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  Speaker 1: Are just who we are and our worth? And you
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  Speaker 1: know where we sit in this world? Uh? And it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't get an easier. I feel like as time goes on,
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  Speaker 1: people just get more and more blunt, they get more
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  Speaker 1: and more mean, They say things on social media that
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  Speaker 1: just aren't fair and not kind. And Claire's obviously sitting
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  Speaker 1: in a place right now where there is criticism. She's
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  Speaker 1: doing something unconventional when it comes to what we expect
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  Speaker 1: out of the Bachelorette, and it's typically change is always
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  Speaker 1: the thing that brings the most criticism when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to this show, Like anything radical, new or change worthy
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  Speaker 1: is always the thing that people criticize or talk about. Well,
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  Speaker 1: this season is definitely that. It's been that since the
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  Speaker 1: very beginning. Well, the headline reads, Claire Crawley is struggling
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  Speaker 1: with Bachelorette criticism. Bachelor Nation bff Michelle Money, who we
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  Speaker 1: have in the podcast a few weeks ago, reveals and
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  Speaker 1: this according to US Weekly. Yeah, so she said that she,
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  Speaker 1: you know, has been speaking to Claire throughout the weeks
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  Speaker 1: and so that she is really struggling right now. She's
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  Speaker 1: having a hard time. Um. But she says that like
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  Speaker 1: all these people who are giving her hate, she just
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  Speaker 1: wants them to heal. She wants to help them. She
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  Speaker 1: hates that. Um, she just you know, wants to live
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  Speaker 1: everyone up. She hates being surrounded by negativity. She also
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  Speaker 1: says that Claire spent an equal amount of time with
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  Speaker 1: every single one of these guys. So what's frustrating is
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  Speaker 1: that you don't get to see the whole story, Michelle says.
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  Speaker 1: She says, but that's, you know, the price that you
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  Speaker 1: pay for going on the show. The positives almost always
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  Speaker 1: always outweigh the negatives. But that is something that like,
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  Speaker 1: I think that it's important for Ben and I to
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  Speaker 1: also bring up. It's like, I know, you guys have
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  Speaker 1: heard us say this multiple times before, but you are
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  Speaker 1: filming almost seven almost four seven, and of course it's
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  Speaker 1: going to get crammed down into an hour and twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, they're gonna show the parts with with Dale
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  Speaker 1: because those are the most critical parts in her love story.
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  Speaker 1: If the lead doesn't have a strong connection or nothing
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  Speaker 1: really ends up happening with one of the guys, Like,
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  Speaker 1: they're not going to show that, They're gonna show what
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  Speaker 1: is most crucial to you understanding who they end up
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  Speaker 1: with in the end, right, Yeah, definitely, I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: the story that you said it perfectly. It's compressed and
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  Speaker 1: so you want to show an accurate story. Uh, And
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  Speaker 1: the story is that she fell in love with Dale.
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  Speaker 1: Now the crazy part about this and which I wish
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  Speaker 1: they wouldn't hide, And I kind of think that Claire
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  Speaker 1: Shine hide is I felt like I think I fell
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  Speaker 1: in love with this dude from like first glance, Like
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  Speaker 1: from night one, he was like so far in my
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  Speaker 1: head and so much in my heart that like I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't function without talking to him, or I couldn't and
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  Speaker 1: it just kept getting better and better and better. And yes,
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  Speaker 1: like some of these guys didn't maybe get the chance
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  Speaker 1: that others would on other seasons, but other seasons aren't
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  Speaker 1: like this, Like not everybody falls in love so quickly,
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  Speaker 1: or at least falls in like so quickly. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: she could. I mean we see, we see in the
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  Speaker 1: show that the guys are jealous of the time that
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  Speaker 1: Dale has been getting. But let's just say that the
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  Speaker 1: time that he's been getting compared to the other guys
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  Speaker 1: is super marginal, Like he might be getting ten or
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  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes extra, but she's still having sit down with
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  Speaker 1: all these guys. She is, I mean, yes, for I
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  Speaker 1: think we don't get to see him, but I'm imagining this,
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  Speaker 1: and I have nothing to base this on Ashley. I'm
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  Speaker 1: imagining this is how it plays out, is she's sitting
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  Speaker 1: down with all these guys, but those conversations just aren't interesting,
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  Speaker 1: Like she's she's so much into Dale that like there's
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  Speaker 1: no chemistry between her and these other guys, so it's
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  Speaker 1: not worth showing, or we'd just be watching two people
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  Speaker 1: kind of sit there with like birds or crickets chirping
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  Speaker 1: in the background, and they're just kind of like looking
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  Speaker 1: at each other and things get awkward and then they leave.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to watch that. I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: know who does. And maybe be helpful if we saw
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  Speaker 1: more of that, because we would get a better perspective
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  Speaker 1: of her time spent. But you can only show that
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  Speaker 1: so many times before it's just awkward and weird, and
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  Speaker 1: actually I think would would make Claire look worse and
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  Speaker 1: and so in a sense, they're kind of like protecting
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  Speaker 1: her from that. I'm imagining by saying, hey, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: show her love story. Now. We don't know where her
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  Speaker 1: love story really ends yet, but we are now assuming
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  Speaker 1: that we have for months that Tasha Adams does come
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  Speaker 1: in as the Bachelorette, and we see her revealed by
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  Speaker 1: her getting out of a pool. Well, she's playing super
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  Speaker 1: coy about this. In fact, the headline of this article
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  Speaker 1: by People reads, Tasha Adams place coy about her steamy
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor appearance. She has, I was just swimming around. Come on,
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  Speaker 1: I just hear this coming out of Tasa's mouth, she
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  Speaker 1: says on her podcast Clickbait with Joe and Hannah Ann.
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  Speaker 1: She says, uh. She says, um, you know I would
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  Speaker 1: just I love Palm Springs, I love Laquinta. I vacation there.
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  Speaker 1: It's summer, it's hot. I was in a pool, just
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  Speaker 1: like swimming around with imlay you're referring to. So she's like, because,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, like the franchise itself has not declared her
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  Speaker 1: the bachelorette yet, and all they've shown is her getting
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  Speaker 1: out of a pool. She's also not confirming that she's
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a bachelorette, so she's just there and like they somehow
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: caught her on film. If this is how this plays out,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: like if Tatia actually isn't the Bachelor, I'm gonna be shocked,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: like shocked. I I can't absolutely just blown away. That
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: would be the greatest spin of all time. That would
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: be the most shocking thing ever if like it is
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: all like a lie and she showed up to like
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: host a date. Yeah exactly, and then like Claire sticks
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: around and she ends up with some other dude in
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: the Yeah, well that would be wild. Um. Well, speaking
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: of this, the Bachelorette host Chris Harrison did mention um
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: why they waited to address Tasha Adams in the New
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: York Post article. Actually we wondered, you know, why are
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: you staying so secret about this? Why are you not
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: confronting this? We all hear about it. What's going on? Well,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Chris addresses it. Yeah. He basically just said that there's
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: a method to their madness in waiting. And he said that,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: you know, they wanted the focus to be on Claire.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: This was, you know, supposed to be her season of
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the Bachelorette, and that he was also very intimately involved
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: with the decision making to bring in atoms. And that
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: makes sense because Chris Harrison is an executive producer on
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the show. Is he not? He is he has been
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: a long time. Um, sad news, not like that, sad
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: not But I love the tell all shows. I think
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: they're hilarious and I think they're always interesting to watch
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the chemistry. Will uh just glance over this one. But
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison did say that he cannot promise tell all
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: this year obviously due to COVID and the restrictions, and
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: so we're kind of up in the air right now
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: if we'll ever see these guys back together in the
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: same room again, which is unfortunate. Yeah, if I imagine
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: if they do something along the lines that they'll have
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: like a couple of guys who are really crucial, maybe
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: like whoever was in the end the top five or six, right,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: But like, we don't need any villains there. We only
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: bring up a villain storyline. We don't need Yosef back.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: You know, we saw like Yosef kind of sucks. We
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: don't need any more confirmation. Yeah. In fact, this week,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Tyler See kind of came out and said, Hey, this
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: girl that's coming up with these videos that is posting
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: on TikTok that we talked about last week, Like, that's
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: not even the girl I was talking about. And so
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: one of our listeners rode in and said, wait, does
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: that mean there is more than one? I don't know.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think we can confirm or deny, but Tyler
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: C did come out and say the guy that that
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: is not the girl that I was referring to on
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: night one. Yeah, so basically Joseph was messing around with
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of girls and what Tyler You know, Tyler
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: C may have been eliminated for very poor reasoning. Yeah,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he was her number one
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: choice either way, it probably wasn't gonna happen. But like
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: live been around a little bit longer. Well, bouncing from
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Claire to the current Bachelor's season that's filming right now.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor's Matt James uh Robert Mills sat down with
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Nick Vile on The Vile Files and said that something
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: really crazy went down on White on Night one with
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Matt James. All we have to elaborate on here is
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: that he says something happens on that one that that
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I've never seen before. Maybe it's because of Matt's naivete,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: you know, like he's ever been through this. Um. He
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: also says it's not what you think, though I don't
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: know what we're thinking, So that doesn't eliminate much to me,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: But he says it's really crazy and he can confidently
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: say that Matt will be the only bachelor this season.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: It's uh, it's probably a good thing. I don't think
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: we can take too many flips, flips and flops. Uh
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: this year. It's already crazy enough. Well. Our last headline
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: is one of Hannah Brown. Hannah Brown sat down with
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Caitlin Bristow on Off the Vine and she says she
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: was broken after the Bachelorette and Dancing with the Stars.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Uh this according to US Weekly. Yeah, so I also
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: don't want to like make up what she's you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: summarize what she said, So I'm gonna read the quotes
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: directly here. She said, I had to look within think
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: what just happened? What has the past year and a
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: half been? Like? Who even were you before that? And
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: have you lost the girl? Or is that girl the
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: same or just different? Or am I just somebody that
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I didn't even recognize. She said that there was a
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: lot of things that she didn't like about herself anymore.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: And she said that a lot of it has to
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: do with just like being filmed twenty four hours a day. Um,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: but it's only on for less than two hours a
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: week when you take away the commercials, and she said,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: that's all people get to see, so you know that
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that shows just like one side of her, And she
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: says that she started her YouTube channels so that fans
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: can see a different side of her. And both Caitlin
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and Hannah agreed that filming The Bachelor was way more
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: fun than filming The Bachelorette, which I think that if
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: you go back and ask, like a lot of leads
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: or or even people like me who were on multiple seasons,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: like when it comes to fun, the first season seems
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: to be always the most fun. Maybe not the most growing,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: maybe not like the season you got the most out of,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: but definitely just the most easy, breezy. I I appreciate
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: that Hannah was honest here and open. I think one
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: of the things that happens when you get off a show,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: and for anybody out there listening to this, like whenever
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: you have kind of your your high points in life,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: like the things that really excite you are different, or
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: you know, if it's a promotion at work, or if
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you get engaged, or if you meet the love of
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: your life, or if you buy your first home or
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: any of those big like life moments. Um a kid,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: having a kid, like there's a letdown and and I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: think for anybody goes on the show, it is a high,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: like you have cameras around, people treat you like you're
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: somebody for a period of time and like you feel special.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: And I know for me, like I struggled with that,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Like as hard as you want to fight, hey, I
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: don't want this to become my reality. I don't want
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: to get used to this because I know it's ending.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: It's really hard when you live in it for so long,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and the longer you're in it, the more comfortable you
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: get in it, and the more you expect to continue.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: And there is a letdown then from that whenever that ends,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: because it ends for everybody no matter you know, if
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: you're an actor or an actress or if you're a
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: CEO of a company or whatever, Like when you have
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of attention on you, at some point in
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: your life, that ends. And when it does, it is uncomfortable,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: it hurts, it feels weird. Um, I have had that
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: happen to me. Uh And and I know many people
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: that we know how to happen to them, And so
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I like that she's honest about it, because one of
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the worst. One of the things that frustrates me the most, Ashley,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: about myself and then as a result, probably about others,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: is when there's like this expectation that this will continue
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: forever um and you try to do whatever it takes
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: to make it continue forever, because then you do, like
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Hannah said, and you lose yourself, You stop being yourself,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: and you start being whatever anybody wants you to be.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: And then years after that you're going I I lost
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: myself in the midst of this. It's it's why a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: little side tangent here before we bring on some guests.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: But I have something I want to admit to you,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: m h I cried recently, Okay, and it's gonna be
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: over something that you're going to be shocked by. Okay,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: here's what I got tear added over justin Bieber's Lonely song.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I watched you talked about this a couple of weeks.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I just was that off air? Was that that was
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: on air? Was it on air? Well? Anyways, I it's
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: still on my head, like that song still like gets me,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: and I don't know why. Like I'm not a Bieber fan.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I don't dislike the guy but watching his music video,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and I think it's worth mentioning twice now in a podcast.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Is you just get a perspective of this like kid
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: who has so many expectations placed on him, so many
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: things expected of him, and he feels so lonely in
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the midst and I and I wonder, actually, how many
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: people out there listening to this for whatever their life
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: is involving right now, and COVID is obviously one of them,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Like how many people feel super lonely, um, and they
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: don't know how to get out of it? Well, I
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: know that you really relate on that topic. And now
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I have to admit I haven't seen this video and
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to. I cannot believe you haven't
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: seen it, Ashley. This is crazy. Um, I've watched the
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Justin Bieber music video and you haven't. This is now.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: This is another high in my life and I'll have
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: to come that off of this. I've got something on Ashley. Hey,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: ash let's move on now. We got a couple of
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: guests coming up on the podcast. We're super excited to
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: talk to. Uh Blake Hortsman is gonna be on breaking
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: down his life. Well, he's up to it today and
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: uh and obviously uh, Diana will come on as well. Okay, guys,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: we have Blake on the line. Blake, I'm starting out
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: with a very ashley question. So we didn't in depth
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: with Jason a couple of weeks ago, and I said, well,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: now that that Garrett and Becca are no longer together,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: who from the franchise can you see Becca getting with now?
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: And he immediately said, Blake and you guys are going
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: to rekindle the romance. Ben, it's got his hand on
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: his face right now. Have you spoken to Becca since
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the split? Actually did listen to that podcast with Jason.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, Jason, U s O B. I was like,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: way to put that out there. No, Yeah, we've chatted
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, you know, I told her
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I support her, and you know, I hope she I
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: hope she's doing well and everything. But it's it's just
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: a friendship. We have a good relationship I think for
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the most part. I mean we've been friendly the whole
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: time since even the finale, you know, so there's never
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: been any kind of weirdness between uns or anything like that.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: So this has actually been placed in hot topics, but
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: it seems as if Garrett has a new girlfriend. He
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: posted a picture of a girl yesterday on his Instagram
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: and he said like something about a cute pumpkin at
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: a pumpkin patch. Have you talked to him about this
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: new relationship? Uh? Yeah, I did see that picture. Uh No,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I haven't chatted with him about the relationship anything. We
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: haven't chatted in a bit. But I mean, you know,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I think everybody deserves, you know, happiness, so I hope
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: this one sticks for him. I guess know. We asked
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: this question all the time on the podcast. Maybe you
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: can answer it for us. Nobody ever has been able
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: to how how how soon is too soon to move on? Okay,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: thank you. I'm glad that you asked that because that
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: is such a good question. Um. Yeah, I don't have
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: any answer to that. But I always think, you know,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: in these public relationships, like were they broken up for
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: a while before they actually said it in public? Like
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: we don't know the time. I don't think anybody really
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: knows the time except for them probably, Um, but I
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: don't know that. I mean, some people move on quicker
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: than others. Some people hold onto things that aren't there sometimes,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: so I think it really is already answer to that.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I have to say that, like putting myself in Chris
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: randone shoes and now Becca's shoes, both of those relationships
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: being public on it's like the new relationships being public
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: on Instagram so fast, Like it kind of makes me
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: feel like my thoughts immediately go to the X and
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, it feels too soon for me to
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: be watching this on Instagram. I can't imagine we're they're
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: at we root for the underdog. Yeah, I mean it
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: is hard, and I Chris. I don't know how long
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Chris and Crystal because again, who knows, you know when
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: they actually like, yeah, like they a little different. There's
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: more months there for sure, Yeah, for sure. But I
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: do agree like going public with it, I mean that
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: that is a lot sometimes going public with it pretty
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: soon after um, But I don't know, Like I said,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: everybody has their own timeline, and everybody if they feel
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: comfortable enough and they've moved past it, they moved on,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: then why he did? I guess too, unless you're thinking
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: of the other person. I don't know. It's it's hard
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: because you try and like there's so many people involved,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and you know, so many variables involved. In that situation
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: that it's hard to know which what is right and
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: what is wrong. Yeah, well, hey, best luck to Ben.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: What do you think do you think that is? Do
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: you think it was too fast? I don't know. I
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: mean I've been in this right, like I've been in
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: a public relationship and somebody moved on, and I don't
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: think I can even speak to the timeline. I just
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: know it hurts no matter what, Like I don't know,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: and it might hurt both people, like it might feel weird,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: not at first, but like I just know it hurts
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: and it's But I also think this it's the moment
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: that healing can start, because until then you're kind of
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: like this, like questioning what you know, is this something
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: that we should hold on to and we're ever going
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: to get back together? Hey I missed them or whatever?
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: And then once it like finally like you see them
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: like holding somebody else, the crescendo. Yeah. I think it's
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: like your you hit rock bottom and that can last
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: as long as you want, and then you can start
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: to heal. But again, like we're not getting any younger,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: nobody is ever um and so if you find somebody
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: that you're into and that you want to build a
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: life like a relationship with I don't know if there
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: is that timeline. It could happen the next day, it
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: could happen a couple of months. Um, never easy at all,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Like really, really I had I had a relationship the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: one right before I went on the show actually and
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: broke up, broke my heart and then within like two
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: weeks had another boyfriend and that hurt. And I didn't
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: even do that in public high Like I can't imagine
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: doing like what you did, Ben and what beggars to
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: about what's beck is going through right now, Like in
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the public eye, that would be would be another level.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: It's rough. Um, Okay, So we've talked about Becca uh
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Blake Uh. You and I get to see each other
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: quite a bit. We both live in Denver, we both
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: work out at F forty five here in Denver. Um.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I was just there before I got on the podcast. Today,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling like the best ship in my life. I mean,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm telling you and here's my problem though, I
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: stand next to you in there and we do box
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: jumps and you move the box jump like over to
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: the highest level and I'm still on the lowest level.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: And you're hopping up there. Um, so I stopped working
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: out the same time you did. I'd say I haven't
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: seen you in a while, but um, but that's not
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: what I want to talk to you about. Blake. You're
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: up to some stuff right now. Obviously, Covid kind of
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: shut down, um, your world in many ways. You were,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: you were traveling, you're a d J, you had some
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: gigs lined up. Covid stops that, but you've rolled into
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: this role of podcast host. Uh, tell us about it? Yeah,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean Covid definitely put a damper on
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: kind of what my year was gonna look like. I
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: had a lot of things set up as far as
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: like DJ sets had a residency in Atlantic City and
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: one in Vegas, and those obviously fell through. So um,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: we had planned kind of to start this podcast about
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: the Grizzly Roads, which is I mean, you've been been
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: a couple of times. I'm sure yeah you have. I
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: know I've been there with you. But um, it's a
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: local like honky Tonk kind of concert venue here in Denver,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: and we wanted to name it behind the Roads It's
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: called the Grizzly Roads, but then also have a play
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: on you know, reality television, Bachelor, all those kinds of things.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: And so we've been we're about gosh, close to two
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: months in right now, and it's fantastic. I love it.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I feel like every time interview somebody on that podcast,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I learned something new which I didn't expect, you know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: as the interviewer. You know. So it's been fun, it's
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: been great. We've had a lot of Bachard people on,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of musicians, um coaching musicians, and it's kind
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: of basically what we say is it's country music meets
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: pop culture is basically what this podcast is and do
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: with my buddy Eric Bradley and producer Eddie Haskell, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: we're killing. I love it. It's a it's a good time.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: It's something to do during quarantine, which is fantastic. It's
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: nice to find that they definitely is so okay. It's
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: so it's what country music meets pop culture? What is
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: some what is it? What's the topic in their headline
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: that you can use as an example? I mean so,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I mean I think we all know this target audience wise,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: the same people that watched the Bashlard usually our country
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: music fans. It's just like insane, like you guys not
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: not to say we're not often bombarded by fans when
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: we go to the mall. I you know, it's like
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: it can we can go months without being recognized sometimes,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: but you go to a country concert and all of
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: a sudden, you might be as popular as Keith Urban. Seriously,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I remember I'd say that with all humbleness, right right right,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: but yeah, more people like yeah, we'll come up to
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: you and ask her picture. They would like, yeah, the artist.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: You know, it's pretty crazy. So we knew that was
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: a thing, and so we kind of wanted to blend
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: because a lot of these country music artists also watched
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the show, so it's kind of a cool thing. Like
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: we just had Carlie Pierson and she's a huge fan
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: of so she want to reek beyond one of our
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: recap episodes, Um, I mean Dan and Shay. Like Dan
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: called me during Paradise to check in on me. He
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: was like, are you doing Yeah, So it's just cool
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: to to know that there's that, you know, cross the
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: audience really crosses. And I enjoy the podcast a lot
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: because I obviously it's become pretty big advocate with mental
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: health and so we talked about that a lot, whether
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: it be with people have been on the show or musicians,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: and the pressure and stresses of life on the road,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: of living in the public eye, of relationships in the
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: public eye, whether it be breaking up or getting together. Um,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: so I'm really enjoying that and seeing how everybody kind
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: of gets through those those you know, ups and downs
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: and the rock bottom and everything. So that's been an
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: eye opened it for me to see just how many
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: people have hit rock bottom and how they've gotten through it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: So that's been pretty exciting for me. One of our
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: hot topics was that Michelle Money says that Claire's of course,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I had to say, of course, because she's gotten so
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: much flak, like, you know, having a hard time. You know,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: she's everybody's desizing her, and well, I think she's doing
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: a fantastic job. But what would your what would your
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: advice be for her right now? And like, how do
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: you feel like she's handled being in the later all? Yeah,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I mean she's getting so much. We're three episodes in
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: the amount of criticism she's gotten. I can't believe. It's
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: it's absolutely insane, um and just how nazy it's I
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: understand criticism, but she's getting different kind of criticism. I
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: never really even Pete, like Pete had a rep season,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: and I don't feel like he even got it this
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: bad for the whole season. Um she's making like listen.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think she hasn't done herself any favors,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: you know, with the way the show has been you know,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: been showed. But the editing hasn't helped a lot. I mean,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I can't remember what I was talking to reason, It
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: was just Tia on our Potter Canda with somebody, but
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: they basically said, like, obviously they're gonna push this Dale
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: and Claire's story a lot, because what if they didn't
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: show their connection, didn't show how much she was into him,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden she runs off with
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: that'd be so awkward for us as a naughty like
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: what the hell just happened? So they're gonna play this up.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: They're gonna play up Dale and Claire and her only
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: being in him because they have too. Otherwise we'd be
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: so confused when she ran off with him, you know.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: So in that sense, I get the edit and the
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: kind of a narrative that they're doing, so I don't
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I don't. It's been rough for her. And I did
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: reach out to her and you know, and I said,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: keep your head up, you know, and she I think
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: she just gotta keep She's gonna stay on social media
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: first of all, say social media, um, and just keep
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: those you know close to her, her family, her friends
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: close and um gosh, take time for herself because right now,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: if I was her, I can't imagine like going through Twitter,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: you know, especially on like the actual nights of the show.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: And just stay on social media and hopefully, you know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: keep those the good ones close to you. That's what
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I told her. You get so excited for these airrings,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: like I I know, I remember any episode on mo on,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Like I get so excited, so like anxious and nervous.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Still if there's even like a small commercial amount or something,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: it just happens, like it's just part of the euphoria
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: of it all. And the letdown, I mean, I feel
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: for her because like the letdown had to be like drafted,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: like you said, it's not She's excited, she's pumped, she's
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: talking about how excited and then like the criticism has
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: been a ton and I mean it's not fair. I
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: don't think because, like you said, like that's a perfect point,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Like if she runs off with Dale in week four,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: we need to know that her and Dale were really
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: into each other, and like aren't we watching this show
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: still to like see people fall in love, Like isnt
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: that not? I mean, yes, we want to see the drama.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious. We want to have our wine and like,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: laugh at the character is great, laugh at us all
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: you want, But ultimately, if you find a love story,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: it's something to celebrate. And if we've lost that, we've
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: lost the show. And like she found love, we need
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: to celebrate it. I completely agree. And I think that,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: like you said, that's got to be hard for clear
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: right now because I've been going to this season after
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: it already filmed that she had left to know when
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: she seems I'm sure she's happy and everything. It seems
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: like she's probably so excited to watch her love story unfold,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: and now she's going to what she's going through right now,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: and nobody even cares now that they're in love and
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: that they're love stories. You know, how into her or
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: how into her he is, and how into him she is,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's it's hard because for some reason,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: she's getting this villainettit falling in love too great. People
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: are just like not having enough empathy for her in
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: my opinion, just like put yourself in her shoes and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: tell me you do anything differently. Yeah. Well, and then
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: there's there's there's always criticism of a leading like Ben,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you fell in love with two people? What? But then
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Claire decides who she wants falls in love and now
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: she's getting criticism for that. We can't I tell you
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: what though. One of my takes and one of the
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: things that encourages me before we let you go here, Blake,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: is uh. It seems like in in most recent memory,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the couples who have gone through the most criticism during
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: the season have made it. And I mentioned like Ari
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: and Lauren, like that was not an easy season to
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: go to Ferrari, they made it. They made it through,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: right Peter and Kelly like, yes, not didn't really work
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: out on the show, but like he was criticized for
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: that move. Everybody was against it, and then now look
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: everybody's celebrating it. So I mean, I think like when
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: it comes to this season, it's a make or break,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: like either you get really close as a couple and
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: you say, hey, I'm in it. I love you, and like,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I know this is hard, but I'm gonna sit by
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: you and we're gonna get through this together or it
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: breaks you, which I don't know it's a bad thing
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: because ultimately, you know that's not your partner. You know
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: it's not the person is gonna be with you through
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: thick and thin. So you know that's why I love
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Ari and Lawrence. I look at them like that cannot
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: have been easy. But now you have a kid and
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: you're happy and uh, and so we'll see. Yeah, I
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: just hope she's good. I agree with you. I think
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: sometimes if you can make it through these rough waters,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: and honestly, in Paradise you see it too because somebody
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: who come down the stairs, I'll go on a date.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: But if they can get through it, they finished Paradise
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: together a lot of times, you know, it works out,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: and so I think you just have each other to
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: lean on and it bonds you that much more. So. UM,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I hope they can make it through this, and I
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: think they will. Um, but yeah, we'll see. I guess
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for that reunion. Can't for the reason, Hey,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see like how they leave the show.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: We're going to his room and being like, hey, Um,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I'd like to get out of here, you want to
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: come with me? We're so good? All right, thank you
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, Blake again once again, I just want
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: to mention before we let you go here. Uh it
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: is behind the Rose Uh podcast. Blake Hurtzman and Eric
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Bradley host it. UM Blake, best of luck man, thanks
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: for coming on, um, and we'll watch your love story
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: unfolding with whoever that may be. Maybe eventually it's something everybody.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Thanks by Hey, just a warning for me to be
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: out there listening right now. In a second, we're going
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: to speak with Diana and there it's a great conversation,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: one that actually I really enjoyed having, and there's a
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: lot of insight into what it was like behind quarantine
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: and was like for Dinna to be on the show,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: and what happened with that date and why it never happened.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: But there's also a moment where there is a little
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: bit of a spoiler. I'll call it a little bit
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: of a spoiler because it does talk about Claire in
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Dale Um and if they're together or if they aren't together. Today.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Um So, just if you don't want to hear that,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: go ahead and fast forward through that piece. But if
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: you do want to hear it, it doesn't give too
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: much away. It's not gonna ruin anything, I don't think, um,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: but it is worth us mentioning that. Hey, if you
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: don't want to know anything, skip through it, alright. So
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: from one person who's just been viewing the show to
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: one person that has been there confirmed, who has seen
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Claire in love with Dale and having to navigate data
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: different men, let's get Dianna on the phone. Didn't get
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: to see enough, Diana, that's my that's my take. Too quick,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: too soon, that poor girl quarantine for four or five
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: days for like a thirty minute sit down conversation with
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Claire and went back, Oh, like this isn't fair. Okay, So, Dianna,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: you were there for date. Claire tells you, I can't
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: wait to see these guys. I can't wait for you
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: to meet these guys and get your feedback on them.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: And then the day never happened. Did you ever get
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: to meet these men? Um? I did not get to
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: meet any of the guys because of the date and
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: the fact that we didn't do it, and we only
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: filmed a girl chat. I did not get to meet
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: any of the guys, um, so I only got to
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: hear about them. And of course you guys saw in
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: the episode it looks like Claire only talks about Dale,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: but I legit heard about a lot of guys and
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: heard about her experience. We did not just talk about Dale.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: The uh my take from this whole episode was that
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: we didn't get to see enough of you, Like we
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: were all pumped to watch you host this day and
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: meet these guys, and it just kind of ended. Can
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: you give us a little backstory to your Like, I'm
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: imagining what was like a four day quarantine locked in
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: a hotel room to have like a what thirty minute
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: conversation where you disappointed? Where you sad? Ben? Really, I
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: was like the best mom living my COVID dreams in
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Palm Springs, except for it was like a hundred and
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: twenty degrees every single day, so that was the only downfall.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: But I got to stay in a hotel and get
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: a full night's sleep and being to watch TV in
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: order room service and drink wine for five days straight.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, I really think that I'm the one winning here. Yeah,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: it was really great, but um, I did have to
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: have three COVID tests, and since they had to have
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: three negative ones before I could even see anybody or
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: walk onto set. And since they were one of the
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: first shows that went back into production, they were not
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: messing around. They were not like like taking any chances.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: And the doctor that they have on set was really serious.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I she I am pretty sure like scraped as far
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: back in my neighbor haze of cavities as she possibly could.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I remember my nose was bleeding for like days. I
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: was so like just like rocked from the first nasal
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: swab that when she came back the next day, I
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: was like crying. I was like, please don't do that again.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah there, okay, so you don't get to meet the guys.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Claire cancels the date or the day portion of the date.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: My theory on this is that it was it supposed
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: to be an outdoor date and it was too hot,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: and so she like was forced to cancel it. Am
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I right? I like the way you're thinking, because my
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: hair and my makeup looked really good. You know. I
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: was all about Gina doing whatever she needed because it
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: was so great to just have someone do my hair
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: and makeup. But no, it was going to be inside
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: and there was gonna be plenty of air conditioning. Um.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: But in Claire's defense, it was a date that she
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: did not want to do because they had just done
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: the strip Dodgeball date. And she came to me and
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: she was like, honestly, I put these guys through this
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: crazy date the other day and they were really good
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: sports about it. But like the date that we were
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: going to do was kind of like a game show
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: and we were going to quiz them on like Women's
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Anatomy and stuff like that. And you know what, she
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: was like, I really don't need to have these guys
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: discussing like a vagina or tampons, Like I just really
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: want to get to know them and have real conversations,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: So I just don't want to do this. And I
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: was like, totally fine, totally fine. I'm already thinking about
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: what I'm ordering for dinner. I really like your attitude. This,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: You're actually like, this is so spot on because anybody
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I talked to you they have been in quarantine or
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: have gone on the show. Like most people love it
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: because it's like it's four days forced of just doing nothing,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: like you cannot do anything, and I can't imagine as
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: a mom, just how like awesome that was. Well, I'll
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: tell you what, Ben, I got to shower today alone
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: and wash my hair and that's as far as I got.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: And I'm doing well. I'm doing Diana, you kind of
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: have like an undercover bachelor love story. So you were
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: the bachelorrette in two thousand and eight, right, she doesn't it. Yeah,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: it's a really long time ago. It was a very
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: long time ago. You end up with, you know, an
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: engagement at the end, but you you didn't end up
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: with that bachelor related person. Can you let the audience
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: know how you met your husband one of the Stagliano twins.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I think we should. We should all be really thankful
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't end up with that guy, Like we should
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: all be very joyful and celebrating that because that was
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: a mess. It was a time in my life that
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I would love to forget. So anyway, unfortunately it's on TV,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: so you're not forgetting it. Michael Stagliano was on Jillian
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Harris's season of the Bachelorette, and that was the first
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: full season that I had ever watched, and I was
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: super excited to meet Michael, like in a weird way.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh my god, he's so cute. His
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: family is so great. I want to hang out with
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: all them and like go to their house for Christmas.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: And then within like two seconds of meeting Michael, I
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, no, this is never gonna work.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: But do you have like a brother littok similar, a
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: little bit hotter, a little bit more good looking, Like
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: can I just have him instead? And yeah, Michael and
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: I became friends and he ended up dating a friend
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: of mine and they introduced me to Stephen. And then
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: six weeks later I was like, I love him, money
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: to be with him forever. I was still in bachelor time,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I think, which is weird? That is awesome? Is it?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Is it weird now to know that you were attracted
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: to his brother first? Yes, because I also know Michael
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: so well. Now we're not looking at him like I
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: can't believe I ever thought that he was like the
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: one for a minute. It lasted for just like one minute,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: literally one minute, but Michael had the exact same feeling.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: As soon as we met each other in person, we
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: were literally like oh yeah, no, no, hard pass hard pass. Well,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: that's great. See, you wouldn't be married and have the
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: kids that you do today if it weren't for you
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: being the bachelorette. I know, I know. So I always
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: joke and say that the outcome of my season it
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: really was like a difficult time. And I think God
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: that back then, you know us Weekly was not like
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: hanging out in the backwoods of noon and Georgia, because
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I really could live off the grid after the show.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: And I always felt bad for you know, contestants, people
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: who are on the show now because it is not
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the same, you know, like you guys are really put
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: through the ringer and the tabloids and with social media
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: and everything else. I didn't have to go through that,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: So I was able to go through this really nasty
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: breakup somewhat privately other than that privateby YouTube video that's
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: still out there, But other than that, I was able
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: to do this like alone and in the privacy of
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: my own home. So um, I'm thankful for that piece.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Now you are friends with Claire, So how is she
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: doing today? Oh my gosh. Uh. Actually we sent her
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: some flowers today because poor Claire Man, she has been
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: put through the ringer and I think anybody who's been
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: on the show and the two of you can relate
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: to this that it is hard and and she's just
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: been put through the ringer, and the things that people
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: are saying about her and about her life and stuff
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: online like can just be really hurtful. And um, so
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I just felt bad for her because I feel like
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: in a period of time where this should be really
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: joyful for her and this should be a really great
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: experience and probably one of the most exciting things that
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: she'll go through, it has not been that for her.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: And on most days she's feeling really down about the
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: things that people are saying about her online and the
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: editing of the show. So, um, actually, the girls and
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I we all sent her some flowers today just let
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: her know that, like we love her and this is
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: a blip, Like this will all be done, you know,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: it'll be done. What every week outcome is tomorrow night, Right,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: She's gonna walk away and she's gonna be able to
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: move on and hopefully have someone that she genuinely loves
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: and can be with and and people will forget about this.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: They'll move on. Apparently Tasa will be the next bachelorette.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: So you know, hopefully this is a blip in what
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: just seems like a different, difficult time for her. We
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: were just talking about that with Blake Courtsmy before you
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: came on. But how this is like such a high,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: right you wait months for this to air, and you're
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: so excited for people to see your love story and
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: to celebrate with you and just be involved in your life.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: And then and I know, you know, it's still exciting
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: because now millions of people watch Claire and like that's
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: this cool thing. But when that turns and it's millions
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: of people watch you and it feels like the world
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: is criticizing you. It's such a fall drop from grace
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: that like it has to hurt, and like I imagine
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: she just feels super lonely right now because there's really
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: nobody else that in the world that can relate. Like
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: nobody can relate. I'm literally trying to reach out to
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: her on a daily basis, even if she doesn't text back,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: and just say like, hey, I'm thinking about you, I'm
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: praying for you. Just know that this is almost over.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Like you're doing great, You're doing great. I'm trying to
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: be a cheerleader because I feel like she has so
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: many cards stacked against her. And something that I think
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: is so interesting is that when they announced Claire as
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: the bachelorette, everybody was like, Yes, finally a thirty nine
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: year old woman who knows exactly what she wants and
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: she's not messing around and she's not gonna take any
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: bs for an answer, right, Except now there's so many
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: people online who are shaming this thirty nine year old
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: woman who's not taking bs and who knows exactly what
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: she wants, and now people are hating on her for
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: that exact thing that we were praising her for in
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: the very beginning, which I think just sucks, Like it
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: just sucks. It does well, Uh, we're wishing Claire the best,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know, like do you wish that
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: just just goes away? Because that feels sad too, Like, Oh,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: this like blip in my life that was super exciting
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: that I was so pumped for, that I quarantined for
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: and waited for and got pushed back on. Now we
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: just at kind of like all hoping it. Let's just
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: like let it go now for Claire and we can
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: move on. Like that seems sad too, It really does, like, like,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: in the full circle of things, you want to see
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: people be happy for her, and you want them to
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: be happy for the love story, and you want them
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: to be her, you know, cheering her on. But I
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: just don't know what that's going to happen, which is right,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: that's just such a bummer. But Claire does like to
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: like kind of go back to her regular life. Do
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: you am I wrong in thinking that? Like she just
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: wants to a Dale in the privacy of her own
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Sacramento circle, and she's happy with that. She doesn't need
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: any more attention. Yeah, I think that's a pretty good
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: safe thing to say. Like, um, I've had the luxury
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: of since we filmed seeing Claire and and getting to
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: chat with Dale. And you know, Steve and I just
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: ranted nine years of marriage, so we have definitely weathered
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: some storms, ups and downs and stuff throughout the years.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: But what I tried to encourage Claire with is that
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: hopefully some really great things will come out of this,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: hopefully some really great opportunities, right, I mean, look at
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: you too. What I encouraged them both to do is
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: definitely enjoy the ride, take the opportunities, because these things
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: will you know, they'll forever change the way their lives
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: go and and to love it and enjoy it, but
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: also to nurture and and and take care of what
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: they have. So I think that that would make her
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: so happy to just be in Sacramento and to live
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: her life and and live her love story with Dale.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: And she's totally fine with that. She's waited a really
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, well again, worship the best. Now, this
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: is a good moment for us to talk about something
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: extremely important because you're you're doing it right now. Uh,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: we have an election coming up that everybody uh that
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: can and is able should go vote for your in
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: line right now getting ready to vote. Uh, just say, hey,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: awesome on you. I know you're waiting doing this podcast
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: as you're in line because it's not super you know,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: easy to get a vote in right now. But just
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: get out there and vote, everybody, Amen, get out there
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: and vote. I'm really really like worried, I am losing
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: sleep over the state of our nation right now. So
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: it is I don't you know, it is so important
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: to vote. It is so important to vote. Yeah, definitely,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: you gotta put your voice out there. So Hey, Diana,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. Thanks for talking to us. Um.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: We want to see more of you, more of you.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe we will on a show in the future, but
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: until then, rest up, shower up, do everything you need
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: to do as a mom to feel victorious, awesome. Thank
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: you guys, have a good day. Bye, Thanks a lot.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: All right, Ben, Well, as the time is running out here,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: it is time for my favorite news segment, which is
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: we didn't name it, but it's story weird stories. Yeah,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: storytime with Ben weird near death or very embarrassing stories
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: that have happened in Ben's life that are not broached
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: in alone and plain sighte his new book. But you know,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: but you know, they almost let's say they were almost
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: at it. They were aunorable mentions in the book. That's
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: the thing. They are hounorable mentions in the book. Didn't
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: dive into them, so we're gonna dive into them here
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: on the almost in his podcast, this is the quote
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: from the book. There was a time a cop delivered
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: a trunk stuffed full of toilet paper. After you've got
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: into a car wreck on your way, Okay, got it.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: So this cop discovered that you had a trunk full
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: of toilet paper while you were on your way to
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: toilet paper a friend's house. Yeah, so you know the
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: funny part about storytime with Ben is there's gonna be
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: some stories that come up, um in the future that
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: are super intimate and super vulnerable. And I laugh at
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: the idea of hearing him and I never know what
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: story Ashley is gonna pull out. So this is always
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: off the cuff, always a little nerve racking. Um se
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: very exciting. So anyways, here's the story. I was sixteen
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: years old. I had just got in my first car.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: It was a Honda Civic I got I bought it
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: from my grandfather, who was a car salesman. Great, great dude.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: He has now passed away. But um, I had had
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: it just a few months and I was the only
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: one in my friend group that could drive, and so
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I was always driving them around doing the most ridiculous things.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Is like a freshman sophomore in high school. Well, one
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: of those things that we enjoyed doing was keeping our
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: friend's houses, um, because there's just a lot of fun
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: to see their parents have to put into all the
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: words to clean up the trees. Like now that I
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: think about this at this age, if somebody teeping my
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: house I'd be so angry, like you'd be the angry
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: old man. I'd be so mad, just with the idea that, hey,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: my Sunday football watching and bourbon drinking is now ruined
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: by my stupid high school kids friends keeping my house. Anyways,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: uh So on a Friday night, uh we went out
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: after a football game and just loaded up with toilet paper.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not kidding you are. My Honda Civic
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: trunk was stuffed full, like to the point I remember
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: having to push it down to get it like pushed in.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: So we go out in this drive. We're driving on
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: the road and I'm just a few months into driving,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: and I was a very irresponsible driver at that point.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: I have not been in a car Wrex since knock
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: on Wood. Um. But I was driving and I looked
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: over my friend in the passenger seat and I was
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: talking to him, and I looked back in front of me,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: and a lady had stopped to turn into a y
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: M c A and I put my brakes on and
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: it just wasn't soon enough and I had just completely
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: rear ended her um and so she was actually turning
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: in to see her mom, who was working at the
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: y M. C A. So we turned into the parking lot.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: My car is completely totaled, like the front is just
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: smashed up, and like her back of her car is
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: smashed like this is not like a fender binder, this
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: is a wreck. And and I'm feeling terrible. My parents
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: are actually at a funeral at that point in time,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: and so and I have to call them at his
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: funeral and asked him to come get me. Well, when
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: they come get me, uh, the cop had just opened
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: up the trunk and because they were searching my car.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I don't really remember why they were fully searching my car, um,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: but they were searching my car, probably given the fact
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: that like I was an idiot and I was sixteen,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: and they're like, this guy definitely is up to something.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: And inside the trunk, I'm not kidding you, is all
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: that toilet paper and it just explodes like out of
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: the car, all over the parking lot. Um. And uh,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: the lady was nice enough to not like do any
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: further uh stuff with me, even though it was my fault. Um.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: But I'll never forget the time that my parents pulled
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: up already angry out of the funeral. A little bit
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: sad because it was a friend of theirs to the
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: parking lot looking at me as I stand behind my
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: car with a cop looking into my trunk, and the
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: whole parking lot around my car is full of toilet paper.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: That is as a time in my life that I
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: won't forget. That's good. That's good that they asked that
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: the cop. The cop was like, so you were about
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: to go to paper somebody's house. I mean, I think
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: it's it was a given. Like, I don't I don't think.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question that I needed. I mean, like, hey,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I am a healthy eater, um, but I don't think
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: there was any questions I needed drunk bullet toilet paper. Okay, alright,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: good one. Alright, guys, Well we'll be back later this week.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: We're gonna we're going to record on Friday after we
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: get some fan reaction to the big event on Thursday night.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: So we'll talk to you guys then. Hey, with that,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: I've been been, I've been Ashley. We'll talk to you later, guys.
• 58:29
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