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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I'm missing five year old
- 0:10Speaker 1: girl presumably in danger, little Malia Davis, her stepfather, Darien Vince.
- 0:16Speaker 1: His story to police details a violent attack and a
- 0:18Speaker 1: twenty four hour period where he was not conscious. It
- 0:21Speaker 1: begins Friday evening around nine. Vince tells police he was
- 0:24Speaker 1: headed to pick up Malia's mother from Bush Airport. He
- 0:27Speaker 1: says he pulled over near fifty nine and Greens to
- 0:29Speaker 1: check what he thought was a flat tire. Vince told
- 0:32Speaker 1: detectives three Hispanic men pulled up in a blue Chevy
- 0:34Speaker 1: pickup chuck to Hispanic males get out. One of them
- 0:38Speaker 1: makes a comment saying that Malia looks very nice, looks
- 0:42Speaker 1: very sweet. The other male hits Darien in the head.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Vince says he was knocked unconscious and the next twenty
- 0:50Speaker 1: four hours he recalls nothing you're hearing from our friends
- 0:53Speaker 1: at KATRKTV. That was Courtney Fisher describing the abduction of
- 1:00Speaker 1: a little girl, Malia Davis. I Meanancy Grace, this is
- 1:04Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. You know,
- 1:06Speaker 1: just right off the bat, I find that very very
- 1:10Speaker 1: difficult to take him that you're at a parking lot
- 1:13Speaker 1: and out of the blue. Two guys approach. I don't
- 1:17Speaker 1: really get a good description of them except you can
- 1:20Speaker 1: point out their ethnicity. And they hit you in the head.
- 1:24Speaker 1: How did you get in the position to be hitting
- 1:26Speaker 1: the head? How'd that happen? But anyway, hitting the head?
- 1:29Speaker 1: Wake up twenty four hours later and your baby is gone.
- 1:36Speaker 1: Let's just start right there. All star panel joining me today.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Doctor Chris Berry, chief medical examiner, former for State of Georgia.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Randy Kessler, renowned defense attorney and Emory Law School trial professor,
- 1:51Speaker 1: Doctor Jolie Silva clinical forensic psychologists working from the New
- 1:55Speaker 1: York Family Courts. John Limley, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter.
- 1:59Speaker 1: And Joe Scott Morgan forensics expert, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University,
- 2:04Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet. John Lemley, help me
- 2:08Speaker 1: out here, tell me exactly what he says happens. Well.
- 2:12Speaker 1: The stepfather, Darien Vince says that, as we've heard, around
- 2:16Speaker 1: nine pm on Friday, this is May third, he was
- 2:20Speaker 1: driving from his home in Sugarland, Texas to the Bush
- 2:24Speaker 1: Intercontinental Airport in Houston. In the car with him his stepdaughter,
- 2:28Speaker 1: Malia Davis, and his son Courtland. They were off to
- 2:32Speaker 1: pick up Malia's mom, who was arriving on a flight
- 2:35Speaker 1: from Massachusetts. The trip is right at one hour if
- 2:40Speaker 1: you take the Sam Houston Tollway from Sugarland. Darian says, okay,
- 2:45Speaker 1: stop right there, Limley. As much as I appreciate the
- 2:48Speaker 1: intricate detail of various airports, I'm trying to find out
- 2:51Speaker 1: about the little girl, all right, So just gimme the
- 2:53Speaker 1: nuts and bolts. Protests certainly well. Darion says they were
- 2:57Speaker 1: well on their way when he heard this popping sound.
- 3:00Speaker 1: He thought they might have a flat tire, so he
- 3:02Speaker 1: pulled over and got out of the car. This is
- 3:05Speaker 1: when he said. Two men in a blue pickup truck
- 3:08Speaker 1: rolled up, and while one was making comments about Malia
- 3:13Speaker 1: about how nice and sweet she was, the other guy
- 3:17Speaker 1: knocked him out, and when he opened his eyes, Darien says,
- 3:20Speaker 1: he was in the back of the truck with the
- 3:22Speaker 1: two children and three Okay, wait, wait, wait, he's in
- 3:26Speaker 1: the back of their truck. There's the children and three men. Correct,
- 3:31Speaker 1: so he's been put in somebody else's truck. Believe it's
- 3:35Speaker 1: the same truck, the same blue Chevy pickup truck. Let
- 3:39Speaker 1: me understand he's in their truck, no longer in his vehicle. Yes, no, yes,
- 3:43Speaker 1: his vehicle. He doesn't know where it is at this point. Okay,
- 3:46Speaker 1: So he wakes up and did he say twenty four
- 3:48Speaker 1: hours later? Twenty one hours to be specific. So he
- 3:52Speaker 1: was knocked out for almost a day, almost, he says.
- 3:55Speaker 1: He goes in and out of consciousness for hours and hours,
- 3:58Speaker 1: doesn't know where he is, and six pm on Saturday, Okay,
- 4:02Speaker 1: he must have been wearing a watch. To doctor Chris Sperry,
- 4:04Speaker 1: retired Chief Medical Examiner, doctor Sperry, what kind of a
- 4:07Speaker 1: blow to the head would cause you to be knocked
- 4:09Speaker 1: out for twenty one hours? Well, it's the kind of
- 4:12Speaker 1: blow to the head that is extremely severe. In other words,
- 4:16Speaker 1: I would expect elaceration of the scalp at least. Frankly,
- 4:20Speaker 1: I would expect a skull fracture and underlying brain injuries.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Something that is so severe that it would put you
- 4:26Speaker 1: in the hospital and it would be very noticeable. But
- 4:30Speaker 1: you know, without that kind of trauma, without that kind
- 4:34Speaker 1: of injury involving the scalp, the skull and the brain,
- 4:38Speaker 1: there is nothing that's going to render you an adult
- 4:41Speaker 1: mail unconscious for twenty one hours. And doctor Sperry, I
- 4:44Speaker 1: don't know if you remember this way way way when
- 4:47Speaker 1: I was still prosecuting felonies and my nephew was in
- 4:50Speaker 1: a crash, and you and I talked and talked and
- 4:55Speaker 1: talked and talked about skull fractures, swelling of the brain,
- 5:02Speaker 1: what does it mean? And I'm happy to report you
- 5:06Speaker 1: know you live through that dark, dark time with me.
- 5:08Speaker 1: And just so you know, he went on to get
- 5:13Speaker 1: a double major in IT and biology and now is
- 5:17Speaker 1: an IT troubleshooter for a big company. I mean, so
- 5:21Speaker 1: you can make a major comeback from a big blow
- 5:24Speaker 1: like that. But in this case, based on what Sperry,
- 5:28Speaker 1: Chris Sperry's telling me, I would expect to see major
- 5:31Speaker 1: skull fracture and lacerations to knock you out for twenty
- 5:35Speaker 1: one hours. Hey, take a listen to kat r KTV
- 5:38Speaker 1: Corney Fletcher PM Saturday, A surveillance and and shows Vince's
- 5:41Speaker 1: car in Sugarland six pm Saturday. Vince sells police he
- 5:45Speaker 1: woke up on the side of Highway six near the
- 5:47Speaker 1: Sugarland Mall, his one year old son with him, but nomalia.
- 5:51Speaker 1: He tells police he tried to fly down cars for help,
- 5:53Speaker 1: but had no luck. Just before eleven PM is when
- 5:56Speaker 1: police say he needed a Methodist hospital less than a
- 5:59Speaker 1: mile from where he says he was dropped off. We're
- 6:01Speaker 1: looking for it. We're hoping the public and years any
- 6:03Speaker 1: information about anybody who has seen Darien during that period
- 6:07Speaker 1: of time, because he doesn't really know where he was
- 6:09Speaker 1: or what's going on there. Anybody who's seen the vehicle,
- 6:11Speaker 1: the silver Nissan. Doesn't know where he is. Okay, he's
- 6:17Speaker 1: one mile away. Isn't that what they just said? John Limley,
- 6:21Speaker 1: he's one mile away, he doesn't know where he is.
- 6:23Speaker 1: How can that be correct? He hadn't They hadn't made
- 6:26Speaker 1: much journey on their trip already. You know, as I said,
- 6:30Speaker 1: this was an hour long trip and they were maybe
- 6:32Speaker 1: a couple of minutes into the trip according to his story.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Well he's a mile away. Yeah, I mean, I'm just
- 6:37Speaker 1: I'm just trying to compare this to what I know
- 6:39Speaker 1: to be true. And I'm basing in on what I
- 6:41Speaker 1: think my dad would have done if guys that come
- 6:44Speaker 1: up and started talking about how pretty and sweet I was,
- 6:47Speaker 1: and I'm a tiny little girl. I don't know, I'm
- 6:51Speaker 1: comparing this guy to the goal standard. So let me
- 6:56Speaker 1: get back to what we know. To doctor Joey Silva
- 6:59Speaker 1: joining me, forensic psychologist, Doctor Silva, explain to me what
- 7:03Speaker 1: would cause a memory loss like this. I mean, if
- 7:05Speaker 1: it was a severe um trauma to the head where
- 7:09Speaker 1: he had traumatic brain injury after that. But I mean,
- 7:13Speaker 1: you know, it just doesn't I mean, he was coherent.
- 7:16Speaker 1: App it seems like he was coherent after the fact.
- 7:19Speaker 1: He doesn't seem to have any of associated memory losses
- 7:24Speaker 1: um that would be indicative to it to a real
- 7:27Speaker 1: severe TBI traumatic brain injury. It just it just doesn't
- 7:32Speaker 1: add up to be knocked out for that long from
- 7:35Speaker 1: a blue object to the head and then you know,
- 7:39Speaker 1: be able to have conversations after that, be able to
- 7:42Speaker 1: kind of get up function. You know, it just doesn't
- 7:45Speaker 1: add up that he that he would have such severe
- 7:47Speaker 1: memory loss. I've got a lot, a lot of questions
- 7:51Speaker 1: and things are definitely not as they same. Here is
- 7:55Speaker 1: John Marshall at khou Derrion. Vince told investigators he was
- 7:59Speaker 1: driving to book Intercontinental Airport to pick up Malia's mom.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Vince says Malia and his two year old son were
- 8:05Speaker 1: in the car while near Highway fifty nine in greens Road,
- 8:09Speaker 1: Vince told police he heard a noise and pulled over
- 8:11Speaker 1: to check his tire. While outside the car, he says
- 8:14Speaker 1: two men pulled up in a blue Chevy pickup. One
- 8:17Speaker 1: of them makes a comment saying that Malia looks very nice,
- 8:20Speaker 1: looks very sweet. Then says one of the men hit
- 8:23Speaker 1: him in the head and he lost consciousness. Friday night,
- 8:26Speaker 1: Malia's mother had to call someone else to pick her
- 8:29Speaker 1: up when Vince and the children never showed up. Sometime
- 8:32Speaker 1: between Friday night or Saturday, Vin says he woke up
- 8:35Speaker 1: and was in the back of the pickup with both children,
- 8:38Speaker 1: but three men were also in the car. He told
- 8:41Speaker 1: police he passed out again and woke up at six
- 8:43Speaker 1: pm Saturday near Highway six and fifty nine in Sugarland.
- 8:47Speaker 1: His son was with him. Malia was gone right now.
- 8:55Speaker 1: We're ouside of Methodist Hospital in Sugarland. This is where
- 8:58Speaker 1: police say her stepfather, Darien Vince, showed up yesterday night
- 9:02Speaker 1: just before eleven pm with his one year old son,
- 9:05Speaker 1: no Malia. He told detectives here that they had been
- 9:08Speaker 1: abducted on Friday night when they run their way to
- 9:11Speaker 1: the airport to pick up his wife, Malia's mother. He
- 9:14Speaker 1: says he got out to check on what he believed
- 9:16Speaker 1: was a flat tire, and that is when he was
- 9:17Speaker 1: approached by three Hispanic males in a blue Chevy pickup truck.
- 9:21Speaker 1: He says that he was hit on the head and
- 9:22Speaker 1: that's when he believes he's fell unconscious. Now, the next
- 9:25Speaker 1: twenty four hours, there's a major gap that police are
- 9:27Speaker 1: hoping that you can help figure them out if you
- 9:29Speaker 1: happen to see Darien in this blue pickup truck, happened
- 9:32Speaker 1: to see the babies or these three Hispanic males that
- 9:34Speaker 1: he says abducted them. They want to hear from you
- 9:37Speaker 1: for twenty four hours, he says he doesn't know what happened. Yesterday.
- 9:40Speaker 1: He says that he woke up near the Sugarland Mall,
- 9:43Speaker 1: which is only about a mile from Methodist Hospital here
- 9:46Speaker 1: around six pm. He says that he tried to wave
- 9:48Speaker 1: down cars for help. No one helped, so he walked here.
- 9:52Speaker 1: He got here before eleven pm, and that is where
- 9:54Speaker 1: the story picks up again. You are hearing the very
- 9:56Speaker 1: latest that is from KTRKTV. Stefani a coolie. Now the
- 10:01Speaker 1: search from Maliah Davis is on to John Limley, Crime
- 10:06Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter, tell me about the search
- 10:09Speaker 1: for the little girl. The search immediately started around this area.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Where what area? The area where Vince said he came
- 10:20Speaker 1: to with his son. Corse is what you know what,
- 10:24Speaker 1: I'm a JD, not a DDS. I'm not good at
- 10:26Speaker 1: pulling teeth, So just tell me. Where's the area Malie
- 10:30Speaker 1: goes missing? Where did this go down? This is around
- 10:33Speaker 1: Highway six, about a mile from the hospital where he
- 10:36Speaker 1: takes the child. Okay, let me be more specific. What
- 10:41Speaker 1: city and state we're in, Sugarland, Texas where the family
- 10:46Speaker 1: actually lives. Is that near Houston? It is about an
- 10:49Speaker 1: hour away from Okay, there you go hour outside of Houston.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Keep going. And so they began fanning out from the
- 10:55Speaker 1: area where he said he came to with his son.
- 10:59Speaker 1: They again cutting away brush and looking for anything they
- 11:04Speaker 1: can find that will point them towards where the car
- 11:08Speaker 1: has gone and where Malia has gone. Let's start right there.
- 11:11Speaker 1: Joe Scott Morgan's joining me, forensics expert author of Blood
- 11:14Speaker 1: Beneath My Feet. Joe Scott, when you've got a vehicle,
- 11:17Speaker 1: you got a problem. Because that child is going sixty
- 11:20Speaker 1: miles an hour at best if she makes it okay,
- 11:25Speaker 1: So cops are off on the search for this vehicle.
- 11:29Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you remember this the
- 11:31Speaker 1: case of the Runaway Bride, the real case, not the
- 11:35Speaker 1: movie with Julia Roberts. What was her name, Jennifer, Jennifer?
- 11:39Speaker 1: Can you look that up? New intern Runaway Bride, Georgia Jennifer.
- 11:43Speaker 1: Somebody she blamed her air quote, assault and kidnap on
- 11:48Speaker 1: three Hispanics? Why is it always three Hispanics? Although Susan
- 11:52Speaker 1: Smith did blame an African American male, and when that
- 11:57Speaker 1: came out, I happened to be sitting next to my
- 11:59Speaker 1: trial part Hermann Sloan, now a judge by the way,
- 12:02Speaker 1: he's gone on to greatness, and he looked just like
- 12:06Speaker 1: the composite Susan Smith drew of the guy that allegedly
- 12:11Speaker 1: took her children. So I've been very, very leery of
- 12:16Speaker 1: composites when mommy or daddy's story doesn't hold together from me.
- 12:21Speaker 1: So this time it's three Hispanic mails he can't really identify,
- 12:26Speaker 1: and a pickup. So what do you do? The child's gone?
- 12:30Speaker 1: Oh it was Jennifer Wilbanks, Thank you, thank you. Okay,
- 12:33Speaker 1: back to the search for the vehicle. What do you do,
- 12:36Speaker 1: Joe Scott, Well, we work, you know, we work in
- 12:40Speaker 1: crom scene investigation in linear time. There is a moment
- 12:43Speaker 1: in time when something horrible happens that summons all of
- 12:47Speaker 1: us investigators to the scene. And at that moment time,
- 12:51Speaker 1: as we moved down that timeline, we're getting further and
- 12:54Speaker 1: further out. You mentioned a car just a second, Nancy,
- 12:57Speaker 1: as that car, let's just say a car is involved.
- 13:00Speaker 1: It's moving further out in time. Time is bleeding off
- 13:04Speaker 1: the clock. It's getting further and further away, So the
- 13:07Speaker 1: search area has to expand that's why the police are
- 13:10Speaker 1: so frenetically searching for this child further out in time.
- 13:13Speaker 1: She's moving away, moving away, and they have this awareness
- 13:16Speaker 1: about it, and it creates a major problem, particularly when
- 13:19Speaker 1: you've got all of these actors involved in this that
- 13:22Speaker 1: this guy is claiming that are involved in this case.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Has this child inspirited away to another town, to another state,
- 13:30Speaker 1: or to another country. So Randy Kessler, the dad in
- 13:33Speaker 1: this case, the dad in this case, Vince Okay, Darien
- 13:38Speaker 1: Vince stepdad by the way, stepfather only reports to child
- 13:43Speaker 1: Maliah missing twenty four hours in if we take his
- 13:47Speaker 1: word on the timeline, so twenty four hours have already
- 13:50Speaker 1: been lost. He's at a hospital about his own injuries,
- 13:55Speaker 1: and that's when he goes, oh, yeah, my daughter, my stepdaughter, Maliah, Yeah,
- 14:02Speaker 1: she was kidnapped. See I've got a problem with that, Randy. Yeah. Well,
- 14:05Speaker 1: I know you don't like to have anybody the benefit
- 14:07Speaker 1: of the data, especially someone who's accused of a crime.
- 14:09Speaker 1: But you know, if he's got a brain injury and
- 14:10Speaker 1: he's been hit in the head, that accounts for a
- 14:12Speaker 1: lot of why he might have done the right thing
- 14:14Speaker 1: the right time, in a timely way, especially if he
- 14:16Speaker 1: was unconscious for the first twenty one hours. Okay, all right,
- 14:19Speaker 1: I hear that. Thence the stepfather claims three men in
- 14:23Speaker 1: a pickup truck pulled up, knocked him out, kidnapped him,
- 14:27Speaker 1: Malia and his one year old son, before they eventually
- 14:31Speaker 1: allowed him and the boy to go free. He then
- 14:35Speaker 1: reports to the alleged kidnap at a hospital Saturday night,
- 14:39Speaker 1: explaining he had been in and out of consciousness for
- 14:42Speaker 1: twenty four hours. Now, what can you tell me, John
- 14:46Speaker 1: Limley about the condition of his vehicle didn't at all
- 14:50Speaker 1: start when he had car trouble or a flat or
- 14:52Speaker 1: something like that. He said that he heard a popping sound.
- 14:55Speaker 1: He thought it might be a flat tire. But eventually
- 14:58Speaker 1: that vehicle is found, not a scratch on it and
- 15:01Speaker 1: no flat tires. Well, can you tell me about any
- 15:04Speaker 1: security footage that may show me when and how the
- 15:07Speaker 1: car arrived in a lot? What was it doing in
- 15:10Speaker 1: a lot? By the way, good question. The vehicle was
- 15:13Speaker 1: taken to the Houston Police Department for for forensics test.
- 15:18Speaker 1: Detectives are looking for surveillance video from a shopping mall
- 15:22Speaker 1: in a nearby Walmart store. The vehicle is a silver
- 15:25Speaker 1: Nissan Ultima and it was found Thursday morning in this
- 15:30Speaker 1: parking lot of a shopping mall in Missouri City, Texas.
- 15:34Speaker 1: This is just outside of Sugarland. Very disappointing. Malia was
- 15:39Speaker 1: not in the car, No one was around it. An
- 15:42Speaker 1: employee of a taxi cab company is actually the one
- 15:45Speaker 1: that spotted the car in the parking lot and called police. Well,
- 15:48Speaker 1: we do know this, We do know he had visible injuries,
- 15:52Speaker 1: Cops saying something quote clearly happened to him. According to him,
- 15:56Speaker 1: he was driving with Malia and his son was that
- 15:58Speaker 1: his bio son, John Limley was at his bioson and
- 16:02Speaker 1: his stepdaughter. Yes, his bioson and stepdaughter, and authorities have
- 16:07Speaker 1: not been able to or will not release information on
- 16:12Speaker 1: whether Malia's mom and her stepfather are married. Take a
- 16:17Speaker 1: listen to the timeline as we knew it at the time.
- 16:19Speaker 1: Vence says he walked down the road to Methodist Hospital,
- 16:22Speaker 1: where he was treated for a head injury and reported
- 16:24Speaker 1: Malia missing nearly twenty four hours after the alleged assault
- 16:29Speaker 1: that left Vence unconscious. I realize there's a lot of
- 16:32Speaker 1: blanks in that story, but we're open on the public
- 16:33Speaker 1: can filling the blanks. Sunday morning, Malia's case became an
- 16:37Speaker 1: Amber alert. That afternoon, traffic cameras spotted Vince's silver car
- 16:41Speaker 1: in sugar Land, near where the family and friends handed
- 16:44Speaker 1: out flyers, followed by search and recovery groups starting their
- 16:48Speaker 1: work Monday morning. You're hearing our friend Josh Marshall there
- 16:51Speaker 1: at khoutv Okay, I've got an issue, John Limley. I
- 16:56Speaker 1: understand that he first tells cops. He wakes up on
- 16:58Speaker 1: the side of the road six pm Saturday evening, next
- 17:02Speaker 1: to his son. I thought you told me he woke
- 17:05Speaker 1: up in the back of the Hispanic Males pickup. His
- 17:08Speaker 1: story is that he wakes up sporadically. He's in and
- 17:12Speaker 1: out of consciousness throughout that long twenty one hour period,
- 17:17Speaker 1: and one of the first things he remembers after the
- 17:21Speaker 1: initial incident where the pickup drives up and the men
- 17:26Speaker 1: get out, is he's in the back of the truck
- 17:28Speaker 1: with his son, Courtland and Malia. He says, is there
- 17:33Speaker 1: as well at that first point when he comes to consciousness.
- 17:37Speaker 1: But then when he wakes up six pm on Saturday,
- 17:41Speaker 1: the sun's there, but Malia's gone. Doctor Chris Sperry, retired
- 17:46Speaker 1: Chief Medical Examiner, Doctor Sperry, let me understand what you're
- 17:50Speaker 1: telling me about a head injury. So now he's waking
- 17:53Speaker 1: up in various places, he says, he wakes up in
- 17:57Speaker 1: the pickup with the children there. Now he's telling me,
- 18:01Speaker 1: he wakes up on the side of the road and
- 18:03Speaker 1: manages to walk to the hospital. What does this mean,
- 18:06Speaker 1: Doctor Sperry? Is it physically possible what he's saying. No,
- 18:11Speaker 1: that's not physically possible. I mean, quite honestly, what he's
- 18:14Speaker 1: describing sounds like the plot of a very lousy TV show.
- 18:19Speaker 1: It's the kind of thing that people see on television,
- 18:22Speaker 1: but it doesn't happen in real life and individuals and
- 18:27Speaker 1: if they sustain a severe traumatic brain injury, a severe
- 18:30Speaker 1: head injury, they're going to be unconscious and stay that way.
- 18:33Speaker 1: But this lapsing in and out of consciousness and remembering
- 18:39Speaker 1: certain things very clearly but having large caps, that that's
- 18:44Speaker 1: conscious Climb Stories with Nancy Grace. Within the last ninety minutes,
- 19:01Speaker 1: the search for Malia Davis shifted more than thirty miles
- 19:04Speaker 1: away to southwest Houston, near Kirkwood and Vicinaty. We are
- 19:09Speaker 1: in trouble. Bottom line, we're in trouble. Of course. I
- 19:13Speaker 1: believe in miracles, and we've had in many of them.
- 19:18Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to have a good ending.
- 19:20Speaker 1: I hopefully have an enemy. The group helping Houston police
- 19:23Speaker 1: look for the missing four year old girl is Texas Equisearch.
- 19:26Speaker 1: Their leader Tim Miller says they repositioned close to where
- 19:30Speaker 1: the stepfather, Daryan Vince calls home. We hope Mark calls
- 19:34Speaker 1: come in. It's leading us in different corrections. We hope
- 19:37Speaker 1: the investigation is going to lead us, sir, and it's
- 19:43Speaker 1: it's all about her. You're hearing our friend Tim Miller,
- 19:46Speaker 1: the head of Texas Equisearch. He became devoted to finding
- 19:50Speaker 1: missing children when his own daughter was kidnapped and murdered.
- 19:55Speaker 1: Texas Equisearch joining the search for Malia. Back to John Linley,
- 19:59Speaker 1: crime line dot Com investigative reporter and Joe Scott Morgan,
- 20:03Speaker 1: Professor Forensics, jacksonvill State University. So what do we do now,
- 20:06Speaker 1: Joe Scott in the search for her? And when you
- 20:08Speaker 1: get that vehicle, when you finally get the vehicle, and
- 20:12Speaker 1: I've heard difference ways it was spotted, but it's spotted.
- 20:16Speaker 1: What do you do? Well, you know, you got to
- 20:19Speaker 1: treat this vehicle. Will kick gloves, Nancy. You know, one
- 20:22Speaker 1: of the things I'm thinking about is how did the
- 20:24Speaker 1: car wind up there? You know, who who actually facilitated
- 20:28Speaker 1: that car to get to that point? So that leads
- 20:30Speaker 1: me back to, you know, to one of the biggest
- 20:33Speaker 1: tools we have, that's DNA evidence. If in fact, someone
- 20:37Speaker 1: else was in that vehicle, operating that vehicle got it
- 20:40Speaker 1: to that location, they need to treat that the interior,
- 20:43Speaker 1: the exterior that car very very gently because you could
- 20:46Speaker 1: have touched DNA in there that was brought about from
- 20:48Speaker 1: somebody that's non familiar DNA, So that's one of the
- 20:51Speaker 1: things that they need to take care of. My suspicion
- 20:55Speaker 1: is is that the car was initially processed a bit
- 20:57Speaker 1: at the scene, but more than likely this has been
- 21:00Speaker 1: taken off on a flatbed truck where they can examine
- 21:04Speaker 1: this thing under close scrutiny. Also, they're going to check
- 21:07Speaker 1: base things. Remember his story, Nancy, he's talking about a
- 21:11Speaker 1: flat tire. Is there any evidence of a flat tire?
- 21:14Speaker 1: Is there any evidence of tire has ever been changed?
- 21:16Speaker 1: Has anybody manipulated the back area of the car where
- 21:19Speaker 1: the tires and tools are kept. All these sorts of things,
- 21:23Speaker 1: and of course big things that we can look for,
- 21:25Speaker 1: like blood evidence that's visible with a non aided eye
- 21:28Speaker 1: inside of that car. Is there blood spatterning? There is
- 21:31Speaker 1: there transfer blood in there? Anything that could lead us
- 21:34Speaker 1: back to information regarding exactly what happened. Well, for the
- 21:38Speaker 1: longest time police and detectives were looking for the stepfather
- 21:41Speaker 1: with a bolo. Be on the lookout for the car
- 21:44Speaker 1: and then take a listen to Detective Ken. The gi
- 21:48Speaker 1: next steps We're gonna go ahead and take the car
- 21:50Speaker 1: back to HPD, process it, see if we can get
- 21:52Speaker 1: any fingerprints off of it, and just go over with
- 21:56Speaker 1: a fine cheefe coma see if we see anything. We're
- 22:02Speaker 1: following up on tips because we have tips coming in
- 22:04Speaker 1: on the crime stoppers with the pickup, and we of
- 22:06Speaker 1: course we're following up on those we have to. Um,
- 22:09Speaker 1: but we haven't had you luck finding that truck yet.
- 22:12Speaker 1: And at the same time detectives and police were looking
- 22:16Speaker 1: for the step dad. Take a listen. Are you worry
- 22:19Speaker 1: that you can't find this No, mam, if you considered
- 22:22Speaker 1: a person adventurous, I would like to talk to him
- 22:25Speaker 1: to bed right now. UM, I'm not concerned that we
- 22:28Speaker 1: haven't found him. We're not. No, I'm not concerned about
- 22:32Speaker 1: that I saw him. You think you would think that
- 22:39Speaker 1: if you know your loved one is missing, that you
- 22:42Speaker 1: would be coming forward, and so he may have a
- 22:45Speaker 1: legitimate reason. I haven't spoken with him. Well right now,
- 22:49Speaker 1: we're still trying to pull that and see what the
- 22:51Speaker 1: angles of the cameras are. UM. I have not personally
- 22:54Speaker 1: viewed those, so UM. That's we have officers in these
- 23:00Speaker 1: in these businesses looking at there any cameras focused on
- 23:02Speaker 1: the parking lot, and of course if there is, we're
- 23:04Speaker 1: going to backtrack and get everything we can't, just miscellaneous
- 23:14Speaker 1: clothes papers. It's a clean car, is there? Yeah? I
- 23:21Speaker 1: think I believe us. I'll want to know you. So
- 23:22Speaker 1: what does that mean? J Scott Morgan, it's a clean car. Well,
- 23:25Speaker 1: what he's saying, Nancy, is that first blush upon they're
- 23:29Speaker 1: examining the car, there's nothing in there to indicate that
- 23:32Speaker 1: any kind of struggle happened. You know, we're talking about
- 23:35Speaker 1: obvious signs of struggle, looking for you know, visible bloodstains
- 23:40Speaker 1: for instance, that might be in there, or maybe things
- 23:43Speaker 1: have been bent broken or something like that as a
- 23:46Speaker 1: result of a fight that happened within the car. You know,
- 23:49Speaker 1: there's nothing in there to indicate that there was anything
- 23:52Speaker 1: going on that appeared to be nefarious. At least we'll
- 23:55Speaker 1: have another issue. Randy Kessler. He says, this happens on
- 23:57Speaker 1: the side of the road when he has car trouble,
- 24:01Speaker 1: possibly a flat tire. There are no flats and the
- 24:03Speaker 1: car is found in a parking lot. Okay. According to
- 24:08Speaker 1: an investigators have said a woman spots the great Nissan
- 24:11Speaker 1: Ultima and a parking lot and reports to the Houston
- 24:14Speaker 1: Police Department. So let me understand the theory here. Let's
- 24:19Speaker 1: follow through what the stepfather, Darien fences saying. He's saying
- 24:23Speaker 1: he had he thought a flat tire. He gets out,
- 24:29Speaker 1: Then Hispanic males pull up in a pickup truck. They
- 24:33Speaker 1: admire the daughter, They hit him in the head. He
- 24:36Speaker 1: wakes up twenty four hours later, either in their pickup
- 24:39Speaker 1: truck or on the side of the road, walks to
- 24:42Speaker 1: the hospital and then reports Maliam missing. So how does
- 24:47Speaker 1: his vehicle, the Ultima, get to a parking lot? You
- 24:50Speaker 1: make a dry good prosecutor, and I understand exactly how
- 24:53Speaker 1: you got where you are today, because that's exactly what
- 24:55Speaker 1: you need to do to build a circumstantial evidence case.
- 24:57Speaker 1: But it's still circumstantial evidence and offending the case. You
- 25:01Speaker 1: gotta have more than that to put someone away from
- 25:02Speaker 1: this kind of crime. So you know, it's a start.
- 25:05Speaker 1: What kind of crime? I don't even have a body?
- 25:07Speaker 1: What crime are you talking about? Well, if you're saying
- 25:09Speaker 1: he's involved in conspiracy where it's kidnapping, hiding, you can
- 25:12Speaker 1: have murder without a body. And certainly they've been cases
- 25:14Speaker 1: where murders have been fabric so you've already left to murder.
- 25:18Speaker 1: Why I haven't. I'm trying to defend whatever you said murder.
- 25:22Speaker 1: I didn't say murder. You said it. Well, then with
- 25:25Speaker 1: the crime, where we invest Well, I do know a
- 25:27Speaker 1: little girl's missing. I would say some type of custodial
- 25:30Speaker 1: interference or even a kidnap, which leads me to the mother,
- 25:33Speaker 1: John Limley. Wasn't she going to be picked up at
- 25:35Speaker 1: the airport? Whatever, She's still at the airport waiting. No.
- 25:38Speaker 1: Another family member eventually went to pick her up at
- 25:41Speaker 1: the airport. The flight was supposed to begin around ten
- 25:46Speaker 1: o'clock that night, and that's why around eight thirty or so,
- 25:50Speaker 1: that's when the family left for Bushing Intercontinental. Okay, let
- 25:54Speaker 1: me understand something. So they know he doesn't show up,
- 25:58Speaker 1: They know Malia and a little brother are missing. Nobody
- 26:02Speaker 1: files a missing person report. There was nothing filed that
- 26:06Speaker 1: we are aware of. Nothing has shown up and the
- 26:09Speaker 1: police have not given any information as to that. And
- 26:13Speaker 1: then twenty four hours later, he shows up at the
- 26:16Speaker 1: hospital and goes, oh, somebody hit me in the head.
- 26:18Speaker 1: He does have a head injury right in the middle
- 26:20Speaker 1: of his forehead. Can't miss it, right, But I noticed
- 26:22Speaker 1: there's not a band aid on it. There's not a
- 26:25Speaker 1: doesn't appear to be stitches that I can't tell if
- 26:28Speaker 1: those are. No, I don't see any stitches, but there
- 26:32Speaker 1: is a there is Something did happened to the front
- 26:35Speaker 1: of his head, but I don't know what. So he
- 26:37Speaker 1: goes missing that we know he and the two children
- 26:40Speaker 1: are gone by ten o'clock that night when he's supposed
- 26:43Speaker 1: to pick them up in the airport, But twenty four
- 26:46Speaker 1: hours later, nobody was reported missing. I mean, help me out,
- 26:53Speaker 1: Joe Scott Morgan. You think I'd wait twenty four hours
- 26:55Speaker 1: to report the twins weren't where they're supposed to be.
- 26:59Speaker 1: I'm gonna go drive by their school right now, make
- 27:00Speaker 1: sure they're there. No way t four hours. Yeah, just
- 27:05Speaker 1: the parent and you drives you into just a dead
- 27:08Speaker 1: panic at that point in time, and your look. I'd
- 27:11Speaker 1: be running. I'd be running all over place, screaming have
- 27:13Speaker 1: you seen my child? Have you seen my child? Head
- 27:15Speaker 1: injury or not? Which sounds very dubious at best. Yeah,
- 27:21Speaker 1: I can't imagine waiting twenty four hours to go out
- 27:23Speaker 1: and find my child. Well, it's not just the mom
- 27:26Speaker 1: who was we understand flying in KHRK, Shelley Shoulders talks
- 27:31Speaker 1: with the dad, the bio dad, Craig Davis. I haven't
- 27:35Speaker 1: spoken to the public because I I can't talk about
- 27:40Speaker 1: my daughter with it. I can't control my emotions. I
- 27:45Speaker 1: can't predict myself. I break down and I cry. In
- 27:48Speaker 1: a video postage to Instagram, Davis shared sweet moments with
- 27:51Speaker 1: his daughter as he anguishes over her whereabouts now Good
- 27:56Speaker 1: Investigators say Melia's stepfather was the last person to see her.
- 28:00Speaker 1: Dari and Vince told police he was driving to the
- 28:02Speaker 1: airport Friday night with Malia and his one year old
- 28:05Speaker 1: baby boy. He pulled off at Green's Road in fifty
- 28:07Speaker 1: nine to check a tire and that's when he says
- 28:10Speaker 1: he was ambushed by three Hispanic men and in twenty
- 28:13Speaker 1: ten blue Chevy pickup Vents says the men kidnaped the family.
- 28:17Speaker 1: He says he was in and out of consciousness and
- 28:19Speaker 1: was dropped off in Sugarland Saturday evening with the baby,
- 28:22Speaker 1: but Malia, he says, was gone. Crime Stories with Nancy
- 28:35Speaker 1: Grace detectives tell me those closest to Malia have to
- 28:41Speaker 1: be ruled out, which is why the search is now
- 28:44Speaker 1: focused near the family's home. Early on, I said that,
- 28:48Speaker 1: you know, we're certainly hoping for the best, expecting the worst,
- 28:53Speaker 1: and I certainly expect the worst at disappointed times. I
- 28:56Speaker 1: haven't seen Malia's mother or family on either search, but
- 29:00Speaker 1: they spent last night handing out flyers like the one
- 29:03Speaker 1: the girl's mother clutched while crying, I just want to
- 29:06Speaker 1: find Malia. I just want to you're hearing our frens
- 29:11Speaker 1: at Khou. That was Jason Miles reporting that now the
- 29:15Speaker 1: search focus is around Malia's home. That does not jib
- 29:22Speaker 1: at all with the story from stepfather Darien Vince. As
- 29:27Speaker 1: a matter of fact, take a listen to what we
- 29:30Speaker 1: have learned. Documents we obtained from the Harris County Clerks
- 29:33Speaker 1: show that last August, the Department of Family and Protective
- 29:37Speaker 1: Services were see a report alleging physical abuse and neglectful
- 29:41Speaker 1: supervision of Malia. She was living with her mother, Brittany Bowens,
- 29:46Speaker 1: and stepfather dari and Vince at the time. The state
- 29:49Speaker 1: got involved after Malia's mother brought her to the hospital
- 29:52Speaker 1: with a head injury. Doctors had to do surgery to
- 29:55Speaker 1: remove half of her skull When Malia got out of ICU,
- 29:59Speaker 1: doctor Years ordered that she wear a helmet for twelve
- 30:02Speaker 1: to twenty four months while she healed. But that was
- 30:06Speaker 1: not Malia's first trip to the arm. Doctor Chris Berry,
- 30:12Speaker 1: I hardly even know what to say. Why would you
- 30:16Speaker 1: have to remove that amount of a child's skull. I've
- 30:20Speaker 1: seen children. When my son had a head injury, we
- 30:24Speaker 1: thought he would be having to wear a helmet. He
- 30:28Speaker 1: didn't for your skull to for everything to heal. But
- 30:34Speaker 1: explained to me, what what did she just say? Explain
- 30:37Speaker 1: it to me in terms I can understand sure. What
- 30:40Speaker 1: she said was that half of the skull had to
- 30:45Speaker 1: be removed, and the reason for that is severe swelling
- 30:49Speaker 1: of the brain. There also was bleeding on the surface
- 30:53Speaker 1: of Wilia's brain, which is very suspicious a subdural hemorrhage
- 30:57Speaker 1: or hemorrhage on the surface of the brain, and the
- 31:00Speaker 1: brain reacts to major injury pretty much in one way
- 31:06Speaker 1: by swelling. And when the brain starts to swell, it's
- 31:11Speaker 1: the brain's enclosed, especially in a child of Malia's age,
- 31:15Speaker 1: within a box that can't enlarge and can't expand, so
- 31:19Speaker 1: as the brain swells left unchecked, it will cut off
- 31:25Speaker 1: its own blood supply and eventually cause the person to die.
- 31:28Speaker 1: But in some cases, such as Melia's, surgeons were able
- 31:32Speaker 1: to remove a large part of the skull to allow
- 31:36Speaker 1: the brain to expand and swell without resulting in pressure
- 31:42Speaker 1: on the blood supply to the brain, and then with
- 31:45Speaker 1: enough time and medication to reduce the swelling of the brain,
- 31:49Speaker 1: they were then able to put the piece of skull back.
- 31:54Speaker 1: This can take all week, a couple of weeks sometimes,
- 31:56Speaker 1: but it's fairly remarkable surgery. But it's life saving. And
- 32:00Speaker 1: if it's if you do If you don't do it,
- 32:02Speaker 1: then the only outcome you know is death. So this
- 32:06Speaker 1: is a life saving measure. But what it also tells
- 32:09Speaker 1: me is how severe the injury was to Malia's brain
- 32:13Speaker 1: to cause such massive, uncontrolled swelling that they had to
- 32:17Speaker 1: remove half of the skull in order to allow the
- 32:21Speaker 1: brain to swell and expand without damaging the brain itself.
- 32:26Speaker 1: Doctor Sperry, I had written a question for you. Does
- 32:29Speaker 1: the skull grow back? Like when you break a bone
- 32:32Speaker 1: and you get it set the bone, it seems to
- 32:35Speaker 1: fuse together, you actually create bone and you get well.
- 32:39Speaker 1: At the way I understand it's just I'm a simple
- 32:42Speaker 1: trial lawyer. But does the skull you said they then
- 32:47Speaker 1: put the piece of the skull back. Yes, there's two
- 32:50Speaker 1: different ways what the surgeons will do. They can they'll
- 32:54Speaker 1: take this piece of skull, which would be about the
- 32:57Speaker 1: size of the palm of your hand. I mean it's
- 32:59Speaker 1: it's fairly large, and they can do two different things.
- 33:02Speaker 1: One is to freeze it at very very low temperature.
- 33:07Speaker 1: It's usually about maybe forty degrees below zero at least,
- 33:11Speaker 1: so that uh, you know, the bone itself will will
- 33:15Speaker 1: stay you know, stay viable, it won't die. The other thing,
- 33:18Speaker 1: which is commonly done, is actually to put the piece
- 33:20Speaker 1: of bone inside of the person's abdomen, to just make
- 33:25Speaker 1: an incision and put it inside the belly to allow
- 33:29Speaker 1: it to stay alive again. And then when it kind
- 33:32Speaker 1: comes time to put the piece of skull back onto
- 33:36Speaker 1: the surface of the brain. Then it's just removed from
- 33:39Speaker 1: the belly. It's a fairly simple procedure, and they open
- 33:43Speaker 1: up the scalp incision, place the bone back, and then
- 33:48Speaker 1: use some anchors to uh, you know, keep the piece
- 33:51Speaker 1: of bone in place, and then the bone will the
- 33:56Speaker 1: edges will grow back together once you put the piece
- 33:59Speaker 1: of move the bone and back in place. It's like
- 34:01Speaker 1: a jigsaw puzzle. You put it back in place, and
- 34:03Speaker 1: then then the bone heels with time. To Randy Kessler,
- 34:08Speaker 1: defense lawyer and trial professor at Emory Law School, you
- 34:11Speaker 1: know when you listen to somebody like Chris Sperry, do
- 34:14Speaker 1: you feel like I do a little bit of an idiot? Yeah?
- 34:17Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it's amazing. I mean I can
- 34:21Speaker 1: throw out Latin phrases and arguing court all day. But wow,
- 34:25Speaker 1: as much as I'd like to talk about, you know,
- 34:27Speaker 1: a piece of skull in your abdomen and freezing and
- 34:29Speaker 1: all that, I want to get back to, Malia is
- 34:31Speaker 1: still missing everybody. But what I don't understand right now
- 34:36Speaker 1: Limley John Limley Crime online dot Com investigative reporters. The
- 34:40Speaker 1: mother says she fell from a chair. Okay, that's I
- 34:44Speaker 1: don't need to go to a doctor, doctor Sperry to
- 34:47Speaker 1: tell you you're not gonna have that kind of injury
- 34:50Speaker 1: from falling from a chair. Okay, I've fallen from a
- 34:53Speaker 1: chair before. I've missed the chair not paying attention. I
- 34:56Speaker 1: don't have a brain injury. I don't have to have
- 34:58Speaker 1: part of my skull, remove moved. I mean, anybody in
- 35:01Speaker 1: there yet, a village idiot can figure that out. So
- 35:05Speaker 1: why was she back in the home? I mean, if
- 35:08Speaker 1: that's true, then that means that the mother is lying,
- 35:11Speaker 1: which means why is the mother lying? Has to be
- 35:14Speaker 1: a nefarious reason, I assume for the mother to be lying,
- 35:18Speaker 1: why was she back in the home? And this is
- 35:20Speaker 1: by far the first time Malia has been Absia neglected,
- 35:24Speaker 1: not her first trip to the emergency room. According to records,
- 35:28Speaker 1: three weeks before this incident we were talking about that
- 35:31Speaker 1: required half of her skull to be removed. She was
- 35:35Speaker 1: This is July tenth. The mother took Malia to the
- 35:39Speaker 1: er after she was throwing up blood. Doctors reported Malia
- 35:43Speaker 1: was extremely lethargic and week she was treated and sent home.
- 35:48Speaker 1: The following week, this is now July twenty eighth, Malia
- 35:52Speaker 1: back in the hospital for a cut to her forehead. Later,
- 35:56Speaker 1: medical professional professionals reported she had blood just outside of
- 36:01Speaker 1: her brain, which of course could be life threatening. Now
- 36:05Speaker 1: after us, okay, stop stop stop, I can't, I can't.
- 36:08Speaker 1: I can't take anymore. I can't take anymore. They're not
- 36:11Speaker 1: going to find this girl alive. They're now looking around
- 36:14Speaker 1: the home area to find her doctor Jolly Silva. Why
- 36:18Speaker 1: why why abuse a little for year old girl? Why
- 36:22Speaker 1: go through all this drama and these big lies. Why
- 36:25Speaker 1: not just put her up for adoption, let her go
- 36:27Speaker 1: to somebody that will love her. Why pick out the
- 36:29Speaker 1: step child versus the natural child? I mean, you know,
- 36:33Speaker 1: I've seen hundreds of cases like this, you know, in
- 36:36Speaker 1: the New York City area, and I mean they have
- 36:41Speaker 1: an inability to cope with any of the hardships better
- 36:45Speaker 1: involved with parenting, and they take it out on the child.
- 36:48Speaker 1: They take it out on the child that the child
- 36:50Speaker 1: is doing something to them, and they have no remorse.
- 36:54Speaker 1: You know, I just see it over and over. They
- 36:56Speaker 1: typically just do not have remorse the mother, and my
- 36:59Speaker 1: mom as just as responsible if she stood by and
- 37:03Speaker 1: let this happen. Tipline seven one three three zero eight
- 37:08Speaker 1: thirty six hundred seven one three three zero eight thirty
- 37:12Speaker 1: six hundred or seven one three two two two tips
- 37:16Speaker 1: t I P. S Our prayer is that Malia Davis,
- 37:21Speaker 1: a four year old little girl, is found alive. Nancy
- 37:26Speaker 1: Gray's crime story, signing off Goodbye Friend,