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Chuck & Buck 5-28 hour 3: The unstoppable JSN, Baseball Brunch and get used to OKC... · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Eight o'clock hour here on this Thursday. Man, this week
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Speaker 1: is flying by really helps when you skip an entire day.
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Speaker 1: Kind of feels like.
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Speaker 2: I feel like this is the best way to make
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Speaker 2: the week go.
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Speaker 1: Flying back kind of has it like pushes it forward
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Speaker 1: or something.
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Speaker 2: It's almost like one day you weren't at work.
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Speaker 1: Kind of like speeds it along.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does.
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Speaker 3: When all of a sudden you're done with work on
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Speaker 3: a Tuesday and you're like, hm hmm, all right, well
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Speaker 3: on to Tuesday, and you're like, wait.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Friday. I don't know if you've heard. I've heard
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Speaker 1: that today's Thursday and this this week tomorrow will be Friday.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's great.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're almost there.
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Speaker 2: I love it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love being with you. But this is this
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Speaker 1: crazy how fast this week has gone. So welcome into
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Speaker 1: the radio show. And before you know it, it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be June fourth, before you know it, Colin Ray is
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Speaker 1: going to be performing at the Talalap Resort Casino. Yes
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Speaker 1: he is so, and get your caught with your pants
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Speaker 1: down on that one.
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Speaker 2: They won't let you in if you have your pants down.
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Speaker 1: Colin Ray is a country music artist. You probably know
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Speaker 1: that already. Maybe you couldn't name one of his songs,
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Speaker 1: but you know something, Love me in this life, little Rock.
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Speaker 1: It's got all sorts of hits.
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Speaker 3: As it turns out, a boy and a girl. We
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Speaker 3: got a text or text us about that one.
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Speaker 1: Well, if you want to take a boy and a girl,
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Speaker 1: you can do that. You actually have to purchase one
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Speaker 1: more ticket, but I will give you two of those
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Speaker 1: for free here on the radio program today. Colin Ray
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Speaker 1: June fourth at Talalap Resort Casino. Tickets are available to
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Speaker 1: see the nineties country legend with all of his hits
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Speaker 1: out there at t Lalup at the Orca ball Room.
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Speaker 1: And we've been giving away a pair of tickets day
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Speaker 1: all week long, and we'll do it again, and we're
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Speaker 1: gonna do it the exact same way. We're not gonna
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Speaker 1: complicate this. Four nine four or five to one is
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Speaker 1: the text line. So if you would like to see
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Speaker 1: Colin Ray in concert at Talalap Resort Casino June fourth,
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Speaker 1: then go ahead and send us a text saying that
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Speaker 1: you're interested, and then Ashley will pick one at random
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Speaker 1: to go to that show. Now, I would just ask
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Speaker 1: you this, I would urge you to do this there's
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Speaker 1: no way to govern this. But make sure you can go. Yes,
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Speaker 1: make sure you want to go, make sure you're interested
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Speaker 1: in going. You need to start at really wanting to go,
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Speaker 1: because by the time it rolls around and you're tired
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Speaker 1: from work and celebrating my birthday that day you're going,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna drop a little bit. You're probably not gonna
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Speaker 1: be as excited by the time because you're just worn
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Speaker 1: out by life. So you need to start at a
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Speaker 1: position of I really want to go, and you will
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Speaker 1: end up at I want to go.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you got that works.
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Speaker 1: So and the reason we stress that is because we
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Speaker 1: don't want you to take it away from somebody that
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Speaker 1: really does want to go, right.
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Speaker 2: Because we're picking one person randomly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't just a competition to beat all of
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Speaker 1: the KJR listeners to tickets. Nope, this is I really
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Speaker 1: want to see Colin Ray, so put me on the list,
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Speaker 1: please randomize or pick my name, because I can't wait
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Speaker 1: to see him in concert next week. All right, we'll
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Speaker 1: do another pair tomorrow as well. Friday.
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Speaker 3: Already here, Well, that's gonna be that Friday pair of
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Speaker 3: tickets is gonna feel extra special.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not been a great week for me, like overall.
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Speaker 1: Oh but and so usually those those kind of weeks
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Speaker 1: kind of dragged down. Yeah, but man, this is flown.
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Speaker 1: I can't believe it's already Thursday. All right. Yesterday we
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Speaker 1: had Matt Hasselback on and yeah, I'm going to replace
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Speaker 1: some of it for you. So I realized that I'm
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Speaker 1: speaking to our eight o'clock segment audience right now, and
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Speaker 1: we had him on at eight o'clock. Usually I try
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Speaker 1: to put him at a different time when I do
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Speaker 1: replace some of it. But this isn't your typical in
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Speaker 1: case you missed it kind of interview. I just wanted
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Speaker 1: to play a clip because I think he said something
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Speaker 1: very interesting yesterday about Jackson Smith and Jigba, and then
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Speaker 1: want to have the time to kind of respond to
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Speaker 1: Matt's thoughts on our wide receiver number one. But I
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Speaker 1: posed it this way to Matt Hasselbeck, who does follow
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Speaker 1: the team very closely.
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Speaker 2: YT He's a gem. I'm so glad we have him on.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he is locked in on it. I posed it
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Speaker 1: this way the Rams, who seem to be the stiffest competition,
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Speaker 1: not just in the NFC West this year, but throughout
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Speaker 1: the NFL. For the Seahawks, trying to repeat as Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl champions, seem to have gone out of their way
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Speaker 1: to bolster their secondary, getting McDuffie, getting two guys from
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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, and so they've bolstered their secondary.
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Speaker 1: And I think it's pretty obvious it's anti JSN where
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Speaker 1: that the Rams are going to approach this season with.
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Speaker 1: They've got a wide receiver that is really difficult to control,
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Speaker 1: and if we can do a better job of controlling him,
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Speaker 1: maybe that's the difference in US actually winning the NFC
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Speaker 1: West this year. But I asked Matt Hasselback about that
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Speaker 1: and specifically, is there any defense against Jsn? Can he
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Speaker 1: be stopped? No matter what other teams try to.
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Speaker 4: Do well, everyone else is trying to do it. With
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Speaker 4: the disrespect that the awards show at NFL Honors, they couldn't.
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Speaker 1: Say his name.
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Speaker 4: The NFL accidentally sent him the Defensive Player of the
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Speaker 4: Year award trophy instead of the Offensive Player of the
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Speaker 4: Year trophy. So you know, he's getting disrespected all kinds
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Speaker 4: of different ways from different spots. But the true measure
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Speaker 4: of respect is what the teams in your division do
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Speaker 4: in the draft and free agency to try to stop you.
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Speaker 4: I remember I was with the Green Bay Packers my
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Speaker 4: rookie season and Randy Moss just went off with the
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Speaker 4: Minnesota Vikings, just torched the NFL completely and we had
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Speaker 4: really good dvs. We The very next year, we drafted
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Speaker 4: a corner in the first round, a corner in the
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Speaker 4: second round, and a corner in the third round, and
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Speaker 4: our head coach basically was like, Hey, we'll see if
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Speaker 4: one of y'all can cover Randy Moss, because so far
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Speaker 4: we've not met anybody that can do it, and so
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Speaker 4: I don't know that we're at that extreme, but it
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Speaker 4: was definitely a sign of respect to Randy Moss, the
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Speaker 4: wide receiver, and I think that's kind of what's been
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Speaker 4: happening with this division with JSM.
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Speaker 1: Matt Hasselback yesterday. If you want to hear the entire conversation,
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Speaker 1: you can do so at ninety three to three kjar
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Speaker 1: dot com. I mean, Jerry Rice was maybe the best
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Speaker 1: football player I've ever watched. And the reason that I
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Speaker 1: feel that way is that Jerry Rice didn't matter. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he would go into a game and if you were
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Speaker 1: rooting for him, like you know, when fantasy football started.
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Speaker 1: I had Jerry Rice on my very first ever fantasy
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Speaker 1: football team, and so you rooted for him, and you
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Speaker 1: were like, man, this is too good to be true.
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Speaker 1: This guy can't be guarded. He can't be stopped. When
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Speaker 1: you're rooting against him, you were like, how come nobody's
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Speaker 1: covering Jerry Rice? Yeah? How does the defensive coordinator not
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Speaker 1: know that Jerry Rice is good?
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Speaker 2: Did no one give him a game plan?
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Speaker 1: And he always seemed not just he not only got
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Speaker 1: the balls thrown to him, he always seemed wide open,
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Speaker 1: like through his entire career, and it just left you
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Speaker 1: scratching your head. You're like, how on earth is the
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Speaker 1: defense not guarding Jerry Rice? And we're gonna give coach
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Speaker 1: Holmgren a little bit of credit for that early in
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Speaker 1: Jerry's career for scheming him open. So we don't want
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Speaker 1: to leave coach out in that. We know that Jerry
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Speaker 1: played with great quarterbacks, some of the best of all times,
7:53
Speaker 1: and Joe Montana and Steve Young, and so a little
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Speaker 1: bit of that goes a long way. We know that
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Speaker 1: he had another weapon in John Taylor for most of
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Speaker 1: his career on the other side, that certainly commanded attention.
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Speaker 1: And you know that coach Holmgren and Steve Mariucci and
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Speaker 1: whoever else was there with San Francisco, you know they
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Speaker 1: ran that West Coast offense, so they put a full
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Speaker 1: back out. Brent Jones was dangerous. Roger Craig was so
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Speaker 1: Jerry Rice. I mean, there were a lot of reasons
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Speaker 1: that went into it, but there was no reason that
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Speaker 1: he would should ever be left wide open, and yet
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Speaker 1: because of his own individual greatness, he often was. And
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Speaker 1: you were either screaming for him that he can't be
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Speaker 1: stopped and it's amazing, like you're stealing candy as a
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Speaker 1: fantasy football player or a forty nine er fan. But
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Speaker 1: if you were rooting against them, it just you couldn't
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Speaker 1: believe what you were watching, and you were sure that
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Speaker 1: the other team was just a defensive coordinator was a dope.
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Speaker 1: But I think that this position, for whatever reason, like
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Speaker 1: the truly elite ones have that ability no matter what
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Speaker 1: you do against them, that they can create space in
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Speaker 1: a defense. They just know outer run routes, they know
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Speaker 1: how to catch defensive backs off guard, and it's just
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Speaker 1: happened throughout history. I mean, that's one thing about wide receivers.
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Speaker 1: Usually the great ones are always at the top of
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Speaker 1: the list the next year, and catches and targets and
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Speaker 1: yardage and touchdowns. That's just how it sort of works.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter how much the other team game plans against
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Speaker 1: them defensively or who they bring in to try to
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Speaker 1: help stop, the great ones, just separate themselves. And I
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Speaker 1: think the Rams are gonna do a better job of
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Speaker 1: defending against JSN. They've obviously made it a priority. They're
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Speaker 1: gonna bracket him double team, and they're gonna probably do
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Speaker 1: whatever it takes to stop a guy that had one
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Speaker 1: hundred and nineteen catches last year and our second place
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Speaker 1: receiver at fifty two. Oh my goodness, but that'll tells
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Speaker 1: you we've got one of those guys. He is one
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Speaker 1: of those guys. Travis Kelsey said of in the postseason
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Speaker 1: when asked about JSN, and he said it in almost
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Speaker 1: a flabbergasting, flabbergasted way, not like I'm coming on the
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Speaker 1: air to talk about JSN. It was almost like I
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Speaker 1: catch passes for a living. I've been really good at it,
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Speaker 1: probably great at it, probably going to the Hall of Fame,
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Speaker 1: and yet I've never seen anything like him. The separation
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Speaker 1: that he gets. Travis Kelsey went as far as saying
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Speaker 1: JSM might be the best pass catcher the game has
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Speaker 1: ever seen. That's what he said about it. And you
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Speaker 1: can't get more flattering than that. And and I know
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Speaker 1: he's not the fastest guy, and I know he's not
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Speaker 1: the biggest guy, and I know he's not got the
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Speaker 1: best leaping ability.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because we had one of those on our team.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And certainly he's got great hands. Are they
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Speaker 1: the best I've ever seen? It's gonna be hard to
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Speaker 1: top Chris Carter in my book. Ever, it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: hard to top Steve Largent ever for the greatest hands
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Speaker 1: that we've ever seen. But certainly he's ten out of ten.
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Speaker 1: He's a ten in that area. But his just ability
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Speaker 1: and knowledge to change up his route, change up his speed.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure the rams have closed the gap a little bit.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think there's any stopping JSN. I just
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Speaker 1: think he's one of those dudes. I don't think there's
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Speaker 1: any stop in Jamar Chase. He's not the only one.
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Speaker 1: He's not the only one. As long as you got
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Speaker 1: a good quarterback, I think the only way to stop
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Speaker 1: a quarterback like a receiver like that that is in
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Speaker 1: that category, that is in the Jerry Rice I'm the
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Speaker 1: best in the world conversation category is that you don't
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Speaker 1: have the quarterback that can get him the ball. And
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Speaker 1: I like to believe that we have one in Sam
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Speaker 1: Donald despite all of the critics. So I say, good luck, Rams.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you spend an awful lot of money to
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Speaker 1: try to stop our wide receiver. One. I don't think
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Speaker 1: you're going to do it.
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Speaker 3: No, And I you know, we do give a lot
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Speaker 3: of We talk about how a lot of athletes forge
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Speaker 3: or create a chip to have on their shoulder in
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Speaker 3: order to perform better. And now JSN not that we
12:24
Speaker 3: needed him to perform better, right, We needed him to
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Speaker 3: just come back and do what he did last year.
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Speaker 3: And if he does that, we're we should be in
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Speaker 3: good shape. But now he also has a chip on
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Speaker 3: his shoulder and he didn't have to make it up
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Speaker 3: to get it there. So I mean, he is genuinely
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Speaker 3: pissed off and feels disrespected by certain things. And so
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Speaker 3: I think you're just going to have a guy on
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Speaker 3: a mission in twenty twenty six, an absolute mission.
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Speaker 2: And I am so excited about much.
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Speaker 1: I don't think he needs that chip. He didn't help.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't need it.
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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying I think he's got it.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to get back into that conversation again.
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Speaker 1: I think it's silly that he fells disrespected by an
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Speaker 1: unprofessional comedian. But he doesn't need it. I mean, he
13:07
Speaker 1: didn't have it last year and he dominated and so look,
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Speaker 1: Hugh Millen brought up during the year, and I don't
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Speaker 1: know if I know a person that knows more about
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Speaker 1: football than Hugh Millen, and I know what he was
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Speaker 1: coming from in the conversation about it, and that was that, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I've been around this game a long time. I've been
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Speaker 1: around some of the old time greats, and you can't
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Speaker 1: just lock in on one wide receiver. You guys spread
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Speaker 1: the ball around and it just creates balance in your offense.
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Speaker 1: And I know he's right about that. I know he
13:38
Speaker 1: was spot on about it. But he was talking about
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Speaker 1: that early in the season and he thought they were
13:41
Speaker 1: leaning on him a little too much during the course
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Speaker 1: of the year. And my reaction at the time was, well,
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Speaker 1: if they can't stop it, why would I go away
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Speaker 1: from it? I I you know, I get what you're saying,
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Speaker 1: and I think that you're right. And yet in basketball,
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Speaker 1: what really separated the Michael Jordan career from everybody else
14:15
Speaker 1: was this ability by the Chicago Bulls to say, hey,
14:19
Speaker 1: this league's been won by balance in the past. That
14:23
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson and the Lakers and Larry Bird. The Celtics
14:28
Speaker 1: had five guys on the court that could score. The
14:32
Speaker 1: Lakers had some usually four, and then they would have
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Speaker 1: a defensive stopper who could run the floor, okay, And
14:40
Speaker 1: so that's kind of the way it was almost every team,
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Speaker 1: like everybody could shoot. That's how you built a basketball team.
14:46
Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't want to have one weakness on
14:48
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. You wanted everybody to
14:51
Speaker 1: be able to shoot. And if you had five guys
14:53
Speaker 1: on the floor at one time, what an advantage that
14:56
Speaker 1: that's going to give you. But Michael Jordan, when he
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Speaker 1: came around and text Winner and Phil Jackson, they were like,
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Speaker 1: why do we need to give the ball to anybody else?
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Speaker 1: We have the opportunity every trip down the floor to
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Speaker 1: put the ball in the hands of the greatest basketball
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Speaker 1: player in the world. And it doesn't mean he has
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Speaker 1: to shoot every time but if we can just kind
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Speaker 1: of put role players around him that if defenses do
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Speaker 1: want to triple team him, quadruple team him zone and
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Speaker 1: won him, then we'll put guys on the perimeter that'll
15:29
Speaker 1: burn them for that. Well, we'll put a man down
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Speaker 1: low who can get the easy layup because you've put
15:34
Speaker 1: too much attention toward him. And that sort of started
15:37
Speaker 1: a new revolution in basketball and everybody started doing it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Why are we running a balanced offense?
15:45
Speaker 5: Why are we running this play to the right, but
15:47
Speaker 5: we want to run this play to the left to
15:49
Speaker 5: keep everybody involved, to keep the defense imbalanced. Why don't
15:53
Speaker 5: we just give it to our best player every single
15:55
Speaker 5: time and then we'll play off of that. If they
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Speaker 5: stop him, then that means somebody's wide open and he
16:03
Speaker 5: has the passing ability to kick it to that person.
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Speaker 5: And so they did that in basketball years ago. And
16:08
Speaker 5: that's kind of what you see, kind of tying the
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Speaker 5: entire conversation together. Was Okay, Jerry Rise is our best player.
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Speaker 5: Coach talks about all the time, I had Jerry plays,
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Speaker 5: and if I hadn't gone to him in a while,
16:25
Speaker 5: I just run a Jerry play, and that guy just
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Speaker 5: had the ability to get open no matter what you
16:30
Speaker 5: wanted to try to do against him. And it's what
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Speaker 5: an advantage that we have that we have one of
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Speaker 5: those dudes. And so even though I one hundred percent
16:39
Speaker 5: agree with Hughes theory that he used during the course
16:42
Speaker 5: of the season, we've got to spread this around, it
16:44
Speaker 5: turns out that we really didn't have to spread it
16:48
Speaker 5: around because until somebody shows that Jackson Smith and jigback
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Speaker 5: can be stopped, then I'm going to throw to him
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Speaker 5: whenever I have the chance, because he's our best on
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Speaker 5: our team. And and so that's that's the advantage of
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Speaker 5: having one.
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Speaker 1: Of these special cats, and we just so happened to
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Speaker 1: have one of them. And so I think the Rams
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Speaker 1: will do a better job, But I don't think it's
17:14
Speaker 1: going to solve your issue. Just like we don't have
17:17
Speaker 1: a solution for your wide receiver one. You've got one
17:20
Speaker 1: of those guys too. We've got a great secondary here
17:23
Speaker 1: in Seattle. We can't stop him, right, and you can't
17:26
Speaker 1: stop our guy. And you can improve it if you'd like,
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Speaker 1: But I just there's something about having a good quarterback
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Speaker 1: and an elite wide receiver one of those guys that
17:37
Speaker 1: has pretty much been unstoppable throughout history. You heard Matt
17:40
Speaker 1: Hasselback talking about Randy Moss. We already had a good secondary,
17:44
Speaker 1: We drafted three guys, and we still couldn't stop him
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Speaker 1: the next year. Good luck. That might be chasing your tail,
17:50
Speaker 1: because I don't think whatever you do is going to
17:52
Speaker 1: slow down number eleven.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he just proves it time after time.
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Speaker 3: Because two years ago, obviously with DK here, everybody kind
17:58
Speaker 3: of said, well, Jason's having good season because everybody's double
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Speaker 3: teamy DK, and so it's not just JSN. How's he
18:05
Speaker 3: really going to do when he's on his own and
18:07
Speaker 3: he's the main target.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think he's gonna do pretty freaking good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say it only unlocked him. Yeah. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if John knew that at the time.
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Speaker 3: I like to think that John is like a he
18:18
Speaker 3: just sees everything in the future.
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Speaker 1: I think John suspected it. I don't think that he
18:24
Speaker 1: even knew.
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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone could have expected what we got.
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Speaker 1: I don't think even John knew how good he was. Yeah.
18:32
Speaker 1: I don't even think Mike knew how good he was.
18:36
Speaker 1: And I think that hughes football instincts are about as
18:39
Speaker 1: good as anyone's. And when he's saying, no, I've been
18:42
Speaker 1: around this game a lot, You've got to spread the
18:44
Speaker 1: ball around. That's how you're going to be a more
18:46
Speaker 1: balanced offense. You got to use both. You gotta go
18:48
Speaker 1: outside the hash marks, you gotta use middle of the field,
18:50
Speaker 1: and you got to incorporate more people. And I think
18:53
Speaker 1: that's sound perfect reasonable football since to feel that way,
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Speaker 1: But maybe we didn't realize we have one of those guys.
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Speaker 1: Even after seeing him for a couple of years, I
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Speaker 1: didn't think that he could do what he did this
19:09
Speaker 1: past year.
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Speaker 2: No, as I said, I don't think anyone could have
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Speaker 2: predicted what we got.
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Speaker 1: Right, And I mean one hundred and nineteen catches seven
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Speaker 1: hundred and ninety three yards for goodness sake, I mean yeah,
19:23
Speaker 1: I think that makes perfectly logical, reasonable sense that you
19:27
Speaker 1: need more weapons around him, and I still want to
19:30
Speaker 1: keep building them up. Like Rashicha Heat is back at
19:34
Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars to provide that balance. Cooper cups being
19:38
Speaker 1: paid a big salary. We should see more out of
19:41
Speaker 1: Elijah Royo. We're certainly expecting to see more out of
19:44
Speaker 1: a healthy Tory Horton this upcoming year, and so we
19:49
Speaker 1: do have those weapons, but I don't know if you
19:52
Speaker 1: do need to spread it around in this offense. I
19:56
Speaker 1: think Sam's Sam had the right of it from the
19:59
Speaker 1: beginning of year. Last year, I'm looking to him and
20:03
Speaker 1: if he's open, I'm throwing it to him. Yeah, you
20:06
Speaker 1: know that's gonna be That's gonna be our passing game.
20:09
Speaker 1: I'm just going to believe that he's nobody can cover him,
20:13
Speaker 1: and that's who I'm gonna throw it to. I remember
20:16
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, Kurt Warner came in. Everybody thought he
20:20
Speaker 1: was washed and he kind of looked that way at
20:25
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. Remember they made it to
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with Kurt Warner. Should have won it
20:30
Speaker 1: if now for a couple of fluky Steelers plays, would
20:32
Speaker 1: have won the Super Bowl. And certainly the best player
20:36
Speaker 1: on that team was Larry Fitzgerald and then one of
20:41
Speaker 1: the top five players on the team, maybe top three
20:43
Speaker 1: was and Kwan Bolden. So they had these weapons on
20:46
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, and Kurt Warner spent
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Speaker 1: the first half of that season spreading the football around
20:54
Speaker 1: like because that's what he was conditioned to do with
20:57
Speaker 1: the rams. He had receivers everywhere and where. We're gonna
21:00
Speaker 1: spread it around. We're gonna throw it outside the ash,
21:02
Speaker 1: We're gonna throw it deep to keep you hoes. We're
21:04
Speaker 1: gonna throw it over the middle. I'm gonna throw it
21:05
Speaker 1: to Marshall Falk one hundred times out of the backfield,
21:08
Speaker 1: you know. And it was a symphony. It's one of
21:10
Speaker 1: the greatest offenses of all time. And that's the way
21:12
Speaker 1: that it's supposed to look, that's how it's supposed to
21:14
Speaker 1: be drawn up. But Isaac Bruce and Torrey Holder are
21:17
Speaker 1: having a hard time getting into the Hall of Fame
21:20
Speaker 1: despite the numbers that they put up, because they aren't
21:24
Speaker 1: clearly that guy. They aren't that Jerry Rice guy. They
21:28
Speaker 1: aren't Larry Fitzgerald. And about halfway through that football season,
21:33
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, and this was after Larry's urging, because Larry
21:37
Speaker 1: wasn't the fastest guy out there either. Larry just told him,
21:42
Speaker 1: throw it to me, but what you're covered? Throw it
21:46
Speaker 1: to me, Yeah, but you've got two guys on you
21:50
Speaker 1: just throw it to me. And so he's like, yeah,
21:56
Speaker 1: but if they're both in front of you, then throw
21:57
Speaker 1: it above them. They can't stop me, man. And I
22:02
Speaker 1: don't know if he ever said that word for word,
22:04
Speaker 1: but in the second half of the season, Kurt Warner,
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Speaker 1: whether Larry Fitzgerald was covered or not, throw the ball
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Speaker 1: to Larry Fitzgerald, and all of a sudden, the Cardinals
22:12
Speaker 1: started taking off. There are just special dudes, and at
22:18
Speaker 1: that position, I don't know if you've got to play
22:21
Speaker 1: by the traditional logical sense of things, and so good
22:26
Speaker 1: on your rams. I realize you probably had to do
22:28
Speaker 1: that out of necessity. It feels right, but I don't
22:32
Speaker 1: think you're stopping our guy. Like maybe you keep him
22:35
Speaker 1: from getting to one hundred and nineteen catches again, but
22:39
Speaker 1: something tells me he's going to have one hundred and ten.
22:42
Speaker 1: He's just that special. He's just one of those dudes.
22:45
Speaker 1: I don't think he can be stopped. Larry Fitzgerald couldn't
22:48
Speaker 1: be stopped even when he was covered. Jerry Rice couldn't
22:51
Speaker 1: be stopped even when you game planned against him. And
22:54
Speaker 1: I think we've got one of those guys right now.
22:57
Speaker 1: So Sam, when he's open, throw to him and don't
23:00
Speaker 1: worry about balance across the field, all right? Coming down
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Speaker 1: we deliver for you a nice little course of Mariners baseball.
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Speaker 1: Something we're adding to the show for the summer, and
24:08
Speaker 1: that is a second recap, but a different version of
24:12
Speaker 1: the recap of the Mariners game the day before. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to the Baseball Brunch, starring today Colt Emerson.
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Speaker 6: Carby a chance here for Emerson cracks this down the line,
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Speaker 6: right field base hit young. He's on his way home.
24:29
Speaker 6: This finds the corner and right field paradas. He's steaming
24:33
Speaker 6: of the plate and he scores. Standing. Colt Emerson stands
24:36
Speaker 6: up at third. It's a two run triple for cold Emerson,
24:43
Speaker 6: first big leg triple for the twenty year old.
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Speaker 1: Oh just all sorts of first for Colt Emerson.
24:49
Speaker 2: Oh man, so fun to watch him.
24:51
Speaker 3: First steps, Oh yes, first first solid food he was.
24:57
Speaker 1: I think he was chewing tobacco the other which I
25:01
Speaker 1: thought was kind of going away with younger players. Maybe
25:04
Speaker 1: I'm wrong about that, but I did wonder that his
25:07
Speaker 1: first tobacca.
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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, if it is, he's gonna get quite the buzz.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's nice seeing all of his first Oh man,
25:15
Speaker 1: remember earlier in the series, the first time that he
25:18
Speaker 1: ever had sugar.
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Speaker 2: Man, he was just mowing down those pixie sticks.
25:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, the look on his face, like, oh wow, he was.
25:27
Speaker 3: Like that delicious, that little Mariners fan with her yellow
25:29
Speaker 3: jacket and.
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Speaker 1: Her cotton candy.
25:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just like that. He's so adorable.
25:34
Speaker 1: Oh man, I can't wait he kisses his first girl.
25:37
Speaker 1: Oh that's probably gonna happen in the next series, the
25:40
Speaker 1: Diamondback series.
25:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, those girls from Arizona.
25:43
Speaker 1: Oh that's just wonderful. So cold Emerson two more hits yesterday,
25:48
Speaker 1: including his first triple. Look, he's got a two fifty
25:52
Speaker 1: eight batting average right now, three sixty one on base
25:55
Speaker 1: and a five sixteen slug So you know I did
25:59
Speaker 1: and it was more of a caution of Hey, usually
26:03
Speaker 1: guys that get called up struggle and major Lee doesn't.
26:07
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how talented you are, especially those under
26:10
Speaker 1: the age of twenty one. For goodness sake. I mean,
26:12
Speaker 1: Mike Trout, by his second year in Major League baseball
26:15
Speaker 1: was the best player in the world, but his first
26:18
Speaker 1: year he struggled. And so it usually happens that way.
26:23
Speaker 1: So I was kind of preparing every don't expect this
26:25
Speaker 1: guy to come in here and be a savior for
26:28
Speaker 1: this team. Don't expect him to just come in here
26:30
Speaker 1: and dominate or even play well. He's probably going to struggle,
26:34
Speaker 1: especially on the offensive side of the ball. And yet, man,
26:38
Speaker 1: you take those numbers all day long, three sixty one
26:41
Speaker 1: on base in a five to sixteen slug and he
26:44
Speaker 1: seems to be getting more comfortable with every single game.
26:47
Speaker 1: And yesterday's triple pretty much opened up the contest.
26:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun to see. He's fun to watch.
26:53
Speaker 3: I'm glad he's here. I mean, as we've talked about,
26:55
Speaker 3: didn't come up and necessarily the way we would have hoped,
26:57
Speaker 3: but he's sure making the most of it.
26:59
Speaker 1: Uh, And so well, that kind of opened the game
27:01
Speaker 1: up at that point. That made a five to nothing
27:04
Speaker 1: and Logan Gilbert was on his game yesterday. He didn't
27:06
Speaker 1: need anything more. He went six innings, he allowed five hits,
27:09
Speaker 1: two walks, six k's, no runs in the contest. That's
27:13
Speaker 1: back to back outstanding outings from Logan, So it looks
27:17
Speaker 1: like he is back on track at this point and
27:20
Speaker 1: the Mariners role to a nine to one win. But
27:22
Speaker 1: it all started in the first inning. And something that
27:25
Speaker 1: I bring up a lot on this show I've certainly
27:27
Speaker 1: been bringing up a lot recently, and that is this
27:31
Speaker 1: is the major leagues. You can't give opposing teams additional outs.
27:36
Speaker 1: Make the routine plays. We didn't on Saturday when Brian
27:41
Speaker 1: wu was pitching against Kansas City and a scoreless game
27:44
Speaker 1: ended up for nothing in the blink of an eye
27:47
Speaker 1: because we weren't making routine plays in the field. Well,
27:52
Speaker 1: the A's returned the favor to us in this series.
27:55
Speaker 1: If you remember back to game number one, they had
27:58
Speaker 1: a shore fire double play ball from Josh Naylor and
28:01
Speaker 1: Darnell Herneye who's filling in for All Star Jack Wilson
28:05
Speaker 1: at shortstop, bobbles the ball just enough that Josh Naylor
28:09
Speaker 1: ends up beating it out at first base, and we
28:12
Speaker 1: went from should have had zero runs in that game
28:15
Speaker 1: to having six runs in that inning. Scored six runs
28:19
Speaker 1: in that inning, and that really got the entire sweep started.
28:23
Speaker 1: Was that inning, Well, we saw it yesterday as well,
28:26
Speaker 1: very first inning. They should have been out of the inning.
28:29
Speaker 1: Ground ball up the middle again, it's Josh Naylor and
28:32
Speaker 1: Jeff McNeil tries a whirlly bird off balanced throw and
28:36
Speaker 1: he's not very good defensively to begin with, but he
28:39
Speaker 1: had JP Crawford out by a country mile at second base,
28:43
Speaker 1: and instead he went with the highlight throw, or he
28:46
Speaker 1: just went with the thought that JP's faster than he
28:49
Speaker 1: really is.
28:50
Speaker 2: Well, was he fooled?
28:51
Speaker 1: Yeah? Boy, he got up on the wrong side of
28:54
Speaker 1: the bed, tell you that much. Throws it into the
28:57
Speaker 1: dugout and it leads to Rob Redt Schnyder having the
29:01
Speaker 1: most important at bat of the game because it was
29:03
Speaker 1: a tone setter. Res Schneider comes up with two on.
29:07
Speaker 1: We don't have big expectations of Rob Refschneider. He's earned that,
29:11
Speaker 1: he'll tell you that. And res Nider it's a three
29:13
Speaker 1: run homer to set the tone for the rest of
29:16
Speaker 1: the game, and you go on to win easily nine
29:19
Speaker 1: to one to sweep the A's in Sacramento. Rob Reschneider
29:24
Speaker 1: maybe a step in the right direction these last couple
29:26
Speaker 1: of games here. He was afterwards. Rob Reschneider, very practical
29:32
Speaker 1: professional athlete. He struck me as that during spring training,
29:36
Speaker 1: like the interview we did with him, there was nothing
29:38
Speaker 1: dynamic about it. He actually kind of has this air
29:42
Speaker 1: about like I'm nothing special. I can play baseball a
29:47
Speaker 1: little bit, and as long as I can play baseball
29:49
Speaker 1: a little bit, I hope I can help the team out.
29:51
Speaker 1: You know, there's no like visions of grandeur. Maybe he
29:54
Speaker 1: had them when he was twenty five years old, but
29:56
Speaker 1: he doesn't have them at thirty five. He kind of
29:59
Speaker 1: knows what he is is. And frankly, he struggled, admittedly
30:05
Speaker 1: with the struggle with struggling, Like not only did he
30:08
Speaker 1: struggle performing like he was supposed to as one of
30:11
Speaker 1: our free agent signings, but he struggled with struggling. And
30:15
Speaker 1: when he went away for his paternity leave and came back,
30:19
Speaker 1: he immediately copped to I was having a hard time
30:24
Speaker 1: and I needed to talk to my wife. I mean, yeah,
30:26
Speaker 1: I brought a baby into the world in the last
30:28
Speaker 1: three days, but also needed to talk to I needed
30:31
Speaker 1: my wife, I needed support. I needed to talk to
30:33
Speaker 1: our mental coach. I needed a little bit of time
30:36
Speaker 1: away to kind of refocus so that in one end
30:40
Speaker 1: it's refreshing to kind of I'm struggling with this. I
30:44
Speaker 1: need some help. On the other hand, obviously, we've got
30:47
Speaker 1: a guy that beats himself up a little bit mentally,
30:50
Speaker 1: and looking up at a scoreboard for two months and
30:52
Speaker 1: seeing his batting average at one hundred has been working
30:55
Speaker 1: on him. Hopefully, because this guy has hit left hand
31:00
Speaker 1: very successfully in the last three years. These last two
31:04
Speaker 1: games get it moved in the right direction. He got
31:06
Speaker 1: on base three times the game before and then this game.
31:10
Speaker 1: Back to back games that he plays, he hits the
31:13
Speaker 1: home run that sets the tone for the rest of
31:15
Speaker 1: the game. I envision Rob Rethsneinder being a contributor to
31:21
Speaker 1: this year's attempt to win the World Series. But he's
31:25
Speaker 1: got to obviously be better Ashley than he's been for
31:27
Speaker 1: the two first two months of the season. So hopefully
31:30
Speaker 1: the last forty eight hours was the sort of vote
31:32
Speaker 1: of confidence that he needed, not coming verbally, but seeing
31:36
Speaker 1: it actually happen on the field that gets him where
31:39
Speaker 1: he needs to be.
31:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nice to be able to see him to,
31:42
Speaker 3: you know, be an actual contributor. And he did talk
31:44
Speaker 3: about as well in his postgame that he's had some
31:46
Speaker 3: knee issues and so he had to adjust kind of
31:49
Speaker 3: the way that he was taking his at bats and
31:52
Speaker 3: actually at the plate. And so maybe that has finally
31:55
Speaker 3: kind of clicked in, because you know, they say any
31:57
Speaker 3: small tweet takes a while, maybe that's what it is,
32:00
Speaker 3: and then we'll start to see something consistent from him,
32:02
Speaker 3: which would be exactly what this team needs.
32:04
Speaker 1: And self awareness. It's a great trait to have as
32:07
Speaker 1: a human being. It's a trait great trait to have
32:10
Speaker 1: as a baseball player, and you don't normally see it.
32:13
Speaker 1: Usually professional athletes are like, no, I'm really good.
32:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I got this. I can play for decades.
32:18
Speaker 1: And I just haven't been given the opportunity to show that.
32:21
Speaker 2: Yeah.
32:21
Speaker 1: Now, that's usually what how they I ran into a
32:24
Speaker 1: lot of bad luck. We've seen JP Crawford in the
32:27
Speaker 1: last week say I might not be the best guy
32:29
Speaker 1: to play short stuff for us right now. It might
32:31
Speaker 1: be the kid and now and We've heard Rob Refsneider
32:35
Speaker 1: you heard at the beginning of that clip saying, yeah,
32:37
Speaker 1: I get why people are throwing left handers against it
32:40
Speaker 1: against us.
32:41
Speaker 4: Me.
32:41
Speaker 1: I'm a big reason why I was supposed to crush
32:44
Speaker 1: those guys, and I just haven't done anything. And so
32:48
Speaker 1: that self awareness hopefully manifests itself in more production. And
32:53
Speaker 1: I have a feeling now that we're getting to know
32:54
Speaker 1: ref Schneider a little bit better. The more productive he is,
32:57
Speaker 1: the more he's going to relax. The more he relaxes,
33:00
Speaker 1: probably the better he's going to be. So hopefully he's
33:03
Speaker 1: on the right trajectory. Finally, we still have a chance
33:07
Speaker 1: to be big fans of Rob Refsnyder before the season
33:09
Speaker 1: comes to it.
33:10
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, because when he has done, when he's had
33:13
Speaker 3: his few good moments, I've I've really wanted that for him.
33:16
Speaker 3: I've loved his honesty, I've loved the things that he said,
33:18
Speaker 3: and I want to root for him. I mean, he's
33:20
Speaker 3: on our team, of course we want to root for him.
33:21
Speaker 3: That seems probably like a silly thing to say, but
33:24
Speaker 3: you know, when it seems like a lot of times
33:26
Speaker 3: our athletes feel like they have to be so tough
33:28
Speaker 3: and have to be boisterous and have to be you know, show.
33:30
Speaker 2: Their bravado to make you believe how good they are.
33:33
Speaker 3: And so it's nice to see somebody who's like, yeah,
33:36
Speaker 3: I haven't been holding up my end of the bargain,
33:38
Speaker 3: that's for sure.
33:39
Speaker 2: You know, that's a refreshing thing. Thank you. It'd be
33:42
Speaker 2: nice if we heard something like that from Dan Wilson
33:44
Speaker 2: from time to time.
33:45
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm just saying versus the you know, you.
33:48
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, just some refreshing honesty.
33:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it, and not saying that Dan Wilson needs
33:55
Speaker 3: to say, I haven't been holding up my end of
33:56
Speaker 3: the bargain, but we haven't been doing what we need
33:59
Speaker 3: to be doing right right, that's it.
34:02
Speaker 1: Well, the Baseball Brunch starred Cold Emerson today. It featured
34:06
Speaker 1: Rob Refsnyder today, and now we close with what we
34:08
Speaker 1: learned today, kids and the Baseball Brunch. We learned that
34:12
Speaker 1: it's not impossible to hit left handers.
34:15
Speaker 2: Oh I like that. Lesson.
34:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, two straight games against lefty starters, one a talented
34:21
Speaker 1: rookie we've never seen pitched before. So that's always difficult
34:24
Speaker 1: for major league hitters to face a guy they've never
34:26
Speaker 1: faced Any had a funky delivery as well, and then
34:28
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Springs who also has a funky delivery and has
34:31
Speaker 1: been very good so far this year. And yet two
34:35
Speaker 1: games back to back against lefties, Rob Refsnighter hitting fifth,
34:38
Speaker 1: not fourth or first, fifth in the lineup, and the
34:42
Speaker 1: team produced nine runs yesterday eleven hits against lefties the
34:47
Speaker 1: day before, So maybe we have figured out that it's
34:51
Speaker 1: not impossible to hit left handers. We also learned that
34:55
Speaker 1: Logan is back, and that is refreshing to see.
34:57
Speaker 2: Yes it is, Yeah, slim pitchins. I always forget that
35:00
Speaker 2: that's his nickname.
35:01
Speaker 3: When we said it earlier, I was like, that's right,
35:02
Speaker 3: some pitch and I don't think.
35:04
Speaker 1: It's said anybody else's nickname for him.
35:07
Speaker 6: I like it.
35:09
Speaker 1: But the eris down to three point six nine. That's
35:11
Speaker 1: two great starts in a row from him. I mean,
35:13
Speaker 1: this is our opening day starter, two years in a row.
35:16
Speaker 1: He needs to be better than what he's been to
35:21
Speaker 1: this point in the season, or at least until two
35:23
Speaker 1: starts ago. But now he seems to be back on track.
35:27
Speaker 1: Seems to be the Logan that we need. And then
35:31
Speaker 1: last thing that we learned today on baseball brunches. First
35:34
Speaker 1: place is better than second place.
35:38
Speaker 2: You said that one again.
35:39
Speaker 1: First place is better than second place.
35:42
Speaker 2: Okay, and we are in and.
35:44
Speaker 3: Third place is right out.
35:50
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you when I was a kid, I
35:52
Speaker 1: kind of had to be taught that lesson because you
35:54
Speaker 1: would have those like little fairs or whatever. Yeah, and
35:58
Speaker 1: they would give out the blue ribbons and the ribbons
36:00
Speaker 1: and I don't remember what third. I don't think I
36:02
Speaker 1: ever finished third at anything.
36:03
Speaker 2: No, I think it's usually a white ribbon. I finished
36:06
Speaker 2: third a lot.
36:07
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I remember thinking as a kid,
36:10
Speaker 1: like I left like I didn't get the red I
36:13
Speaker 1: thought red was a cooler color than blue. So I
36:15
Speaker 1: didn't get the red ribbon, and I was like disappointed,
36:18
Speaker 1: And Dad was like, what's wrong with you, fool?
36:22
Speaker 7: Blue is the one you want? You, Blue is the
36:23
Speaker 7: one you want, idiot. Yeah, grow up, gotta slap some
36:29
Speaker 7: sensin me. Mom, give me the belt. This kid thinks
36:34
Speaker 7: Fred's better than blue.
36:36
Speaker 1: All right, coming up next on the radio program. You know,
36:39
Speaker 1: having a basketball team is better than not having a
36:42
Speaker 1: basketball team. Another thing that I've learned over my time
36:45
Speaker 1: on perths, just some wisdom to impart to you. Well,
36:49
Speaker 1: the team that we used to have now whar's ugly
36:52
Speaker 1: stupid colors and they're very good at what they do.
36:55
Speaker 1: But how good are they at what they do? As
36:57
Speaker 1: they get ready to possibly enter their second NBA Finals
37:00
Speaker 1: in a row. I'm gonna try to put that into
37:02
Speaker 1: perspective for you if we can stomach it. Next, Sports
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Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, Christian Caple's gonna join
37:22
Speaker 1: us at nine o'clock. Been a while since we've talked
37:24
Speaker 1: to Christian Caple. I blame him.
37:27
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's fully his fault. I'll tell him when
37:29
Speaker 3: I call him too. You know, it's about time we
37:30
Speaker 3: had Gianna Jackal. Yeah, then all your fault.
37:33
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna give him a piece of my mind,
37:36
Speaker 1: as you should spend at least three minutes giving him
37:39
Speaker 1: a piece of my mind of our fifteen minute conversation
37:42
Speaker 1: which is coming your way at nine o'clock. We certainly
37:44
Speaker 1: will talk about Apple Cup Sunday and talk a little
37:47
Speaker 1: Washington Huskies football just in general as well. We're gonna
37:51
Speaker 1: take advantage of every second we have with Christian because
37:53
Speaker 1: this time is precious. Also, ABC's of the MS come
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Speaker 1: your way in the nine o'clock hour as well tonight. Look,
38:02
Speaker 1: I get you don't even want to know about the
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Speaker 1: OKC Thunder, But just from a reasonable rational point of view,
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Speaker 1: this is been quite a series. I mean, this has
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Speaker 1: been really entertaining basketball, and these two teams are going
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Speaker 1: to dominate the sport for the next decade. So this
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Speaker 1: is going to turn into one of the great rivalries
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Speaker 1: in NBA history. Doesn't feel like it because they're not
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Speaker 1: exactly the two franch When you think of the two
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Speaker 1: franchises in the NBA, who are the first two NBA
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Speaker 1: franchises that come to mind? I doubt that the Thunder
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Speaker 1: and Spurs are the first two.
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Speaker 2: No, not, I don't.
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that. Yeah, although it depends, I guess
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Speaker 3: on who you're asking.
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Speaker 1: Just in general, just the average basketball.
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Speaker 2: Probably Celtics would be at the top of the list.
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Speaker 1: Celtics, Lakers, Bulls, you know, those are the names that
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Speaker 1: are nicks, those are the names that are probably gonna
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Speaker 1: come up first. But these two teams have the potential
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Speaker 1: to dominate going forward. And I heard a conversation today
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Speaker 1: trying to put SGA's greatness into perspective and if he
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Speaker 1: ends up winning two MVPs and two World Championships and
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Speaker 1: two NBA Finals MVPs potentially in back to back years,
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Speaker 1: I mean that puts him on a really short list
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Speaker 1: of all time greatness in the postseason. And I think
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Speaker 1: he is an all time great but I think that
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Speaker 1: the modern day game has just been built a little differently.
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Speaker 1: If you wanted to give and I know none of
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Speaker 1: you do the Oklahoma City Thunder the credit that they deserve.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely don't.
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Speaker 1: Sga obviously is great, and he's a top fifty, maybe
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Speaker 1: top twenty five basketball player of all time. But what
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Speaker 1: the true secret, Sauce is is the way Sam Presty
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Speaker 1: has built this team. He has built this team perfectly
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Speaker 1: for the modern day game.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it sucks, yeah.
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Speaker 1: But that that is why I mean, think about it.
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Speaker 1: The Bulls. No, No, let's go back even further, like
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Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics of Bill Russell. I mean, there were
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Speaker 1: five Hall of Famers and that starting lineup and then
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Speaker 1: go to the Bird Magic rivalry, which is really the
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Speaker 1: most important period of time in NBA history was Bird
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Speaker 1: Magic and most people my age can name the starting
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Speaker 1: five's off of both teams. I mean, Bird, McHale and
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Speaker 1: Parish are all Hall of famers. Danny Ainge was a
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Speaker 1: National College Player of the Year and had to fight
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Speaker 1: to get into the starting lineup for the Boston Celtics.
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Speaker 1: The Lakers, of course, worthy In Jabbar and Magic, and
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Speaker 1: then you had the Bulls teams. And even though we
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Speaker 1: already talked about the Bulls teams, they were like the
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Speaker 1: first team that was like superstars and role players. That's
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Speaker 1: how that's how you're gonna win. Here, they still had
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Speaker 1: Jordan who was great, Pippin who was great, Rod who
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Speaker 1: is great in his own funky weird way, that's great,
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Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors, Curry great, Thompson great, Durant Gray, Draymond
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Speaker 1: Green only on one side of the court great, but
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Speaker 1: they didn't need him to be great on both sides
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Speaker 1: of the court. So his greatness on defense is what
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Speaker 1: helped them become one of the great teams of all time.
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Speaker 1: So that's kind of the way it's been built. And
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Speaker 1: Sam Presty sort of had the Vision League. You know,
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Speaker 1: the way this thing's going with so many threes and
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Speaker 1: so much length, and all of these players are getting
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Speaker 1: longer and they're getting more skilled, and we've got seven
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Speaker 1: foot five inch guys that can handle the basketball now
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Speaker 1: and everybody needs to be able to shoot a three.
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Speaker 1: Even centers have to shoot threes these days. So what
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Speaker 1: he has built has really been the genius stroke of
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Speaker 1: this and that is I have a well balanced team
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Speaker 1: in every way, Like I don't have another great player
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Speaker 1: other than Sga chat Holgern's not great. He's good, yeah,
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Speaker 1: Jalen Williams is good, but he's not great. I mean,
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Speaker 1: Sga hasn't even played well in the playoffs and they've
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Speaker 1: lost twice. Jalen Williams hasn't even been available, he hasn't
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Speaker 1: been healthy for fifteen minutes in the playoffs and they've
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Speaker 1: lost twice. He's supposed to be their second best player,
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Speaker 1: but he just speaks to I've built a team perfectly
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Speaker 1: for the modern day. We're deep, everybody can shoot, everybody
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Speaker 1: can defend where long. I can match up differently because
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Speaker 1: it's all about matchups. Hub Brown taught me for years,
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Speaker 1: It's all about matchups. In the NBA playoffs, that's what matters.
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Speaker 1: I can match up against anyone because I got twelve
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Speaker 1: guys that can all play, and that's the secret sauce
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Speaker 1: to them. So Sga is benefiting. He's great, He's the
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Speaker 1: one great player on their team. But he is benefiting
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Speaker 1: from the greatness of how they have been structured, which
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Speaker 1: is why I do despite what he might be on
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Speaker 1: the verge of accomplishing, which is very rare air, I
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Speaker 1: don't put him in the Jordan category or the Lebron category.
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Speaker 1: I don't think he dominates the way that those guys do.
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Speaker 1: But he is a great player on a great team,
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Speaker 1: and that compliment that they display on a night to
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Speaker 1: night basis is what makes them special and irritatingly dominant
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Speaker 1: right now.
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Speaker 2: Irritatingly dominant.
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Speaker 3: Yes, you are correct, and it's Softy and Dick had
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Speaker 3: an argument about this because Dick, I think, had brought
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Speaker 3: up when we get the Sonics back, you know, that's
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Speaker 3: what you should be looking at, is how the thunder
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Speaker 3: have put together a team, and Softy vehemently denied for
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Speaker 3: lots of reasons. Yeah, I give him credit, but that
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Speaker 3: might be part of it. But also I think he
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Speaker 3: had some sound arguments, but I don't. I mean, I
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Speaker 3: didn't disagree with Dick that much. I thought, yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 3: what they're doing can't be argued, right, So you should
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Speaker 3: definitely shouldn't scoff at it. You shouldn't say no, we're
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Speaker 3: definitely not going to take any page out of their
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Speaker 3: book and try to build a team like that, because
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Speaker 3: you'd just be doing you'd be cutting off your nose
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Speaker 3: to bite your face. Right.
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Speaker 1: They are perfectly constructed for the modern day game of
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Speaker 1: the NBA. They really are, And and I know nobody
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Speaker 1: wants to hear that, but they are, and they're going
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Speaker 1: to be around for a while, and they're still going
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Speaker 1: to be great when the Sonics return, and it's going
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Speaker 1: to be a long time before we beat those suckers.
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Speaker 1: One day, one day, Yeah, one day they'll come back
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Speaker 1: down to Earth and all we'll be right with the world.
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Speaker 2: But or we'll just rise up to them and then
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Speaker 2: stomp on them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the lottery, of course help the Spurs
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Speaker 1: become just as dangerous going forward. So those two are
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Speaker 1: going to be around for a long That's what we're
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Speaker 1: running face long into as a member of the Western Conference.
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Speaker 1: No doubt anyway, we any chance we could be putting
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Speaker 1: the East any kind of geographical shuffle if.
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Speaker 3: We get two more teams right in Vegas, and Seattle.
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Speaker 3: Shouldn't Oklahoma City be more easty?
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