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Huddle Up | Bucky Weighs in on the Jaguars' New Regime in 2025 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought to you by the Fields
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Speaker 1: Huddle Group, Jaguar Senior writer John Oser, NFL network analyst
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Speaker 1: and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter JP Shatterick
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Speaker 1: bringing you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars. Huddle Up
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Speaker 1: starts right.
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Speaker 2: Now and welcome in.
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Speaker 3: It is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks, the audio edition
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Speaker 3: for the off season.
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Speaker 2: It is February twelfth.
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Speaker 3: JP Shaddrick, John Oser. We're at the Hyundai studios inside
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Speaker 3: the Miller Electric Center and Bucky Brooks is with us
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Speaker 3: Go to Fieldsauto dot com. Well, the super Bowl is
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Speaker 3: in the rearview, Bucky, and we are back.
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Speaker 2: How are you?
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Speaker 4: I am great with some JO is good being back JP? Like, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: super bowls in the books.
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Speaker 2: That means we can cast us and start thinking about
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Speaker 2: next year. Next year.
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Speaker 5: Next year is always comes around. And here we are.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, here we are. Combines coming up less than two weeks. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: we'll be there. We got all, We get all the
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Speaker 2: dinner reservations lined up. Yeah, everything there you go. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I think so.
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Speaker 5: Pork chop Buckle make his debut again.
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Speaker 2: I mean, man, don't need to waste time, to waste time.
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Speaker 5: I think it was a pork chop.
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Speaker 4: It was, it was. It was a pork chop. I
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Speaker 4: got tied up. I just happened to come right as
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Speaker 4: it was played.
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Speaker 2: It was beautiful, perfect time.
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Speaker 3: Hey, it's a veteran play by you. You don't just
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Speaker 3: sit there through all the all the other stuff. We'll
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Speaker 3: get to that, of course. We'll have the show at
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Speaker 3: the Combine at Radio Row in a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 2: Time plenty to get to.
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Speaker 3: Obviously, in this off season so far, plenty of change
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Speaker 3: with the coaching staff, all new, Tony Boselli is in.
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Speaker 3: They're interviewing general managers right now. And you know, it
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Speaker 3: doesn't get much more of a rebuild than all of
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Speaker 3: that Buckey all combined together. So of those three changes,
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Speaker 3: three pillars of the organization, which one should have the
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Speaker 3: most focused this offseason?
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Speaker 4: Well, it's hard to say which one should have the
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Speaker 4: most focused because they all are tied together. Tony taken
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Speaker 4: over as EVP is certainly important the things that he
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Speaker 4: is managing impacts not only the coach, but also impacts
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Speaker 4: the front office. So look, he's in a very important
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Speaker 4: and prominent role. Liam Cohen is in charge of the
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Speaker 4: stuff that happens on the field in terms of the
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Speaker 4: x's and o's, the tactics, the strategy, the culture, all
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Speaker 4: of that stuff falls on him and the general manager.
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Speaker 4: Whenever he gets in the building, he'll be in charge
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Speaker 4: of putting the pieces of the puzzle together, making sure
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Speaker 4: that the coaches have exactly what they need to be
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Speaker 4: able to execute the x's and o's. Look, I would
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Speaker 4: say this is very similar to the way government should operate,
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Speaker 4: where you have a balance the system in place. You
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Speaker 4: have these three branches, but it's really important that they
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Speaker 4: all work together for the team to operate at its best.
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Speaker 5: What's going to be the key, Bucky, I mean obviously
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Speaker 5: working together and we don't know the GM yet, but
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Speaker 5: a shot has said this being a coach centric organization,
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Speaker 5: and I know Tony is very focused on supporting Liam
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Speaker 5: Cohen's vision. How does that dynamic work and what's the
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Speaker 5: key to it? I would think just sort of knowing
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Speaker 5: going in what the mission is is priority one right, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I think it has to be established. Now.
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Speaker 4: The thing is, we could talk about being coach centric,
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Speaker 4: but it still has to be a thing that the
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Speaker 4: organization has some core values that everyone has to adhere to.
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Speaker 4: Then it's about the football people, I would say, Tony,
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Speaker 4: Liam and whoever is the general manager, making sure that
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Speaker 4: they see football out the same vision, the same viewpoint
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Speaker 4: that they believe in, the critical parts of the way
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Speaker 4: the game should be played, the people that should play it,
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Speaker 4: and all of those things that they're in alignment when
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Speaker 4: it comes to that.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that.
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Speaker 4: They won't disagree on players and those things, but the
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Speaker 4: core values of who comes into the building, what you're
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Speaker 4: building in terms of the team, all of that should
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Speaker 4: be Look, they should have common viewpoints when it comes
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Speaker 4: to that.
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Speaker 2: As it relates to Tony.
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Speaker 4: And the general manager of support and Liam Cohen, yeah,
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Speaker 4: he's the coach, so you want to make sure that
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Speaker 4: he has what he needs to be successful. And if
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Speaker 4: there is a disagreement between coach and front office, maybe
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Speaker 4: Tony can cast a deciding vote on the top or
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Speaker 4: they move on and find a player that they agree on.
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Speaker 4: It's just about having those protocols in place. That look, man,
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Speaker 4: everyone works together, everyone's.
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Speaker 2: Opinion is valued.
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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, when a decision
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Speaker 4: is made, Jaguar's decision, and all of those decisions should
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Speaker 4: be made in the interest of winning.
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Speaker 2: No hidden agendas, nothing beyond that.
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Speaker 4: It's all about making sure that the Jaguars in the
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Speaker 4: best position to win when they take the field next year.
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Speaker 5: I want to get your thoughts on Liam Cohen's offense
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Speaker 5: and sort of how that expertise translates into a new system.
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Speaker 5: But I sense Bucky, and now tell me if I'm wrong.
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Speaker 5: But in the last four or five years, you've gotten
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Speaker 5: to know Tony better than you probably did before, just
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Speaker 5: from being around him in the organization. I think fans
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Speaker 5: know Tony as the guy the here on the broadcast
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Speaker 5: and the guy they saw play. I think I'm reading
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Speaker 5: this right that you've talked to him a lot about
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Speaker 5: football and structure and organization in the last couple of years.
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Speaker 5: I have too. Tell me and tell the fans who
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Speaker 5: maybe ce seventy one is the guy in the gold jacket,
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Speaker 5: what he's going to bring to this role that matters
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Speaker 5: in terms of organization building.
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Speaker 4: Number one thing is he loves the organization, and he's
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Speaker 4: passionate about it.
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Speaker 2: There's something too coming back.
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Speaker 4: To a place where you played, it's a little special
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Speaker 4: to you want to make sure you do everything right
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Speaker 4: because it did right by you in so many ways.
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Speaker 4: From a football standpoint, Tony believes in old school football.
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's a guy that believes in physical football.
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Speaker 4: He embraces the violence of it, but he also believes
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Speaker 4: that it should be played the right way. Many look, man,
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Speaker 4: everyone is pulling the boat in the same direction.
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Speaker 2: Your teammates are valued.
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Speaker 4: It's really important that you have people that are willing
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Speaker 4: to sacrifice their own individual interests for the sake of
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Speaker 4: the team. And that doesn't even relate to the players.
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Speaker 4: That's coaches, front office people, everybody in the building. The
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Speaker 4: Jaguars are first, and everything else comes after that. As
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Speaker 4: he's learning how to kind of play his role and
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Speaker 4: how to put these things together. Alignment is everything, and
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Speaker 4: it's just really important that the communication and dialogue is
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Speaker 4: It's honest. Everyone is transparent, and if you have that
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Speaker 4: kind of communication, you have a chance to get it right.
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Speaker 2: We could talk about the core values and.
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Speaker 4: What you believe in over and over and over again,
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Speaker 4: but those things have to be more than just words
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Speaker 4: on a page. They have to be it has to
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Speaker 4: be a leaving, breathing document in terms of this is
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Speaker 4: what we believe in, this is who the Jags are,
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Speaker 4: and we should feel that.
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Speaker 2: It shouldn't be something that people have to tell us impressors.
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Speaker 4: We should be able to look at the Jaguars play
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Speaker 4: and feel what they talk about the values being.
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Speaker 2: And then it's on him to stay.
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Speaker 4: In constant communication with Liam Cohen and the Future Gym
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Speaker 4: to make sure that everything is operating smoothly and if
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Speaker 4: it isn't, to fix it right away. So look, he
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Speaker 4: has a huge role, big responsibilities, but just like he
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Speaker 4: was as a player, I think he will attack it
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Speaker 4: and his work ethic, his intelligence, his resilience will allow
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Speaker 4: him to succeed in his role.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a few organizations that have that clearly. I
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Speaker 3: mean Baltimore is one of those steelers. You know what
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Speaker 3: they're going to bring to the table. That's just a
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Speaker 3: couple of examples that the Jaguars are aspiring towards. It's
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Speaker 3: a huddle up with Bucky Brooks. You know, Liam Cohen
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Speaker 3: is thirty nine years old. So there's that Hohle Oh,
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Speaker 3: he's coming from the young as a young coach. He's
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Speaker 3: coming from LA He's in the McVeigh tree. He's gonna
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Speaker 3: do all these things on offense. But then at his
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Speaker 3: press conference and he's talking about offensive line and trench
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Speaker 3: battles and you know things that you know Tony Boselli
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Speaker 3: would talk about as well. That's part of the bringing
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Speaker 3: everybody together. But to give us your first glimpse of
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Speaker 3: Leon Cohen as the head coach and that type of messaging, Hey,
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Speaker 3: this is it still comes down to the trenches. Even
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Speaker 3: though they might do some some new kind of inventive
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Speaker 3: things on offense, it still comes down to just basics
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Speaker 3: of football.
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Speaker 2: It's always about the basics.
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Speaker 4: And to give you some context on the backstory's connection
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Speaker 4: with the LA Rams. If you know anything about the
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Speaker 4: Rams and how the Rams get down, their culture within
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Speaker 4: the building is outstanding. They are a very competitive They
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Speaker 4: create a very competitive environment.
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Speaker 2: They have alpha dogs throughout their roster.
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Speaker 4: In their locker room, they challenge each other, they hold
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Speaker 4: each other accountable. But when it comes to the ball
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Speaker 4: between the lines, it look it's about winning the line
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Speaker 4: of Scrimmage's about dominating the point of attack on offense
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Speaker 4: and defense. Liam Korn certainly learned well. He had an
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Speaker 4: opportunity to learn as the offensive coordinator at Tampa. And
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Speaker 4: when you really kind of lift up the hood and
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Speaker 4: look at the reasons behind the success of the Bucks, yes,
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Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans played a huge role in that.
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Speaker 4: But when they were struggling, they got to running the
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Speaker 4: football and they had a series of games where they're
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Speaker 4: averaging over one hundred and fifty rushing yards and a
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Speaker 4: lot of that was due to their offensive line and
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Speaker 4: offensive line that was missing key pieces.
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Speaker 2: Tristan Wurtz missed time. They had some other guys that.
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Speaker 4: Were prominent figures on the front line miss time. To me,
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Speaker 4: when you're offensive coordinator, it's still committed to running the football.
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Speaker 4: Your team is going to be good at running the football.
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Speaker 4: It becomes a priority. It's not about being interested in it,
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Speaker 4: it's about being committed. And so that allows you to
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Speaker 4: kind of go through some of those growing pains that
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Speaker 4: you have to go through to have a rough and rugged,
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Speaker 4: very physical football team that dominates the line of scrimmage.
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Speaker 4: And if you look at the Super Bowl and you
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Speaker 4: saw how the Philadelphia Eagles were able to win. That
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Speaker 4: was I would say a testament to their commitment to
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Speaker 4: building up the trenches year after year after year, investing
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Speaker 4: top picks, top first or second round picks in that
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Speaker 4: offensive line before it even became an area of need
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Speaker 4: because they believed in that. And I believe in watching
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Speaker 4: a team like that and knowing the history that Liam
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Speaker 4: Cohen has had in multiple spots, the Jaguars are gonna
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Speaker 4: get to being that kind of team, a team that
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Speaker 4: is loaded with trench warriors that embraced the physical part
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Speaker 4: of the football game.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting. I think in I guess I'm engaging
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Speaker 5: a lot of us off questions I get in the
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Speaker 5: mailbag and just the stuff I hear from fans. There's
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Speaker 5: a little bit of a perception because Liam's young, because
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Speaker 5: Liam Cohen's young, and the McVeigh tree and it's young,
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Speaker 5: that it's a passing oriented, high tech because that's what
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Speaker 5: you associated with youth. But when I listen to Liam
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Speaker 5: Cohen and the press conference and either more I read
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Speaker 5: about him and the more you sort of absorbed, there's
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Speaker 5: more substance, meaning offensive line and running game than there
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Speaker 5: is style. Even though he's got the dynamic on the
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Speaker 5: podium and all that. So I'm encouraged Bucky because it
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Speaker 5: seems like when you scratch the surface of this guy
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Speaker 5: that what you find is old school things you can
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Speaker 5: build on, meaning offensive line, the running game. I kind
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Speaker 5: of get why Tony, who's involved in the search process,
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Speaker 5: why this became some thing of hey, you know, let's
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Speaker 5: not lose this guy, Let's accelerate this. This is what
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Speaker 5: we want to be. It feels very organic in that sense.
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Speaker 2: Bucky, Yeah, very organic.
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Speaker 4: But I would say that Liam coyn, despite his age
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Speaker 4: and inexperience in the league, he has old school values.
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Speaker 2: When it comes to playing the game.
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Speaker 4: And we always talk about the cyclical nature of the league.
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Speaker 4: It went to a point where no one ever wanted
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Speaker 4: to run the ball, going to throw it on every
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Speaker 4: down in those things. But we've seen a bit of
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Speaker 4: a market correction this year where we saw prominent running
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Speaker 4: backs have great years. We saw teams that could run
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Speaker 4: the ball effectively have sustained runs in the postseason. And
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Speaker 4: the team that won it was a team that kind
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Speaker 4: of embraced a physical running game and old school defense
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Speaker 4: that relied on their front foor to do everything, and
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Speaker 4: it was a resounding success that leads other.
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Speaker 2: Teams to kind of embrace their style and copy that.
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Speaker 4: When you think about Liam coyn and I would say
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Speaker 4: the youth movement right and the mcva tree anyone who
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Speaker 4: understands Sean McVay and really the Kyle Shanahan system. Everything
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Speaker 4: is built off the running game first, complimentary passing game. Second,
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Speaker 4: all of the bills and whistles. The creativity normally from
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Speaker 4: offensive coordinators. You see that in the passing game, but
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Speaker 4: the guys that descend from this tree. The creativity is
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Speaker 4: also in the running game, whether that's using snug splits
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Speaker 4: by the wide receivers, using jet sweep fly sweep motion
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Speaker 4: with the wide receivers to distract and create explosive plays
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Speaker 4: in the run game. All of those things are by design,
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Speaker 4: but it's really about controlling the line of scrimmage, controlling
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Speaker 4: the game and then selectively taking the shots. And as
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Speaker 4: we think about building the team, because it's always players,
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Speaker 4: players over plays, it's about trying to figure out, how
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Speaker 4: can I help the quarterback play well. When we think
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Speaker 4: about Trevor Lawrence, it's about using the running game to
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Speaker 4: allow him to take deep shots down the field, something
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Speaker 4: that we haven't done enough in recent years. I would
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Speaker 4: expect this offense to feature plenty of debt to allow
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Speaker 4: player to play to his strengths as a player.
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Speaker 3: Huddle up with Bucky Brooks, JP, Shadwick, John Ozer alongside.
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Speaker 3: Let's stick into a little bit of the coaching staff.
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Speaker 3: It was announced earlier this week. Who won't go through
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Speaker 3: every single name on the list, but I mean Bucky
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Speaker 3: is really not a better place to start than with
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Speaker 3: the coordinators and we continue the offensive conversation and the
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Speaker 3: youth conversation. I mean the average age of the staff
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Speaker 3: as a whole is like forty two and a half
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Speaker 3: years old. Because Grant Yudinsky, the offensive coordinator, is twenty
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Speaker 3: nine years old. What's the story with this guy? A
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Speaker 3: fast riser and now making a the big jump?
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Speaker 2: Is the O sick? Well? The one thing that people
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Speaker 2: will tell you about is his resiliency.
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Speaker 4: If you know his story, you know how he kind
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Speaker 4: of pulled himself up by his bootstraps, how he has
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Speaker 4: really become a whiz kid like obviously working up on
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Speaker 4: the matt rue for a little bit before making his
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Speaker 4: way and finding himself with Kevin O'Connell and what the
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Speaker 4: Minnesota Vikings have been able to do, you love all
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Speaker 4: of that.
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Speaker 2: I think some of the desire to.
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Speaker 4: Have a coaching staff that's a little younger taking on
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Speaker 4: the offense side of the balls. The energy, not necessarily
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Speaker 4: the connectivity, because I'm not a believer that young players
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Speaker 4: can't connect with an older coach, But I think it's
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Speaker 4: the energy and the exuberance that all of these guys
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Speaker 4: are going to bring. When you think about a team
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Speaker 4: that has lost a ton over the last two years,
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Speaker 4: some of this is about repairing the confidence and the
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Speaker 4: bruised feelings that these players have, and so it's being demanding,
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Speaker 4: not necessarily demeaning, but look getting them going.
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Speaker 2: And making sure that their urgency is there.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes their urgency demands a little more exhorting and demands some.
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Speaker 2: Energy.
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Speaker 4: Things that you have to do as a young person,
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Speaker 4: and maybe you don't have the same zest to do
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Speaker 4: when you're older.
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Speaker 2: But look, I love where he's coming from. I love
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Speaker 2: the pedigree.
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Speaker 4: I also love the fact that all of these guys
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Speaker 4: are interconnected within a system that has been successful.
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Speaker 2: And I'll say this, the.
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Speaker 4: McVeigh Shanahan's system has been one that has turned average
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Speaker 4: players in.
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Speaker 2: The Pro Bowlers and Pro Bowlers into MVPs.
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Speaker 4: And so if you embrace it, and if it's executed
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Speaker 4: well with the right pieces, it allows you to have
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Speaker 4: a quarterback and playmakers that can be superstars. This coaching
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Speaker 4: staff has some of that star appeal to it too.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, clearly. I mean you could tell by the interview list.
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Speaker 5: I didn't know much about Grant and ask you before
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Speaker 5: this started.
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Speaker 2: But.
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Speaker 5: From reading about it, from talking to different people, Bucky,
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Speaker 5: it's clear that this guy. People within league circles of
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Speaker 5: off season and probably last season started telling each other
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Speaker 5: about this guy. I got the impression that if he
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Speaker 5: hadn't been a coordinator this year at age twenty nine,
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Speaker 5: he was going to be a coordinator next year at
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Speaker 5: age thirty. I mean, this was gonna happen, and happened
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Speaker 5: very quickly. So to me, it makes perfect sense. You know,
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Speaker 5: if you're gonna get a guy like this who is
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Speaker 5: clearly a rising star and clearly, as you said, a
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Speaker 5: whiz kid, you're putting together your staff now you're hoping
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Speaker 5: that you're not going to be able to hire him
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Speaker 5: his coordinator next year because you're hoping you have success
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Speaker 5: this year. So on a guy like this, sometimes you've
17:39
Speaker 5: got to sort of grab it what observers would say,
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Speaker 5: a year early, because if you want to get your chance,
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Speaker 5: you're hoping that you don't need a coordinator for at
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Speaker 5: least two more years, So you've kind of got to
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Speaker 5: get it while the iron's hot. I have zero problem
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Speaker 5: with the move, and I'm like you, I don't believe
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Speaker 5: in I watched Tom More in Indie connect with young
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Speaker 5: players and they loved him and treating like a father
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Speaker 5: to this. Today, you can reach guys no matter what age.
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Speaker 5: It's about the personality, not the age. That being said,
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Speaker 5: I have no problem with twenty nine because I don't
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Speaker 5: think there's any magic to a fifty five year old
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Speaker 5: head coach over a twenty eight year old head coach.
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Speaker 5: I mean not head coach, but a twenty eight year
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Speaker 5: old coach.
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Speaker 2: No look I'm with you on all of that.
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Speaker 4: And here's the thing that I will say when you
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Speaker 4: talk about him being a whiz kid in those things,
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Speaker 4: he is protected because this in essence is like bowling
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Speaker 4: with bumpers. Even though he's the offensive coordinator entitle, Liam
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Speaker 4: Cohen is going to be the play caller, so Grant
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Speaker 4: will have an opportunity to fully grow in that role.
18:49
Speaker 4: It's about organizing and putting together. It's about maybe running
18:53
Speaker 4: some of the installed meetings, making sure everyone understands the
18:56
Speaker 4: finer details of that. It's about being another set of
18:59
Speaker 4: eye and another voice to the head coach and play
19:02
Speaker 4: caller and Liam Cohn. All of those things matter because
19:06
Speaker 4: as a head coach and play caller, it's hard to
19:09
Speaker 4: completely dedicate.
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Speaker 2: All of your time to the offense.
19:13
Speaker 4: You got to be able to manage the entire team, offense, defense,
19:15
Speaker 4: special teams. That then will give Grant the opportunity to
19:20
Speaker 4: kind of step into that leadership role and present and
19:23
Speaker 4: do those things. So we can talk about being twenty
19:25
Speaker 4: nine and really being positioned in the perfect place for
19:29
Speaker 4: him to grow professionally, not only as the leader of
19:33
Speaker 4: a unit, but as someone who maybe eventually has an
19:36
Speaker 4: opportunity to call plays and really put it together.
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Speaker 2: Uh, in the vision that this team sees fit.
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Speaker 5: It's gonna be weird around here JP not having to
19:43
Speaker 5: talk about.
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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, exactly. That was the storyline the last two
19:51
Speaker 3: years around here.
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Speaker 2: Who is it? Don't know? Answer? Answer? And then I
19:56
Speaker 2: have time. Yeah. I mean now that we're like we
19:59
Speaker 2: move from that.
20:00
Speaker 4: Like, it's really important that early you established those lines,
20:04
Speaker 4: and I think lim Going did a great job and
20:06
Speaker 4: the press are talking about that.
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Speaker 2: Man.
20:08
Speaker 4: Just eliminate as many distractions as you can. When it
20:12
Speaker 4: comes to being the head coach. It's hard enough to
20:14
Speaker 4: win games in this league. It's even harder when you
20:17
Speaker 4: have soap opera storylines hanging over the team.
20:20
Speaker 2: Eliminate all that.
20:22
Speaker 4: Established a clear pecking order in terms of how things
20:25
Speaker 4: are going to be done, so that everyone in the
20:27
Speaker 4: building and outside the building knows, uh where everything lies.
20:32
Speaker 2: If you do that, then you have a chance to
20:33
Speaker 2: be really, really good defensively.
20:35
Speaker 3: Anthony Campanelli, the defensive coordinator coming in Bucky, and we
20:41
Speaker 3: had a chance to visit with him the other day
20:43
Speaker 3: and you can feel his energy and you know he
20:47
Speaker 3: doesn't take much bs for lack of a better term
20:51
Speaker 3: he's gonna tell it out is on defense, and I
20:54
Speaker 3: think that should resonate in the room.
20:57
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would have resonate in the room, but I
20:59
Speaker 4: think more important, like it's not only his energy and
21:01
Speaker 4: what he believes in, but I'm say this style of
21:03
Speaker 4: play is very collegiate in terms of what they want
21:06
Speaker 4: to do. Jeff Afflee, the defensive coordinator for the Green
21:09
Speaker 4: Bay Packers, is a guy who has spent time not
21:12
Speaker 4: only in the pros, but also in college, and so
21:14
Speaker 4: this system is refined. When he was at Boston College,
21:17
Speaker 4: they did a really a lot of blitzing with zone
21:20
Speaker 4: behind it, eyes on the ball, and those things that
21:23
Speaker 4: carried on to when they went to the Green Bay Packers.
21:26
Speaker 4: They want to bring five and six, but keep eyes
21:28
Speaker 4: and vision on the quarterback so you can rally and tackle.
21:32
Speaker 4: Is very similar in a way to what John Osier
21:36
Speaker 4: experience when he would watch the Tony Dungee teams in
21:39
Speaker 4: terms of how they want to play fast because the
21:42
Speaker 4: eyes are on the ball more zone than man demand.
21:45
Speaker 4: But it's really about effort and execution and finding a
21:48
Speaker 4: way to get to the ball and knock the ball out.
21:51
Speaker 4: If they're able to do those things they can have success.
21:54
Speaker 4: And the linebacker coach who introduced himself to me last
21:58
Speaker 4: year at the Combine, I can't remember his last name,
22:01
Speaker 4: but he was the defensive coordinator for Jeff Haffley at
22:04
Speaker 4: Boston College. And so it's really important that the people
22:09
Speaker 4: along the chain understands the ins and outs of the system.
22:13
Speaker 4: And when I looked at the way this staff has
22:15
Speaker 4: been put together because not only him, it's Ron Milis
22:18
Speaker 4: who comes from spending time with Gus Bradley in Indianapolis.
22:21
Speaker 2: Where they were more zone based than man based.
22:24
Speaker 4: It's having everybody on the same page so that this
22:28
Speaker 4: team can execute it at a high level. And I'm
22:31
Speaker 4: gonna say this, like, these guys are really good teachers.
22:34
Speaker 4: They're very experienced in terms of how long they've been
22:36
Speaker 4: in the league and what they've been asked to do.
22:38
Speaker 4: And I just in knowing the personalities of the team,
22:42
Speaker 4: I feel like there'd be a really good connection between
22:45
Speaker 4: coaches and players and hopefully that translates into really efficient
22:49
Speaker 4: and effective play.
22:50
Speaker 3: That linebackers coach you're talking about for the Jags, Tim Locabu.
22:54
Speaker 4: Who was yeah, Tim mccabu, Yeah, he was the defense
22:56
Speaker 4: coording at the Boston College under Jeff Haffley. And so
22:59
Speaker 4: when we think about all of the system and being
23:01
Speaker 4: able to put it together is really important because it's
23:04
Speaker 4: not only that the macro with the groups is being
23:06
Speaker 4: able to go in those meeting rooms and give the
23:08
Speaker 4: explanations to the micro units to be able to really
23:11
Speaker 4: detail it out so everyone knows exactly what they're doing
23:13
Speaker 4: and how they're supposed to do it.
23:16
Speaker 5: I want to get back to what you were talking
23:18
Speaker 5: about with the scheme, because I'm not smart enough to
23:21
Speaker 5: be able to dissect it the way you can, Bucky.
23:23
Speaker 5: But I remember when the Jags were playing the Packers
23:25
Speaker 5: last year, Jeff Logoman and Tony talking a lot about
23:29
Speaker 5: their scheme, which they do every week. Maybe a little
23:34
Speaker 5: more about the Packers pretty innovative. Can you break that
23:39
Speaker 5: down a little more? What's different about it? Maybe that
23:42
Speaker 5: fans can grasp and a nun skull like me can grasp.
23:48
Speaker 4: First thing that's going to stand out is more zone
23:52
Speaker 4: than man. And one of the reasons why they want
23:55
Speaker 4: to play more zone is because the more odds that
23:58
Speaker 4: you have on the quarterback are more.
23:59
Speaker 2: Likely or to get interceptions.
24:01
Speaker 4: If this was baseball, they always talk about in baseball,
24:04
Speaker 4: you steal basis off the picture, not to capture many
24:07
Speaker 4: My eyes are on the picture when he goes into
24:10
Speaker 4: the windup, I take off.
24:11
Speaker 2: Very similar in football.
24:13
Speaker 4: If my eyes are always on the quarterback when he
24:15
Speaker 4: begins his wind up, I get early breaks. So it's
24:18
Speaker 4: the faster reactions to the ball, the rally and tackle.
24:22
Speaker 4: All of those things are designed to do it. The
24:25
Speaker 4: creativity of the scheme allows you to play with multiple packages.
24:30
Speaker 2: Look man, whether it's a.
24:31
Speaker 4: Two d lineman, four linebacker front with nickel behind it,
24:35
Speaker 4: whether it's a four man front and a traditional nickel package.
24:39
Speaker 4: Is being able to take all of the talents of
24:41
Speaker 4: the people that you have on defense and utilize them.
24:44
Speaker 4: For so long, there's been a sense of frustration that
24:46
Speaker 4: some of the Jaguars top picks have not been deployed
24:50
Speaker 4: in the positions that they really did in college that
24:54
Speaker 4: made them valued what they were valued or earned them
24:57
Speaker 4: the high grades and the draft.
24:58
Speaker 2: Maybe you'll see some of those those guys used.
25:00
Speaker 4: A little differently to really maximize the strength of their
25:04
Speaker 4: talents and give them an opportunity to play at a
25:06
Speaker 4: high level because you're asking them to do things that
25:09
Speaker 4: they can do really well.
25:11
Speaker 3: It's touching a couple of other of these position coaches
25:13
Speaker 3: and we'll get out of here for the week and
25:16
Speaker 3: there will be a lot of focus on the offensive line.
25:18
Speaker 3: Sean Sarrett takes over that position group. John Osier's guy.
25:22
Speaker 3: Edgar Bennett is the wide receivers coach Bucky and he's
25:26
Speaker 3: back in Jacksonville, his hometown.
25:27
Speaker 2: That's your guy too, Yeah, that is my guy.
25:30
Speaker 4: So Edgar Bennett and I played together for a long
25:32
Speaker 4: time in Green Bay. I sent a message to cav
25:35
Speaker 4: that EB taught me how to be a pro like.
25:38
Speaker 4: He is a consumman professional in terms of what he does.
25:41
Speaker 4: Comes early, very diligent, He is a great teacher, and
25:44
Speaker 4: I think anyone who knows Ebe or wants to know
25:47
Speaker 4: about Eb's journey.
25:48
Speaker 2: As a coach.
25:49
Speaker 4: This was a really good running back who coached running
25:52
Speaker 4: backs for the first few years of his career. He
25:54
Speaker 4: made the switch over to wide receiver because he he
25:57
Speaker 4: had aspirations of being an opensive coordinator, which he was
26:00
Speaker 4: under Mike McCarthy for a while. He is really good
26:03
Speaker 4: with wide receivers in terms of run after catch and
26:06
Speaker 4: also understanding and teaching and conveying to them the importance
26:11
Speaker 4: of toughness and physicality on the perimeter as it relates
26:14
Speaker 4: to blocking. If you want big runs and UH on
26:17
Speaker 4: your offense, your wide receivers have to block down the field.
26:20
Speaker 4: Eb's going to get those guys to not only block,
26:23
Speaker 4: but he's gonna get them to play a.
26:24
Speaker 2: Little tougher on the perimeter because it's demanded.
26:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, Edgar is an absolute I mean when I was
26:30
Speaker 5: starting out covering high school sports, Edgar was already at
26:32
Speaker 5: FSDU and UH an absolute legend in Jacksonville. People who
26:37
Speaker 5: don't know played with Leroy Butler uh at FSU and Lee.
26:42
Speaker 5: Uh back when it was Lee, it's it's now Riverside.
26:45
Speaker 2: Uh.
26:45
Speaker 5: Some legendary teams and uh, nothing but a class act.
26:49
Speaker 5: And UH, I know people around Jacksonville will be happy
26:52
Speaker 5: to have him back.
26:53
Speaker 2: Yeah. A great dude.
26:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, really excited like all those guys, like like I
26:57
Speaker 4: talked about Ron Miles, I talked about Uh, Edgar Bennett, Like,
27:00
Speaker 4: what they put together is a really balanced staff. I'm
27:04
Speaker 4: looking forward to see it all come together. And as
27:06
Speaker 4: we talked about Tony Bricelli being in an elevated role,
27:09
Speaker 4: eventually you get a general manager in there. I just
27:12
Speaker 4: think the new energy in the building would go a
27:16
Speaker 4: long ways towards not only turning it around this year,
27:19
Speaker 4: but hopefully having a sustained run of success in Jacksonville.
27:23
Speaker 5: Back here before we get out, we'd be remiss with
27:25
Speaker 5: the GM search going on. What's the I mean, broadbrush,
27:30
Speaker 5: we have time to get into very much too. What's
27:33
Speaker 5: the key? When you already have a coach in place,
27:36
Speaker 5: you already have an e VP. Uh, how do you
27:40
Speaker 5: envision this? Just give me sort of a quick synopsis
27:42
Speaker 5: of what's going on this week.
27:43
Speaker 2: The key number one thing. Number one thing has to
27:45
Speaker 2: be a good teammate.
27:47
Speaker 4: And when I mean being a good teammate, everyone needs
27:49
Speaker 4: to be able to play well in the sandbox together EVP,
27:52
Speaker 4: head coach, general manager. Secondly, they all need to see
27:55
Speaker 4: football the same, uh they all has. There has to
27:58
Speaker 4: be a base philosophy that they believe that you win
28:01
Speaker 4: games at the highest level of doing X, Y and Z,
28:04
Speaker 4: and that the players that you acquire fit that mantra
28:08
Speaker 4: and fit that mold.
28:09
Speaker 2: If you have those things, you can do it.
28:12
Speaker 4: But really being a good teammate, being a great listener,
28:15
Speaker 4: making sure that it's not about your own individual ego.
28:19
Speaker 4: All those things matter, and as the three Tony, Liam
28:23
Speaker 4: and the new GM work together, it is about putting
28:25
Speaker 4: the Jaguars first and your individual interests and agendas behind.
28:29
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think JP because and I we'll close, but
28:33
Speaker 5: because GM has been a little bit of a a
28:38
Speaker 5: all powerful position here in the past, and the people
28:42
Speaker 5: are kind of thrown by the fact that it's getting
28:44
Speaker 5: hired after the head coach. To me, if you look
28:46
Speaker 5: around the league, this is not an unusual scenario at all,
28:50
Speaker 5: so it makes a lot of sense. I just kind
28:52
Speaker 5: of wanted Bucky to sort of speak to that a
28:53
Speaker 5: little bit, so it makes sense to me.
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Speaker 3: Coordinators speaking with the media on Thursday ten am, will
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Speaker 3: have the four of you on Happy Hour Radio. That's
29:01
Speaker 3: a four o'clock start on ten to next l A. M.
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Speaker 3: Logman and I will be there. We'll be back on
29:07
Speaker 3: here next week. Bucky, great to see you and talk
29:10
Speaker 3: with you again.
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Speaker 2: Hey man, it'd be fun. Look good for to seeing
29:13
Speaker 2: you guys in a couple weeks of the comet.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bucky Brooks shadows here, I'm JP Shaddwick. Thanks to
29:18
Speaker 3: Joe Fortunado Reaver, our entire crew and Thanks to you
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Speaker 3: for listening to huddle up with Bucky Brooks