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Overflowing Peace: Psalm 23, Quiet Waters & The Shepherd Who Stays with Tara Dew! · Anchored by the Sword

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  Thank you for joining me on this episode of the Anchor by the
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  Sword podcast. I pray that today's episode will
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  leave you encouraged and also challenged in your faith.
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  And I pray that. You would take.
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  The stories that are talked about here today and share them
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  with other people. Thank you so much for joining me
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  and enjoy today's episode. Hey guys, welcome to this
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  episode, the Anchor by the Sword podcast.
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  I am here today with Tara due and she had a book come out at
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  the end of last month. It's called overflowing peace,
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  what God says about a peace field life.
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  And I'm super excited to learn more about her, her book and
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  just all of the things. So, Tara, thank you for joining
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  me today. Oh, Gina, I'm so glad to be here
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  with you and everybody who's listening to your podcast.
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  It really is such a gift to be here.
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  Can you tell my listeners a little bit about yourself?
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  Sure. So my name is Tara Do.
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  I am the president's wife of Jamie.
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  He is the president of New Orleans Baptist Theological
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  Seminary and Level College. We have been here in New Orleans
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  for 6 1/2 years and we get to just train up men and women who
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  are called to gospel ministry and who will take the gospel of
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  Jesus into some of the most dark and broken places around the
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  world. I get to teach here, I get to
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  love on our students and it is a great joy of our life.
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  In addition to that, I am the mom of two sets of twins.
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  We have 18 year old boy girl twins.
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  They are freshmen in college. Their names are Natalie and
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  Nathan. And then I have 15 year old
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  twins, Samuel and Samantha who actually will be turning 16 next
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  week. So the week of the podcast, they
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  will be 16 and they are sophomores in high school.
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  So our life is full and busy and loud and we bring a party
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  wherever we go. But I love being a wife and a
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  mom and getting to teach God's word and share His word,
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  especially with ladies all around the country, both in the
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  written form and in teaching. So it's great to be here today
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  and getting to talk about overflowing peace with you.
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  I love that. And two sets of twins, yes.
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  Wow, that you don't hear about that very often.
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  No one doctor told us it might be like one in 800,000 that have
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  two sets of natural spontaneous fraternal twins.
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  And so we are pretty special and I absolutely love being a twin
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  mom. It is great.
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  That's. Awesome.
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  Yeah, my husband is a twin. Oh, so it's really special.
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  And the bond that they have with their twin is really, really
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  special. I wish everybody could
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  experience it so. Yeah, well, one of my best
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  friends and I, we joked that we were basically born of different
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  families, but the same because, I mean, people have even told us
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  like with our hair and our wearing glasses, like we could
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  almost look alike. And like there's been so many
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  times that will literally say the exact same thing at the
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  exact same time without even looking at each other.
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  And we're just like, OK, there you go.
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  The same brain. That's scary for everybody.
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  That's. Right.
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  That's right. I love that.
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  So, Tara, let's talk about your personal freedom story.
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  OK, so I was freed from perfectionism when I was a
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  little girl. I always wanted to be the best.
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  I wanted to be good. I wanted to be perfect, I wanted
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  to make the best grades, and on and on.
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  All honesty, I was probably trying to earn my way to heaven
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  and be good enough for God. But I went to a Billy Graham
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  crusade when I was in elementary school with my mom, with my
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  grandma, and I learned there that none of us can be good
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  enough. None of us are righteous on our
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  own. Even the good things we do are
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  not good in God's eyes. And that he loved us so much, He
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  sent Jesus for us. And so when I was six years old,
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  five, almost 6, I accepted Jesus to be my Savior and he freed me
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  from a life of perfectionism. I still want to do everything
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  with excellence before the Lord, but it's not the same striving
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  that I had when I was really little because I know I couldn't
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  be good enough for God. And so, so now I just get to
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  rest and what Jesus did for me and accepted that gift of
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  salvation. And he has brought freedom in my
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  life in amazing ways because now I just get to be his daughter
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  who's loved not for what I do, but because Jesus's blood covers
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  me. I love that.
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  Thank you so much for sharing. I, my husband and I've talked
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  about it many times because we've been to the Billy Graham
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  Library. How cool it would have been.
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  Yeah, how cool it would have been to get to go to one of his
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  crusades. Oh, he had a way of just
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  speaking the truth in a way a child could understand, or
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  somebody who is an adult. He just had such a way of
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  conveying God's amazing love for people.
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  And I honestly think that's one of the things that just drew
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  thousands to come to Christ because he just explained how
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  much God loved us and how there's nothing we could do that
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  could earn that. Because I think in our human
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  nature, we want to, we want to be good enough.
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  We want to earn it. We want to strive for that.
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  But when you are released from that and you realize he loves us
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  and died for us not because of how good we were but just
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  because he loved us, it changes everything.
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  Absolutely. By chance, are you a first?
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  Born I am. Too.
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  And that is our tendency, our natural tendency to be that, you
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  know, perfectionist, that Type A personality does everything
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  right. And I'm so thankful because even
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  though now I still have that personality, now I think, you
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  know what, it's not for me anymore.
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  It's not to be good enough for me.
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  It's to be to be excellent for the Lord and do everything I can
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  to be excellent for Him. Absolutely.
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  I just, I I wanted to ask that because I've I've been the same
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  way. Yes.
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  Throughout like people pleasing. Yes.
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  I had my perfectionist time probably until about 40.
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  Once I hit 40, there was a lot of things that went away in my
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  head. Not just the brain fog, but
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  just. You know what?
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  As we get older, we get wiser, right, Gina?
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  That's what we're going to say now.
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  We just know that we are wiser. We don't have to strive for the
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  lesser. Things right, right.
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  And, and we kind of stop, I don't want to say we stopped
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  carrying what others think, but we stopped putting so much
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  pressure and so much emphasis on what other people think.
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  There's always still that part that wants to please and make
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  sure that people like us and that kind of stuff.
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  But we also start to learn they're not in my daily life.
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  Like they may be the person who's in my path at this point,
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  but they're not God. So I don't, I don't have to
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  worry. If they're mad at me this
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  second, that's OK. His opinion of us is really the
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  only one that matters. Right.
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  Exactly. Yeah.
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  So what Bible verse or verses are your anchor verses?
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  Oh, you know, in different seasons of my life, I have had
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  different ones. When I was in middle school and
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  high school and really felt a call to ministry.
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  First Timothy 412 was really my anchor verse.
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  You know, don't people discourage you because of your
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  youth as an example in life and speech and love and faith and
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  impurity? And so that one was so crucial
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  for me in the beginning because even though I was young, God was
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  calling me to leadership and to set an example.
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  And for a lot of my 20s and 30s, I loved John 15 verse 5 where
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  Jesus says I am the vine and you are the branches.
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  Whoever abides in me will bear much fruit, but apart from me
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  you can do nothing. And it was really just this time
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  of just deepening my relationship with the Lord and
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  learning how to commune with him and depend on him.
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  And honestly, now that I've written Overflowing peace, I
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  love Psalm 23, verse one. The Lord is my shepherd.
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  I have everything I need because he is our God, because he is our
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  shepherd, then we don't have to strive or be anxious or fearful
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  about anything because in him he's given us everything we
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  need. And so those are three verses
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  throughout my life that have just really been so special to
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  me and ones that I I really cling through in different
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  seasons. Those are all such great verses
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  and I know I became a Christian when I was 16, and so at the
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  time I wanted to do youth ministry.
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  Yes. And that only lasted so long.
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  I told you I went to Venezuela in 99, so it was right when I
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  was starting college. I was a couple years into
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  college at that point and I realized very quickly that youth
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  was not my line. Like that was not where I was
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  supposed to go because I can only handle so much of children
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  and so much of specially teenage children.
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  I have 5 nephews and three of them are teenagers and then two
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  of them are actually adults now. So like I can only handle so
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  much. I was like that was not my
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  gifting so. One thing I love is that as we
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  walk with the Lord, He clarifies our ministry and what He wants
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  us to do, and He weighs nothing. He absolutely weighs nothing.
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  And so I love that you are feeling that call.
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  And then God clarified that for you and is now giving you
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  another ministry. He's good at that.
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  He is very good at that, absolutely.
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  So you mentioned Psalm 23 and the fact that you're book about
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  overflowing peace. It goes into Psalm 23 in a deep
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  way. Can you talk about what made you
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  write this book and also how you knew it was time to come out?
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  Sure. Well, honestly, I love being a
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  Bible teacher and author. I love speaking and and talking
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  to people face to face. And so I really never aspired to
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  be a writer because I'm such an extrovert.
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  But my publisher came to me Lifeway, and they said, we
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  really would like you to write down some of the messages that
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  you're bringing to churches and to women.
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  Because a book is a little missionary that can get to
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  places that you can't feel that. I mean, Gina, you're in Ohio.
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  Your listeners are all over, right?
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  I'm in New Orleans and I might never get a chance to really
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  meet you or talk to you face to face, but a book really can.
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  It can get into the hands of anyone who has Amazon or a
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  computer to order things or lifeway.com.
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  And so I really prayed about that and felt like, OK, Lord,
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  I'm going to take the step of obedience to write down some of
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  the messages that I've been giving at churches.
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  And so in 2023, I wrote down Overflowing Joy, which was my
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  first book, and that walks through John chapter 15, verses
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  that were so, so special to me, but also that I was teaching a
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  lot in churches. And then in 2024 when that book
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  came out, they came back to me and they said, OK, we want you
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  to write another one. What's something else that
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  you're talking about in churches?
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  And I said Psalm 23. So the manuscript for Psalm 23
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  was turned in in 2025, and it is now out in book form here in
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  2026. And what I love is that both of
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  them walk verse by verse through these metaphors really, that
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  Jesus gives us to help us understand what a true life in
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  Him looks like. You know, so often we live in a
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  joyless and peaceless world, but Jesus has, it doesn't have to be
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  this way. I have come to give you life and
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  life abundantly. He says in John 1010 and in John
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  15 verse 11, he talks about us having a joy that's overflowing.
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  And then in Psalm 23, it talks about our cups running over
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  basically a life of overflowing peace.
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  And so that's really where these two books came from, as those
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  words in both John 15 and Psalm 23 that talk about just having a
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  life that is overflowing and abundant, not because of things
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  that we can do, but because of what God does in US.
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  And so I often like to say the books kind of found me.
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  I didn't go seeking them out what I was teaching at churches,
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  but also this message that the publishers wanted to just be
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  able to get into the hands tons of men and women that I wouldn't
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  be able to serve otherwise. I love that.
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  And like you said, a book. A book can reach so many
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  different places. It's it's insane.
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  Same with this podcast. I've told people that I sit in a
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  room and a little room in North Canton.
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  OH and the fact that it has reached over 79 different
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  countries just blows my mind and I'm so grateful for each person
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  who tunes in. And it's been.
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  It's been such a fun ride for like 5 years.
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  I love that. And it's, I don't know, it's
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  just so much fun. And I'm, I'm, I'm an extrovert
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  and a teacher as well. I'm starting to do speaking, so
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  it's a new venue for me, a new venture.
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  But yeah, just trying to learn how to have peace as you walk
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  through each thing that God is calling you to.
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  That's in a new season. I.
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  Think that with with this book, I think that'll really help
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  people as well. So what is the general setup of
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  your book? So in the book, it's got 10
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  chapters and each chapter walks through a different image that
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  David uses in the 23rd Psalm that describes who our God is.
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  So as we walk verse by verse, we're looking at these different
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  images that are kind of familiar to us.
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  But because we don't live in an Agricultural Society anymore,
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  because we're not familiar with shepherds and sheep actually
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  miss the truths that are tucked in it if we're not careful.
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  So it is a very slow walk through Psalm 23 where we're
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  looking at 10 different images that David uses in Psalm 23 to
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  tell us about who our God is. And I talk a lot about shepherds
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  and sheep and what they did and their nature and the instruments
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  they use. Because otherwise, in 2026, we
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  might miss some of those truths that are tucked into there
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  because don't know, we're not shepherds.
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  We don't live in fields with our sheep.
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  So we miss these beautiful truths about God if we don't
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  walk really slowly through it. But each chapter is short.
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  It could be tacked on the end of a quiet time.
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  It could be read in a carpool line.
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  It could be read in the bathtub. It could be read over a lunch
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  break. And then at the end of every
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  chapter, there are some more verses that kind of go into that
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  idea or that theme more. And then there's a couple of
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  questions that you can either answer individually or you could
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  answer with a group, like if you wanted to do it as a book club
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  or a Bible study, where you could then go into those more of
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  discussion questions with other ladies.
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  So I really wrote it so that it would be very accessible and
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  easy for people to read through, but also to understand these
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  beautiful images of Psalm 23. So what was one or two of your
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  favorite chapters to write? Oh my goodness, each one just
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  blew my mind. But why don't we start at the
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  beginning? Because the Lord is my shepherd.
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  I have what I need. That's such a beautiful picture
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  Because the word that David uses there for the Lord, it is the
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  name for God, Yahweh. It is the covenant promise
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  keeping God, name for God that he gave to his people.
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  It's it signifies his Almighty nature, his omniscience, his
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  omnipresence, his omnipotence. He is all powerful, He is all
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  knowing, He is always with us. And David uses this powerful
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  name for God and then says he's my shepherd.
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  So it takes this beautiful picture of who our God is and
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  says, but yet he's mine and he knows me.
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  And he says, and because of that I have everything I need.
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  I lack nothing, I shall not want.
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  And and so it's beautiful because in Scripture, God calls
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  himself the shepherd of his sheep over and over and over
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  throughout the Old Testament. And then Jesus in the New
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  Testament will say, I am the Good Shepherd, right?
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  I laid down my life for the sheep.
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  And so just this image about how the Lord is my shepherd is a
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  perfect example of Jesus. He is the shepherd who lays down
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  his life for his sheep and because of his care for them,
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  they lack nothing. So the whole book starts there
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  with talking about us as sheep and how we need a shepherd.
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  But how then Jesus is our shepherd.
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  And then I love verse 2 because this is a beautiful picture
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  where it says he makes me lie down in green pastures.
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  Now, sheep will never lie down to sleep if they're hungry or if
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  they're scared. And so if a sheep lies down, you
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  know they have a Good Shepherd who has cared for their very
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  needs that day. And so when it says he makes me
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  lie down in green pastures, we are reminded that the shepherd
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  has provided food for their sheep and they're so full and so
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  satisfied that they can lie down.
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  We also know that they're not scared.
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  They're not scared of predators attacking them.
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  They're not scared of friction with other sheep, and they can
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  just lie down and rest. And that's a perfect
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  illustration for us of what our God does for us.
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  He says in the book of John, I'm your daily bread.
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  He has given us everything we need for that day.
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  And just like the shepherd would provide green pastures for their
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  sheep, Jesus provides for us everything that we need.
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  But in addition, we can lie down and rest because He is God and
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  we're not. We are not holding this whole
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  world together. Praise the Lord.
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  Praise the Lord we. Do not have it all together.
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  We do not have, you know, all this power and all this energy.
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  He's created us to rest and lie down at night.
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  We can lay our head on the pillows knowing He's God and
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  He's got it. And I don't have to be afraid,
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  and I can sleep in perfect peace because he is my shepherd.
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  And so Psalm 23 keeps going. We could look at the still
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  waters. We could look at the rod.
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  We could look at the staff. We could look at the paths of
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  righteousness, the table, the oil.
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  I mean, there are so many images in this Psalm that aren't just
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  perfect parallels to who Jesus is.
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  And because He is our Savior, we could have lives that overflow
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  with peace. Amen.
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  Absolutely. I am a water girl through and
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  through. You're from New Orleans, so you
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  understand that, Yes. So as soon as you said that, I
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  was like, yes, we're going to talk about the quiet waters, our
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  living water. So can you share a moment when
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  God's peace is felt like that for you?
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  Oh, absolutely. So the idea that the waters had
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  to be quiet was really important for sheep because sheep were
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  scared of loud noises. So if the water was rushing.
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  They would be too scared and they'd be overwhelmed and they
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  would not drink. But in addition, if the waters
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  were too stagnant, sheep can go to those but then be poisoned by
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  the algae and the bacteria that has grown in those stagnant
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  waters. Shepherd has to lead the sheep
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  to quiet waters or waters that are trickling but slow.
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  That's the perfect water for them.
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  My husband calls it Goldilocks water.
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  It's not, it's not too slow. It's just right.
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  And I think you and I can can think about our lives and we can
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  think about sometimes the rushingness of our lives and
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  the, the loudness of social media and TV and news articles
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  and podcasts that, you know, that are that just fill our mind
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  with worry. That can be really overwhelming
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  to us, right? And I think This is why our
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  country's having a mental health crisis, because there is just
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  all this noise and loudness all around that sometimes we want to
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  retreat to things that are poisonous to us.
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  We have an overwhelming amount of drugs and alcohol use in our
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  country right now where people are trying to drown out the
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  noise and they're using things that are poisonous to them and
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  not what God wants. And he says, come to me and you
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  will never thirst again, right? I give you living water.
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  I give you sweet water. That's another way that that
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  that phrase can be used. But just like a shepherd would
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  lead the sheep to water that was not too loud, but also not
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  poisonous for them, that's what our God does for us.
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  He doesn't want us to be consumed by the noises of this
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  world and he doesn't want us to drown out everything with poison
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  to our souls. He wants us to come to Him and
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  get a water that truly will satisfy us and be living to our
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  souls. And so, yeah, Chapter 3 is all
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  about the living water and that He gives to us, that we will
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  have everything we need. Absolutely.
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  And I love how the verses in John when he encounters the
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  Samaritan woman at the well, I love how well those correlate
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  together that you can kind of, you can bring that those two
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  verses together. And she she went there because
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  that was the still the day that was where it was peaceful
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  because she didn't want to hear judgment from other people.
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  And so that's when you were talking about ways that you can
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  retreat that are not the greatest, or you can find a way
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  to retreat in God when that noise is too much.
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  Yep, that's exactly right. I love the Samaritan woman
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  that's in John chapter 4 and it's it's neat because we're it
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  uses the word Javier, which is somebody that carries water with
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  you. And when she had no friends,
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  that means she had no Javier's no one to carry water with.
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  She was so alone. And you're right, she went in
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  the middle of the day, which was never when the women went to
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  draw a wire because she didn't have any friends and she didn't
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  want to be around other people that would talk to her about the
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  four husbands she's had, the one boyfriend she's living with now
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  and about her past. And yet the only thing she
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  brings to the well that day was her water jar.
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  And that's the very thing she leaves when Jesus explains who
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  he is to her. And then she runs to all the
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  people she didn't want to be around and said, come meet the
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  man who told me everything I ever did.
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  Love it because she was the first missionary.
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  She was the 1st who brought people to Jesus.
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  And what I love about John is he says, and some believe because
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  of what she said, but men or believed after they met him,
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  they're living there. And I love that because that's
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  who our God is. He wants us to come to him and
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  be nourished and refreshed. And that's what he gave to that
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  woman at the well that day. So it's just such a good story,
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  Gina. It really is.
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  And I think that the chosen brought it so well to life for
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  those of us who are visual people that to see her running
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  off crying and saying all that and then, yes, leaving the water
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  a joke behind. And they're like, I wonder if
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  she'll need that Jesus is all smiling.
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  And, you know, or Jonathan Romney playing Jesus is all
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  smiling. And it was just the perfect
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  picture of this. Yes, absolutely.
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  She she had found everything she had been looking for.
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  Absolutely. So you talked a little bit about
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  the noise of the world and the the mental health crises and
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  some of the things that are going on.
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  So let's talk about the peace in the dark valleys.
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  Yeah, yeah. Ari Manuel, let's talk about
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  that. Number one, the promise of God
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  being with us and also an encouragement that you would
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  have for people walking that. Absolutely.
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  So this is perhaps the most quoted Bible verse in all of the
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  Bible. It's what's read at funerals.
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  We we know this verse. But what I love about Psalm 23
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  is it's actually a Psalm for those who are living.
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  It is a way to live. And verse 4, where it says even
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  when I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, David
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  was referring to a real place, a real place that shepherds would
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  have to walk between the upper pastures and the lower pastures.
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  It's a real place in Israel that to this day at noon time,
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  there's no sunshine. There's no sunshine for 24 hours
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  a day in this valley. And this valley was scary for
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  shepherds because as they were walking their sheep from the
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  upper pastures to the lower pastures, predators could be
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  lurking in the crevices. Enemies could try to attack
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  them. And it was a place that they had
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  to walk through to get from those pastures to the green
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  pastures. And what I love is that David
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  would have walked with his sheep many times through this valley
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  of the shadow of death. But yet he says now my God has
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  done that for me. And even when I walk through
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  that valley, you're with me. And there's a beautiful change
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  that happens right there in that verse because it goes from
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  talking about the Lord and this third person to now you.
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  You are with me. Your rod, your staff, they come
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  for me. You prepare a table.
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  So there's this shift that David makes from talking about the
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  Lord to bringing him really nearby and saying you are there
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  with me. And I think it's such a reminder
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  for us. Two things that I really want to
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  say here. Number one, you are going to get
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  through that valley. It doesn't say when I stand in
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  the valley of the shadow of death, right?
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  Or when I stay in the valley. No, these shepherds knew they
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  were walking through it. And sometimes when we're going
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  through a dark valley, it can seem like it lasts forever.
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  But I want to bless you. You will get through it.
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  It's not going to be like this forever.
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  There is sunlight coming, there is joy coming, there is peace
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  coming, right? I love the verse that even says,
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  you know, even though there's mourning and weeping in the
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  night, joy comes in the morning. And that's just such a reminder
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  you will get through whatever valley you're going through.
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  The other thing that it says is even though I walk through the
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  valley, this is not sometimes going to be something that
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  happens immediately. It's not a Sprint.
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  It's not something that you run through.
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  It's not something that you try harder to just get out of.
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  Because there are lessons that the Good Shepherd teaches us
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  when we are walking through those times.
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  And so know this about your Shepherd.
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  You can have peace because he is with you.
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  And those words for you are with me is the climax of all of Psalm
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  23. The verses that lead are go up
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  before it are like leading up one side of a ladder.
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  And then those words for you are with me are like the top of the
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  ladder. And then the other verses come
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  down from it and said is the crux of the whole Psalm.
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  And we can get through the valleys because he's with us.
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  Yeah, We can lie down and rest in those green pastures because
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  he's with us. We can sit at a table in the
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  presence of our enemies because he's with us.
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  This is his omnipresence, meaning God is fully present
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  everywhere with you. So whether you're in the car or
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  whether you're in your bathroom, or whether you're in your
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  workplace or your neighborhood, God is with you.
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  And those words change everything.
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  We can have peace, not because of our circumstances, but
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  because of his presence. We can have peace because we
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  have Jesus. And that's why Jesus would say,
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  and John, you know, in this world, you will have trouble,
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  but take heart. I've overcome the world.
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  My peace I give to you. And, and honestly, we think of
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  peace as like the absence of struggles or the absence of
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  sorrow or the absence of trials. But that's what the Bible says.
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  The Bible says even when you are walking in that valley, you can
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  have peace because he's with you.
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  Even when this world has trouble, you can have peace
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  because Jesus is with you, right?
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  So it just changes everything. Absolutely.
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  I love. That so much.
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  That's such a just a beautiful reminder and I never thought of
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  it that way with Psalm 23, that it's like an up and then an over
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  and then a down. I never thought of it that way.
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  So that's a brand new way of thinking about it.
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  It's beautiful. And I didn't know that until I
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  really started studying and diving in deep, taking the slow
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  walk through each of these verses because it it just is so
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  beautiful how David writes it. And you know, a shepherd is the
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  only occupation that lives with their animals.
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  If you think about cattle, they don't have a farmer that lives
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  with them in the field since they don't have a rancher that
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  lives with them in the field, but shepherds do.
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  They live with their sheep, they eat with their sheep, they sleep
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  with their sheep because sheep are so defenseless otherwise.
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  That's our God. He never leaves us.
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  He never forsakes us. We can have comfort because He
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  is with us. And that's such a beautiful
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  thing about our God that is so different than the other gods of
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  this world, right? With a little G, right?
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  They're not omnipresent, but our God is.
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  Absolutely. So I have loved this discussion
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  in diving more into Psalm 23, also getting to learn more about
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  you and just all the different things that we got to talk about
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  today. Also, you want to talk about
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  what is coming in 2027? So in 28, overflowing love will
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  come out every two years. Overflowing joy was 2024,
• 31:28
  overflowing peace is 2026, and then overflowing love will come
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  out in 2028 but also in 2027. Yes, a Bible study on the fruit
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  of the Spirit will be coming out from Lifeway and just learning
• 31:43
  what does it mean to walk in the Spirit and grow in the likeness
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  of God? How can we as His followers show
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  and display Lovejoy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,
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  faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.
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  So yeah, a couple of things happening down the pipeline,
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  which is so exciting and just yet another way that I get to
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  serve women, especially around the world.
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  So I pray God's blessings if you happen to read or do any of
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  those on you. I love it and I can't wait to
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  have discussions about it closer to time.
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  So that would be great. Yeah, Tara, where can people
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  find you? So if you're on Facebook, I have
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  a Facebook author page. It's just my name, Tara Doo DEW,
• 32:28
  like Mountain Dew with a little hyphen and then Bible teacher
• 32:32
  and author. And on that Facebook page, I
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  will post podcast or worship songs or articles or just things
• 32:40
  that encourage me as well as my speaking schedule.
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  And that way if I'm coming near a town near you, maybe I could
• 32:46
  meet you. So if you're on Facebook, please
• 32:48
  look up that author page, Tara Do, Bible teacher and author.
• 32:52
  In addition, our seminary website, which is New Orleans
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  Seminary. You can look that up and find
• 32:58
  information about my husband and I, our podcast together and also
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  where maybe we'll be speaking together or he'll be speaking.
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  So whether on Facebook or on New Orleans Seminary, you can find
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  out more information about both of us.
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  Awesome. Thank you again so much.
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  What is the last piece of encouragement you want to leave
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  people with today? I would remind you no matter
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  where you are, no matter how exhausted or anxious or frenzied
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  you might find yourself in, I would want to remind you that
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  you have a very Good Shepherd. His name is Jesus and He loves
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  you so much. He is with you.
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  He will provide for you, He is faithful and He will guide you
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  to green pastures because He is for you.
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  So be reminded of His love and His care for you today.
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  It has been a blessing to be here with you.
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  Thank you so much again and guys have a great week and I'll talk
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