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Space Shuttle, Somali Fraudsters, SCOTUS Case · Rich Valdés: This is America!

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  Speaker 1: This is America with Rich Valdez, powered by politiweek dot
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  Speaker 1: Com and.
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  Speaker 2: Rich Valdees is with US former Christian Administration official.
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  Speaker 3: You work at Chris Christie be in full ustas on
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  Speaker 3: a lot of public service stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Rich Valdez calumnist now with the Washington Times.
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  Speaker 1: This is America, Richiev.
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  Speaker 5: You're on the air with the Nation of.
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  Speaker 1: The Nation with America with your host, Rich Valdez.
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  Speaker 6: What's up, America.
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  Speaker 4: I am Rich Valdez Valdez with an s at Rich
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  Speaker 4: Valdez on all of the social media.
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  Speaker 6: Welcome to the.
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  Speaker 4: Wednesday night edition of the program. Blessed and honored to
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  Speaker 4: be here with you. Eight seven seven Valdez one eight
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  Speaker 4: seven seven valadest one. Welcome to our late night national
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  Speaker 4: town hall conversation right here from Times Square, New York City.
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  Speaker 4: And check this out. It's uh big news today, right
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  Speaker 4: big news on all fronts. President Trump addressing the nation.
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  Speaker 4: I've got that. I've also got T minus ten seconds
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  Speaker 4: and you're thinking T minus ten seconds to what, well,
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  Speaker 4: T minus ten seconds until lift off?
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  Speaker 5: Check this out and here.
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  Speaker 7: We go ten nine eight seven rs, twenty five engines
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  Speaker 7: L four three two one, booster, Ignition and lift off.
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  Speaker 2: A good roll pitch.
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  Speaker 1: Roger right, a pitch.
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  Speaker 3: On time, passing thirty seconds to the lights. Integrity passes
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  Speaker 3: the ultimate Ego target Milestone. Mission Control Houston.
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  Speaker 1: Seeing good performance of four made engines, Space.
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  Speaker 3: Punk system core Stage Integrity three miles in altitude traveling
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  Speaker 3: more than twelve hundred miles per hour.
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  Speaker 4: That is the NASA Artemist launch that happened earlier today.
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  Speaker 4: And this is the second time the United States is
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  Speaker 4: going to the Moon. I know somebody right here, come on, rich,
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  Speaker 4: you don't really believe the first moon landing. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: tend to be on the global side of things. I
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  Speaker 4: like to believe in the matrix. So I say, yes,
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  Speaker 4: this is our second one, and Amen, Praise God, Hallowlujah.
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  Speaker 4: Now why do I say that? Well, you know one time,
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  Speaker 4: I've shared this a few times. If you're a long
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  Speaker 4: time listener, you probably heard this story three times already.
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  Speaker 4: But I once, when I served in the Chris Christian administration,
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  Speaker 4: I was invited by a colleague to attend the New
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  Speaker 4: Jersey Hall of Fame induction ceremony at New Jersey Performing
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  Speaker 4: Arts Center in Newark, New Jersey, and all sorts of
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  Speaker 4: New Jersey heroes were in the green room backstage, you know,
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  Speaker 4: waiting to be honored. I was kind of like a
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  Speaker 4: fly on the wall, like, wow, I can't believe I'm
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  Speaker 4: in here. You know, authors like Mary Higgins Clark and
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  Speaker 4: actors like Hm has a father and a son, I
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  Speaker 4: want to say. And he was married to Zaida Jones.
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  Speaker 4: I forget his name right now.
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  Speaker 5: Kurt Russell? Is that who that was? No, that was
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  Speaker 5: the other one.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it was anyway him, He was there, He was
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  Speaker 4: inducted that year at Eric LaGrand the football player was there,
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  Speaker 4: and so was doctor buzz Aldron buzz Aldrin.
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  Speaker 5: We were talking.
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  Speaker 4: We spoke for about twenty minutes, maybe closer to half hour,
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  Speaker 4: who knows. We were hanging out in the back there,
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  Speaker 4: and he was telling me all about his time being
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  Speaker 4: the second man on the moon and what that was like.
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  Speaker 4: And I thought that was pretty cool. I'll tell you
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  Speaker 4: about that in a moment. But another astronaut, Victor Glover.
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  Speaker 4: Victor Glover is the pilot of Artemis two, and he
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  Speaker 4: told a reporter who asked him a DEI question, you know,
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  Speaker 4: one of those what's it like being the first black whatever?
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  Speaker 4: And I could say I've had some experience with this, right,
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  Speaker 4: you know, being in syndicated radio, being in local radio
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  Speaker 4: in a major market like New York City, all sorts
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  Speaker 4: of things that I've done in my career. Believe it
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  Speaker 4: or not, People what's it like being the number one
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  Speaker 4: Hispanic or what's it like being the first Hispanic to.
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  Speaker 5: Do this, or blah blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 4: And I think to myself, you know, you just cheapened
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  Speaker 4: everything that I just worked for by saying the first,
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  Speaker 4: this the first, that it makes people think that you're
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  Speaker 4: only there because right. And the reality is if it
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  Speaker 4: were this easy to do and everybody would be doing
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  Speaker 4: it right, or at.
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  Speaker 5: Least the people who want to do it would do.
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  Speaker 4: It, It's not the case, right, So I think that
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  Speaker 4: shouldn't be the question, or shouldn't be the lead question.
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  Speaker 4: But that is what ended up happening here to mister
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  Speaker 4: Glover and who's quite likely a PhD in something, so
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  Speaker 4: quite likely doctor Glover. But he's about to give his
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  Speaker 4: response to this question about you know, Black History Month
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  Speaker 4: and Women's History Month, and he gives a great response.
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  Speaker 8: Listen to this A big question, and I want to
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  Speaker 8: highlight I guess maybe one's facet of this is the
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  Speaker 8: tension I call it. I live in this, you know,
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  Speaker 8: this dichotomy between happiness that a young woman and can
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  Speaker 8: look at Christina and just physicalize her passion or her interests,
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  Speaker 8: or even if it's not something she wants to do,
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  Speaker 8: she can just be like girl power and that's awesome,
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  Speaker 8: And that young brown boys and girls can look at
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  Speaker 8: me and go, hey, he looks like me and he's
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  Speaker 8: doing what and that's great.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 8: But I also hope we are pushing the other direction
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  Speaker 8: that one day we don't have to talk about these first,
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  Speaker 8: that one day this is just and I listen to this,
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  Speaker 8: that this is the human history. It's about human history.
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  Speaker 8: It's the story of humanity, not black history, not women's history,
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  Speaker 8: but that it becomes human history.
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  Speaker 4: How about that. I think I've been saying stuff like
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  Speaker 4: that for years. But he said it's so much better
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  Speaker 4: than I had to have or do. And kudos to
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  Speaker 4: him again, Victor Glover, the pilot of Artemists.
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  Speaker 5: Two.
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  Speaker 4: Excuse me, so I thought that was pretty cool. Now
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  Speaker 4: excuse me he had to clear my throat again and
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  Speaker 4: again because I'm getting my voice back. Anyway, back to
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  Speaker 4: this story. Now, I think that's important. Why because too
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  Speaker 4: many people oftentimes, Yeah, somebody, I'll preface it by saying this,
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  Speaker 4: somebody once I believe they were trying to pay me
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  Speaker 4: a compliment and not a backhanded, you know, snide remark,
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  Speaker 4: and said, wow, after listening to my show, Wow, finally
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  Speaker 4: a Latino with some sense. I really think this person
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  Speaker 4: was so dumb that they didn't realize how offensive this
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  Speaker 4: comment was. Now I don't necessarily offend easily, but I
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  Speaker 4: just thought to myself, really, you know, I was more
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  Speaker 4: offended for the rest of the world, right that had
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  Speaker 4: to see that, then for myself. But finally a Latino
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  Speaker 4: that makes some sense to make. I mean, what's Marco Rubio,
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  Speaker 4: What's Ted Cruz? There's plenty of Latinos that makes sense, right,
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  Speaker 4: So this guy's clearly just uninformed.
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  Speaker 5: He's ignorant.
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  Speaker 4: But people, I think, oftentimes just don't understand that by
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  Speaker 4: trying to include one's ethnicity, it can in fact cheap
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  Speaker 4: in the experience or be a little bit of a
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  Speaker 4: backhanded comment. And I include my ethnicity, my culture because
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  Speaker 4: I'm proud of it, because I like it, and quite frankly,
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  Speaker 4: when I was a young dad and my kids were
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  Speaker 4: watching Dora the Explorer. I thought it was great that
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  Speaker 4: Dora would, you know, teach people things. And I figured,
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  Speaker 4: you know, one of my early radio mentors told me,
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  Speaker 4: you got to teach people things. If they don't learn
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  Speaker 4: two new things at least listening to your show, you're
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  Speaker 4: not doing it right.
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  Speaker 5: And I would listen to old YouTube tapes.
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  Speaker 4: Of Bob Grant, right, and how he would get into
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  Speaker 4: these soliloquies of being discontent, right, being malcontent I should
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  Speaker 4: say about certain things, right, a caller that got on
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  Speaker 4: his nerves, or something that Governor Cuomo, the senior Mario
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  Speaker 4: Cuomo had done, and you know, and he would say things,
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  Speaker 4: you know, in Italian.
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  Speaker 5: He would grumble.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it was funny to me, It was very funny.
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  Speaker 4: It was funny to most of the audience. And I
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  Speaker 4: thought that's great.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of like he was like an old Italian
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  Speaker 4: grandpa in some ways.
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  Speaker 5: And I figured that was good shtick.
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  Speaker 4: And I really am like that at times, you know,
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  Speaker 4: when I'm shaking my head and palming my whole face
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  Speaker 4: because of I'm embarrassed for someone else's stupidity, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I am in my head thinking n even the epio,
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  Speaker 4: but sometimes they escape and sometimes they don't. Anyway, enough
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  Speaker 4: about that, let's get back to doctor Buzz Aldron. So
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  Speaker 4: I was backstage with Doctor Buzz Aldron. He was being
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  Speaker 4: honored into I think, being inducted into the New Jersey
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  Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. And because he had a connection to
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  Speaker 4: New Jersey, I lecture if he was born in New
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  Speaker 4: Jersey and then moved or had attended school in New Jersey,
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  Speaker 4: but either way, he was there.
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  Speaker 5: Really cool guy, and you know we're talking, he says.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I was supposed to be the first
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  Speaker 4: guy to come out because my last name is Aldron
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  Speaker 4: and an Armstrong, Neil Armstrong is aar and I was
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  Speaker 4: al so we figured we'll do it alphabetically, and I
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  Speaker 4: came out first, he said, But honestly, I was scared.
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  Speaker 5: I was scared. I was like, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: He's like I pretended like I was deferring to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Neil Armstrong, but I said, go right ahead, you go.
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  Speaker 4: So he let Neil Armstrong go and be the first
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  Speaker 4: man to walk on the moon, and he went behind him,
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  Speaker 4: and being the second man. Then he also added a
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  Speaker 4: couple of things and I don't know if it was
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  Speaker 4: you know, hyping it up or whatever, but a couple
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  Speaker 4: of days he shared that I believed, you know, he said,
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  Speaker 4: I was very curious to see what gravity was like.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we had some sense, but we were in
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  Speaker 4: these moonsuits, and he said there was like a vacuum shoot,
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  Speaker 4: like a container where you could get things out of
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  Speaker 4: your suit, he said, So he decided to own the
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  Speaker 4: title of the first guy to urinate on the moon,
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  Speaker 4: and he did, and he said it floated away, So
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  Speaker 4: that was pretty funny. Something else that he said he did,
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  Speaker 4: and I think this is appropriate being a holy week,
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  Speaker 4: he said that he took communion with him just in
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  Speaker 4: case it was going to be his last, and he
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  Speaker 4: had a communion wafer and some Saint Joseph's communion wine
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  Speaker 4: with him, and he did that, and he took communion
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  Speaker 4: while on the moon. So I thought that was a
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  Speaker 4: really cool story that I hadn't seen anywhere before. So
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  Speaker 4: I kind of felt special that buzz Aldron told me
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  Speaker 4: this stuff. I'm sure he's told you know that story
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  Speaker 4: a thousand times. But bottom line, it was a great
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  Speaker 4: story and it was great to meet buzz Aldrin. Honestly,
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  Speaker 4: to date, he's only the only astronaut I've ever met
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  Speaker 4: like face to face and shaking their hand. So kudos
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  Speaker 4: to the United States for going back to the Moon
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  Speaker 4: and in my opinion, winning the space race, both for
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  Speaker 4: science and for military like we do with the Space Force.
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  Speaker 4: And in a little bit we're going to have President Trump, right,
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  Speaker 4: good old President Trump's going to be weighing in on
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  Speaker 4: what's up with Iran. I guess another ultimatum or maybe
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  Speaker 4: some good news like a deal. What else did I
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  Speaker 4: want to talk about? There was something else here. Let
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  Speaker 4: me look at my notes stand by Spaceship to the Moon,
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  Speaker 4: Artemis Trump's speech.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, the Supreme Court ruling. We're gonna get to that.
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  Speaker 4: Doug Burns is going to join us, and we're going
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  Speaker 4: to break that down as well. And I think it's
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  Speaker 4: probably a good time for me to take a little
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  Speaker 4: right back. We're gonna talk a little bit about Somali fraud.
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  Speaker 4: Why do they let these fraudsters go? What's up with
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  Speaker 4: all of that?
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  Speaker 5: Right? That's what I want to know. So we're gonna
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  Speaker 5: do that.
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  Speaker 4: Plus we're gonna get into President Trump's speech and a
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  Speaker 4: couple of thoughts on what's coming up ahead. We got
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  Speaker 4: a jobs report that's coming up ahead. Some grumbling too.
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  Speaker 4: I'm hearing rumors all over the place that there's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be a shake up in DC. I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: that's gonna happen at Foggy Bottom. I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: that's gonna happen at the Pentagon. I don't know where,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm hearing heads are gonna roll anyway. More than
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  Speaker 4: comes straight ahead. I'm Rich Feldez.
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  Speaker 1: This is a this is a.
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  Speaker 9: Massive family fraud operation in the state of Minnesota, and
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  Speaker 9: one person has been sentenced. The sister has been sentenced
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  Speaker 9: to six months in prison. This family stole over five
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  Speaker 9: point six million dollars from the Minnesota taxpayers. They had
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  Speaker 9: a small restaurant and they said during the years of
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  Speaker 9: twenty twenty through twenty twenty one they fed one point
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  Speaker 9: seven million people in one year in their small restaurant.
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  Speaker 9: They were able to siphon out five point six million
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  Speaker 9: dollars from Minnesota taxpayers, and the liberal activist judge sentence
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  Speaker 9: the sister to just a short six months in prison.
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  Speaker 9: The sister her house will be seized, her car will
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  Speaker 9: be seized, and one hundred and fifty thousand dollars she
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  Speaker 9: has in her bank account will be seized. But all
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  Speaker 9: of that is fraudulent money. It's not her money, it's
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  Speaker 9: Minnesota taxpayer money. And after her six month sentence, she's
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  Speaker 9: going to have to pay back four hundred thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 9: Which do you go to prison for six months if
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  Speaker 9: you could have five point six million dollars. The liberal
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  Speaker 9: activist judges, they don't care about the hard working people
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  Speaker 9: in Minnesota. All they care about is protecting their Somalians
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  Speaker 9: because they're Somalians. Is who votes for them? Another slap
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  Speaker 9: in the face to all the hard working Minnesotians.
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  Speaker 4: What's up, America? Welcome back is rich val Valdez with ans.
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  Speaker 4: Happy to be with you, and I want to get
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  Speaker 4: into this case. A lot of people very upset about people,
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  Speaker 4: Somali fraudsters and whatnot getting caught out there and then
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  Speaker 4: getting a slap on the wrist. So we're going to
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  Speaker 4: get into that with somebody who knows what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: He was the boss that had Hanscho chief of the
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  Speaker 4: Criminal Division in New York for the Department of Justice.
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  Speaker 4: His name is Doug Burns, and he's with us now.
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  Speaker 4: Doug Burns, welcome back, Thank you now.
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  Speaker 6: Doug.
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  Speaker 4: You know when I saw this case, I honestly I
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  Speaker 4: thought of you because you always come on the show
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  Speaker 4: and you always tell me something and you always say,
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  Speaker 4: you know, politics and law don't mix, and that rang
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  Speaker 4: through my head because I was watching this and I
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  Speaker 4: was saying, you know, people don't want to see fake
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  Speaker 4: accountability is what I'll call it.
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  Speaker 6: They want to see real accountability.
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  Speaker 4: They want to see somebody twenty eight million dollars stealing
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  Speaker 4: twenty eight million dollars and then getting a year in
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  Speaker 4: jail and whatnot. But what occurred to me in that
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  Speaker 4: moment was, listen, these types of things they happen pretty often, right.
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  Speaker 4: Deals are cut all the time to get to the
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  Speaker 4: next person in a fraud ring and a trafficking ring
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  Speaker 4: and a drug ring. And again that's me and my
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  Speaker 4: layman's understanding of what's going on.
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  Speaker 6: So talk to us a little bit about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an absolutely perfect example of a couple of principles.
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  Speaker 2: One is that law and politics don't mix. Two is
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  Speaker 2: that people who are not trained in law, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not being pompous forget trained and law. People who don't
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  Speaker 2: have any experience in prosecutions or criminal cases will often
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  Speaker 2: just jump right in over their ski tips, and it
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  Speaker 2: becomes very embarrassing. So let me explain, at first blush,
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  Speaker 2: and in fairness to everybody who jumped in over the
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  Speaker 2: ski tips, at first blush, it seems terrible. Guy, a
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  Speaker 2: defendant who stole one point one million dollars in funds
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  Speaker 2: that were supposed to go to meals programs. A judge
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  Speaker 2: just gave him a year. That's outrageous. That's terrible, okay,
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  Speaker 2: But nothing could be further from the truth because as
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  Speaker 2: a veteran of forty years, this was what we call
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  Speaker 2: a star cooperator, not complicator. The guy came in, he
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  Speaker 2: threw himself on his sword, he admitted the crime, and
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  Speaker 2: then he cooperated and they ended up making a whole
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  Speaker 2: series of cases against other people that they wouldn't otherwise
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  Speaker 2: have made. Now, cooperation without getting into a house seminar
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  Speaker 2: is probably the number one area in criminal law. Fascinating area.
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  Speaker 2: How it works, what it means. You can have philosophical
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  Speaker 2: objections to it. In other words, in a perfect world, Rich,
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  Speaker 2: we'd like that guy to cooperate and still get a
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  Speaker 2: really hefty sentence, But it doesn't work that way because
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  Speaker 2: we need to incentivize criminal A to give us criminal
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  Speaker 2: BC and D. So here what I think you're will
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  Speaker 2: find really particularly interesting is that the government was recommending probation, okay,
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  Speaker 2: and I've seen that many many times, because again, a
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  Speaker 2: person who steals a million one ends up making all
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  Speaker 2: kinds of criminal cases for the government. And then human nature.
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  Speaker 2: A very interesting human nature point is the government often
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  Speaker 2: develops very positive feelings about those type of individuals, and
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  Speaker 2: I've been in what we cynically call love fest sentencings
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  Speaker 2: where dagents race to the court house to be there
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  Speaker 2: to tell the judge how great this person's cooperation was, etcetera, etcetera.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: But again, the way the system works is we use
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: one criminal to go after other criminals and we end
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: up rewarding them for it. And that's exactly what happened here.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: So in a case like this, this is what you're
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: saying is really not unheard of. This is not somebody
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: getting a sweetheart deal. No, this is someone cooperating, and
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: we're likely going to get a lot more fish from it.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, also, let's talk price tags. Criminal lawyers
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: are going to tell you all the time that we
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: know how to put a price tag on a case,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: which means, in simple English, you know, oh, my friend
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: was just arrested for drunk driving. They cited him with this. Well,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: the first question is what's the normal disposition that's given
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: to everybody in that particular courthouse. So I've been in
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: one point one million dollar fraud cases all day long
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: for forty years, and in federal court, I had a
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: client in a million dollar case and he got two
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: years okay, with very light cooperation in that particular case.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: So basically you'd be looking at three four years on
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: a straight plea, two years with some cooperation, one year
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: or less, or even probation with really stellar cooperation. But
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the point is, this wasn't any kind of sweetheart deal.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not defending this individual. I'm just giving you the
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: excess and as the day to day legal realities and
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: the fact that the matter is. I mean, I've been
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: in drug cases where guys are facing twenty years and
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: they walked out of there with two three years because again,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: they gave sensational cooperation.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: The only reason this even caught my eye was because
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: I happened to be on vacation, right. I was talking
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: to somebody who said that a family member of theirs
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: had gotten involved. I was in the Dominican Republic and
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: somebody said, oh, I have a cousin or something that
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: bought a place very close.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: To here, huge mansion.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: And I was like, wow, must be nice, yea, And
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: they said no, no, he's doing five years for that.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: And I was like, five years, what do you do?
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: And they said, oh, he stole a bunch of money
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: through fraud through the PPP loans during COVID about twenty
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: five or twenty seven million dollars, something big number like that,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: and through multiple names, multiple people's fake entities, but it
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: all went to him and they said, and he got
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: in trouble and he's got to do five years. And
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: in my head I was thinking five years, twenty five
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: million dollars, he's coming home and I was like, did
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: they take the money?
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: And they were like, no, they couldn't find the money.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I said, you come out and you have the money.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: But I think your audience might find it interesting if
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I addressed what was I going to say to Rich
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Valdez if the guy didn't cooperate at all. I was
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: fully prepared to come on and say, look, that seems yeah,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: that seems like a light sentence to get a year,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: by the way, in the weeds, quickly he got a
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: year and a day Rich. And the reason for that
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: is that.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: On oh yeah, that's like legal trickery, right.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Well, on a sentence greater than a year, you're entitled
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: to certain reductions. So that's where we come up with
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: that year and a day thing. But the point is
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I was prepared to say that it seemed light and
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: exactly what I just said two minutes ago, which is
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: normally'd be talking three to five years with no cooperation,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: maybe two years with some decent cooperation, and then in
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the ballpark for provision without standing cooperation, defined as you
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: made a half a dozen cases that they never would
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: have made it.
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's amazing.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: You know, they say crime doesn't pay, but when you
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: look at some of these things, you go, hey, I
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: don't know, I'll put it on a scale.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: We'll see.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: As you said, though, but it's interesting and it's cynical.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: But it's so critical is if the guy still has
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: the forty five million dollars, he does four out of
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the five years, we'll just call it hypothetically, and it
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: comes out and he's got forty five dollars.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that was his thinking, too. Absolutely unbelievable.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: He goes, we're coming right back with Doug Burns, former
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: chief of the Criminal Division of the Department of Justice,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: thirty eight years in private practice as a defense attorney.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: He knows where the bodies are buried, and he's here
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: with us. Now, don't go anywhere.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: This is America. This is America.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: The forty fifth President, Donald Trump thinks it's an honor
• 21:40
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• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Very good.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: The honor is all yours. Conservative talk with a dash
• 21:52
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• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Now here's Rich Valdez.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: And of course continue news coming out of the Supreme Court.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: We continued a conversation with Doug Burns, former chief of
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: the Criminal Division at the Department of Justice. Spent thirty
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: eight years as a defense attorney, and he knows this
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: stuff really really well.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: Inside and out.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Doug Burns talk to us about this birthright citizenship case.
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: I know there was a lot of news coming out of.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: The Supreme Court yesterday where there was some agreements, some disagreement.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: Talked to us, break it down.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Well, largely misunderstood, you know again, partially the media's fault.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Partially the fault of people who jump over the ski
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: tips to use the phrase I used earlier, you know,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: without knowing what they're talking about. Once upon a time,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the United States Supreme Court decided a horrible, horrible case.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: It is generally considered the worst case they've ever decided.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I know you've heard about it, dread Scott. In the
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: dread Scott case, the Supreme Court of the United States,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: believe it or not, incredibly held that African Americans were
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: not United States citizens K and again it goes into
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the history books as the worst decision ever. After the
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Civil War. To enmity that Congress, they amended the Constitution
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: with a series of post war amendments thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: and in the fourteenth Amendment they put in a clause
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: saying that anybody born in the United States and subject
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: to the jurisdiction thereof. And I must sarcastically note that
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the mainstream media has largely scrubbed out that language, no surprise,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: but anybody born here and subject to the jurisdiction is
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: a US citizen. Fast forward the movie to today, and
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: the concept is, well, wait a minute, if two people
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: entered the United States illegally, and of course the left
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: is going to go, oh, they're undocumented. They really didn't
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: break the law. Put that to the side. But the
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: point is the offspring of two people who came here illegally,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: under their theory, those are United States citizens. President Trump
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: is dead set against that. He's made that clear for
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: years and years. He signed an executive order to eradicate it. Now,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: jumping around just quick executive order may not be the
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: way to go. But just put that to the side.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: The bottom line is the Supreme Court is now going
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: to determine whether or not the offspring of two people
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: who entered it illegally is a US citizen. And I
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: think this is a good chance. They may cut it back,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: they may eliminate it.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Seriously, rich, fascinating stuff, Doug Burns, because you made a
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: point about the media scrubbing out to the jurisdiction thereof,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: and obviously this is an important point, and talk to
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: me about or talk to all of us about why
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: it's such an important point, because I've made the rudimentary argument,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: as you've probably heard many people make to friends of
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: mine that are in favor of this. Matter of fact,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: I had one friend who called me one day and
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: he said, oh, I got to tell you.
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: He's from Cuba. He's born in Cuba.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: And he called me and he says, you know, I
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: got to tell you there is a document in your country,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: our country, that is perfect. He said, this is a
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: perfect document. It's called the Constitution. And he said, I
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: spent the last few hours reading it and rereading it.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: He said, I got to tell you his birthright citizenship thing.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: It's not going anywhere, because it's plain as day in there,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: and it says if they were born here, they're citizens.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: And I said, well, I mean there's a couple of
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: things there, and I said, you got to look at
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: some of the context, right. The senators who were debating that,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: the senator who proposed it, the arguments he made during
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: his proposal in the Senate back then, they were around
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: who was making examples like if an ambassador is here
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: on official business and has a baby here, does that
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: baby automatically become a citizen? And he was making the
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: case at the time that most ambassadors are representing their country,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: not the United States, so they would want their kids
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: to be citizens.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: Of their country.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: And it opens up this question of you know who's
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: right and who's wrong. So talk to me about why
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: you think the media is leaving that up.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the problem. Even that individual you were talking to,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: if I were talking to him, I would say to him, oh,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: your view is that anybody born here is a US citizen.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: And he would look me in the eye as sure
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: as the sun's going to set them and say yes, absolutely.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: And then I would say, well, are you aware that
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: if somebody's parents are diplomats, and they're here physically in
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the United States, and the child's born here, that child
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: is not, repeat not a US cid. Is in are
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: you aware that if the parents in my just law
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: school hypothetical swear allegiance through a country other than the
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: US as their first allegiance, that baby is not, repeat
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: not a US citizen. They probably don't even know that. Okay.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: So the point is there are a bunch of statutory exceptions.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: And what I've said, and I said just today on
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: a media segment, is that Congress should consider simply adding
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: a new exception, which says, and the offspring of two
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: people who broke the law, violated United States law to
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: enter the country are not United States citizens. That would
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: be the remedy. And I think it's going to be
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: interesting because I do like Crystal Ball awards because I
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: got one on the tariff case and some other stuff.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: But here I think the Supreme Court may turn around
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: and say that it's really up to Congress and the
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: statute and so on and so forth. But again they're
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: way off base when they don't understand that it's not automatic.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: And then, by the way, and I think you'll love
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: this you have an unbelievable hypocrisy point, legal hypocrisy point.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: So Anthony and Scalia real quick believed in textualism. You
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: look at the text of the Constitution and that's it.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: You don't need to go any farther. And they ripped
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: them for decades. That's a terrible approach. You have to
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: look at the context they lectured us. Now all of
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: a sudden, they're all Scalia disciples. It's in there. It
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: says that if you're born here, you're a citizen. That's it.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: We don't need to look any further.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Look at the hypocrisy of that, you know, Doug Burns,
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: that's interesting stuff because I would think even if Congress
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: and I agree with you, I think whenever the Supreme Court.
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: Can punt, they do.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: The last thing they want to do is figure out
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: the law. In my opinion, what they're supposed to do.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: If that were to happen, and they were to put
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: a clause like this, how does that affect this scenario
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: that we had originally Where I am in the country
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: legally being ambassador to Timbuctoo and I have a baby here.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Does that mean my baby gets to be American? Just
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: because the other I'm here working.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: The other exceptions would remain. What I thought you were
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: going to ask me is what somebody asked a guest
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: this morning on a segment that I thought was interesting.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: It wasn't me. They said, you know, one of the
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: biggest principles of all in law cases is retroactivity. Obviously,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: so the question that was posted again is, well, wait
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: a minute, what's going to happen with all of the
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: people who've already been born and are citizens. In my view,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: controversial as it might sound, and I haven't really thought
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: it through, I don't think you could necessarily strip them
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: of the citizenship. I think those who had been born
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: would probably retain it. But then going forward, anybody born
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: as the offspring of two people who broke the law
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: to come here would not be a citizen.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I listen, it makes sense to me.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: I know that this is one of those split the
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: babies inarios where you're not going to get everything you want.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: But presuming I mean the Supreme Court says we're not
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: doing anything here, Congress needs to figure this out.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: Do you think that.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: There's politically the ability to get that done with the
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: margins that we have.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: That's a great question, and I think unfortunately the answer
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: is now and you're read in my mind because the
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: margins are too thin. You look at what's going on
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: with the Save Act without digressing, just unbelievable in the
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: weeds speaking filibuster, regular philibuster, should we blow up the filibuster,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: so translating that to this, I do not think that
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: they would be able to eradicate birthright citizenship. And then lastly,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: it is just the obvious editorial about people's ignorance who
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: just you know, again, we covered it earlier, but it's
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: worth repeating, just jumping in and saying that, you know,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: this is outrageous. Of course their citizens. By the way,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: what was interesting too is that another related conundrum came
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: up during the oral argument, which is what you call
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: wealthy people flying into the US to anchor their kid
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: as a US citizen and then just go back home.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: That somebody said, maybe I heard it wrong, so we'll
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: just hang a caveat. But somebody said there were five
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: hundred companies. You believe that rich five hundred companies engaged
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: in contacting me Doug Burns hypothetical wealthy Canadian. We'll just
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: call it to have me and my wife fly in
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: here and have my wife delivered a baby here and
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: have the prestige of my kids a US citizen. That's
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: a whole other aspect of this which should be a
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: which they really should address also in my opinion.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: I agree, you know, And again just to add to that,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: I had Peter Schweitzer on this show who said that
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: he'd discovered through research he was doing, that there are
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: companies in China doing this as part of their subversion,
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: trying to have Chinese. They're born here, they bring them
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: back to China they're actually Chinese, but when the time
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: is right, they're eighteen, they could come back here and
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: vote because they're citizens, athlete, and this is their plan
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: to you know, kind of control the vote in the
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: United States. That's pretty scary stuff. So do you think
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: the court takes any of that into account? Is there
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: a plan B, a silver lining where maybe they take action.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Well you used the keyword punt, and I was glad
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: to hear you say that, because they do do that
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: when they can, and there are actually legal principles you know,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: that come into play with that. And one of the
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: justices said it today. I forget who it was. They're like,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: if we don't need to reach the constitutional question and
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: we can adjudicate the case on other grounds, you agree
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: that that's something we can do. That's code speak for
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: punting your word. So again, I'm going to be extremely
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: interested into seeing the way this comes out. There was
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: a big case in eighteen ninety eight. It's so interesting,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the long kim Arc case. But when I read it,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: and I haven't re read it, so a little fairness footnote,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: But when I read it, awhile back, I did not
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: think it was really squarely on point for the idea
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: that off spring of two people who came here legally
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: should have automatically your It was really a different discussion,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: had to do with Asians, had to do with the world,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: not World War two because it was an eighteen India,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: but it had to do with just different issue than
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: what's presented now. But to answer your key question, I
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: think the Supreme Court is going to find any way
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: they can to not really adjudicate it on the merits.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I agree with you and I think that your
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: analysis is right, and I hope they were both wrong.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I hope I agree with it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: And they do something good for the country. Doug Burns.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Let everybody know how they could follow you online.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm at Doug Burns Law on X that's my
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: main thing. I'm not that active on it, but I
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: enjoy it, and you know that's about it. And I'm
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: retired from practicing law happily.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: Rich amen to that.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: When I was a little kid, the first thing I
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: wanted to be when I grew up was retired.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: So, my friend, I'm the CEO of Retirement inc. Richie.
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: Love that. Love that. I can't wait to get trouble
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: with you.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the VP when you're in town.
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: We'll do I meangoes.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: That's Doug Burn's, former chief of the Criminal Division at
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: the Department of Justice, retired from his practice as a
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: defense attorney.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: Doug, thank you, sir.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: My pleasure. Thanks for having me.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Ont okay, I mean, he goes. We shall continue with
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: El Trompito. What did El Trompito have to say about Iran?
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: That's coming up straight ahead, keep it locked right here.
• 33:23
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• 33:24
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• 34:18
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  Speaker 4: ed trumpy, though he had a few interesting things to
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: say in the Oval office when he was asked what
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: kind of threat is facing US tech companies from Iran?
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: Check this out?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Government threatened a munch of US companies today in the region,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: including Google, Apple with.
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: What what are they threatening them with? Pp guns? Well,
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: that's you know, how much left to threaten?
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: My question for you is are you I don't know?
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: I mean, what are they You may have said, what
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: are they threatening them with? I don't know. Tell me
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: how did they threaten them?
• 34:58
  Speaker 11: All?
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I know whether they're threaten?
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: What does that mean? He said, something that has to have.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: The government talk with these companies help them.
• 35:08
  Speaker 10: You don't even know what the threat was. What was
• 35:10
  Speaker 10: the threat?
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard of.
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: What was the threat? Did they say they're gonna blow
• 35:14
  Speaker 10: them up? They're gonna hit up the knock you know
• 35:15
  Speaker 10: what They're not gonna do. They're not gonna hit them
• 35:17
  Speaker 10: with a nuclear weapon.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: They're not gonna hit them with a nuclear weapon. And
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: that is the truth. And you gotta love it Trumpito
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: for just calling stuff out. And you also got to
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: think this poor guy trying to make his living as
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: a reporter, and this is the question that he asks, right,
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: So he gets a follow up for clarity, threaten them
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: with what he says, you know they've threatened US tech
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: companies instead of just saying, it's my understanding it's a
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: cyber attack. But he was afraid to because he didn't
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: have it on good authority, or he didn't have his
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: ducks in a row or whatever it is. So he says,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the threat is. So then what's
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: the question, right, what is the US prepared to do
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: to help whomever with whatever if we don't know what
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: the threat is. President Trump makes an excellent point and
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: he embarrasses this guy, showing the world yet again that
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: the fake news reporters are fake news and when they're
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: not even being fake news, they're just being weak. You've
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: got to know what you're talking about. Unbelievable anyway, President
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Trump giving his Oval Office address, some of my friends
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: in different areas of life shared with me that President
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: Trump was going to announce that we'd now taken out
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: a bunch of their infrastructure and really decimated Iran, setting
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: them back a decade in just how they operate, in
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: addition to their supply lines and whatnot. And he did
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: not make that because there was some act of good
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: faith that came from the Iranians leading to him giving
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: a very innocuous speech saying much of what he said before.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: And of course many of you think, well, why on
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: earth would he have an Oval Office address nine pm
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: on a Saturday just to repeat stuff we already know. Well,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: that's a great question. That is the million dollar question.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: And that's why I tend to believe some of the
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: rumors I'm hearing that. You know, they had two speeches
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: lined up in the prompter, and these people had a
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: deadline do this by this time or else, and they
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: were able to do it probably, you know, in a
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: nick of time. And he kept his word and gave
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: his you know, innocuous speech that didn't affect anybody. Really,
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: It wasn't any major breaking news that we needed to
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: have an Oval Office address for in the middle of
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: the night.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: Just my thoughts. I'd love to know your thoughts.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Let me know, drop a voice note, if you want
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: call us, leave a message hit me on social media
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: on any of the platforms, not as a direct message
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: because I don't check those as often, but as a
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: comment somewhere. I'll definitely get back to you. I want
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: to know your thoughts. I want to know what you think.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: And of course the number here eight seven seven Valdas one,
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: eight seven seven Valdess one.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: You know, this.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: War in Iran, I think we just hit thirty three
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: days and I have to say, nobody wants to go
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: to war, but this is a master class in going
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: to war. Yes, you know, different things happen right different.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: You know, we've lost thirteen men. There's you know, still
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: a risk of losing you know, other things. You know,
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: whether it's ships with mines that they're putting out there,
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: or a couple of their gorillas that have you know,
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: over the shoulder rocket launchers and maybe take out a
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: helicopter or a plane or something like that.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: That risk is always there. It is war.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: But by and large, the United States has pretty much
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: flattened a pretty major military right. Solomoni was not somebody
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: that people took lightly, and the IRGC was known for
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: being tough and they are tough, and they're fighting, they're valiant.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: I don't want to, you know, I feel.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: Like sometimes as Americans, especially those of a who have
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: not served, we tend to underestimate everyone because we have
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: the biggest and best and baddest military that everybody else's
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: just doesn't compare. And that's true, it doesn't compare, But
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that they won't defend themselves. And it
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: doesn't mean that they're totally ineffective either, right. They're effective
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: to a point because they don't have the same capacity.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: We do, same training, the same ability, same budget, And
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: I would never want to minimize the enemy number one,
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: because that minimizes our troops. It's like, what am I
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: giving you a high five for if you're fighting somebody
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: who can't even fight. No, no, no, these guys can fight,
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: and our guys fight better. So kudos to the American military.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Always grateful for the men and women in uniform in
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: every branch, including Space Force, in the Coast Guard, and
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: their friends in NASA. Right as we just took a
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: lap to the moon. So anyway, that's the latest on Iran.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, maybe tomorrow before the end the weekend,
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: hopefully early next week, a couple of more deadlines will
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: be imposed and some more progress will be achieved. It's
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: really not much to talk about here, but as soon
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: as we do have a development, they'll bring in one
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: of our military people that can add some flavor. Today's
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: a little light to the conversation because I think that's important. Now,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: something else I want to get into. I'm going to
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: say for the next segment. You know, it's one of
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: those contemplative things where we look at some of the
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: things that are going haywire in society and then talk
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: about it and hopefully end on a very positive note,
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: like I try to. And that's coming up straight ahead,
• 40:36
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• 40:55
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• 40:56
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• 40:59
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• 41:01
  Speaker 4: my little world tour and all that stuff.
• 41:04
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• 41:32
  Speaker 5: Valdas, all right, and he goes, welcome back. Holy Week.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Holy Week, We're closer and closer to Good Friday, closer
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: and closer to Easter, the resurrection of our Lord and Savior,
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Jesus the Christ. And I'm always happy around this time
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: of year for these moments. So blessed, blessed Holy Week
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: to everyone, top of them, to you. I like to
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: say that in my little Scottish it's not even Scottish,
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: it's actually my brother is married to a young woman
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: who was born in the United States, but her parents
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: one was born in the United States, the other one
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: was born in Ireland. And as we've always known her
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: and Nana Rose, she is you know, might some of
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: my kids call her. She is you know from Ireland.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: She is a darling woman, absolutely darling woman, and she
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: has the most beautiful barogue. And listening to her to
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: speak through the years, I've picked up a little bit
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: not quite Gaelic, but this is what you hear from me.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: So anyway, I don't do it as good as she does,
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: nor as good as the guy from the Lucky Charms commercial,
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: but I give it a shot every now and again. Now,
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: I wanted to talk to you about something very salient,
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: something very important, something huge huge. But honestly, there's several
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: things and I wrote them down and I can't find
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: exactly where I wrote them.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: You know, that's called being prepared. I was prepared.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: I prepared a lot, actually, but oh man, this this
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: is a big one. I'm gonna have to leave this
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: for maybe Friday or Monday, but I can tease it
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: makes it this way, you keep coming back. This is
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: about a series of events, four or five six different
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: individuals in different states, all arrested for the same thing
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: or being investigated for the same thing. What is the
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: thing again? I'm not gonna talk about it now, but
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna bring it up. Teachers ranging in age
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: from twenty seven to forty seven that are having sexual
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: relationships with their students. And because they're young people, you know, miners,
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: you can't see what these students look like. I want
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: to know, is this some women, many of them are women,
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: women teachers, and I'm wondering, are these male students, Is
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: this like the kid from the basketball team that's like
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: seven feet tall and looks like he's in college, I
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: want to know, or are these like pedophile women that
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: are interested in small children. I don't know the answer,
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: but it's alarming how many articles came up when I
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: clicked on one, and these are all within days of
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: each other. So this is an ongoing thing, and I'm
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: gonna do a little bit more research on this and
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: we'll bring it up. But let me tell you absolutely wild. Now,
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: I wanted to finish with one thought here about the
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Supreme Court. As you know, we're talking about the this
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: birthright citizenship case and the fourteenth Amendment, and I did
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: have a clip. I'm going to play it for you
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: because it's it's a back and forth. It's a little
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: bit of an exchange between Cecilia Wang, the ac LU
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: attorney on this case, and Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito,
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: just so you can have an idea of what a
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: little bit of this back and forth sounds like.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: Check this out.
• 44:56
  Speaker 12: Not subject to any foreign power is pretty straightforward. So
• 45:01
  Speaker 12: let me give you these examples. A boy is born
• 45:06
  Speaker 12: here to an Iranian father who has entered the country illegally.
• 45:10
  Speaker 12: That boy is automatically an Iranian national at birth, and
• 45:15
  Speaker 12: he has a duty to provide military service to the
• 45:19
  Speaker 12: Iranian government. Is he not subject to any foreign power?
• 45:24
  Speaker 11: Not within the meaning of the eighteen sixty six Act,
• 45:27
  Speaker 11: Justice Alito. And that's clear from wonkim Ark. And it's
• 45:30
  Speaker 11: clear from the debates what the framers meant by the
• 45:33
  Speaker 11: phrase not subject to any foreign power was referring to
• 45:36
  Speaker 11: the ambassador exception. If it meant what the government contends, basically,
• 45:40
  Speaker 11: not a subject of any foreign power, that you were
• 45:44
  Speaker 11: that another country considers you a you sanguinous citizen, then
• 45:48
  Speaker 11: lawful permanent residence all foreign national.
• 45:51
  Speaker 12: Ordinary public, ordinary public meaning of that would certainly encompass
• 45:57
  Speaker 12: that boy, would it not, Justice Alido?
• 45:59
  Speaker 11: If if you think that the language of the eighteen
• 46:01
  Speaker 11: sixty six Act was ambiguous, as Wang kim Mark says,
• 46:05
  Speaker 11: the shift to the language of the fourteenth Amendment, which
• 46:07
  Speaker 11: is the operative text, certainly clears up any ambiguity.
• 46:11
  Speaker 12: What I said about a boy born to an Iranian
• 46:15
  Speaker 12: father is true of children born here to parents who
• 46:20
  Speaker 12: were nationals of other countries. If I'm correct, it's true
• 46:24
  Speaker 12: to a child who's born here to Russian parents, it's
• 46:28
  Speaker 12: true to a child who's born here to Mexican parents,
• 46:31
  Speaker 12: they're automatically citizens, are nationals of those countries, and have
• 46:35
  Speaker 12: a duty of military service. Atures seems like that that
• 46:40
  Speaker 12: makes them subject to a foreign power.
• 46:44
  Speaker 11: But again, Justice Lato, that would have meant that the
• 46:47
  Speaker 11: children of Irish, Italian and other immigrants, which Wankmark refers
• 46:54
  Speaker 11: to and the debate the Framers refer to, would not
• 46:57
  Speaker 11: have been citizens either, because if the only test is
• 47:02
  Speaker 11: whether that US born child is considered a citizen by
• 47:06
  Speaker 11: another country under their usanguinous laws, then no foreign nationals children.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Well, in all.
• 47:14
  Speaker 12: Of those cases, the parents could be naturalized, and then
• 47:17
  Speaker 12: the children would be derivatively nationalized naturalized when the parents
• 47:24
  Speaker 12: were naturalized.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: So that gets a little bit into the weeds, but
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: it's truly what the crux of this argument is, right,
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: This is truly where we're at. People are very interested
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: in knowing if you are here on vacation, if you're
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: here working in the United States as a representative of
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: a foreign country, whatever your reason for being here, including
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: being an illegal alien, came here on a ninety day
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: visa for a vacation never left. Do you get all
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: the rights, privileges and a citizenship that comes with being
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: an American if your child is born here. And I
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: have to say, it doesn't seem like it makes sense, right.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: It seems like everyone is saying, of course it does.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Read it, and I read it, and I get to
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: the same conclusion that Justice Alito came to. So I
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: don't know how this is going to go. If I
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: had to be a betting man, and we probably should
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: have brought this up with Doug Burns. But if I
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: was a betting man, I would say Justice Alito is
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: likely going to be along with Justice Thomas in.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: The dissent if they don't win.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: If they do win, then you know they'll be part
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: of the majority and writing, you know, the majority opinion.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: So we're going to see how this goes. But I mean, honestly,
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: on its face, it just doesn't seem fair. I can't
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: think of another country in the world where this is allowed.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: But again, is that a fair litmus? No, it's really
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: not right. We have a constitution, it's in writing, and
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: people are looking at what we have in writing and
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: they're saying, I understand and to say this, we have
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: a constitutional question, a dilemma, and we're bringing it to
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: the court now. The problem I think we have is
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: that we have justices that are not entirely, entirely well versed,
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: in my opinion, in the law, and that they were
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: appointed more for political purpose than for their astuteness when
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: it comes to understanding the Constitution. And I don't say
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: that to be mean. I say that to be honest. Right,
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: I can tell you this. I would have question within
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: myself if a president said, the next person I nominate
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: to Supreme Court, it's going to be a Hispanic man,
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: and then I get nominated to the Supreme Court, I
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: would feel slighted in that it wasn't my jurisprudence and
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: my ability as a jurist throughout my career that brought
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: me to this point. No, it was whom my parents
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: it's are. And I think that's totally inappropriate. But that
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: is what Joe Biden said, and that's how we got
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: Katanji Brown Jackson, and by and large, maybe less words
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: but very similar outcome, Justice Sonya Sotomayor. And I don't
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: mean to minimize them, all right, I'm really not. This
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: is not a personal insult. I'm just saying when you
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: play the politics of diversity, equity, and inclusion and say
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: that the court needs to look like this, that whatever. Now,
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: the court needs to look like people that are experts
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: in the constitution based on the Senate confirmation and they
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: were confirmed, so they deserve to be there. Granted, I
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: take exception, especially to Justice Katanji Brown Jackson, because President
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: Biden put her in that position saying that he was
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: going to nominate a black woman. How do you, you know,
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: put that out there. It just seems like the wrong
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: thing to say. You should say, I'm going to pick somebody,
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: and if it happens to be a black woman, then great,
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: you'll get this balance that you guys are looking for.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: But I'm going with the person that's best for the job,
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: not the best suited black woman for the job, just
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: the best suited person for the job. And I understand
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: the people that push back on me are saying, well, rich,
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: if we think like that, then we may never get
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: the other person because they'll always be an abundance of
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: white men because this country has a majority of white men,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: So how will you ever get the other person? And
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: I would argue against that, saying that there is you know,
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: academia is just like every other economy right when you
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: look at it in the sense of the free market,
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: you can prevail. Now they push out conservatives. But if
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: you're a good conservative and you want to go to
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: a law school that you tolerates conservatives and you want
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: to stand out in the legal community, I think you
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: can do that as long as you know where you're going.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: It's probably won't be as easy as saying, hey, look,
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: I'm a Marxist and I want to talk about you know,
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: like Bell's theory of critical theory and whatnot. But all
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: that aside. Bottom line here is you can stand out.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: You can try and make a case for yourself. And
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: I don't think anybody needs to put their thumb on
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: the scale to allow that to happen. That would indicate
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: that you on your own can't do it. And I
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: think that's just a mistake. I really do anyway, and me,
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: he goes, that's all I've got. We will continue this
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: discussion and all the others see who's on the chopping
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: block in Washington, d C. Is there going to be
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: a shakeup in the Pentagon? Is there going to be
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: a shape up at shake up, excuse me, at the
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: Department of Justice. What's happening, where it's happening, what's the
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: latest with Iran and everything else that's going on. Plenty
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: to discuss, So keep it locked right here for tomorrow
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: and the next day. We'll actually yeah, tomorrow, the next day,
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: and then we've got Easter, the Resurrection, and of course
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: next week I want to get into the jobs reports
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: that's coming out on Friday, and I'll probably get to
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: that on Monday. So anyway, thank you for tuning in,
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Thanks for sticking with me this long. I appreciate it.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: Good to be back in the saddle. My voice is
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: i'd say fifty sixty percent of where it needs to be.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: Hopefully it'll be better in the next couple of days.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: I start approxima, Take care, good night, and God bless
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: you America.
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: I'm Rich Valdez.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: This is America.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: U Satis Usa, Sai Sai