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- 0:36[SPEAKER_00]: Should old podcast be forgotten and never brought to mind?
- 0:47[SPEAKER_00]: Should old podcast be forgotten in 2020, six times?
- 1:00[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to 2026, the year of our one.
- 1:04[SPEAKER_04]: Let us be the first to tell you.
- 1:06[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to 2026.
- 1:07[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, welcome.
- 1:09[SPEAKER_02]: We have a lot of Joe Rograz's to kick.
- 1:13[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
- 1:14[SPEAKER_03]: Only a year to do it to kind of fund our starting on January 6th, isn't it?
- 1:20[SPEAKER_03]: This is where it first begins.
- 1:22[SPEAKER_02]: Let's show Rogan's birthday.
- 1:23[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's why they were also also ordinary and excited.
- 1:27[SPEAKER_02]: They were there for his birthday party.
- 1:28[SPEAKER_02]: I think yeah, but before we get to the the Rogan ask kicking, which of course we will.
- 1:37[SPEAKER_02]: forward a little bit of uh uh when I was a kid I was always taught you look left you look right you look left again when you're crossing the stream yeah yeah yeah that's kind of what we're doing here is is just a little a little back a little forward and so um we're gonna we're gonna do that uh right now but before we do that I'm sure
- 1:55[SPEAKER_04]: I'm Doge, and today's affirmation to give us the strength to beat Joe Rogan's ass.
- 2:01[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we've changed.
- 2:02[SPEAKER_04]: Is I trust in the power of people and communities to shape the future?
- 2:09[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 2:10[SPEAKER_04]: You feel a little stronger?
- 2:11[SPEAKER_04]: Like when we won percent, maybe that's like 10.
- 2:13[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have any closer?
- 2:14[SPEAKER_04]: We're getting my guess in the set up?
- 2:16[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, you're just- Do I receive any of my guess in my words?
- 2:19[SPEAKER_02]: Am I guessing who said it?
- 2:20[SPEAKER_04]: No, this is not interactive.
- 2:22[SPEAKER_04]: This is, you receive it for me.
- 2:23[SPEAKER_04]: You received it.
- 2:24[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 2:25[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 2:25[SPEAKER_04]: It's like a massage.
- 2:26[SPEAKER_04]: Not patty cake.
- 2:27[SPEAKER_04]: Like you just give receive it for me.
- 2:29[SPEAKER_03]: Dieter.
- 2:31[SPEAKER_03]: I like it.
- 2:32[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Carter.
- 2:33[SPEAKER_03]: Once you, once you hear about it, once you really get to know it, Carter is me.
- 2:37[SPEAKER_02]: I was wondering if that was, yeah.
- 2:39[SPEAKER_03]: That's a good point.
- 2:40[SPEAKER_02]: This whole time I've kind of thought maybe it might be kind of lonely.
- 2:44[SPEAKER_03]: The one and only right here.
- 2:46[SPEAKER_02]: Here he is.
- 2:48[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
- 2:48[SPEAKER_02]: There he is.
- 2:49[SPEAKER_02]: And we got some lists to share, but we didn't confirm this before we started recording.
- 2:56[SPEAKER_02]: Does one of you have something to do real quick?
- 3:00[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna jump into lists.
- 3:02[SPEAKER_02]: And what we did was we talked about does one of you have something to share with us?
- 3:11[SPEAKER_03]: I do, we talked about doing a bit and then this is the bit.
- 3:17[SPEAKER_03]: While we're, you want to do a super fast blind ranking?
- 3:20[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's kind of list.
- 3:22[SPEAKER_04]: We could, we could blind rank, we could crack off with the top 10s.
- 3:26[SPEAKER_04]: There's an unlimited number of things we can.
- 3:28[SPEAKER_03]: Now we're going to blind rank and I want this to be a super fast blind ranking, okay?
- 3:32[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
- 3:32[SPEAKER_03]: We begin with November.
- 3:36[SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about just one through 10 here.
- 3:39[SPEAKER_03]: We're trying to rank, they don't know yet what this is about.
- 3:44[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and these boys are trying to put this on a one to 10 ranking without really knowing what's coming next.
- 3:52[SPEAKER_03]: Three, yeah, I tend to like November, okay.
- 3:54[SPEAKER_03]: Great, that's November at number three, July.
- 4:02[SPEAKER_03]: As we look ahead to 2020.
- 4:03[SPEAKER_04]: Nine.
- 4:04[SPEAKER_04]: You feeling?
- 4:05[SPEAKER_04]: Here's a deal.
- 4:05[SPEAKER_04]: It's my anniversary.
- 4:06[SPEAKER_04]: It's also the worst time to be outside and have skin or clothes.
- 4:11[SPEAKER_04]: So 10.
- 4:13[SPEAKER_04]: Whoa.
- 4:14[SPEAKER_02]: What are you going to nine?
- 4:15[SPEAKER_02]: There's one worse.
- 4:16[SPEAKER_02]: There's one worse.
- 4:17[SPEAKER_03]: If it even makes it, if it even makes it on this list, you know, who knows?
- 4:21[SPEAKER_02]: If August is here, August is certainly worse than July.
- 4:23[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
- 4:26[SPEAKER_03]: Nine.
- 4:26[SPEAKER_02]: At least here in Teha's.
- 4:27[SPEAKER_02]: Hi.
- 4:28[SPEAKER_02]: At nine.
- 4:29[SPEAKER_03]: What's say you're to February?
- 4:32[SPEAKER_02]: It's my birthday and I love it, but I know that it's so many people's least favorite month of the entire year.
- 4:38[SPEAKER_02]: I won't fight for it.
- 4:40[SPEAKER_02]: I know who I am.
- 4:40[SPEAKER_02]: I know what it is to me.
- 4:43[SPEAKER_02]: I like, I like it at two.
- 4:44[SPEAKER_02]: Two?
- 4:47[SPEAKER_03]: I like February.
- 4:48[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Kelly.
- 4:49[SPEAKER_03]: February's good.
- 4:50[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's great.
- 4:51[SPEAKER_03]: I love that.
- 4:51[SPEAKER_03]: That's my anniversary.
- 4:52[SPEAKER_03]: I don't really get to it.
- 4:53[SPEAKER_03]: But usually a big February head.
- 4:54[SPEAKER_03]: I want to swase it all.
- 4:55[SPEAKER_03]: It's your game.
- 4:56[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 4:56[SPEAKER_03]: It's our game.
- 4:57[SPEAKER_04]: It's the anniversary of the anniversary of the anniversary of the best shrimp of my whole entire life.
- 5:01[SPEAKER_03]: That's what it is.
- 5:02[SPEAKER_04]: February.
- 5:03[SPEAKER_03]: It will be my team.
- 5:03[SPEAKER_03]: It will be my team.
- 5:04[SPEAKER_03]: It'll be the 10 year anniversary of eating that shrimp.
- 5:08[SPEAKER_03]: I was worth it.
- 5:09[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the shrimp.
- 5:10[SPEAKER_04]: Cogress to the shrimp, congrats to the chef.
- 5:13[SPEAKER_03]: I do remember.
- 5:14[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, anyone who had confidence in the breadcrumbs?
- 5:16[SPEAKER_03]: I did anything.
- 5:16[SPEAKER_03]: I said, bring me some shrimp.
- 5:20[SPEAKER_02]: Anyone who has asked.
- 5:21[SPEAKER_02]: And so it was just, I know, I know it's a source spot that it's people's favorite part of your day, but I felt like a child king on his birthday.
- 5:32[SPEAKER_02]: Bring me shrimp.
- 5:34[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to roll your R after an S-H sound.
- 5:37[SPEAKER_03]: They really, it's really, it's really, it's really, it's really, it's really, it's really, it's really, it's really, it's really, it's really, it's really, it's really, it's really, it's really, it's really, it's really, really, it's really, really, it's really, really, it's really, really, really, really, really, really, really, it's really, really, really, it's really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really,
- 6:03[SPEAKER_03]: What's say you to June, eight, those?
- 6:10[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's low, that's low on there.
- 6:13[SPEAKER_04]: June's hot.
- 6:14[SPEAKER_03]: We're not summer boys, are we?
- 6:16[SPEAKER_03]: No, summer.
- 6:18[SPEAKER_03]: Are you saying eight there, those?
- 6:20[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's good.
- 6:23[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's eight, nine, 10, June, July, August, great.
- 6:28[SPEAKER_03]: December.
- 6:30[SPEAKER_03]: That's one for me, baby.
- 6:32[SPEAKER_03]: That's number one.
- 6:33[SPEAKER_03]: Two, two.
- 6:35[SPEAKER_03]: Bang, bang.
- 6:36[SPEAKER_03]: No.
- 6:38[SPEAKER_03]: Numerous.
- 6:39[SPEAKER_03]: No, no.
- 6:40[SPEAKER_03]: Here's one that we don't think about a lot.
- 6:41[SPEAKER_03]: How about Mark?
- 6:42[SPEAKER_03]: Mm.
- 6:44[SPEAKER_03]: Such a big mouth.
- 6:45[SPEAKER_03]: Mark.
- 6:46[SPEAKER_03]: It does.
- 6:47[SPEAKER_03]: It does.
- 6:49[SPEAKER_03]: We have five, six, seven.
- 6:50[SPEAKER_03]: We're right here in the middle.
- 6:52[SPEAKER_03]: March.
- 6:53[SPEAKER_03]: I think March is five.
- 6:56[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 6:56[SPEAKER_03]: I'll go five.
- 6:57[SPEAKER_03]: Like what's going on in March for you?
- 6:59[SPEAKER_03]: You know?
- 7:00[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing, dude.
- 7:01[SPEAKER_04]: I just kind of write things out of the way in our group.
- 7:03[SPEAKER_04]: We're in our marches for the new year.
- 7:05[SPEAKER_04]: March is completely different.
- 7:06[SPEAKER_02]: March and September are two sides of the same coin to me.
- 7:09[SPEAKER_02]: They're both nothing months.
- 7:10[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing really happening.
- 7:12[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there's an laser show, I can't believe it.
- 7:15[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing really happens in March or September, like overall.
- 7:18[SPEAKER_02]: There's no major holidays that we're like stopping down for.
- 7:21[SPEAKER_02]: They're just kind of a month you get through.
- 7:23[SPEAKER_02]: And in terms of those two style months, March is the better one.
- 7:27[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 7:29[SPEAKER_03]: I did, yeah, the March weather is usually going to be nicer, I think.
- 7:34[SPEAKER_03]: How do we feel about it?
- 7:35[SPEAKER_03]: Let's say you to me.
- 7:39[SPEAKER_04]: Wait, Carter, what number do we have left?
- 7:40[SPEAKER_04]: Six, six, six, seven.
- 7:43[SPEAKER_02]: Six, seven.
- 7:45[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 7:45[SPEAKER_02]: I like, I like me.
- 7:46[SPEAKER_02]: I think May is the last month that I enjoyed fully and before summer starts.
- 7:51[SPEAKER_04]: That's April for me.
- 7:52[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm okay.
- 7:53[SPEAKER_02]: You're already out on May.
- 7:54[SPEAKER_04]: Seven.
- 7:55[SPEAKER_04]: I'm out on May, dude.
- 7:57[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
- 7:57[SPEAKER_04]: I'm out.
- 7:58[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, not much of a guy.
- 8:00[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's good.
- 8:00[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe it's good.
- 8:01[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe it's good until I finished with school.
- 8:04[SPEAKER_04]: And then it's like, I actually, it's just summer now.
- 8:06[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't like that.
- 8:07[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not fully hot.
- 8:08[SPEAKER_02]: Hot yet.
- 8:09[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 8:10[SPEAKER_02]: That's part of why I like me is like it hasn't gotten there yet.
- 8:12[SPEAKER_04]: It's too hot for me.
- 8:13[SPEAKER_04]: I run hot.
- 8:15[SPEAKER_04]: So which one is it?
- 8:16[SPEAKER_04]: Six or seven.
- 8:17[SPEAKER_03]: Seven.
- 8:17[SPEAKER_03]: Seven.
- 8:17[SPEAKER_03]: Seven.
- 8:18[SPEAKER_03]: Seven.
- 8:18[SPEAKER_03]: Seven.
- 8:20[SPEAKER_03]: Seven.
- 8:22[SPEAKER_03]: Seven.
- 8:23[SPEAKER_03]: Now we come to the very month we're in today.
- 8:27[SPEAKER_03]: January.
- 8:28[SPEAKER_03]: That's our last month.
- 8:29[SPEAKER_04]: April didn't make it.
- 8:30[SPEAKER_04]: It was pretty crazy that my birthday month didn't make it.
- 8:33[SPEAKER_04]: No, so this would be my last episode.
- 8:36[SPEAKER_04]: I hope you guys are strong right Joe Rogan on your own.
- 8:38[SPEAKER_02]: Jean plays a little too high on the list at six, but I'm okay with it.
- 8:42[SPEAKER_02]: January.
- 8:42[SPEAKER_02]: I like the worst of the winter months to me because school's back works back like every all the bad stuff's back and I don't care for that.
- 8:50[SPEAKER_02]: I like January.
- 8:51[SPEAKER_02]: And it's also the
- 8:57[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
- 8:58[SPEAKER_02]: If you do it like has a circle.
- 9:00[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, which yeah, if you.
- 9:02[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 9:03[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 9:04[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 9:05[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 9:05[SPEAKER_04]: Six.
- 9:06[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's fine.
- 9:07[SPEAKER_02]: As you know, six is all that's left.
- 9:09[SPEAKER_02]: So it's good.
- 9:10[SPEAKER_04]: You can consider the absolute value of the month rather than the positive or negative in front of it.
- 9:14[SPEAKER_04]: Because we're actually pretty close to December.
- 9:17[SPEAKER_02]: No, we're not time time time time cannot move that way.
- 9:21[SPEAKER_03]: Well,
- 9:23[SPEAKER_03]: Here's the definitive ranking of months, top 10 months of any year.
- 9:31[SPEAKER_03]: This is what we waited for on this podcast.
- 9:32[SPEAKER_03]: There's going to be a lot of other lists and stuff that we hear from today.
- 9:35[SPEAKER_03]: But really, when you go back and listen to another episode of two chunks again, it'll be this one because of this.
- 9:40[SPEAKER_03]: What's happening right now?
- 9:41[SPEAKER_03]: Number one, December number two, February.
- 9:43[SPEAKER_03]: Number three, November number four, October.
- 9:46[SPEAKER_03]: Five March, 6 January, 7 May, 8 June, 9 July, 10 August.
- 9:53[SPEAKER_03]: I was watching, it's funny to call it a TikTok, but it was a vine.
- 9:57[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's, I always feel, that is the like, millennial feeling, millennial boomer vibe of just being like, okay, sure.
- 10:07[SPEAKER_03]: Give credit where credit is due.
- 10:08[SPEAKER_03]: That was on vine before it was before it was on TikTok.
- 10:12[SPEAKER_03]: But it's the kid who's standing in front of like, it's like the Adam's family or whatever his family name is and it's got the beginning of each month on the letter.
- 10:22[SPEAKER_03]: Do you remember this?
- 10:23[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's going to change the memory.
- 10:26[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's like you'll never look at a calendar the same.
- 10:30[SPEAKER_03]: So we made it.
- 10:31[SPEAKER_03]: That's our top 10, top 10 months.
- 10:35[SPEAKER_03]: Reflect on that.
- 10:36[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, lots to look forward to you about that, student and later summer.
- 10:40[SPEAKER_03]: We're not big summer people.
- 10:41[SPEAKER_03]: We found out from data collection over the last several years.
- 10:45[SPEAKER_03]: We love mustard and we don't like the summer.
- 10:48[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of how two chunks of rolls.
- 10:50[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, look at us.
- 10:51[SPEAKER_04]: That's amazing.
- 10:53[SPEAKER_04]: If you were like, if you were like name a guy,
- 10:55[SPEAKER_04]: who doesn't like the summer, but loves mustard.
- 10:58[SPEAKER_04]: I would think of me.
- 10:59[SPEAKER_02]: That's you.
- 11:00[SPEAKER_02]: It's Jordan.
- 11:00[SPEAKER_02]: I would think of me.
- 11:01[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 11:02[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
- 11:03[SPEAKER_02]: We have put together a couple of just individual, these aren't collective.
- 11:07[SPEAKER_02]: Just a couple of individual top 5s from 2025, just to share some of our favorite things with you.
- 11:13[SPEAKER_02]: If you're into these things and haven't checked any of these out, we think they're worth checking out.
- 11:18[SPEAKER_02]: But also it's just kind of fun to post more to a year and just say,
- 11:21[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what we liked.
- 11:22[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what stood out to us.
- 11:23[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what kind of defined our our time and yeah, we want to we want to share those with you now you're a captive audience.
- 11:31[SPEAKER_02]: So you don't really get to say now.
- 11:35[SPEAKER_02]: All right, I've been sneezing so much.
- 11:42[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, that's crazy.
- 11:43[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, 15, 1, 2, 3, 4, you know, how can I do that?
- 11:46[SPEAKER_02]: That's something to wild.
- 11:48[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm happy to start.
- 11:50[SPEAKER_02]: We can just kind of do one at a time here for for lists.
- 11:55[SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy to start.
- 11:56[SPEAKER_02]: I put together two.
- 11:57[SPEAKER_02]: I'll start with shows.
- 12:00[SPEAKER_02]: So, twenty twenty six was not a year defined by twenty five.
- 12:05[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, twenty twenty five was not a year defined by movies for me.
- 12:09[SPEAKER_02]: It was not really a year defined by books for me.
- 12:11[SPEAKER_02]: It was a lighter reading year for me than the years the years before that, but there were a lot of good shows and I've put together a top five of my favorite shows from a lot of twenty twenty five starting with number five.
- 12:25[SPEAKER_02]: going to go with season three of the white lotus um it was truly truly a phenomenal season of television.
- 12:35[SPEAKER_02]: Um, felt like the closest I got in 2025 to a water cooler show again that just everybody was watching it.
- 12:41[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
- 12:42[SPEAKER_02]: Um, that's always a fun time.
- 12:44[SPEAKER_02]: Um, number four was the challenge.
- 12:47[SPEAKER_02]: Challenge had a strong 2025.
- 12:49[SPEAKER_02]: It really was a good, full of strong finish, strong, strong finish, great season of the challenge.
- 12:56[SPEAKER_02]: Always good to see one of the, one of the reality shows really.
- 12:59[SPEAKER_02]: Really wholesale kicking ass, which I appreciate speaking of reality shows at number three I'm giving it to which it's not quite done yet, but it was also twenty twenty five is the year I discovered it Real housewives of Salt Lake City.
- 13:11[SPEAKER_03]: It's almost made my list of like over all twenty five the way I did my list was just
- 13:16[SPEAKER_03]: Here's what the best, the five best things about 2025 and the five things are looking forward to in 26.
- 13:21[SPEAKER_03]: Salt Lake City is at its best.
- 13:23[SPEAKER_03]: It's the best season of the show.
- 13:25[SPEAKER_02]: The technically, the season will be ending in 2026, but only barely.
- 13:31[SPEAKER_02]: There's like one episode left.
- 13:32[SPEAKER_02]: And also, we watched all of it.
- 13:35[SPEAKER_02]: Personally, Cali and I watched all of it in 2025.
- 13:37[SPEAKER_02]: So it feels like a 2025 show to me and may as in general.
- 13:40[SPEAKER_02]: If you just like borderline terrible to all the way
- 13:46[SPEAKER_02]: facing social consequences left and right.
- 13:49[SPEAKER_03]: And it's a great.
- 13:50[SPEAKER_03]: There's so many little little storylines, like legitimate funny things that are happening.
- 13:55[SPEAKER_03]: Like Angie gets hurt really bad every other episode.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, and I cannot believe it.
- 14:00[SPEAKER_03]: She keeps her, she's the coolest about it, dude.
- 14:03[SPEAKER_03]: She's not making anything about it.
- 14:05[SPEAKER_03]: I can't believe, as we progress with this season, her, she's got a finger that's in a finger cast.
- 14:10[SPEAKER_03]: Her lip is busted open.
- 14:11[SPEAKER_03]: Like she's been through a lot, and she doesn't care, and I love her so much.
- 14:14[SPEAKER_02]: There was also a whole discussion about how her lip filler protected her face like an airbag, which I think is very funny.
- 14:21[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, it's got it's more than half of this cast is really good at the narrative at the narration part and that means a lot on a half.
- 14:28[SPEAKER_02]: For sure.
- 14:30[SPEAKER_02]: Coming in at number two, I still have two episodes left to actually catch up on it.
- 14:33[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just calling my shot because I can't stop thinking about it.
- 14:36[SPEAKER_02]: Pluribus is like one of the best things I've seen.
- 14:39[SPEAKER_03]: I wish I had I'm going to have it started again ever It is I've heard such incredible things.
- 14:45[SPEAKER_02]: It is so good.
- 14:46[SPEAKER_02]: It's slow.
- 14:48[SPEAKER_02]: It's character focused.
- 14:49[SPEAKER_02]: It is Vince Gilligan being Vince Gilligan and I'm loving it And the number one the the single best show of twenty twenty five for me Taskmaster put out two back to back bangers man.
- 15:00[SPEAKER_02]: I think probably two of the best seasons.
- 15:02[SPEAKER_02]: They've ever made in a row
- 15:04[SPEAKER_04]: two great season yeah yes they just announced uh the next season community is one of the five yeah it's amazing i believe you have champion of champions uh we've watched champion of champions okay and we've also watched the first episode of new years treat for this year okay everything's good champion of champions has an all-time uh an all-time was it series twenty the most recent one yeah
- 15:32[SPEAKER_04]: on all-time moment from the series 20 winner for me.
- 15:36[SPEAKER_02]: There's also, they released a 25-minute cut version of the prize task from Champion of Champions, because it was so unhinged.
- 15:42[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but yeah, the taskmaster is a show that it's the show that keeps on giving.
- 15:47[SPEAKER_02]: It is the show that Cali and I say the most, we are glad that we decided to start watching it, because it is,
- 15:54[SPEAKER_02]: such a source of joy in our lives anytime a new taskmaster season is coming and yeah because they're on that two season a year grind it feels like you're never very far from the next season beginning which is just a treat so yeah we're we're huge fans that's my number one of 2025.
- 16:09[SPEAKER_03]: I love that.
- 16:12[SPEAKER_03]: I my 2025 is a little bit all over the place.
- 16:17[SPEAKER_03]: But
- 16:19[SPEAKER_03]: If the theme is like the influence on my life as a whole, I think, on my life in terms of the intake of popular culture, of like what are the things that I learned?
- 16:31[SPEAKER_03]: What are like just specific moments, even in a singular movie?
- 16:34[SPEAKER_03]: Might not have been my favorite movie, but there was something that happened here cinematically that is something that I'll never forget.
- 16:40[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna start with number five, though, because a big part of my emotional wellness,
- 16:46[SPEAKER_03]: in my life has been to know when to say no to things and to understand what I want.
- 16:52[SPEAKER_03]: The raft scene in Jurassic Park rebirth is my number five when I walked out of the theater.
- 16:57[SPEAKER_03]: I stood up and said, I'm not going to do this.
- 17:01[SPEAKER_03]: I tend to, and I'm sitting there with a seasoned pass free ticket.
- 17:06[SPEAKER_03]: Could have had two.
- 17:07[SPEAKER_03]: Could have just, quote unquote, paid for another one to have an empty spot by me.
- 17:10[SPEAKER_03]: Didn't need two because I was one of like five people in there.
- 17:16[SPEAKER_03]: Even though I think this made a lot of money, but to sit through that with something that I love so much, which really ends up being just a singular movie that we're just beating to death and we've talked about this on the podcast.
- 17:28[SPEAKER_03]: It was just so awful.
- 17:29[SPEAKER_03]: It was so awful.
- 17:29[SPEAKER_03]: My brother-in-law Nolan, who doesn't really have good taste and he would say that himself in many things, he loves Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern that's his favorite movie of all time.
- 17:40[SPEAKER_03]: was live texting me over the holiday weekend or over the holidays about how awful Jurassic World rebirth is.
- 17:45[SPEAKER_03]: It is unbelievably, unbelievably bad.
- 17:49[SPEAKER_03]: And it had the 26, 25, the sexiest man alive in it, right in the middle of all of it, and it's still sucked.
- 17:54[SPEAKER_03]: It was so bad.
- 17:55[SPEAKER_03]: Got up, walked out.
- 17:56[SPEAKER_03]: I'll never forget that singular moment.
- 17:58[SPEAKER_03]: I have a show that made my list and it was hacks.
- 18:04[SPEAKER_03]: If you're not watching hacks,
- 18:06[SPEAKER_03]: This is one of the tightest continuous scripts and characters and character growth.
- 18:14[SPEAKER_03]: It is so funny and meaningful.
- 18:16[SPEAKER_03]: Hacks season four might be its best season, but it is one of those shows that you watch almost like a breaking bad.
- 18:21[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think what people talk about breaking bad they talk about a favorite season of breaking bad.
- 18:25[SPEAKER_03]: They talk about the collective experience of the show breaking bad.
- 18:29[SPEAKER_03]: I would imagine pleurobus is like this.
- 18:32[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, anything Gilligan does is like that.
- 18:34[SPEAKER_03]: But Hacks is brilliant and is absolutely worth the watch.
- 18:38[SPEAKER_03]: And it is one of those really sweet shows to where you're not sitting down, you know, for the people going through the slog of strangers things, you don't know if it's gonna be 50 minutes or it's gonna be a two hour episode.
- 18:48[SPEAKER_03]: And for the people that have like,
- 18:50[SPEAKER_03]: lives within keeping time, like that's a big part of their life is like I have to know when the next thing is and I have to sleep and I have to eat and all that stuff.
- 18:59[SPEAKER_03]: To have hacks be just like little 30 minute guys, little 30 35 minute boys, and then it's one of those great ones like what HBO will often do where you have like the age or Amazon Prime will have like the commentary after.
- 19:11[SPEAKER_03]: It's worth watching all of it.
- 19:13[SPEAKER_03]: And I haven't had a show like that.
- 19:14[SPEAKER_03]: In a bit, either because I haven't watched Plurobus yet and I'm just waiting, but Hacks is something that Chelsea and I really look forward to.
- 19:21[SPEAKER_03]: My number three moment and I sat in the theater with you guys and saw something that absolutely blew my mind.
- 19:29[SPEAKER_03]: There's a scene in 28 years later where Aaron Taylor Johnson's Jamie is running with his son.
- 19:34[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 19:37[SPEAKER_03]: Back to, as the sea is rising, running, yeah, I get goosebumps talking about it.
- 19:43[SPEAKER_03]: It is this gorgeous, massively scoped, and they're being chased by an alpha.
- 19:51[SPEAKER_03]: who could catch them on the way.
- 19:53[SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember being as like legitimately edge of my seat in a movie and gripped like that.
- 19:58[SPEAKER_03]: It's one of those moments too, where it's like, I'm soaking it in.
- 20:02[SPEAKER_03]: We talk about all the time about how the screen just kind of everything outside of the screen disappears in a really good moment in a movie.
- 20:08[SPEAKER_03]: You forget you're in the theater.
- 20:09[SPEAKER_03]: You're just like there with them.
- 20:10[SPEAKER_03]: It's terrifying.
- 20:11[SPEAKER_03]: It's epically beautiful.
- 20:14[SPEAKER_03]: There's a scene in 28 weeks later.
- 20:16[SPEAKER_03]: that I will never forget.
- 20:18[SPEAKER_03]: And it stands out in a big way to be.
- 20:20[SPEAKER_03]: So I wanted to have like a singular moment on here.
- 20:22[SPEAKER_03]: Number two for me is just to it's a movie.
- 20:24[SPEAKER_03]: It's one, one battle after another.
- 20:26[SPEAKER_03]: I can't remember the last time seeing like a wordy hype.
- 20:30[SPEAKER_03]: I think the older I get and the more blatantly political that a word shows are, I really begin to lose interest.
- 20:39[SPEAKER_03]: and some of these things who pay just the most to the academy.
- 20:41[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that book is not really working on me anymore.
- 20:44[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I love the Denise and James Cameron's of the world.
- 20:49[SPEAKER_03]: And even Chris Nolan, I know he got his flowers with Oppenheimer, but these kind of guys supporting each other and the Greta Gerwigs have just been like, hey,
- 20:58[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care.
- 20:59[SPEAKER_03]: I really just want to make a good movie, but one better left or another is going to be that sweep the academy kind of thing.
- 21:06[SPEAKER_03]: But it is legitimately very good.
- 21:09[SPEAKER_03]: It is very good movie.
- 21:11[SPEAKER_03]: And I can't believe you don't want to live up to the hype.
- 21:13[SPEAKER_03]: How many movies have you seen that's like, I would love to see like a scale because sometimes they'll be like the best month of the year, or the best month of the year, we just did that.
- 21:21[SPEAKER_03]: The best movie of the year, but you'll see that like early in the year, like it's March.
- 21:25[SPEAKER_03]: And critics say, best movie of 2026.
- 21:28[SPEAKER_03]: What that, right?
- 21:29[SPEAKER_03]: That holds no way.
- 21:32[SPEAKER_03]: I talk about this in some of our persuasion classes that I teach.
- 21:35[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, what is the legitimacy?
- 21:36[SPEAKER_03]: Let's critically think here.
- 21:37[SPEAKER_03]: That doesn't mean anything.
- 21:38[SPEAKER_03]: But to hear one battle up to another and see all of these media junkets of actors and other movies, saying, like, hey, you need to go see this.
- 21:46[SPEAKER_03]: I think you need to go see this.
- 21:47[SPEAKER_03]: Number one for me.
- 21:51[SPEAKER_03]: It is, it is the vibe that we get from Saturday afternoon when we spend that lovely time in the summer.
- 21:57[SPEAKER_03]: It is the Mad Max Fury Road.
- 22:00[SPEAKER_03]: The number one bit of pop culture that I took in was the movie Badlands, Predator Badlands.
- 22:06[SPEAKER_03]: This movie, I still haven't seen it do.
- 22:09[SPEAKER_03]: it you have to be so careful with franchises like that which no one has really ever cared what happens in alien I'm an alien stand and I I've got to I have it inked on my body I don't really care what happens I just want more like alien the show resurrect like alien earth was not going to be a part of my list because it's not a good show but I had a lot of fun but predator
- 22:35[SPEAKER_03]: been alien.
- 22:37[SPEAKER_03]: But Trash and Burke has come in and kind of said, this is my thing now.
- 22:40[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm really excited for it.
- 22:42[SPEAKER_03]: But Badlands gives you the feeling of predator, like OG predator, like Schwarzenegger in their kind of predator.
- 22:49[SPEAKER_03]: And what we've done now is essentially we've taken Schwarzenegger's character and how much we're rooting for him and made that a predator and given him a bit of enough backstory that doesn't really even matter.
- 23:01[SPEAKER_03]: Like we don't care what happens.
- 23:02[SPEAKER_03]: It's just so cool.
- 23:04[SPEAKER_03]: Big pal pal, big Pupue, lots of slash slash, and it is an absolutely wonderful time.
- 23:11[SPEAKER_03]: If you didn't get to see it in theaters,
- 23:13[SPEAKER_03]: Most people listening to this podcast probably have some great sentiment quality like headphones.
- 23:18[SPEAKER_03]: Do what you can to make sure that the sound is the best that it possibly can be.
- 23:22[SPEAKER_03]: Because this movie was my favorite experience of 2025.
- 23:26[SPEAKER_03]: One of the best action movies I've seen probably in a decade.
- 23:29[SPEAKER_03]: I'd almost put it up there with Fury Road.
- 23:30[SPEAKER_03]: Best thing I've seen since Mad Max Fury Road.
- 23:33[SPEAKER_03]: But that's my top five.
- 23:35[SPEAKER_03]: twenty twenty five moments.
- 23:36[SPEAKER_03]: A handful of those are things that I don't think were the most popular, but I wanted to make sure if anything to be like, hey, go experience this.
- 23:43[SPEAKER_03]: But it was good.
- 23:44[SPEAKER_03]: Twenty twenty five was overall pretty fine.
- 23:47[SPEAKER_03]: Excited to talk about twenty twenty six in a bit, because it feels pretty epic in a lot of ways.
- 23:52[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 23:53[SPEAKER_04]: For mine, I did two two top fives that I'm that of twenty twenty five and then one six that I'm looking forward to in twenty
- 24:03[SPEAKER_04]: 25, I chose to go movies or moments.
- 24:08[SPEAKER_04]: I have one list of movies, one list of moments in art or pop culture that I personally experienced in 2025.
- 24:14[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like it's more interesting for me and the way my brain works to talk about my year-in-art versus the release calendar of what was released this year.
- 24:25[SPEAKER_04]: And so we can start with, we'll start with movies,
- 24:31[SPEAKER_04]: And these are movies that I watched in 2025.
- 24:33[SPEAKER_04]: And a lot of them came out in 2025.
- 24:36[SPEAKER_04]: Number five is Noes Farratu, who watched it at the very beginning of the year last year.
- 24:39[SPEAKER_04]: I'm pretty sure it was a 2024 release, like right before Christmas.
- 24:43[SPEAKER_04]: But man, that movie absolutely rips.
- 24:46[SPEAKER_04]: And that was the first movie I saw in the theaters in 2025.
- 24:49[SPEAKER_04]: And if they get got the year off to a good start for me from a movie standpoint.
- 24:52[SPEAKER_04]: So number four, I watched this on,
- 24:56[SPEAKER_04]: New Year's Eve 2025 and so it barely made the cut, but I saw I finally saw sing sing at the recommendation of gauge our DM's from Imagine Dungeons.
- 25:06[SPEAKER_04]: Sing sing is fantastic.
- 25:09[SPEAKER_04]: You would love sing sing.
- 25:10[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's absolutely fantastic.
- 25:12[SPEAKER_04]: Squeak Janet the very end.
- 25:13[SPEAKER_04]: So I've got my bookins of the year.
- 25:14[SPEAKER_04]: The first movie I watched in 25 was No.
- 25:16[SPEAKER_04]: 2.
- 25:16[SPEAKER_04]: The last was sing sing pretty similar movies.
- 25:19[SPEAKER_04]: Number three, barely squeaked in 2025, was wake up dead, man.
- 25:24[SPEAKER_04]: The new knives out.
- 25:26[SPEAKER_04]: That movie is fantastic.
- 25:28[SPEAKER_04]: The writing, I think, in particular, for folks like us with a religious background, is very, very, physically an insider's take on religion and a really nuanced, a nuanced script that's supported by really, really strong performances.
- 25:45[SPEAKER_04]: As is the case for every knife's out movie.
- 25:49[SPEAKER_03]: Usually before I make some kind of claim, I hope that I have some kind of like spiritual research before I get to it, or just like, back to get up at all.
- 25:58[SPEAKER_03]: I think Ryan Johnson's, he's likely like the best writer and Hollywood right now, I think he's just so incredibly creative.
- 26:06[SPEAKER_03]: He's so creative.
- 26:08[SPEAKER_02]: He's certainly one of the most interesting writers without a doubt.
- 26:10[SPEAKER_02]: He is interesting.
- 26:12[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 26:13[SPEAKER_04]: Number two is a two way tie for my second favorite movie of the year.
- 26:18[SPEAKER_04]: between Superman and against all odds, K-pop demon hunters.
- 26:23[SPEAKER_04]: That is the movie that I saw in 25 that I cannot stop thinking about.
- 26:28[SPEAKER_04]: That K-pop demon hunters more than any movie I saw last year gave me the feeling of like, man, I wanna watch every single behind the scenes.
- 26:38[SPEAKER_04]: I wanna watch the, like tell me about the script writing process, tell me about the sound design process,
- 26:43[SPEAKER_04]: I'm on, uh, I get a lot of tiktoks of like music production and audio production.
- 26:49[SPEAKER_04]: And for a while, I was getting exclusively like, here's how we made the sound design for for each of their weapons and how we made sure that they are in the key of the song that's playing while they're fighting.
- 27:01[SPEAKER_04]: time to the beat and the sound of, you know, this, whatever magic sword is actually this thing that's pitch-shifted to match this key and it's just so interesting, such a very intentional and layered production all the way top to bottom.
- 27:14[SPEAKER_04]: And I do feel the same way about Superman.
- 27:16[SPEAKER_04]: I think James Gunn had that attention to detail all the way top to bottom for Superman.
- 27:20[SPEAKER_04]: So two A tie for second place.
- 27:22[SPEAKER_04]: Number one movie of 2025 for me was sinners.
- 27:25[SPEAKER_04]: That came out of nowhere.
- 27:29[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't expect it to be what it was, but I expected it to be good.
- 27:33[SPEAKER_04]: But I saw twice in theaters.
- 27:36[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's absolutely fantastic.
- 27:38[SPEAKER_04]: I really hope I think that my top two movie centers and K-pop demon hunters are going to be fighting each other for the Oscar for Best Original Song.
- 27:46[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 27:47[SPEAKER_04]: I think Golden is probably going to win that.
- 27:50[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 27:51[SPEAKER_04]: But I think I lied to you that middle moment in sinners is a really strong competitor for sure.
- 27:58[SPEAKER_03]: Cooklers and other one of those two that it's like, just makes it do me stuff.
- 28:02[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I care how much.
- 28:03[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he doesn't care too much about the award stuff.
- 28:05[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
- 28:07[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, dude.
- 28:07[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 28:08[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's awesome.
- 28:09[SPEAKER_02]: I'll do my last Top 5 real quick, which is what the year of 2025 will be remembered for me, which is this was a video game year, y'all.
- 28:20[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, maybe the best year of video games of my lifetime, just in terms of releases and quality.
- 28:26[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it almost makes me sad to think about 2026 and how there's no way it's going to be quite that good because 2025 was just phenomenal.
- 28:34[SPEAKER_02]: But I'll start with, I have an honorable mention here just because it wasn't going to make the top five,
- 28:39[SPEAKER_02]: a recommendation if you at all, especially if you have like hand held, I think it's probably on iPhone as well.
- 28:45[SPEAKER_02]: Game called Monster Train 2, it's a rogue-like deck builder.
- 28:48[SPEAKER_02]: It's just fun, it's really deep and you can play it for 15 minutes at a time and then not touch it for three months and then pick it back up right where you left off and have a blast and it's a game that I've just returned to.
- 29:02[SPEAKER_02]: Several, several times this year, I came out in the spring and I just, I keep playing it over and over again in it.
- 29:08[SPEAKER_02]: It's really, really fun.
- 29:09[SPEAKER_02]: It's sort of filling a slot that Balatra filled for me for all of last year, which is just brainless fun.
- 29:18[SPEAKER_02]: But for my actual top five, this was tough, this was a great year for games in terms of writing voice acting and actual game play mechanics and fun, these games tend to hit all of the above for me except for number five, which really succeeds mostly in two of those categories.
- 29:39[SPEAKER_02]: Really sneaking in under the wire here for number five is a game called dispatch.
- 29:44[SPEAKER_02]: Dispatch is a tail tail style game.
- 29:47[SPEAKER_02]: It's basically a TV show that you watch and then make a couple decisions to change the outcome of the game.
- 29:53[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's sort of a maintenance video game in the middle of it that involves decisions and making the right calls at your job.
- 30:04[SPEAKER_02]: Essentially it's a game where you are a former superhero in a world full of superheroes that is invited
- 30:16[SPEAKER_02]: Not part time, a full time temporary job as a dispatcher at a superhero dispatching company.
- 30:23[SPEAKER_02]: So basically you're a 911 dispatcher who's job it is to assign the correct superhero to the call that you get from.
- 30:30[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, someone in need, but the writing of the game is it's hysterical.
- 30:34[SPEAKER_02]: There is a roughly 10 minute sequence of this game that is, uh, I think it's an episode five.
- 30:41[SPEAKER_02]: It's an eight episode game in an episode five.
- 30:44[SPEAKER_02]: There's a 10 minute sequence that is one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life.
- 30:50[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I, we were crying laughing on the couch like playing through this video game.
- 30:54[SPEAKER_02]: But the writing is amazing.
- 30:55[SPEAKER_02]: Aaron Paul is the main character.
- 30:57[SPEAKER_02]: Um.
- 30:59[SPEAKER_02]: Geoffrey Wright is in this game.
- 31:02[SPEAKER_02]: Laura Bailey, who's the voice of Abby from the last of us is in this game.
- 31:05[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a phenomenal video game really, really fun.
- 31:09[SPEAKER_02]: So that's that's at my number five.
- 31:10[SPEAKER_02]: Number four is Hades 2.
- 31:13[SPEAKER_02]: Now, Haiti's one is they refer to it as the godlike roguelike, but you are the son of Haiti's fighting your way to the surface world for reasons unknown and it's just fun and tight in the art is amazing and all the characters are unbelievably good looking and Haiti's two is just more and better of the same.
- 31:34[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it didn't quite get the accolades it deserved because
- 31:39[SPEAKER_02]: How do you improve on perfection?
- 31:40[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, he's one is basically a perfect video game and hey, he's two is just that again.
- 31:44[SPEAKER_02]: But you can't really understand how impossible it is to do that twice.
- 31:49[SPEAKER_02]: And man, hey, he's two did it twice.
- 31:54[SPEAKER_02]: Really, really cool, new character fresh take on the gameplay.
- 31:57[SPEAKER_02]: It feels in conversation with the first game without feeling like a redo.
- 32:02[SPEAKER_02]: It's really, really good.
- 32:04[SPEAKER_02]: The music's incredible.
- 32:05[SPEAKER_02]: For number three, it's Hollow Knight Silksong, um, heard of it.
- 32:11[SPEAKER_02]: It's so difficult, um, it is a really hard video game, but man, the the music, the atmosphere in the story.
- 32:19[SPEAKER_02]: This was a year full of a lot of art that was in conversation with modern religion, and, um, a lot of art that I find, uh, as somebody who is, you know, always wrestling with where I'm
- 32:34[SPEAKER_02]: What's going on?
- 32:35[SPEAKER_02]: I find it really encouraging when I find art that is generous and it's reads on religion that doesn't say, you know, that doesn't throw the baby out with the bathwater and silks on that's so brilliant.
- 32:46[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, and for a really tough Metroidvania about a little bug.
- 32:51[SPEAKER_02]: silksong really is willing to make some statements and ask some questions that I think are really insightful and thoughtful and generous.
- 33:00[SPEAKER_02]: On top of just being so much fun.
- 33:02[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, to play have some I have some awesome kiddos that I take to school every Wednesday and morning and one of them is a 15 year old and he that's kind of what we talked about all semester with silksong.
- 33:15[SPEAKER_03]: He had he had
- 33:17[SPEAKER_03]: And I asked the silly question of, like, is it more difficult than just hollin' it and he, like, good for odd.
- 33:29[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, it's not even the same level.
- 33:32[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, that is true.
- 33:33[SPEAKER_02]: Hollow Knight, Hollow Knight is hard.
- 33:35[SPEAKER_03]: Zilksong is something else.
- 33:37[SPEAKER_03]: He was talking about watching, like, the difference between watching speedruns for the two of them.
- 33:42[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like this, you will never get through.
- 33:44[SPEAKER_03]: Zilksong is fast as you could.
- 33:46[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just don't think it's possible.
- 33:47[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
- 33:47[SPEAKER_02]: Although, never underestimate how crazy those guys are.
- 33:50[SPEAKER_04]: People are wild.
- 33:51[SPEAKER_04]: Speedruns.
- 33:52[SPEAKER_04]: They're always doing new stuff.
- 33:53[SPEAKER_04]: They can always go faster.
- 33:55[SPEAKER_02]: Number two is a game that I don't think I've seen anybody get any, I haven't seen anybody really talking about this outside of my very small internet circles, but Octopath Traveler's Euro is a phenomenal game.
- 34:08[SPEAKER_02]: It's a JRPG turn-based party-based game that
- 34:12[SPEAKER_02]: The writing's amazing.
- 34:13[SPEAKER_02]: The music is as per usual, incredible in the in the Octopath series and it's very long.
- 34:20[SPEAKER_02]: So make sure you like it before you get into it because I'm going to take you a minute to get through it.
- 34:25[SPEAKER_02]: It kept it did the return of the king thing where I kept thinking it was over and then it keep going.
- 34:31[SPEAKER_02]: But I was never too thing right, but I was never sad about it continually just never stopping because of how much fun I had.
- 34:38[SPEAKER_02]: I can't really say too much about the actual story of the game because it's one of the only octopath traveler games.
- 34:43[SPEAKER_02]: I would say is spoiler but it's it's really phenomenal in the ton of fun.
- 34:47[SPEAKER_02]: The 2D HD like art style is really hooked to me recently and then last but certainly not least Number one if you keep up with video games at all, you know it already clear obscure I'm sorry three is not only the best game of the year, but probably one of the three best games of the decade so far to me It is what do you play that on?
- 35:09[SPEAKER_02]: uh... it's on everything pretty much except for switch but uh... i played it on playstation um... and it's uh... man it is jrpg turn based uh... good year for turn base games uh... but it is it's everything you want the writing is phenomenal the voice acting Jennifer English who plays mail in the game who's also shadow heart in balder's gate three Jennifer English is
- 35:34[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, an absolute treat in everything she's in.
- 35:39[SPEAKER_02]: She's consistently the best part of every game she's in, and that's no different in Clare Obscure.
- 35:44[SPEAKER_04]: It is, do you think the presence of turn-based games, that sort of the forefront of the video game conversation this year is,
- 35:54[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think there's a door that was kicked down by Baldur's skate?
- 35:57[SPEAKER_04]: Or do you think there's like, uh, maybe people are like, oh, actually I like this.
- 36:00[SPEAKER_04]: Cause I think development cycle, they're probably, it's probably too soon after Baldur's skate to be like, we should make a turn-based and then it come out this.
- 36:06[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't think so.
- 36:07[SPEAKER_02]: And Baldur's gates such a different, cause it's a CRPG, so it involves like movement and tactics.
- 36:11[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a much different style of turn-based than Clare Obscure and Octopath.
- 36:15[SPEAKER_02]: I think turn-based, people keep saying this was the year that turn-based came back.
- 36:18[SPEAKER_02]: It never went away.
- 36:19[SPEAKER_02]: It's just
- 36:20[SPEAKER_02]: They've been so popular recently because they've some really good ones have come out, which I think is really more what it is fair.
- 36:27[SPEAKER_02]: But no, Clare Obscure is a game about grief.
- 36:31[SPEAKER_02]: It is an exploration of grief with a lot of heart, a lot of humor, and a ton of nuance.
- 36:37[SPEAKER_02]: It's way funnier than I thought it would be.
- 36:39[SPEAKER_02]: Genuinely super funny.
- 36:41[SPEAKER_02]: Lived out loud many times playing the game.
- 36:43[SPEAKER_02]: I can't even really talk about it in detail because one of us is currently playing it, but me.
- 36:48[SPEAKER_02]: It is, it is a game that kept me engaged, guessing, and maybe conflicted until the credits roll.
- 36:58[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 36:59[SPEAKER_02]: And even then after the credits rolled, I still was, it's one of those games that you go on YouTube and watch 20 different people say, why this thing happened and all these different things and you're just like,
- 37:09[SPEAKER_02]: Man, I got a for my it's amazing.
- 37:12[SPEAKER_02]: I would say it is a game that even if you don't like video games or you're not good at them But you have a way to play it Buy it put it on easy mode.
- 37:20[SPEAKER_02]: It's cheap.
- 37:21[SPEAKER_02]: They haven't raised the price over $45 since it came out But the music everything I can't say enough music about it.
- 37:28[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of those games that I think would
- 37:30[SPEAKER_02]: B.A.
- 37:32[SPEAKER_02]: I don't play video games, but I loved this in the same way that the last of us was for a lot of people.
- 37:36[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's awesome.
- 37:36[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, I can't say enough good about it.
- 37:38[SPEAKER_02]: I was blown away.
- 37:42[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to blow through my five moments, drop culture moments of 2025.
- 37:47[SPEAKER_04]: When I say pop culture, I mean basically the art that I consumed in 2025.
- 37:51[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
- 37:52[SPEAKER_04]: Number five, these two movies I've already mentioned them, so I'm not going to get deep into it, but I lied to you that sequence right in the middle of sinners.
- 38:00[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, and then Superman, the very end of Superman, uh, when he's like play the video of my parents and it's his parents from earth.
- 38:07[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 38:07[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 38:07[SPEAKER_04]: Those two, those two moments in those two movies are to me like, that's what I think of when I think of those movies.
- 38:14[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 38:15[SPEAKER_04]: And it's interesting that those two moments are kind of what neither of those movies are about.
- 38:21[SPEAKER_04]: You know, like, my favorite moment from sinners has no vampires in it.
- 38:25[SPEAKER_04]: My favorite moment from Superman has no super pan.
- 38:28[SPEAKER_03]: And yet, yeah, I'm really wondering about fighting.
- 38:30[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but it's not what it's about.
- 38:32[SPEAKER_03]: It's not going to show up as one of the genre tags.
- 38:34[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
- 38:35[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 38:35[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
- 38:36[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, number four for me.
- 38:38[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, was the, and this will make sense to people who have read the book, the birth of the hollers in the first red rising, that is one of the moments, uh, one of the only moments in a book that I can remember that I, that literally, my jaw drop is a reaction to something I was reading on the page.
- 38:57[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
- 38:57[SPEAKER_04]: I've thought about that quite a lot.
- 38:59[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, number three, the climax of Predator Killer of Killers.
- 39:04[SPEAKER_04]: That is a movie that is not going to be on anybody's top five.
- 39:08[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe nobody's top 10 of the movies they're watching a given year.
- 39:11[SPEAKER_04]: But the climax of that movie is just everything that I wanted that movie to be.
- 39:17[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 39:18[SPEAKER_03]: And by climax you mean the ultimate climax for me there was when you say climax of killer of killers I'm like well There's four of them.
- 39:24[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 39:25[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, it's part four the very last action sequence of that movie is Cool, that's one of those were like I know that for the last 25 minutes.
- 39:34[SPEAKER_03]: I breathed I had breath right right
- 39:41[SPEAKER_04]: Number two, I read at the very beginning of 2025, and I'm going to put Adolens Arc in Wind and Truth.
- 39:49[SPEAKER_04]: The fifth book this from my archives.
- 39:52[SPEAKER_04]: I've always loved this character and the direction that Brandon's Anderson took, Adolens in this final book of Part One, is fantastic, the best part of the book.
- 40:06[SPEAKER_04]: Number one, I just have childhood games on here.
- 40:09[SPEAKER_04]: I played in beat two games that I was never able to as a kid and was surprised by particularly surprised by how easy one of them was, play through, tie the Tasmanian tiger on my switch.
- 40:20[SPEAKER_04]: And that was a game when I was a kid that was the hardest thing I could imagine.
- 40:25[SPEAKER_04]: And after playing for 25 minutes as an adult, I got farther than I ever got as a kid.
- 40:31[SPEAKER_04]: And so it was cool to be like, oh, I remember playing this
- 40:35[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I remember playing this stuff from the end of the game and I didn't have to use a cheat code to unlock all the levels to get there.
- 40:41[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 40:43[SPEAKER_04]: So it was fun to play that.
- 40:44[SPEAKER_04]: And then you probably have heard me talk about it.
- 40:46[SPEAKER_04]: I played through Majora's Mask earlier this year.
- 40:49[SPEAKER_04]: And that game is just fantastic.
- 40:51[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like I think.
- 40:53[SPEAKER_04]: It would be reductive for me to try and say all the ways that that game is incredibly written, all the ways that it has made a lasting impact on gaming, because I don't know all of them.
- 41:05[SPEAKER_04]: All I know is that that game is absolutely fantastic and feels really ahead of its time.
- 41:09[SPEAKER_04]: It still holds up 30 years later.
- 41:10[SPEAKER_02]: For a game that came out and I think 2001, yeah, it is, it is a compliment to say that game is
- 41:21[SPEAKER_02]: a handful of fetch quests too many from a 10 like it that game would be a 10 if it had like five less fetch quests which is saying really saying something for a game that is almost 25 years old right and that's if I spent a little bit less time fighting aliens coming to get cows off of a farm right if I could Chris cross if I could Chris cross terminal five less times
- 41:45[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 41:45[SPEAKER_02]: It would really, it would really do a lot for that game.
- 41:48[SPEAKER_02]: And you really only have to do that if you want the fear Steady ending.
- 41:51[SPEAKER_02]: You can beat the game without doing all that.
- 41:53[SPEAKER_02]: So it's why would you?
- 41:54[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you, though?
- 41:54[SPEAKER_00]: That's so cool.
- 41:57[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, we're going to have to shout announcements.
- 42:00[SPEAKER_02]: A super late game shout announcements and we'll end our episode talking about what we're looking forward to in 2026.
- 42:06[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be right back.
- 42:09[SPEAKER_02]: Barrett Barrett Barrett Barrett Barrett.
- 42:22[SPEAKER_01]: Well, shout-and-outs, it's so nice.
- 42:25[SPEAKER_03]: Now flip-free floor at this time.
- 42:27[SPEAKER_03]: Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go
- 42:47[SPEAKER_04]: 2026 is the year that we all learned to beatbox.
- 42:50[SPEAKER_04]: Mate.
- 42:50[SPEAKER_04]: Mate.
- 42:51[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, dude.
- 42:53[SPEAKER_03]: I guess we're just waiting on you, Dosh.
- 42:54[SPEAKER_03]: Is that what you're saying?
- 42:55[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, 2026 is the year I learned to beatbox just like my friends.
- 42:59[SPEAKER_04]: 2026 is the year Dosh catches up.
- 43:03[SPEAKER_04]: But speaking of catching up, now's the great time to catch up on Imagine Dungeons.
- 43:08[SPEAKER_04]: We put out a two-part Christmas episode last month.
- 43:12[SPEAKER_04]: And if you're somebody like me who believes we're still pretty close to Christmas, you can listen to it.
- 43:16[SPEAKER_04]: If you're somebody like Jordan, we'll congrats.
- 43:18[SPEAKER_04]: He's just a meal prep some podcast for you.
- 43:19[SPEAKER_04]: That'll be in the back of the fridge ready for you at the end of this year.
- 43:23[SPEAKER_04]: But our main show.
- 43:24[SPEAKER_04]: We've got three episodes of the second season out so far.
- 43:27[SPEAKER_04]: You can binge those guys to be ready for episode four to drop.
- 43:30[SPEAKER_04]: Here pretty soon the beginning of the year.
- 43:33[SPEAKER_04]: We love making this show, we love playing this story together and then we love telling you the story that we've played together.
- 43:42[SPEAKER_04]: So it would mean a lot to us if you checked it out.
- 43:43[SPEAKER_04]: And if you like it, leave us a rating and review over there on Imagine Dungeons.
- 43:49[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
- 43:50[SPEAKER_04]: Is it?
- 43:51[SPEAKER_04]: And that's it.
- 43:52[SPEAKER_04]: And that's kind of the way I beat box.
- 43:55[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 43:55[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my name is Dolce and I'm here to say that we made a podcast for you every day.
- 44:00[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go back and say it's so good.
- 44:02[SPEAKER_03]: It's always, it always.
- 44:03[SPEAKER_03]: That's when you know they're they're spit and fired.
- 44:06[SPEAKER_03]: If you're here to say, I'm here to listen.
- 44:08[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
- 44:09[SPEAKER_03]: I'm here to listen to everything you hear to say.
- 44:13[SPEAKER_01]: Well, my name is Jordan, and we made some picks of all the things we're looking to in 26.
- 44:18[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's what we did now.
- 44:19[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 44:20[SPEAKER_02]: That's a character I'm playing called Guy who thinks that rapping is beat boxing, and it only knows rappers the light.
- 44:25[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's called beatboxers the light.
- 44:27[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure.
- 44:27[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
- 44:28[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sure.
- 44:29[SPEAKER_02]: We're looking forward to some things in 2026.
- 44:31[SPEAKER_02]: Some stuff that's coming down the pipe.
- 44:34[SPEAKER_02]: In that phrase, is that idiom coming down the pipe?
- 44:36[SPEAKER_02]: I know, dude.
- 44:37[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's coming down the pipe.
- 44:39[SPEAKER_02]: Um, which is, you know, what does that mean?
- 44:42[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even, I don't know, I'm to a pike to, I can point to a pike for you.
- 44:45[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know where it is.
- 44:46[SPEAKER_04]: What do you see come is?
- 44:47[SPEAKER_04]: Come a down the half pipe because it's going to be radical.
- 44:51[SPEAKER_04]: It's coming down the pike.
- 44:53[SPEAKER_02]: It is coming down the pike.
- 44:54[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
- 44:56[SPEAKER_02]: Turn, shortened form of turn, pike, meaning road.
- 45:00[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, it's coming down the pipe because it's water.
- 45:02[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's Mario, it's super Mario.
- 45:04[SPEAKER_04]: It's Mario.
- 45:04[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really looking forward to the Mario movie.
- 45:06[SPEAKER_02]: Can I go first this time for 20 minutes?
- 45:08[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay.
- 45:09[SPEAKER_04]: Go first this time.
- 45:11[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the best part of my boxing.
- 45:14[SPEAKER_03]: Binds movies a TV, again.
- 45:17[SPEAKER_03]: Didn't have music, didn't have readings.
- 45:19[SPEAKER_03]: I have been enjoying going back through Harry Potter because I could take you to look forward to it.
- 45:23[SPEAKER_03]: Almost maybe by 26 of just more talk of the Harry Potter show.
- 45:27[SPEAKER_03]: It's fun to watch the, I can't remember the last time I was like, oh, there's a new screenshot of the film set and stuff.
- 45:32[SPEAKER_03]: And now we get to see the lift go as Dumbledore and all that fun stuff.
- 45:36[SPEAKER_03]: Number five for me is a book that I read in 2025 that has the movie coming out.
- 45:40[SPEAKER_03]: It's one of my favorite things to do.
- 45:41[SPEAKER_03]: Read the book that's about to be the movie, so we can have that little double dip.
- 45:45[SPEAKER_03]: And everybody involved in the movie has me super excited, which you don't need many people because the cast isn't that big.
- 45:52[SPEAKER_03]: but our same author of the Martian, wrote a movie called Project Hillmeree, a wrote a book called Project Hillmeree that is fantastic.
- 46:00[SPEAKER_03]: It's absolutely worth a read.
- 46:02[SPEAKER_03]: I tend to, we've talked about before, the main flexes of some of our epic sci-fi and fantasy writers.
- 46:08[SPEAKER_03]: And really, if it aligns more with your world view and the things that you're interested in, you tend to connect more to those.
- 46:14[SPEAKER_03]: Hence Tolkien being my favorite because of anthropology and history.
- 46:19[SPEAKER_03]: just relationships and Brandon Sanderson being so good about that too and emotional and internal struggles.
- 46:26[SPEAKER_03]: Project Hill Mary is great and Ryan Gosling is going to be our lead for that.
- 46:30[SPEAKER_03]: And it comes out the movie comes out in 2026.
- 46:32[SPEAKER_03]: It is a very easy read of a book.
- 46:35[SPEAKER_03]: So here is the little bookmark for you to go ahead and read that book real quick so you can go see the movie because I really think it's going to be phenomenal.
- 46:44[SPEAKER_03]: Number four, it's so funny that in my 2025, I was like knowing what to say no to.
- 46:48[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I'm gonna walk out of Doom's day.
- 46:49[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so fascinated with this mess.
- 46:53[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so fascinated with this mess.
- 46:55[SPEAKER_03]: So I can't say that I'm not looking forward to it because the slow roll right now of like, bro, we knew everybody's coming back.
- 47:02[SPEAKER_03]: It is not surprised to us Marvel.
- 47:04[SPEAKER_03]: that you're doing everything that you can to make a lot of money.
- 47:08[SPEAKER_03]: And so I have no idea what they're going to do.
- 47:12[SPEAKER_03]: I will go in as a skeptic, which I rightly ever do.
- 47:15[SPEAKER_03]: And so if they even manage to make me be like, yeah, it's a little bit better than I thought, then maybe that's a win.
- 47:22[SPEAKER_03]: To regard this, it'll make over $2 billion and good for you, Marvel.
- 47:24[SPEAKER_03]: You can keep this.
- 47:25[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
- 47:25[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I love hotels that I stayed at in the parks and all that stuff, so I'm going to I will I will fuel that fire of probably until I die, but do you stay I will see it for sure, but I am I am surprising myself by how little I care about that.
- 47:42[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I can't believe how big of a deal they're making that and it's it's so far outside of phases that no one even knows what the phases anymore unless you go to marble con or something.
- 47:51[SPEAKER_03]: Right, it's like.
- 47:52[SPEAKER_03]: It's so bizarre, and so in a, is it going to be how many wrecks will be in this race?
- 47:58[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care about, that's the vibe I have about doomsday.
- 48:03[SPEAKER_03]: Number three for me, I just put sports.
- 48:05[SPEAKER_03]: So sports and tell, yeah, sure, man.
- 48:08[SPEAKER_03]: Hell yeah.
- 48:09[SPEAKER_03]: Winter Olympics starts in less than a month.
- 48:12[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 48:12[SPEAKER_03]: The World Cup is in the United States.
- 48:16[SPEAKER_03]: And our very city is hosting a lot of the World Cup, the University that I work at.
- 48:23[SPEAKER_03]: is dorming during the summer national teams will be staying at D.B.U.
- 48:28[SPEAKER_03]: in practicing for the World Cup because we've we've got a bunch of dormitories that you can just stay in our housing and I'm sure we're not charging the I'm sure I'm sure we're paying them somehow to come stay at our campus but just they have some leadership scholarship yes the Dallas stars are going to win the Stanley Cup it's just a big massive
- 48:50[SPEAKER_03]: worldwide support.
- 48:51[SPEAKER_03]: I love world competition sports, big thing with the, I got these, these other two to a star's game and I think the, the star's production crew, the people that run that game
- 49:05[SPEAKER_03]: the best in the Metroplex, but some of the best live sports have ever been to.
- 49:08[SPEAKER_03]: It's so fun.
- 49:09[SPEAKER_04]: That's going to be the funnest job to, like, it's on team that puts on the show in which the game takes place.
- 49:16[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's the first time in 12 years that, of course, winner Olympics has hockey, normally in hockey, because the winter Olympics are right in the middle of the NHL season.
- 49:27[SPEAKER_03]: They just use the best youths that they have these 18 and 16 year olds that are competing and maybe who's somebody who comes out of retirement and it's like, I can I can get these third set of teeth after this is done.
- 49:40[SPEAKER_03]: So the NHL is back in
- 49:45[SPEAKER_03]: Olympic hockey so the roasters were released recently of who made you know team Finland and team Canada and it's a big deal and so it's going to be interesting there too because there's the dynamic of if a guy gets hurt playing for the national team contractually what does that mean for their professional team it's a mess too but it's an exciting mess and a lot of these guys you would think are going to be like let's let's be pretty safe because you know that what's
- 50:11[SPEAKER_03]: The pride, though, of these northern country, someone's gonna die, I think, maybe.
- 50:17[SPEAKER_03]: It's really good.
- 50:18[SPEAKER_03]: For me, for number two, I put people I love fighting.
- 50:22[SPEAKER_03]: This is, I love the Trader's cast.
- 50:25[SPEAKER_03]: that we have 2026 that's going to be very soon, premiering.
- 50:28[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 50:29[SPEAKER_03]: Survivor 50 is in 2026.
- 50:31[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 50:31[SPEAKER_03]: So we are we are just essentially it's so funny that this is kind of like doomsday wishes, right?
- 50:37[SPEAKER_03]: Doomsday is collecting all of these characters that you've grown to know and love.
- 50:40[SPEAKER_03]: And a few of them are new and quirky and it's like, how are they going to interact with each other?
- 50:44[SPEAKER_03]: The real doomsday is going to be survivor 50 and in this new season of traders are really excited for you number one for me is just simply zindaya She's doing everything.
- 50:54[SPEAKER_03]: Zindaya is going to be in the new dood movie.
- 50:56[SPEAKER_03]: Zindaya is in the new spider-man movie.
- 50:58[SPEAKER_03]: Zindaya is in the Odyssey.
- 50:59[SPEAKER_03]: So rather than just saying like I'm going to make these three zindaya movies by number one two and three Zindaya.
- 51:05[SPEAKER_03]: Zindaya.
- 51:05[SPEAKER_03]: She can also put in Robert Pattinson here because he basically has a
- 51:11[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I can't believe the amount of work that they have done.
- 51:13[SPEAKER_03]: And again, a lot of these movies have already been filmed.
- 51:16[SPEAKER_03]: We're in just post-production.
- 51:17[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 51:18[SPEAKER_03]: But man's in day is just going to sit back and just get cash, bro.
- 51:21[SPEAKER_03]: She's about to make so much money.
- 51:23[SPEAKER_03]: I love her so much.
- 51:24[SPEAKER_03]: She is a genuine.
- 51:26[SPEAKER_03]: celebrity love, Tom, all that stuff.
- 51:28[SPEAKER_03]: They're in two of these movies together.
- 51:29[SPEAKER_03]: And so, very excited for that.
- 51:32[SPEAKER_03]: Cool to see Nolan do a big epic like this.
- 51:34[SPEAKER_03]: I can't help but look, I love my people so much.
- 51:38[SPEAKER_03]: I love my friends so much.
- 51:39[SPEAKER_03]: I think of Doge.
- 51:40[SPEAKER_03]: I think of you every time I see something about the Odyssey.
- 51:42[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, there could not be a movie show more exciting.
- 51:45[SPEAKER_03]: Coming list that I'm excited.
- 51:46[SPEAKER_03]: I could not be more excited for something for you.
- 51:49[SPEAKER_03]: Then when that comes out, but 2026 really does seem coming from someone who's an optimist that's walked out of rebirth, and I think I was excited for that, too 2026 is going to be epic.
- 52:02[SPEAKER_03]: Failure or win who knows, but there's a lot of really really cool stuff happening in 2026.
- 52:08[SPEAKER_03]: For sure
- 52:09[SPEAKER_04]: I'll blow through mine quickly.
- 52:10[SPEAKER_04]: Number five, Survivor 50.
- 52:12[SPEAKER_04]: We've already talked about it.
- 52:13[SPEAKER_04]: I'm very excited about Survivor 50.
- 52:15[SPEAKER_03]: Shut up, White Lotus.
- 52:17[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I can't believe he's doing it.
- 52:18[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so excited.
- 52:20[SPEAKER_02]: Passing for White Lotus season four begins when Survivor 50 starts.
- 52:24[SPEAKER_02]: Number gosh.
- 52:25[SPEAKER_02]: Number four getting coached.
- 52:27[SPEAKER_02]: We're getting coached season four of White Lotus.
- 52:30[SPEAKER_04]: Dude, I would love that so much.
- 52:32[SPEAKER_00]: The dragon's so good.
- 52:33[SPEAKER_04]: Definitely the biggest role this Survivor character has ever had.
- 52:35[SPEAKER_00]: Dragon's so good.
- 52:36[SPEAKER_00]: You're so good.
- 52:37[SPEAKER_04]: Number four, there's a lot of exciting things that I'm enjoying right now that are in progress.
- 52:43[SPEAKER_04]: So number four, I put finishing Expedition 33 Red Rising and Dungeon Crawler Coral.
- 52:49[SPEAKER_02]: I am mid-commoning.
- 52:50[SPEAKER_04]: Mid-flight in each of those three.
- 52:53[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm excited to keep doing what I'm doing there.
- 52:56[SPEAKER_04]: That's a number three.
- 52:58[SPEAKER_04]: Number three, more of a, like, I can't tell if this is gonna be a disaster or not.
- 53:05[SPEAKER_04]: is 28 years later, the bone temple?
- 53:07[SPEAKER_04]: Dude, the fact that it's like a sequel coming out.
- 53:10[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 53:11[SPEAKER_04]: A sort of in-between sequel coming out like, now, or the ring's trilogy to it.
- 53:15[SPEAKER_04]: They made all these movies.
- 53:15[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 53:16[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 53:17[SPEAKER_03]: So like, the way how 28 years ended.
- 53:19[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 53:21[SPEAKER_04]: Right, I mean, this is, this is on my list mostly because it's like I have no idea what to expect it's on my list for the same reason that Jess and I have on our date night list this like Asian Mexican fusion restaurant because mostly it's like how are you doing that what are you what is that going to be yeah and I'm really excited to see what happens with with the bone temple number two doing three
- 53:48[SPEAKER_04]: I love it when you write a big worm and going to do it probably again and some even cooler stuff now.
- 53:57[SPEAKER_04]: The Dune movies are to me they feel like the Lord of the Rings trilogy, where it's just like I want to know everything about how you made this.
- 54:05[SPEAKER_04]: You're making a movie to such a scale that like nobody else is really doing right now.
- 54:12[SPEAKER_04]: And it's just, I don't know, the tone of them to it.
- 54:15[SPEAKER_04]: Like it takes itself seriously.
- 54:16[SPEAKER_04]: It's not, it's not like overly joky or poppony or blackbustry.
- 54:20[SPEAKER_04]: It's a true like epic movie epic style storytelling.
- 54:25[SPEAKER_04]: So it's kind of for doing three.
- 54:26[SPEAKER_03]: It's been really cool to see how much James Cameron has been gassing up, to be.
- 54:30[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's a junkie for avatar.
- 54:32[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's like, why is nobody, he's like, the word, if you don't need any more reason to see that the award shows are just worthless.
- 54:40[SPEAKER_03]: Why has no, why did, why did do not win everything?
- 54:43[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, people think that these movies just happen.
- 54:45[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, that is so incredibly hard.
- 54:47[SPEAKER_03]: We talk about that.
- 54:48[SPEAKER_03]: I talked about in my top 20 25 moments that running scene in, that chase scene, essentially, I'll call it in 20 years later.
- 55:00[SPEAKER_03]: 15, 16 moments of like, this is gorgeous.
- 55:03[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 55:04[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 55:04[SPEAKER_03]: This is gorgeous.
- 55:05[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, it almost feels like a rap party, or like a graduation party.
- 55:10[SPEAKER_03]: Because remember how worried we were that it wouldn't do well enough that he could actually get all the trilogy through to the theaters?
- 55:15[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 55:16[SPEAKER_03]: It's really cool that we're going to get to see all of them on the big screen.
- 55:18[SPEAKER_03]: It's amazing.
- 55:18[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm so excited.
- 55:20[SPEAKER_04]: Number one for me is the Odyssey.
- 55:24[SPEAKER_04]: I obviously am so excited about this.
- 55:26[SPEAKER_03]: How much have you drilled over Agamemnons?
- 55:29[SPEAKER_04]: Come on helmet that that helmet is wild No, this is and it's interesting.
- 55:35[SPEAKER_04]: I think from a a meta movie standpoint too because this is yet another installment in the Matt Damon gets lost cinematic series But this time we're going with him so it's kind of new.
- 55:48[SPEAKER_04]: That's fun.
- 55:48[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I guess we went with him in the Martian, but he's good at it No, hey, he's just gonna go to the last dude
- 55:54[SPEAKER_03]: Get him out there, Hank's didn't do it anymore, so let's get Damon.
- 55:57[SPEAKER_03]: No, Damon's getting lost.
- 55:59[SPEAKER_03]: That's funny.
- 56:02[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think about that, but that's really funny.
- 56:05[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think the Odyssey's going to be good.
- 56:07[SPEAKER_02]: Almost made my top five, not quite.
- 56:10[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, because my top five, number five is a little something like this.
- 56:15[SPEAKER_02]: That's how we box you.
- 56:19[SPEAKER_02]: Number five, I'm going to call it superhero healing.
- 56:22[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to heal myself.
- 56:23[SPEAKER_02]: I've begun reading favorite Marvin Gaye song.
- 56:25[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go to the superman help with that a little bit.
- 56:27[SPEAKER_02]: Superman helped a lot.
- 56:29[SPEAKER_02]: I've started reading the absolute comics from DC.
- 56:33[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to read the news, Spider-Man on Limited Run, just.
- 56:35[SPEAKER_02]: Comics are doing taking some risks that the movies would be way too afraid to take right now and it's it's actually interesting superhero stories that they're telling in the comics which is kind of how I first fell in love with all these characters anyway so it feels like going back to the roots and like
- 56:50[SPEAKER_02]: finding like, okay, the people that know these characters still are doing interesting things.
- 56:54[SPEAKER_02]: It's the money tied to the movie studios that's making bad versions of all of this.
- 56:59[SPEAKER_02]: It's Bob Eiger.
- 57:00[SPEAKER_02]: So the, Bob Eiger, Bob Eiger.
- 57:03[SPEAKER_02]: I'll call super girl like the main thing that I'm the most curious about, super hero wise in 2026, but yeah, super hero healing.
- 57:12[SPEAKER_02]: Number four, for me, is Survivor 50, of course, naturally.
- 57:16[SPEAKER_02]: Dawes, you have to, what are we doing here?
- 57:20[SPEAKER_02]: Just, it's gonna be, even if it's bad, it's gonna be great.
- 57:23[SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing about Survivor 50 is it's a guaranteed slam dunk.
- 57:26[SPEAKER_02]: And I hope they take that momentum and make the 50s better than the 40s.
- 57:29[SPEAKER_03]: That's, oh, the beast though, that I've never been so like, please don't please don't please don't.
- 57:34[SPEAKER_03]: When I saw that, the beast is gonna, whatever.
- 57:37[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Mr.
- 57:37[SPEAKER_02]: Beast, there's like a Billy Eilers thing and like a Mr.
- 57:40[SPEAKER_02]: Beast, Jimmy Fallon thing, whatever.
- 57:42[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, I'll ignore them.
- 57:44[SPEAKER_02]: I'll ignore them and it'll be fine.
- 57:46[SPEAKER_04]: That's fine.
- 57:46[SPEAKER_04]: Here's the deal.
- 57:47[SPEAKER_04]: I'm okay if that silliness is like pre-merge.
- 57:51[SPEAKER_04]: Like do do do do whatever stupid stuff you want to do pre-merge.
- 57:55[SPEAKER_04]: I'll let you have that time.
- 57:56[SPEAKER_04]: But once it happens, come on.
- 57:58[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be the whole season.
- 57:59[SPEAKER_02]: But what I'm hoping is that it's just
- 58:02[SPEAKER_02]: It's at least an opportunity to compete for these things and not just like Jimmy Falon, also coach the best.
- 58:07[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm also fine to have, I'm fine to have some more people come over to Survivor.
- 58:12[SPEAKER_03]: Because 50 really is, when you think about the production of it all, I'm like the business of it all.
- 58:16[SPEAKER_02]: That's why they're doing.
- 58:17[SPEAKER_02]: Try to make sure we can do 50 more.
- 58:19[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're trying to get more eyes on it.
- 58:20[SPEAKER_02]: That's okay.
- 58:21[SPEAKER_02]: Um, number three for me is a movie that I've been thinking about since I first found out that it was going to happen and I can't stop thinking about it, uh, which is coyote versus acme, a little forte lead, uh, like, framing Roger Rabbit style like animated real world like no way cross over movie about, uh, the, you haven't heard of the, uh, dude, that is the coyote, this is,
- 58:45[SPEAKER_02]: The coyote is suing Acme because of how many times their products have failed him and trying to catch the road run and we'll talk to you as the coyote.
- 58:52[SPEAKER_02]: No, will forte.
- 58:53[SPEAKER_02]: But leave is the lawyer or he's the representative of Acme.
- 58:57[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the two.
- 58:58[SPEAKER_02]: But it is, it is a described as a live action animated legal comedy film.
- 59:05[SPEAKER_02]: And it looks.
- 59:06[SPEAKER_02]: So fun.
- 59:07[SPEAKER_02]: And I really feel like I have a feeling that this will be a movie that I am like much level of infatuated with.
- 59:14[SPEAKER_04]: So this is it's the grand tradition of things like Looney Tunes back in action, the printed Fraser Looney Tunes movie.
- 59:21[SPEAKER_04]: It was shelved in 2023.
- 59:22[SPEAKER_04]: You saw that, right?
- 59:23[SPEAKER_04]: Like it's finally getting a release.
- 59:24[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's been done for a minute.
- 59:26[SPEAKER_02]: They finished it in 23 and Warner Bros. was like we're actually going to just can this and claim it as a tax write-off the way they did the the background movie with print and Fraser which is part of why I think it's going to be good is because anything that a big studio is like let's not release it probably means that it had some like heart and spirit you know yeah so I probably didn't want to release it but I'm pretty excited about that.
- 59:49[SPEAKER_02]: I keep thinking about it every time I see more information on it I get more excited.
- 59:52[SPEAKER_02]: I love that that's in your top five.
- 59:53[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty excited about that.
- 59:55[SPEAKER_02]: My goose is, my goose is cooked about that one.
- 59:58[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 59:59[SPEAKER_02]: Number two for me is 007 First Light.
- 1:00:02[SPEAKER_02]: It's the new James Bond game from IO Interactive who made the hitman games.
- 1:00:07[SPEAKER_02]: It just looks so cool.
- 1:00:09[SPEAKER_03]: Like gonna make you actually get a new console.
- 1:00:12[SPEAKER_03]: It's, it just looks, it looks awesome.
- 1:00:15[SPEAKER_02]: By your console early, so you can play clear obscure before this one comes out.
- 1:00:18[SPEAKER_02]: But man, it looks, it looks like it's going to be a blast.
- 1:00:22[SPEAKER_02]: And the all three hitman games are some fun.
- 1:00:26[SPEAKER_02]: And they're also so evocative of James Bond already that it feels like, okay, it's a natural evolution of.
- 1:00:33[SPEAKER_02]: what they're doing.
- 1:00:33[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm pretty excited for that number one easy don't have to think about it.
- 1:00:37[SPEAKER_02]: Red God what I believe is the final red rising book is coming out this summer.
- 1:00:43[SPEAKER_02]: I mean come on.
- 1:00:46[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
- 1:00:48[SPEAKER_02]: free home.
- 1:00:49[SPEAKER_02]: It's on asking.
- 1:00:50[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm hoping that we finally hear some news about a red rising television show, which Pierce Brown has been sort of sort of, sort of, come on for TV.
- 1:01:00[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
- 1:01:00[SPEAKER_02]: I guess most like long form stuff should be television.
- 1:01:04[SPEAKER_02]: I think if you let like Apple TV get their hands on it with like a severance or game of thrones level budget and just let them know ham, I think it's going to be.
- 1:01:13[SPEAKER_02]: this one I feel like could be live action there's a lot of books that I think need to be animated but they could do live action pretty well here I think they got to care about it but it could be it could be amazing please care and to end today's episode I'd like for each of us serename and one thing we are not
- 1:01:29[SPEAKER_02]: excited about that is releasing or coming out in, keep it light.
- 1:01:34[SPEAKER_02]: A, a, a, a, a, it's a funny show.
- 1:01:39[SPEAKER_02]: Keep it light.
- 1:01:41[SPEAKER_02]: Or it, yeah, okay, let's do that.
- 1:01:43[SPEAKER_02]: And for two chunks, I'm Jordan.
- 1:01:45[SPEAKER_02]: Can I be honest?
- 1:01:46[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:01:48[SPEAKER_02]: It's not that I'm not excited about it.
- 1:01:49[SPEAKER_02]: Because I am.
- 1:01:50[SPEAKER_02]: I have a feeling about the Odyssey that's making me nervous.
- 1:01:55[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's like a little director that's never really missed he's never he's never really missed he's only really made bangers
- 1:02:04[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe I think it's just a little bit of cynicism I've been trying to sort of deflate as much of that that comes up in me as I can, but I just, there's something about it's like so many a-listers and it feels so, it feels so, what's the word?
- 1:02:21[SPEAKER_02]: Is it anacronistic where it like, there's something about seeing Matt Damon, sure, in an Odyssey movie that is like,
- 1:02:31[SPEAKER_02]: not clicking into my brain.
- 1:02:34[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 1:02:34[SPEAKER_04]: It definitely looks like Matt Damon in a costume.
- 1:02:36[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 1:02:37[SPEAKER_04]: Does not look like Odysseus.
- 1:02:38[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 1:02:39[SPEAKER_02]: And that's fair.
- 1:02:40[SPEAKER_02]: I'm wondering if I'm wondering if maybe totally the movies a lot different than what I'm expecting for it to be and it's going to work really well.
- 1:02:45[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Christopher Nolan, who am I to doubt?
- 1:02:47[SPEAKER_04]: But right, I am expecting a way more Nolan tone than like a sword and sandals epic, which is what's interesting to me, which is like that doesn't feel like that fits with the Odyssey.
- 1:02:57[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm really, I'm going to just see it and be so excited about it.
- 1:03:00[SPEAKER_02]: And I hope it's good.
- 1:03:01[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't know, I can't shake this feeling about
- 1:03:04[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, something about this one feels weird to me, but I hope I'm wrong.
- 1:03:10[SPEAKER_04]: I'm Doge, uh, there's something in coming out this year that I could not be moved to care any less about.
- 1:03:18[SPEAKER_04]: And it's a little flick from a tiny independent studio.
- 1:03:21[SPEAKER_04]: It's starting some characters you've never heard of called the Mandalorian and Grogu.
- 1:03:26[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I saw that.
- 1:03:27[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, dude, that movie's coming out this year.
- 1:03:30[SPEAKER_04]: Why?
- 1:03:30[SPEAKER_04]: I can't.
- 1:03:31[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
- 1:03:32[SPEAKER_04]: I can't imagine that this is anything other than, and we haven't done a star war in a theater in a long time.
- 1:03:39[SPEAKER_04]: Can we just make a really short season for and call it a movie?
- 1:03:43[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:03:44[SPEAKER_04]: People come see a star war again, but man, I don't care about this.
- 1:03:48[SPEAKER_04]: Holy moly, I don't care about this.
- 1:03:50[SPEAKER_04]: Love you, Pedro.
- 1:03:51[SPEAKER_04]: But
- 1:03:52[SPEAKER_04]: Not your fault.
- 1:03:53[SPEAKER_04]: Pedro is not even in this dude.
- 1:03:54[SPEAKER_04]: Pedro goes to the blue spins 45 minutes, knocking out all his lines, the child, the child is strong in the force.
- 1:04:03[SPEAKER_04]: And then that's it.
- 1:04:04[SPEAKER_02]: That's his whole day.
- 1:04:05[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:04:05[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
- 1:04:06[SPEAKER_02]: That was actually kind of a good Pedro.
- 1:04:08[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, I have lots of lots of skills.
- 1:04:11[SPEAKER_04]: What'd it go, man?
- 1:04:12[SPEAKER_04]: You guys just don't even ask about him ever.
- 1:04:14[SPEAKER_04]: You should be beat people.
- 1:04:15[SPEAKER_04]: It's Pedro.
- 1:04:15[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I can't.
- 1:04:16[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
- 1:04:17[SPEAKER_03]: We can't really win.
- 1:04:17[SPEAKER_03]: Pedro, sorry about that.
- 1:04:19[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Carter and man, I...
- 1:04:24[SPEAKER_03]: It's like the bug's life ants of it all.
- 1:04:27[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's like the this movie comes out and then the one after it you're like, dang, I don't know if I would have.
- 1:04:32[SPEAKER_03]: They all get into that.
- 1:04:34[SPEAKER_03]: If this one came first, yeah, the alien.
- 1:04:37[SPEAKER_03]: So Luke Besson, who is like, he did fifth element, right?
- 1:04:41[SPEAKER_04]: One of my, you favorite movie.
- 1:04:43[SPEAKER_03]: Leon, Leon, the professional.
- 1:04:45[SPEAKER_03]: He did good things in the late 90s and hasn't really done much sense except a couple of writing.
- 1:04:50[SPEAKER_03]: bits and bobbles.
- 1:04:50[SPEAKER_03]: He did a Dracula movie that's coming out.
- 1:04:53[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I love vampires.
- 1:04:54[SPEAKER_03]: And I've been so excited.
- 1:04:57[SPEAKER_03]: We are in our vampire era right now as a podcast, but I can't even with Caleb Landry Jones is Dracula.
- 1:05:06[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:05:06[SPEAKER_02]: He looks crazy.
- 1:05:07[SPEAKER_02]: He looks crazy.
- 1:05:07[SPEAKER_02]: Caleb Landry Jones.
- 1:05:08[SPEAKER_03]: Crystal vaults is a priest, a big character in here who is essentially like the
- 1:05:14[SPEAKER_03]: But it is very Bram Stoker and we're doing things that look very much like Copaless Bram Stoker's Dracula and I just like there's things about this that should feel perfect and I should be really excited but I'm not and I think it's been a lot to have it all I think it's been a lot to have it all that I'm like oh shoot man don't do this I wish I wish whoever that was contractually
- 1:05:38[SPEAKER_03]: that held you a couple of years for, I wish they would have just bit the bullet so this could have come out first.
- 1:05:43[SPEAKER_03]: It's probably better for you.
- 1:05:44[SPEAKER_02]: Almost would have been better if it came out right at the same time as just like being the same to us.
- 1:05:49[SPEAKER_02]: At least then it's a conversation quietly.
- 1:05:51[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, oh, okay, yeah.
- 1:05:52[SPEAKER_03]: But, man, I want to be more pumped for it, but I'm not.
- 1:05:57[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe it's a Landry Jones in the screenshots of this movie does look like if Pete Davidson was Willem Dafoe with the particular makeup they've got on it.
- 1:06:08[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's, it's different, man.
- 1:06:13[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to have to let that up real quick.
- 1:06:15[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
- 1:06:18[SPEAKER_03]: Because it is the same story because no sort of thing is just doing the classic Dracula.
- 1:06:22[SPEAKER_03]: So it's the same story beats and it's just not going to be.
- 1:06:25[SPEAKER_03]: And then you're either going to be compared to that or copalist Dracula.
- 1:06:31[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's tough.
- 1:06:32[SPEAKER_02]: That's really tough.
- 1:06:33[SPEAKER_02]: And it does sort of feel like it's doing a lot of the same visual things that couple of Dracula did, even down to the like, I wouldn't even want choice.
- 1:06:41[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't even want to be close.
- 1:06:43[SPEAKER_02]: No.
- 1:06:43[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 1:06:44[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why you invite that comparison.
- 1:06:46[SPEAKER_02]: No, that feels like a mistake.
- 1:06:48[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm the favorite, sir.
- 1:06:50[SPEAKER_02]: It does kind of look like that.
- 1:06:52[SPEAKER_03]: You know that Jones sold out, too.
- 1:06:54[SPEAKER_03]: You know, he's going to be so ridiculous and fun.
- 1:06:56[SPEAKER_03]: But if it was another time, if it was another time, if it was another time,
- 1:07:02[SPEAKER_02]: Man, well now that we ended on a bummer, we hope that you check out the things we loved in 2025 and get excited with us about the things we're looking forward to in 2026.
- 1:07:10[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no commitments.
- 1:07:14[SPEAKER_02]: This is the year that our main goal is to kick Joe Rogan's ass.
- 1:07:16[SPEAKER_02]: So we're not gonna commit to anything from it.
- 1:07:18[SPEAKER_02]: We might be talking about wake-up dead man next week because it's a movie we're all pretty excited about.
- 1:07:22[SPEAKER_02]: So tune in and find out if we talk about that or if we come up with some other random stuff to talk about.
- 1:07:27[SPEAKER_02]: Mm.
- 1:07:27[SPEAKER_02]: And you never know.
- 1:07:29[SPEAKER_02]: Look out, Joe Rogan, we hate you, Joe Rogan, love you, love you, long time listeners, in short time listeners, and new listeners, and what if Joe Rogan, this is this episode, then what?
- 1:07:40[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, except for you, Joe Rogan.
- 1:07:42[SPEAKER_02]: I'll kill.
- 1:07:43[SPEAKER_02]: No, we love we love everybody except Joe Rogan.
- 1:07:50[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, out, nope.