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Does Star Citizen have enough animals? · Open Comms Radio | A Star Citizen call-in show

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welcome. Let's see.
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We'll come on Bienvenidos, welcome back or welcome the
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first time to opening cons radio.
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I'm your host this evening, Duke.
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Later the second joined with my Co host Cosmic Hobo Cosmic say
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hi. Hi.
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All right, so our esteemed colleague Jar Jar Jabroni is
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still on vacation at the moment, so we're going to do our best to
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keep you all entertained and keep this show on track as best
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as it ever does while he's gone. Hold on vacation.
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Jar Jar is the sitting senator for the planet of Naboo, the
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Senate. The Imperial Senate is recessed
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right now as the ISB is shut down over, I don't know, some
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protests or something against, I don't know, a genocide, I don't
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know. But they're shut down.
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They're negligent in their duty. And he's off a home at Naboo or
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something with his fish people, I don't know.
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OK, I I was unaware. I thought he was on vacation
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eating dooner kebab, but I I stand corrected.
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Thank you for that. Yeah, but actually this.
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The Empire stands should be. Open.
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They should be open. Of a a comment that I just
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recently saw on one of our other videos.
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The comment was by Spicy SCO Seven, who said, I've listened
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to a handful of these shows now and I have a question.
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Is this actually a call in show or is it some kind of campy skit
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show? It feels like the same people
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every week doing characters and shit.
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First off, yeah, it is a call in show.
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You can join our discord at any time It's down below.
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I'm I'm you can't see what I'm pointing like you Scroll down
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We once had a bunch of kids join and brigade us.
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So anyone, anyone can join. You're welcome to join the
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Discord, engage in the conversation.
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We'll call you up onto the couch.
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If you're already on this couch, you get a scoot over and make
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some room for the newbies. But yeah, every Wednesday night
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at 9:00 PM Eastern Time, this is the number one Star Citizen call
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in show that takes place on Wednesday nights at 9:00 PM and
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is hosted by Jar Jar Jabroni and and myself and Cobo.
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I haven't actually checked the numbers on that, but I believe.
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I think that's safe to say. Literally true.
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I think that's true. I think that's 100% true.
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So usually what we do here is we we have a question or a a topic
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of the evening, you know, just to get the juices flowing, get
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people thinking, get people talking.
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And we had a question this evening.
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Hobo do you remember what our question?
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Was Does Star Citizen have enough animals?
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Do they? Does Star Citizen have enough
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animals? Well, what do you think, hobo?
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What's your first thought on that?
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No, not not not yet that there. There's plenty they they've
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shown off like the space whales everyone wants.
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We get freaking plushes of the space whales but come on, give
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us the actual space whales. Like they introduced paws to
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protect animals. Shit, what's the It's the
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animal. It's the animal protection.
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You're like an animal protection thing in in the game.
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I didn't even know that. Yeah, Paws.
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Paws protect all wildlife. That's preserve all wildlife.
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Preserve all wildlife. Yeah, preserve all wildlife, I
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said. I had to look that up.
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Interesting. OK.
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Yeah, and, and the space whales are perfect for them because you
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got to protect the space whales. Come on.
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So you'd like to see how you just to stop teasing your whale?
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Stop teasing my whale. Get my whale in.
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Stop teasing the whale. Get the whale in there.
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And all the other animals and the.
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Other ones. Well, we're going to we're going
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to talk about some animals. We're going to talk about some
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animal gameplay. Just some general animal
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nonsense, more than likely. But to get us started with some
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nonsense, why don't we bring up our first caller here?
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And I think we said our first caller was was the blue guy.
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Unfortunately, right? Yeah.
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The alien. OK, You know him, you love him.
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Lord Anubis, come on up here. Well, apparently people don't
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love me because apparently I call in too much and I should
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really stop. No, that's not why.
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It's because you're an alien. Well see, it's you're.
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An alien. Ouch, I guess Alien is all about
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perspective. Yes.
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We've all learned something tonight.
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We have, we've had our, our, our learning lesson.
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Oh, we've got to get to pitch quite a way.
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Right. Oh no, we'll do that.
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We'll do that. OK.
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OK. A question.
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Do you want to get into? It first, but to answer that
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previous question, yes, this is a call in show, but we have like
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4 people listening. So do you want to change it?
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Just fucking call in like seriously like we'd be happy to
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have you. I just do because like, these
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are great. Friends, we've had lots of
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listeners a few times and. Lots of calls.
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We have actually had quite a lot of callers, admittedly.
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Also check us out on YouTube, we got some great shorts on there.
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Good for a giggle. And and yeah, so if Anubis, if
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you're done insulting the show, we do have a question for this.
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Well, no 'cause you see the the intro.
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It's fantastic, it's beyond it. Love it.
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Thank you for your feedback. Mm hmm.
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Anyways, are there? Are there?
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Yeah, there's no good notes in it.
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I'll I'll say that anyways. All right, so today's question
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are, are there enough animals in Star Citizen?
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No. What are we missing?
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All right. Thanks for thanks for coming up.
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Yeah. Thanks.
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Bye. Where to go?
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From there, you know, I feel like every, I feel like every
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single episode, there's at least one one caller who does the, the
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single word response and then we're like, OK, all.
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Right. Cool.
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Well, I mean. That was that was what you
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think? So are there enough animals?
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No. Could there be more animals?
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Yes. Are they planning on more
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animals? Yes.
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Mm hmm. I'm not exactly sure where to.
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But are there enough animals for you at the moment in the game?
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So I mean, we don't have pets yet.
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That's true. We need pets.
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I want my space cap. Is that something that's
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actually going to happen? I've heard it was in the
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Kickstarter. Oh yeah.
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OK. What do you envision doing with
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this pet or pets? Like fucking magical adventures
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and shit. We're.
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We're going to like, run through the forest and encounter like a
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giant dog ferret dragon thing. And then, you know, like things
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are going to go bad and then there's like a tar pit and then
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and then I lose my pet. I think you've had a lot of slam
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tonight, have you? Haven't?
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And excuse me Sir, have you had any slam this evening?
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No I have not. I've only drank like 4 cruise
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lux so oh. That doesn't count.
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So that's one whole cruise lux of SLAM basically.
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That that's a lot of SLAM, actually.
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Yeah. So to answer that, yes, tons of
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SLAM. Good.
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OK, so you're going to drag your pet through that through the
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woods. If I got this straight, you're
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gonna drag it through the woods, have it in contact with some
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sort of dragon, and then you're going to drag it into the pit of
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despair where it's going to die. Drag it into the pit.
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No, I'm not going to drag it anywhere.
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It could walk OK. You know, it's, it's, it's
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doesn't have a choice 'cause it's, it's an MMO pet.
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But but yeah. And then we're also going to go
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on adventures where we, you know, like, like, oh, I want,
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I'm going to have pet Hornet. It would be pretty cool.
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Follow me around the space station, You know, like all the
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way through, like. Full size.
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Mates. Yeah, yeah, just full on Hornet,
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you know, F7A2. Just my my brain with the doors.
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A little bug. At first I I wasn't even
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thinking about the spaceship. I I was to be fair I was
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thinking of the bug too but the way he was describing I'm like
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oh he means the full size torn and then I'm questioning how
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does it fit through the doors? Well, it it's actually see a
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Hornet is based off of a an actual Hornet that lives on the
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Bannu home world, which happens to be equipped with missiles and
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and lasers. You know, there's been enough
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accusations of hacking directed in our direction lately.
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I don't think we need to make that worse by having Hornets
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flying around your head. Can you imagine space stations?
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I mean, to have one of those followed him, he'll have it land
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in the weirdest spots. Right.
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I think we could see that sort of thing with hackers someday.
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I I don't know, I think we should have a whole episode just
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on, on hacking and hackers. But at the same time, maybe that
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would bring too much attention to.
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To our hacking. Facilities.
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Oh, we, we, we don't want, we don't want attention to to the
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show or anything like that. That would be bad.
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No, that would be bad. So he was.
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What about the animals in game currently?
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What what's what's your interaction with them been like?
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I once like shot a couple in, in, in, in the facility and I
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guess I haunted a couple once. I mean, they're basically either
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obstacles or resources. There is no wildlife at the
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moment. And that that's that's
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supposedly going to change eventually, just like
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everything. But I mean, they probably will.
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It's not too hard to do that. They just have to create, create
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like migration patterns and I don't know, physicalize for
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something like that. You know, I know it's all
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coming. So I'm not exactly, I'm not, I'm
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not, I'm not exactly worried about it right now.
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I mean, it really doesn't affect too much.
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And we got each other to to shoot at and yell at and scream
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and global, you know, so it's no big deal.
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Global is its own form of PvP. Yes, that is the ultimate most
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refined PvP for the distinguished gentlemen.
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So you said that they they aren't wildlife, they're just
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obstacles or resources. At the moment, yeah.
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So what makes the change? When would they become wildlife
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in your opinion? When they actually like roam
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around and it's not something where they're just spawned in as
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as just a group just to be there for a mission.
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There has to be animals that you don't gather resources from.
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You know that they're just out there and they just do stuff
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you. Know no with no financial gain
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attached to it. Damn.
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Yes, yes, not everything is exploitable.
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Wow, my mind is blown. You know, maybe some animals
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that you know, just follow patterns that that they have
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their own little world. Just like how we have MPCS, they
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have animals that just do their own shit.
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I mean, MPCS don't do shit and got rid of ships that actually
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did stuff on their own. But that would be similar to
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what we'd be talking about is, you know, ships that just kind
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of just appear and do stuff and, you know, you want animals to do
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that, but. You want animals that will cower
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randomly, and you want spaceships that will migrate
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across the surface of a planet. Is that correct?
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He posing copion that go into quantum yes.
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You know, Chris probably sat down one day and was like, I
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want all these animals to have a full life cycle from birth to
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adulthood to an elderly state, and then they die and they go
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back into the earth and then cycle starts anew again.
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They physicalize their bones. Yeah, they physicalize the
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bones. They've got eggs that they hatch
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from. You can watch them come out of
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the eggs and like struggle with their legs like a newborn lamb.
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I 100% support this. I think this sounds like an
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amazing game. And they've got.
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Predators. Jurassic Park thing.
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Yeah, and a full ecosystem like come on.
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This is also my my favorite Christian personation ever.
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I like how the region changes as you go on through the sentence.
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Well, you know, he travels a lot.
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He. Just picks up accents as he
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goes. Yeah, as the as the plane is
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going over, you know, time zones, it changes the accent.
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That's how that works, right? That's how that works.
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Well, let's thank you. Anyways.
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Let's let's open the couch up a little bit here.
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I want you to scooch down and let's get our next caller up
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here and see what he has to say about tonight's question.
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Pluto Productions, what are you doing tonight?
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I'm doing all right. Had a bunch of blue stuff in the
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bathroom. I don't know what that's all
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about. I'm sorry, I'm sorry someone,
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someone never taught him to flush Pluto.
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Our question this evening Are there enough animals in Star
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Citizen or? Obviously not.
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OK. Cool.
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Great. Another one for the folks,
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folks. Why?
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Why is that obvious? Definitely need new animals.
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Well y'all y'all have already gone over this.
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We need friends, we need ambiance and also some enemies.
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So you want more ocopians? Got it.
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Not particularly. The idea of friends scares me.
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Do you have commitment issues? No, quite the opposite.
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Like I I love my fluffy little friends and I know how human
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beings who play video games are. So like what you know, is my
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fluffy buddy immortal or is is some griefernet dude going to
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roll up and and put a hole in my fluffy buddy's head?
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And you know the answer to that already.
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I don't let me just kid them with the mud.
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I know we are. Yeah.
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It would be cool to ride into battle with 50 tamed Copians
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though, you cannot deny that. You know, yeah, that would be
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pretty cool. But now we're getting to like,
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like Ark Survival Evolved, you know, running around with an
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army of tamed dodos, which is definitely something that I've
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done in that game. How'd that go out?
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It goes pretty well actually, just a lot of a lot of little
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little birds pecking away. 100 wild Wicklows.
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Yeah, maybe she that someone will definitely drop a bomb on
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you if you're running along with that.
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Are you are you familiar Pluto with the the Zdifopod?
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Can't believe I am. I am familiar with the micro
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tech Yeti. Here, I pulled him up on the
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stream we don't have. Pictures.
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Those are flat. I also have been made aware of
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flat cats. Oh yeah, I fucking want a flat
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cat so bad. Flat cats look very nice.
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That's high on my list. Flat.
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Cats. They're cats, yeah, but flat.
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They're cats, but they're flat. Yes.
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I wouldn't share but probably they're not flat, they're just
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buff like very strong cat with weird back issues.
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Interesting. OK, that is not a flat cat.
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That is a. That is a man.
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With a black dude, Dang. It so interesting thing about
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Black Cats is they're from Bradbury.
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You know that from the Chronicles of Mars series.
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Basically they, they are little pets that were like basically
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hairy, you know, like just pillows and they've heard when
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you pet them. Nothing to do with tribbles at
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all. OK.
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I believe the story with the story with flat cats go as they
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brought some cats to this terraformed world that had extra
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gravity to them. The cats being unable to walk
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simply just became flatter as they evolved into existence on
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this new world. And now we have flat cats.
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Natural Selection. OK bone crushing gravity.
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I feel like we're heading towards chair dogs.
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Chair dog. Anyone familiar with chair dogs?
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Is it like suck dog? It's a a thing out of the Dune
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universe where they are, you know, genetically modified bred
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dogs that are shaped like chairs and you sit in it and it likes
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it. Wait, so it's a dog and it's
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also bread, and then it's a chair too?
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No, no bread as in as in like when you don't, when you don't
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use protection on your bis, what's protection?
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OK. This sounds more like this
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sounds more like a mimic. It's just a chair that eats you
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on command. How much cocaine was Frank
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Herbert doing in the 80s or 60s? Sorry.
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I imagine quite a the spice must flow.
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Yeah, he loved cocaine and the light of Allah.
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That's like his two things. When?
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Beef swelling. Don't forget about beef
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swelling. Yeah.
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And and then like, didn't get along with who was it?
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Oh my God, who was the other main author around that time?
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That was really big. Heinlein.
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Orson Scott Card. No, I'll think of it later.
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Sorry about that. Now it's going to bug me, but I
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know he had a big beef with someone else.
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Let's. See.
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Herbert Beefin. Beefin.
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Beef. Lots of beef.
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Author thank Herbert. Apparently he wasn't, I guess, a
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huge fan of George Lucas. Well, I want to go back to the
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Zyfopod if I may, because Hobo and I were talking about this
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earlier because I asked him, do you remember the flying crabs?
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This is I'm going to say that is not a flying crab.
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That's just the brain enemy from Balter's Gate 3, yes.
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Also true, but back in 2013 there were videos of these
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things and we were told that they were going to be all over
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the surface of Hurston. You know, we have videos of the
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the pyro crabs. There are.
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Yeah. What it was when Jax got stuck
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in pyro, he had to fix a mole and the mole had crabs.
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So they've got rigging and art and everything done to them.
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There's not game. They just haven't figured out a
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way to exploit them yet. There it is, floating crab, I
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said. There were whole videos on it.
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They were floating around and just one of those things that
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Chris talks about said it's coming soon, and then it
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disappeared into the ether. Is its scientific name Zyfopod
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Biebelbrox? No, I don't think so.
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That's. According to this link I was
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sent, it's common name is the blind Oni up.
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Until now the character subscribe to only.
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Grabs. OK, let's move down the couch
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and let's bring up our next caller, a frequent guest on the
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show. You know him.
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Many of you love him, but I mean, not all of you.
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I enjoy his hamburgers. Wicket, come on up here.
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Did we leave the door locked? Come on up.
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Litizens long time occasional caller and just want to point
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out Mr. Tim for PC also agrees the current intro to the show
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for season 2 is garbage. Unsolicited.
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It was unsolicited. Just just want to add that to
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the to the to the data pile of and consent to change the
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current theme back to the old theme.
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Thank you. Yep.
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There's the brains. So oh.
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You found the video? Yeah, Yeah, there they are, the
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flying crabs. Your question about is how do we
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have enough animals? Obviously no, we have what, 4
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animals? Quasi grazes Copian, Maruk or
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Maruk however you pronounce it. And then the worm variations,
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right? It's the only thing we.
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Have they have rats? Well, rats aren't running
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around, they're just dead on a stick.
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I don't know if you. Call them running around,
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there's moving one. They're they're sea nuts.
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Pyro. Who?
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Also the single moving crab, The Cave beetles.
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We got those cave beetles or. You know, Oh yeah, the Roly Poly
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cave critters. Roly Poly bugs.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about those things.
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And the tortoise I've. Never seen that one.
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They're domesticated though. That's true.
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Any more regular like creatures the you know?
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I mean, this opens up a lot of, you know, potential gameplay.
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You know, imagine, you know, they're talk.
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They've already in the past, they've talked about farming.
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Well, what about animal husbandry, domesticating, You
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know, could you have a herd of quasi grazers and make some kind
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of space juice that they produce that is like highly valued, I
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don't know, milk in the quasi graze or or.
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Whatever the big eggs, we're going to take the eggs from
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their from their belly. Right.
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But I mean, maybe that's. Why don't they have what?
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Chickens. Space chickens.
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We need star chickens. Space chickens.
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Oh I see what you're saying. I knew is you want to know why?
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Why don't we have more earth based animals out in the verse
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as well? Yeah.
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I think the, I mean, I think the obvious reason for that is that
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it's easier to make a convincing alien species that we've never
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seen than it is to create, you know, a very convincing one that
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people are familiar with. But in lore, I don't think they,
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I don't know, I don't think there's a good excuse.
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Space Chickens. 900 years in the future.
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I think I think flora and fauna opens up a lot of could open up
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a lot of lore and gameplay aspects to to planetary
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environments. You know, imagine like locals,
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they maybe they don't have the technology to to to move stuff
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around like the UE people and the Pyro people do.
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And they have to, you know, hook a wagon to one of these beasts
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of burden and there could be raids on those guys or who
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knows? You know, imagine when they put
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the space wheels and you have this giant hunting party, but
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you know, you might have to kill or harvest 20 space whales
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before you get that one thing that's inside the perfect space
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whale and that's highly valued that you can either sell on the
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market or its component and crafting or something like that.
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It's just like a bunch of gameplay opportunities that
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hopefully they'll exploit. Because in a lot of in a lot of
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Mmos that are more fantasy based or terrestrial based, and even
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in some sci-fi genres, they'll have things that where you have
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to interact with the floral flora and fauna of a planet and
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exploit that as a resource that might be used in in crafting or,
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or just to survive. Maybe it'd be awesome if they
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put all that kind of stuff into the game eventually.
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But right now, I mean, it's so limited, you know, the copions,
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I'd love to see the copions be way tougher to kill and more of
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a danger. I mean, yeah, if you're
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unsuspecting and if you're mobbed by them, you might get
27:46
killed by a pack of Copians. But for the most part, you just
27:49
mow them down with your your gun.
27:52
If they would be a little bit quicker or a little tougher,
27:56
more of a danger. Feel like a lot of their their
28:01
lack of danger is server related I feel at the moment.
28:04
That's maybe that's possible. Every time I want.
28:07
To they. Just kind of jump around me.
28:11
You know, obviously that's not what we have right now.
28:13
I'm just basically extrapolating as we move forward and get, you
28:17
know, closer to to the more of a polished game and what could be
28:23
because there's no sense in what we unless you want to talk about
28:28
what we don't have, which that'll be a 5 minute
28:32
conversation. But what we don't have, that'll
28:35
be like a five year conversation.
28:40
So you mentioned the the NPC spawning issue.
28:44
You must not have played during that.
28:48
There's nothing scarier than 23 Copian rounding the corner to
28:51
come kill you. Horrifying.
28:56
You've not been at Walmart on Black Friday.
28:59
Hey you. Sandel I have literally never
29:04
done that. And, and another thing I was
29:08
thinking about when I read the for the today's topic, which is
29:11
going to be somewhat controversial, but this is
29:14
something that happens in in almost all these different space
29:17
genres and space, these different space operas and
29:23
different lore, you know, lore based themes, you know,
29:28
eventually your hero class, your humans or whatever the class
29:33
that is, is, is the primary protagonist in any adventure in
29:37
space. Eventually encounter some
29:40
sentient or semi sentient lesser species.
29:44
And usually they end up enslaving them somehow or
29:49
putting them into a working class or or subspecies that is
29:53
like the almost like a beast of burden.
29:56
You know it's already going on. Yeah, it's the Tavar.
30:00
Yeah, how's good? That's a var end.
30:01
No, it isn't. That's.
30:04
Where they surrendered but. I mean, yes, that's, that's all
30:10
some based on some sort of lore, but we haven't seen it.
30:13
I'm just saying if if that's implemented, will we ever see
30:16
it? Do we want to see something like
30:18
that? You know, then you have this
30:20
moral dilemma that you have to choose what side of that
30:23
argument are you going to fall on?
30:25
You know, is this something you want to take part in or is this
30:27
something you want to actively prevent?
30:30
You know, these are all avenues that could be gamified and put
30:34
in into into our universe to make these moral decisions.
30:39
You know, where do you stand, you know, as a player?
30:42
Or are you role-playing the slave or are you role-playing
30:45
the the savior? You know what's which, which
30:49
route do you want to take? These are just open conundrums
30:52
that that are then presented to the player base that you have to
30:56
decide how you want to interact with it.
30:58
I'm just saying, is that something that's good?
30:59
Is that something that's intriguing or interesting?
31:02
I think it is. I don't think we're going to get
31:05
anything on to that level. Didn't.
31:09
You. Play a game where you sold
31:10
drugs. He didn't say we're selling, you
31:16
know, just mining and selling drugs.
31:18
He didn't say which side of the light he was going to roll on.
31:20
He just said it would be interesting to have the
31:23
conundrum. But I mean, we like the other
31:26
night, I was like, all right, let me look around at the
31:28
animals and I was hunting the what was it?
31:32
The, the Farouk, the Farouk. And that just kind of felt
31:36
dirty. I mean, they just kind of sit
31:39
there or, or they're flying above you and you just shoot
31:42
them and they follow the ground and, and that's that that that
31:47
was to be. Like from time to time.
31:50
That's what I was like. I can't be a hunter.
31:52
This is this is just not right. That's too cruel.
31:56
Right. And it like there's the.
31:57
Person that dropped a bomb on a on a pack of Copians.
32:02
Well, yeah. I mean, I've seen someone true.
32:10
Yeah, that's an. Invasive species.
32:14
And I've seen someone chase a fugitive at a clutcher with an
32:17
A2, so you know. Also an invasive species.
32:22
What's your point, Wicked? That brings me to like the storm
32:25
wall because we were talking, you know, some animals will be
32:29
harvested. The storm wall, I think they've
32:32
talked about being able to land on it and harvest.
32:37
Is that the space whale? Ornacles.
32:39
Yeah, Space whale. I just always called a space
32:42
whale. I think everyone has I had to I
32:45
had to look up the name. But you know, that could be one
32:50
of those moral considerations, right, Where you could kill the
32:52
space whale and get, you know, it's, it's whatever, or you
32:57
could just land on it and and scrape off some, some space
33:00
barnacles and get we. Could totally see Gray selling a
33:04
specialized ship to capture the whales and kill them.
33:09
Yeah, they're definitely not Gorma Ganders from Star Trek.
33:12
They're space whales. Generic.
33:14
Space whales. Totally different things.
33:15
How dare you? Isn't there like an almost
33:18
identical looking one in the Clone Wars?
33:20
Yeah. I think so, yeah.
33:23
The ones that can this game through hyperspace.
33:26
Yeah, but this game has all sorts of shit like that.
33:28
I mean, there's Terminus for, you know, I mean, come on, I
33:32
don't mind. I.
33:33
Don't mind. I don't.
33:35
I don't mind Star Citizen borrowing or repurposing lore
33:41
and different aspects of different franchises and IPS.
33:45
You know, I don't, I don't mind that at all.
33:47
I mean, there's, I think in, in a, in a larger universe, you,
33:52
you may definitely come across a lot of that stuff.
33:56
And, and as far as you know, some of this, these thematic
34:00
themes that I was talking about earlier that it that it may not
34:04
happen yet. It may not, but it would sure
34:06
would make things interesting. You know, where Star Citizen and
34:10
CIG have been trying to, you know, press this idea of being
34:15
different in a lot of ways and giving a lot of different
34:19
choices to the players. And these would be some dramatic
34:23
choices. You know, it would it, it could
34:26
thematically change the way we thought about things you do in
34:30
game and having this, you know, currently everything has this
34:34
moral ambiguity to it that you, you, you, you may or may not, it
34:39
may or may not matter to you in, in, in in your day-to-day real
34:43
life. But in the game, should it
34:46
matter or how does it matter? Or is that just a pipe dream of
34:50
people caring about what they do and how they treat each other?
34:54
Or is it just, you know, oh number go up good, I kill you,
34:58
you don't kill me. Good.
34:59
And that's that's the end of it. And if that's the case, it's
35:02
just going to be another shallow endeavor of blase Pew Pew.
35:07
And then, OK, we'll start it off and we're done.
35:13
How do you really effectively have a Zeno threat operate?
35:21
And, and, and it makes sense. I mean what you're saying
35:23
because, you know, I mean, are there enough animals?
35:26
Yes. Is there life?
35:28
I think is the question. You know, I mean, like, are
35:30
there enough animals? No, but is there enough life?
35:32
I think is the question right? Yeah, that's that's, that's a
35:36
good way to put it, you know, is what I want to have, besides
35:40
having just just another another MMO to play and something to to
35:47
play. I want to have some reason to
35:49
care about this game. Does that make any sense?
35:54
I want to have a reason to to want to be.
35:56
I thought I thought we were your reason to care.
35:59
Well, you're a entry you're you're like an entry to care
36:03
about things. But wow, why do I want to stay?
36:07
Well, I mean, it's, it's true most, most, most games.
36:10
I mean, if you play any game nowadays, especially if it's a
36:14
any kind of social aspect to a multiplayer, most of the time
36:18
the thing that keeps you coming back as the people you play
36:20
with, it's not the game. The game could be dog shit, but
36:25
if it fosters this community, you're more than likely to keep
36:30
trying and keep playing. But if there's no community
36:33
there to interact with, then you know it's just another single
36:35
player thing that you just shove to the side.
36:37
OK, what's the next the next flashing light I need to click
36:40
on? But you know, if you if you
36:43
start thinking about the game and the environment, this this
36:46
thing with this animals really got me thinking today about it.
36:49
I thought at first it was kind of a dumb question, but then I
36:51
started thinking about a little bit deeper and it started be
36:56
going on these little tangents, which, you know, maybe I'm just,
37:01
you know, spitballing too big here.
37:03
But it just started making me think about, you know, what do
37:06
you care about when you're playing these grandiose games
37:08
like Star Citizen? And then and no matter what,
37:11
it's going to be a just widespread grand game that we
37:14
all really will love more than likely.
37:18
I mean, we've put up with this much now already.
37:22
Probably everybody on this call will see you through to at some.
37:26
And I don't know if there will ever be an end.
37:29
Maybe not, but I just want to have a reason to care and
37:34
something that, you know, some of these moral choices, these
37:38
social choices, I think it's going to be the the, the little
37:42
linchpin that that makes people want to invest the time and keep
37:47
coming back. Yeah, not everybody, but you
37:51
know. And I think having some, some
37:54
real life, you know, like, like, like Anubis was saying, having
38:00
wildlife that actually feels real will help to give people a
38:04
reason to come back and just to make things feel more important.
38:08
You're like, obviously we've got worlds that are dead, you know,
38:12
and they're too hot and you're not going to find lots of things
38:15
living there. But like in Pyro, when with the
38:18
new, what you call it, when they fix up the planet there, what's
38:25
that word? What am I thinking of?
38:26
Terraform. Yeah, when they terraform Pyro
38:29
and and fill it with animals. My like one of my favorite games
38:33
for just walking around in the game, not even doing the other
38:37
activities, was always Red Dead Redemption 2.
38:41
And that was just because the wildlife was amazing.
38:47
You know, they were, they were living their lives, they were
38:49
hunting each other. They were dying, they were
38:51
eating everything that, you know, sleeping more, mourning
38:55
the death of their of their loved ones.
38:57
You could see all of it just by walking around in that game.
39:01
And it did just make everything else feel like more important,
39:08
because you knew that it was superimposed on this living,
39:11
breathing world behind it, if you know what I'm saying.
39:17
Not entirely sure if Nick's Nick's One would even have
39:20
animals because it was a dead world that simply just had
39:25
plants introduced to it and had its oxygen and atmosphere
39:28
adjusted till everything started working.
39:31
But life. Finds a way.
39:36
Life finds a way. Life does find a way, but does
39:38
life find a way in three months? When?
39:41
You have AC2 full of Copians, you just open up and let out.
39:44
Yeah. I mean, yeah, if they just did
39:46
that to facilitate, you know, kick starting life on Nick's
39:50
one, just dump a bunch of animals onto it, sure.
39:53
What's a better thing to throw on a planet than a bunch of
39:55
Copians? Like it's totally a smart thing
39:59
to do, but. I mean, they've already
40:01
established that's how, that's how the quasi great grazers got
40:04
where they are, right? Yeah, they were imported.
40:08
People just brought them over and that's, you know, that's.
40:12
What the and animals are part of a whole Biome, so like they
40:15
they're going to have to have some.
40:17
If you have a plant planet with 0 animals that will planet will
40:20
probably die, it's. Ecosystem needs.
40:25
Hobo. Animals.
40:26
Before we go further with this, I think this might be a good
40:28
sign to mention the giveaway. Yes, I I jar jar was very.
40:42
I sprained that on you. Very wanting us to do this last
40:45
week but we forgot. Can you do it?
40:48
I'm going to cough again. Sure, sure.
40:51
Hold on, Let me bring it up here again, hobo.
40:55
So we are having our first giveaway here on Open Comms
40:59
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41:07
Jar Jar has titled it. Not one, but two epic prizes
41:11
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Where else are we? Deezer.
41:36
Deezer. I don't even know what that is.
41:38
I'm a geezer, so I don't I don't know about Deezer.
41:40
It's like French Spotify. Of course it is.
41:45
Of course it is. You know, we were, we were gonna
41:47
do, we were gonna live stream at the bar Citizen in DC and we're
41:53
all excited. We got all this gear and Jar Jar
41:56
shows up with his wife's fucking French Apple laptop and that it
42:04
did not make things easy. That's all I'm saying.
42:06
The buttons didn't match. Things weren't right, but I was.
42:10
Holding you all up 'cause I. No.
42:13
I'm very confused as to why that didn't work out exactly, except
42:16
other than the Internet. We had we had many dongles for
42:20
the sound system. We did not have the one dongle
42:22
we needed. Of course, you never have the
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42:27
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42:29
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Cool, we we forgot to do this last time so we wanted to get
43:19
back at it. There are 10 entries and there's
43:22
13. Already. 22 hours left.
43:25
Oh, yeah, that's another good thing to mention, I suppose.
43:28
Ends on March 18th, which I think is a Wednesday.
43:35
I think we might have a special caller for that day as well.
43:38
Yeah, yeah. Not sure.
43:39
Yeah. Nothing to be said about that
43:41
yet. That's a secret, the two of us.
43:45
So, you know, we've been doing all this talking about animals
43:49
in the verse currently, and we have yet to address the giant
43:54
carnivorous worm in the room. The the Valicar the the loser
44:02
Valicar doesn't exist. Yeah, well, what do you mean
44:06
doesn't exist? I mean, the one, the one of the,
44:09
the ones in Pyr are just like, yeah, they're there, but you can
44:12
summon them. They're they're not an animal.
44:15
They're just like an animatronic thing, surely?
44:19
But aren't. Trapping sand pit forever.
44:21
Slowly dying of radiation. We we still haven't seen the big
44:24
one where you have to have a ship to kill it, right?
44:28
Right. They've talked about tweaking
44:30
like they're working on that, and they're tweaking it so that
44:33
it's gonna be able to actually travel underground over larger
44:37
distances. That's was supposed to be the
44:40
boss for Hathor. You're supposed to crack it.
44:44
Yeah, you're supposed to crack open the hole and outcomes the
44:48
Valicar. How would the I can see why they
44:53
cancelled it because after you killed the Valicar, his dead
44:55
body's in the hole. Yeah.
44:59
Or would I think? You would mind you would get the
45:01
resources from the the the dead worm instead of having to mine
45:04
the whole. I think it would be a bit of
45:06
both. Like you, you'd have to mine
45:08
under fire. I got you.
45:11
Yeah, I think what happens to plan what happens to the
45:15
irradiated Valicar after you kill it, Like how long it
45:18
slowly, it slowly sinks into the ground and disappears.
45:22
Typical stuff. OK, but it sinks into the
45:25
ground. It doesn't just bloop, right?
45:28
No. Ideally it first should probably
45:31
decompose, but you probably need instant sing for that, right?
45:36
I'm sure Chris wanted you to watch him just like slowly
45:40
degrade. Chris, I I don't want the
45:43
players to be able to leave. Nah, they don't stay there.
45:46
You want to sit and watch it die?
45:48
You did these? They have to wait for the skin
45:52
to decay so you can go in there and get his heart.
45:55
It's like 3030 in game years and then you can finally.
45:59
The the smaller words the bigger and it slowly eats it way in
46:05
front of you. It's doing the hand gestures
46:10
too. I can't see it.
46:13
Yeah, for those of you who don't know, Chris's accent changes
46:17
while he's travelling. So as he as he's travelling.
46:20
What can I? Say the accent changes, Yeah.
46:23
Jet setter. Yeah.
46:27
But what do we think about the large Valley car in game right
46:31
now? I mean, does it work?
46:34
Is it fun? Yeah, indeed.
46:38
You kind of just shoot at it till it dies.
46:41
It was scary at 1st and when they let it move it's very
46:44
scary, but they kind of rained in the moving.
46:48
Oh yeah, I remember that whenever it clipped into the
46:50
building and just laid down in the building, killed everybody.
46:54
Yeah. Something that big would
46:58
definitely, I mean a lot of buildings would not stand up
47:02
under that. Oh yeah, no, like in reality it
47:06
would just pretty much wreck the whole reality.
47:09
It's a giant fucking space worm if we apply any sort of logic to
47:15
it. One body slam on the building
47:17
and that building is gone. Do.
47:21
You think that's why they changed it?
47:25
No, they changed it because it's buggy as shit.
47:28
Yeah, it was just clipping through walls, right?
47:32
So they wanted to be able to move, but obviously it's if it's
47:35
breaking the physics of the game, that's not going to work.
47:39
Yeah, I think they did like a weekend's work on it to get it
47:43
to move. And we're like, oh, we're going
47:45
to need to spend a lot more time on this.
47:46
And that's what the recent passionates have shown is
47:48
they're they're working to make it actually move right.
47:53
Yeah, yeah, they want some underground move, it said.
47:57
Like large distances and then come back up.
48:01
That is terrifying though once it could move it was a lot more
48:05
scary than when it just sits and kind of spits at you, which is
48:08
'cause that spit is dangerous like that will fuck you up.
48:12
But if you know exactly where it's going to be the whole time
48:17
when it's spitting and you. It's boring.
48:20
It's boring. You know, it doesn't spit
48:23
anymore. I found out it stopped spitting.
48:27
No, it evolved this new attack where it slams its face into the
48:30
ground on top of you and kills you.
48:31
Yeah. But you're going to be close to
48:33
it for that. Well, yeah, it moves.
48:37
I didn't know it moved. I thought it died.
48:39
Turns out it just circumvented behind me and it slapped me in
48:41
the back of the head. Oh, the smaller worms or the
48:43
bigger worm? The big apex.
48:46
One OK, really. It it moved to the other side of
48:50
the facility, clipped through the facility and slammed its
48:52
head into the ground where we were shooting it at.
48:54
Oh, lately it. Hasn't been moving anymore.
48:57
Was that reason? Was that OK back when it was
49:01
cold? Because now it just stays in one
49:03
spot. At least they were able to
49:05
introduce an all new independent, you know, boss, you
49:11
know, creature that you have to fight that is totally not like
49:14
the Valicar, you know the Urimandi.
49:18
Yes, kind of different. I actually really enjoy fighting
49:22
the Romania. It's just, it's just a Vela car
49:26
that went down the lightning evolution path and.
49:30
Has a plant in. Water.
49:32
It decided to be a mage. It's like an easy.
49:39
That one's fun though, because it does move around.
49:44
I mean, it's got, it's got 2 spots to move around in or is it
49:47
3? There's three pools that can
49:49
move in I. Think it's like 5, but since
49:54
there's two it's always going to be like in one of the two.
49:59
Pretty much I. Don't think I've ever
50:04
successfully killed one. Every time we go down there we
50:06
kill it and then the door doesn't open and then we die.
50:10
It's ghost kills us. Yeah.
50:13
It it's kind of crazy how they do this because there are games
50:17
that do this beautifully. If you've ever played Pow World,
50:20
I mean like they make it a challenge, like when you fight
50:24
these things and they do it and it's fun and I don't understand
50:29
why they can't do it in this game.
50:33
Well, all we all we have access to is just FPS weapons.
50:37
Maybe you throw a grenade at it. It's just aim and shoot.
50:42
Well, that's also PAL world. It has guns.
50:44
That's fair, but you also have pals.
50:46
Yeah. Yeah, we don't have pals.
50:49
We need some pals. We don't have pals.
50:55
Goes and sends your pet copion to fight that you're Mondi.
50:59
It'll be fine, right? Well, that goes back to, you
51:04
know, wicked talk on morality. I mean, is it right to send
51:07
your, your pets to fight? You know, shouldn't our pets
51:10
have some free will? He's got insurance.
51:15
LTI Topians. Yeah.
51:19
LTI flag we've got. A pledge store near you?
51:23
Oh. We can.
51:24
We can reprint humans. Yeah, they're.
51:29
Going to have to varying degrees and success.
51:33
Yeah, we'll have pet printing. We'll have we'll have Bildam
51:37
Morty. First there will be the the the
51:41
cop, the Copian, or whatever animal on the pledge store.
51:44
Then you have to have the pledge store, the special collar, the
51:49
special leash, or the harness. The scans, yeah.
51:54
You need you need the DNA blueprint so you can use them
51:57
you want to. Be able to breed them with your
51:59
friends. You want to have the right
52:00
breeding chamber. That's what I'm always saying.
52:06
There's gonna be like a Chihuahua.
52:07
One should be like a little tiny teacup.
52:09
OK, I would. Probably on one teacup copion.
52:13
Yeah, but he's highly venomous. Just like a real.
52:16
Chihuahua, yes. Do we think CIG is going to
52:24
monetize pets? Oh hell yeah.
52:26
Absolutely. Is it going to be just behind
52:30
money? No.
52:35
I can see them, they give us maybe 5-5 normal flat cats for
52:40
the game and then there's flat 5 exclusive one that have weird
52:44
skins and patterns and colors on them on the pledge storm.
52:48
And. It's on.
52:49
All of them. The thing is that is a pet just
52:54
going to be another, another version of bling, something that
52:58
follows you around in the space station.
52:59
So everybody says, oh, look at that dude, he's got the monocle
53:02
kitten. Yeah, I want I.
53:04
Want to leave my backpack Poking his head out I.
53:09
Just have like. Everyone around.
53:11
Me pets. I never kept pets.
53:16
We need, like, little windows in our backpack so that, you know,
53:19
he can stay in there and be airtight and safe, but still
53:23
look out. Yeah.
53:25
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Def Stranding Copian.
53:31
Dude Eva suits for your for your Copian so it can like.
53:35
Work. Ships with you.
53:37
How is it going to bite anyone? Well, it's it's got mechanical
53:43
jaws on. It give it a gun.
53:44
Got it. Yeah, gun turrets for your pets.
53:49
Freaking lasers. Freaking lasers attached to
53:52
their heads. I have no problem with that, but
53:55
you have to train them and while you're training it could kill
53:59
you accidentally. Or intentionally, if it comes
54:03
across a wild copion, the wild copion convinces it to revolt
54:07
against you. Totally logical.
54:12
And now you have a wild copion that is armored, has a laser on
54:15
its head, and can breathe in space.
54:18
Terrifying. Yeah, I would assume they have
54:22
like a pokey ball. So like once you capture it once
54:26
then it's whatever alters in it's brain and it and it's like
54:29
obeys you. I think Nintendo's lawyers might
54:34
have something to say about that.
54:36
They already did about the previous product you mentioned.
54:41
Pow world? Yeah, Nintendo.
54:46
Powell World when you lost. Oh well, if we're not going to
54:50
ever get copyright struck for anything else, it's, it's our,
54:53
it's, it's our time. We're getting there.
54:55
That's it. We we finally made it.
54:57
We're getting. We did it, folks.
54:59
We're getting cease and desist orders from Nintendo's lawyers.
55:03
It's the highest praise. Where this doesn't exist.
55:07
Why does success hurt so much? Well, you know, once you reach,
55:13
you know, 14 listeners, you know, things get a little out of
55:17
hand. We're at 4 right now.
55:20
I think that's when Star Citizen will be truly finished is when
55:24
you can you can actually hire lawyers in game to sue other
55:28
orgs. We have an internal legal
55:31
system. There's going to be little
55:33
courtrooms on every station, yeah.
55:37
Hey, hey, hey, official court of Everest Harbor.
55:43
So is it, we're sorry, are we, are we following the British
55:45
judicial system? With the wig wigs.
55:47
With the white wigs. Right, yeah, 900 years in the
55:50
future and they're. Wearing still wigs, damn it.
55:54
But they're like colored wigs now.
55:56
Oh. OK, you know, because I lost.
55:58
It's it's, it's a new future. So you.
56:00
Know yeah, they're progressive in the future.
56:02
Yeah, you got like a purple one. That's how you show
56:05
progressivism, right as. Hair.
56:07
They're wearing a blue wig. You know you're in trouble.
56:12
You could have them made out of a metal attached to their
56:14
helmets so they can see them through the spacesuit.
56:19
Oh, there you go. That's how you know you come
56:22
across a boss in space. They, they, they got the big
56:25
helmet. The bigger the helmet, the
56:28
bigger the boss. Those are just facts.
56:34
Yeah, well, folks, we are coming to the end of our show this
56:39
evening, as we always do. We're going to end it by asking
56:45
some questions in reverse order. So that means the last one to
56:50
come up on the couch tonight, which was Wicket.
56:53
Wicket. Do you have anything you'd like
56:55
to say to Chris Roberts, the people at CIG, or the folks on
56:59
the Internet, excluding Sandy Roberts?
57:02
Thank you for adding that. Now he's got nothing to say if
57:07
you can't talk to Sandy, that's it.
57:09
He won't talk. Nothing.
57:14
Nothing wicked. No.
57:17
Oh, space slavery, yes. OK.
57:22
What space slavery? OK, Pluto, you have anything
57:29
you'd like to say to Chris Roberts, the folks at CIG, or
57:31
the people on the Internet? I would love for the flat cats
57:35
to come. Need some flat cats.
57:37
Oh. My God I want a flat cat so bad.
57:41
What are you gonna do with these Black Cats?
57:43
They're gonna live in the apartment and be safe.
57:45
You're. Gonna get the you're gonna get
57:48
the skin packs. You got the, you got the orange
57:50
tabby. You got, you got this the, the,
57:53
the Siamese you, you got the tuxy.
57:57
Hell. Yeah, you know, I mean like,
58:00
like seriously, like I would totally get one.
58:03
Like like a. Get everything on the list.
58:07
Like there's so many breeds they can get just the domestic
58:10
shorthair, but I guess it's like intergalactic shorthair now.
58:13
Like come on, it'll. Be $5 each or $12.00 for the
58:17
pack of three. My wallet would come right out.
58:22
Tony the Tiger. Yeah, Lord Anubis, other other
58:28
than your your special cat skin packs, anything you'd like to
58:33
say to Chris Roberts, the people at CIG or the folks on the
58:37
Internet? Well, since you excluded the one
58:41
thing I, I am, I am finally excited about in this game for
58:46
the first time in, well, probably about 3 weeks.
58:52
Well, let's, let's see what else I can say.
58:56
I mean, come on. You.
58:58
Wouldn't walk around our giant cat.
59:00
That's your cat like. Yes, 1000 times yes.
59:07
Like, come on. And then my cat would like jump
59:10
up, I'd show her the screen and she'd be like, oh shit, it's us.
59:15
Representation. Representation matters.
59:20
See. See.
59:21
See my cat wants to be kicking ass too in game and like hey
59:26
look I kicked those copion's ass.
59:28
Like there you go that it's the best idea ever and if Sig
59:32
doesn't do it then they have failed as a company and I will
59:36
unsubscribe and ask for a refund.
59:39
Combat flat cats. Combat flat cats.
59:44
Yep, hobo. So that's my statement.
59:48
As the as a Co host, is there anything you'd like to say to
59:52
Chris Roberts, CIG or the people on the Internet?
59:55
Let's see those Nyx planets. Yeah.
1:00:01
Yeah, you know, somebody found one.
1:00:05
I think a few people have accidentally jumped to them.
1:00:08
Really. Yeah, They'll stop halfway in
1:00:10
Quantum just like they. I don't think you can land on
1:00:13
them. But that's physically there,
1:00:15
visually there. I've seen the records.
1:00:18
Think somebody. Yeah, I think somebody's found
1:00:21
Nyx too near about whereabouts its location is.
1:00:26
There's stuff about that. Actual exploration.
1:00:29
And the, yeah, this is exploration.
1:00:31
It's it's just in like, hard to do and ridiculous, but yeah.
1:00:39
You think that would be an awesome way to introduce a
1:00:41
planet? Somebody actually has to stumble
1:00:43
across it and find it, then it's actually marked.
1:00:46
That would be great. And that'd be.
1:00:48
Awesome, yeah. Maybe forever have their name
1:00:51
associated with that planet that they.
1:00:52
That would not be awesome. You're describing no man in the
1:00:56
sky. Yeah.
1:00:57
It wouldn't be called that by the name, it would be called.
1:01:00
Something. Because it wouldn't end up being
1:01:02
like Fart Lord 60. 9 Discovered by.
1:01:05
Wicked, right? Great.
1:01:06
Something like. Fart Lord Dragon Ball.
1:01:08
Elite Dangerous ish. I'm not familiar with that game.
1:01:16
Be kind of neat. That would be cool.
1:01:21
All right, well, that's that's coming to the end tonight.
1:01:26
So, as we usually do, and since you're feeling a little better
1:01:30
hobo, would you like to play us out?
1:01:34
Not dramatically better, but.