Latest / DISGRACELAND / Tay-K: A Nationwide Manhunt and Art Imitating Life
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis. This episode is
- 0:05Speaker 1: dedicated to my old friend Liz Timpesta. You are a
- 0:08Speaker 1: true badass, sending you all the PMA in the world.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Is all right, let's get into the show. The story
- 0:26Speaker 1: surrounding seventeen year old hip hop viral sensation take K
- 0:30Speaker 1: forty seven is insane. He allegedly shot a man and then,
- 0:36Speaker 1: while awaiting trial on house arrest, cut off his ankle
- 0:39Speaker 1: bracelet and announced his escape to the world via Twitter. Then,
- 0:44Speaker 1: while on the run, made and released video depicting his escape,
- 0:49Speaker 1: where he has seen bragging about murder in assault, two
- 0:52Speaker 1: charges that at the time he was facing art imitating life.
- 0:59Speaker 1: The videos were led to his arrest in a matter
- 1:01Speaker 1: of hours. The nationwide manhunt may have come to an end,
- 1:05Speaker 1: but take K forty seven's hip hop career was just
- 1:08Speaker 1: getting started. His notoriety had caused his SoundCloud plays to
- 1:13Speaker 1: go through the roof, and Twitter erupted in support of
- 1:16Speaker 1: the young fugitive come star. Celebrity remixes were released, record
- 1:21Speaker 1: labels came calling, The song charted on Billboard, and the
- 1:25Speaker 1: video was viewed over one hundred million times. Why because
- 1:30Speaker 1: It's great? Music as real as it gets. That music
- 1:34Speaker 1: you heard at the top of the show, that wasn't
- 1:36Speaker 1: great music. It's far from real. It's a preset loop
- 1:40Speaker 1: from my mellotron called Harmonium Low MK two. I played
- 1:44Speaker 1: you that loop because I can't afford the license for
- 1:47Speaker 1: a shape of you by Ed Sheeran. And why would
- 1:50Speaker 1: I play you that specific slice of ginger cheese? Could
- 1:53Speaker 1: I afford it? Because that was the number one song
- 1:57Speaker 1: in America on March twenty seven, twenty seventeen, And that
- 2:03Speaker 1: was the day that Take A forty seven escaped his
- 2:06Speaker 1: house arrest or, as he put it, did the race,
- 2:09Speaker 1: becoming one of America's most wanted fugitives and one of
- 2:13Speaker 1: the Internet's biggest viral sensations in the process. On this episode,
- 2:19Speaker 1: Low harmoniums ginger cheese, busted ankle bracelets and Take A
- 2:24Speaker 1: forty seven.
- 2:26Speaker 2: I'm Jake Brennan, and this this disgraceland.
- 2:51Speaker 1: You are now about to witness. The strength of street
- 2:54Speaker 1: knowledge is the line at the beginning of NWA's Straight
- 2:57Speaker 1: out of Compton. We all know, oh, the iconic song
- 3:01Speaker 1: and album by now, it's music so powerful that it
- 3:04Speaker 1: has permanently singed itself upon America's cultural identity. You can't
- 3:09Speaker 1: describe the history of hip hop without giving Straight out
- 3:11Speaker 1: of Compton it's due, and you can't give an honest
- 3:14Speaker 1: depiction of the history of Los Angeles without mentioning the
- 3:18Speaker 1: album either. Straight out of Compton accurately forecast one of
- 3:22Speaker 1: America's blackest eyes, the Rodney King beating by the systematically
- 3:27Speaker 1: racist LAPD and subsequent La Riots in nineteen ninety two.
- 3:33Speaker 1: And the album wasn't some obscure, preachy, pedantic musical statement
- 3:37Speaker 1: about socioeconomic conditions and the plight of black America and
- 3:41Speaker 1: Los Angeles at the time. It was a visceral depiction
- 3:44Speaker 1: of life on Compton's streets. And it was a stone
- 3:47Speaker 1: cold hit. It sold over three million albums, a total
- 3:52Speaker 1: banger of a record start to finish, not a bad
- 3:55Speaker 1: song on it, and it sounded different from any other
- 3:58Speaker 1: hip hop at the time. Was hard and the vocalists
- 4:02Speaker 1: there were four front men, each voice nearly as powerful
- 4:06Speaker 1: as the next. Sure mc wren was more of a
- 4:09Speaker 1: player coach and Yellow filled the ringo slot, but Eazy E,
- 4:13Speaker 1: Ice Cube and Doctor dre On Straight out of Compton
- 4:17Speaker 1: were hip hop's answer to John Paul and George except
- 4:21Speaker 1: this wasn't Can't Buy Me Love? This was life. Ain't
- 4:24Speaker 1: nothing but bitches and money. Ice Cubess lyrics brought the
- 4:28Speaker 1: reality of growing up in south central Los Angeles to
- 4:31Speaker 1: suburban white American youth with authority. I know because I
- 4:36Speaker 1: was a suburban white American youth in nineteen eighty nine,
- 4:40Speaker 1: the year that NWA's Straight Out of Compton made it
- 4:42Speaker 1: to my little corner of Middle America. And when it did,
- 4:46Speaker 1: I was hooked. I wore that cassette out, memorized every lyric,
- 4:51Speaker 1: every skit, every beat. I was fascinated. The stories were
- 4:55Speaker 1: gripping the big thing with my friends, and I was
- 4:59Speaker 1: was this shit real or these guys making it all up?
- 5:03Speaker 1: Were cops really beating on dudes just for being black?
- 5:06Speaker 1: Were rappers really living a gang life, slinging dope and
- 5:10Speaker 1: committing drive by shootings in between playing shows and making records?
- 5:15Speaker 1: I was in camp reel. How could anyone make this up?
- 5:18Speaker 1: It was too wild. The truth, of course, was somewhere
- 5:22Speaker 1: in the middle. Easy E had og Street cred with
- 5:25Speaker 1: the crips, but I'm pretty sure Ice Cube went to
- 5:28Speaker 1: bed at night wearing matching pajamas. It didn't matter. Their
- 5:32Speaker 1: music was inspired and gangster as fuck. It was my
- 5:35Speaker 1: first experience with art imitating life, art that I appreciated himways,
- 5:42Speaker 1: and so when Rodney King and the La riots happened,
- 5:46Speaker 1: it was just life imitating art. Like most of America,
- 5:49Speaker 1: I was shocked as I watched the riots from the
- 5:52Speaker 1: safety of my suburban couch, but unlike most of America,
- 5:56Speaker 1: I can't say I was surprised. We knew this was
- 5:59Speaker 1: going to happen BECAUSEWA warned us, and when OJ got off,
- 6:03Speaker 1: same shocked, but not surprised. Unless you live in South
- 6:09Speaker 1: Central or Long Beach, or are a cop or a
- 6:12Speaker 1: social worker or first responder, or someone else working in
- 6:16Speaker 1: the area, this is likely where the story of LA
- 6:19Speaker 1: gang culture ends for you, culturally speaking anyways, But of
- 6:23Speaker 1: course that's not true. Gang life in South Central and
- 6:27Speaker 1: Long Beach continues to be pretty much just as dangerous
- 6:30Speaker 1: as it was when NWA burst on the scene. Statistics
- 6:34Speaker 1: are hard to come by, what with LAPD under reporting
- 6:38Speaker 1: violent crimes, but according to a report conducted by the
- 6:41Speaker 1: La County Board of Public Health the year Straight Out
- 6:44Speaker 1: of Compton was released nineteen eighty nine, there were five
- 6:48Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four gang homicides in La County. In
- 6:52Speaker 1: the year two thousand, there were four hundred and forty eight.
- 6:56Speaker 1: A vast majority of these deaths can be attributed to
- 6:59Speaker 1: the perpetually feuding gangs, the Bloods and the Crips. The
- 7:04Speaker 1: Crips the La Gangwa's Eaze and mc ren associated with
- 7:09Speaker 1: Boasts a worldwide membership of thirty five thousand gang members
- 7:13Speaker 1: comprised of a network of countless individual gangs, the Nutty
- 7:17Speaker 1: Block Cripslnana Bloc Crips, Long Beach In Sane Crips, south
- 7:23Speaker 1: Side Crips, West Side Crips, Cabbage Patch Crips, and on
- 7:28Speaker 1: and on and on. In the year two thousand, a
- 7:32Speaker 1: Nutty Block Compton Crip and a Long Beach in Sane
- 7:35Speaker 1: Crip gave birth to Tamor McIntyre, born into one of
- 7:39Speaker 1: America's most dangerous street gangs. No one knew it at
- 7:43Speaker 1: the time, but seventeen years later, just like those other
- 7:47Speaker 1: products of Compton Street's MWA, this boy's art would so
- 7:51Speaker 1: authentically imitate his life that it would land him on
- 7:54Speaker 1: the billboard charts and make him one of America's most
- 7:57Speaker 1: wanted fugitives in the process. By twenty sixteen, Taymor McIntyre
- 8:19Speaker 1: had dropped the name as gang banging parents gave him
- 8:23Speaker 1: for the preferred take A short for take K forty seven.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Of course he did that. Old Nwa Lyric was baked
- 8:31Speaker 1: into the cake. Take K forty seven's life had already
- 8:35Speaker 1: started imitating art. He may have only been a babyface
- 8:38Speaker 1: sixteen year old, but he had hard eyes, eyes that,
- 8:41Speaker 1: because of his upbringing, had seen things other sixteen year
- 8:45Speaker 1: olds will never see. Violence was in his blood. Robbery
- 8:50Speaker 1: was a viable career path, murder and occupational hazard, even
- 8:55Speaker 1: in shitfuck Texas, where he was now living. After his
- 8:59Speaker 1: dad had gone away to take A moved from La
- 9:02Speaker 1: to Las Vegas to live with his sister, and when
- 9:05Speaker 1: his dad got out, he moved the family to Arlington,
- 9:07Speaker 1: Texas for a fresh start. And it sucked. There was
- 9:10Speaker 1: nothing nothing to do for take A. There were two
- 9:15Speaker 1: roads out, robbing and rapping. He hedged his bets and
- 9:19Speaker 1: pursued both. Rapping was long shot. Take K fucked with
- 9:24Speaker 1: the Daytona Boys, but Santana Sage was serving forty four
- 9:27Speaker 1: years on a murder charge and the group was a
- 9:29Speaker 1: dead end, he decided to break out on his own,
- 9:32Speaker 1: and in twenty fifteen uploaded his first song to soundcloaud.
- 9:37Speaker 1: He'd seen other rappers like Lil Yachti break out big
- 9:40Speaker 1: time through SoundCloud, so why not him. Li Yati had
- 9:44Speaker 1: over a half million followers ended up with a record deal.
- 9:47Speaker 1: It was now modeling for Kanye West. Jesus, that dude
- 9:52Speaker 1: could do it. Take Ky's first upload, Biff Sandon grab
- 9:56Speaker 1: some local attention but failed to light the internet on fire.
- 10:00Speaker 1: We're into it, but not enough to send mister Kim
- 10:02Speaker 1: Kardashian knocking. For the then fifteen year old, it was
- 10:06Speaker 1: a real come to Jesus moment. So for the time anyways,
- 10:10Speaker 1: it was robbing. The alleged plan was to stick up
- 10:15Speaker 1: that boy, Ethan Walker, the one who always had the
- 10:17Speaker 1: good weed and the stacks of cash. He was crazy
- 10:20Speaker 1: for pussy, like every other twenty one year old dude
- 10:23Speaker 1: on the planet. He'd be no match for the two girls.
- 10:26Speaker 1: One of them wasn't much to look at, but she
- 10:28Speaker 1: knew how to work it, and she wasn't enough of
- 10:30Speaker 1: a distraction. Instinctively, Take knew that the other girl, the
- 10:34Speaker 1: one with those eyes, she'd do the trick. They told
- 10:38Speaker 1: Ethan they were on their way by his place to
- 10:40Speaker 1: smoke him up. The girl's car hit the fifteen hundred
- 10:44Speaker 1: block of Aspen Court in Mansfield, Texas, at around ten
- 10:48Speaker 1: pm on July twenty fifth, twenty sixteen. They rang the
- 10:52Speaker 1: bell and were buzzed in. Ethan locked the door behind them.
- 10:55Speaker 1: He'd already been robbed before and didn't need that shit again.
- 10:59Speaker 1: It was straight to the bedroom, weed and then hopefully sex.
- 11:04Speaker 1: The weed was thick, sticky, you really are to get
- 11:07Speaker 1: after it and break it up. While Ethan rolled a blunt,
- 11:11Speaker 1: he tried making small talk with the girls, and they
- 11:13Speaker 1: were acting weird, distracted, running in and out of the room,
- 11:17Speaker 1: out to the kitchen, fucking with their phones, not making
- 11:19Speaker 1: an eye contact. Maybe they're already high. Supposedly, the way
- 11:24Speaker 1: the plan was to go off was that take a
- 11:26Speaker 1: would text hit a lick to the girls. Hit a
- 11:29Speaker 1: lick was code for home invasion, and on that cueue
- 11:34Speaker 1: if the girls gave the okay, KK and his two boys,
- 11:37Speaker 1: who were outside, would then bust In and Robbie take
- 11:41Speaker 1: his weed and his money. The problem is that the
- 11:44Speaker 1: girls were fucking things up. They were taking way too
- 11:47Speaker 1: long to text back, does it go? Take K texted
- 11:51Speaker 1: nothing fuck inside. Girl number one was flirting with Ethan,
- 11:56Speaker 1: but Ethan wasn't interested. He wanted Girl number two with
- 12:00Speaker 1: the eyes, but she was smoking weed on the other
- 12:02Speaker 1: side of the room, trying to play it cool. Then
- 12:05Speaker 1: she wandered out to the kitchen again. She pulled out herself,
- 12:08Speaker 1: texted the OKA back to take care, and then unlocked
- 12:11Speaker 1: the front door the apartment. Taymore McIntyre aka take K
- 12:16Speaker 1: forty seven and two others allegedly burst through the door
- 12:19Speaker 1: at that moment, Gun's out shouting that this was a
- 12:22Speaker 1: robbery and everyone needed to chill the fuck out. Ethan
- 12:25Speaker 1: knew what was up immediately. Shit. He extracted himself from
- 12:30Speaker 1: Girl number one's bullshit advances and got to his feet
- 12:32Speaker 1: and quick. It all happened so fast before he could
- 12:36Speaker 1: even get his head around the queasy feeling in his stomach.
- 12:39Speaker 1: It was a bullet. He didn't even know where it
- 12:41Speaker 1: came from or from pool, and then nothing. Ethan Walker
- 12:48Speaker 1: was dead, just like that, twenty one years old and gone.
- 12:54Speaker 1: Witnesses from over at Aspen Court gave police everything they
- 12:58Speaker 1: needed to quickly piece together whom I have been to
- 13:00Speaker 1: blame for the robbery slash murder, and cops quickly rounded
- 13:04Speaker 1: up all involved, including Take, who, at sixteen years old,
- 13:09Speaker 1: had just caught his first murder charge. We'll be right
- 13:13Speaker 1: back after this word word word. House arrest sucked as
- 13:19Speaker 1: this shit fucked Texas wasn't bad enough now you had
- 13:22Speaker 1: to spend your time, all your time cooped up in
- 13:25Speaker 1: this lifeless apartment. But being charged with capital murder did
- 13:30Speaker 1: have his upside, since the arrest and the press surrounding it,
- 13:34Speaker 1: Take's SoundCloud plays had gone through the roof, relatively speaking. Anyways,
- 13:40Speaker 1: Lesson learned, the more really your shit is, the more
- 13:44Speaker 1: people are going to pay attention to you. Wait a minute,
- 13:47Speaker 1: that's it. Fuck house arrests. What good was it doing? What?
- 13:52Speaker 1: You're supposed to sit around for months waiting to be
- 13:54Speaker 1: ushered to and from court where you face either life
- 13:57Speaker 1: in prison with no shot a parole, or death sentence. No,
- 14:02Speaker 1: how are you supposed to become a hip hop star
- 14:04Speaker 1: like that? Hell? How are you supposed to rob anyone
- 14:06Speaker 1: like that? The decision was easy, stay and you're going
- 14:11Speaker 1: to jail or worse, run and you could get caught.
- 14:14Speaker 1: But fuck it, maybe you release some music along the way.
- 14:18Speaker 1: Get your SoundCloud really going. Maybe you get some of
- 14:20Speaker 1: that record label money, or go back to Robin. How
- 14:24Speaker 1: bad could life? Is? A fugitive be probably beats a
- 14:27Speaker 1: shit out of sitting around at home. So on March
- 14:30Speaker 1: twenty seventh, twenty seventeen, take K forty seven cut his
- 14:34Speaker 1: ankle bracelet off and sent out the following tweet, Fuck
- 14:38Speaker 1: this house, arrest shit, fuck twelve. They gonna have to
- 14:40Speaker 1: catch me on a hood. I'm not gonna lie. Had
- 14:44Speaker 1: I seen that tweet in real time, I probably wouldn't
- 14:46Speaker 1: have understood what the hell it meant, But the rest
- 14:48Speaker 1: of the twitters fear got it. Tak was gone. He split,
- 14:54Speaker 1: and as his escape picked up steam, so did his tweet.
- 14:58Speaker 1: Now the take was on the run from the law,
- 15:00Speaker 1: he started to really blow up on SoundCloud, and hip
- 15:03Speaker 1: hop fans weren't the only ones interested, obviously. The United
- 15:07Speaker 1: States Marshalls Service listed him as a violent fugitive, released
- 15:11Speaker 1: a wanted photo, and solicited the public for help in
- 15:13Speaker 1: locating you. The public had other ideas. Fans took to
- 15:19Speaker 1: Twitter almost immediately to tweet posts of support for take,
- 15:22Speaker 1: whose Twitter profile featured several videos and pictures of him
- 15:26Speaker 1: posing with guns, cash, and dope. No matter, the tweets
- 15:30Speaker 1: started pouring in from all over Run take A. I
- 15:35Speaker 1: hope they never find take take A can murdered this
- 15:37Speaker 1: pussy anytime? And the ubiquitous protect take A at all costs.
- 15:43Speaker 1: That one was retweeted over and over again and used
- 15:46Speaker 1: in the context of whatever was trending on Twitter that day,
- 15:49Speaker 1: as in, there's a hurricane coming to Houston, protect take
- 15:52Speaker 1: A at all costs. Allegedly, take A headed from Arlington,
- 15:57Speaker 1: Texas to San Antonio. Maybe the plan was to escape
- 16:00Speaker 1: to Mexico. Maybe there was no plan at all, but
- 16:04Speaker 1: in the absence of a plan, there was predictability. Wrapping
- 16:08Speaker 1: and robbing. Authorities suspect that while in San Antonio, take
- 16:13Speaker 1: K robbed and assaulted a sixty five year old man,
- 16:16Speaker 1: and shortly after he made his escape, take started sending
- 16:20Speaker 1: new music to his manager, sixteen year old Ezra Averil.
- 16:24Speaker 1: One track was so good they decided they needed a
- 16:28Speaker 1: video for its release to really take advantage of the
- 16:31Speaker 1: social media wave. Takey's fugitive status had given him so
- 16:35Speaker 1: in late May twenty seventeen, take K forty seven a
- 16:39Speaker 1: Most Wanted fugitive somehow hooked himself up with his friends,
- 16:44Speaker 1: presumably back in Texas to shoot the video. The video
- 17:04Speaker 1: looked great and the song slammed. Ezra knew they were
- 17:08Speaker 1: onto something, and take K knew he had to lam
- 17:11Speaker 1: it again or else get caught. So he headed north
- 17:14Speaker 1: and as he continued to run, his name continued to
- 17:17Speaker 1: ring out on Twitter. The original plan was to release
- 17:21Speaker 1: the video later that year, but the Internet wants what
- 17:24Speaker 1: the Internet wants when the Internet wants it. So smartly,
- 17:28Speaker 1: Ezra set up a deal with Miami rap collective Buffet
- 17:32Speaker 1: Boys to release the video on their YouTube channel, and
- 17:36Speaker 1: by the time Taik arrived in Elizabeth, New Jersey, on
- 17:40Speaker 1: June thirty, twenty seventeen, the video was ready for release.
- 17:44Speaker 1: At eight fifty four pm, take K forty seven tweeted
- 17:48Speaker 1: out the video with the following caption, Feds can't hold
- 17:51Speaker 1: me back. Here it go take A the race music video. Boom,
- 17:59Speaker 1: Twitter blew up. The video was everything Ezra had hoped
- 18:02Speaker 1: it would be. The opening shot shows a wanted poster
- 18:05Speaker 1: of take A. The beat drops and as a viewer,
- 18:08Speaker 1: you're immediately on board. Art imitating life. Take A is
- 18:14Speaker 1: seen in the video, mugging for the camera and dancing
- 18:16Speaker 1: around with a nine millimeter Every lyric is a depiction
- 18:20Speaker 1: of his seventeen year old life at that moment. It's
- 18:23Speaker 1: all running, robin and killing. It was real, real enough
- 18:29Speaker 1: for detectives to easily team with the numerous tips they'd
- 18:32Speaker 1: been receiving from all over the country, and within hours
- 18:35Speaker 1: of the video being released, Take K forty seven was arrested.
- 18:40Speaker 1: He was extradited from New Jersey back to Texas. As
- 18:43Speaker 1: if the video wasn't enough, news of his capture pushed
- 18:46Speaker 1: the video over the top. Hashtag free take a quickly
- 18:50Speaker 1: became a thing on Twitter. Travis Scott tweeted out a
- 18:53Speaker 1: line from the race, do the dash then go out
- 18:56Speaker 1: the way, giving the unknown rapper hip hop's seal of approval.
- 19:00Speaker 1: Remixes by massively popular artists like Taiga, twenty one Savage,
- 19:04Speaker 1: and Yes, even Lil Yati started showing up. The song
- 19:08Speaker 1: debuted on the Billboard charts at number seventy and peaked
- 19:12Speaker 1: at number forty four. Rumors started circulating that RCA Records
- 19:17Speaker 1: was interested in signing the young fugitive, despite news that
- 19:20Speaker 1: he was going to be tried as an adult for
- 19:22Speaker 1: capital murder. The rumors were partly true. RCA record exect
- 19:27Speaker 1: Jay Grand signed take K forty seven to his independent
- 19:30Speaker 1: label eighty eight Classic, but it remains to be seen
- 19:33Speaker 1: if TAKEK ever get hold of any of that record
- 19:35Speaker 1: label cash. The video for the race, however, has been
- 19:40Speaker 1: viewed over one hundred million times one hundred million times.
- 19:46Speaker 1: Someone's getting paid. YouTube should be paying take K forty
- 19:49Speaker 1: seven's legal fees, After all, they're advertising against his video.
- 19:54Speaker 1: If I were Taymore McIntyre's manager, I'd be starting a
- 19:57Speaker 1: new hashtag campaign forget free, take care. What about pay
- 20:01Speaker 1: take a legal fees? Especially if for two capital murder
- 20:06Speaker 1: charges can get expensive? Oh yeah, authorities added another murder
- 20:11Speaker 1: charge to take after he was caught for the alleged
- 20:14Speaker 1: murder of a victim outside of San Antonio fast food
- 20:17Speaker 1: restaurant while on the run. More to the point, art
- 20:22Speaker 1: imitating life can get expensive. Take K forty seven's rise
- 20:27Speaker 1: in popularity has as much to do with this art
- 20:29Speaker 1: as it does with his life. Rappers have been boasting
- 20:33Speaker 1: and talking shit ever since the genre came to be.
- 20:36Speaker 1: The more authentic those hip hop artist seemed, the wider
- 20:39Speaker 1: their appeal see straight out of Compton as Exhibit A.
- 20:43Speaker 1: But with n WA, there was an unseen line between
- 20:46Speaker 1: art and life. You really couldn't see it, but you
- 20:49Speaker 1: kind of knew it was there. That line made the
- 20:52Speaker 1: artists a little less scary and a little more acceptable.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Take K forty seven, on the other hand, feels a
- 20:58Speaker 1: lot more real, maybe because of the viral diy nature
- 21:02Speaker 1: of it all. It's all super authentic. Unlike with NWA,
- 21:07Speaker 1: there isn't a shred of daylight between what could be
- 21:10Speaker 1: real and what could be fake. There is no debate.
- 21:14Speaker 1: It's all real life imitating life. And let's not forget Tunoucent.
- 21:20Speaker 1: People are dead and a seventeen year old is facing
- 21:24Speaker 1: either life in prison or the death sentence, So all
- 21:28Speaker 1: of it it's also a disgrace. I'm Jake Brennan and
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