Latest / PAMOJA PODCAST | PAMOJA MINISTRY, A LIFE OF CHRIST INTERNATIONAL MINISTRIES / The House in the Middle of the Forest Conversation 15 – Part I: The Atmosphere Inside the House
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- 0:00Welcome to Pomoja Podcasts, the place where stronger
- 0:04lives are built, faith is strengthened, hearts
- 0:08are encouraged, and Christ -centered homes are
- 0:11shaped through ordinary conversations that become
- 0:15extraordinary encounters with God's truth. One
- 0:20conversation, one story, one revelation at a
- 0:25time. Well, here we are. the final window. If
- 0:30you have been with me since our very first conversation,
- 0:34thank you. Thank you for allowing me to walk
- 0:37this journey with you. My prayer is that these
- 0:40conversations have done more than simply encourage
- 0:43your marriage. I pray they have drawn you closer
- 0:46to God's heart and reminded you that marriage
- 0:49has always been His idea. When my father first
- 0:54shared with me the story of the house in the
- 0:56middle of the forest, I honestly thought he was
- 1:00simply giving me advice about marriage, a warm
- 1:03house, a dangerous forest, windows that should
- 1:07remain closed. It sounded like a simple story,
- 1:12but the longer I lived and the more I reflected
- 1:15on those words, the more I realized there was
- 1:19so much more hidden inside that story than I
- 1:22had first imagined. Conversation after conversation.
- 1:27We opened another window and every window revealed
- 1:31another truth. Sometimes those truths were encouraging.
- 1:36Sometimes they were deeply challenging. Sometimes
- 1:40they forced us to stop and honestly examine our
- 1:44own homes. But every conversation was moving
- 1:48us in the same direction, even when we didn't
- 1:50realize it. And today, we finally arrive at the
- 1:55last window. Not because there are no more lessons
- 1:59to learn. There will always be more to discover.
- 2:03But because I believe this final window explains
- 2:06why every other window matters. There is something
- 2:12remarkable about every window we have explored.
- 2:15The window of words, the window of comparison,
- 2:19the window of secrecy, the window of influence.
- 2:23None of them begins with the intention of destroying
- 2:27a marriage. Words usually begin with frustration.
- 2:31Comparison begins with dissatisfaction. Secrecy
- 2:35begins with something hidden. Influence begins
- 2:39with someone welcomed. Different beginnings.
- 2:43Different stories. Different dangers. Yet all
- 2:46of them quietly lead to the same place. They
- 2:50change. The atmosphere inside the house. And
- 2:53perhaps that is the greatest lesson we have been
- 2:57discovering throughout this entire journey. No
- 3:00marriage falls apart because of one conversation.
- 3:04No family drifts away from God because of one
- 3:07decision. No home suddenly becomes cold overnight.
- 3:12The atmosphere changes long before the house
- 3:16begins to fall. That is why we must guard what
- 3:20enters our hearts. What enters our conversations?
- 3:24What enters our relationships? And what enters
- 3:27our homes? Because every window is an invitation.
- 3:33The question has never been whether something
- 3:35will enter the house. The question has always
- 3:39been who or what are we inviting in? As I reflected
- 3:45once again on my father's story, I realized something
- 3:50that had been there. from the very beginning.
- 3:53He never spent much time talking about the forest.
- 3:56He talked about the house. He never tried to
- 3:59make me afraid of what was outside. He wanted
- 4:02me to understand the value of what was inside,
- 4:05because people never protect what they do not
- 4:08value. The people living in that house understood
- 4:12that something much more valuable than the forest
- 4:15already existed inside their home. They weren't
- 4:19simply trying to keep danger outside. They were
- 4:23preserving the warmth. They were protecting the
- 4:26peace. They were guarding the life they had built
- 4:30together. Then another thought came to me. What
- 4:34if the warmth wasn't simply the result of good
- 4:37communication? What if it wasn't simply the result
- 4:41of commitment? What if it wasn't simply the result
- 4:45of learning how to resolve conflict? What if
- 4:48there was something even deeper, something without
- 4:52which none of those things could truly survive?
- 4:57Because every Christian home may have love. Every
- 5:01Christian home may have commitment. Every Christian
- 5:05home may have dreams for the future. But what
- 5:08is it that gives life to all of those things?
- 5:12What creates the atmosphere inside a Christian
- 5:15home? What makes one house feel different from
- 5:19another? What is it that fills one home with
- 5:22peace while another slowly grows cold? I believe
- 5:27the answer has been quietly waiting for us since
- 5:32the very beginning of this story. Because there
- 5:36is one final window, one that explains every
- 5:40other window we have explored. I call it. the
- 5:45window of God's presence. Because a house without
- 5:49God at its center is a house with every window
- 5:53open. What creates the atmosphere inside a Christian
- 5:58home? That last question stayed with me. What
- 6:02really creates the atmosphere inside a Christian
- 6:05home? Because if the atmosphere can change, then
- 6:09something must be changing first. Homes do not
- 6:13become cold by accident. Something happens before
- 6:17the warmth disappears. Something changes before
- 6:21the windows begin to open. And perhaps that is
- 6:24where so many marriages become confused. We spend
- 6:28a lot of time trying to fix what we can see.
- 6:31The words, the attitudes, the arguments, the
- 6:36distance. But what if those things are not the
- 6:39problem? What if they are simply telling us that
- 6:43something much deeper has already changed? As
- 6:47I continued thinking about my father's story,
- 6:51another question came to my mind. What kept that
- 6:54house warm? My father never answered that question,
- 6:59at least not directly. He simply described the
- 7:03house. It was warm. It was safe. It was different
- 7:07from everything surrounding it at first. I thought
- 7:11the warmth was just another detail in the story.
- 7:15Now, I don't think it was. I think it was the
- 7:19story. Because warmth never happens by accident.
- 7:23Someone has to keep the fire burning. Someone
- 7:26has to protect it. Someone has to make sure it
- 7:31never goes out. Then another thought came to
- 7:34me. Maybe that is what happens inside every Christian
- 7:38home. Nobody wakes up one morning and says, today,
- 7:43I no longer want God in my home. It doesn't happen
- 7:47that way. It happens quietly. Little by little,
- 7:52prayer becomes less frequent. Not because we
- 7:55stop believing, but because life became busy.
- 7:58The Bible remains closed. Not because we rejected
- 8:02God's word, but because we convinced ourselves.
- 8:06We would read it tomorrow. Worship becomes occasional.
- 8:11Not because we stopped loving God, but because
- 8:15other things slowly became more important. Church
- 8:19becomes another activity on the calendar, instead
- 8:22of the place where our hearts are refreshed.
- 8:26Nothing dramatic happens. Life simply moves on.
- 8:31The children keep growing. Work keeps demanding
- 8:34more of us. The bills keep coming. The schedule
- 8:38keeps getting fuller. From the outside, everything
- 8:42still looks the same. But inside, something has
- 8:47changed. The fire isn't burning like it once
- 8:50did. And when the fire begins to fade, the atmosphere
- 8:54begins to change. Peace slowly gives way to tension.
- 8:59Patience becomes harder to find. Forgiveness
- 9:03takes longer. Conversations become shorter. Silence
- 9:07becomes more common. Not because we no longer
- 9:11love each other, but because the warmth that
- 9:14once filled the house is no longer filling every
- 9:17room. Then I realized something. The greatest
- 9:22danger was never that someone would open a window.
- 9:26The greatest danger was allowing the fire inside
- 9:29the house to slowly go out. Because once the
- 9:33fire is gone, the cold doesn't need permission
- 9:36to enter. It simply does. What cold has always
- 9:40done. It fills every place where warmth no longer
- 9:45exists. And perhaps that brings us to another
- 9:48question. What is the fire that every Christian
- 9:53home must protect? That last question stayed
- 9:57with me. What is the fire that every Christian
- 10:01home must protect? The more I reflected on my
- 10:04father's story, the more I realized that I had
- 10:07been asking the wrong question. I kept asking
- 10:10what kept the house warm, but perhaps the better
- 10:13question was who kept the house warm. Because
- 10:17warmth has never simply been the result of a
- 10:20fire. Warmth is always the evidence that someone
- 10:24is present and caring enough to keep that fire
- 10:27alive. Think about your own home for a moment.
- 10:31You can walk into a house that is beautifully
- 10:34decorated, filled with expensive furniture, and
- 10:37perfectly organized, yet something immediately
- 10:40tells you that it feels empty. Nothing has moved.
- 10:45Nothing is broken. Everything is exactly where
- 10:49it should be, but the atmosphere is different
- 10:52because presence changes everything. As I continued
- 10:56thinking about that, I realized that this has
- 10:59always been God's design for his people. Throughout
- 11:03scripture, whenever God's presence filled a place,
- 11:08the atmosphere of that place was never the same
- 11:10again. It wasn't the building that made the difference.
- 11:14It wasn't the walls, the furniture, or the appearance.
- 11:19It was the presence of God dwelling there. Then
- 11:22I remembered the words of Joshua. As for me and
- 11:26my house, We will serve the Lord. For many years
- 11:30I understood that verse as a family commitment,
- 11:33but I now believe Joshua was declaring something
- 11:36much deeper. He had already decided who would
- 11:39occupy the center of his home. He understood
- 11:42that every house has something at its center,
- 11:45and whatever occupies that place will eventually
- 11:48shape the atmosphere of everyone who lives there.
- 11:51Some homes are built around success, others revolve
- 11:55around careers. financial security, personal
- 11:58ambition, or comfort. None of those things are
- 12:01evil by themselves, but none of them were ever
- 12:04meant to become the center of a Christian home.
- 12:08God never intended our marriages to revolve around
- 12:11those things. He intended them to revolve around
- 12:15His presence. That realization changed the way
- 12:19I understood every conversation we have had throughout
- 12:22this journey. The words matter, communication
- 12:25matters, trust matters, forgiveness matters,
- 12:28every window we have explored matters. But none
- 12:31of them can create the atmosphere we have been
- 12:34talking about if the presence of God is no longer
- 12:37at the center of the house. That is why Jesus
- 12:40said, apart from me, you can do nothing. He wasn't
- 12:44simply speaking about ministry or serving Him.
- 12:48He was revealing a principle that reaches every
- 12:51area of our lives. We cannot produce through
- 12:54our own strength what only His presence can produce.
- 12:58Peace is not something we manufacture. Grace
- 13:01is not something we manufacture. Forgiveness
- 13:04is not something we manufacture. The atmosphere
- 13:07of a Christian home is not something we manufacture.
- 13:11Those things become the natural fruit of a house
- 13:14where Christ is welcomed, honored, and allowed
- 13:17to remain at the center. And perhaps that explains
- 13:20why homes rarely fall apart because of one single
- 13:24event. They begin to drift when something else
- 13:26quietly takes the place that only God was meant
- 13:29to occupy. As I reflected on everything we had
- 13:33discovered, another passage of scripture came
- 13:36to my heart. It is one we have all read many
- 13:40times, yet I'm not sure we always notice what
- 13:43Jesus is really teaching. In Matthew chapter
- 13:467, Jesus tells the story of two houses. At first
- 13:50glance, they seem almost identical. Both houses
- 13:54were built. Both represented someone's dream,
- 13:58someone's investment, someone's future. From
- 14:01a distance, there was nothing to suggest that
- 14:04one would survive while the other would collapse.
- 14:08Then the storm came. I have always found it interesting
- 14:12that Jesus never said if the storm comes. He
- 14:16said the rain fell, the rivers rose, and the
- 14:19winds blew against both houses. The storm did
- 14:23not choose one house and avoid the other. It
- 14:26came against both. That tells me something important
- 14:30about marriage. Following Christ does not exempt
- 14:34us from storms. Loving one another does not exempt
- 14:38us from storms. Being called by God does not
- 14:42exempt us from storms. Even building your home
- 14:45with sincere intentions does not exempt you from
- 14:49storms. Every house will eventually be tested.
- 14:53The question has never been whether storms will
- 14:56come. The question has always been what the house
- 15:00was built upon before the storm arrived. That
- 15:04changes everything because most people judge
- 15:07a house when the sun is shining. God reveals
- 15:11a house when the storm arrives. The storm does
- 15:14not create the foundation. It reveals it. It
- 15:19exposes what was already there. And perhaps that
- 15:23is why some marriages surprise us. We look at
- 15:27them and wonder what happened. But maybe the
- 15:31storm didn't destroy the marriage. Maybe it revealed
- 15:34what had quietly been happening beneath the surface
- 15:38for years. That is a sobering thought. It reminds
- 15:42us that foundations are built long before they
- 15:45are tested. You do not prepare the foundation
- 15:48while the storm is raging. You prepare it while
- 15:51the skies are still clear. As I thought about
- 15:54my father's story one more time, I realized something
- 15:58that had never occurred to me before. He never
- 16:01told me whether storms came to that house in
- 16:04the middle of the forest. He didn't have to.
- 16:07A house standing alone in the middle of a forest
- 16:10will inevitably face rain, wind, cold, and seasons
- 16:15of uncertainty. The remarkable part of the story
- 16:18was never the absence of storms. The remarkable
- 16:22part was that the house remained a place of warmth
- 16:25in spite of them. And I think that is exactly
- 16:29what Jesus was teaching. The strength of a house
- 16:32is not measured by the storms it avoids. It is
- 16:35measured by what remains after the storm has
- 16:38passed. As I finished that thought, I became
- 16:42very quiet because I realized I was no longer
- 16:46thinking about my father's story. I was thinking
- 16:49about my own. As I sat there reflecting on everything
- 16:55we had discovered throughout this journey, I
- 16:59became very quiet because I realized I was no
- 17:03longer thinking about my father's story. I was
- 17:06thinking about my own. For years, I have shared
- 17:10these conversations with you as someone who has
- 17:13been learning from the wisdom my father passed
- 17:16on to me. But somewhere along the way, I realized
- 17:20that God was not simply reminding me of a story
- 17:24from my childhood. He was helping me understand
- 17:27the story he was writing in my own marriage.
- 17:31Before Giselle and I were married, I spent time
- 17:34seeking the Lord. I prayed. I fasted. I wanted
- 17:38to know that I was not simply making a good decision,
- 17:42but that I was walking in God's will for my life.
- 17:47During that season, The Holy Spirit opened my
- 17:50eyes in a way I cannot fully explain. He gave
- 17:54me a deep conviction that Giselle was the woman
- 17:57he had prepared for me. It reminded me of the
- 18:00moment Adam saw Eve for the very first time and
- 18:04said, this is now bone of my bones and flesh
- 18:07of my flesh. It was more than emotion. It was
- 18:11more than attraction. It was the quiet assurance
- 18:14that God himself had brought us together. That
- 18:18conviction became the foundation upon which we
- 18:21built our marriage. Like every young couple,
- 18:25we had dreams. We believed the future would be
- 18:29beautiful. We imagined building a home where
- 18:33Christ would always remain at the center, and
- 18:36where our children would grow up knowing his
- 18:39love and his faithfulness. And for many years,
- 18:42that was exactly our desire. But then life happened.
- 18:47Responsibilities increased, expectations changed,
- 18:52pressures came from directions we never anticipated.
- 18:57We discovered, just as every married couple eventually
- 19:00does, that building a home is very different
- 19:04from celebrating a wedding. There were moments
- 19:08when we misunderstood each other. There were
- 19:11moments when disappointment entered our hearts.
- 19:14There were seasons when the demands of life became
- 19:18louder than the quiet moments we used to spend
- 19:21in God's presence. None of it happened overnight.
- 19:25There wasn't one single event that changed everything.
- 19:30Looking back, I now realize it happened exactly
- 19:34the way we have described throughout this entire
- 19:36series. Little by little, small compromises,
- 19:41small distractions. Conversations that should
- 19:44have happened, but didn't. Prayers that became
- 19:48less consistent. Moments with God that slowly
- 19:51became less intentional. From the outside, our
- 19:55lives probably looked the same to everyone else.
- 19:59But inside the house, the atmosphere had begun
- 20:02to change. I didn't recognize it immediately.
- 20:06Neither did she. Because atmospheres rarely change
- 20:10all at once. They change so gradually that you
- 20:14learn to live with what once would have broken
- 20:17your heart. And that may be one of the enemy's
- 20:20greatest strategies. He rarely tries to destroy
- 20:24a Christian home in a single day. He simply tries
- 20:28to convince us that one neglected prayer doesn't
- 20:31matter. One unresolved disagreement doesn't matter.
- 20:36One day without seeking God doesn't matter. until
- 20:40one day we wake up and wonder why the warmth
- 20:43we once enjoyed seems so difficult to find. That
- 20:48was the moment I finally understood my father's
- 20:51story. The greatest danger was never the forest
- 20:55surrounding the house. The greatest danger was
- 20:58allowing the fire inside the house to grow weaker
- 21:01without noticing it. There comes a moment when
- 21:05every conversation stops being about someone
- 21:09else, and quietly, without even realizing it,
- 21:13you begin to see yourself. As I reflected on
- 21:17my father's story, I thought I was simply remembering
- 21:21the wisdom he shared with me many years ago,
- 21:24but I wasn't. God was holding up a mirror. I
- 21:28began to see my own house, my own marriage, my
- 21:33own journey. And that is where this story becomes
- 21:37deeply personal. Because there was a season when
- 21:40Giselle and I discovered that knowing the truth
- 21:43about marriage and living it faithfully are not
- 21:47always the same thing. Like every couple, we
- 21:51face storms. We experience moments of disappointment.
- 21:56We watch the atmosphere inside our own house
- 21:59begin to change. But what happened next? changed
- 22:03our lives forever. It reminded us that no marriage
- 22:07is beyond the reach of God's grace and no house
- 22:11is beyond restoration when Christ returns to
- 22:14the center. That is the story I want to share
- 22:19with you in our next conversation. Until then,
- 22:23may the Lord bless your home, guard your hearts,
- 22:27and may His presence remain the fire that fills
- 22:30every room of your house. God bless you. We'll
- 22:35see you in our next conversation