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- 1:03Infinite banks no escape
- 1:07episode two the interrogation of maya canton welcome back to slice of crimes
- 1:14i'm casey your resident slice sleuth and today i'll peel back the layers of
- 1:20what happened in that escape room on January 14th, 2017.
- 1:25We've already learned that Jenner Smith, the golden boy of Riverton High,
- 1:29met a gruesome end, but who among his friends wanted him dead?
- 1:34In this episode, we'll dive deep into the first interrogation,
- 1:38Maya Cantone, Jenner's girlfriend.
- 1:40Was she a victim of his charm, or did she have something darker hidden behind
- 1:44those wide, innocent eyes?
- 1:46Before we get into Maya's interrogation, let's clear up a few things.
- 1:50Eddie, the 16-year-old employee at Escape Haven, wasn't guilty of anything except
- 1:56bending the rules for a quick buck.
- 1:58The teens had pooled together $50 to persuade Eddie to let them play individually
- 2:03instead of in the usual two-team format.
- 2:06That was explicitly against the rules posted at the front desk.
- 2:10But money talks, and Eddie not only let them break the rules,
- 2:14he also extended their playtime, allowing everyone to finish rather than ending
- 2:20when the first person emerged victorious.
- 2:23This decision would later complicate the timeline as Eddie admitted he couldn't
- 2:27say in what order the teens came out, and there were no security cameras back there, only up front.
- 2:34He insisted he had no clue whose idea it was to bribe him. They all chipped
- 2:38in, and that's all he knew.
- 2:41He did mention he had answered a phone call earlier that day,
- 2:44a guy asking how strict the rules are, and does he stick to them?
- 2:49He told the detective he didn't pay attention to the name. Maybe it started with a J.
- 2:55Detective Sarah McAllister took note. That would be one of the many questions
- 2:59she'd ask each of them down at the station.
- 3:03One more detail she asked of Eddie, could he remember ever seeing any of them before?
- 3:07He claimed no, but added that the girl pulled out a punch card,
- 3:11but explained, they don't put names on those cards and people share them all
- 3:15the time to get a discount quicker.
- 3:18As for Eddie, his alibi checked out.
- 3:21Surveillance footage from the front desk, which covered the entire entrance
- 3:25and lobby, showed him glued to his phone, scrolling through Instagram and TikTok
- 3:29in between setting up the smaller escape rooms for other customers.
- 3:34With that, Eddie was cleared.
- 3:37McAllister showed Eddie the roll of duct tape that was discovered when Jenner's
- 3:41body was moved. It had been underneath him all along.
- 3:45Eddie recognized the roll, black with the brand Duck Pro printed on the inside.
- 3:50He showed the detectives the one kept next to the register. He explained there's
- 3:55one inside every escape room too in the toolbox up on the platform.
- 4:00It's for emergency repairs of broken venting or ripped fabric, that type of thing.
- 4:06Ramirez's eyes,
- 4:09He knew McAllister was focused on the knife, but he believed the duct tape was going to crack the case.
- 4:15McAllister was frustrated by Eddie's answer as to why there would be no security
- 4:19cameras in the back areas or inside the escape rooms.
- 4:22He told her the owner said it was too dark back there and there's nothing to
- 4:26steal. All the money is kept up front.
- 4:29Apparently the owner hadn't considered murder.
- 4:33McAllister found it absurd. Cameras should have been back there for many reasons,
- 4:37and being dark made them even more necessary.
- 4:41She shook her head, trying to shake off her irritability. The owner's nonchalant
- 4:46attitude towards security, especially in light of the murder,
- 4:50brought to her mind a chilling realization.
- 4:53The killer knew exactly what they were doing, exploiting every gap in the security.
- 4:59Detective McAllister was certain this murder was no spontaneous crime of passion.
- 5:04It was well-planned, and it had to be one of those kids.
- 5:09Inside the police station interrogation room, Detective McAllister sits across
- 5:14from Maya Canton, a petite 16-year-old girl who appears shaken,
- 5:19struggling to maintain composure.
- 5:23Detective McAllister's eyes fixed on Maya's shirt the moment she stepped into the room.
- 5:27Black leggings, thick socks, purple Crocs. Every inch of her was smeared with dried blood.
- 5:34But it was the oversized Prince Concert tee that caused McAllister to pause.
- 5:40Deep purple, bold lettering across the front. I would die for you.
- 5:46McAllister knew the song, of course. Who didn't? But under the circumstances,
- 5:51it felt ironic, almost satirical.
- 5:55Maya didn't seem to notice the irony, or notice at all for that matter.
- 5:59Music.
- 6:00What an unfortunate choice McAllister was struck.
- 6:04But something else bothered her more. Much more.
- 6:08Her mind drifted ever so briefly. An unusual occurrence for her.
- 6:13She was a precise and skilled interrogator. Every move she made and every word
- 6:18she uttered in this room were almost always calculated.
- 6:22Down to the last detail.
- 6:25But this case, well, it was exceptionally grim.
- 6:31The weight of the case pressing heavily on her shoulders. so heavily,
- 6:34she could physically feel the pressure.
- 6:37Maya sat dazed and rumpled in front of her.
- 6:39Music.
- 6:52Bright blonde tendrils of her curly hair sprung out. The cap appeared extra
- 6:57thick, extra fuzzy, and McAllister's thoughts solidified.
- 7:05Warm socks, warm hat, no coat.
- 7:08That would have been unbelievable to Detective McAllister if she hadn't seen
- 7:13the surveillance tape showing Maya and the others entering Escape Haven's lobby.
- 7:18Maya didn't have any type of jacket, sweater or coat despite the frigid temperature.
- 7:23She offered a blanket and Maya wrapped herself up, knees pulled to her chest,
- 7:28arms wrapped around her legs holding her in her chair.
- 7:31The fluorescent lights above cast harsh shadows emphasizing the tension in the room.
- 7:37Maya's eyes are red from crying, her body looks limp, and as she waits for the
- 7:42first question, she appears as if she could easily slide right out of her seat onto the floor.
- 7:48McAllister is curious why Maya seems so uncomfortable in her own skin.
- 7:52Is it shock, fear, deception, or just plain awkwardness?
- 7:57How strong is Maya's sense of self, she wonders. Is she a leader or a follower?
- 8:03The detective decides to ease into the questions.
- 8:07Maya, I know this has been a rough day for you, but I need you to tell me everything
- 8:11you remember. Let's start with the basics.
- 8:14How did you and Jenner end up at Escape Haven today?
- 8:17It was Jenner's idea. He said he wanted to do something fun,
- 8:21something that wasn't just hanging out at the mall.
- 8:23He thought the escape room would be a challenge, you know? He was always competitive like that.
- 8:29McAllister was surprised by Maya's steady answer. She must be stronger than she looks, she thought.
- 8:35Then she remembered, Maya was an athlete. That must be where her mental toughness is coming from.
- 8:41And the others? Jenkins, Blake, Myers. How did they fit into the plan?
- 8:48Jenner texted them. It was just supposed to be a fun afternoon.
- 8:51We're all friends. Or at least we were.
- 8:55And the money for Eddie? Was that Jenner's idea too?
- 8:59Here, Maya noticeably hesitates and drops her head and averts her gaze toward the table.
- 9:05I don't know. We all just put in the money. Jenner. He liked to do things his
- 9:10way. If he didn't like the rules, he'd find a way around them.
- 9:13I guess we all just went along with it.
- 9:17Did you notice anything off about Jenner today? Anything different in his behavior? He was distracted.
- 9:24Usually he's all about winning, about showing off. But today he seemed,
- 9:29I don't know, like his mind was somewhere else.
- 9:32He kept looking at Jenkins like he wanted to say something but didn't.
- 9:35But, I don't know, him and Jenkins were like that a lot. And Blake,
- 9:39they hardly spoke at all.
- 9:41Which is not normal at all. He got annoyed with me too, like short,
- 9:45because I was creeped out about the castle.
- 9:47I don't like the dark he knew that already. But he didn't care.
- 9:51He tried to tell me it wouldn't be that dark inside. How did he know that?
- 9:55Well, he was wrong anyway.
- 9:57It was dark and creepy, so I was right.
- 10:02What about you, Maya? How were things between you two? You've been dating for
- 10:06a while, right? Yeah, almost a year.
- 10:09Things were... Okay.
- 10:13Jenner was... He was amazing, you know? But sometimes he could be... He could be tough.
- 10:20He liked things his way, and sometimes that meant... I don't know.
- 10:25He didn't always treat me like I mattered.
- 10:28Did you ever feel angry with him? Angry enough to want to hurt him?
- 10:33No, I mean, he frustrated me, sure, but I never wanted to hurt him.
- 10:36I loved him, in my own way.
- 10:38Music.
- 10:45Flickering with a hint of something. Fear? Regret?
- 10:50Her entire interview has been a study in conflict as she seems to struggle to
- 10:54remain confident, while her fidgeting and lack of eye contact are telegraphing her discomfort.
- 11:02I... I don't know. Jenner was... he was the kind of guy everyone noticed,
- 11:07but sometimes I felt like he didn't really see me.
- 11:11Not the real me. I was just there.
- 11:15His girlfriend, you know?
- 11:18But I loved him. I really did. I would never hurt him.
- 11:25Did Jenner ever talk to you about Jenkins, about Blake, about Myers?
- 11:31Not really. He was close with Blake, but Jenkins?
- 11:35They had a complicated relationship. And Myers? Jenner didn't really know him that well.
- 11:40None of us did. He just showed up one day, and Jenner tried to be nice,
- 11:45but I think Jenner didn't trust him. Why not?
- 11:50I don't know. It was just a feeling, I guess.
- 11:54Like Myers was hiding something, but Jenner didn't talk about it. He just watched.
- 12:01I mean, I was with him a lot, and he did just pay attention to Myers more than
- 12:05normal. It's hard to explain.
- 12:07But he didn't complain about him hanging out, he just didn't talk to him.
- 12:11Maybe they were just so different.
- 12:14I mean, they were. Everybody is different than Jenner, you know?
- 12:18He's like superior, so confident.
- 12:21And Myers is like quietly confident, which is way different.
- 12:24But maybe it bothered Jenner.
- 12:26Did Jenner ever mention finding out something unusual? Something that didn't sit right with him?
- 12:33No, not that I remember. You're sure about that? Yes, I'm sure.
- 12:41Hey, Maya, one last thing before you go. Have you ever been to that escape room
- 12:44before? Me? No, that was my first time.
- 12:49Maya looks as if ready to escape the interrogation room. The detective has her
- 12:54hand on Maya's shoulder, lightly holding her in her seat.
- 12:58Maya is trembling uncontrollably.
- 13:02Okay, Maya, settle down. Take a deep breath. We're almost done here.
- 13:06Are you still cold? You're shaken.
- 13:10I'm always cold. And these questions are overwhelming me.
- 13:14I mean, no, I haven't been to that place and you keep asking.
- 13:19And I loved Jenner and he's gone.
- 13:21And what am I supposed to do now? I can't even talk to my friends and you act
- 13:26like I'm lying. I'm not lying.
- 13:29Hmm. Eddie was certain you handed him a punch card.
- 13:34Um, yeah, but it wasn't mine. One of the guys handed it up to me.
- 13:37I didn't pay attention. Maybe Blake.
- 13:39So I just put it on the counter for that Eddie guy to punch.
- 13:42I think Jenner put it back in his pocket.
- 13:45You sure? We found a punch card on the floor in the first room.
- 13:48It wasn't in Jenner's pocket. We will be checking it for prints.
- 13:55McAllister let her sit with that nugget of information. Maya's expression does
- 13:59not change. It was already fearful. She remained silent.
- 14:04Okay, well, then it was your first time in the room, and you had to enter it
- 14:09alone. Were you nervous?
- 14:11A little. It felt claustrophobic at first. The walls were so close together.
- 14:16It was dark. I almost panicked.
- 14:20But then I looked up and saw the high ceiling and rafters all open above,
- 14:24and I focused on how I feel when I dive.
- 14:27I do this mental thing before I dive to help my nerves. I imagine myself floating instead of falling.
- 14:34It puts me in control over my environment.
- 14:37Coach taught the whole team. That made me feel comfortable, not scared and not closed in anymore.
- 14:44And I turned on a flashlight, which is technically cheating,
- 14:47but I am really afraid of the dark, you know?
- 14:51What about exiting? How did you feel? Do you know what order everyone exited?
- 14:56I don't remember the order, but I felt glad to be out of that maze.
- 15:00I was lost and scared and it was so dark and I was all alone so I was happy to get out,
- 15:07And then I got chills for a second because Blake, he had the weirdest look on his face.
- 15:12It was like he was more scared or nervous than me and that freaked me out.
- 15:17Did you say anything to him? Ask if he was okay or what was wrong?
- 15:22No. We're not like that. He'd probably get mad if I said he looked scared.
- 15:27I was dehydrated from being so anxious, just wanting some water,
- 15:31and I had a bottle in my purse.
- 15:32So I just went in my own corner to drink it and wait for everyone.
- 15:36I was surprised Jenner wasn't out before me. I mean, he should have been first.
- 15:41McAllister knows this was a tight-knit group with Jenner in the center of it,
- 15:44his brother, his best friend, his cousin, and his girlfriend.
- 15:52But these kids spent a lot of time together. And now they're all downplaying
- 15:56their relationships with each other.
- 15:59McAllister's determined to unearth the true ties that bind these kids together.
- 16:04Look, Maya, you all know each other much better than you're admitting to.
- 16:09Jenkins was especially concerned about you. There must be a reason. Tell me why, Maya.
- 16:15Ask him. Maya slowly shakes her head no, eyes cast downward.
- 16:21McAllister will have to come back to her. Maya's depleted the energy she had
- 16:25mustered. She's not going to get anything more from her now.
- 16:30All right, Maya, we're going to need to keep talking, but I want you to know something.
- 16:35Right now, everyone's a person of interest. We're going to find out who did
- 16:39this, and the truth always comes out.
- 16:41If there's anything you're holding back, now's the time to tell me.
- 16:45Oh, and before you leave, we're going to need your clothes. They're part of the crime scene.
- 16:50Betty, right outside this door, will take you where you can change,
- 16:53and they will give you a jumper to wear home.
- 16:57McAllister calls Detective Ramirez in He's been observing via video feed And
- 17:01he's ready to share his thoughts,
- 17:03That girl is not telling it like it is She's telling it like she wants us to
- 17:07believe Her hesitation when you asked her If Jenna found something out was too
- 17:11apparent And her quick deflection about the punch card Was too abrupt I'm going
- 17:16with my gut I don't see us clearing her yet We got a ways to go Let's see what the others say about her,
- 17:21I know Mike But she seems scared to me Maybe she's not covering for herself.
- 17:26She could be covering for one of the others. Or maybe she's afraid of someone.
- 17:32Maya Canten. Sweet, quiet, and seemingly innocent.
- 17:38But beneath that exterior, Detective McAllister senses a deeper story.
- 17:44Is Maya just a victim of Jenner's charm? Or is there something more sinister lurking in her past?
- 17:50As the investigation continues, the detectives will have to dig deep to find
- 17:55out what really happened in that escape room.
- 17:59That does it for episode two of No Escape. Anyone feeling close to cracking the case?
- 18:05Well, there's plenty more on the horizon. So keep your eyes,
- 18:09ears, and mind wide open.
- 18:12Join me next time as I dive into the interrogation of the next suspect, Blake Dunstan.
- 18:17And remember, nothing is ever exactly as it seems.
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