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The Queering Of The American Child w/ James Lindsay |EP433 · The Big Mig Show

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  All men are created equal that they are endowed by their
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  Creator. With certain unalienable rights
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  by. Liberty.
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  If liberty means anything at all, it means right to tell
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  people what they do not want to hear.
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  Make America great. Again.
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  Well, there's you know, you always are nervous when a show
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  starts off with an hoops coming from George, especially if I say
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  oops, it's not as bad because George is obviously the tech
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  guy. Well, welcome back to the big
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  with my Co host George Ballantine doing what we do.
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  Of course, tip of the spear. And if liberty means anything at
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  all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to
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  hear. And you know, on this show, we
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  have to. Hopefully we've done it right.
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  We make a mistake where it was open to you guys telling us and
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  show. You're not going to want to miss
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  it. So tonight really interesting
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  show with a really interesting guy.
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  George throw up the thumbnail just so they can see this.
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  If you guys aren't familiar with this website, new discourses, I
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  go there quite a bit. James Lindsay is a proficient
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  author. Not only he's written many
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  books, co-authored many books and had his own books.
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  He's also writes regular articles and does a podcast over
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  there. Really interesting topics, deep
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  topics. He's an interesting guy.
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  He's an American born author, mathematician and professional
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  troublemaker. I called him a provocateur.
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  I don't know if that matches with troublemaker, but I think
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  it does. He's actually written six books
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  spanning range of subjects including religion, the
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  philosophy of science and postmodern theory.
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  He's a leading expert on critical race theory.
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  And I've got to tell you, he's got some really interesting
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  insights because when you start to understand the operation
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  that's working behind in the scenes, he really exposes it for
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  what it is. He's the founder of New
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  Discourses, like I said a minute ago, and currently promoting his
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  new book, Cynical Theories, how activist scholarship made
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  everything about race, gender, and identity, and why this harms
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  everybody. There's no reason to leave him
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  backstage, George. Let's bring in James.
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  All right, welcome to the big, big show.
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  James Lindsay, how you doing? Great.
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  How you guys doing? I think you had a better day
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  than us with that story you just told us earlier, but that.
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  Was a pretty good one, yeah, so let me just.
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  Line it out for the audience here.
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  So James, we appreciate you joining us.
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  We know you had a hectic day. You had stacked up interviews
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  because you just went viral. And I think it's a really
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  interesting story and I think you should share it with the
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  audience. So the timing for you coming on
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  the big Big is perfect because we didn't know you were going to
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  go viral. But let's talk about that for a
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  minute and give some people some background on what happened.
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  Yeah, I didn't know I was going to go viral either.
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  Actually, I spent half the week. I mean, I know I was going to do
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  this on Tuesday morning. And so isn't like the weekend
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  thinking and it won't be that big of a deal.
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  You know, it's like 1.8 million views on Twitter right now and
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  massive controversy. So I mean, I knew it'd be a
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  little controversial. So what I did was, you know,
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  I've been been dealing with the woke left, as we call them the
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  Marxist woke left for a long time.
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  I don't know if you guys or your audience would know, but it back
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  in 2018, I exposed the woke left in academia by writing a series
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  of hoax articles. I've been trying to criticize
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  them in the 1516 kind of ahead of everybody else or almost
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  everybody else, and they didn't want to hear it.
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  So we thought, me and my buddy Peter thought it'd be fun to
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  write a bunch of hoax articles, submit them to academic
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  journals, and we got a bunch of them published.
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  And one of the ones we got published was a rewrite of a
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  chapter of Mein Kampf. We took Hitler's memoir and, you
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  know, manifesto and we took the chapter about how to build the
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  Nazi party and why to build the Nazi party.
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  And we rewrote it, putting in intersectional feminism in place
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  of the Nazi Party. And that got accepted by a
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  feminist social work journal. And this got a lot of fanfare.
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  I mean, there were a bunch of other papers too.
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  We don't have to get into all that, but seven of them actually
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  got accepted in peer reviewed journals.
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  We end up front page of the New York Times, end up on Joe Rogan,
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  you know, a ton of attention for this.
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  And I've been trying to criticize for actually a couple
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  of years now, but more in the last three or four months.
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  The radical right as well, because I'm very worried that
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  I'm seeing kind of woke behavior with right wing values
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  allegedly, you know, being promoted from the radical right.
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  So I thought, well, I'll criticize them.
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  Well, that didn't work. They didn't want to hear it.
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  I started getting attacked by bots like everyday on social
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  media. They didn't know people were
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  like, I'm not interested in this.
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  And I was like, well, how do I get people's attention on this?
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  I said, Oh, I know what to do. Well, write an academic hoax, an
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  article hoax. So I wrote, I took 6 pages out
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  of the Communist Manifesto and which you know, you, you
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  wouldn't associate with right wing behavior.
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  And I rewrote it. I took out Marx's complaining
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  about the bourgeoisie and how terrible it's been for, for the
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  world to take out the bourgeoisie and replace it with
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  classical liberalism and the post war liberal consensus they
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  call it. And then I take out the
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  proletariats. That's Marx's good guys, right?
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  That's the workers. I take out proletariats and
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  workers and replace that with this thing they call themselves,
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  which is the new Christian right?
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  And they call themselves a lot of times the new right.
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  And I was like, well, let's see if they'll publish a section of
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  the Communist Manifesto that flatters their ideology.
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  And so I send this off to a magazine called The American
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  Reformer, which is not big, but it's big in their circles and
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  they published it. They published 6 pages of
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  communist rhetoric, communist, you know, conflict theory,
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  analysis. And then not only that, not only
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  did they publish it, I finally come public with this and they
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  stood by it. It's still on their website.
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  They changed, I gave the fake name Marcus Carlson because it
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  sounds like Karl Marx, but they changed the name to James
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  Lindsay. So that's me.
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  And they put an editor's note and said this actually
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  represents our thinking. It says this represent.
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  This is a reasonable wait. How did they figure out was you?
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  I told the world yesterday and that's what I went viral for.
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  So yesterday morning while I was at breakfast, because my tech
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  guy had to make a long drive, so we had to do it while we're at
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  breakfast. And he pushed play on the on the
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  article that we had written over the weekend.
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  And or I had written, I guess he didn't write it.
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  He pushed play on that. And so I'm sitting there trying
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  to eat breakfast and like explain myself on the Internet
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  at the same time. And this thing was started to
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  blow up immediately. And it's been really interesting
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  because now I've got all these like hardcore right wing guys
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  coming out and saying, you know, like, well, Marx was right about
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  about liberalism. He had a lot of good critiques.
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  You know, he was a really great writer.
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  And I'm like, Oh my God, what's going on?
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  I didn't think they were going to do this.
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  You know you've. You've started a new cult.
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  Yeah, apparently. It it's interesting is your is
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  your next project. Maybe you're going to do a
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  rewrite of The Red Book of Mao. Maybe that's your next.
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  Move. You know, I actually had thought
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  about that at one point. I'm.
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  Not oh, did you? But it turns out a lot of people
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  don't know the Little Red Book is just a it's just a book of
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  quotations. It's things Mao said.
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  It's 56 little tiny pages or something like that of quote
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  from Mao. It's really boring, but you
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  know, there are some really good tracks from Lenin and Stalin
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  about how decadent liberalism is that I totally could stick.
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  And I got three or four more publications that could end up
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  publishing some Stalin before the end of the before the end of
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  next year if if this keeps going all sideways.
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  Be careful you you might be running a gym Jim Jones rhetoric
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  kind of new cult. It might be frightening what can
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  happen, but it's. Interesting, right, You would
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  think. They would have ran in the other
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  direction when they knew what your your actual plan was.
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  And you're, by the way, you bring up Jim Jones.
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  A lot of people don't know Jim Jones was a communist.
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  When that? Was all about to go down like
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  Angela Davis. All the hardcore commies of the
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  70s were like writing letters to him.
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  And like, we got you, comrade. You know, a lot of people think
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  it was like some weirdo religious thing.
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  It wasn't. It was commies.
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  No, he was communist, there's no doubt about it.
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  And you're right, a lot of people don't know that.
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  That's just, it's a weird story, old Jones.
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  A lot of people don't really understand what was going on
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  there really, although it was, you know, not a great story at
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  the end, but the, but the, but the process, there were a lot of
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  celebrities communicating with him that thought he was just
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  amazing and incredible. Of course, they, they were
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  hopeful. I'm sure that none of their
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  letters got published during that time period because it
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  would have been pretty horrendous for their careers.
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  But you're kind of you're an interesting guy because you have
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  a PhD in math. And I got to ask you, this is
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  what I do with most people. If there's anything you want to
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  add to your bio that I left out because I, I used the
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  abbreviated version. I took it off there.
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  But what, what sent you down this path?
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  Because as a PhD in, in mathematics, it seems like you
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  were pretty well set to continue in that road.
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  And I, and I can see that the, the thinking process, I, I call
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  you a modern day philosopher. I think that you have a really
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  interesting tilt and the mathematics I think is why.
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  Can you explain to the audience what got you started in wanting
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  to expose this kind of insanity that's going on?
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  Yeah, I wish I could tell this story quick, but I'll try to do
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  it as far as short as possible because it it's one of those
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  things, it wasn't like one day I woke up and I want to do, you
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  know, take on woke politics. It was kind of like a series of
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  little things. So you are right.
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  I was. I was a mathematician.
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  It's usually only women who tell me I'm an interesting guy
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  because I was a mathematician. I'm just kidding.
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  No woman has ever said that. I don't think you study math.
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  You're interesting. Yeah.
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  That never comes up. What you hear back is I hate
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  math, but I was studying math and basically what happened was
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  I got sick and tired of the university.
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  Not there wasn't woke yet or not to my not in the math
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  department. So I didn't know it was woke.
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  They were changing all these policies where they wanted us to
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  not fail guys or kids that were in classes under, you know, the
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  200 level. So if they're in their 100 level
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  or maybe some 200 level introductory math classes, they
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  just have to take to get their major or to get their degree not
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  part of their major. They were like, you know, only
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  fail the worst student in class if they deserve it.
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  If you're going to fail more people write it up and you have
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  to explain why. Like all this reports and stuff.
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  And I was like, what are you talking about?
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  Like wrong is like, I'm a mathematician, right?
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  And I was like, math is hard. A lot of people fail.
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  That's OK. That's what it's supposed to do.
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  Everybody doesn't need like a participation diploma at the end
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  of college, but the university needed them paying tuition.
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  So don't make them feel bad. Don't demoralize them, keep them
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  in school, keep their scholarships.
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  And I was like, I don't want to participate in this.
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  I already didn't like how bureaucratic it was.
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  And there was, I don't want to keep doing this.
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  So I finished my degree and I just leave.
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  I did not pursue, you know, the whole postdoc tenure track,
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  blah, blah, blah. I could have, I had a family
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  also and it's like, do we want to move around 3 or 4 times in
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  the next six years? Not really.
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  You know, that's complicated. The kids are getting ready for
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  high school. It's like that's complicated.
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  They're going to be the new kid at like 2 schools.
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  You know, that's gross. So all things to put together.
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  I decided not to continue my academic career, left academia,
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  got a regular job. In fact, I became a massage
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  therapist, which the Internet sometimes decides to make fun of
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  me for women. Do think that's interesting?
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  As it turns out, that's awesome. That can come in handy.
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  It comes in handy. Yeah, that's a pun.
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  So, yeah. So I became a massage therapist
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  and I needed an academic outlet. I needed something to keep my
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  brain twirling. So I started to study philosophy
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  of science and kind of like reading these books about
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  psychology and how that plays in because I think that you've got
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  to understand some of the social sciences to do philosophy
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  because it's really a studying the human condition.
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  And so I was, I was getting involved in these discussion
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  boards and everything else. And they all just just got
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  ransacked by feminists. And so my introduction to woke
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  was like trying to do discussion about religion or trying to do
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  discussion about philosophy of science or whatever.
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  And it was like, if you're not putting feminists in charge of
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  everything, somehow you're a sexist.
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  And so that led me to start reading woke literature, start
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  reading and looking at the woke academic literature, which is
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  where they said they got those crazy ideas.
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  And one thing led to another. And I already told you the kind
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  of other part of the story. Eventually, in 2016, these guys
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  published a paper. This is a real paper.
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  You can go look it up. It's about glaciers and the
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  glaciology, The science of studying glaciers has to be
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  feminist or else it's sexist. And I was like, what?
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  And I read this paper and it's the craziest thing I ever read
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  in my life. I mean, it's insane.
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  It's way out there. And I mean, it's saying, like,
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  these feminist art projects have to be evaluated by scientists to
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  improve their studies of glaciers.
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  It's talking about indigenous myths about glaciers having sex
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  with one another. Like, it's really weird.
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  And I thought, this is terrible. What are they doing?
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  And so me and my buddy Peter that I mentioned, Peter
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  Boghossian, got talking and decided let's hoax these people.
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  Like they'll publish anything, right?
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  And so that led us to writing the the hoaxes.
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  And then halfway through that, the only part of my, you know,
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  origin superhero story I didn't tell.
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  Halfway through that we write this paper about education and
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  the peer review comments come back and they don't want the
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  paper yet. They want us to do more work on
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  it. But they the comments we had
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  said we're going to abuse kids out of their privilege.
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  I mean, that's the short version of the what this paper is about.
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  We're going to, you know, bully them in class.
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  We're going to make them wear chains and sit on the floor and
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  like all this stuff if they're privileged and we said, but
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  we're going to do it with compassion.
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  And the peer reviewer said, you can't use compassion.
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  You need to study this thing called the pedagogy of
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  discomfort. You're going to recenter the
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  needs of the privileged kids, whatever that means.
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  And we were like, holy crap, you know, that's evil.
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  And I got thinking about it and I was like, this is the kind of
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  logic that undoes a civilization like this ends in genocide.
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  Some people, because of their skin color or because of who
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  they are born as or who they're sexually attracted to or
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  whatever, whatever it is some characteristics are, they're
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  intrinsically bad and we're going to re educate them through
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  pain and discomfort and struggle.
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  And then you can't use compassion because that just
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  multiplies the original crime in the 1st place.
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  And I didn't know enough about Mao at the time to know that
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  that was like struggle sessions. I didn't know.
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  I just knew that that looked like the kind of thing that ends
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  in genocide if it's allowed to play out.
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  And I was like, whatever's going on in academia is really bad.
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  So I asked my wife if I could quit my job as a massage
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  therapist and dedicate all my time to finding out what's going
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  on in academia and exposing it to the world.
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  And then it's just been one thing led to another.
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  I just committed myself to studying and exposing this stuff
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  at literally full tilt ever since.
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  That was in February or January of 20/20/18.
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  So that's a long time ago now, getting on 7 years ago.
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  And I've done, you know, full time independent research ever
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  since. Reading as much of this as I can
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  read in my spare time or my working time too, and writing
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  about it, getting my head around it, communicating it, traveling
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  and talking all over the world. Oxford, Japanese Parliament,
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  European Parliament, I mean, everywhere.
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  You've done a. Lot of public speaking.
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  I looked at that and I was impressed by the amount you'd
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  done and a lot of interesting places you did it.
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  So like I'm, I'm assuming that why you were doing this was new
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  discourses in existence yet or this LED you to that.
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  And let's explain to the audience newdiscourses.com.
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  It's his platform and it was founded by him.
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  Of course, you guys know and you want to look at the they always
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  critique, they analyze, critique you contemporary social justice
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  ideologies and their academic roots like critical race theory.
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  So I think that gives you a very Cliff note, very short of what
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  they do, I think. Yeah, that is, that's a good
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  Cliffs Notes. The, the, I mean, honestly, what
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  I mostly do, it's not the only thing I do, but I mostly do is I
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  read and digest these academic materials, whether it's, you
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  know, the Communist Manifesto or whether it's something, you
• 18:08
  know, like some weird paper in, in sexuality studies or
• 18:11
  whatever. And I usually actually read most
• 18:14
  of the paper to the audience and explain what they're saying.
• 18:17
  So people can understand leftism, you know, all the way.
• 18:20
  They can hear the actual leftist words and then hear what they
• 18:23
  mean. And I mean, it's somewhat
• 18:25
  advanced sometimes. It's pretty easy other times.
• 18:27
  But that's basically what I do. So no, New Discourses didn't
• 18:31
  come into existence until February of 2020.
• 18:33
  So I met these guys that I still work with.
• 18:37
  Mike O'Fallon in particular is pretty famously who is this kind
• 18:41
  of big, big character in the kind of Christian apologetics
• 18:46
  and ministry world who reached out to me 'cause he heard me
• 18:49
  talking about the woke as a religion on a YouTube video.
• 18:53
  So he listens to me say that it has some Augustinian construct
• 18:56
  and it's built, you know, this way with original sin and you
• 18:59
  know, the whole kind of permanent confession model that
• 19:02
  they, we all know that they have you confess, but you're never
• 19:04
  actually healed of your sin, never redeemed.
• 19:08
  And you're supposed to keep confessing.
• 19:10
  And so he thought that was really interesting because he
• 19:13
  had been arguing similar things in his circle.
• 19:15
  So he started diving into my work, reached out to me.
• 19:17
  We met and had dinner one night and just went out.
• 19:20
  He was on his way to drive to C pack and just stopped by
• 19:24
  Knoxville where I lived and took me out to dinner.
• 19:26
  And so we sat down and talked and we thought, you know, he was
• 19:29
  like your work. He's like, you really get it and
• 19:32
  you need a platform. And my company, one of the
• 19:35
  things that his existing company at the time did was build
• 19:39
  Internet platforms. He's like, we'll figure out a
• 19:41
  name, we'll build you the website, you can publish your
• 19:43
  material, you can push your own research.
• 19:46
  And when he was like, we have to make it cancel proof though.
• 19:48
  It has to be so that you don't have like 1 donor who's going to
• 19:51
  get mad at you and tell you what to do or you know, bail out.
• 19:56
  So it's got to be cancel proof. We can't have like bosses as
• 19:59
  the, you got to figure that out. So we spent most of 2019
• 20:02
  figuring out how to do that, and we built this.
• 20:05
  Highly diversified model for to bring in income and built the
• 20:11
  thing and released it early 2020 with a huge kind of backlog of
• 20:16
  information, very fortuitous, huge backlog.
• 20:18
  The first thing I populated the website with was an analysis of
• 20:21
  critical race theory that the world nobody actually really
• 20:24
  cared that much what it was in February of 2020 because George
• 20:28
  Floyd died in May of 2020. Yeah.
• 20:32
  Your timing couldn't have been more perfect.
• 20:33
  And I have to tell you, if he's the one that's responsible along
• 20:36
  with your obviously guidance, the website you've got is
• 20:39
  incredible. It's a great website, really.
• 20:41
  Well, together. Easy to navigate.
• 20:44
  You know, George, as a matter of fact, let's throw the website up
• 20:46
  for the audience right now so they can see it.
• 20:49
  I think it's, you know, I go to a lot of websites, you know,
• 20:52
  when you do what we do in investigative journalism and
• 20:54
  you're on the Internet literally from Ding to Dong from first
• 20:57
  thing in the morning till on, you know, when you're doing
• 21:00
  research, you come across a lot of sites and I have to say a lot
• 21:03
  of them are garbage. They're terrible, badly crafted,
• 21:07
  hard to navigate. They don't really, I mean, so
• 21:10
  just scroll a little bit George. But I think if, if you guys, if
• 21:13
  he's the one responsible, great job.
• 21:15
  Like my hat's off to him. You know, I think your work,
• 21:17
  it's interesting because it resonates with a really, really
• 21:19
  interesting. So it's got an audience that's,
• 21:21
  you know, concerned with free speech, you know, academic
• 21:23
  freedom, you know, and of course, I would have to say
• 21:26
  perceived overreach of identity based ideologies.
• 21:29
  So it's interesting how that how that audience and how they seem
• 21:33
  to be so loyal to this topic. And yet the topics that you
• 21:37
  cover are relatively, like you said, new your timing.
• 21:41
  You know, I'd almost say you were you were Kreskin or
• 21:44
  something. You might have been a little
• 21:45
  psychic in in the coordination of.
• 21:48
  You know, I'll tell you since you brought that up.
• 21:50
  It's really funny. I was just reading the tea
• 21:52
  leaves, right? I don't think it was psychic,
• 21:55
  but I was in that when we launched New Discourses, we
• 21:58
  actually had gone to DC to be together as a group and that we
• 22:01
  plan to do a little event. So we were all at the Trump
• 22:04
  International while Trump still owned that hotel there in DC.
• 22:08
  And we put on a little event. We launched New Discourses that
• 22:11
  weekend from the hotel and then we put on a little event one
• 22:14
  evening and we had a bunch of guys, you know, some White House
• 22:18
  people, a bunch of think tank guys from DC, some Pentagon
• 22:20
  guys. And we sat and I gave a talk in
• 22:23
  front of this room of people, this very interesting motley, I
• 22:26
  mean, literally like White House high UPS, right?
• 22:29
  And Pentagon guys. And I was like in the middle, I
• 22:32
  was about CRT, You want what critical race theory is?
• 22:34
  And in the middle of it, I said that it was my guess that was in
• 22:38
  six months there would be something like the Chinese
• 22:40
  Cultural Revolution that would kick off in the United States
• 22:43
  using critical race theory. And when George Floyd died,
• 22:47
  literally 3 months to the day, three months later to the day,
• 22:51
  that's exactly what happened. And I was, I look back at that
• 22:53
  was like, holy crap, I can't believe I called that.
• 22:55
  I was really just taking a risk for some flourish and a talk
• 22:58
  there. Some people would accuse that
• 23:01
  George Floyd must have worked for you at that time period.
• 23:03
  Yeah, right. Wait a minute, George flashed on
• 23:08
  the payroll for now and all the now it's how do.
• 23:10
  You think he got that $20 bill? Exactly where was he?
• 23:14
  Where was his connect, You know, So I think it's interesting, but
• 23:18
  the titles and I, I'm not, I didn't do these in any
• 23:20
  particular order for the audience.
• 23:23
  I used the querying of the American child because I thought
• 23:25
  it was a hook. That's why I used that in the
• 23:27
  ad. But the other topics and of
• 23:29
  course your new book are just as relevant.
• 23:31
  But maybe we'll just start in the order.
• 23:33
  Yeah, that's great. Like we've got the book covered
• 23:35
  here so we can show the audience also.
• 23:38
  Let's. Start let's start there.
• 23:40
  Let's talk about that because the the difficult thing for
• 23:44
  people that do investigated jurors on it or, or or
• 23:47
  intellectually looking through massive amounts of information.
• 23:51
  You start to wonder, you start to see patterns if you have any
• 23:54
  kind of I have a moderately voted memory and you start to
• 23:56
  see things that are recurring theme and you ask yourself,
• 24:00
  well, who's behind it? What is going on here?
• 24:02
  Because we talk a lot about the woke agenda on our show and what
• 24:06
  they're doing to our children. When I look at things like Drag
• 24:09
  Queen Story Hour and I believe George, what's the guy?
• 24:13
  What's the one? The rainbow butt monkey.
• 24:15
  Rainbow butt Monkey. Oh my God, another one that if
• 24:18
  you do you remember that? Do you remember when he was
• 24:19
  reading? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:21
  Rainbow dildo. I'm sorry, the rainbow dildo
• 24:24
  butt monkey. You can never imagine how any
• 24:26
  parent would want their kids seeing that young kids.
• 24:29
  I just. Yeah, I can't either.
• 24:31
  I don't I don't know what these what's going through these
• 24:33
  parents minds like are they that dumb or just miss not know
• 24:35
  what's going on? I don't.
• 24:38
  Well, let's start here with you, James.
• 24:39
  Let's talk about this book. Great topic, great title, catchy
• 24:43
  title. And of course, this explores how
• 24:46
  children and childhood are constructed and understood in
• 24:48
  American Society through the lens of queer theory.
• 24:51
  Even that description makes me cringe.
• 24:54
  Yeah, me too. Yeah, so let's talk about this
• 24:58
  because many adult, we have a lot to people, we get a lot of
• 25:01
  feedback in our direct messaging and we put our, you know, emails
• 25:04
  out because I don't care what people send me.
• 25:05
  Of course we get a lot of death threats, but we get lots of
• 25:07
  other good stuff. And people are worried.
• 25:10
  I mean, they really don't understand why our education
• 25:12
  system has stooped to the level it is.
• 25:14
  And it seems that between Netflix and Disney and Amazon,
• 25:18
  it it's a constant session of grooming that I don't think any
• 25:22
  parent has the time to really police.
• 25:25
  Yeah, we cover the the aspect of that with the schools.
• 25:28
  We don't get into the media stuff too much in the book
• 25:31
  because it was originally a book just about education.
• 25:34
  But the idea actually of queer theory is that being normal is
• 25:38
  not acceptable. So you it is, it's in fact a
• 25:40
  form of oppression. And once you say the magic O
• 25:43
  word, enough people are now cluing in that they understand
• 25:46
  that this is probably Marxist and it is.
• 25:48
  Queer theory is Marxism built up around the idea that the people
• 25:52
  who are normal have social privileges and the people,
• 25:55
  people who are weird or abnormal or deviant or perverts or queer
• 26:01
  are restricted from social privileges.
• 26:03
  In other words, you have an oppressor versus oppressed
• 26:05
  dynamic. For the for your viewers that
• 26:07
  haven't read the Communist Manifesto like I had to do
• 26:10
  recently, the first paragraph of the 1st chapter of the Communist
• 26:14
  Manifesto says that the the basic summary of Marx's entire
• 26:19
  view of how history itself works is that it's the antagonism of
• 26:23
  the oppressed versus the oppressor.
• 26:25
  It's all class conflict all the time.
• 26:28
  So you're always trying to find some line.
• 26:30
  You draw the line, cut the population in half, and there's
• 26:32
  the good side that's oppressed by the bad side.
• 26:35
  That's always is how Marxism works.
• 26:38
  That's the first telltale sign of Marxism.
• 26:40
  And instead of using economic status like Karl Marx did with
• 26:44
  queer theory, they use, Do people consider people like you
• 26:47
  to be normal? And so the idea is to groom kids
• 26:51
  into rejecting the idea of normal to get them to act out
• 26:56
  being trans, being a minority sexuality.
• 26:59
  I would normally just say gay or bisexual, but now we have
• 27:02
  hundreds of those. You know, they're these really
• 27:05
  weird descriptions for a lot of times, very normal behavior that
• 27:09
  put them into that spectrum. So they can view themselves as a
• 27:12
  political activist, in other words, as queer.
• 27:15
  Here's an example of something normal demisexual, right?
• 27:18
  So this is one of these stupid words, you know, came out of
• 27:21
  academia, they came out of queer theory, Demisexual.
• 27:24
  What does demisexual mean? Demisexual means that you only
• 27:28
  want to have sex with people that you have feelings for,
• 27:32
  which is like being a girl, right?
• 27:34
  This is normal, girl. And a lot of guys are that way
• 27:38
  too, right? So it's a very normal thing.
• 27:40
  But no, it has to have a special term.
• 27:41
  And that's a way that you're queer.
• 27:42
  So now let's teach you what it means to be who you really are,
• 27:45
  and let's get you on this disruptive program.
• 27:48
  Queer is defined in their literature, as we explained in
• 27:50
  the book, and we quote the guy at length, the definition of
• 27:54
  queer is that it is whatever is opposed to the normal, the
• 27:59
  legitimate, or the dominant. And so just being not normal on
• 28:03
  purpose, being like a drag queen or whatever, but where that
• 28:07
  really comes from, what the big objective with that is, is to
• 28:10
  radicalize kids, to make kids feel like weirdos and outsiders
• 28:14
  who have this only they only get social value out of seeing
• 28:18
  themselves through this lens. And also to break down the bonds
• 28:21
  to their family and to their religion, which both will reject
• 28:24
  this analysis. Like you guys said, you know,
• 28:26
  you want to hear the Q word next to the child, right?
• 28:29
  It's uncomfortable. Queer theory itself is an
• 28:32
  uncomfortable name. It's hard to talk about and you
• 28:34
  think about it with children and what parent you said would you
• 28:37
  would want their kid near this? That's the idea is the parents
• 28:40
  are supposed to get upset. The kids believe this is really
• 28:42
  me. Now my parents reject me and
• 28:44
  then the cult at school accepts me.
• 28:47
  So when you switch over to the media, they're pumping it in
• 28:50
  through the media to get the kids the same way you get the
• 28:53
  kids all primed on this. Then the people at the school
• 28:55
  are like, we're your safe place. Your parents are probably not
• 28:58
  going to like this. So let's keep some secrets.
• 29:00
  Let's hide it from your parents. We're on your side.
• 29:02
  They're not and you're tearing apart the family, just like Karl
• 29:05
  Marx said again and in the Communist Manifesto said
• 29:08
  explicitly in Chapter 2 that one of his objectives was to abolish
• 29:12
  and tear apart the family. So that's, that's what this
• 29:17
  program is about. I mean, we could talk more if
• 29:19
  you want, about why the companies are doing it.
• 29:21
  The schools have been captured, though.
• 29:22
  Parents don't understand this. Well, here's something I'd like
• 29:24
  to get to because this is, you know, for a, for a person that
• 29:28
  hasn't investigated as deeply as you have, when it's any parents
• 29:31
  or family members or even us that are on social media.
• 29:35
  And let's say you're, you're looking through material.
• 29:36
  And all of a sudden there's something on TikTok where
• 29:38
  there's some guy dressed as a woman telling kids that if you
• 29:41
  can't talk to your parents, you can talk to me and you can meet
• 29:43
  me in a private chat room. You look at the grooming.
• 29:46
  So you look at the piece that's happening in the school system.
• 29:48
  And to me, it's kind of a fomented plot.
• 29:50
  Because if you look at these educational spaces and, and you
• 29:53
  know, and, and you think about the role that schools play in
• 29:56
  curriculum and reinforcing or, or, or teaching children at a
• 30:00
  time when I think, you know, you have to talk about this time as
• 30:03
  what purity and innocence, right?
• 30:04
  I mean, these are people that they're, they're, they're in
• 30:06
  their really formative years and they don't understand a lot of
• 30:08
  things and they're being funneled all this material that
• 30:11
  had it been in our schools. I went to private schools.
• 30:14
  I was pretty lucky. My parents put, you know, went
• 30:16
  out of the way to send us to private schools when I was
• 30:17
  young. Not because they had the money.
• 30:18
  They just spent all their extra money on sending us to private
• 30:21
  schools to make sure we got a good education.
• 30:23
  Public schools weren't that great in New York, so they
• 30:25
  didn't want to take that chance. But you would never have seen
• 30:28
  material like what we're seeing now, whether it's about
• 30:30
  masturbation and all these other topics, which to me is just
• 30:34
  straight up grooming. You know, children aren't, you
• 30:35
  know, can't buy a gun until they're 18.
• 30:37
  They can't vote till a certain age.
• 30:39
  Why are they being funneled this kind of information at this age
• 30:42
  when we know that they're in the formative years?
• 30:45
  It seems like it's a plan and a plot.
• 30:47
  And I always wonder who's behind the DEI, who's behind the
• 30:50
  wokeness that's happening in the educational system.
• 30:53
  I mean, you know, last night, like I told you, when we were
• 30:56
  backstage, we had somebody on talking about fluoride and how
• 30:59
  that really lowered the IQ of people and that they've proven
• 31:03
  that it directly impacts the, the, the children's brains.
• 31:07
  So clearly it was a bad idea. You know, they don't have any
• 31:09
  idea what the dosages are supposed to be.
• 31:11
  But here we are now looking at the other side of this.
• 31:13
  So now we've got the chemical issue that we're doing.
• 31:15
  I mean, like, you know, they, they made so much fun of of
• 31:20
  Infowars, you know, Alex Jones when he said it's turning the
• 31:22
  frogs gay. But at the end of the day, we
• 31:24
  take what we think is chemically happening and now you add this
• 31:27
  piece and this is so dangerous. Do you feel like there's some
• 31:30
  kind of an organization or this is a planned plot to destroy the
• 31:33
  country from within? Is this really part of this and
• 31:35
  who's funding it? Any idea?
• 31:37
  I think it is. And I've actually like, I'm, I
• 31:40
  go back and forth on how coordinated I think it is up to
• 31:43
  very, very coordinated down to much less with a bunch of
• 31:46
  independent actors taking advantage of certain
• 31:49
  circumstances. Because you talk about like the
• 31:50
  chemicals in the water. Well, think about the chemicals
• 31:53
  that you put directly into the children in the forms of
• 31:55
  psychoactive drugs like Ritalin and SSRIs and all of that stuff.
• 32:00
  So, you know, the, they've been medicating being a boy, like
• 32:04
  it's a psychiatric problem since basically when I was in high
• 32:08
  school, you know, probably started then in the 90s when the
• 32:12
  Ritalin became like what everybody had to take.
• 32:14
  Then it's now it's Adderall and then all these others.
• 32:17
  So these kids are, you know, warped out of their minds.
• 32:19
  A lot of them are on SSRIs, a lot of the girls are on hormonal
• 32:23
  birth control. All of these things are screwing
• 32:25
  with their, their brain, their chemical environment, their
• 32:28
  mental faculties, their, their mood.
• 32:30
  A lot of it's emotion driven. So there's that chemical aspect
• 32:34
  too. Just to bring it on the table.
• 32:35
  But for the, for the woke agenda, I got 1:50 answers.
• 32:38
  One answer is that what I started to say a minute ago,
• 32:42
  which is that the, the Marxists, and I don't, I don't mean this
• 32:46
  glibly. I don't mean this to be like
• 32:48
  scaremongering. I mean, literally.
• 32:49
  Marxists using this new Marxist theory we call woke had captured
• 32:54
  our colleges of education in their own telling by the early
• 32:57
  1990s. They give the date as 1992.
• 33:00
  We controlled America's colleges of education.
• 33:03
  So every teacher, every administrator, every everything
• 33:06
  after that had to go through some program, even if it's just
• 33:09
  one class or one year or some re up professional development in
• 33:13
  order to get to their job, to get their license, to get their
• 33:17
  license renewed or to get it approved from year to year.
• 33:20
  Had to get the school accredited.
• 33:22
  Had to go through an indoctrination program that
• 33:24
  involved at least some degree. You know, heavier at some
• 33:27
  places, lighter at others, of Marxist indoctrination in terms
• 33:32
  of A, how things, you know, how the world works, and B, how to
• 33:35
  teach it became Marxist brainwashing.
• 33:37
  They call it critical pedagogy, which became the dominant mode.
• 33:41
  In fact, it's the only mode of educational theory taught in
• 33:43
  colleges of education today and has been now for at least 20,
• 33:47
  but arguably almost 30 years. So you have that those people
• 33:51
  are activists who want to do this to children because they
• 33:54
  want to transform kids into being Marxist.
• 33:57
  Now there's the other side. Nothing gets off the ground like
• 34:00
  this without lots of money, without lots of institutional
• 34:02
  support. And if we're talking about the
• 34:05
  the queering of the American child specifically, not the full
• 34:07
  blast woke agenda, but it's all related really where the
• 34:11
  especially the sexualization stuff is coming from.
• 34:15
  I can give you a simple 1 acronym answer, which is UNESCO.
• 34:19
  UNESCO created the program we call Comprehensive Sexuality
• 34:22
  Education. They created it in 2003.
• 34:25
  They created it in conjunction with the International Planned
• 34:28
  Parenthood Federation and the German Guttmacher Institute,
• 34:31
  which is basically the same thing.
• 34:33
  But in Germany. They created this sexuality
• 34:37
  education that expanded what we called sex Ed, which was already
• 34:40
  controversial back in the day. They expanded sex Ed to include
• 34:44
  all kinds of new stuff, sexual citizenship, pleasure based sex
• 34:49
  education, all the gross stuff that we're looking at and
• 34:51
  thinking about today. All a lot of that gender bred
• 34:54
  person material, the gender bending curriculum, the gender
• 34:59
  Unicorn material is coming down the Pike from UNESCO.
• 35:03
  And I thought that that was the case when I was starting to do a
• 35:06
  lot of my research into this, which UNESCO is the United
• 35:09
  Nations Educational Scientific Cultural Organization.
• 35:11
  So it's a United Nations program.
• 35:14
  But I was just last year, about this time of year, I went to
• 35:16
  London and I was with some friends and we were in, you
• 35:20
  know, was at a conference and we were talking to this guy from
• 35:22
  Kenya. And so we're all talking about
• 35:24
  education because some of the people are teachers and working
• 35:26
  in parent organizations in our little circle that we're
• 35:29
  standing and talking. And the Kenyan guy's like, oh,
• 35:31
  you should see what we have in Kenya's schools.
• 35:33
  We have all this sex stuff. We have all the sexualization
• 35:35
  stuff. And it's this and it's that, and
• 35:36
  there's a gender this. And he's saying all the same
• 35:40
  stuff we have here. You could say, you know, I like
• 35:42
  to use the example, for whatever reason, it's like what they
• 35:44
  teach in New Jersey, they're also teaching in Kenya with
• 35:47
  regard to this. Why in the hell is it in Kenya,
• 35:50
  right? And then you realize Kenya is a
• 35:52
  major United Nations in UNESCO member state.
• 35:55
  That's why it's in Kenya, It's in all of them.
• 35:58
  It's in every single country that signs up for the UNESCO
• 36:01
  program for their education. And so you can guess then that
• 36:05
  that's where you're getting pretty close to the head of the
• 36:08
  snake. But it's coming down from major
• 36:12
  international organizations that believe that their job is to
• 36:15
  transform children into what they call global citizens and
• 36:19
  that this disruption to their development is necessary to make
• 36:23
  them something different, which is classic communism in a new
• 36:26
  form. So, you know, I think it's
• 36:28
  coordinated. When you think about the power
• 36:30
  that the United Nation has here in our own country, they're
• 36:33
  fortunate I'm not the president of the United States.
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  They'd have 30 days to move out of their facility in New York
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  and never come back. I don't think Trump's agenda.
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  Yeah, I don't like their agenda. I don't like what they're doing
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  at the border. All right, that music means
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  we're going to take a short break.
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  When we come back, we'll be here with James Lindsay.
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  We'll be talking more about. But we're really going to get
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  fence and they would be shooting between the bamboo at the
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  buildings, you know, just shooting inside.
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  The Wanted man is Joseph Kony, charged with abducting huge
• 39:26
  numbers of children, forcing them to kill and mutilate
• 39:29
  innocent victims. Somebody had to pay the price.
• 39:32
  Sam did that. Sam Childers never stopped,
• 39:35
  because the bad things never stop.
• 39:38
  There is only one Sam Childer. There is no one else like him in
• 39:42
  the world. And I said to him, I said.
• 39:44
  Would you go? Now to get Kony in the Congo.
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  He says without a doubt. In a second, now it's the DRC.
• 39:50
  Tell us what's happening to children in the DRC.
• 39:53
  You have ISIS there, you have Islamic State and you have ADF.
• 39:57
  Hey, Sandy. Joseph Kony's still alive.
• 39:59
  He's in the Congo. And now God has me in the Congo,
• 40:02
  you know, So hopefully we'll meet up one day.
• 40:06
  But maybe I can lead him to the Lord or send him there.
• 40:10
  One or the other, huh? All right, welcome back to the
• 40:30
  big, big show. Here we host George Valentin,
• 40:32
  Lance Migliaccio, and our guests, badass author James
• 40:37
  Lindsay. I'm going to call him the Mad
• 40:39
  Troller now too, because he just trolled them and he got him
• 40:43
  pretty good. I got to say, that's a.
• 40:44
  That's a beast of a. Troll troll.
• 40:46
  That's like 1. Of them Trump trolls.
• 40:47
  He does. You know, like that was.
• 40:48
  Like a but that was like a sophisticated troll.
• 40:51
  That wasn't just throwing out a meme.
• 40:52
  That was that was very sophisticated.
• 40:54
  That was an operation. That was that was troll OP when
• 40:57
  you know. You would think something the
• 40:59
  way he did it. He did have like other people in
• 41:01
  the mix of it helping him, this and that.
• 41:02
  He was a one man show. Would you expect anything less?
• 41:05
  Would you expect anything less from a map of the petition with
• 41:07
  PhD? Wouldn't you expect that his
• 41:09
  trolling would be sophisticated? Yeah, what we're talking about
• 41:11
  here. I mean, kudos.
• 41:17
  We got some some lowbrow stuff. Well, let's.
• 41:19
  Jump into your next book, James just, and I think for the
• 41:23
  audience, you know, some of this, you're like, well, what
• 41:25
  the heck does this mean for me? Well, I think what it means for
• 41:27
  you is that you really ought to be paying attention to what's
• 41:29
  going on in the school system. You, you really ought to read
• 41:32
  James Lindsay's books. Maybe you maybe it might be
• 41:35
  content might be a little deep for you at first glance, but the
• 41:38
  idea would be that you'd understand that this is an
• 41:40
  extremely organized plan to corrupt our children.
• 41:44
  This is not just some, you know, they, they're just doing, oh,
• 41:47
  they made a mistake. They put that book in the
• 41:48
  library about masturbation. That was just an error.
• 41:51
  No, it's not. It's all part of it.
• 41:53
  This grooming is going on. You know, it's going on on
• 41:56
  social media. It's all over TikTok.
• 41:58
  It's all over lots of the big, you know, media companies like
• 42:02
  Netflix and and Amazon. If you look at the show and
• 42:06
  movies on there, it's it's hard to find a movie that doesn't
• 42:09
  have some of this garbage in it anymore.
• 42:11
  And I assume it's because of the funding sources require a
• 42:14
  certain amount of this crap to be pumped into them.
• 42:16
  So let's talk about your next book.
• 42:19
  Let's go into the details of kind of where this started and
• 42:22
  and why you felt like this was important to get out.
• 42:25
  Yeah, I mean, education is, is honestly, it's like this weird
• 42:28
  issue people always forget about, but it's really the most
• 42:31
  important issue because, like, if we fix everything else, let's
• 42:34
  say that Trump has a magic wand and can wave the magic wand and
• 42:36
  fix everything wrong with our country right now, which even if
• 42:40
  that's not going to happen, right, if he gets 20% of
• 42:42
  everything, that'd be astonishingly good, right?
• 42:46
  But imagine he could fix it all. Except that we don't fix the
• 42:49
  schools, right? So in 10 years, all of the
• 42:52
  graduates coming out of the schools are going to put us
• 42:55
  right back in the same position again.
• 42:57
  And within 20 years that's we're right back where we are now.
• 43:00
  We're all the way back in trouble again.
• 43:02
  Even if Trump could fix it all with a magic wand way beyond,
• 43:05
  you know, like what he can actually do with his powers as
• 43:07
  president up against a hostile Congress and whatever else.
• 43:11
  So education is a really important issue.
• 43:14
  And So what I was hearing and what I was studying was that,
• 43:17
  and I hear this, I work with the grassroots organizations
• 43:20
  primarily. So I'm always down on the
• 43:23
  ground. I'm always working with everyday
• 43:25
  Americans, moms and dads. Well, sometimes they're
• 43:27
  Canadians and sometimes they're Japanese or whatever.
• 43:29
  But everyday people on the ground trying to solve real
• 43:32
  problems at their local community level, at the state
• 43:35
  level, whatever it is. I do a little bit in DC, but I'm
• 43:38
  mostly work on the ground and I'm talking to these people and
• 43:41
  that, you know, they're like, I can't figure figure it out.
• 43:43
  I can't figure out how they're getting the CRT in the schools.
• 43:45
  I can't figure out how they're getting the sexual.
• 43:47
  I don't know why it's there. Doesn't make sense to me.
• 43:50
  And it's one thing to sit up at the higher level and say, well,
• 43:54
  it's Marxism and they have an agenda.
• 43:56
  But it's another thing to say, here's how the magic trick is
• 43:58
  performed. Here's how they are actually
• 44:00
  stealing your children's education so that you and you
• 44:02
  can't see it. And so this was that book
• 44:05
  Marxification of Education explains the role of a British
• 44:10
  or sorry, a Brazilian Marxist named Paulo Fredi in his
• 44:13
  creation of what became called critical pedagogy and how it
• 44:17
  works. It's, it's just his methodology,
• 44:19
  which is like I told you a little bit ago, the dominant
• 44:22
  methodology in all colleges of education now hands down the
• 44:26
  most important methodology that they all teach.
• 44:28
  And it amounts to stealing education.
• 44:31
  So it's not this, it's not always as an overt as some of
• 44:36
  the stuff that we see where the drag queen or the monkey butt or
• 44:39
  whatever it is. A lot of times what they do is
• 44:42
  they, they, what Paulo Freidi called it is, and this is fancy
• 44:46
  big words we don't have to dwell on, but he said that the
• 44:49
  academic material is a mediator to political knowledge.
• 44:52
  And so the idea is that the math lesson, the reading lesson,
• 44:56
  history lesson, whatever the subject of the study or some
• 45:00
  word in the in the paragraph or in the word problem, if it's a
• 45:04
  math problem, is used as a setup to have a political,
• 45:07
  radicalizing political conversation with your kids.
• 45:09
  And I'll give you an actual example from a math problem.
• 45:12
  This is a real example from the state of Indiana and a real
• 45:14
  teacher training. I'm not making this up.
• 45:16
  This was given to me by a teacher who went through the
• 45:18
  training. And this is a word problem for
• 45:21
  second graders. So you don't have to fret about
• 45:22
  the math. But it's Johnny's riding in the
• 45:25
  car with his with his mom and dad on the way to the amusement
• 45:28
  park. The amusement park is 50 miles
• 45:30
  away, and they've driven 30 miles so far.
• 45:33
  How much further do they have to go?
• 45:34
  And so obviously as a math teacher, I would tell you what
• 45:36
  you're going to do is we're going to teach the kids to pull
• 45:38
  the subtraction problem out of the words, show them where the
• 45:40
  subtraction problem is, solve the subtraction problem, and
• 45:43
  then say they have 20 miles to go.
• 45:45
  Right, No big deal. Well, here's what critical
• 45:49
  pedagogy does. The word problem is do me a.
• 45:51
  Favor let me just give the audience, 'cause you, you, you
• 45:54
  used that word a couple of times.
• 45:55
  I'm not sure 'cause it's an unusual word.
• 45:57
  I really didn't become familiar with it until I started reading
• 45:59
  your material. That's the method and practices
• 46:01
  of the that the teacher uses you guys.
• 46:03
  So, you know, and it's how they. Approach the teaching.
• 46:05
  Style, you know, and it relates to different theories, so yeah.
• 46:08
  Go ahead. Go from there.
• 46:09
  No, No thanks. Yeah, pedagogy means theory and
• 46:11
  practice of education. So what the what it teaches is
• 46:17
  that you're going to take some word in that word problem and
• 46:20
  that's going to be your reason, your excuse, your mediator, so
• 46:23
  to speak to a political conversation meant to radicalize
• 46:27
  people in the class. And so there are three of those
• 46:30
  in that little word problem. That's if you saw that in your
• 46:32
  kids homework, you would never blink, right?
• 46:34
  You'd never think there's anything wrong.
• 46:36
  So what you know, what's the big deal?
• 46:38
  Johnny's riding in the car with his mom and dad on the way to an
• 46:41
  amusement park. Well, the teachers are being
• 46:42
  taught to engage the students by saying, hey, how many of you
• 46:47
  guys have ever been to an amusement park?
• 46:49
  And then some kids, they're seven years old, if it's second
• 46:51
  grade, are going to raise their hand.
• 46:52
  And some kids won't. They're seven, right?
• 46:54
  So not every kid at 7 years old is going to go there.
• 46:56
  So now you found a difference. And once you find a difference,
• 47:00
  now you have something you can exploit for political
• 47:02
  radicalization. And the teachers taught to say
• 47:04
  something like, wow, some of you guys have been, but not
• 47:07
  everybody has. That's not fair.
• 47:09
  And so now you've got their emotions about fairness.
• 47:12
  If I got to go. And oppressed.
• 47:14
  Here it comes. Just right there, right,
• 47:16
  oppressor and oppressed. And then you're supposed to say,
• 47:19
  how could you know? How could we make it more fair?
• 47:23
  And then you just let the kids say whatever kids say one after
• 47:26
  you call on them until somebody says something like it should be
• 47:30
  free. And then all of a sudden you
• 47:34
  start talking about, well, the government could, you know, pay
• 47:36
  for the amusement parks so everybody could go.
• 47:38
  And now you've got socialism on the table and you got the kids
• 47:41
  seeing that what you have in in real life is not fair.
• 47:45
  But if we had a socialist government making the amusement
• 47:47
  park free, if it if we nationalized the the amusement
• 47:50
  parks, then it would be more fair.
• 47:53
  And you can do this. It turns out there were three
• 47:55
  different radicalizing points within that.
• 47:58
  And you can take each one a different way.
• 47:59
  With amusement park, you could say, wow, some of your some of
• 48:02
  you get to go and some don't. Is that because your parents
• 48:05
  won't let you go? And now you get to set up a
• 48:07
  dynamic against the parents. Oh, wow.
• 48:09
  Well, maybe the school should decide instead of the parents
• 48:11
  who gets to go to an amusement park.
• 48:12
  Wouldn't that be more fair kids, right.
• 48:14
  And so, but also obviously mom and dad.
• 48:17
  Do all families have a mom and dad guys or car?
• 48:20
  Is it really a healthy use of the environment?
• 48:22
  Think about science classes. Is it good for the environment
• 48:25
  to drive in the car 50 miles just to go to the amusement
• 48:28
  park? This, this, this, this, this.
• 48:33
  It's gotten really complicated. This one this one equation.
• 48:37
  But this is what they're talking.
• 48:38
  About I mean, when you think about I'm sure they're going to
• 48:41
  run out and want to name one of the amusement parks Joe Biden
• 48:44
  land. I'm sure we're going to have
• 48:45
  that, you know, that way he can have I'm.
• 48:47
  Trying to put a statue up of him while.
• 48:50
  Unlimited child sniffing. But you think about it, the the
• 48:52
  problem is just supposed to be math.
• 48:54
  And now they've turned it into this complete, you know, weapon.
• 48:58
  Really. I mean, is that not what it
• 48:59
  isn't? Can I ask you, are there manuals
• 49:01
  that they receive that that's the way they're supposed to
• 49:03
  craft these questions? They get a bunch of tips on how
• 49:06
  to manipulate. So these manuals, who's printing
• 49:09
  these manuals? Who's responsible?
• 49:10
  Where do those come from? Is that the Board of Education,
• 49:13
  the incredible, the incredible, illustrious Board of Education?
• 49:17
  Is that them? Sometimes, but probably not for
• 49:21
  the most part, the schools know they're going to get caught and
• 49:23
  that parents aren't going to appreciate this.
• 49:25
  Especially in the last few years.
• 49:27
  A lot of that stuff is now provided by third party private
• 49:31
  entities, which will either be nonprofits or companies that
• 49:34
  produce these materials and then contract with the school.
• 49:36
  Because it turns out that if you FOIA the school or if you as a
• 49:40
  parent go and ask the teacher to see the teacher's manual,
• 49:43
  they'll say that's copyrighted information and I can't give you
• 49:46
  a copy of it. And they that will hold up in
• 49:49
  court. So they can hide it even better
• 49:50
  by using third party proprietary material.
• 49:53
  So most of it's now provided by nonprofits and by private
• 49:57
  companies. Now, what I think is that that's
• 49:59
  a very easy legal fix, which is all you need is a transparency
• 50:02
  law that says if it's used in a school, anybody who is a direct
• 50:05
  stakeholder in the school, like a parent or, you know, a
• 50:09
  journalist looking at it has the right to see it.
• 50:13
  If it's used in the school, it's transparent and these third
• 50:16
  party proprietary laws no longer apply.
• 50:18
  You forfeit that right once you bring it into the school.
• 50:20
  That's a very simple fix, but no states are taking that action
• 50:23
  yet. I recommended it to the USDOE,
• 50:27
  to the transition team specifically, so hopefully
• 50:30
  they'll take it up and be able to do something.
• 50:32
  Great, If you were on that transition team, because I think
• 50:35
  you know what steps need to be taken by educators and policy
• 50:38
  makers, you know, to restore education, focus on knowledge
• 50:42
  versus whatever the hell we would call this.
• 50:44
  It's not. It's not what I would want.
• 50:46
  It's called brainwashing is what it's called.
• 50:48
  Yeah, there's no. Doubt you and.
• 50:50
  And we talk about that a lot in our show.
• 50:52
  We, you know, let me just top one thing here.
• 50:54
  And, and you see it when you look at certain topics, you
• 50:57
  know, and especially during when everybody was campaigning, you
• 51:01
  could see the, the plan when they would release information,
• 51:04
  it would start maybe in DC and then it would quickly work its
• 51:07
  way through Washington Post, New York Times, New York Post, you
• 51:11
  know, and then, of course, right onto the social media
• 51:14
  influencers, they're paying and the celebrities they were paying
• 51:16
  and the musicians they're paying.
• 51:17
  And you know, whether they're paying Oprah to give what she
• 51:21
  act like was an independent town hall, not realizing she'd be
• 51:23
  paid $10 million to do it. But it's the same thing.
• 51:26
  It almost seems like we look at education.
• 51:28
  Can you compare it? Is, is it the same?
• 51:30
  Are we, are we seeing these massive amounts of money that
• 51:33
  when they want to manipulate it and push it in the direction and
• 51:35
  UNESCO decides there's a policy, is the money foundation money?
• 51:38
  Where does the money come from? What organizations are back in
• 51:41
  this besides UNESCO? Most of its foundation money.
• 51:44
  Bill and Melinda Gates pour literally billions into this.
• 51:48
  The Bill and Miller Gates Foundation, Chan Zuckerberg
• 51:51
  Initiative put a lot of money into this at different times.
• 51:54
  The Tides Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation have put
• 51:57
  a lot of money into education. I mean, Rockefeller goes way
• 52:01
  back doing this. I mean, they're, they are, I
• 52:03
  think, the first philanthropic organization that dumped lots of
• 52:06
  money into education to kind of twist its purposes, I mean, 100
• 52:10
  years ago, more than 100 years ago.
• 52:11
  And so, yeah, a lot of its big foundation money.
• 52:14
  And I'm sure there are others. You know, open society probably
• 52:17
  does some of this to a degree do.
• 52:19
  You think foundations are paying organizations like TikTok for
• 52:23
  example? I believe TikTok is really
• 52:25
  created to corrupt our youth in a lot of different ways and
• 52:28
  dummify America. We know that TikTok in China
• 52:31
  doesn't look like anything like the TikTok here in the United
• 52:33
  States. Do you think these foundations
• 52:34
  are funneling money into social media also?
• 52:37
  They very well maybe, I don't know.
• 52:39
  I know that they are more likely for certain.
• 52:41
  I would know that they're paying are more certain.
• 52:44
  I don't I couldn't name names, but that I mean you've named
• 52:47
  some already that they're paying influencers to make sure that
• 52:49
  that material is there. But as far as how the algorithm
• 52:52
  is is organized, it's plausible there are other mechanisms there
• 52:56
  too, like they're the company's ESG scores will prioritize.
• 53:00
  If they do this, then the score goes up.
• 53:02
  They have more access to short term capital and all the stuff
• 53:04
  that businesses need to run. They get favourable interest
• 53:06
  rates. They don't get delisted so
• 53:08
  they're public traded stock is worth more blah blah blah.
• 53:12
  This index fund manipulation through ESG is one of the
• 53:14
  primary ways, as is ESG is environmental social governance
• 53:18
  policies for companies. The social stands for social
• 53:21
  justice, so the companies have to be social justice compliant
• 53:24
  in order to have an ESG score that's worth anything.
• 53:27
  Yeah, we. Saw that with the funding
• 53:28
  sources they manipulated, they had lots of policies that there
• 53:31
  had to be a certain amount of the money that was, you know,
• 53:34
  raised by corporations, had to be put into DEI, had to be put
• 53:39
  into. And we saw that.
• 53:41
  So really, really, you know, prevalent during the pandemic.
• 53:45
  It seemed like they really upped the ante during that time period
• 53:48
  'cause I think they figured they had kind of a captive audience
• 53:51
  that was watching a lot of media, and that was the time to
• 53:53
  double down. You know I want to make.
• 53:55
  Sure. About a president worth assault,
• 53:57
  then let me just say real quick, that's got a name.
• 54:00
  And a president worth assault with a good Department of
• 54:02
  Justice behind him could, could push on that.
• 54:04
  That's called racketeering is what that's called.
• 54:06
  It doesn't matter if you're using, you know, guns or if
• 54:08
  you're using financial capital or clout.
• 54:11
  That's racketeering by these big passive investment firms.
• 54:15
  Yeah, concurrent criminal enterprise, you know, and, and,
• 54:18
  and if you trace, trace the dollars down and look at three
• 54:20
  or more or five or more individuals, that's how you get
• 54:22
  to that racketeering charge. And I do agree with you.
• 54:24
  It doesn't have to be, you know, force at the end of the day,
• 54:29
  money is just as big a weapon when it comes to organizations
• 54:32
  like that. And I do believe what I'm
• 54:33
  noticing is that a lot of the the worst of the sharks are, are
• 54:37
  trying to pool around and school around the administration.
• 54:41
  We've already seen Zuckerberg and and and Gates trying to
• 54:44
  wedge their way in to make sure they're not on the target list.
• 54:47
  I heard today, I had to jump on it the second it happened that
• 54:51
  Biden's got this theory that he can the people that are
• 54:54
  potentially targeted by Trump, you know, and we can think of so
• 54:57
  many of them. He's going to give pre emptive,
• 55:00
  you know, which I'm still trying to figure this out.
• 55:03
  Pre emptive presidential pardons, somewhat like what he
• 55:06
  gave Hunter that Hunter has. The way that was written, it was
• 55:09
  like an envelope pardon. That said, he was clear of
• 55:13
  anything he'd basically done from 2014 Ford.
• 55:15
  Now, I don't know how you do that.
• 55:16
  I don't know how you get a pre emptive pardon, but I offered to
• 55:18
  give pre emptive pardons the second.
• 55:20
  Blanket pardons. Yeah, well, but now he's talking
• 55:23
  about preemptive pardons and the fact that and, and there's only
• 55:26
  a blanket pardon. Preemptive would basically mean
• 55:28
  you haven't been charged yet, you haven't been found.
• 55:30
  They haven't even, you know, discussed it with you, what you
• 55:32
  might have done. And he's talking about the
• 55:34
  people that Trump he's going to give those.
• 55:35
  I, I, I did that today. I volunteered to get everybody
• 55:37
  on XA preemptive pardon. And I mentioned that let let the
• 55:40
  crime wave begin. He bypassed, he bypassed the
• 55:43
  pardon office on this on on that pardon for his son.
• 55:46
  He didn't even bring it to him, ask him about it.
• 55:48
  He just did it himself. All the other pardons, he's
• 55:50
  done, done. He brought like he let the
• 55:52
  office handle it. So I mean, yeah.
• 55:55
  Remember, his big line was nobody's above the law, and a
• 55:58
  preemptive pardon would literally make somebody above
• 56:01
  the law he. Don't care.
• 56:02
  He he, he didn't win his election, he didn't run.
• 56:05
  We don't care at this point. But the theory of it, you know,
• 56:08
  you take the rule of law and you might as well just flush it down
• 56:11
  the toilet. My theory, my, my statement on
• 56:13
  that is, OK, well, if everybody's, if everybody that
• 56:16
  was guilty of crimes against the United States and we're talking
• 56:18
  about treason, seditious conspiracy, you know, we're
• 56:22
  talking about some pretty serious charges.
• 56:23
  If that's the case, Well, I want my preemptive pardon and I want
• 56:26
  a lifetime preemptive pardon. So that way I can just go on a
• 56:28
  crime wave and do whatever I want because it's basically what
• 56:31
  he's offering these people. He's offering the ability to do
• 56:34
  whatever they want. Let's let's switch gears.
• 56:36
  Let's go up to, and I think this is important because I want to
• 56:38
  make sure I don't want to run out of time here.
• 56:40
  And I want to talk about race Marxism and I want to talk about
• 56:43
  what's going on with this because I think this is really
• 56:46
  this goes hand in hand with your your other book.
• 56:50
  You should have just put book 1 and book 2 because I think these
• 56:52
  are so well connected. They should have just been it
• 56:55
  should have been two point O or one point O.
• 56:57
  But let's talk about this book, James.
• 57:00
  Yeah, so race Marxism, the the it's my book about critical race
• 57:03
  theory. This is my longest and hardest
• 57:05
  book. It it really, you know, peels
• 57:08
  back the curtain of critical race theory plus all the in the
• 57:12
  middle of the it's got 6 chapters, the middle 2 chapters
• 57:15
  3 and 4 go way back and explain the whole philosophy, where it
• 57:19
  came from going, you know, back to the German idealists and all
• 57:23
  this fancy philosophical stuff. A lot of people don't don't know
• 57:27
  and understand, but the goal was to explain what critical race
• 57:30
  theory is to people. And the title tells you what it
• 57:32
  is, race Marxism. It's Marxism that uses race
• 57:36
  instead of class. And I gave a lecture series in
• 57:40
  summer in July of 21 down in Tampa, FL and I decided to take
• 57:45
  my notes and flush them out into a book.
• 57:49
  And the book is race Marxism. So what is critical race theory?
• 57:54
  It's race Marxism. Where did it come from?
• 57:56
  Tell the history. Tell the history deeper.
• 57:58
  Tell the history deeper. The Neo Marxists, the Marxists
• 58:00
  before them, the German idealists before that, the
• 58:03
  Rousseau, French Romanticists before that, and deep dive the
• 58:08
  whole thing and then talk about how it works and what we might
• 58:11
  do about it here in the United States.
• 58:12
  You know how basically, you know, we have the in the 14th
• 58:17
  amendment, we have this thing inside the 14th Amendment that
• 58:20
  called the equal protection clause.
• 58:21
  It says that the laws are going to be applied equally to all
• 58:25
  citizens of the United States. And we don't have an equity
• 58:28
  protection clause, right? We don't have this thing that
• 58:30
  says we're going to make sure all the outcomes are equal for
• 58:32
  all the people in the United States.
• 58:34
  We say that the laws are going to be applied equally, not that
• 58:36
  we're going to adjust outcomes to make people equal.
• 58:39
  And that right there got subverted, not specifically with
• 58:44
  the passage of the Civil Rights Act, although that gets more
• 58:47
  complicated as we get into the 90s.
• 58:49
  It got subverted right after the Civil Rights Acts.
• 58:52
  So the Civil Rights Acts were most famously, obviously, in
• 58:55
  1964. There's another one in 6568.
• 58:59
  And then in 1971, you have a court case called Griggs versus
• 59:03
  Duke Power. And this was the Duke Power
• 59:06
  Company had a test to get into management.
• 59:09
  So if you worked on the floor and you wanted to get into
• 59:11
  management, you had to pass this test.
• 59:13
  And it turned out that proportionally speaking, white
• 59:16
  people pass the test at a higher rate than black people did at
• 59:19
  the power company. So somebody sued and said it was
• 59:21
  discriminatory to have this test.
• 59:23
  And they looked up and down, hard discovery everywhere they
• 59:26
  could look and find no evidence of any racial bias or animus
• 59:30
  anywhere in Duke Power Company. It was just a test.
• 59:33
  And it just happened to be that for whatever reason, that white
• 59:37
  people were passing it more often than black people were.
• 59:40
  And the court and its lack of wisdom, the Supreme Court
• 59:43
  decided that if there is disparate impact, meaning that
• 59:48
  there's a different proportion and inequity is the modern
• 59:52
  language for that in something like hiring or admissions, then
• 59:56
  there must be discrimination somewhere, even if you can't
• 59:59
  prove intent to discriminate or can't prove discrimination is
• 1:00:02
  anywhere. So if there's a difference in
• 1:00:04
  outcomes, there must be discrimination.
• 1:00:06
  And it became legally actionable.
• 1:00:08
  Under civil rights law, and that was 1971, so just 3-4 years
• 1:00:12
  after the civil rights acts really get going, you have this
• 1:00:15
  going on, perverting it. So now that it's, it's equity,
• 1:00:19
  it's affirmative action is what it actually is.
• 1:00:22
  No longer I, you know, equal protection under the law.
• 1:00:26
  So the act, the equal protection clause died with Griggs versus
• 1:00:29
  Duke power. This got backed up more or
• 1:00:32
  increased more under a couple of cases, most famously probably
• 1:00:36
  Baki versus Board of Regents of the state of California in 1978,
• 1:00:40
  which was the same thing basically for college
• 1:00:42
  admissions. And they said there's a
• 1:00:44
  compelling educational advantage to a diverse campus.
• 1:00:47
  So the diversity industry comes into being.
• 1:00:50
  Then Baki versus Board of Regents has mostly been
• 1:00:54
  overturned with the Harvard discrimination lawsuit in the
• 1:00:56
  UNC discrimination lawsuits from last year, Griggs versus Duke
• 1:01:01
  Power still going strong. And in the early 90s, I forget,
• 1:01:04
  91 or three, something like that, they actually wrote a new
• 1:01:07
  Civil Rights Act that puts the disparate impact logic directly
• 1:01:11
  into the federal statute, which means they have a
• 1:01:13
  unconstitutional piece of civil rights legislation from the 90s
• 1:01:17
  that needs to be brought. You know, a suit needs to be
• 1:01:21
  brought, needs to land in front of the Supreme Court and needs
• 1:01:22
  to be declared unconstitutional. In order for us to get out of
• 1:01:25
  this mess, we have to start treating all people equally.
• 1:01:30
  A lot of conservatives don't understand this.
• 1:01:32
  They think, well, the Civil Rights Act is the problem, so we
• 1:01:34
  got to get rid of the Civil Rights Act.
• 1:01:35
  No, we need Civil Rights Act reform because there's no better
• 1:01:39
  weapon against this woke stuff. If they're discriminating
• 1:01:41
  against white people using an affirmative action or diversity,
• 1:01:44
  equity and inclusion program, the lawsuit is a civil rights
• 1:01:48
  lawsuit. That's going to going to turn
• 1:01:49
  that back over and it becomes the most potent weapon, legal
• 1:01:53
  weapon in our hands if we get the equal protection clause back
• 1:01:58
  on the table and get this disparate impact equity crap out
• 1:02:02
  of the out the door. And that's, I mean, I'm not
• 1:02:05
  joking. That's literally 1 smart Supreme
• 1:02:07
  Court decision away from happening.
• 1:02:10
  That's all it would take. You know, I think I've got your
• 1:02:12
  next big troll move here. And we had Sabo, the artist, he
• 1:02:16
  works in bronze. We get a bunch of these books
• 1:02:18
  made-up in bronze, and we go around and we start gluing them
• 1:02:21
  to all the George Floyd sculptures and statues around
• 1:02:24
  the country. And I don't know if you saw the
• 1:02:26
  Pelosi desk that they have on the National Mall right now that
• 1:02:29
  somebody decided was a great idea and somebody looks like
• 1:02:31
  they defecated on the Pelosi desk.
• 1:02:33
  Have you seen that? But we glue this right to the
• 1:02:35
  front of that. That way it actually has some
• 1:02:37
  real value versus what it is right now.
• 1:02:39
  I think that's your next big troll move.
• 1:02:41
  We put this book everywhere all over the country as a bronze add
• 1:02:44
  on to all the George Floyd statues.
• 1:02:46
  But. I didn't.
• 1:02:47
  You know what a big argument. In bronze, but I left one on the
• 1:02:50
  George Floyd monument in Minneapolis last year.
• 1:02:53
  Did you take a picture? No, I I meant took a picture.
• 1:02:55
  Come on. James that was gone viral.
• 1:02:59
  Yeah. So I ran up to the I ran up to
• 1:03:01
  the monument. Everybody told me I was going to
• 1:03:02
  get killed for going to the George Floyd Square.
• 1:03:04
  And they were like, what's your security?
• 1:03:05
  You got to have security. And I was like, why?
• 1:03:07
  I'm planning to go at 8:00 in the morning.
• 1:03:08
  And then they were like, you don't need insecurity, never
• 1:03:10
  mind you're. Fine, yeah.
• 1:03:12
  There was no. Great mind stink alike,
• 1:03:13
  obviously. I didn't know you'd done that.
• 1:03:15
  So, I mean, it wasn't bronze. That's the only place I've ever
• 1:03:18
  visited where I wanted to do some real civil disobedience and
• 1:03:20
  go rent a bulldozer and just knock the thing down.
• 1:03:23
  It's terrible. I mean, if you look at the guy's
• 1:03:25
  history and who he really was and look at the number of drugs
• 1:03:28
  in his system, and I think that was a real injustice.
• 1:03:29
  I don't think that police officer, you know, I'm not
• 1:03:32
  suggesting he was a good guy or bad guy.
• 1:03:34
  I'm suggesting that what happened to him was on just as
• 1:03:36
  unsavory as what's happened to the J sex fed surrection
• 1:03:40
  defendants. So, but I'm going to ask.
• 1:03:43
  You this this is a recurring thing that happens over and over
• 1:03:45
  again when it comes to critical race theory.
• 1:03:48
  How do you respond to those people that go CRT is necessary
• 1:03:51
  tool for addressing systemic racism?
• 1:03:54
  What do you say to them? Marxism has never solved any
• 1:03:57
  problems. It only makes those problems
• 1:03:58
  worse. And if you think you know it's
• 1:04:00
  going to help some racial minorities, you should look at
• 1:04:02
  the history of communism. And it's working with racial
• 1:04:03
  minorities because what it does is it uses them and it makes it
• 1:04:07
  always uses them and makes their situation worse and then uses
• 1:04:10
  the problems it causes to push it further.
• 1:04:12
  And if I'm talking, usually if I'm talking to somebody who's
• 1:04:14
  racial minority, I'm like, read Manning Johnson.
• 1:04:17
  A lot of people don't know who Manning Johnson was.
• 1:04:19
  Manning Johnson was like one of the black leaders of the
• 1:04:21
  Communist Party USA in the 30s and 40s.
• 1:04:24
  And he figured out that they were using him.
• 1:04:27
  They figured he figured out that it was all evil, it was all
• 1:04:29
  crap, it was all lies. And he wrote, he wrote a book in
• 1:04:33
  the 1950s explaining this whole thing.
• 1:04:35
  So, you know, don't take it from me.
• 1:04:37
  Go read Manning Johnson reporting on how they how they
• 1:04:40
  were still super racist, how they used black people, how they
• 1:04:44
  made the situation for the black communities that they came into
• 1:04:47
  worse and then exploited the problems they created like
• 1:04:52
  they're doing now. Look at what they've done, you
• 1:04:54
  know, defund the police. Well, a lot of crime happens to
• 1:04:57
  be in in neighborhoods that are predominantly minority or black
• 1:05:01
  or sometimes Latino. And then what?
• 1:05:03
  What are they doing? Well, now we need to do, you
• 1:05:04
  know, we've got this huge crime problem.
• 1:05:06
  So now we have to have all the surveillance cameras.
• 1:05:08
  We have to have all this other stuff, you know, so they create
• 1:05:11
  the problem so that they can justify putting in more
• 1:05:13
  communism off of the pain that they cause in people's lives.
• 1:05:18
  You know, George, I'm going to throw this to you for a minute
• 1:05:20
  because we talk about this a lot on the show.
• 1:05:22
  We always talk about the the real tool because we believe
• 1:05:25
  it's a unit party in DC. Our show is unique in the fact
• 1:05:28
  that we go after both sides of the aisle on the show.
• 1:05:31
  I'm not comfortable with what either the Democrats or the
• 1:05:33
  Republicans do because I feel like one side is effectively
• 1:05:36
  trying to destroy us. Why?
• 1:05:37
  The other side stomps their feet, makes a bunch of noise,
• 1:05:40
  holds committees and then does nothing with it.
• 1:05:42
  We don't really have any accountability and consequences,
• 1:05:44
  but you know, George, we've talked about so many times that
• 1:05:47
  what they're causing is intentional division and chaos.
• 1:05:54
  Intentional division and chaos. Yeah, Well, I mean, how many
• 1:05:58
  times we discussed that on this show that what they do on the
• 1:06:00
  left, We, we just. Try to create.
• 1:06:03
  Division A unified America is 300 million deep.
• 1:06:06
  You see that just on social media and we'll just take X for
• 1:06:09
  that instinct. There's there's paid
• 1:06:11
  infiltrators that, you know, all of a sudden they're in the
• 1:06:14
  movement and also matter against certain people and you know,
• 1:06:16
  they're getting paid. They just want to create chaos.
• 1:06:19
  Why? Because that creates division.
• 1:06:20
  And what does that do? It makes us weaker.
• 1:06:24
  So either just call them out, get rid of them.
• 1:06:26
  But there's that old saying, Together, stronger, we're
• 1:06:31
  united. So that brings me, I think that
• 1:06:36
  this, I hope I've got this in the right order.
• 1:06:38
  James Counter Woke Craft. That's your new book, correct?
• 1:06:41
  No, no, no. The the the Queering in the
• 1:06:43
  American Child's the newest one, Counter Woke Craft was actually
• 1:06:47
  a fairly early book that another guy, Canadian guy, wrote for
• 1:06:51
  him. He wrote it and he wrote it for
• 1:06:53
  me and, and then he used a lot of my work to write it and then
• 1:06:57
  I helped him edit it into the final form.
• 1:06:59
  And he says, like I said, he's a, he's a Canadian university
• 1:07:02
  professor and he wanted to figure out how to how to solve
• 1:07:05
  the problem of DEI commissions and things in to solve that in
• 1:07:12
  in universities and other institutional settings.
• 1:07:14
  So he wrote kind of a how to guide how to fight back against
• 1:07:19
  that in these institutional settings.
• 1:07:20
  It's probably not going to help the average dude, you know, at
• 1:07:23
  his, at his, you know, small business or whatever, his
• 1:07:26
  management meeting or whatever. But if you're in some big, you
• 1:07:29
  know, institution like universities where there's
• 1:07:32
  faculty meetings and, and you know, Senate meetings and
• 1:07:35
  whatever, he has a pretty handy guide put together for how you
• 1:07:38
  can get in there and fight about it, fight it out.
• 1:07:41
  And basically it's kind of how you can step by step take power
• 1:07:45
  back. So it's been very useful for
• 1:07:47
  people like parents who decide they want to get on school
• 1:07:50
  boards. That's why I.
• 1:07:52
  Brought it up because I think this the way that I that I
• 1:07:55
  looked at this book, it looks to me like this would be incredibly
• 1:07:58
  helpful for parents that are trying to take a position
• 1:08:00
  because you describe it as a field manual for combating the
• 1:08:03
  woke in the university and beyond.
• 1:08:06
  That's right. That's right.
• 1:08:07
  And so it's really been useful. Like I said, I work mostly with
• 1:08:10
  these grassroots for people that are getting into like city
• 1:08:13
  councils or county commissions or even just committees off of
• 1:08:17
  those things for people who are trying to get involved in in
• 1:08:22
  school boards and in in school commissions, and they've been
• 1:08:25
  very successful. You know, first of all, just
• 1:08:27
  understanding that personnel is policy is just a blanket
• 1:08:31
  statement of things of something to understand.
• 1:08:34
  If you don't want bad people to govern you, you have to suck it
• 1:08:39
  up as a good person and go serve at, you know, possibly some
• 1:08:42
  point in your life in public office.
• 1:08:44
  Even if you're just, you know, you're like, well, I don't
• 1:08:46
  really want to commit the time to being on school board.
• 1:08:49
  Well, just remember, if everybody that's a decent person
• 1:08:51
  doesn't want to be on the school board, what you're going to get
• 1:08:54
  is people who want to abuse that position and you're going to get
• 1:08:57
  grifters. You want to make money off of
• 1:08:58
  being there for doing illegal stuff.
• 1:09:00
  It is the duty of good citizens to take the spot away from
• 1:09:04
  somebody who's going to try to abuse their power when they get
• 1:09:07
  that, because those people, that's people who want to abuse
• 1:09:09
  power, go to where they're going to have some power they can
• 1:09:11
  abuse. So we're always going to have to
• 1:09:13
  work to keep them out. It makes a lot of sense.
• 1:09:17
  So, you know, let's. I don't know what's next.
• 1:09:19
  Do you have another new book up? I know I saw a clip and I tried
• 1:09:22
  to grab it, but you had moved it.
• 1:09:23
  It was your pinned post. And I went back to get it this
• 1:09:25
  morning. Oh, yeah.
• 1:09:26
  Which was for a documentary. And all of a sudden it was no
• 1:09:29
  longer there. I'm like son of a what The I?
• 1:09:31
  Put my control on my pinned post earlier today.
• 1:09:33
  Yeah, sorry. No, it's OK.
• 1:09:35
  So let's that documentary. Yeah.
• 1:09:38
  And everybody should read this. I thought this was great.
• 1:09:40
  I grabbed this off your feed. Let's talk about that
• 1:09:45
  documentary. I'm not sure what the project
• 1:09:48
  was. If you were behind me.
• 1:09:49
  They just had somebody feature you in it.
• 1:09:51
  What was the whole tell us? The whole thing on that, I mean,
• 1:09:53
  I was helpful to the project. I'm mostly I'm featured.
• 1:09:56
  I'm very heavily featured. The documentary is called
• 1:09:58
  Beneath Sheep's Clothing, and it's, I mean, I maybe I should
• 1:10:04
  go find it or whatever and send it to you because the trailer is
• 1:10:07
  really cool, but it's at Beneath Sheep's clothing dot movie.
• 1:10:10
  We can probably dig it up more quickly that way.
• 1:10:13
  The idea was that we wanted to communicate with this lady,
• 1:10:16
  Julie Bealing, who led who who directed the the documentary,
• 1:10:19
  had written a book called Beneath Sheep's Clothing,
• 1:10:21
  talking about the infiltration of communism and Soviet Union
• 1:10:25
  into education and and religion, and especially into what it did
• 1:10:29
  in the churches in the Soviet Union.
• 1:10:31
  And then she was comparing that against what the woke movement
• 1:10:34
  was doing in American education and it also in American
• 1:10:37
  churches. So she wanted to expose that in
• 1:10:39
  this book. Turns out a guy, there's a whole
• 1:10:43
  neat story to it, but ends up getting, you know, that they're
• 1:10:46
  going to make a documentary. They asked me if I'd be in the
• 1:10:48
  documentary. And then we just kind of like,
• 1:10:50
  how can we make this bigger? Because, you know, the deal is
• 1:10:54
  some people read, some people, you know listen to podcasts,
• 1:10:57
  some people sit down and listen to interviews and discussions
• 1:10:59
  and conversations. Nothing moves the ball for more
• 1:11:03
  people faster and more powerfully than a film.
• 1:11:05
  A movie gets the job done right. And so you sit down for 100
• 1:11:09
  minutes and watch a hard hitting, good soundtrack,
• 1:11:12
  emotionally engaging, overwhelming imagery
• 1:11:16
  documentary, and you come away like, holy cow, this is a thing,
• 1:11:19
  this is real. We've got to do something right.
• 1:11:21
  And so we wanted to get that medium out there with what's
• 1:11:25
  going on in the world. So beneath Sheep's Clothing was
• 1:11:27
  was a documentary designed to tell the average person that
• 1:11:31
  what's happening in the country today is a communist revolution.
• 1:11:35
  It's communism in a new form that uses fascist economics.
• 1:11:38
  It has fascism worked in. We all know the big banks and
• 1:11:41
  the big corporations are involved.
• 1:11:43
  Doesn't matter. It's still got a communist
• 1:11:45
  program and they're trying to take over everything, not just
• 1:11:48
  the United States, but the world.
• 1:11:49
  You know, the United States is ultimately it's like the link in
• 1:11:53
  the whole chain if they how. Goes the United States.
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  Goes the rest of the world. That's exactly right.
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  And where? Where are you going to run if
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  the United States falls? It's just maybe your country
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  last two more years before they get there.
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  But nobody's going to last long without the US Constitution
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  protecting literally, in this case, the whole world from
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  tyranny. And so we wanted to get that
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  message out and we wanted to get it out ideally before the
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  election. We wanted to make, you know, as
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  bold a statement as we could with it.
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  And so that started last fall. And we just cranked on it to get
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  it done and put it out. And I'm like I said, I mostly
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  was, I'm a talking head in the film a lot.
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  I was in an advisory role here and there.
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  I helped them with the script a little, like, you know, looked
• 1:12:32
  at some early cuts and edits. But mostly, you know, kudos to
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  the director and the filmmaker and the producer who really were
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  the ones who put this thing together the way that it is.
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  It's great. I'd love to have him on the
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  show. We'll have to talk about that.
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  Let's do this, James, because I want everybody to know where
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  they can find you with the time we have left, you know, tell us,
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  you know, again, we know about your website.
• 1:12:54
  You can mention that again, but of course where they can buy
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  your books, where's the best for you and any other material
• 1:12:59
  including your social media share it all with.
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  Them. Sure, sure.
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  Yeah. The best place to buy the books
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  actually is is is on the big site that's named after a jungle
• 1:13:07
  in there with the rainforest. Amazon has all the books you can
• 1:13:12
  you can get them there. That's the best place to go and
• 1:13:14
  most convenient and get a decent share off of that.
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  So it's all good. You can find a list of all the
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  books on a tab on the website, the website
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  againisnewdiscourses.com. And you can follow New
• 1:13:27
  Discourses as a company anywhere you want on social media.
• 1:13:30
  At New Discourses. I personally am the person, the
• 1:13:34
  professional troublemaker provocateur that you started out
• 1:13:37
  with. I, I play my games at conceptual
• 1:13:40
  James. So that's a lot of letters, but
• 1:13:42
  at conceptual James, one word, no underscores or any, any
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  symbols. And I primarily am active on X.
• 1:13:50
  I'm aggregated everywhere else except for Facebook.
• 1:13:55
  Facebook banned me for life for a for a pretty good joke, and we
• 1:13:59
  have to live with that. Yeah, we've got some of those
• 1:14:03
  ourselves. We lost a couple of accounts.
• 1:14:05
  We had a pretty decent account on YouTube.
• 1:14:06
  We're back on there. But it, you know, it's a slow
• 1:14:08
  grind now. They didn't like us putting up
• 1:14:11
  any of the CDC's or Vera's information up during our.
• 1:14:14
  Show. That was a direct no, no, of
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  course, I've been permanently banned on linked Diane.
• 1:14:18
  They didn't like me streaming our shows over there either.
• 1:14:22
  That's funny. You know, you, you, you know,
• 1:14:24
  you get attacked. You know it.
• 1:14:25
  It's usually because you're over the target and just like you,
• 1:14:28
  you know, you're a fed, you're this, you're that.
• 1:14:31
  That seems to be the fall back. In fact, we see so much of that
• 1:14:33
  division. George, you got any other
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  comments here before we wrap this up, brother?
• 1:14:37
  No, I don't think so. You good?
• 1:14:39
  Everybody in the chat loved all the information you put out.
• 1:14:44
  Great. Well, thank you everybody in the
• 1:14:46
  chat. And your link's been my MoD's.
• 1:14:48
  Been putting your link in the chat the whole night.
• 1:14:50
  Well, you know, listen, there's one thing I can tell you, James,
• 1:14:54
  people in this country are fed up on both sides of the aisle
• 1:14:57
  when it comes to our kids. Sure, there's this extreme far
• 1:15:01
  left and extreme far right that I would call mental health
• 1:15:04
  crisises, whether it's Trump derangement, you know, syndrome
• 1:15:08
  on one side, or whether it's neo Nazi, you know, hardcore racist
• 1:15:11
  rhetoric that those people really believe it on the far
• 1:15:14
  right. I think that's not what
• 1:15:16
  America's about. I think America's Got to come
• 1:15:17
  together. Our show is always about taking
• 1:15:20
  the division and chaos and unifying the country.
• 1:15:22
  That's our plan. So number one, I want to thank
• 1:15:24
  you for the work you're doing. I think it's important and I
• 1:15:27
  think the way you go about it is really unique.
• 1:15:29
  So people that haven't gone over the website, please do follow
• 1:15:32
  James on his conceptual James over there on X.
• 1:15:36
  You want to find him because he he puts a lot of great
• 1:15:37
  information at and you'll see him.
• 1:15:39
  Of course, I missed this troll move because I was too busy
• 1:15:41
  today if I'd caught it on the early side of it.
• 1:15:43
  But I'm happy you were here to shoot.
• 1:15:44
  Share it. So of course, the big, big mafia
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  Somebody had to pay the price. Sam did that.
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  Sam Childers never stopped, because the bad things never
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  There is no one else like him in the world.
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  And I said to him, I said, would you go now to get Kony in the
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  You have ISIS there, you have Islamic State and you have ADF.
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  He's in the Congo. And now God has me in the Congo,
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  you know, So hopefully we'll meet up one day.
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  But maybe I can lead him to the Lord or send him there.
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  One or the other, huh?