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Keyforge Top 5 Exciting Developments in 2024 · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: You need this now because I know I stand until
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  Speaker 1: this day, this day.
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  Speaker 2: That oh right, what's going on? Everybody? I am the one,
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  Speaker 2: the only, the w o o kay I e joined
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  Speaker 2: here by the normal cast of misfits. We have the
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  Speaker 2: eu Waukist of v walks Ewalk Jr.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, Keith Ford community. Glad to be here in a
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  Speaker 3: brand new year.
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  Speaker 2: New Year, New das course, still the same old choke show.
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  Speaker 2: We got the choke Show. Hey guys, happening new Year.
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  Speaker 2: I had a wonderful holiday and the PhD of key Forge.
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  Speaker 2: I want to give him like a letter like doctor
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  Speaker 2: m Sheep. I don't know why I get.
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  Speaker 4: I get a letter to six.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's toy twenty five. Fix still twenty five.
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  Speaker 4: Well then I can have a letter next year.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, wait, but obviously we are back from the
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  Speaker 2: holiday break that we normally take around this time of year. Boys,
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  Speaker 2: did Chota bring you everything that was on your Christmas list? Ua? Choda? Definitely?
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  Speaker 2: Joda brought me some of the fun stuff on my list,
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  Speaker 2: So uh so it was good. Chota is fun funner
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  Speaker 2: than Santah I agree, I agree. I got some some games,
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  Speaker 2: got some uh uh some stuff for the bar. So
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  Speaker 2: you know, see, that's why Chota is better than I
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  Speaker 2: don't think Santa brings booze. Yeah, these are these were
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  Speaker 2: not this was not bottles of alcohol. Oh actually no,
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  Speaker 2: that's not true. I did get a bottle of alcohol
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  Speaker 2: from my new boss, which was kind of cool. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, all right, wish my boss would give
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  Speaker 2: me bottles of alcohol. I'll he gives you indigestion. Was good?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was, yeah, I mean I was. It was, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the Woodford Reserve bourbon. So it is a good bottle,
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  Speaker 2: you say, all my bosses gives me heartaches and gray hairs.
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  Speaker 2: I would take I would take any bottle of boozy.
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  Speaker 2: But it was like, oh here, here's your Sam's choice whiskey.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, well, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Could you turn it into Jepson's milort sausage.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about that. The only thing I know
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  Speaker 2: about mylart is it is fished out of the Chicago River.
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  Speaker 2: That is why it is yellow, because it is filled
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  Speaker 2: with urine. Mm hmm. As sheep cracks one, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure who's cracking the alert.
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  Speaker 4: But.
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  Speaker 2: OK, zero zero, I'm gonna say probably die of coke.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, it's eight thirty at night. Sheep's got a
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  Speaker 2: new job where he's got to be in betty By
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  Speaker 2: by a certain time, So we got to go. So
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  Speaker 2: paddle to the battle. Ab R is still happening, guys,
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  Speaker 2: key for it is still happening in twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: It's a Christmas miracle.
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  Speaker 4: Yay.
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  Speaker 2: So what's gone on over in the ABR land dras Corps? Well,
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  Speaker 2: guess which team is currently in first place based on
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  Speaker 2: all the losses this week that I haven't submitted yet?
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Drasray? Uh wow, that was our doctor Drasray was
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  Speaker 2: our Doctor x Ray and I team league team Probably
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  Speaker 2: guess the amalgamation of three people on a team ever,
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  Speaker 2: that's right, it was pretty good. Now this time it's
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  Speaker 2: Team DRAZ Corps u as in dr Z Space CEO
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  Speaker 2: r Ps Drazz cor Oh the DRAZ Corps like the
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  Speaker 2: Marine Corps. Exactly get it? Okay, So that's what everybody
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  Speaker 2: voted for. I was like, how I didn't vote for that? Well?
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  Speaker 2: Did yeah? We did? You probably voted for Flaving Hobos
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  Speaker 2: just to confuse everyone, did you actually vote?
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  Speaker 4: She did not?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? That was definitely a top top voted one. What
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  Speaker 2: did you vote for sheep or something clever? Something clever? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: there's got a lot of votes, you know, bye week.
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  Speaker 2: But we are not bad. We are yeah, we are.
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  Speaker 3: Like okay, So for for soccer, there was a team
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  Speaker 3: that when I hadn't submitted their their team name is
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  Speaker 3: bye Week and yes, it really caused some issues when
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  Speaker 3: you actually have a bye and then that's different from
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  Speaker 3: bye week. So they got a lot of wins. It's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of fun to play.
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  Speaker 2: Good good strategy. We're currently in first place where this
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  Speaker 2: week is the weirdest format ever, though I'm not I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't recommend it. It's an experiment. Well it's the Key
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  Speaker 2: of Darkness week. Yeah, so yeah, every deck needs to
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  Speaker 2: bring Key of Darkness and in order to win, you
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  Speaker 2: have to forge a key with Key of Darkness, which
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  Speaker 2: is probably the hardest key cheat to forge a key with.
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  Speaker 2: And if in tc O you forge your third key
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  Speaker 2: or you're about to forge your third key, you have
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  Speaker 2: to manual mode to unforge a key so that you
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  Speaker 2: can keep playing. The problem is, as we're finding eventually
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  Speaker 2: in TCL, the cable just crashed because you've confused it
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  Speaker 2: too much. So that happened to be on my first
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  Speaker 2: the first attempt, and so then we had to play
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  Speaker 2: again and I was lucky enough to to win the
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  Speaker 2: second second one this week. But it's been a strange,
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  Speaker 2: strange week. We always do a jank one. I don't
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is what we'll do again.
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  Speaker 3: I think that you should have just had access to
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  Speaker 3: Key of Darkness twenty four to seven at least that
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  Speaker 3: at any point you can go and pull it versus just.
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  Speaker 4: Playing a deck without Key of Darkness and you can
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  Speaker 4: just do it.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, well no, I'm saying that it should be
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  Speaker 3: in your deck. But if you can go ahead and
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  Speaker 3: pull off Key of Darkness, you can go ahead and
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  Speaker 3: pull off Key of Darkness, And I'm cool with that.
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  Speaker 2: Sort of like the infinite or the yea artifact that
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  Speaker 2: we did that was a really fun one. I liked
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  Speaker 2: that format a lot, like for jank, not not you know,
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  Speaker 2: not every not a huge tournament, not every week, but
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  Speaker 2: like something different, something crazy. It's fun. We always do
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  Speaker 2: do one weird week in ABR.
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  Speaker 3: My uh, I felt bad for you when you're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so we went ahead and needed to go ahead and
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  Speaker 3: I missed it by one. Amber because they calculated wrong
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  Speaker 3: side to cycle back through my whole entire deck.
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  Speaker 2: And that's yes, because I haven't played AOA and forever forever,
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  Speaker 2: and I forgot sucker Punch was Alpha and and so
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I could get to twelve and I'm plagued
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  Speaker 2: by cards and I'm like, why can't I play this card?
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  Speaker 2: But I'm like, because it's Alpha, Yeah, it happens. Alpha
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  Speaker 2: and Omega by possibly the worst mechanic ever introduced to Keithan,
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  Speaker 2: you have a worst mechanic or you know, with a Tide. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's pretty bad, worst than Alpha Omega. I mean, Tide
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  Speaker 2: is bad because they didn't make the upside up enough. Ye,
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  Speaker 2: and the downside is just not that great, right, it
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  Speaker 2: could have been interesting. I think Alpha and Omega are
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  Speaker 2: just bad ideas.
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  Speaker 4: Now people who like the Tide think tokens are the
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  Speaker 4: worst mechanic ever.
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  Speaker 2: They don't like good things. Yes, this is things that
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  Speaker 2: are good. They're like, I want to struggle real hard
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  Speaker 2: to make ever going.
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  Speaker 4: To make key Forge better is if we just smashed
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  Speaker 4: our fingers with a hammer and then played.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they say that. I was more
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  Speaker 2: going with the you know what would be the greatest
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  Speaker 2: thing ever is of every game of KeyForge took a
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  Speaker 2: full forty five minutes. Well, I played almost two forty five.
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  Speaker 4: And we can just you know, extend it to an
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  Speaker 4: hour long games after that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the big proponent of Heart of Forest. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: oh I'm puzzle aware this is coming.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Heart of the Forest. On
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  Speaker 2: the opposite reason, right, So for all those like I
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  Speaker 2: am a big proponent of KeyForge games taking like twenty
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  Speaker 2: minutes ish, I'm only playing Heart of the Forest to
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  Speaker 2: completely frustrate the person across the table from me.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm more at the lines of Wizard Random
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  Speaker 3: and our our comments here. Alf and Omega aren't the
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  Speaker 3: worst idea, and I do think it's intuitive. It's pretty
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  Speaker 3: easy to actually come up with for game design. The
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  Speaker 3: cards Alpha and Omega were applied to were pretty bad
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  Speaker 3: though in general, so that I give credit to was
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  Speaker 3: random on and.
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  Speaker 2: I that's true. There needed to be a better like
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  Speaker 2: if they were like really powerful, Yeah, I could I
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  Speaker 2: could see them being like, yeah, okay, that's a thing
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  Speaker 2: like Anta Scrapper. That's what I was thinking of, which
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  Speaker 2: I did have for the deck I was playing.
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  Speaker 3: Did you also forget to play that first.
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  Speaker 2: I think one of the loops I did forget and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what, But it's not like I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: do any I'm just gonna discard them that he's five. Ever,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I just gotta get the cards that I
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  Speaker 2: want within the game, so discard play up doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna reap because then I'll have to get
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  Speaker 2: back to five again. It was a weird. It was
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  Speaker 2: a weird mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Cheap. How are you playing in a bar?
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing just fine. Having a little trouble getting my
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  Speaker 4: game scheduled this week, but yeah, I'll figure it out.
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  Speaker 4: But I think I only lost ones so far.
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  Speaker 2: We can validate this hold on, doctor Sheep. You're three
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  Speaker 2: and two.
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  Speaker 3: Numbers in the New year. Boys, We're actually gonna have facts. Now.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, you lost let's be round four, round one,
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  Speaker 2: so that means you lost what was that?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, So what what this What
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  Speaker 3: this tells us Keyboards community is that you just have
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  Speaker 3: to have a short term memory and forget your losses
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  Speaker 3: and move on to all those victories, right sheep.
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  Speaker 4: I mean like yeah, what I mean like it is
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  Speaker 4: actually true keeping keeping yourself all tied up over the loss.
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  Speaker 2: It happens, it's it's not worth it. Yeah, the the
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  Speaker 2: old sor right, thanks to help him Pitch Yourself. I
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  Speaker 2: got to relive my loss from gen Con thanks Sydney.
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  Speaker 2: Oh oh, because of the help of Eat Yourself podcast
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  Speaker 2: to drop. Yeah, yeah, that was a good episode. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: talking a battle is like, yeah, crush that wokie guy.
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  Speaker 2: I loved it, all of it. It was great. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the picture's amnesia. That is something that you should have,
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  Speaker 2: right if you, uh, if you give up that home
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  Speaker 2: run just you can't remember it, you gotta throw the
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  Speaker 2: next pitch. Same thing, key Ford, you do something either
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  Speaker 2: because you drew poorly or you played wrong or the
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  Speaker 2: matchup was bad. Gotta have Arkan's amnesia go into the
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  Speaker 2: next game.
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  Speaker 3: Otherwise it'll lead to tilt, which was my first episode
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  Speaker 3: many many many us ago. Hum hmm, speaking of eons ago,
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  Speaker 3: boys and girls, prophetic visions, what's that? And game found
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  Speaker 3: Pledge Manager is now live that we have finished, so
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  Speaker 3: please go ahead and make sure you submit.
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  Speaker 2: And make sure you do your home based stuff. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a separate form home based and deck name. Go ahead,
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  Speaker 2: you get it. Yeah, yeah, the deck name. Uh so,
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  Speaker 2: if you got an order where you need to pick
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  Speaker 2: an amazing deck name, go in and put Arcon's Corner
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  Speaker 2: best podcast in that form field. Yeah, and uh you know,
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  Speaker 2: or draw better. Maybe that's better. Just do draw better.
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  Speaker 2: See let me draw better. Next we could have x
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  Speaker 2: Ray sucks is always a classic. That is a classic.
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  Speaker 3: You walk is my favorite podcast host. That's also pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Are you so? I think I own the only slow
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  Speaker 2: walk slow deck right now. So you guys could all
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  Speaker 2: go out and get slow walk slow decks. Mh but
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  Speaker 2: then you might not have the best one in the
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  Speaker 2: world anymore. Yeah's true. I think it's a ninety. It's pretty,
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  Speaker 2: it's like almost good enough. It's it's almost just like everything.
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  Speaker 5: But just like you know, so, I feel I feel
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  Speaker 5: like that was a low, low vision to just to
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  Speaker 5: just meash that pitch out of this park. It doesn't
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  Speaker 5: you know what though, dress it doesn't matter this year
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  Speaker 5: because for all of our vaults, first and second now
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  Speaker 5: makes it in.
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  Speaker 3: So we're good.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, you're gonna do it.
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  Speaker 3: Amnesia amnesia man, mm hmm.
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  Speaker 4: So kryptonite my store is bad, so you can vote
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  Speaker 4: for them. But I don't think I have any actual
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  Speaker 4: local players to vote for me this time because.
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  Speaker 2: The store we.
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  Speaker 4: Play at has it. Chicago has them, so I won't
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  Speaker 4: get to Chicago people like there's So if you're out
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  Speaker 4: there you don't have a store vote for, you can
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  Speaker 4: always vote for Kryptonite Collectibles of Janesville. Send me a
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  Speaker 4: picture and when we actually know what we're getting, because
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  Speaker 4: we don't know what having it this time even means help,
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  Speaker 4: but it better be better than more just M plus anyway, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: put your vote over here by me, uh, and I
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  Speaker 4: will be happy to hook you up with some of
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  Speaker 4: whatever we get it what you know, whatever standard price
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  Speaker 4: will be. So if you really got nowhere to vote for,
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  Speaker 4: there's not store decks this time. Like the last two
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  Speaker 4: ones you got store logo decks. It doesn't appear that
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  Speaker 4: they're in the kits this year, so you're not going
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  Speaker 4: to get store logo decks.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, well you'll get so crucible clash. Right is the
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  Speaker 2: uh is the thing? Right?
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  Speaker 4: Is that the thing that's going to be based off
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  Speaker 4: of votes.
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  Speaker 2: While you get access to I don't know what you
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  Speaker 2: get based off of votes. Question.
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  Speaker 3: So all we can really go ahead and say is
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  Speaker 3: a couple of things, one pledge manager for making sure
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  Speaker 3: your shipping is up to date, adding any last minute
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  Speaker 3: add ons, and home base is all due by Tuesday,
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  Speaker 3: January twenty first at ten am Central time, so that
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  Speaker 3: we do know as today's January ninth got a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of time, but not a ton two, we know
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  Speaker 3: that home base is not being taken care of by
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  Speaker 3: the stores anymore. Correct, guys, unless I got that wrong.
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  Speaker 3: The actual link it's self is on key forging dot
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  Speaker 3: com and there is a spot for home base. It
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  Speaker 3: has very very very little information if you back the
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  Speaker 3: keyboardge Visions, uh Prophetic Visions game found campaign. Basically you're
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  Speaker 3: going to fill in a couple of things and it
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  Speaker 3: says for the same your name, email, your game pledge,
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  Speaker 3: your game found pledge ID, and then the region and
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  Speaker 3: from there then they have a whole listing kind of
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  Speaker 3: by state, which for US and internationally there is different.
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  Speaker 3: Uh you know, Australia, I can see what is there
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  Speaker 3: for the game. Europe you can go ahead and see
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  Speaker 3: the store. So I actually think the organization of that
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  Speaker 3: is nice. It's a little sad for those stores that
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  Speaker 3: didn't essentially sign up for it, but I feel the
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  Speaker 3: process while it is bogged down in a little bit
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  Speaker 3: cumbersome to get to hopefully it is us as is.
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  Speaker 3: You know, people who've pledged, we can go out and
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  Speaker 3: put that in pretty easily. So I know what's your thoughts?
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  Speaker 2: Boys? Am I off? Yeah? I mean I am a
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  Speaker 2: little like a little worried that it's uh going to
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  Speaker 2: be forgotten a miss and because people are right, because
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  Speaker 2: people are forgetting missing like I yeah, So hopefully hopefully
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  Speaker 2: people are able to order their stuff, get get something
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  Speaker 2: cool and and it'll be good.
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  Speaker 3: As to what coolness it is, we have no idea. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but tell us communicate, have that plan in place.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good thing. That's next week, that's not this week.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, because we did go ahead and get some
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  Speaker 3: feedback that you know, we were way too positive and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know what episode that
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  Speaker 2: was on. I mean maybe we were positive for a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. Well, so there was a specific comment that
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  Speaker 2: we weren't giving gg hard enough time about op support.
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  Speaker 2: Just you wait till next week.
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  Speaker 3: Well, when you set the bar so low that you
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  Speaker 3: step over it instead of riding under it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes in this game, I feel like I have
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  Speaker 2: a little touch of the Stockholm syndrome, right, like you
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  Speaker 2: start identifying with your captain already investment. We're just sticking
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  Speaker 2: with it. I'm I'm just here to the wheels fall off.
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  Speaker 2: It's any day now, I think.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, there's there are some things and we have
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  Speaker 3: our top five moments.
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  Speaker 2: But we want to talk about the top five things,
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  Speaker 2: not moments, top five things. He Ford related in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four. Well, moments is like fiky two Wookie took
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  Speaker 2: uh second place at Nationals. Like that's a moment, right,
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  Speaker 2: this is this is yeah, now, mind you, we connected eyes.
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  Speaker 2: But mind you, these are no specific order. These are
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  Speaker 2: just five things that we found to be extraordinarily positive
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  Speaker 2: and uplifting and knowing this cast, I'm sure we'll find
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  Speaker 2: a way to fuck it all up.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think that we started this one that's
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  Speaker 3: highlighted here with.
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  Speaker 2: So speaking of home bases last year for US, the
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  Speaker 2: home base program was a big positive for us. We
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  Speaker 2: enjoyed it. I enjoyed the decks, I enjoyed the pins
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  Speaker 2: on my mat. I like all the things about the
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  Speaker 2: home base program. I guess we kind of had a
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  Speaker 2: little extra because Sheep is a Sheep is a store,
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  Speaker 2: but the Kryptio Collectibles that is what runs the event
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  Speaker 2: that Sheep runs every Sunday. Yeah, come play with this online.
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  Speaker 4: Well back when it had to be sponsored by a store, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Right, why were you still the deck? If you come
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  Speaker 2: and buy a deck, it's still through that right, So yeah, yes.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, that is the retail account that buys the decks.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know, I think it goes a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more beyond that though. Boys like the idea to
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  Speaker 3: have pride in our stores. We see when we go
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: to vaults people representing different stores in different regions with
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: essentially jerseys or shirts that come from those stores, and
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I like that Gigi actually leaned into it. I thought
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: the pins, that the home base pins were really snazzy.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a really nice touch, and I
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: will tell you, I think that that actually brought people
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: into the game found campaign game found campaign for amber
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Sky's where other game founds didn't have that. And frankly,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: it wasn't always like there were reasons not to necessarily back,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: and we've seen a decrease, but I do think the
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: home base process and kind of that implementation really really
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: was pretty cool. So I thought that they started off
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: in the right path, and I enjoyed that.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I did like that. You know, they were saying, effectively, hey,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: we have to do game found but we know that
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: stories are important, so we're gonna do this thing. We're
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: going to try to make it cool. Now, how cool?
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Was it?
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: But I did think it was. It was a thrust
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: in the right direction and some of the aspects of
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: it were cool. So hopefully it continues to improve. Hopefully.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I feel like we've taken a step back this year
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: in that area. But I mean, maybe it turns out
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: really really Maybe we don't know, but we we all
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: enjoyed the home Base program number four. I'm going out
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: on a limb here. Grim Reminders, Baby, Grimm Reminders, best set.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Grimm Reminders awesome, A Grimm Reminders fantastic. Everything about Grim
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Reminders was absolutely awesome. This is the set. I'm just
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: gonna say it right here. After WHOA, I was pretty
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: down on key Forge as a whole. I wasn't enjoying
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: playing it anymore. I wasn't enjoying doing a lot of
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: things in the key Forge land with woe. Then Grimm
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Reminders came out and I went Holy Banana Ramas and
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: knocked my socks off. I loved Grimm Reminders. We need
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: more of sets like that, sets where it makes me
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: feel like I have a chance even though I don't,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: but make me feel like I have a chance, you know.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I mean the vast majority of the cards and everything
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: going on in Grim Reminders is a ton of fun
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: and there's there's a lot to like. Yes, there's a
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: couple of problematic things, which is probably what some of
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: you listening are are what, But I mean almost all
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: sealed experiences that I've had in gr have been great,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: and I would say most of the ARCon experiences have
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: been great as well, So I mean that's that's pretty good.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I overall liked it. Astros.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that Grim Reminders, for me, allowed individuals
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: to be able to enter the game and you had
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: a competitive deck at a much higher rate, and I
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: think that was important for I think it's important for GIG.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I think that there have been some decks that have
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: been carried along for very very very long period of time,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: and I mean we saw it on the vault to
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: our scene. Groom Reminders just absolutely destroyed things that we
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: had seen Woe kind of taking over that you're talking about.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: This is nothing new, like Woe did the same thing, right, No, No, but.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: I'm saying what I'm saying before before that you hadn't
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: really seen a lot of our vaults, being a number
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: of the same decks continued to show up and so whoa,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: there was that early transition. I mean, if we really
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: look at the Philly Vault tour, you still had people
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: kind of holding on to some of the older decks,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: and as as the twenty twenty three season kind of
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: took over, you could see that WOA really increased and
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: increased and increased, and then when we got to twenty
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: twenty four, you're really looking at Grim Reminders saying, yeah,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: what you have for Woe, we can go out and
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: up the ante. So I do appreciate that X had
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: a little bit more meaning you had a higher chance
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: at being able to pull something that was fire. And
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: that's that's that's interesting to me, and it was fun
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: to be able to play with. There was some interesting
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: ideas behind Grimm Reminders. I will say that it did
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: fall into a couple of different archetypes and they became
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: very repetitive and very easy to see and it did
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: become one dimensional in my opinion, But I hear what
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: you're saying for Grimm Reminders as a whole, to be
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: able to push.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Weird is the one dimensional that we were all heading into.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Like that's not even what one that's not even what
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: took it.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Just saying I mean playing playing a same like being
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: able to eliminate a house, so because that that's really
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: what we're we're at. If you can, if you can
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: go ahead and whittle down immediately to two houses instead
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: of three, that's a win.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, But I feel like every card in Grimm Reminders
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: had a four are Like, it never felt like I
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: was playing like a dead card. I felt like every
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: card I played had an impact and had I had
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: a change on the game.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: Very rare.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Did you play well besides Tutor Ben. If you're playing
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Tutor Ben Rylo, you're you know, I would I would
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: tell you in your Life Choices if you're playing Tutor
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Ben Rylo, Right, but I mean that's me. But you know,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: very few cards in there was it like, oh, man,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: like I'm just playing garbage for garbage sake, right, Yeah.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Most of the carpool was was good and enjoyable and
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: there was only a couple stinkers. You have to have
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: some stinkers, right, Yes, I don't in this game. Well
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: the bin Rylo was a little too bad, right, but
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you stayed good in certain moments.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I just I under I wonder right, because we talk
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: about the theory of card gaming and we're like, oh,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: you got to have bad cards. Do you have to
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: have bad cards in the game where everything is procedurally generated?
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Why? Well, what is what is the game design philosophy
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: behind figuring out so not necessarily terrible cards, but cards
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: that are only good situationally. Figuring out how to take
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: great advantage of those situational cards is a lot of fun,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: especially calling them.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: But it shows the strategy that's there. And so what
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: we're trying to be able to show is that a
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: good player will rise to the top versus just having
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: good cards.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: That's not how this game operates, no, it is it
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: is a good player just doesn't play the bad cards. Now, no, no, no,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: because you cannot hand pick every card your deck, Like
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: even the best decks have some less than amazing cards
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: that that's still pretty interesting. Every single fraud is amazing.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I would say yes, if we didn't have Sealed the
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Lions and that wasn't our main form of playing things. Now,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: well that's the you know, if it was if it
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: was back to OG's Sealed right where you got to
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: pick a deck and like you had to choose it. Yeah, yeah,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: now that that shows the player skill. But now it's
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Sealed the Lions where you get three you can just
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: avoid Tutor Ben Rilo in the ILK all together. Yeah.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily talking about Tutor beIN Rylo because I
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: think that's just a bad card. But cards like so,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: the Sting has been a card that people have been
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: using this week in this the Key of Darkness matchup. Right,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: The Sting is a very weird card that at can
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: actually can be very bad for you, but can be
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: very good for you. That is a lot of fun
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: to play, now, is it.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Favorite cards are bad cards?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, pester Grove and Pester Grove and Heart of
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: the Forest or cards they just you don't like, oh narp, Yeah,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: is an inside joke and if you don't get it,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: that's cool. Bro a bone saw right, well ready bone
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: saw is ready, like you know, I mean bad cards.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: My favorite cards are all memes. What does people what
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: do people don't understand? Yeah, I think it's good. I
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: think we should have those cards.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: So let me tackle this a little bit different, Tres.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: If everything is an A plus card, then that means
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: that essentially you're negating your previous card or they're not
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: all A pluses, so they're comparatively being rated, and we
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: have to keep that in mind. And so that's what
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: he's talking about for the situational play, is that by
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: putting in some cards that have at different rarities a
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: higher occurrence of having a larger impact on the game.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: That is what we like to be able to see,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: so that the pilots or the person who's going ahead
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: and running the deck can show a better understanding. And
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: when you see someone who takes the same deck that
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: you've gone ahead and piloted, they can go ahead and
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: show you maybe something different or new. A number of
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: players really like that, others don't. But that has to
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: be kept in mind. Is there's something to be gained
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: by different experiences, different play styles and how people are
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: interpreting and using the cards.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: There all right, Sheep wanted us to add this one
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: in the theory behind and sheep.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, as on the home base thing like that M
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: plus was going to be part of the home base,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: and it got people to back and vote, and people
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: voted for some you know, like people voted for Kryptonite
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: although they don't plan it because they knew I would
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: sell them the M plus, right, because yeah, and the
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: so like. It did definitely bring people in, like I
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: back just so we'd have a vote. And what they
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: did there, the way they repackaged that in advertising was
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: very very popular. Right, that was a very good idea.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Next week we'll cover this again on the execution of that.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: But the idea was amazing, Like, it was a fantastic idea.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: It really did bring people and people were exc people
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: are interested. Uh, and that's you know what's this home base.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: The theory of M plus the remix of a set,
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: not Discovery where where I'm not sure what kind of
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: remix we're getting, but yeah, like a lot of us
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: have talked her. I know we've talked about it on
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: the cast here before that you know, coder remastered would
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: be good and not getting rid of control of the
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: week and the good cards in it because they didn't
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: take anything out that we can tell with M plus
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: like they didn't go. Oh well, they don't need any
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: mark of distance furnaces. You can still get piles of
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: them and M plus, which is good.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Yep, alrighty uh. Next thing we have on our list
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: deck accolades and deck clones. I think everyone was in
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: agrance that this was a very happy time. We can accolade.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: This is a really cool idea. Yeah, if you have
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: any I don't. Yeah, well, also I do wish, So
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I think they should open it up a little more,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: right if you made a top eight, you know, crack
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: that open, right, man.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: The the extra cost of a taking the digital top
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: top two or whatever and then our top four and
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: then just changing it to an eight, right and attaching it,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: like the cost of a digital image and tracking seems
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: super low. But the potential income from more reprints, Yeah,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: I wonder. I wonder how much they actually make on
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: a reprint to know if it's worth them investing any
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: effort in it.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Wow, So I think it's there's there's probably a little
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: bit to be made, but not a massive amount. But
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I think it could generate more excitement, right, if you
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: can generate more ways to generate those accolades. Right, so
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: once they actually in twenty twenty seven, once play style
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: is actually available for use, right is that a made
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: up number? Or yes? Is that the number that we're
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: going with? There? You go, so uh like, hey, if
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: you bring your deck to the store at least X
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: number of times you get some accolade, right, Like people
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: would go, I think, and bring that deck and play
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: it multiple times to get that accolade, like I think, like,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I think, so you then get that deck that you
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: really like. That says like, you know, played at whatever
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: the name of your store is.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Right now, that seems well, I guess if they can,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: they'd have to have some way to almost ai that
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: or you know, well just.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Just it has to be a certain number of characters
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: and when you know, you set up the whatever in
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: play style, it has that number of characters, right, Like
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: you could programmatize that. Right, So it's worse that that
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: seems like a lot. I'm not gonna lie to that,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: doesn't Like I think that if a deck wins a
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Star Championship, I don't know if that was on there.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think it was. But if it wins a
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Star Championship, that would be a nice app Yeah it is.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: The Star Championships give accolades.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: They give accolades now, yeah, I didn't think they did
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: it originally, but you know.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: They are supposed to this season.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Even like your local stuff, Like if you could get
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: an accolade with it, I think that'd be cool. Yeah,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: like just generate more reasons for people to want to
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: reprint their decks with those cool things on it and
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: show them off. Absolutely, I mean I think also, you
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: know I have I have a deck that's a French
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I now have two clones of it. Somehow I ordered two.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: It's also did you get charge? I did? H Well,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: all right, I have one for me and one for
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: e Wok because Ewok also wanted a copy, so now
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I could share with a friend. There you go.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: I'll say this was also like the top delivered promise
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: right for gig.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: And the way they did it was pretty classy, right
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: like at the event being at KFC being like and
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: it works right now? Yeah, like heades, but here's here's
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: the deal. They had promised that the year previous too.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but but I I yeah, and it's available now,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Like that was good. That was good. That was a
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: good recovery.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they did.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: They did.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Okay here, that's why it's on this list of the
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: top five things for for last year. No, because it
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: was that was well done. We'll see all fleshed out
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: it becomes, or if it is just kind of a
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: couple things here and.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: There, interesting, we'll have to wait and see. Right. Yeah,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: but one thing I think everyone can sit and say, yep,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: that was on ten percent the best thing that Gigi
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: did in twenty twenty four, the Mars Civil War event.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know who came up with fit at gig,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: but bravo to whoever did it. That's off. I took
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: my hat to you because not only I mean that
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: brought people into the stores, it really did. That was
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: the first thing, the first time I can ever say
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: that somebody was like, I'm here to play key Forge
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: and we're like, who the hell are you? And they're like, well,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: we've heard, we heard about this Civil War thing and
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: I found I went and I looked for a place
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: to play it and I found one and now now
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I'm here.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Well, but part of it was new cards, well known
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: competition of the two different sides, you have an impact
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: on storyline coming forward, but also there was a game
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: store finder, Like, that's important if we want to find
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: a game that we are interested into play, I can
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: bug other people who are in the store. But if
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: there are people who can find the game, who see
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: it through any advertising from social media, from us, from
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: GG that game found, that game finder is extremely important
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: in my opinion.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: And I think that could be fleshed out to just
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: local play. I don't. I don't see why that isn't
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: kind of taken care of. Why there isn't a gate,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Like didn't f f G used to have that, didn't
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: they They'd be like, hey, find out where to play?
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: They had they had a store like most most friends.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Have a store finder, and gigis multiple times done maps
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: for events and stores who have back things, so they
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: they have stuff.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not I mean, it's not as.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: Fleshed out as just a simple storefinder click. But they
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: they have been making improvements towards that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Baby steps, right, we got to walk before we can run, right.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: But it was there for the Mars event, correct, correct?
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I believe? So? Yes, No, not everybody at once.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: I don't remember. Turns out I already know where I'm playing,
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: so I don't ever look.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I'm certainly it was, but I thought with uh, yeah,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: nothing's changing in twenty twenty five, We're still going to
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: make things up. Who are you kidding? You can always
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: look for better, all right.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: We made it a few minutes.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: We need to just you know, get back in the
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: groove of things, right. But I thought that was one
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: of the biggest things I loved the Mars Civil War.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: I had fun with it. I think, you know, I
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: attended multiple you know, we went all the way to
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Sanctum Gaming down is that in Racine? Yep, yeah, man, Racine,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: just to play some key Forge like total fun. I
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: had a blast. I hope we have it again this
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: year because it was it was worth it. Yeah.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: I think it was fun because it was at There
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: are different sides that I could go out and play.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: You could be passionate about one siding, you know, asked
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: to be able to play repeatedly. It's a little bit
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: of a bummer that the cards, because they're only part
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: of a deck, that you can't actually play them after words.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: But that really didn't detract from me, and I think
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: that's what surprised me most. I this is like the
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: old store champs and kind of FFG days where you
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: went from store to store for more primes. It was
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of fun to be able to travel and
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: to spend time with people just playing keyboards and talking keyboards.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I missed those primes. Primes were a lot of fun.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But I think that's what the event was similar to,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: and so that's why I really think that it was
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: a blast for me.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can agree with that. But let's get into
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I think we all kind of unanimously voted on this one.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Was the Vault Tours this year and the continuation of
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Vault Tours. No money this year for Vault Tours. We'll
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: talk about that next week, but just the fact that
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: they were continue Yeah, prizes in general, but just the
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: fact that we continued with Vault Tours. I mean, they're
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: in game stores now. I don't knowder you put this
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: in here, you walk wise, I mean you put it
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: in like Vault Tours and game stores. I don't know
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: if I necessarily consider that a highlight. Oh yeah, a
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: low white. But what's your thought process there?
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: I think that Vaulteurs being at game stores this is
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: a this is a really important step for us to
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: have those connections. I think that instead of it being
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: at some of the major cons. This allows it to
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: be more of a keyboard centric event that's happening. And
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: when you go to a larger store and all of
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: a sudden, we have, you know, fifty seventy five, one
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: hundred people that are showing up for different items or
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: different events, all of a sudden, your ears kind of
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: peak up. And so I think that it draws from
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: the local community, which is what I was initially anticipating
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: seeing the game store idea, but it also gets others
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: who may not be ready to commit to something a
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: little bit larger merger, and it got people interested, so
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: you're kind of peeking over, oh, what's happening over there,
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: And I think the Mars event did that slightly, but
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: I think being in stores really helped to solidify it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: I think that you had individual flare from the different
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: vaults based on where they were, and there's a lot
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: of pride in the game stores. I also think that
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: it offers different options where you know, when we go
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: over to Roseville, you're restricted by a game center what
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: time we have to be able to get out, and
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: that's partially what we're seeing here for the game stores.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: But it has I don't know, you get your sleeves there,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: and there's just a different community vibe, and so I
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: thought it was really important that we were at game stores.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: I like to build that long term. I thought this
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: was a huge step in the right direction for getting
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: out into more of a local organized play system versus
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: something that's a little bit larger. And that sounds weird
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: because it's vaults, right, that's not your local organized play.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: But if I can connect with stores for going ahead
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: and setting up a larger event and we can house
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: that more appropriately than just in a hotel, I think
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: that it shows other stores that maybe I can go
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: ahead and connect over with my store in the future,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: or maybe I can go ahead and pull my local
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: community in. So that's that's why I put it on.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: I think that was really important.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Wizard Random says that he agrees with you in
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: no US nationals in twenty twenty five is a good call.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I don't really I didn't really feel like one way
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: or the other on it. Not having a gen con
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: might have been even better, right, because I mean, at
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: that point it is just it's just sort of saying, hey,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: we got vaults, and vaults are a lot of fun,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: So I think I think that's fine, right, Like, yeah,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I mean we had a blast at Nationals. I don't
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: know about you guys. I had fun. I think, well,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: E walk my not ahead fun, you've had fun.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: I had fun. I guess my question really comes down
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: to when we look at what's the difference, what's the
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: difference that we're seeing a separation between nationals and vaults?
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if any of us could have
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: honestly answered that question.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: Well, and I think that's exactly what they said. Their
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: thing is there isn't enough difference between nationals and vaults to.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: Segregate them, right, And I think that that's really all
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: that needs to be stated, is it's just.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: A little lower barrier for somebody who wants to run
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: an event to do it Nationals than a vault in
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: a foreign country. But having probably a significantly lower barrier
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: to run.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: But having it at gen Con was kind of rough, right,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I mean saying lower barrier fine, but like for US nation.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Choice, Yeah, I think that was you know, as tradition
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: is basically what put it there, not you know, not
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: not logic.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean that that put a much bigger
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: barrier because of how much money it was costing to right, So,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I mean the only thing I could. I'm not even
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: gonna say that because I already know the answers. No,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: So I don't even know why i'd like get my
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: hopes up. I was just saying Adeptacon, where it all
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: began so many years ago.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Well, a Deepticon actually is moving back, moving back to Milwaukee. Yeah,
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: they all grew their space.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Which is weird. They outgrew their space and then they
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: moved to Milwaukee as opposed Illinois.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Has. Milwaukee has a larger gaming space. You got a
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: picture that gen Con was was housed in before it
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: was in Indianapolis was a Midwest Express center for years,
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: and so with that we have this space. You also,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: there's just a different cost for parking in hotels in
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Milwaukee does offer that next step off.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: But regardless, I kind of figured Chicago would offer the
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: next step up. But maybe they don't need something that big.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe it was a price thing I couldn't
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: tell you. Yeah, let's see what else we got in
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: here and that. Oh so you guys put we did
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: talk a little bit about KFC that the KFC had
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: extended into more of an experience as well.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: It's an extra day.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: It's an extra day. But like, there were other things
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: to do, right. There were community led events, which is
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: something we didn't get to see before. I mean, we
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: had the podcasters panel, which is something that really wasn't
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: done before. I would have liked to see some of
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: these things put on a little bit grander of a
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: scale as opposed to like CITs were awesome. You know,
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: the creator cards are great. I had fun with those.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like, you know, if you're gonna run,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: you know, we we had Shredder and we ended in
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: the last day, and you know, there was what was
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: else something related it down doing that, but like it
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: was all kind of a side note as opposed to
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: like part of the experience. I think maybe I don't
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: know a lot of people participated. I I like a
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: lot of people were doing a lot of stuff right,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: So so I thought that they're pretty much everything that well.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I guess I don't know all the things. I guess
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: if there was stuff that wasn't well attended, I wasn't
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: aware of it. So I guess maybe I shouldn't say
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: everything was done. But there was definitely things going on
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: that a number of people went to right, so.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: A more dedicated area with I don't know, somewhat clearer
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: signage because I mean it was in our it was
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: definitely in our pamphlet, handout, flyer program, whatever set.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Of words, but.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: You didn't really realize it was going on unless you
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: went and looked for it.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, for the podcast panel it was announced. I
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: went then back and shouted it out, and not everyone
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: is willing to be able to do that. I will say,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: as I am presently in the process of running a
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: very large men's event. That's one of the big tricks, boys,
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: is where do we have space?
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: So if you look at the.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Game center, I do agree with you sheep, I think
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: signage could have been important. I think that would have helped.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: But we were inside rooms. We were in the other room,
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: and there's still a gaming facility that others are attending
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: who aren't part of this event, and so that's where
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: it becomes. The trick is, okay, what rooms are actually available.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: I think they did the best that they could, but
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: in regards to spacing and room size, I just don't
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: know where else we could really go unless you're outside
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: of Game Center. But I do like the idea of
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: adding on to that with signage like here's signage would
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: would help.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: It was a little weird than losing half the the
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: one game space is dedicated to them.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: That's pretty much took it over on Sunday.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well we probably struck it over the whole weekend,
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: but it was not dedicated to us, and there were
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: other games and non keyboards people in the space.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: This is true Saturday, I know, Saturday and Friday there's
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: there's plenty of non Keyfarde going on, so I mean,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: it wasn't dedicants. Well, plus we had write the Scrubs
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Revenge Party just all the partying, right, I was, I
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: was gonna get involved in that with all all of
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: the kind of the things you could do outside of
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: key Forge, right, Like, yeah, there was stuff to do
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: after key Forge too, when key Forge is all done,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: like getting to meet other people and then being told
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: you're not you're not their favorite person of Arkans Corner
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: or that is okay, or or being told that you
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: didn't expect to be people's favorite one. I didn't, but
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: my favorite was still somebody telling me to my face
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: that the Wookie not not really their favorite member of
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Arkans Corner. I'm like, oh, what was their favorite? I'm curious,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't remember, but I was just kind
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: of like, oh, okay, and like just kind of playing
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: at cooy because you know, you're being told like, well,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: not really my favorite. I'm like, you have no idea
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: who you're talking to right now, do you? This is
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: kind of great. They probably followed it up with my
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: favorite person at Arcot's Corner is s He Steel, Right,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: that's I don't believe my favorite member Arcots Garner who Sydney. Yeah,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: she's honorary local. Yeah. But the parties were definitely a
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: big thing, whether that was just sitting around playing skulls
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: or doing shots, or or talking to jazz Corps with
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: glazed over eyes not knowing if he really knows what
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: you're telling him or not. I remember nothing. Yeah, that
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: was my favorite part of of of KFC. And we
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: had good food, We went out food, we had the robin.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it wasn't for the community, ladies and gentlemen.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: It wasn't for the community. This is this is one
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: of the better ones I've been involved in, the best,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: the best number one. But tell us what your guys'
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: favorite part of twenty twenty four was. We're all we're
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: all ears, we're listening. Put it down in the comments
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: section down below. And with that being said, next week
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: we're going we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna flip
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: it and reverse it. Right, we're gonna be going over
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: the bottom five things of twenty twenty four. Are you
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: guys ready? I'm ready?
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: Pink jerseys that much?
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: You were bored? Ready? What was wrong with the pink jerseys?
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: They were fantastic? You know many compliments I've gotten on
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: those jerseys. I never got mine. Was it from ghost
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: because it's kid sized? Yeah? Yours? Yours is yours is
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: definitely a youth large wall all. It's actually in my bathroom.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: It's I aimed, didn't put it on my wall in
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: my bathroom, but there was. It was a good time.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: So let us know what your guys' favorite is. Next
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: week we'll be going over the bottom five. I can't
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: wait for that one. I think we're all ready to
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: maybe unleash and start healing a little bit. Yeah mm hmm,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: all right, But with that being said, somebody has to
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: tuck doctor sheep in. Yes, yes, ewo.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, let's definitely keep it up though
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: be you know home Base, Let's keep that going. Let
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: people know have those sets, not just in theory, no,
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: but like keep pushing good good sets like reminders, important
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: deck accolades and reprints, the deck clones coming out. That's
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: awesome Mars event. So I'm looking forward to the event
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: this year and definitely organize play our Vault tours continuation
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: at game stores, extending cac There's there's a lot happening
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: in the vault, So there's a lot that we're thankful
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: for from last year and we're looking to build upon
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: it this year. We want the best for this game.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's halfway through January. You feel free to tell
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: us where the hell they are that we do know about? One?
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: We know about that a major step forward?
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Is it? This is positive Wookie positive the right direction?
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I think one this time last year. No, we didn't,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: we didn't.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: No, they.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: They did say they were going to announce more in January,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: so that would also be a positive step forward. Should
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: I check keithforging dot com? Or is it just going
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: to get released tomorrow just to spite us? I mean,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: it's definitely not there now, I don't think, but okay,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: go ahead, good now. Last update was December nineteenth, twenty
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: twenty four.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Hold on, did they forget to hit the submit button again?
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe I've done it. I think I think they're they're
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: they're working on it, right, They're they're calling every game
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: store in the country. Yep.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: I was just I was just hoping that there there
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: was going to be a refresh button here, just despite us.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: That would have been great.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: M Yeah, all of a sudden, you refreshed is just there?
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Oh set, you have no idea? We just start bottom
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: five right now. No, I feel like there's some new
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: art on these. I don't remember all this art here.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Some of these I definitely remember. Some of these I
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: don't remember at all, like the one on faith, prophecies
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: and Fates explored. I don't remember this. This shadow is
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: a specter gadget looking dude, I remember him. Where are
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: you looking this?
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: This is great. Radio Boys and Girls absolutely.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Is a podcast.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: Nobody comes so they can't see what you're talking about.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Nobody they come here to listen to us complain. Somebody
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: was talking about the radio today at work. I was like,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: what's the radio? The radio never heard of her?
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: I love you guys all. There's a lot happening around
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: the world, so if you're southern California, stay safe. If
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: you're involved in any of that.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Let me do there's folks down there.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: So well, and that's wild the number of ABR friends
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: and uh plumbing for UK. There's a lot happening, So
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: I'll be safe playing key forge, keep smiling.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: And with that being said, you walk past to tuck
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: doctor sheep in the bed and we'll see y'all next week.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: May the porge be with you.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: My hands so nothing got ah, we make same mistake.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Spell my hot boy.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Until the day I died, my heart by until the
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: day I die. Spell that hot boy until the day