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Brantley Gilbert Going Under The Knife · Inside Country with Wayne D

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  I was like, oh, I at least turn off give me a favorite.
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  Well that, let me pull that in front of a little bit more.
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  Yeah, all right, go alfter this ship we can't use. All
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  right, here we go. By the way I dressed up for you today,
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  I appreciate that I had a nice shirt pecked out and the walk outside
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  and I was like, oh man, it's too hot. Absolutely. Hey,
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  so we're hanging in the studio with Brandley Goert just announced them an album
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  today. Let's go baby? Is that exciting? Oh dude, this morning
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  exciting. We've been working on it since before the last one came out.
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  So how long? How long do you got to sit on news like this
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  before you can share? Because it's been done, it's been known a minute,
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  he looked. He by the way he looked at the record, it
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  would be like, too long? What does take so long? Y'all?
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  Do please do tell? Yeah? Man, we scott boards of us as
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  that me all the time, because once I figured out what's going on on
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  the album, I immediately start working on the next one. So I think
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  we started with ninety something songs and whittled down to ten for this album.
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  Uh so I'm really excited. Man. This has been the first time in
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  a long time. Uh, well, probably the first time ever. We've
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  as opposed to it being like a chronological chatter in my life. It's just
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  like, we picked the best ten songs that sonically fit together, and man,
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  there's some nostalgic stuff on there. We got away from a lot of
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  the digital stuff and kind of recorded this album a little bit of old school.
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  So I was pretty stoked about that. It kind of takes you back
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  to my first two albums, and those are my favorite of mine. So
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  I'm stoped, man. I can't wait to see what everybody thinks. So
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  the album is called Tattoos. Obviously you're a guy who has plenty of them.
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  Why does that fit? Because sometimes people just throw a title line and
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  like who cares? Right, Like whatever, it's gonna live and we'll move
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  on. But why did tattoos fit for this project? A few different reasons.
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  So one, Uh, all of my album titles up to this point
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  have been something to do with my faith, like the Faith or you know,
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  spiritual based titles. This one's obviously different. Uh. But the you
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  know, I have a cross that runs from the top of my chest to
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  my belt line and sideways, and it's the biggest one I have. For
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  a reason, it's kind of to remind me to keep that first, or
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  at least attempt to. So that was one of the reasons. Another reason
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  is if you listen to the song Tattoos one, every tattoo song I've ever
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  heard sucks. They just suck cause it's a It's always like, look,
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  how cool I have I got tattoos. Yeah, real tattoo people, I
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  felt aren't necessarily like that, like we we have stories about them. There's
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  there's reasons we have them, and uh, you know, we sit down
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  for I'll never forget. We sat down through this writeing retreat in Texas and
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  it was like the first three sessions I had, everybody was, man,
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  we got to write a tattoo song. I was like, the tattoo song
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  suck. I'm not doing that. And then on the last one, Randy
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  Montana was in there and he was like, well, man, you know,
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  he brought up we need to do a tattoo song, and I was
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  like, I'm not doing it. They all suck and he was like,
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  then make it your job on this one to not suck. And what we
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  ended up with is if you listen to that song all the way through,
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  I can point to every one of them specifically that the songs the song talks
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  about, and you know, instead of this album, you know, kind
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  of telling the story of my life and retracing steps and doing that chronologically,
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  that song kind of does it in itself. So you know, we we
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  do the things that we've done with albums in the past with one song,
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  and you know, it kind of encapsulates my faith as well and kind of
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  keeps us in the lanes to be as an artist. You get you don't
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  get cornered too often. It's usually like, oh, what's your favorite song,
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  what's your favorite memory, what's your favorite this I'm not gonna do that.
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  I know out of all of those, there's one tattoo that you're like,
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  damn, that was dumb. Which one is it? Which one do
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  you look in the mirror and try and go that's still there? Eh?
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  You know what? Man? The honesty, god truth. Is there something
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  that I look back on and I'm like, you know, I wouldn't have
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  done that again. But then again, I'm kind of the the anti tattoo
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  guy, which there's some that I have only that I wanted when I was
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  young, and I either didn't have the money or the time to get them,
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  and I got them as a married dad. And you know, some
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  of them are a little on the gangster side. I kind of weaponized Bible
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  verses making me what they won't remaining. My wife hates it. Songs one
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  forty four one. It's like, oh my God, prepare my hand for
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  battle, my fingers for warfare. I wanted that for as long as I
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  can remember and never got it. And I remember getting it and my wife
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  was like, what's the And I told her the verse. She was like,
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  I know the verse, but in context, that's not what it means.
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  And I was like, it means what I wanted to mean. You
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  know what I mean. There are no rules. This is my tattoo and
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  it means this to me. So yeah, I kind of instead of regretting
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  them, I want to and got them later in life. She's like,
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  the only fingers that you're dealing with warfare is how warm the bottle needs to
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  be. Don't do that exactly until that's not the case. That's still gangster
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  to me. You don't listen, you don't tell her. I said it,
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  but between you and me. That's what I'm told about. See you
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  get it. Uh, We're we're going to dive into the album in a
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  second here. But as you sat down, you brought up something I can't
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  not bring up, and that is, uh, you have a certain coming
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  up. Yeah, nothing serious. It's just abdominal hernia, which is normal,
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  right. Yeah, but then you mentioned there's the second one on the
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  books. But it's like you and a bunch of your buddies are gonna do
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  it together kind of like kind of like Bridesmaids would take down Lower Broadway.
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  You're doing something different with you. Yeah, hired a nurse and we're all
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  have go get mosetted me. It's the same day and just kind of go
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  through the healing process to get you know what I'm saying. So, if
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  there's such thing as a sausage party, would this be an unsausage party now
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  that you mentioned it, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hope they don't
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  do nothing to the sausage. I hope, it's just it's just I think
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  the how do you uh, that would be an extreme sausage party. Yeah.
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  Yeah, there's like five or six that was doing it. Man,
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  it's gonna be fun. We're in. It's during football season. You're just
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  gonna hang because you got did you did? I see? Uh? It
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  got pressed? Are you selling? You built up this man cave on this
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  property? Are you selling that place? Yeah? Sure? I never planned
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  on selling it, but uh, I've been looking for a farm in my
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  hometown for about fifteen years, and uh we found one. I've lived there
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  my whole life and had no idea this place was there. But the more
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  time we spent over there, you know, it doesn't really make sense to
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  keep both of them. So we we listed the other one. We're not
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  and it's not like I have to sell it. We're not in a super
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  hurry or anything, but it is on the market. T he a damn
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  thing on it. It was like they did something they never do. They
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  called and asked before they did it, which was really cool. But my
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  realtor's funny as hell. He's sassy, and uh he said TMS. He
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  just called me, and I was like, well that he usually don't do
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  that, and you might as well go ahead and say yes, because if
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  you don't, they're gonna run it anyway, and they're gonna put something embarrassed
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  on there. And they did anyway. The picture they used looked like I'd
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  relapsed. It was like I woke up snorted the whole first baseline like not
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  the case, just the house. It was just a bad picture. Many
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  But to be honest, are you like whatever sells house? I don't care.
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  Are you gonna build? Do you have a new man cave built up?
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  Because the man cave you built at this first property got like pressed didn't
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  like motor trender or somebody come to a whole people did one. It was
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  Uh, it's a seventy five hunder square foot man cave. During COVID,
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  man our our road crew really is like a family, and a lot of
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  times, a lot of years, we spend more time together than we do
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  with our you know, families at home. Uh, so we get used
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  to seeing each other. Man in the middle of COVID, I had this
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  idea, and I've got four or five carpenters in my crew. So the
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  band and crew, all the guys from Nashville came down, the guys from
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  Georgia came out, and we uh, we built this big man cave and
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  I loved it so much. Man it on the new form, I built
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  a completely identical It's like copy and paste version of it, So we're literally
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  just bringing all the stuff from that one. It's already built, it's just
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  waiting on stuff. When it comes to this new album. You said,
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  normally your album's your life. Whatever's going on influences that, right, So
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  how did you would you say this is the most different album's ever been for
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  you, like you from a very long time since like the first two,
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  because it's not like it doesn't cover the chatter in my life. It does.
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  It's just not chronological, right, It's not you know, we in
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  the past, we've a big part of the song selection process is how they
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  fit the story, and we wound up with like a surplus of ninety songs
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  that we started from the wheel down to ten on this one, and we
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  based it more on what sonically worked as opposed to, you know, just
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  just tell the story better than than this other one. So, uh,
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  when we went to the studio, it was it was really the songs that
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  we were we were really digging at the time, and I kind of sent
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  all ninety songs to the man so our management company and to the label,
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  and everybody kind of came back with their top twenty and it was top fifty,
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  and then we went to top twenty and then top ten and we kind
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  of there's that, dude. I value the opinions of folks around me,
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  and a lot of times they hear things I don't, and sometimes I hear
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  things they don't. Like the song we released today, me and my house,
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  everybody fought me on it. It was like, that doesn't need to
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  go on the record. It was a weird demo kind of and I was
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  like, man, if you guys could hear what I hear in my head,
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  like it's sick. And we put the song together and it is probably,
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  if not my favorite song on the album, it's it's my second.
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  How often do you because as much as you lean on opinions and stuff like
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  that, at the end of the day, you're the boss, right,
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  Like it's it's your face, it's your image, it's your career. How
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  often do you pull rank like that? Like, Man, I'm I'm blessed
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  with with the label situation that I have Scott Boar, Shutter and the folks
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  at Valley Music Company. I've always it's been more of a partnership than it
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  has been like an employee employee relationship. It's it's like we really all do
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  getting the trenches together and kind of make decisions with you know, the evaluation
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  each other's input. And you know, I feel like that's for me,
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  especially in this chapter of my career, my life. Like I'm not the
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  youngest dudent on the block, no one, man, I'm fitting the fitting
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  to turn old four oh here in a few months. So don't make that
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  sound like a big deal because some of us have crossed that line, you
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  know what I'm saying, because I hadn't yet. That's I get it.
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  Hey, I yet either, I'm far from dead. Bro just put out
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  a topless album coming. That is true. Like my tittes are on full
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  display. You can't use titties on the radio, can you? We can
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  on the videos. Let's go. Yeah, it was my band we sit
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  in the cover art last Sight. On our group text, it was like,
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  dude, full send on the cover. Hey, how does your wife
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  feel about that? Though? Is she like, oh my god, calm
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  down? A little bit of both, you know what I mean? She
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  kind of gets it because it really is like the album's called Tattoos, And
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  like I said, all all of my albums up at this point, I
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  covered the chapter of my life. And and nothing does that better visually than
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  than the stories and the creeds and the things that I put on my body
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  for a reason. You know that song it says, uh, you know,
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  I didn't get these things as I had to, you know, like
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  somebody forced me to get them. I got them for a reason. You
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  know. There's there's songs on there. There's tattoos on here that you know
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  I got about when you know about my my battle with addiction, you know,
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  so there's some for addiction itself. And and you know, like these
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  cuffs here, if you look, there's there're two different handcuffs, but do
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  that they're together, and you know they pulled them apart, and they're broken
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  at the bottom, and it's got the date did I I put the bottle
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  down on there? So it kind of just reminds me that I'm not shackled
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  by anything anymore. And uh, you know, but took my whole body
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  is my story, you know, so it kind of it kind of does
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  that in the soul itself. What's what's the last time you got a tattoo?
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  Uh? We went and redid this whole arm. Uh. Corey Miller
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  from L A. Ink or did the bottom half. Originally in the top
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  was Tommy Montoya from New York, which is a crazy story because he's he's
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  uh, I'll never forget. My dad called me as mad as hell and
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  he was like, uh, you've seen the TV and he's everything's opening to
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  the general him, it was like, I mean, yeah, there's TV's
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  everywhere, Bro, I've seeing them. What am I missing? It's New
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  York thing? Turn it on nowhere and uh tell me Mine. I forget
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  where he's from originally, but I'm not sure Englicious his primary language. You
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  know, he speaks a couple of different languages and he's got a heavy accent.
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  But on that particular episode, if you look at it to this day,
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  he's talking screens. Just blame it's regular when I open my mouth subtitles,
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  that's a true story. That was How fuck does that work? You
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  know? Does that work? You know what I mean? I got?
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  I got the sub titles for real, you know. I mean, I'm
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  not trying to be racist or anything else. But it's not even his primary
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  language, so I need a translator. I get North of the Mason Dixon
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  Line. You ought to sit it in Europe. We started the Nickelback tour
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  in French speaking Canada bro them people looked at me like I was full blood
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  out in my mind they already language. And then you know, I speak
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  my own version of it that I guess, and that's that's I want to
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  I'm glad you brought up the Nickelback tour because that's such a unique thing.
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  And and it's funny because Nickelback gets such a bad rap now and they have
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  for a long time, right, But like, but if I hit play,
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  you'll sing along to how you remind me? Right, of course you
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  will. But and it's funny because as soon as you were doing press,
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  I had called Ashley. I'm like, hey, I'm like, are they
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  doing uh press? She goes, well, we could get I'm sure Brandley
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  would do something. I go, yeah, but Brandley and Chad still doing
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  stuff or not that I didn't want to talk about it, but I was
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  like, wait, tag Broker, Yeah, I'm kidding, we love you.
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  How does that come about? And how do you stay open minded?
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  Right? Because you've always done things your own way, But if you look
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  at the tours you've been on, like, they don't I don't want to
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  say they no match, but they aren't you, right, So how does
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  how did you? How did that happen? And how excited were you?
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  Once it was actually on the road, but it was like, man,
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  you know, the tour before that was Five Finger Death Play, and that
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  was the one where everybody was like, you know what, I mean,
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  what's going on? Ivan and I have been friends for a long time and
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  we talked about doing a song together before Blue and Black. We finally did
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  a song together, and then, you know, we the conversation kind of
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  turned the tour together. They were in a situation where they had toured for
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  more than a decade with a lot of the same bands, and we had
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  done you know, they had a really similar like working model tour model,
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  and we were kind of in the same boat. It's like we'd always bring
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  out two or three up and comers in our genre. It was like,
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  COVID, I'm not telling you anything, you don't know, but it took
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  everybody a minute. I mean, I still feel like we're still kind of
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  getting back to normal on the live show side of things. So it's like,
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  as opposed to offering people a similar show format that we've shown them in
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  the past, you know, let's let's mix it up something, let's throw
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  something at them that that they're not they don't see coming. And dude,
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  it was. It was really kind of a bonus for us because a lot
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  of those a lot of their fans showed up thinking what the world is country
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  dude doing, and and then we showed up and did everything. They're like,
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  oh, it's it's it's country, but it's not all At the same
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  time, yeah, you don't and you don't do a country so anyway at
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  all. There's some country stuff in there. The songs are due. I'm
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  a country dude, man, That's all I've I've ever known. So I
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  feel like when I write one, you know, everybody has their own definition
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  of what is and what it and country if you if you don't know,
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  just ask them. But I don't think they hand out degrees in that that
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  area. And and to me, you know, I mean, I think
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  it's all personal preference, right to me, what makes its own country is
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  what it's about, you know, if it's if it's storyteller is talking about
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  country things like a lot of people get caught up in the at it's got
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  a rap beat on it, that rap in country's crap. It's like,
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  shut the fuck up, Like the rules are out the window now, like
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  we're you know, you really kind of there are no rules songs in the
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  past, like if you listen to this album is another thing I'm excited about.
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  In the past, sonically you wanted everything to fit and with us,
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  there were always songs that we had to kind of tune down for radio,
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  if it makes any sense, Like I mean, this is heavy as all
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  get out. We got to change this and put some country instrumentation, you
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  know, to kind of make it fall in line sonically with the rest of
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  the album. And now that doesn't exist. You know, all the rules
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  are out the window. And man, you hear songs on this record that
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  you just you hadn't heard on a country track before. And then we'll turn
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  around. There's one on the end of it that that couldn't be more country.
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  It's just a guitar and a dough bro like it it. I'm really
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  about that aspect of the album. But yeah, man, I think all
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  the rules are out the window, and we're one of those acts we've always
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  been able to kind of play in multiple sandboxes. Then that was our chance
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  to show it. You know, when the Nickelback opportunity presented itself, it
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  was like, man, we cannot do that. Like people can talk all
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  the crap they want. They had a merch shirt right, one of their
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  shirts at the merch table set it perfectly. It's a Nickelback fan or liar
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  because it's like, I guarantee you the same people talking all that crap on
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  social media or the same one singing every word of that show, and you
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  can say what you want about them. Guys, to me, until you
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  come see a show, can't really talk. Is if you come see them
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  play, you won't leave talking shit. Yeah, you know you'll leave impress.
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  There's no offensuch about it. Those just row men. You brought up
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  the blurred lines that is country music right now, and that's kind of where
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  I wanted to go next because over the last year itself, we have been
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  introduced to artists who were discovered on TikTok, which was not a thing back
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  in the day. Right, you have artists who are dabbling from one genre
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  to another. From Beyonce did it, I feel like not super committed because
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  now it feels like it's not as much of a priority. You got Post
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  Malone, who's about to put out a full country album. From where you
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  sit, and I'm not going to ask you to like judge each one,
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  but like from where you sit, does all of that influence you seeing other
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  people kind of dabble in and what does it mean for you to be you
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  know, someone who's done this and watch everybody want an invite to the party?
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  Well, man, you know, I see some folks roll up in
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  arms about it. I like a little bit of good, healthy competition one
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  And you know, to me that being said, a large part of this
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  is the music business for me is it's always been more collaborative than competitive.
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  It's because we've always kind of been in. If there's a box in country
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  music, we know where we belong. As long as there's a box,
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  I know where my spot's at that's right on the outside of it, close
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  enough to touch it, but close enough to playing that other sandbox. So
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  as a dude that has that's had a song on rock radio, I can't
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  speak negatively to people that are kind of dancing over into this genre. I
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  think it's kind of cool that they're fans of country music and spend time in
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  that space. I do think that different people do it for different reasons and
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  without being specific on that, like you know, you know what the reasoning
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  is, and if somebody does it just to kind of with with a weird
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  agenda, you know. The post thing though, I feel like just a
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  natural fit for him. Dude's a country music fan. He wrote some country
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  stuff he likes, you know, he likes country music. What's wrong with
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  that dude on some stuff out or format? Don't follow me up, beer,
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  I think it's cool. Ship and he's cover is the genre. He
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  did a cover of Merle Haggard that went that went viral on TikTok a while
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  back. Like the dude is it's it's almost like country first, but like
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  the rap pop thing just happened. Yeah, well everybody's he ain't country this
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  or he's a rapper. Dude, Look at that dude playing those sessions in
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  the studio. He's smoking cigarettes. He's doing the ship that fucking Whaling and
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  them did when they were in the studio, you know what I mean.
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  Like he's to me again, what makes us o country is what it's about
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  that And that's obviously my opinion. Somebody else is gonna have an opinion that
• 22:40
  something's got a rap beat in it or if it doesn't. You know,
• 22:41
  if you're gonna play in Texas, you gotta have a fiddle in the Van
• 22:45
  Tyck stuff. I don't have a fiddle player, you know what I mean.
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  You know what I'm saying. So we're not cool, you know what
• 22:52
  I mean. We are what we are. Come see it, you know,
• 22:56
  judge it for yourself. But as far as the TikTok thing, I
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  all ad meant when it first started happening, you know, especially being a
• 23:03
  dude that's been around for a minute. In this business, you go from
• 23:06
  being nominated for new artists to an old guy, you know what I mean.
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  They nominates you for new artists about five six years in a row,
• 23:15
  and then then you're the old guy. So we've been around, man,
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  if you know, I've been doing this full time. It's been my main
• 23:22
  gig for twenty years. This year twenty four, man, we come up
• 23:29
  a lot different. TikTok went around. We came up playing hole in the
• 23:33
  wall bars to you know, sometimes five ten people. When you play that
• 23:40
  room until you can't fit the crowd in there anymore, and you go up
• 23:44
  to the next size room in that town. And we worked all the way
• 23:47
  up to you know, arenas and sheds, which is I mean to me,
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  that's a huge thing. Something we're super proud of us surrounding myself with
• 23:57
  really solid people. Man, in the last twenty years, we built something
• 24:00
  that you don't see every day. But also it's it's something that was built
• 24:08
  organically in something that grew along the way, kind of coming up the old
• 24:12
  school way. And I take pride in that, right. You know.
• 24:18
  Then it seems like these some some some folks come on the scene and it's
• 24:22
  just overnight, they wake up and you know, they're playing some of the
• 24:26
  same room as we are. And at first it was it was kind of
• 24:27
  like a little stand like it was a little shot to the gut. It's
• 24:33
  like, man, you know, like we play some nights, you wouldn't
• 24:36
  make enough to get to the next time. You have to stay play extra
• 24:38
  night, just get gas money to get to the next one, you know.
• 24:41
  But I look at some of these guys now as opposed to it being
• 24:48
  you know, something that hurts my feelings or pisses me off, I don't.
• 24:52
  I don't have that approach at all. I see it as it advantageous
• 24:56
  for us. I think it was beneficial to come up that way. You
• 24:59
  know, there's there's parts of touring that I feel like a lot of those
• 25:03
  guys come in really green, right, you throw them in front of thousands
• 25:07
  of people when you came up, I don't, I don't care who you
• 25:11
  are. Play into that room of five or ten people that don't know who
• 25:12
  the hell you are. You have to learn how to communicate with them.
• 25:15
  You have to learn how to read an audience. And that's something that a
• 25:19
  lot of folks coming from the TikTok side of things don't necessarily have as far
• 25:25
  as live show experience, you know, something they have to kind of acquire
• 25:29
  on the fly. So, you know, I kind of see it as
• 25:32
  beneficial that we came up that way, and it's kind of like earning your
• 25:34
  strikes to and paying dues and not that. But I think they're doing some
• 25:40
  of the same stuff. It's just different now. And you know, I
• 25:44
  don't. I don't spend a whole lot of time on social media. I
• 25:48
  don't lie, I don't. I don't have my passwords to my accounts for
• 25:51
  real. I just there's there's reasons behind that. But I mean, you
• 25:57
  know, if somebody shows up on the scene and they were on TikTok last
• 26:00
  night, you know, and they're in arena tomorrow. They're on a big
• 26:04
  tour tomorrow. Hey man, more power to them. You know. Well,
• 26:08
  look at it. Guys got a plan for everybody, and and uh,
• 26:12
  you know, he's he's got a purpose for everything and to each his
• 26:17
  own. You know, everybody's gonna find their way. And I guess it
• 26:21
  all comes down to putting your best foot forward on stage. And I'll put
• 26:25
  us up against anybodyny day in the week. The funny thing about TikTok,
• 26:30
  I'm glad you said that you're more accepting of it now than you were because
• 26:34
  we have a little extra time with you. So we're gonna try a dance
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  on the stage out here. Kid. I just want to see if he
• 26:44
  got up and left. Last thing I want to ask you was myc arena.
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  Yeah, Grandpa, the dances are bro No, that is the original.
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  What anybody said, Hey, five bucks? If he Mocarina next time
• 26:59
  on stay is okay? Five? I got twenty five? Why not do
• 27:06
  it? Last thing I want to ask is collapse are more dominating country music
• 27:11
  than ever? Right like now? If someone puts out a song if someone
• 27:14
  else isn't on it, it's like, what don't you like anybody anymore?
• 27:18
  Uh? You just friend. The first offering we got off of this album
• 27:22
  is with Ashley Cook, who was a part of our on the Verse program
• 27:26
  with iHeart Why Ashley a rock star bro. We played a show with her
• 27:30
  a couple of years back, and it was when she was she was really
• 27:34
  new and she got on stage and owned it. Like everybody in that crowd
• 27:38
  was singing every word, you know what I mean? And I remember respecting
• 27:42
  the hell out of that. But you know that's that's like you said,
• 27:47
  it's a big thing now. So that was a song that we wrote at
• 27:51
  a retreat. Jelly Roll and h we're working on an album and we've been
• 27:55
  working on it forever and uh that way, didn't you just tell us that
• 27:59
  you and Jail you have a song? Oh, we got a bunch of
• 28:02
  them, man, we just got to finish it. Both those that to
• 28:04
  slow down long enough to finish it. But no, that was one of
• 28:08
  the songs we wrote that. I mean, you don't want to see me
• 28:12
  and Jolly Roe singing that back and forth to each other. You probably don't
• 28:15
  somebody might I don't. It would make a great TikTok, you know,
• 28:22
  bro just saying here stadiums, here we come. But that was one of
• 28:30
  those that there were a few songs that just weren't gonna fit an album with
• 28:33
  you and I, and this was one of those. And man, I
• 28:36
  fell in love with this song well before we were done with it. I
• 28:38
  mean I remember getting halfway through the chorus and being like, man, this
• 28:42
  this, this is the things they am after. Man, this has got
• 28:45
  some jews. Uh. So, you know, once we figured out,
• 28:49
  I think all of us knew it was one of those that you heard first
• 28:52
  time and everybody kind of knew it was going on the album. So the
• 28:56
  conversation becomes, okay, it's definitely a du a to who with. And
• 29:02
  you know, there were several ideas that came across the table. One that
• 29:04
  I loved was Pink. Somebody brought Pink up, and you know, that
• 29:10
  was kind of a conversation and the more I thought about it was like,
• 29:12
  it'd be really cool and I'd love to do a song with her at some
• 29:15
  point in my career. But in this chapter of my career, knowing that
• 29:18
  this song was going to be a single, knowing that we were probably gonna
• 29:23
  go to radio with it. Like I wanted somebody that was hungry and somebody
• 29:29
  that would work the song with me, and uh, you know, we
• 29:33
  threw lots of names across the board. It wasn't like we wrote the song
• 29:37
  and immediately you know, gods, that's an Ashley cooked song. That's that's
• 29:40
  who fits in that part. It was like it was a long conversation and
• 29:44
  it was. It was a long thought out process. And I remember at
• 29:48
  one point my producer, Rob berry Hill had had done some work with actually
• 29:51
  and he brought her name up, and I remember playing that show with her
• 29:56
  and how she owned that shit. And I remember going straight the streaming service
• 30:02
  and pulling her album up and seeing it was twenty four songs as an up
• 30:04
  and coming female. That was just gutsy. To me. It was ballsy,
• 30:08
  and I respected to sit out of it. And you look at the
• 30:11
  credits on that album, and she's not standing by watching the world go by.
• 30:15
  She's involved in the grain and the level, you know, on the
• 30:19
  songwriting side of things as well as the performance, and y'all listen to her
• 30:25
  voice and seemed like it might be something that could work when we approached that
• 30:27
  camp, and man, she's just she's a freaking rock star, dude,
• 30:32
  and she's she's a hard worker, and it's it's it's dude, I couldn't
• 30:37
  be I couldn't be happier. Like we talked on the phone about it,
• 30:41
  uh, text back and forth, and once once she got in the studio,
• 30:45
  I remember like her producer sent us like a kind of a board mix
• 30:51
  that night and it was like, oh yeah, that that was the call.
• 30:55
  She knocked it out of the freaking part. Uh. And since then
• 30:59
  I didn't know I didn't know her very well. You know, we'd played
• 31:03
  the show together, we talked of it, but hanging out with her and
• 31:07
  working this soul whatever, she's she's a trip, but she's a straight she's
• 31:11
  a straight work orse rock star. Got to wait till September, but the
• 31:15
  album is coming. We got details, we got some songs coming out in
• 31:18
  between now and then September thirteen, let's go the world's largest album release,
• 31:23
  part blocking off Broadway. Man, it's the weekend of the National Nationville Grand
• 31:30
  Prix Us. We're kind of piggybacking off it, and we're going to turn
• 31:34
  downtown into an album release party, Let's go. I love it well,
• 31:38
  we're excited for your congrats. And the last thing I want to ask,
• 31:41
  because you brought it up and if this plays back, someone's gonna be like,
• 31:44
  how did you not ask? Are you working on songs with Jelly?
• 31:48
  Are you guys trying to put together the whole album? A little bit of
• 31:51
  both? I mean, he's he like at this time currently, you know,
• 31:56
  I mean here lately they've been running both of us to him more so
• 32:01
  than us. I don't know how he's doing it, but you know,
• 32:06
  there hadn't been any spare time to work on it. But a few months
• 32:09
  back we found some gaps and got in the studio when we spent a week
• 32:14
  in there at one point, and it was like the who's who of Nashville
• 32:16
  songwriters came out to Lee Brice's farm and it's close enough to town where you
• 32:22
  know, they could still be home at night, they could write with the
• 32:24
  rights they had scheduled that day and then bounce out there and write with us.
• 32:28
  And the whole thing was if you got an idea that's against the grain
• 32:31
  out of pocket that you have been able to put on any other project,
• 32:36
  to write with any other artists bringing that shit. Let's write it that.
• 32:39
  It was a revolving door of just the who's who writes good stuff. It
• 32:44
  was wild to be a part of. But there have been songs that came
• 32:47
  out of that retreat that he cut on his album, their songs off that
• 32:52
  retreat that I cut on Mind, and I think eventually down the road,
• 32:57
  probously probably a whole project a man brandly appreciate the time, brother, brother,
• 33:00
  appreciate you having me look at that. Bam Bo