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Cooper Flagg the greatest freshman in the modern era ? NBA's Playoffs teams Ceilings & Floors! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode number one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh one of the so called sports anaists. Josh, how you.
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and one and talk some NBA March madness
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  Speaker 2: is almost done, the final four is here. NBA starts
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  Speaker 2: their playoffs in a week, so it's getting it's getting
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  Speaker 2: busy out there, so we're about to get into it
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  Speaker 2: a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, for sure. And we were supposed to
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  Speaker 1: like sports. But all right, let's go Ahad and get
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  Speaker 1: into a josh. And like you mentioned, as far as
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  Speaker 1: college basketball, it's about to be over. So this Saturday
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  Speaker 1: there's gonna be the final four games. Then money it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be the championship game. So we're gonna kind of
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  Speaker 1: have to predict what's gonna happen. But as far as
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  Speaker 1: what has happened or what happened to be for us
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  Speaker 1: to get to this point, Aarburn beat Michigan State, Florida
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  Speaker 1: beat your beloved Texas Tech due be Houston beat Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: So out of all these games, which one was the
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  Speaker 1: most interesting to watch?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm being honest, I think it's the
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  Speaker 2: game that we played. If we're being Texas Tech versus
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  Speaker 2: Florida was probably the most interesting. It was a good
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  Speaker 2: It was probably one of the best games to watch.
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  Speaker 2: If I'm being honest, I think Tech they they were
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  Speaker 2: dominating almost the entirety of the game. Not in the
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  Speaker 2: entirety of the game. It was still pretty close until
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  Speaker 2: Tech separated by like ten points.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then at that moment I.
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  Speaker 2: Felt like, oh, we were gonna win this game because
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  Speaker 2: we were easily dominating the glass. We were we were
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  Speaker 2: we were getting into the interior. Whenever we wanted, we
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  Speaker 2: were hitting our threes, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: the ties just switched. Yeah, the ties just switched when
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  Speaker 2: it came came down to it, and Florida kind of
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  Speaker 2: locked in, and Walter Clayton Junior turned into prime Stephen
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  Speaker 2: Curry and started running to the three point line and
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  Speaker 2: jacking up shots, and then JT. Topping and Darren Williams
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  Speaker 2: got to the free throw line and missed some big
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  Speaker 2: ones and it cost us the game. And that's just
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  Speaker 2: execution is key. And we just didn't we didn't close
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  Speaker 2: out that. We didn't close out the close out the game.
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  Speaker 2: And I takes to tekems out on the final four
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  Speaker 2: in Florida, sitting there about to play some Auburn play
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  Speaker 2: against the Auburn bat, Auburn play against Auburn in this
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  Speaker 2: next one.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, and I just think that, well, I
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  Speaker 1: was telling you about the barbershop. Whenever Clayton he had
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  Speaker 1: that side step three to tie it, and then Ford
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  Speaker 1: he grabbed the rebound, like you said, he could have
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  Speaker 1: went up for a layup, but decided to just turn
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  Speaker 1: all the way back around, just hit it three. He
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  Speaker 1: was just on a different level. And what do he
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  Speaker 1: had thirty four something like that that it was something crazy.
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  Speaker 1: But also one more thing, the last time all four
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  Speaker 1: number one seeds made the Final four, it was two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and eight. So this is rare territory that we're
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  Speaker 1: having here. I already gave that stat last week as
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  Speaker 1: far as US only having one six seed in Under,
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  Speaker 1: So there's another anomaly continuing right here. So as far
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  Speaker 1: as some of these other games, Houston, Houston, Tennessee, Duke Bama,
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  Speaker 1: those were pretty much out of the water. And like
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  Speaker 1: I was saying before, I think Auburn the Michigan State,
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  Speaker 1: even though it looked close, it seemed like Auburn they
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  Speaker 1: pretty much had the had the advantage the entire time.
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  Speaker 1: But as far as with these games right here, Auburn,
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  Speaker 1: let's start Aubert versus Florida. What are you thinking? What's
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  Speaker 1: your main takeaway? How are you going to break down
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  Speaker 1: this game?
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  Speaker 2: So I think Florida definitely has the interior. The interior
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  Speaker 2: on this team. They definitely definitely definitely bothered Texas Tech
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  Speaker 2: on their side of the ball, being able to create
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  Speaker 2: second chance opportunities Florida. Florida was definitely able to do that,
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  Speaker 2: especially down the stretch against US. And then I Auburn
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  Speaker 2: is with Johnny Broom, They're dealing with some injuries from
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  Speaker 2: one of their key playmakers and probably one of their
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  Speaker 2: most important pieces when it comes to the front court.
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  Speaker 2: For is if he's gonna be fully healthy coming into
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  Speaker 2: this game after taking a hard fall on his ankle,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be big when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: playing this game because he is arguably their most important player,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know how much of a of a
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  Speaker 2: detriment that's gonna be to this Auburn basketball team. So
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  Speaker 2: right now, mainly because of that, I'm leaning towards a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, leaning towards Florida a little bit more in
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  Speaker 2: this game. I think it's gonna be a close, fun game.
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  Speaker 2: I just think due to that, I think Florida gets
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  Speaker 2: the edge for me to to get to get the
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  Speaker 2: win over Auburn.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm I'm leaning towards Florida too. And just
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  Speaker 1: as of right now or even these past three games,
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  Speaker 1: of what Clayton Junior he's been doing, he's just been
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  Speaker 1: on an absolute loutterr and we may look back at
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  Speaker 1: this as one of the top twenty or thirty performances,
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  Speaker 1: individual performances where a guy is just scorching up the
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  Speaker 1: basketball or this tournament right here, and just what he's
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  Speaker 1: doing right now. Like you're saying the injuries to Auburn,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to lean towards Florida. Not because they're
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  Speaker 1: in my championship pick, definitely not because of that, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm definitely leaning towards Florida right here. But all right,
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  Speaker 1: Duke in Houston right here, I didn't even mention Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Florida they're favored by two and a half for any
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  Speaker 1: betters out there, but Duke, they're minus five and a
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  Speaker 1: half versus Houston right here. So who do you think
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  Speaker 1: is winning this one?
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  Speaker 2: I understand them. Houston has had a very good year,
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  Speaker 2: but I think Duke's on a different level this year.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the way that Tyree's proctors playing right now,
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  Speaker 2: hitting all the big shots when needed. They and then
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  Speaker 2: a Cooper Flak and what's his name, Nuple, I can't
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  Speaker 2: even say his name, Yeah, newpel whatever. He number seven
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  Speaker 2: does his very well and he's able to create a
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  Speaker 2: lot of open opportunities, especially as Cooper flag is able
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  Speaker 2: to create a lot of open opportunities. He he is
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  Speaker 2: able to kick out to Tyrese Proctor and number and
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  Speaker 2: number seven. I sound like a new when saying that,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I do, but his name is just
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  Speaker 2: hard to say. But he's able to create opportunities for
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  Speaker 2: these guys and they're able to get wide open shots.
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  Speaker 2: And we even saw this in the last game. Our
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  Speaker 2: biggest thing was that Arizona likes to play bully ball
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  Speaker 2: a little bit against smaller teams, and we saw they
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  Speaker 2: were able to hold their own just for a little
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  Speaker 2: bit versus versus Duke. But it just wasn't enough, even
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  Speaker 2: with Kayla Love going pretty much insane with thirty five,
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  Speaker 2: he had thirty five points. It just wasn't enough. And
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  Speaker 2: I think Houston needing players to kind of step up
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  Speaker 2: and play and have a who's gonna match Cooper Flag
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  Speaker 2: and is the rest of the team gonna follow suit?
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  Speaker 2: I think I trust Cooper Flag and the Duke Blue
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  Speaker 2: Devils a lot more than I trust Houston in this game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. And then another thing that I want
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  Speaker 1: to bring up is that.
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  Speaker 2: Though cop kon noopkon Kanu.
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  Speaker 1: However you say his name, but so I'm looking at
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  Speaker 1: it right now as far as this Duke, as far
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  Speaker 1: as this offense right here there, they've been scorched earth
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  Speaker 1: and the worst they've shot, which was their first game
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  Speaker 1: from the tournament, was thirty eight percent from three to
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  Speaker 1: fifty percent as far as overall. Then after that they
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  Speaker 1: went fifty four percent. Then they went down, they went
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  Speaker 1: down to forty seven percent, forty seven percent, which is
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  Speaker 1: still damn great from three. Then they went back up
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  Speaker 1: to fifty four percent. So they're just shooting the lights
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  Speaker 1: out of the ball right now. And I just think
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  Speaker 1: that the way Duke is playing in Cooper Flag easily
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  Speaker 1: being the best player in college basketball, which we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get to in a second. I just think that Duke,
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  Speaker 1: they're they're just too damn good. And what Cooper Flag.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like he's I know, he's already this polished
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  Speaker 1: all around player, and he's been more of a facilitator
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  Speaker 1: throughout this tournament in my opinion, But in that first
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  Speaker 1: half versus Arizona, he was ultra aggressive and scoring whenever
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to. He could get a shut whenever he
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  Speaker 1: needs to, and I just think that whenever he hit
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  Speaker 1: that pull up three versus Arizona was pretty much now
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  Speaker 1: on the coffin Bama. They pretty much had no chance Duke.
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  Speaker 1: They just front run them and they'd never even let
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  Speaker 1: them get a chance. But yeah, I know I have
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  Speaker 1: Duke going right here. So Florida versus Duke. Obviously there's
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  Speaker 1: no line because it hasn't happened yet, But all right,
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  Speaker 1: Clayton Clayton Junior. I always forget his first name. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I'll say Clault. Yeah, Walker, Walker Clayton Junior. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you so. Having one of the best college individual bracket
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  Speaker 1: seasons and you have Cooper Flag, just the best player
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  Speaker 1: in college basketball right now? Who would win Florida or Duke.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Duke, and I'm gonna allude back
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  Speaker 2: to the game versus Texas Tech. Texas Tech went cold
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  Speaker 2: from three. We seen them do that multiple times in
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  Speaker 2: this tournament. They went cold from the field and kind
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  Speaker 2: of put themselves in tougher positions. And we saw that
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  Speaker 2: versus multiple teams in this tournament that Texas Tech was
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  Speaker 2: doing that, and in this one. In that last game,
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  Speaker 2: Florida went into a four minute drought, and we often
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  Speaker 2: see them kind of wait till the second half to
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  Speaker 2: start getting going on offense, and for the majority of
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  Speaker 2: the season and even in this tournament, you can't do
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  Speaker 2: that Versus Duke. I mean kN Kaannople, who's averaging twenty
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  Speaker 2: and a half points over the last three games. I
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  Speaker 2: believe Tyrese Proctor, who's really gone scorch earth from three
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  Speaker 2: over the last two games ever since Coper Flag has
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  Speaker 2: really gone back into full health. And then the man himself,
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  Speaker 2: Cooper Flag, isn't gonna I don't think he's gonna shy
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  Speaker 2: away from the moment. I think he's built for this.
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  Speaker 2: I think Walker Clayton Junior and everyone that they have
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  Speaker 2: at Florida, they've done very well. But you can't get
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  Speaker 2: into those type of stumps versus a team like Duke,
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  Speaker 2: and I think Duke's gonna easily win their way through
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  Speaker 2: the tournament and win the national championship.
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  Speaker 1: Oh dang, you think it's easy. It's not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: close at all. No oooh okay, Okay, well, well I
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  Speaker 1: have the exact same I have.
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  Speaker 2: I say they win by eight, They win by eight.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I don't know when college basketball's a little
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  Speaker 1: bit different, because eight, that's kind of that's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of points right there. I feel like in college basketball
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  Speaker 1: compared to like the NBA, where or it's like eight
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  Speaker 1: eight in college basketball is like fifteen eighteen points, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like in the ABA because it's just a much
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  Speaker 1: slower game. But no, okay, so I have Duke went
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  Speaker 1: in too. And also also our bracket that we made,
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  Speaker 1: we did have Duke versus Florida as far as the
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  Speaker 1: bracket that we made on here, so it's pretty it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty accurate. We did have Auburn, but we had Tennessee
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  Speaker 1: going to the final four. We had Tennessee going to
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  Speaker 1: the Final four, so it wasn't so far off from us.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe all the outside stuff it was off, but as
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  Speaker 1: far as like the final four, we got that pretty
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  Speaker 1: accurate right there. So so yeah, no, pretty good job.
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  Speaker 1: But y'all know, here's here's the main thing that we
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about here, Cooper Flag as far as
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  Speaker 1: what he's been doing, and we're talking a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about it before. So Cooper Flag, what he's doing as
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  Speaker 1: a freshman could possibly possibly be one of the greatest
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  Speaker 1: seasons in modern basketball. And Josh, I know you have
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  Speaker 1: some stats, so you going to say those.
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  Speaker 2: So we're looking we were looking at some of the
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  Speaker 2: few players and why we say modern basketball, because if
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  Speaker 2: we look at, you know, the times of Will, if
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  Speaker 2: we look at the times of Kareem Abdul Jabbar, their
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  Speaker 2: stats were just completely insane, especially Creak and college. Three
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  Speaker 2: straight national championships, averages around twenty seven points over his
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  Speaker 2: entirety of his career. His his college stature is just
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  Speaker 2: out of this world. So we're we're kind of limiting
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  Speaker 2: it to more recently and around like from from I
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  Speaker 2: want to say, at least from honestly the eighties, I
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  Speaker 2: mean before the eighties, were kind of discluding it because
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  Speaker 2: it's just different. Yeah yeah, but now. But the four
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  Speaker 2: players that were kind of comparing him to, right, the
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  Speaker 2: three players were kind of comparing him to is Kevin Durant,
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  Speaker 2: Carmelo and Anthony Davis. You all had amazing seasons. And
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  Speaker 2: we look at Anthony davis stats. He won every award
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  Speaker 2: there was known to win, First team everything, first Team,
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  Speaker 2: All Defense, Defensive Player of the Year, National Player the Year, NCAA,
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  Speaker 2: Most Outstanding Tournament, He won every award. Fourteen points per game,
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  Speaker 2: ten blocks per game, I mean ten rebounds per game,
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  Speaker 2: and five blocks per game. And then even in the
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  Speaker 2: National Championship, his scoring went down. He only went one
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  Speaker 2: for ten, but sixteen rebounds and I believe like four
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  Speaker 2: four or five blocks in that game. He made up
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  Speaker 2: for it on the other end of the basketball. So
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  Speaker 2: I think that season arguably is up there as the
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  Speaker 2: best freshman season of all time. But then we look
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  Speaker 2: at Carmelo Anthony Natty Most Outstanding Player Award MVP East
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  Speaker 2: Regional MVP, and he won the National Championship while averaging
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  Speaker 2: twenty two to ten. So that's another good arguable arguable
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  Speaker 2: person there. And then we get Kevin Durant twenty five
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  Speaker 2: and eleven nearly two blocks. He had nearly he had
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  Speaker 2: twenty five to eleven per game, two blocks per game,
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  Speaker 2: two steals per game. He didn't win a national championship,
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  Speaker 2: but he was National Player of the Year. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: all those they all have arguments for it. And we're
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  Speaker 2: looking at Cooper Flag per Flag averages eighteen point nine
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  Speaker 2: points per game, seven and a half rebounds, four point
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  Speaker 2: two assists, one point three blocks, one point four stills.
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  Speaker 2: So he's doing it all. He's doing everything you need
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  Speaker 2: him to do. He's had big moments, scoring forty two
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  Speaker 2: points in a basketball game this so far this season,
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  Speaker 2: taking over a scoring thirty last game. And then he's
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  Speaker 2: won National Player of the Year and won freshman National
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  Speaker 2: Player of the Year. And I'm sure when the first
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  Speaker 2: teams come around, he's going to be on all of them.
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  Speaker 2: Defensive teams, He's gonna come around and be on all
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  Speaker 2: of them when they start coming out. But the only
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  Speaker 2: thing that he's missing right now is that national championship.
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  Speaker 2: And if he wins that national championship, I think you
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  Speaker 2: could argue Cooper Flags as the best freshman in the
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  Speaker 2: hit of modern basketball, of modern college basketball, he had
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  Speaker 2: the best freshman season.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I say for sure, even if, like, since
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  Speaker 1: we're doing that hypothetical, let's do this hypothetical right here.
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  Speaker 1: As far as say, if Cooper Flag ends up losing
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  Speaker 1: here in the final four, that's still a better resume
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  Speaker 1: than Kevin Durant in my opinion. So I feel like
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, he's already argued up there, But Cooper Flag
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  Speaker 1: has better stats because he has more assists. He doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have more blocks or rebounds in Anthony Davis, but as
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  Speaker 1: far as compared to everybody else, he has more points
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  Speaker 1: he has more rebounds and more assists. He's actually a
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  Speaker 1: better passer than all three of those guys right there,
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  Speaker 1: And I just think that even if he loses right here,
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  Speaker 1: he's by far even a top five. I know that
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  Speaker 1: there was some guys on the outside, like a Zion,
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  Speaker 1: Greg Oden, Trey Young, but those guys don't even sniff
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  Speaker 1: those guys, those top three right there. I just think that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if he loses right here in this final four, it's
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  Speaker 1: still gonna go down as one of the best seasons
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  Speaker 1: because I know, or actually I think the counter argument
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  Speaker 1: would be that there's gonna be multiple first round picks
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  Speaker 1: on this RUSS on this roster right here. I think
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  Speaker 1: that'll be the only downside right there, because I can't
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  Speaker 1: remember anybody. I'm pretty sure that was somebody on Kentucky
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  Speaker 1: with the Anthony Davis team that was. I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: it was a first round pick. They always have a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of first round picks, Sarahcuse know they didn't in Texas, No,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't. So I think that'll be the only downside
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  Speaker 1: right there as far as multiple first round picks on
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  Speaker 1: that team. But I say, by far, if he wins
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  Speaker 1: a championship. It's it's clearcut, it's set in stone. In
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  Speaker 1: my opinion. It may be recentcy biased, it may be
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  Speaker 1: recently biased, but just watching him play, and I just
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  Speaker 1: think that he's the most complete or at least from
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  Speaker 1: i've because I pay attention to the like March basketball,
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  Speaker 1: as far as the bracket wise, whenever the bracket starts,
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  Speaker 1: he looks like the most complete player and like there's
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  Speaker 1: no slumps or nothing with them. He's just real consistent.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna get your eighteen nine and five assists right there.
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  Speaker 1: So so, yeah, but I don't know. I just think
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  Speaker 1: that maybe maybe Hakeem, I don't know Hakeem what he
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  Speaker 1: made it to the championship and lost.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, they lost in the national championship.
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  Speaker 1: No, but there's there's nobody else that I could I
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  Speaker 1: could think of by chance, No, I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think so. I don't think so. No. But all right, So,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: or is there anything else you want to talk about
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: as far as with this or go ahead and get
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: into the draft that we have right here.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get into the draft. But I think Cooper
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Flag was a national championship. There's going to be a discussion.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well we're already having that discussion right now.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it was you saw an article that
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: it was predicted at the beginning of the season.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, November twenty twenty four, that that'should say everything.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: But no, all right, So in the spirit of college
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: basketball right here, we're gonna do a fantasy draft. Word
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: include players from Duke, Auburn, Florida, and Houston, but as
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: far as taking their NBA careers, not their collegiate career,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: their NBA career. So you said an eight man rotation, right,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: mm hmm, okay, let me set this up really quick, shooting.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: And Duke is definitely carrying this draft. Guy, Yeah, we
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: are just saying Duke is definitely carrying this draft.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we what was it, over one hundred and
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: three players they played for Duke or one hundred and two,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: one hundred and two.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: A lot of these Houston, Auburn, Florida top heavy players.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: But once you get past like the top five players
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: that they have, it drops dramatically.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Hold on, wait, I'm trying to do this on the
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: fly right here. So how I said Duke has one
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: hundred and two players combining all the other three schools,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: as far as players that made it, say, the NBA
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: was one hundred and twelve gang, so that that's just
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: say it right there, as far as and.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Duke's about to have three alone in this draft in
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the first round.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: So yeah, no for real, well, especially with Cooper Flag
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: right here potentially being an all time great. But all right, Josh,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: heads are tails?
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Give me heads?
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Hey, Siri, flip a coin. I know you can't hold on. Wait,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: let's see it, says tells.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Tells, all right, yeah, back and forth, yeah, back and forth.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, all right, so let me let me
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: not be dumb right here. I'm gonna take the guy
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: who's the most accomplished. Right here, I'm gonna have to
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: take mister Hakeem Elijah Wan at my five. I should
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: have just passed up on it, just.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Because taking the easy way, the easy way, damn.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Right, it was rough for me in this fantasy draft.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Will take the second, the second most accomplished player, and
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: give me Charles Barkley.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: What do you want to rebound? Rebound?
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Do you want to put Charles Barkley at my four?
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: At my he's six six sixty six, right.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I think I'll leave that up to determine nation when
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: we get.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so all right now just to get to
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Duke now, because pretty much everybody else they're not that good.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: No disrespect to them, but kind of kind of a
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: little bit disrespectful. But all right, I have two names
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: right here because I already know the one that I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: don't take. You're gonna take right here. I think, just
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: as far as for overall basketball, he's he's better overall,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: probably not peak, but give me Jason Tatum right here,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and I don't get him. I'll put him at I
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: won't put him at my four, I won't put.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Thank you for leaving me, give me, give me Kyrie Irv.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was gonna be for sure
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: one of those two right there. But all right.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Interesting, it's interesting now now.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: We get into the actual draft because we had those
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: players right there that were pretty much just easy. Yeah,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: So all right, well not really no need to look
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: at Arburn no more. Honestly, I'm gonna just I would
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: just close that tab because if the second best player
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: from there is Mike Mitchell, which I don't even know
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: where Mike Mitchell, what team he even played for? At all.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: So let's Smith.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Jabari Smith would have. Guy, you know what, gimme Jared mcnaw.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I'm kidding, give me okay, I'm looking, I'm looking. You
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: know what. Let's make this a physical team right here.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Give me Zion right here.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, give me.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Zion my three. I see, actually actually trust this because
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Zion's a passer. He averages like six seven assists or wait,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: do they have to play their position? That's to play
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: their position?
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I mean we're in positionless basketball now.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: So I don't really put him at my one.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, if we're based off team from this morning, yeah,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: we're definitely in positionlessstball.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, for real, No, I'm telling you, the more
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I looked at that team, the more I liked it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Right there, I'm like, okay, yo, kids surrounded by a
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: bunch of shooters than one cutter in russ.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: That the defense is gonna be terrible.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: They're gonna score like one to twenty, but they're gonna
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: give up one thirty.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah all right, So my next pick, so you went, Zion,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I guess to kind of counteract that, just a little bit,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: based off a man hold on, I need kind of
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: a defensive presence you can follow. M hmm. Yeah, see,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I was gonna I'm going toward. I'm leaning towards Powlo
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, that's kind of a heart.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking. Like you, you might have to go,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: you might have to go pollow unless there's somebody else.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: There's there's Brandon Ingram, there's lou All, Dang Carlos.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Pollo Benchero because he
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: does it all on the basketball court. So I'm gonna
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: go Pollo.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: What do you want him have?
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I'll figure that out once we get towards the end.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I'll situate this team.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, Well, I'm.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Gonna have one of the hardest fantasy drafts who've ever done.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Completely for this one's challenging. Okay, I know, no disrespect
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: to this guy because he's a Hall of Famer. He
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: people these old heads probably listen said, oh, he probably
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: should have gone as one of the first three picks.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: But no, I'm gonna take Yeah, I'm gonna take Clyde Drex.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put him. I'm gonna put him out
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: my two right here. But compared to these other guys
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that he would have been drafted over them, and in
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: this modern basketball no, he definitely wouldn't have been drafted
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: over him.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So I'm kinda kind of put a
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: mister reliable on my in my in my front court,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: mister al Horford.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Al Horford, that's a nice so at your center.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: We'll get there when we get there.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I just have your team, Blake, besides Kyrie. That's all
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I have it. I just have it like that.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: He's the only one know where he's playing right now?
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah for real?
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: No, but all right, well yeah, I think he'll be
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: my five. I think Alhurford will be my five.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: That was gonna be five, Okay, Yeah, I'm stuck between
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: two guys right here. As far as who do I
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: want as.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: My strategy, I think if it falls into the way
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I want it to, it's gonna be a good strap.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: As my three. You know what? Give me? Damn, this
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: is tough, gim No. I don't like I don't like
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the brandon Ingram fit with with him at the three
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: with Zion because Zion's gonna be with the ball. Yeah,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: there's Brandon Ingram there. But I want to I know
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I want to find more of a shooter. You know what,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: give me Grant Hill off the bench. I know I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: have my three open, but.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: That was gonna be my next pick, Bro, that would
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: be my next pick. Well then, all right at my two,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: am I two? Give me just for pure shooting kind
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: of the way you were going, give me JJ Reddick.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Damn it, damn it. That was gonna be my other
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: guy off the bench right there.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: So that's I think I have my starting five. All right, Yeah,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: so you JOJ Paula, Charles Barkley, Alf Woodford, Okay, one
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: through five, I one through.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Five, Okay for my three right here, he's more of
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a three and D guy right here, I'm gonna go.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. RJ. Barrett right here. He's a nice
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: he's a nice role player. Let me see Tias Jones.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Trey Jones. If I'm going with anybody, bro.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Bro, Trey Jones for the Bulls. He was shooting like
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: fifty from three. It was oh so easy.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: This is gonna be a an old head break right here,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: like a super old head cook right here. I'm going
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: with Elvin Hayes right now, twenty one and twelve for
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: his career in NBA Hall of Famer, consistent All Star,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: first Team All NBA type of player a B A
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Elvin Hayes bro So get that consistency off. He can
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: come in and play some stager for me. So Elvin
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Hayes is going to be my sixth all right.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: You know what, give me this guy because he was
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: He's a nice guy that I think we both kind
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: of forgot about. I just barely remembered him right now.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Him being off my bench, this guy could give me
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: some buggets. Give me mister Bradley Bill right here.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good pick.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Because I was gonna take JJ over Bradley Bill because
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: he doesn't need the ball. But I feel like, I
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like I know, well, Bradley Bill,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: he is a third option. I know he's gonna be
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: on the bench. He's gonna be on the bench. I
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that, all right.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: For my seventh spot, my seventh spot, this guy is
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: one of my favorite players in the NBA right now.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I'm always on my fantasy team. Mister do it all
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: for the Atlanta Hawks. Give me Jalen and Johnson.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yes, do no. He is he is all right,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: So we're doing eight, right, so this is our last pick?
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Or did you want to do ten?
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Uh? We canna do ten. I don't care. Okay, we
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: have we have list in front of us anyway, So yeah,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I mean we know all the players that are left.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's not like we're It's because I wanted to.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I wanted to take this guy right here, but I
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: didn't know if I was going to be able to.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: So I have on the bulls halt for a reason.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: This guy, he was third in m v P D
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: P O Y one year. Give me Joe Q Noah
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: off my bench, right, Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I was leaning to a Joe Noah a little bit,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: but I took al. I was more it's more consistent,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: and he can he could shoot the three.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Hey that MIDI for Joe Noah. That shot but ugly
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: ass shot. But it was always going in. It was
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: always going in. All right.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: So here basically wife out most of the other teams.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you, like Dead series, I just closed
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: out Auburn. I just said I'm not evenna look at
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: that no more. So if you find a gem on
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Auburn then and.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: That's I'm going to bring another oh, I'm gonna bring
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: in another playmaker off my bench. Oh no, from the
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: University of Florida. Give me Jason Williams.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Damn it. That was gonna be my next pick right there.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Damn it.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: But this offense is gonna be humming that.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: That is a nice pick right there. That is a
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: nice pick. Ooh, Andre Roverson, bro ooh you're missing out.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Bro You're gonna lock one player down. I mean, you're
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: not gonna have very much offense.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: But no, for real, Well, I guess I'm I feel
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: like I'm building like that twenty eleven twenty twelve Chicago
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Bulls right here. But this dude, he really is great.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Right here, I'm give me lou All dang, right here,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Louell dangerous right now.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Next for my draft picks, I guess we're just gonna
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: bring shooters off the bench. Give me Jared McCain. Okay, okay,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: that's a good strategy. Have a deep bench that can
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: score and move the that's what we're building right now.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I think the only guy I'm worried about not shooting
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: is Clyde and Jokim Noah liu all dang, he could
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: knock down some threes.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Wait, have some stooters. I got Jerry McKinney and JJ
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Reddick and Kyrie.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Wait, we just completely like left this guy out. Give
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: me Brandon Ingram for my last pick.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Oh shoot, oh.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Shoot, that that guy could score. He may not be
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: able to hit some threes, but those those middies.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm stuck between two players for my last pick.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Mike Dunlevy, Corey mcghetty, Carlos Boozer.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of stuck. I'm kind of stuck right now.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Is Carlos Boozer one of them? Yeah, Carlos Boozer. Is
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: he on Duke or he's not on Duke?
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on Duke.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Let me see, all right, Duke, there's Ellen Bran, Shane
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: bar I know you're thinking Shane Batty. I'm pretty sure
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: you're thinking Shane Ben.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I'm also thinking Derek Lively.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Derek Lively. That's a nice one too.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: See. I feel like I might regret my draft a
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: little bit.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Mmmm.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Kyle Flipkowski. I'm looking. I'm trying to see if there's
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: anybody else that's popping up. No, there's nobody else, damn it.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Bro Lance Thomas bro cam Reddish cam Reddish, Bro, Bro,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: you get the still of the sentry.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: You know what, you know what?
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: You know what, Wyndell Carter, that's a bro. That's a
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: stretch three.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: You know what. I'm wearing this hat for a reason.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Are you gonna take him?
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I'm wearing this hat for a reason.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Are you gonna take him?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I'm wearing this hat for a reason. Bro, I'm wearing
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: this hat for a reason. Okay, Okay, at my tenth spot,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: at my tenth spot, I'm gonna take the man, the myth,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the legend. Carlos Boozer spot A wrote him down too.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, you really did take that, Barter.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I love me some Red Mamba, but we're not building
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: this team out. We're not riding this team. I'm just
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: gonna if we need a lot of the room, guy,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: we'll take that monitor. Bet. I think I'd rather go
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: with the talent in the in the p on hair
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: with Carlo Hey.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: The painting on here, Hey, that that gave him a
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: superpower right there. It was just that's just made him different.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: But nah, all right, let me list on my team
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: real quick. So I got Zion Clyde Drexer, R. J Barrett,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, Hakim, Elijahuan, Grant Hill, Bradley, Bill Jokim, noahlu
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: All Dang and Brandon Ingram. So line out my ten
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: man rotation. All right, what's yours?
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: All right? On I one, I have Kyrie and my two,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: JJ Reddick at my three. I got Polo at my four.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I got Charles Barkley at my five. I got Al
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Horford on my six. I got Elvin Hayes at my seven,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson my eight, Jason Williams at my nine, Jared
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: McCain and at my ten, Carlos Boozer.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: You you definitely have more three point shooting. You definitely
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: have more three point shooting, which is.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Why I kind of was leaning to Shane Battier towards
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: the end to bring that shooting off the bench. But
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: tell and you also need more interior presence also, So
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Carlos Boozer was the way to go.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: But Boozy Boozer, he could he could shoot the midies.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: He could shoot that.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: He got a medi he got it, he got that
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: MIDI on him.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this, Your team definitely like is more
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: like fit together. But like mine is just more talent.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, y'all gonna work this shit out either way.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like they've.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Seen an eight from Carlos Boozer in his career. I
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: think I'll take that. I'll take sixteen points a game.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I think I don't know who's who's stopping Zion really
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: because if you buy, then all right, who stopping Jason Tatum.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I'll let pollow try Okay, okay, and Jalen Johnson I
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: was with him. I'll switch him back and forth.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: And now the biggest question of them all, Yeah, I know.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Stopping hackem. I get it, I get it. Keep it moving.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Al Horford's gonna try his best, all right.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Hey, Actually, Al Horford he does shut down some of
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: the best centers.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he takes care of his body, like so bro
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: bro mentally be prepared. Is he gonna, Hey, what's the
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: great offense? Is always gonna be great defense? You can
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: only hope to contain.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: So A Horford's definition of that. He's he's a definition
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: of that because what he's locked up.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Can hold his own.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: He's gonna make a Keem stand out outside of the paint.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: He's he's gonna have to respect.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: And that's gonna free up the cutting lanes for some people.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: So, but that's when you have Jason Tatum, you have Zion,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: you have r. J. Barrett, Clyde Drexler. I can't I
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: can't say if he was a defender or not because
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I have I have no fucking clue. I'm not gonna
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: lie to you.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: So so yeah, let's do head coaches. I got coach,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess I'll have to take Billy Donovan. You
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: do that on purpose. You do that on purpose? Right there?
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I know you do that on purpose. I know you
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: do that on purpose. Fucking asshole. You always do that.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Always always leave me with Billy Donovan. What was it
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: last week? I got Jim Boyling and Billy Donovan from
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: my head coaches that keep it cut noah, but no,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: but all right, well, well, speaking of NBA right here,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go and move on to NBA right here.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: I want to see something, okay, okay, oh it was
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Billy Donovan.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Never mind, yeah, yeah, Billy Donald and he went the
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: back to back. Yeah. I know some ball, I know
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: some college basketball some but I'm not gonna act like
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I know as much as you or Ryan or even Alfred.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I really started watching college ball the last two years,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: so caught on pretty quick.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't know like any players. Eventually I
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: need to get like Luke, Like Luke knows. I feel
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: like Luke knows every college basketball. He knows high school problem.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Luke and Ryan would definitely cook us in college basketball.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: No for sure, No, for sure they would.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Because Luke they both keep track of the high school players,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: so they know where they go in the college basketball
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: and like and like, so they know how these guys
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: are in the college basketball. So that's where they win.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's true. That's true. But ye know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: like I was saying, NBA, it's about to start up
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: right here and the playoffs. Like you said, well, playoffs
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: is going to start in like a week and a
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: half too, because playing is going to happen, which pretty
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: much playing in the playoffs. So let me go in
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: and lists off the standings really quick. So you have
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: four the top four seeds they clinched the playoff for
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference, the Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, New York Knicks,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: and Pacers. And you have the five and six, the
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Pistons and Bucks. Then the playing right here you have
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: the Magic Hawks, Heat and Bulls.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of soli right there.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's solidified. It'll just change in the playing pretty much.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: But here's where we get crazy, the crazy Western Conference. Obviously. Okay,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: see we said this last week they clinched the one seed,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: but you have the Rockets, who just clinched the playoffs
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: right now, have a three game lead over everybody else.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Lakers are the three seed right now, Nuggets four, Warriors five,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Timberwolves six. Then the playing it's Clippers, Grizzlies, Mavericks, Kings,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: while the Suns have a chance and technically the Blazers
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: and Spurs have a chance. But it's like point I.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Will say, the Spurs have gone through a gauntlet of
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: teams like this. They have like I want to read
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the schedule real quick, Like.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I'm last Nuggets yesterday. They did beat the Nuggets yesterday.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: So yeah, but dude, freaking Stephan Cash was running away
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: with the freaking bro.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I stand on this till like or four forever. If
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Midus Bozellas actually got pt and early in the season, Bro,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: it would be him and Stephan Castle, Like.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Look, okay, this is since March nineteenth. Hold on, no,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: this is since March seventeenth.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, no, I'm just.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Saying, like the recently games, you know, March seventeenth, Lakers, Nicks,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: seventy six Ers, Raptors. Okay, but Lakers, Knicks, Pistons, Tlves, Celtics, Woms,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Magic Nuggets. Then they got the Calves tomorrow, then they
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: got Portland the game after, then they got the Clippers
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: the game after, then they got Golden State the game after,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: and then they got Phoenix the game after, and then
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: they end the season playing the Raptors.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: But dude, those are three games. You can only mark
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: off three of those games where it's like, okay, they
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: could win these.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but Clippers Wars, Trailblazers, Ceveland is our next five games,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: and then before that we played the Nuggets, Magic Warriors, Celtics, Cavs, Distons.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Did we have a chance to make the play in
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: but we just got hit with like the hardest schedule
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: in the season, and we're playing with Stefan. In the graphics,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: they're not even showing any of those first players besides
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: maybe Jeremy Sohan.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: They like just step Oncastle like on the picture, just
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: like one man like like like that picture of John
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Snow with all the with all the horses and people
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: coming at him in just one sword, like all right,
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: let's do this.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: And he's only playing like twenty five minutes. He's not
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: even getting a full thirty thirty five minutes a game.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah no, but.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I think if Modesty got more pt before,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: like pre January, he'd be right there in Rookie of
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: the Year. It would be him and Stefan Castle.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I think they're just letting Stefan Castle learn how to play.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I just think that. Okay, So
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: do you think Mitch Johnson he's gonna stay or okay, okay,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: let's go ahead and bring up this. Let's go and
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: bring up this. How the Grizzlies coach got fired Taylor Jenkins,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: which kind of goes into what I was gonna ask you, So, uh,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Thomas Islo he became the Grizzlies head coach of France.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: France head coach. So there's Taylor Jenkins right there as
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: far as as far as for the Spurs, or do
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: you want Mitch Johnson there just as a Spurs fan, who.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Would you want to see where I'm at with this.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: It's all still on pop shoulders, Like nothing happens unless
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Pop retires. Is still the head coach of the basketball team.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: He's still the head coach of the San Antonio Spurs.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: He's just out right now. Yeah, so if he unless
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: he moves back, unless he moves to the front office
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: and lets someone else take over. My top three right now,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Taylor Jenkins, Mitch Johnson, and Becky Hammond. Those are the
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: top three that I think are in consideration for the
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: San Antonio Spurs head coaching job. I don't think anyone
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: else unless someone like unless Brett Brown becomes an option,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: but that would be coaching the team right now. I
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: think if I think he had a real sean at
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: becoming the head coach right now, I think it's I
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: think it's between a three way race between Taylor Jenkins,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Mitch Johnson, and Becky Hammond.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, okay, I'll say this about Taylor Taylor Jenkins
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: because I did more research on it, because you know
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: how I was asking you like this was this is
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: a weird firing right here? So I already said about
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Tomas Isolo. So as far as what he does and
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: averages like a one to twenty five rating in the EuroLeague.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: But from the looks of it, as far as so
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: the assistant coach, Noah I can't for or I forgot
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: his last name, him and Taylor Jenkins were running the
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: offense and both of them got fired because according according
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: well I don't know if this is true. This is
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: just off of Twitter, so don't take my word exactly
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: for this, but Joah was getting frustrated because he wasn't
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: the main focal point of the offense so which he
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: was averaging twenty two and seven on okay efficiency, But
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: so that was the main reasons. So these last few games,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: they've been getting John involved and just Taylor Jenkins. Even
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: though he's had regular season success and some playoff success,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: apparently it's not enough and he's seen more as like
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: a what's the word a floor raizer instead of like
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: raising the ceiling, if that makes sense. Like he can
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: make he can make good teams make the playoffs, but
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: he can't make great teams win win championships, if that
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, So I don't know how much you
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: you'd agree with that or what you want to say
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: from that that, I don't.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Know if there's real opportunity in Memphis to see that
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: pan out, if I'm being honest, like, I don't know
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: if there's like a real like outside of John Morant,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: there's no Desmond Bane. Maybe there's no real scorer there.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: There's no real superstar like Drummrant isn't the superstar he
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: was going to be as of right now, if that
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: makes sense, Like right now, I just think he's a
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: good point guard. He's a good point guard, but is
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: he a great point guard? I'm not gonna sit here
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: and see that anymore, Like I he just hasn't shown
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: it twenty two and seven. It doesn't doesn't prove you're
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: a great point guard, you know, like and plus you know,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I just think everyone around him too, Like I feel
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: like they're a defensive squad try that tries to play offense,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: you know, Jylen Wells, defensive player, Zach Edy, defensive player,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Jaren Jackson, junior defensive player desfon Vane. Even though he's
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: a good offensive player, defensive really a defensive player. So
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: this the team doesn't have a lot of ceiling to
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: begin with. When it comes to the offensive end of
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: the offensive end of the basketball court. So I don't
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: know if necessarily you can get if he can become
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: if he can raise the ceiling, because I don't think
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: there's really that much of a floor there to begin
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: with when it comes to the offensive end of the
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: basketball court. But I but that's ahead. But with as
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: far as Mitch Johnson, I think there was points in
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: the year where he showed great spurts of coaching the
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Spurs when Wimby was there, but we never really got
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: to see him really get full use out of the
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Aaron Fox and Wimby because both of them end of
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: the season prematurely. And then and then plus I think
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of rotational issues. Like I think,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I still like there was points in the season where
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Stephan Castle probably should have closed out games playing defense
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: on the best perimeter defender, but rather they opted for
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: other players to be out there. And I think that's
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: just a young coach trying to learn the learn the way,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: and we're realizing now that he's trusting Stephan Castle a
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: lot more. And I'm not saying the Spurs are lighting
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: up the world right now, but they are competing in
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: basketball games. They're they're playing some competing basketball even without
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: their two best players. I know understand this is still
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: a team that has a lot of chemistry because they've
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: been together for quite a while, already for a couple
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: of year seasons. But but the thing is, I think
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Becky Hammond is the dark horse of it all. Like
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I think, I think Becky Hammond getting the experience to
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: run a whole basketball organization in Las Vegas, kind of
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: winning a championship in the w n which doesn't translate,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I think, to the NBA because we've seen college coaches
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: not be able to translate to the NBA style of coaching.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: But Becky Hammond was there. She was in the NBA
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: front off, in the NBA ranks as a coach, as
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: an assistant coach, and she knows Sant and she has
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: that great what's the word I'm looking for, the great
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: relationship already relationship already with the organization. So I think
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: that's I just have a feeling it's going to be her.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know why. I just have a weird feeling
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: that Becky Hammond's gonna be the first women head coach
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: in the NBA.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't be surprising.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Also, It's not something I'm rooting for. I'm just saying that,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: like I would like to see Mitch Johnson become our
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: next head coach.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Okay, so so I feel like this, like
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I have nothing to back this up. But as far
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: as with the Clippers, as far as they've kind of
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: been stagnant these past two three years and bearing like
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: some crazy run there right now, well they could maybe
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: be the sixth seed or stay out of the plan.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: But maybe Tylo, maybe they go in a different way
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: because it's been the same coach for what about six
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: years now at this point, possibly him or I don't know.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I know there's a San Antonio connection here, Mike Budenholzer.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: He may get fired from the Suns after a year.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: And I know those aren't guys or those are older guys,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: but I feel like those are still good head coaches.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I would And there's even.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Quinn Snyder out there too, he coaches the G League team,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: So I think that might be an option.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Also, Okay, Okay, yeah, no, I I could definitely, I
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: could definitely see that right there.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: But and Spurs, I don't think the Spurs like to
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: dip outside of the what will dip outside of the
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: who's ever been there before? Or I don't think they'll
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: dip outside the spurs tree. Yeah, I think if I'm
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: being honest, Yeah, they're going to bring in someone that
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: understands the system.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, for sure, I think so for sure.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: No.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: But all right, well let's go it and talk about
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: which one do you do? You want to start with
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the East or the West right.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Here, it doesn't matter, we can do.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: So let's go in and start with the East and
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Conference right here. So since the playoffs are about to start,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go through the one or ten. We're gonna
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: go with kind of through the pros or cons from
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: each each seed and the floor and ceiling for each one.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: So they're kind of combined, kind of combined at this
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: right here. But all right, let's start with the Cleveland Cavaliers.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: They're five games up with the Celtics right now, pretty
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: much running away with the one seed, So what do
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: you think the floor is for them? And the ceiling
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: or any other things you want to take away?
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with pros and the pros and
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: cons like for all these teams. I think that's gonna
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: help me out a little bit more explained for my
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: pros chemistry. I think chemistry is gonna go a long
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: way for this Cleveland Cavaliers basketball team. I mean, they're
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: they're This unit has been together just as long as
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: anybody in the NBA, and they've really built their team
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: with around their four core pieces Donovan Mitchell, Darius Garland,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Evan Mobley, and Jared Allen. And I think definitely having
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: that chemistry being in the playoffs, losing together already, having
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: players injured last year when they lost to when they
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: lost in the playoffs last season, and Donovan Mitchell kind
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: of having to put the team on his back. I
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: think this year, the chemistry everyone being healthy kind of
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: going into the playoffs is gonna play a huge pivotal role,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: especially adding DeAndre Hunter into the into the mix, and
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: then a couple of other guys that they have there
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: like Max Strews who has played a deep basketball before
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs, who kind of know what to do
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: and it matters the most. And then cons for this
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: basketball team. What's the cons for the Cleveland Cavaliers this year.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know, If I I have one.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I would say one. I would say one. Their three
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: point shooting has been so crazy, like it's bound to
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: go down. I think that's the only thing right there, Like,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: unless what were you gonna say, I don't.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I just feel like they do everything so well.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: M h.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I can't really put my finger
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: on what I think the cons is the Celtics right
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: right into the Celtics.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing. I just think that
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: they're just not okay as far as compared to like Oka,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: see even La or Boston. I don't feel like, no
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: disrespect to Donovan Mitchell right here, like he's playing as
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: a as a top.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Think a lack sometimes a lack of a top scorer
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: will hurt them.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I think a lack of a top scorer for sure,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell can be that top scorer. But that's not
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: how they've been successful this year. They've been successful as
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: far as team basketball. Honestly, I think the biggest thing
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: is that they're so their offense has been one of
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: the best offenses by far in the league. It's just
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: whenever the game slows down, it becomes a half court
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: set in. It's just how effective is that offense gonna be?
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: And is this Cleveland Cavaliers team gonna shoot still forty
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: percent from three, forty five percent from three when every
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: team they're giving it, they're all. I don't think they'll
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: start facing these struggles till maybe well what they probably
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: to play Indiana or Detroit. Uh, maybe I will. Maybe
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: maybe the Pacers. The Pacers could give him some problems.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: But but go ahead, I say stealing is as high
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: as Evan Mobley can take them.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, So with that being said, I think
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: the ceiling is by far an NBA championship if they
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: continue this right here.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: But definitely, I think Evan Mobley is going to be
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: the X factor of it all because I still think
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: we wait for we wait for him to kind of
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: pop off offensively.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Mm hm.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: He's there defensively, but offensively, we wait for him to
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: kind of take that next step, and he just hasn't yet,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: you know, And I feel like this is more like
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: an all season type of thing you want to call
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: him out on. But when the playoffs comes around and
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell is not able to put up forty points
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: a game like he did last season, someone else is
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: gonna have to step up to the play, and I
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: think that's gonna have to be Evan Mobley.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. And it's just I guess it's
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: just weird to see because we know in the playoffs,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: for sure, the role players are not gonna be hidden
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: as many shots, and it's gonna come down to the
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: star players. So it's like everybody's been getting in their
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: nice ten to fifteen points a game, but there's gonna
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: have to be those nights like that what you're saying
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: as far as where they're gonna have to pop off
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: these star players, Evan Mobley, Donovan Mitchell. But yeah, I say,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Ceiling is definitely winning the NBA Championship, but their floor
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: is the conference championship. I cannot I there's no possible
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: way I could see them losing in the first or
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: second round.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: I don't Conference championship is floor.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Conference Championship has to be the floor for sure. But
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: all right, Boston Celtics right here, So I feel like,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: or what do you got to say about this? What
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: are your pros and cons for the Boston Celtics right here?
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: I mean pros is experienced, Like let's just be honest, Like,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, if win the Lord rip alhar for Drew
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: is Drew Holliday already back or is he gonna be
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: back for the playoffs.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be back for the playoffs.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be back for playoffs. Drew Hollid, Jayson Tatum,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, Joe Moszula, everybody there. Patron Pritchard, who's probably
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: gonna win six Men of the Year, is going to
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: win six Men of the Year. Probably, I'd lost all
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: my money on it. It's gonna be paying Pritchard experience.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: Derek White been there before, winning championship. They know what
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: it takes to win in the playoffs. Jason Tatum. I
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: believe turns Jalen Brown especially turns into a different player
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs. They know how to step up when
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: it matters the most they've been together, they know how
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: to play with each other. Cons You live by the three,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: you die by the three. And that's just the that's
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: just the cold hard fact about it. I think they
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: they match up well with anybody defensively, I already said before,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Jason Tatum plays at the sometimes guards the four and
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: the five and allows everyone else to kind of pick
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: on somebody else. Yeah, and uh and overwhelms people with
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: their size and just pure basket. Joe Mizula is pure basketball,
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: like IQ just comes into play when it comes to
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: his defensive matchups. But you live by the three, you
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: die by the three when you see it many times
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: from many great teams. Let's say like the Houston Rockets
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: from like six years, seven, eight years. I know it's
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: a while ago, but they averaged almost the most threes
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: in NBA history per game. Yeah, and we saw how
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: hard they fell to manage nobly blocking James Harden at
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: their three point line. So it's just I think you
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: live by the three, you die by the three. And
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: that's what the Celtics are kind of dealing with.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so just to add on to what the
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Celtics do, I think they're the only team truly in
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: the NBA to get you to spread out, like where
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: you're playing one on one basketball. Okay, yeah, you're good, Yeah,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: go ahead. I think the Celtics are the only team
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: where you have you have to play one on one
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: basketball because our Horford, he could go to the three
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: point line, Christos to go to three, to the three
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: point line, Derek White, Payton Pritchard, Jaylen Brown, Jason Tatum.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: It's just a playthrough of guys and it just doesn't
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: stop from there. And I just think that Jason Tatum,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: what he does, he may not get all love, but
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: as far as what he does on the game, I
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: think I said this to you in the barbershop. He's
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: the closest guy as far as all around to being
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: similar to Lebron James, as far as being a playmaker, rebounder,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: garden one through five, maybe well even a score at times.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: He just doesn't have that crazy athleticism. But I just
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: think that he's the closest guy to Lebron. And then
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I think the best roster in the NBA. I think
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: it's better than OKC by far, because you have Derek White,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Drew Holliday coming off the bench sometimes out Horford, Jane Prichard. Yeah,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: I mean Payton Pritchard too.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they moved around also.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, even even Sam Hauser, he's been a forty
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: i think forty five percent three point shoot to this
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: entire year. So they have no weaknesses.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: And yeah, Live even the Threenett sometimes plays some solid
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: basketball too.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: He's gotten a lot better. Yeah, And I just think, yeah,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Live by the three well, I guess I kind of
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: say the same thing as Calves. So with the Celtics,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: how they live by the three, die by the three.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: They did that last year, it succeeded for him, kind
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: of with the Calves, they're gonna do that. Live by
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: the three, die by the three. So it's gonna be
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: interesting to see these two teams whenever they match up.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: So I think this is the same thing right here
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: what I said for the floor and ceiling. The floor
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: for the Celtics better be a conference championship and the
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: ceiling is an NBA championship.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: But all right, yeah, exact same.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this word gets interesting right here. The New York
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Knicks go ahead this one. This one's tough. So okay,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: let me look up Jayleen brunson status real quick, because
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know when he's supposed to be back, because
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: I know that.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: J Okay, Okay, I'm gonna say, if Jaylen Brunston is
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: playing my pros and my bonds, all right, Okay, if
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Jaylen Brunston is playing Pros, they play harder than everybody else.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: I say that they they they work hard on the glass.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: They he's supposed to be back this weekend. PJ. Tucker,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: he's going to be a full go He's now officially there. O.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Gaby's going to be a full goal So they should
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: be good by the playoffs.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, pros pros. They play harder than everybody else.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: They play gritty basketball, They rebound a lot. Josh Hart
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: one of the most grittiest players in the entire NBA.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson, dog cat, I mean, questionable sometimes, but I
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: think that's what's gonna come down to it. They play
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: harder than everybody else. Cons they play harder than everybody else,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: and that's that's the truths eight man rotation plays harder
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: than everybody else. Not a lack of depth when it
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: comes to two deeper down the roster outside of Miles
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: mcbriden a couple of those guys. The depth lacks terribly
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: from the New York Knicks and the fact that they
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: play harder than everybody else, which means they will get
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: tired eventually, and they already complain about it right now.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: In the regular season, the playoffs only becomes more physical
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: and more faster paced, and we saw them kind of
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: fell last year because of it, and this year I
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: think it's probably gonna be the same exact reasons why
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: they do not succeed, and their cons is that they
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: play harder and not a deep rotation.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna add on a little bit more to that,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: like what you're saying they play.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Harder shooting too.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so other than Kat, other than Kat, Mchel's kind
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: of been shaky og Ananobi, it's really just been shaky
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: sometimes from three. It's really just been Og and Cat
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: that have been knocked down three point shooters. But like
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: you're saying, they play harder than everybody else. In the
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: regular season, that's gonna win you some games. But in
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, everybody plays hard. There's gonna be every single
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: game where everybody's playing do or die. And Okay, I say, okay,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: if Jalen Brunson gets back in normal form, it's a
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: normal Jalen Brunson. We see, I'm going off for this hypothetically,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: this he's the problem. Yeah, well, I'm saying it may
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: be a good thing. He won't be as worn down
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: as he was versus the Pacers. I'll say that I
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: don't know if they did this purposely. I know it
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: was a nasty ankle injury, but he's been out for
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: three or almost almost a month, damn near. So this
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: is a good break for him right here. So and
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: then it gives him some time about a week or
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: so to ramp up for the playoffs and get ready.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: So I will say that, But as far as the
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: ceiling for this team, I think the ceiling for this
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: team is second round. I can't I can't see them
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: beating the Celtics or the Calves. Even yesterday when they
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: played the Cavaliers. I know they didn't have Brunson, but
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: they were up by fifteen. Then the Calves just took over.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I just think the Calves and Celtics just have their number.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Their ceiling is a second round and their floor as
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: of right now, they're projected to play the Milwaukee Bucks.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Right now, I know that the Bucks they don't have
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Damian Lillard. He's gonna be out the rest of the year.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: But Yannis, he could go eight shit for one one series,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: one or two series and end up upsetting a few
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: teams right here, I really do think so. So, yeah,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: that's that's the floor right there. Losing in the first round,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: all right? Or what do you think that is? Do
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: you think that's fair?
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Right there, ceiling, second round floor, first round for me
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: for the New York Knicks.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: All right, I feel like this one is a little
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: bit more interesting right here. The Indiana Pacers right here.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: So what do you think about them?
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, pro one of the most high powered offenses
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: in the entire NBA from top to bottom. I mean,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: they're able to flow no matter what I mean. I mean,
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: I mean when they got their starters, Tyreek's Pascal Miles
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Turner and Aaron Nice or Andrew Ninbard great defender, but
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: you got Aaron nee Smith off the bench, Obie Topping
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: off the bench, off the bench, Benedict Mathering off the bench,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: all guys that can score the basketball, all guys that
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: have Obi Topping's kind of turned into a really turned
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: into a really great basketball player off the bach for they.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: I mean he was good, he was good already, but
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: playing for the Pacers, coming off the bench, in the
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: flow of that offense, they've been able to really get
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: a lot out of them. Scoring one hundred and sixty
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: two points in one game. I get it was versus
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: the Washington Wizards, but one hundred sixty two points sixty
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: two yeah, Yeah, the Wizards are playing but Alexander Sar Look,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: it might be a problem next season.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say that I think so.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: But offense is the pro Han's lack of size. I
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: think the lack of a really true big man outside
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: of Myles Turner really hurts this team, especially on the glass,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: which is weird because they play high powered offense and
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: are able to actually score a lot of points without
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: a lot of offensive rebounding. So I will say that
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: it may, but I think coming down deeper into the
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: playoffs when it comes to playing harder matchups, harder play,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: faster play, faster paced basketball, which may work out in
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: their favor faster paced basketball, but more physical basketball may
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: hurt them in the playoffs. Outside of Myles Turner, because
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: I know they got Thomas Bryant, I know they got
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: a couple other players, they got shooters. But rebounding maybe
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: the big problem for the Indiana Pacers when it comes
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: to the playoff time.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure, I could definitely see that being
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: the problem. And Okay, I'll say this, out of all
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: of the teams to potentially upset the Cavaliers or the Celtics,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: this is number one by far from me. The Indiana
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Pacers just due to the year that they had last
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: year and continue on this year, and like you're saying,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: this offense is just top tier levels of playmaking. Tyree's Halliburn,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: he's I think he's somewhat becoming underrated. Like I think
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: he's a top fifteen player, but I think he's getting
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: that top ten territory right there. He had twenty points
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: and I think like eighteen tournal or eighteen assists, no turnovers.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: It's something crazy that he's doing right here. And I
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: just think, like you're saying, defense, they're gonna give up
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: some points. But I think if Tyree's Halliburn, can he
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: be the score, He's gonna need to be that main
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: scorer for the Pacers, even though all these other guys
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: step up matter if or I forgot that stat that
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: will I.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: Think Pascal will be the main scorer in Tyre's Taliburn
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: will be distributing.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think like Tyreee, he needs to get that.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Twenty point clipt per game.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs that twenty point clip and then everybody
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: else will kind of pitching. So yeah, no, I'll definitely
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: say that, but I'm trying to remember the stat It
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: was if Tyres shoots more than four threes, they're on
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: like a sixty win pace. So he just needs to
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: be aggressive and it unlocks his real ability of him
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: being able to distribute the ball and then get them
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: in the blender. But yeah, no, I say the ceiling
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: is a conference championship. In the floor, I would say
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: second round. I think that they're they're gonna be the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: second round. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I I think I
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: can't find a way for them to lose to this
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: next team right here, which let's go in and talk
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: about him, the Detroit Pistons right here, which we don't
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: know if they're gonna stay as a five seed. There's
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: only a one game or half a game difference right here.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: As of right now, Detroit Pistons are the five seeds.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: So what do you think?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Hard to say right now?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I think Cad will be back, by the way, Cad
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: will be back.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Let me think, let me think, let me think, come,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: I good, Where am I gonna go with this? All right?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: I think pros Let's just say only in the aspect
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: that they're playing the Indiana Pacers, because I don't have
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of expectations. I think no one expects the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Pacers to do anything. I think that's that's pros. They
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: don't got expectations on their sides, you know so, But
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: I will say pros. They're a good defensive basketball team. Yeah,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I think. I think Kate Cunningham, Malik they can really
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: match up against size wise against many teams. Especially having
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Auster Thompson coming off the bench. Kate Cunningham, Jayalen Duran,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Malik Beasley is able to see. They have a solid roster,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: let's just say, solid roster guys that play all together.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: No real egos on this basketball team. Cons they're a
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: super young roster. This team is very an experienced they
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: have little to know on this basketball team has played
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: true playoff basketball in the NBA before. It's gonna be
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: a whole new opening of like what they possibly could be.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: But they they could surprise us. I don't expect it.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: I think playing a team like the Indiana Pacers in
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: your first round matchup in the playoffs is gonna be.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: So.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: But I think if Kid Cuttingham goes scorched Earth, then
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know the outside of that, it's gonna take
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: a lot for the Detroit Pissons. I think in the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: playoffs to kind of match up with a team like
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: the Indiana Pacers.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I I agree with you one hundred percent.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: And I just think that well, I'm just trying to think.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: I think best case scenario for the Troy Pisons has
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: played the New York Knicks.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: I think so too. I think if they play the Knicks,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: they could They're a great defensive team, so I think
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: they could make it real ugly for the Knicks, and
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Kid Cunningham could find a way to torch torch apart,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Jalen Brunston and Cat would be Kid Malik Beasley, Tim Hardaway,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Junior Tobias Harris, Jaden Ivy, Dennis Schroeder, Asar Thompson, Isaiah Stewart.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: They got a depth and they played gritty basketball.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think do you think Ron Holland gets minutes?
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: I know he's been playing good as of late, but
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: he's he's a rookie. I don't think he gets minutes.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: I don't. I think it just depends on matchup.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, this is crazy right here. So I guess
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: the Detroit Pistons. Oh no, the Bucks just beat the
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Sixers right now, So the Pistons just moved down to
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: the sixth seed. But let's go to let's go and
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: finish this. So I think the Pistons they can win
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: one round in the playoffs. I say the one round, yeah, ceiling,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: one round floor losing in the first round. All right, well,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: I guess let's talk about the now five seeded Milwaukee
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Bucks right here. So obviously without Damian Lillard for the
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: entire season right here, or he's gonna be pretty much
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: be out. So what are you thinking, bro?
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: They got Yannis Kahn, who's gonna score outside of Yannis?
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: That's just my answer, that's that. I think that's what
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: I'm limiting it to. I may selling a casual by
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: saying that, but yeah, pros, they got cons who's gonna
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: score outside of Jannis? I think that's just what I'm
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: gonna leave it at.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, for real, it's just now with that
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Damian little there's none of that upside that they have.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: So it's just all gonna be depending on Giannis and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: there's nobody to really guard on the perimeter for them.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Damian Littard, he wasn't gonna help them out, help them
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: out either, So you're telling me I can't even think
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: of I can't even think a J.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: A J.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Griffin. I think, and then it's a rookie that they have.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: They're gonna definitely struggle on the perimeter. And I just think,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Yannis he could I could say they could go to
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: the second round right now, maybe maybe go to the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: second round. That's what I'm thinking. That's that's their selling.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: But their floor losing the first round to the Pacers
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: as of now. So all right, these playing teams, we're
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: gonna just kind of go through them quick or I'll
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: just ask you. I'll just ask you ceiling and floor.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna asking Orlando, Magic, ceiling and floor.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I don't know. I'm gonna go pros and cons.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: All right, pros and cons, Magic, pros, defense, Consolo and
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: Fronds have not gone back to where they were.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well I'll say, whould they play the Celtics?
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Oh no, if they they're gonna play the Celtics or
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: the Caves. Now, I say, ceiling ceiling, make it to
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: the first round. Their their floor is getting out or
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: being eliminated from the play in. I believe we don't have.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: To go to in Deptha. We don't know if they're
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: making the playoffs yet.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hawks right here, Hawks pros, they're fun.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: To watch, fun to watch, athletic cons injuries, need them
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: to lose.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: Cons.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: I will say what cons. I just think lack of size.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: You know they have depth, but lack of size.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'll definitely say that. But they have been
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: fun also random right here, Zachary Resaw say, these past
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: few games, he's been playing some damn good basketball.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: He has a little too little too late though.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think at first when he got that first pick,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: I think it was like, Okay, it's a little bit crazy.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Alexander Starr was a better player, but Resaw say is nineteen,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: and he's only getting better as the years going on.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, I mean, which I'm not mad at.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: Alexander Starr is definitely panning out right now, like I
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: think you could. I think, okay, outside to read Shepherd,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: I think Stefan Cassel, Zachary we should say, and alexandri
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Starr are both all playing like they should be the
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: number one overall pick. Yeah, yeah, like they should have
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: been the number I could.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Definitely see that, so I would say again, same thing
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: for the magic floor floor making it out. Uh Seiling Hawks.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Have a cool future, though, I will say I think
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: they have a good foundation.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: What they flipped for de Jonty Murray was crazy. What
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: they got for Dyson or they got Dyson Daniels back
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: in a bunch of picks. That is a great haul
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: for de john Say Murray.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Dyson Daniels about to take a turn in his career.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: No, no, for real, I think I don't think he
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: will win dpo y but he's Deny allends, No for real,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: his I think I saw something. His stocks is finally
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: gonna pass Wimby's, which is crazy. It took till the
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: end of the season to fasten them in stocks.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Dude, Winby's gonna finish the finish with thirty more blocks
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: than the next person.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Bro, what is he on pace to break break a
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Keems record? And like what a ten years something like that?
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, today in the barbershop, someone was arguing, we were arguing,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: you know, eras if players were to play in this,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: and then someone brought up Wimby would go into the
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: night these and dominated like they had no one. And
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: I say, people run away from from Wimby now And
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just like I said more obviously, and they were like, well,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: and then my boy Ray was like, well, Michael Jordan
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: would going dunk on on, dunk on Wimby. He don't
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: on the kimba. I'm like, yeah, but the kimba is
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: not nowhere near as athletic as Victor Wimbin Yama. Bro.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: No, oh shooting bro. And even when it turned on
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: the Lakers and Warriors game, Lebron's down.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. I'm happy right here, damn bro, No.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Not not my Let me see what happened. Did he
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: hit knees?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Was that what it was? Did he hit knees because
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: he shaved his head?
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Just kidding, well, he he ran straight into him, but like, yeah, okay,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: well you got up, okay, all right, well okay.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: No, but I can definitely see where were we at
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: right now? No, Wimby, I was like, dude, he's just
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: too athletic.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: No could junk on.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Other than even other than even when other than one guy,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: even when John dunked on him, the whistle got blown
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: and then he just ran to the basket. And then
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: Wimby was like, yeah, putting my hands up so he
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: actually could. And then and then Wimby was on transition
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: in the switch when Kobe White dunked on him. So
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: it was kind of like, okay, okay.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: You're talking about the player of the month right now,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Kobe White. You're talking about the player of the month
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Kobe White. Hey, has Victor Winmbin Yama won player of
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: the month this year?
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: He did?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Actually he did?
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Has he wanted? Has he won it past January?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: Whatever? Bro? Okay, I think he won in November.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: I want to say, well, well, hey, they're they're tired
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: right now, so I think they're on the same level,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: him and Kobe White.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: All right, let's we're going We're talking about Kbe White
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: in a minute.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah though, all right, Miami heat right here. So they
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: were on a bad losing stretch, but they've been winning
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: the past six to seven games or and then yeah,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: the past six six to seven games. They just lost
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: this last one. But yeah, they went six and oh
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: then lost this last one. What do you think about them?
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: All right? Pros Eric Spolser, I mean most experience. Second,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: I mean that's the truth. I mean second second most
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: successful coach in the outside. No, okay, third, they's Steve Kerr.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: But third most successful coach in the NBA outside of
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: Pop and Steve Kerr, arguably Joe Mizzola at this point
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: in his career most experienced coach and knows how to
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: get done in the playoffs. Cons I think there's the roster.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of question marks there. I think it's
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: not a fluent roster. I think Tyler Harrow and Bam.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: I think Tyler Harrow isn't the shouldn't be your number
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: one score if I'm being completely honest, I think Bam
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: definitely is a number two or a number three on
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: a really solid, great contending basketball team. Definitely a number two.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I Khalil Ware a couple of these other
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: guys I just don't trust outside of Bam.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Khalil where he has been playing some good basketball,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: but I think the next two three years he could
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: actually play some playoff manutes.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: This draft class was pretty solid.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, after them saying there's got a lot of hate,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah they got a lot of what did they say,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: this is one of the most disappointing draft classes? And
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: then yeah, no, it's pan ofaw.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Been the best of the last like four years of
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: the last like four.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: No, no for real at this point, But yeah, I know,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: I say, sailing first round floor, losing to the Bulls.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: What they're gonna what they are gonna do, which, let's
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: go and talk about the Chicago Bulls right here, intend
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: seed maybe could get to the nine seeds right here.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: So all right, all right, Josh, go ahead, all right?
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Well wait, wait wait was that from Wait, Sweet Sweet Life?
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's from Victoria. No, it's from Victorious. Oh I
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: thought that was from No you know, and like show.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I swear there was one part. I swear
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: that was one part where it's like the mom singing
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: like the whole Chicago thing. I don't know, Okay, maybe
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: it might be.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we're going on topic, all right. Number
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: ten Chicago Bulls Pros pros, Kobe White Pros. Honestly, offensively,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: they shoot, if they're on shooting threes, if they're on offensively,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: they're one of the best offensive teams in the NBA.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: Cons very unpredictable.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, okay from watching the Bulls. I'll
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: just give a little bit deep deep dive. So we've
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: been better defensive lately lately. When we when we've had
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: madus actually started at the four and I just think,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: like you're saying, the three point variants. If we're knocking
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: down shots and then it's it's dangerous. Nobody could really
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: compete with the Bulls other than a few teams if
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: they're hitting their threes. But I think I think they're selling.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: I think they're silly, Josh.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: I know what you think they're stilling is. I know
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: what you think their stilling is.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Bro as an unbiased fan right here, just looking at
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: the Bulls play since February is the second.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Round, Yeah, Kobe White, they can do anything.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: It's the second round. The only the only reason why
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: I'm saying that is because say we get the eight seed.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: The all I'm saying is if the Bulls make it,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: I hope they win.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: I hope I hope they do too, because I bet
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: you do.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: I bet you do.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Bro. If we beat the Calves, you're not gonna hear
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: the end of it from me. I'm gonna be going
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: on a victor. I don't care what else we do
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: after that. We beat the one seed, the team that
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: was on seventy or on a seventy pace win before then,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: then yeah no, no, you won't hear the end of it.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: That would be my super Bowl as far as my
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: sports teams. But no stilling second round. I really do
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: believe that then the floor is making out of the
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: plane or or not making the plan. All right, let's
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: go to the Western Conference right here. This will be
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: the last part before we wrap it up. Let's go
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: in reverse order, so let's do the play in first,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: and then we'll go to the one through six seed
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Okay pro's experience, I will say, I think I think
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: they got a lot of veteran presence on that basketball team.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: I think DeMar DeRozan, Zach Lavine, Jones, Valentunis, they have
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: some good, solid pieces there. They've actually been playing some
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: good basketball, but I think as of the last three games,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: they lost three in a row. But when they first
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: started getting going as a as a squad, they were
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: really kind of hitting on all cylinders. To start off,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: CON's lack of three point shooting, Hegan Murray hasn't hasn't
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: really gone back to being what he was. They're very
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like they're stuck in that purgatory land
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: where like we don't really know where they're going. It's
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: just they're a solid basketball team with really no there's
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: really no ceiling. If I'm being honest, I think the
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: ceiling maybe is first round and then that's it for
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: the Sacramento Kings.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. It's just
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: there's always teams in the NBA where they're not gonna
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: be They're not meant to be good or great basketball teams,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: so they're not meant to be bad. They're just gonna
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: be stuck in between. I just think that's where the
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: Kings are right now. So I agree with you floor
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: missing the missing the playoffs and then making it to
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: the first round. Now this one, I think these next
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: three teams could get a little bit more interesting. The
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks right here, so they've been playing better basketball
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: since Anthony Davis got back. They went from out of
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: the play into now being pretty comfortable in the play in.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: They're they're gonna be in the plan for sure, but
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: it just depends if they're gonna be the nine or
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: ten seeds. So what do you think about them?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: I think pros Anthony Davis a good defensive end of
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: the basketball court for the Dallas Mavericks. In general, CON's
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: lack of a top scorer outside of Anthony Davis. I
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: think if they had Kyrie Irving, I would look at
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: this team a lot differently. I would definitely, honestly still
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: link could be conference championship Kyrie Irving. But with that,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: because Klay Thompson is there, they would have solid pieces
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: all the way around kNs. But as of right now,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: I think floor maybe the second round cons I mean
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: stealing floor, stealing his second round. Floor is the play
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: in tournament. I think I think it's gonna be a
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: If they had Kyrie Irving, I would be looking at
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: this a lot differently. For the Dallas Mavericks.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree one hundred percent. I just think
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: that I don't think that they could beat the Oklahoma
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: City Thunder because they'd be the eighth seed. But I
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: think they could give them a good six games like it,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: it won't be like nothing, nothing to like slouch over
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: or even in five games like it'll be a tough
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: five games for them. So I'll say that Anthony Davis,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: he's been a monster. He's completely back to normal. So
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: all right, well, I say I say their their floor
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: is making the playoffs. I do think that they're gonna
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs or act. No, I think, honestly, just
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: looking at this, I think their floor and ceiling is
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: a player. I really do think so, because the Clippers
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: and Timberwolves they're just too damn good right now. But
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: all right, let's get to the Clippers right here, so
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: they have a chance. They're only half a game out,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: well pretty much from the five seed all the way
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: to the eighth seed. It's a half game difference right here.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: So what do you think about the Clippers?
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: Clippers? So Clippers right now? I think pros James Harden
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: and Kawhi Leonard are bawling right now. I think if
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: if it's a Zubac just following suit, this team is clicking.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: They're one of the better teams in all of basketball
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: as of the last couple of weeks when all when
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: everyone's came back healthy, experience is on their side. Definitely
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: a scary team you don't want to play if they
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: make it into the playoffs. Cons the same cons the
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: Clippers always have. You never know who's gonna fall, you
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: never know what injuries are gonna happen.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, no, yeah, no, for sure, I think
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: that Kawhi he's getting to the point where he's getting
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: back to having that vintage jumper that he has and
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: defensively we know what he is. Just the biggest thing
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: is availability there. And I think the Oklahoma City Thunder
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: that will go seven games if they play up against
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: the Thunder just based on how Kawhi is playing. And
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: this is ventures Kawhi and they beat the Calves the
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: other day with Kawhi Leonard going absolutely crazy and their
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: offense wouldn't be stopped. So I think this team is
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: definitely scary. And I say, I say they're ceiling again.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: I respect okay see too much. If they play Houston.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: If they play Houston, then then I'll say they could
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: potentially win a first or I'll say that sailing second round,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: depending on matchup floor is in the playoffs, I'll say
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: that next one Minnesota Timberwolves. So I know I told
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: you before Anthony Edwards went down, So let's just go
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: based off like if Anthony Edwards is healthy, if this
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: team is healthy, is healthy.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think the Timberls are hard for me.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think they strike me as the same team
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: as they were last year. I think if they had
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns, this team would I think, I don't know,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: it's weird. Corinthone Town's definitely fits to New York, but
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: there was still a good chemistry that they had with
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert and car Anthony Towns. To THU guess, Randall
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: just isn't Carl Anthony Towns. He isn't Cat Kat self
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: proclaimed and statistically best big man three point shooter in
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: the history of basketball. So I think that that you're
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: gonna take a hit right there when it comes to
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. Rudy Gobert, I mean playoff Rudy Gobert. We've
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: seen it before in this especially, but last year he
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: did step up to the plate a lot more. I
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: will say it's just cons I feel like there's a
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: lack of depth sometimes with the Minnesota Timberwolves, and that's
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: why they have lost games. I think outside of Anthony Edwards,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: there's not that true score. There's not someone else that
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: can really step up to the plate and really take
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: the take the pressure off of Anthony Edwards when it
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: comes to scoring the basketball. But the pros for this
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: basketball team Anthony Edwards. I mean, Anthony Edwards plays hard,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: He's he guards the best perimeter basketball player that each
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: team has. He can match up well with anybody, and
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: I think when the game's on the line, Anthony Edwards
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: just turned into a different player.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. And I'll say this about
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: the Minnesota tim Wolves. They have. They're one of those
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: few teams where I think maybe only Houston and yeah,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: I really only think Houston in the West could do that,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: do this where they have ultra physicality, where they're gonna
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: be able to get away with a lot more in
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, where they could just physically just dominate you,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: like what they did to the Denver Nuggets last year,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: what they did to the Phoenix Suns last year. So
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: unless you have this big physical superstar or somebody that
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: can handle contact, I think that they'll just run over
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: that team. And you need star power. Anthony Edwards. He's
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: a star power type of player. He played at the
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: top five level last year. So I think that the
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: ceiling for this team is still the conference is still
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: the Conference finals. I really do think so, because just
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: these guys that they have obviously have Rudy Gobert, that
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: you have Jaden McDaniels, ni Kill Alexander Walker, you have
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards. So that's that defensive presence right there is
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: insane in the Like I said, the physicality can just
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: keep them in ball games alone. So yeah, but I
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: think their floor, honestly, I think their floor is the
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: second round. I think as I think they're going to
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: be the seventh seed, and I think they'll beat Houston. Well,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to give away what Houston has, but
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be Houston. But all right, so
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: let's go ahead and go with the top. Right here,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City Thunder.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: Right here, Oklahoma City Thunder pros that that every froze
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: with Oklahoma Street Thunder. I mean, everybody. I don't know
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: everything about the Oklahoma City defense. Best in the NBA shake,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: you'll just Alexander, Isaiah Hartenstein and Chet Holmgren are both healthy. Yeah,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Jay Dove is there, you know, So Alex Crusoe is
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: gonna be is gonna be there. CON's maybe outside of
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: Shay who's gonna take over. I think when the game matters,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be there's gonna be a point where someone
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: else is gonna have to take over. And we've seen
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: it happen. We've seen Jay Dubb do it. We've seen
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: Chet Holmgren definitely do it. I think one of those
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: two players is gonna have to do it. Yeah, And
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: I think and that's gaming and game out. There's gonna
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: have to be twenty one solid points from J Dub
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: night in and night out. Chet Holmgren's gonna have to
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: score twenty points per game, night in and night out
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: for them to really what they're selling is the NBA Championship.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: What their floor is for me is the conference championships.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: I don't expect to see the Thunder anywhere else, but
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: to win that championship, Chet and J Dub are gonna
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: have to step up to the plate big time.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna surprise your little bit. But like
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: I am super high on the Oklahoma City Thunder and
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: I think they're somewhat going underrated. But as I say this,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: I'm being a hypocrite right here. I think that they're
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: still in obviously an NBA championship, but I think their
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: floor is a second round exit. I really do think so,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: because if they happen to play a Lakers, if they
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: happen to play the Warriors.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing about the West. I think that's
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: why I disconnect with the Timberwolves. Was was that like
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: everyone above them is also very very good this year.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I just think that the West,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: it somehow gets better and better as as the years
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: go on. Like you're gonna have so you're gonna have
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: the Portland Trailblazers who are playing great right now, the
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: Spurs who have winby Darren Fox coming back, and then
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: plus these other ten teams in the playoffs. There's gonna
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: be two teams missing.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: The Rookie of the Year and the Rookie of the Year.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: It's not official yet. I'm not saying that it's not
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: a Hey, maybe Minus will have like a sixty point.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: He just drops thirty points per game for the last
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: five games, and like, like, all right, you win, bro.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: Shoot if he does that, that's another victory lab for me. Now.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: But all right, this one it gets interesting right here.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: The Houston Rockets right now is a two seed. There
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: are three games ahead of everybody else, So it looks
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: like they're gonna be locked in at the two seed
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: unless something crazy collapse happens. So what do you think
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: about them?
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: Pros defense? I think pros the defense is solid all
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: the way around. You know, everyone plays their role, they
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: get the job done. He may Udoka knows how to
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: set up that spurs defense to kind of shut down teams.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: Cons cons I think Jalen Green, Alfred Sengoon and consistencies.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: I think sometimes they they have these big games, they
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: have these stretches where these were you look at them
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: and they're like, dang, these guys are about to take
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: the next step into that next level a basketball player
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: that there's is in the top ten, not top ten,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: but top twenty basketball player, top fifteen basketball player. They
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: definitely have the floor, the talent to be there, the
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: ceiling to be Both of them have that ceiling to
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: be in that potential, but night in and night out,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: sometimes it lacks and I'm they this year so far
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: it hasn't been a problem because the roster is very
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: deep Fred van Fleet, they have a couple other players.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: Am and Thompson has step up to the plate, which
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: also may be another person that has to step up
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: because there was a stretch this year where he was
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: kind of going insane on offense. We know what he
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: is on defense, But I think Jalen Green and Alfred
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: Sengoun are gonna have to be are gonna have to
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: step up to the plate when it comes to playing
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: the Lakers, the Nuggets, the thunder the Warriors, the Timberwolves,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: and even the Clippers because the Clippers are going to
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: be in the playoffs.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and okay, I'm gonna just kind of go off
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: what I saw against the Lakers the other day. It
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: was pretty interesting. So obviously the defense was there, and
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: like you're saying, they need a real they need a
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: real score. And I just think that Jalen Green Albert Sengoon,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: it's like too much of a year turn my turn,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: if that makes sense.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: And you know what's weird. We talked about it last year. Yeah,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: when one's not playing, the other one is like takes off, yeah,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: going crazy, and then when the other one's playing, they
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: go crazy. So it's like when they're together, they take
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: back seats to each other, which is yeah, and it
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: doesn't work out.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: And I think that they're leaning towards more towards seng
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: Gooon because when it was close on the fourth quarter,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: they yeah, they benched, they benched Jalen Green, And I
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: just think that also, this is kind of off topic
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: right here. I think I'm in Thompson. That'll be one
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: of the few young guys where if you say, all right,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: you want I'm and Thompson or Cooper Flag, I would
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: take I'm and Thompson over Cooper Flag right now. I
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: would take him over Cooper Flag right now. I think
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: I'm in Thompson that potential. That's like Dwayne Wade potential
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: right there, if if not more.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: But Cooper Flag is playing a year up right now,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, let me clarify this. I'm not saying Cooper Flag
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: is bad by no means.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: But no, no, I get that. I'm Thompson is a
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: good basketball player, but Cooper Flag is I don't know,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: I mean athleticism. I'm and Thompson has seed the high ceiling,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: but Cooper Flag is polished game. And what it could
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: become more of, I don't know.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: I just think I'll say this, well, it's kind of
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: the same concerns Cooper Flag has. I mean, I'm and
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Thompson has everything down except offense. And he still averages
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen points a game. So what happens whenever he
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: gets the only thing that he doesn't have is well,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: according to like all the scouts and everything is he
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't have that that number one score type of upside
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: on a championship roster.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like the same arguments were made
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: for Jason Tatum. I mean, I'm I'm I'm a hypocrite,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: So you know, I think Jason Tatum definitely gets the
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: job done.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Well. Well, I'm just I'm just saying I'm in Thompson.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: He's he's that damn good and I just think that
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: they both have the same concerns. So I just think
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: I'm in Thompson as of right now. There's obviously anything
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: could happen with the rookie. I would just take more
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: of that guarantee, and he has that crazy upside, not
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: as much as Cooper Flag. Okay, I'll give you that.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: I'll give you that, but I'm not I'm not I'm
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: not saying that.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: I'm and Thompson is right here as far as potential there, I.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: Change the draft that we made for this for this
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: podcast to Cooper Flag staring at all and Thompsons like, yeah, yeah,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: what if we started? What did we started? The next rivalry?
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: Like the next rivalry for real first and Jet and
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: then Dylan Brooks is in the background just like for real.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: That would be perfect. I'm telling you, I'm really high
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: on im and Thompson. I think he's gonna be a
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: top ten player.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: No, okay, I see top fifteen right now, as right
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: now top fifteen, I'll say top fifteen. He'll be a
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: top fifteen player.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, obviously like bearing anything crazy. Oh well, all right,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: I kind of got off topic. Ceiling for the Rockets
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: is second round. Floor is losing in the first round.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: That's why I see it. All right, Okay, I know this,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: this is gonna sound weird, but let's go in and
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: talk about the Grizzlies floor and ceiling, because this is
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: the one team where it's like, eh, we kind of
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: already know.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: And I feel like them earlier.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: The Grizzlies. Yeah, well, there's a six seat. They're in
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: the plan or they're outside. What standings do I have
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: right now? I don't know them At eight, they're on eight.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: At mine, they're eight. Oh they they probably didn't update
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: for you. They they're like updating as a minute for
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: me right now. Oh, that that's probably what it is.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: They moved up to six for me just now when
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: I refreshed it.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, yeah, yeah, So before we get through
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: three through five, because those teams are honestly the most
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: interesting teams to talk about. Right now, I want to
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: talk about the Grizzlies because I want to end this
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: episode off on a bank right here. So Memphis Grizzlies.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: So let's go and get this out of the way.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: What do you think about them?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: Memphis Grizzlies. For my pros pros solid defense, athleticism, they're
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: able to kind of they're kind of able to shut
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: down teams that will. They can throw bodies at you,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: you know, especially on the front court. Zach Edy, Jaron
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: Jackson Junior, what's that other homies name that I always yeah, Aldama.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: He's pretty good. So they have depth. I will say
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: that Grizzlies do have some depth on their basketball team.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: It's just cons like we talked about earlier when we
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: were talking about Like I said earlier when we were
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: talking about Taylor Jenkins offense, I think the offense lacks
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: sometimes because there's not that there's not solid three point shooting.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they're they're trying to play too much much in
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: the flow of the offense rather than letting one guy
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: take over. John Ran just hasn't elevated his game to
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: another level yet, and it's just the I think that's
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: the cons that's gonna be the Grizzlies downfall.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that the Grizzlies. This is one
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: team where everybody they're kind of hoping they face the
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: Grizzlies in the first round because they're kind of spiraling,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: spiraling down. I think for sure floor they're gonna make
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, even if they happen to go into a
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: playing game. I think they'll make the playoffs. But or honestly,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: there's a Timberwolves Clipper. No, I think that they could
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: beat the MAVs or the Kings. I think that they
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: could beat the Mats.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: With the Kings, the player might get interesting towards the
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: end of the season. There's the Warriors, Grizzlies, Timberwolves, Clippers
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: all right there next to each other.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I still think that they'll make the playoffs. Whether
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: it's them finishing from five to the eight seed, I
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: think that they'll make it. But I think that's their
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: floor and they're ceiling right there. I don't see much.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: But all right, time to talk about these real teams
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: right here. The Los Angeles Lakers, right team, Yeah, the
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: real teams right here?
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Josh, all right, so we're gonna start with
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: the Lakers pros, Luca and Lebron James. I think that's
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: that's the pros right there. I don't know if there's
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: any more that needs to be done. And we saw
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: what they were able to do at the height of
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: what they were able to do when they first got
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: together before Lebron got injured, and then the chemistry kind
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: of hasn't gotten back to full full strength, but they
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: have won two in a row. And people were worrying
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: about because the Lakers did go on like a seven
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: game skate of pretty bad basketball. But now they're kind
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: of getting back on track. Hopefully they can close it
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: out tonight versus the Golden State Warriors, and they can
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: kind of put the put the put to bet, put
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: to bet a lot of the doubts they Luca Doncies
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: has really unlocked Jackson Hayes. I think that's I never
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: thought I would say those words, Jackson Hayes getting unlocked.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: But Jackson Hayes has turned into a two Like I'm
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: not gonna say DeAndre Jordan level lob threat, but right
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: underneath that right now when Luca do he's rebounding the
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: basketball very well. He's He's developed a real interior presence
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: for the Los Angeles Lakers, especially in athletic interior presence,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: which I think the Lakers do need in a pick
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: and roll style offense with a Luca and with a
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: Lebron James and but I think the cons right now,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: it's gonna have to be depth. I think the depth
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: of players I think outside of Austin Reeves, Luca and
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: Lebron sometimes R Hachim isn't existent, Dorian Finnie Smith sometimes
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: is non existent. Darling Connect has some spurts this season,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: but he's never really had a real consistent output of
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: basketball where he's this solid twelve point per game score.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: He's kind of taken some dips for a rookie. Twelve
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: points isn't a lot, but for a rookie that's pretty
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: solid coming off the bench. So I just think they
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: need they need this depth, this this bench to really
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: step up for this Los Angeles Lakers.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm gonna say this right here. The Lakers
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: they're the most dangerous team to the Oklahoma City Thunder
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: because they could get they could generate open shot after
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: open shot after open shot. I think their offense is
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: definitely not going to be the problem. I just think, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: yeah no. I just think that Luca and Lebron can
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: create so much opportunity for these players. It's just a
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: matter of them knocking down shots and playing just enough
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: defense for them, if that makes sense. Kind of like
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: not exactly like the Nuggets formula, but you know how
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: the Nuggets stay up. They scored a bunch of yeah, yeah, exactly,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. It's like on on steroids
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: at this point. But I just think they need to
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: like defend like the Nuggets, not like where they're this
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: like great lockdown defensive team, but like they could just
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: contain just enough, if that makes sense. I think that
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: they're ceiling is a championship. I really think that they
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: could win a championship. But I think their floor.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: I think they're if they are healthy, I think they
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: are winning the championship.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: That's back to back years. Josh, you're saying that that's
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: back to back years.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, And it's back to back years. But this
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: year they got Luka Doncic.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: That that's true. Luca is a different animal. I think
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: the only real threat to the Lakers outside of the
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: Thunder is the Golden State Warriors. I really do think so.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: Other than that, I think, yeah, just the style of
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: basketball is the Warriors can put anybody in a blender.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: So I just think that that if the Laker Curry
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: can put anyone in a blender.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what I've been. That's what I've been
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: right there. I'll try to I'll try to make it
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: seem more like a team. I'll try to make it
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: seem more like a team. But I think their floor
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: is the second round. They they're gonna at least win
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: one playoff series here, sorry, Denver Nuggets. Right here, bros.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: They got the best player in the entire world. Cons No,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: everyone else relies on the best player in the entire
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: world on the Denver Nuggets, and I think Jamal Murray playoff.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: Jamal Murray is a different now animal. We know what
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: he can do in the playoffs. I don't expect nothing
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: less from Jamal Murray to step up and be that
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: be a superstar. I think I don't know why where
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: this is where he take a step back in the
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: regular season, but in the playoffs, there's no I give
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not taking a lot of people over Jamal Murray
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs from what we've seen in the past.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: But but outside of those top two pieces, it's Michael
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: Porter Junior. I wish he was more consistent scoring in
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: the basketball because he would be such a threat for
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets. I just think because he has all
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: the talent, it's just I just there's something that holds
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: him back. And I don't know if it's just a
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: lack of like a real fundamental game of basketball, because
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: he can shoot the ball, he can get but there's
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: something that's where the consistency lacks offensively for him, and
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: I think having him really step up would really put
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: this team. I guess these are the cons inconsistencies from
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon and Mike and Michael Porter Junior.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. And I think CACP end up. Well,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: I know CACP. He's not playing good in Orlando, but
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: it was a very big loss.
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  Speaker 2: No, but he does everything.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, just that defensive presence right there, and
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: their defense has definitely dipped off, and I.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: Just think is not KCP.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: He's definitely not Russell Westbrook, He's not KCP Aaron Gordon.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: He's become a knockdown shooter. But it's as far as
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: those guys, the Denver Nuggets any when anybody plays them,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: they're gonna make Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter, Junior, Christian bond Ron,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook beat you. They're not gonna let Jamal Murray
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: or Yokic do that. So can those guys knocked down?
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: If Russell Westbrook is able to kind of take over
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: a basketball game, which could.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: Work, But Josh, we're asking a lot of what if. Josh,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: we've seen what thirteen fourteen years worth of a sample size.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: When has the last time or when's the last time
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: Russell west Brook contributed to playoff basketball. He's one of
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: my favorite players of all time. Russell Westbrook off basketball.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: He does get hurt. He does. He does hurt himself
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: a lot. I'm not saying physically, Blake, but he does
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: elevate basketball teams.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: I just think that he he elevates them in the
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: regular season. That's That's That's what I'll say. But it's
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: just when it gets to half court offense, it slows
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: him down in him not being a consistent shooter.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: Shooting hurts Russell Westbrook's career.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: If he was, if he was just even a decent shooter,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: he'd still be a I wouldn't say superstar.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: I think if he was like Jalen Brunson level shooter,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook would still be an MVP considerations.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: I would definitely agree with that. I would definitely agree
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: with that. All right, this last team right here, that's
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: playing the Lakers tonight, and I think this one's very
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: interesting right here, the Golden State Warriors. It's I think the.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: Pro I think the pros right now, the pros right
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: now is that veteran presence. I think the veteran deep
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: playoff basketball. Steve Kerr, Jimmy Butler, Stephen Curry, Draymond Green,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: all these guys know what it takes to an NBA Championships,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: to get to NBA Championships. Defensively, Draymond Green and Jimmy
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: Butler are gonna have this team ready. I have zero
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: doubts about that. Stephen Curry, I mean, I don't need
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: to explain why Stephen Curry is a pro. But CON's
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: for me. Cons Rebounding. I think rebounding is gonna hurt
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: this basketball team bad. I think Draymond Green can only
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: do so much on the glass. It's just I don't
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: see it. They have a lot of younger guys that
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: surround these four pieces. I know there's coaching happening all
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: over the place with Steve curR and those four that
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: those three that I just named, but it I think
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: those younger pieces, which Brandon Potzimski whatever, he has really
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: stepped in to play as of late, actual shooting in
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: the threes. He had eight, nine or ten threes the
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: other night versus the San Antonio's Furs, So he's really
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: stepping up. And I think a lot of these guys
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: are stepping up, Moses Moody, Jonathan Kaminga. It's just they
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: have to be really consistent for this Warriors team to
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: be successful. And I think not necessarily being these scorers,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: but playing your roles. I think they all have to
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: really commit to their roles. And this Golden State Warriors
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: team is going to be very scary.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I think this Warriors team, they're definitely gonna
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: be scary, and I think nobody's gonna want to play them.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: I just say, like you're saying, as far as the
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: rebounding size is definitely gonna kill them. And I know
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: that they've always had this infamous small ball lineup, but
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: even when they had their small ball lineup, it was Igudala,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: Steh or Clay, I mean, Draymond and then KD. So
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: like these guys were like what six six' nine something like.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: That outside of gritty players bro like they. Have, yeah
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: they Had Andrew, boget they had.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: They had too gritty of a. Player, yeah To Sean.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: Livingston they had those guys right, there.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: AND i just like they had they had veteran.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: Presences barbosa Dang, yeah, no, YEAH i think that's the biggest.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: Thing they don't have that veteran. Presence AND i just
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: think That i'm not worried about the the big three
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: Of Jimmy, Butler Draymond, green And Steph. Curry I'm i'm
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: not worried about them. THERE i know that they're gonna.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: Produce it's just everybody else can they do? THAT i
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: say they're. SELLING i do not think that it's a
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: championship because even if they make it to The Oklahoma
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: City thunder or The celtics or The, CAVES i just
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: think that's when just it becomes too much at that.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: Point So i'm gonna say they're, Yeah conference, finals but
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: their floor is is losing in the first.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: ROUND i THINK i think they can make it to the. Second,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: no if you.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: Don't think if they Played, denver if they Played denis,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: first losing first rounds to the, Floor, yeah everyone's losing
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: first round is the floor outside Of, okay see outside Of. Okay.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: See THEN i think.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: Let's, say let's say The clippers end up with the eighth.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: SEED i don't think that's a team THAT okayc would
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: want to see in the first.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: Round they DEFINITELY i would still TAKE i. DON'T i
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: would still take The. Thunder but it's a tough.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: SEVEN i will say even with, That James harden And
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: Kawhi leonard both healthy versus this Young Oklahoma city, Team,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: bro they're gonna tear them. Apart i'm.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: NOT i.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: Don't i'm not gonna say that they. Win, yeah but
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: they're gonna.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: Tough. Yeah, Yeah, NO i agree with, you, Man it's
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: just This. West you don't know what to expect from.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: This you could see all this, stuff but you never
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: know what that was gonna. Happen But Josh any last
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: words before we get. HERE i feel like we did
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: in depth as far as any the last.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: WORDS i, MEAN i think we might see the greatest
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: freshman season of all time come to completion With Cooper.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: Flagg Stefan castle is gonna secure The rookie of The
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: year two years in a row for The San Antonio.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: Spurs the futures looking. Bright i'm pretty excited for what
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: it has in. Store, yeah SO i, think, uh this
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: basketball season has been pretty, fun but it's about to
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: get really serious when the playoffs come. Around because BUT
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: i think both conferences are as stacked as they've been
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: in a, While SO i think it's gonna be a
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: pretty fun to.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: Watch, yeah, Yeah, no for, SURE i think this is
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be the best part of basketball. College we're gonna
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: see that in AND i just think that just with
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: us doing awards next, week that's gonna be. INTERESTING i
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: don't think.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: That don't watch the watch, Basketball, dude they're gonna Be
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: they're gonna miss out if they don't watch this playoffs this.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: Year for.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: Sure all all the people that always hate on basketball
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: as far as saying they're this is not the best
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: version of, basketball it's the greatest version of basketball that
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: we've seen by, far and also one more thing to
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: just point. Out so our first episode it was about
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: two hours and fifteen. Minutes this one was almost two.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: Hours so we did about four hours worth of content.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: Today so, yeah you're, welcome. Guys four hours worth of
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: content on a on A Thursday.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: Thursday on A thursday, Afternoon thursday. Afternoon we started at
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: six o'clock in the. Morning it's ten o'clock at night right,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: now so we definitely put in some hours right. Here
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: but but, yeah, no, well next week we're gonna be doing,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: awards probably doing a fantasy, Draft i'm pretty, sure play, predictions,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: yeah playoff, prediction play play in, Prediction rags into the
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: and then college.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: Sooner or, later we're about to do pretty much our
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: draft special that we did last. Year we were pretty
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: on point last, year so, yeah we were, yeah, yeah
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: we'll See and if y'all guys kind of like breaking who,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: Knows i'm probably thinking about throwing out there to fons
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: of that you get him on BECAUSE i know he's
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: been studying some college, football some some. Drafts i'm not gonna.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: LIE i texted him, individually so SO i was a
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: little bit ahead of.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: YOU i was, okay all, Right SO i guess is
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: gonna be on for The draft? Special?
• 1:45:17
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