Latest / Mini Scroll / MINI SCROLL: Charli xcx vs. Lorde, MrBeast defends trans rights, Madeline Argy & Harry Jowsey (?), Alex Warren & Kouvr Anon married + Swiftie news
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- 0:00Hi everyone. Welcome to Mini Scroll, the
- 0:02daily Internet culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories
- 0:06from social media, the creator economy and the digital space
- 0:09every Monday through Thursday. I'm your host, Lauren Meisner,
- 0:12the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
- 0:17Welcome back to Mini Scroll, everyone.
- 0:19So on Thursday I was like, I hope on Monday I'll be sitting
- 0:24here, I'll be telling you guys that all the stressful things
- 0:27that were happening in my business the last two weeks are
- 0:30done. They've been put to bed and I'm
- 0:33just back to normal. And I can tell you that's
- 0:35exactly what has happened. Like I said, one day maybe I'll
- 0:39be able to tell you guys what happened.
- 0:40But it was like a legal situation and it was very big
- 0:45and scary. I dealt with it the best that I
- 0:49could, but it was actually so wild and my mental health was
- 0:53so, so bad for two weeks. If you follow me on TikTok, you
- 0:55know I posted a video literally crying on the Internet.
- 0:59But anyways, it is all resolved. Everything is done.
- 1:02Also, I should say, given that I am a media brand in a podcast
- 1:05that talks about people it was not related to like defamation
- 1:09or anything like that. It was such a freak situation.
- 1:12Another company had been mistaken for my company.
- 1:15Anyways, it was like this whole mess but I was very very scared
- 1:18of course at the time but it is done.
- 1:21Anyways, let's just get right into the stories.
- 1:24I have quite a few stories for you guys today to again make up
- 1:27for. No deep dive on Friday, but
- 1:29there will be a deep dive this Friday.
- 1:30We are back to normal schedule now.
- 1:33So the first story that I have for you guys is I want us to
- 1:35talk about all the Lord and Charlie XCX drama quote UN quote
- 1:39because they have made-up on the remix as we know.
- 1:42So Charlie XCX and Lord have squashed their beef revealing
- 1:46they made-up on the remix of Charlie's song Girl So Confusing
- 1:49Together from her new hit album Brat.
- 1:52So on Girl So Confusing, Charlie compares herself to another
- 1:56female pop star. She sings.
- 1:58People say we're alike, they say we've got the same hair.
- 2:01We talk about making music, but I don't know if it's honest.
- 2:04Can't tell if you want to see me falling over and failing and you
- 2:08can't tell what you're feeling. I think I know how you feel.
- 2:12So the song was revealed to be about Lorde, and she features on
- 2:17the remix as we all know it. Like literally broke the
- 2:19Internet over the weekend. But first here's like what went
- 2:22down. Here's kind of like the high
- 2:24level story of Lord and Charlie XX O Lord and Charlie released
- 2:28breakout hits around the same time.
- 2:30Charlie with I love it and Lord with Royals in 2014, an
- 2:34interviewer confused Charlie with Lord, asking her how she
- 2:39came up with the song for Royals or like the idea behind Royals
- 2:42one of my. Favorite songs that you have is
- 2:45Royals. Where did you get the
- 2:46inspiration for that Royals came from?
- 2:50You know, just me looking at like how I'm from New Zealand,
- 2:55from like a small town and you know, like I'm not really part
- 3:00of that bougie like lifestyle culture.
- 3:03So I thought I'd write a song about.
- 3:05It Charlie played along and said that she's from New Zealand, so
- 3:08she doesn't relate to that bougie scene, and it became a
- 3:12running joke in Charlie's fandom to ask her to play Royals kind
- 3:16of off the back of this interview.
- 3:18Obviously they do have a bit of a resemblance.
- 3:21So they've always been compared. They came out around the same
- 3:24time. You know, I think that's just
- 3:25unfortunately like what happens in Hollywood in the music
- 3:29industry. Women are pit against each other
- 3:31constantly. And that's just, in my opinion,
- 3:34like a classic case. Like this is, this was a classic
- 3:36case of that between Lord and Charlie.
- 3:39And then of course, being constantly pit against someone
- 3:42else, whether it's valid or not, like whether you actually have
- 3:46beef with them or not, it's going to make you feel insecure.
- 3:49It's going to make you feel a certain type of way about that
- 3:52person as well. So, you know, I think it just
- 3:55makes sense. There was a lot of like
- 3:56miscommunication between the two of them and there was a lot of
- 3:59kind of insecurities and confusing feelings, I think
- 4:02because of how the industry treated them.
- 4:04So in May of this year, 2024, Charlie told Rolling Stone UK
- 4:09that she compared herself a lot to Lorde in the mid twenty 10s
- 4:13around the Royals era. So she said when Royals came
- 4:16out, I was super jealous of the success of that song Got and
- 4:19that elegant you piece all this stuff together in your brain.
- 4:22Like she was into my music. She had big hair, I had big
- 4:25hair. She wore black lipstick.
- 4:26I once wore black lipstick. You create these parallels and
- 4:30think, wow, that could have been me.
- 4:32So when Brat came out, there was a ton of speculation.
- 4:35That girl so confusing was about Lord.
- 4:37Lord was then spotted at Charlie's concert, and then
- 4:40shortly after, Charlie announced that Lord was going to be on the
- 4:43remix. Lord's verse seems to respond
- 4:46back to Charlie's insecurities while also letting her know that
- 4:50everything is OK, she says. Well, honestly, I was speechless
- 4:53when I woke up to your voice note.
- 4:55Oh my God, I can't read this like these lyrics without like
- 4:58hearing it in my head if I accidentally start singing it.
- 5:01I'm sorry you told me how you'd be feeling.
- 5:04Let's work it out on the remix. You'd always say let's go out,
- 5:07but then I'd cancel last minute. I was so lost in my head and
- 5:10scared to be in your pictures because for the last couple
- 5:12years I've been at war in my body.
- 5:14I tried to starve myself thinner and then I gained all the weight
- 5:17back. I was trapped in the hatred and
- 5:19your life seems and your life seemed so awesome.
- 5:21I never thought for a second my voice was in your head.
- 5:24Girl, you walk like a bitch. When I was 10 someone said that
- 5:28and it's just self-defense until you're building a weapon.
- 5:30She believed my projection and now I totally get it.
- 5:33Forgot that inside the icon, there's still a young girl from
- 5:36Essex Because I ride for you, Charlie.
- 5:40This verse has literally broke the Internet.
- 5:42First of all, it's just so nice to see these two women publicly
- 5:46like and in their art form, you know, address the industry
- 5:50pitting them against each other, but then also address their
- 5:53internal turmoil that they were going through.
- 5:56And I think that's just so relatable.
- 5:58Like it's super relatable on Charlie's side to feel like a
- 6:01jealous of the person that you feel like you're in direct
- 6:03competition with that the industry is making you in direct
- 6:06competition with. And it's also from Lord's
- 6:09perspective, when she's like, I never thought that like I was in
- 6:12your head at all. I was dealing with my own
- 6:13demons. You know, that's also incredibly
- 6:16relatable because so often when you have this kind of messiness
- 6:21between friends or relationships like that between women, it's
- 6:25like it actually has nothing to do with like if you actually
- 6:28have drama or beef, it quite often manifests from a place of,
- 6:32you know, insecurity or self defensiveness or whatever it is.
- 6:36And I think that this whole verse and this whole remix is
- 6:41just so beautiful, even though of course it's like still in
- 6:43Charli XC XS classic, you know, like dance pop, hyper pop vibe.
- 6:48It's so powerful and beautiful and I love it.
- 6:51So that's the story of them. And then one last tidbit about
- 6:54Charlie XCX. She had to tell her fans to stop
- 6:57chanting Taylor is dead at her concerts.
- 7:00Because as we know, I think I reported it on its last week,
- 7:03but people are speculating that Taylor is re releasing or
- 7:07releasing I guess all these like different versions of tortured
- 7:11poets department to knock Charlie off #1 or block her from
- 7:15getting number one in the UK with Brat.
- 7:18So yes, I guess people are chanting that at her concerts
- 7:22and she's like can you stop? Like this is literally so toxic.
- 7:25It's also exactly what she just addressed with Lorde on Girl.
- 7:28So confusing. So anyways on to the next story.
- 7:32Mr. Beast has defended trans friend Ava Tyson.
- 7:37So we all know that Ava worked with Mr. Beast and actually also
- 7:42Co hosted his channel for quite a while before she transitioned
- 7:47and you know, was a huge part of the Mr. Beast channel of the Mr.
- 7:51Beast family, the fandom, all of that.
- 7:53And then a couple of years ago, I believe it was she started
- 7:56transitioning or asking, you know, to use she her pronouns
- 7:59and things like that. So anyways, Mr. Beast has been
- 8:02very supportive of this. And you know, I am like, if Mr.
- 8:06Beast has one hater, it's me. But I want to give him credit
- 8:09where credit is due. And I think that this is an
- 8:11important story to talk about because Mr. Beast is one of the
- 8:14most visible creators in the world.
- 8:16He has the most followers. He is a white man from the South
- 8:19in the US and he is standing up for trans rights.
- 8:21And I think that's an important thing to talk about.
- 8:24So Nick Merckx, who is a creator, streamer, manosphere
- 8:29guy, Faze, Faze Clan, I think he's part of Faze clan.
- 8:32His username says Faze Nick Merckx.
- 8:35But phase has had such like a a rebrand and like a restructure.
- 8:40So I'm not sure if he has remained in phase clan.
- 8:42But anyways, so Ava had posted something on Twitter over the
- 8:45weekend and Nick wrote, you should be ashamed of yourself
- 8:48leaving your wife and child to play pretend.
- 8:51One day you'll wake up and realize what you've done and
- 8:53play pretend as in, I guess, quote UN quote, pretend to be a
- 8:57girl. So drama alert Keemstar had
- 9:01reported on this Twitter interaction and then Mr. Beast
- 9:05responded to Drama alerts Twitter and wrote Ava is
- 9:09literally always with her kid and doesn't even go on shoots to
- 9:12spend more time with him. Tuckman is always smiling.
- 9:15Not sure why this rumor is a thing.
- 9:18So look, it's like the bare minimum in my opinion, of a
- 9:21friend to do that. But Mr. Beast, like I said, he
- 9:24is the most followed creator in the world.
- 9:25And it's important also to think about whose audience is like his
- 9:29audience for the most part is young men and boys.
- 9:33So for their fave, like this person that they idolize, like
- 9:37he is God to them, for him to be standing up for trans rights is
- 9:42super powerful. It's very important and I think
- 9:47it's great to see. And I'm, I'm glad that Mister
- 9:49Beast spoke out about this, that he said that it's such a
- 9:52disgusting narrative to hear somebody say you left your wife
- 9:56and kid for this, as if transitioning your gender
- 10:00doesn't mean that you couldn't still be a present parent or a
- 10:03very good parent. Like it has truly nothing to do
- 10:06with it. So I really appreciate that he
- 10:08also stood up for that part of it, you know, and said like that
- 10:12this is just not true. Like Ava is a great parent.
- 10:15So you know what, kudos to Mr. Beast.
- 10:17Thank you Mr. Beast for saying that.
- 10:19And Mr. Beast is also in Australia right now.
- 10:21And apparently if you buy festivals, this is not
- 10:24sponsored, but if you buy festivals right now, you are
- 10:28entered to win a car, I think if you're in Australia.
- 10:30So maybe I'll go buy a festival at lunch.
- 10:34OK. Anyways, the next story that I
- 10:36have for you guys is that Madeline RG and Harry Josie are
- 10:40quote UN quote, not dating despite speculation.
- 10:43This is kind of a womp womp story about whatever.
- 10:45So Cannes Lions festival was last week and multiple photos of
- 10:49Tik Toker, Madeline Argy and reality * Harry Josie were
- 10:54posted all over the Internet and many people were like, OK, are
- 10:58they together? What's going on here?
- 11:00A few of the photos did make it seem like they were getting kind
- 11:02of cozy. They were like looking at his
- 11:04phone together laughing. They were like in close
- 11:06quarters. There's one photo where his arm
- 11:08is like, I don't know if it's like a round her, if it's just
- 11:10kind of like behind her, but either way, they're like getting
- 11:13close. At least it seemed like that.
- 11:15However, news sources have told TMZ that they are not together
- 11:19and they are simply friends because they are both part of
- 11:22Alex Cooper's unwell network. Which is not that surprising
- 11:26actually when you think about the unwell connection.
- 11:28Of course they would know each other and probably pretty well.
- 11:30That being said, Madeline was linked to Central C on and off
- 11:33for a very long time. I don't know where they stand
- 11:36now, but I know that they were like, very on and off.
- 11:39While Harry has recently been linked with reality star Jess
- 11:43Vestal. Vestal.
- 11:44Vestal, I'm sorry if I said that, Vestal.
- 11:46I think because the two have a relationship that's currently
- 11:50playing out on Netflix's show Perfect Match.
- 11:53So if you thought that Madeleine and Harry were dating, you're
- 11:57wrong. And that's not on that.
- 12:00OK, the next story that I have for you guys is that Covert Anon
- 12:03and Alex Warren are married. This is such a throwback.
- 12:07So Hype House alum Cover Anon and Alex Warren officially wed
- 12:11in California on Saturday. The wedding interestingly, also
- 12:15had a lot of references to Taylor Swift.
- 12:17So there's references to Who's Afraid of Little Me.
- 12:20I think Cover posted her official kind of like wedding
- 12:22reveal TikTok video to that song.
- 12:25And then there was a lot of references, of course, to love
- 12:28her throughout the venue and like the event.
- 12:31So, for example, an entrance to go outside at the venue, read at
- 12:35every table and then behind this, like, photo wall or on
- 12:41this photo wall, I guess with like a couch where you could
- 12:43take, you know, guest photos and things like that.
- 12:45It said, I'll save you a seat, which obviously that whole line
- 12:48goes together and love her. So some notable guests were
- 12:51Charlie Demilio and Markell Washington.
- 12:54And yeah, this is just so cute. I mean, we know Cover and Alex
- 12:57began dating in 2018, and they were both founding members of
- 13:01the Hype House. They announced their engagement
- 13:03on New Year's Eve 2022. And I mean, they really are the
- 13:08only couple that was left standing in that, like, OG
- 13:11TikTok era when TikTok really blew up.
- 13:13And we were, like, obsessed with those kids.
- 13:16And they stuck the course, stayed the course, stayed the
- 13:19course. They stuck it out and stayed the
- 13:21course. I was trying to combine those
- 13:23two. But, yeah.
- 13:24So I think this is so sweet. I love that, you know, they've
- 13:27just stayed together. They seem really supportive of
- 13:29each other. They seem super in love.
- 13:32And it's cute, OK. And then the last story that I
- 13:34have for you guys. Speaking of Taylor Swift and
- 13:37love, Travis Kelsey joined Taylor Swift on stage at the
- 13:42Arrows tour. So Swifty is attending London's
- 13:45Arrows tour on Sunday night. Got a very exciting surprise
- 13:48when Travis Kelsey joined Taylor on stage for I Can Do It With a
- 13:52Broken Heart. It was actually really cute.
- 13:55I mean, it was kind of cringe, but like, of course it was going
- 13:58to be cringe. I don't know if we expected
- 14:00anything different to see Travis Kelsey dancing on stage with
- 14:05Taylor. And of course, we also know that
- 14:08this weekend they went Instagram official with a selfie with the
- 14:11royal family. So that is quite the hard
- 14:14launch. Anyways guys, that is it for
- 14:18mini scroll today. I hope you guys liked this
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- 14:25I love you guys so much and I will talk to you guys tomorrow.
- 14:29Bye.