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SEASON2 EPISODE_135_DA CREW PODCAST_HOST SHANETTE W JOHNSON · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 2: Good evening and how are you guys doing on this
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  Speaker 2: wonderful Monday afternoon. Thank you for joining me for another
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  Speaker 2: episode soda. Let's talk about it tonight. We have turning
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  Speaker 2: with us is mister James Legate, who is currently in
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  Speaker 2: Texas fighting for his freedom. To regain his freedom, We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna phrase it like that he's been wrong
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  Speaker 2: for convicted decades. It's a documentary out called Conviction, The
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  Speaker 2: The Bingo K Murder. If you didn't have a chance
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  Speaker 2: to watch it the last time he was on, please
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  Speaker 2: go back and want shit and you will see what
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  Speaker 2: he's saying. What he talked tell us tonight and what
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  Speaker 2: he's been telling us is nothing but the truth. This
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  Speaker 2: is a small declaimer. I'm using my platform for for
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  Speaker 2: people to voice there to put out their information. So
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  Speaker 2: this is no reflection on the crew podcasts. Everything is
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  Speaker 2: coming from them and it's not coming from It's not
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  Speaker 2: a reflection of the Crew podcast. I'm waiting for my
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  Speaker 2: co hosts to Chop to call in Cornell. He'll be
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  Speaker 2: calling any minute. But right now I have mister Legate
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  Speaker 2: on the fall with us. Mister Legate, how are you
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  Speaker 2: doing this? How are you doing this?
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  Speaker 4: So that's good?
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  Speaker 2: So it be yes, I can hear you fine, can
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  Speaker 2: you hear me?
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  Speaker 9: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: That's good. So how how have you been doing since
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  Speaker 2: the last time we talked?
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  Speaker 9: Well, I've been pretty busy. I adds down to the
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  Speaker 9: courts for a new Toronto under the Texas Bugles, the
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  Speaker 9: criminal procedure forty four overs one word you can if
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  Speaker 9: you if you meet the four ball relearnment, they should
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  Speaker 9: be entitled to a tutra, which I showed them that
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  Speaker 9: I too, because once the evidence really shows that really
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  Speaker 9: there is no poy to accuse me to take away
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  Speaker 9: the actually who getting hurt of Frederic themoter telling me
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  Speaker 9: I need to go take care of this guy. He
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  Speaker 9: takes him away, and now they don't have no evidence
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  Speaker 9: to bring against type of motive because there's no independent cooperation.
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  Speaker 9: I'm like, well, who who's accused me of? What am
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  Speaker 9: I here for? So that's what I'm doing, and that's
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  Speaker 9: crazy guy every day because I have people like you
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  Speaker 9: helping meet and trying to bring out uh, bring awareness
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  Speaker 9: to this injustice. And thank you no Pluch for having
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  Speaker 9: me bat and the following mes. You share a little
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  Speaker 9: bit more and answer all the questions, use your audience
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  Speaker 9: whatever I want. You ask the questions. I'm ready to
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  Speaker 9: be sure. And all I ask is people, you know,
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  Speaker 9: go take my work for it. If they want to
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  Speaker 9: go see the documentary, go to YouTube and click on
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  Speaker 9: that this ship the.
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  Speaker 4: Big Ope Murder.
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  Speaker 9: If they want to read the story that was written
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  Speaker 9: my textive de Fliver magazine, the story that called the
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  Speaker 9: part of the proof about the first I discovered that
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  Speaker 9: this was in twenty eleven. So uh with that be insane.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, there's so much that's going on right now
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  Speaker 9: with my case that I'm to do it, and it's
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  Speaker 9: surprised because I can't even get the course to give
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  Speaker 9: me another dentry here. I can't even get the course
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  Speaker 9: to do anything for me. I haven't attorney on running
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  Speaker 9: if I get the talk to my pilot, because I
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  Speaker 9: don't even get a response, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So now, yeah, because I talked to mister Earl probably
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  Speaker 2: a week ago, and he told me the same thing
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  Speaker 2: that you guys are. I'm not getting your mail all
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  Speaker 2: the time. So right now my co host is joining us. Everybody,
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  Speaker 2: welcome my co host back Cornell.
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  Speaker 9: How are you doing, hell ma'am, how are you doing?
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  Speaker 9: And I'm glad to be here tonight. How are you doing? Legate?
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  Speaker 9: And how are you doing? Audience? How are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 9: Let's I'm doing great? Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: So we're gonna we want to take off first. You know,
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  Speaker 2: let me get this. We've been trying to meet. We've
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  Speaker 2: been going back and forth, bouncing ideas. Are things off?
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  Speaker 2: Are off each other? Meant me and mister Cornell have
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  Speaker 2: so mister Legate, dude, you recall is there a backdoor
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  Speaker 2: to that establishment, to the to the bar. Do you
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  Speaker 2: recall is there a ball door.
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  Speaker 9: To detective say or what community? And that's so uh mother.
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  Speaker 2: So the the the detectives, there's no back door to
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  Speaker 2: that to the establishment.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, yes, man, there's no back door or nothing there.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 9: They laughing as part as my turkey was telling me
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  Speaker 9: because they well, maybe there's a back door to many
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  Speaker 9: said no, there's no back door, and they can't be
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  Speaker 9: checked on in that often. No, No, there is no
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  Speaker 9: back to can you hear me?
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  Speaker 2: I can hear you, Cardinal?
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  Speaker 9: Okay, well, yes, yes, Sam, thank you very much ma'am
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  Speaker 9: for having me here listening the gate. Okay, sir, when
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  Speaker 9: you were sitting in the in the bar, Okay, how
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  Speaker 9: many people were in that witches Well it was kind
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  Speaker 9: of I got there like about len a thirty in
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  Speaker 9: the afternoon and I there Waby's like vis that must
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  Speaker 9: by a handful of propulent oh man, kind of hard
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  Speaker 9: to call. I know that the bartender was there with
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  Speaker 9: her sister who was waite. Uh, that was a tiny
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  Speaker 9: brandy there. Uh, it was maybe I think there was
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  Speaker 9: maybe s eight people tops. Okay, So that being said,
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  Speaker 9: how did you directed at the gilt of the offense
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  Speaker 9: of mister Edie garstin.
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  Speaker 2: Judd he wanted h The question was how was you directed?
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  Speaker 2: Who got you to go? Directed you to mister Eddie
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  Speaker 2: Garcia Uh? Who directed you over there?
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  Speaker 9: Okay? Well that that right there is because learning bad
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  Speaker 9: at yourself. I met learning through Ali Flea, who was
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  Speaker 9: the owner of brus Worts Cards. He had me go
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  Speaker 9: and take as matters go get her car register because
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  Speaker 9: she had just bought a car from Row Sports Cars.
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  Speaker 9: And like I mentioned last time, she had a franciscope
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  Speaker 9: on her view mirror and did to break the ic.
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  Speaker 9: You know, I asked her she was in the medical field.
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  Speaker 9: She said yeah. I said, I'm here. She said no,
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  Speaker 9: oh the upper culebra and Callahan. Well right away. I
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  Speaker 9: had a friend of mine that met the textas gems
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  Speaker 9: and I said, right next to textis jams and she goes,
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  Speaker 9: she like looked at me and she goes, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 9: I said, yeah, my friend owns that barrector. And like
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  Speaker 9: I also mentioned, in nineteen ninety six, they started construction
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  Speaker 9: on that office and that's how I learned that they
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  Speaker 9: were having that. I didn't know it was dependable over her. Well,
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  Speaker 9: you was going to be an overlooking So when uh,
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  Speaker 9: when he got the I go and hang out around
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  Speaker 9: her house.
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  Speaker 4: Oh what.
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  Speaker 9: Okay? When minute uh? When Holly Kala asked me if
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  Speaker 9: I could find the car for him? You know, I
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  Speaker 9: ain't hip at the job, so why used to go
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  Speaker 9: to her house and I'd wait around, but I never
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  Speaker 9: see no car. I never see nothing. I'd thrive up
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  Speaker 9: at three o'clock in the morning, I wouldn't see nothing.
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  Speaker 9: And I'd be around there and nothing, so I done.
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  Speaker 8: Well.
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  Speaker 9: They told me she worked over there, So that's why
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  Speaker 9: I went to that place. Because she told me she
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  Speaker 9: worked and I kind of figured it's gonna you know,
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  Speaker 9: she might drive up to pick up her chake or something,
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  Speaker 9: and so that's what brought me up with it. Nobody
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  Speaker 9: asked me to go there. I just went on my own.
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  Speaker 9: So kind of go ahead, Cornell, So will you rent
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  Speaker 9: to that office? The bird turn the stude? You go
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  Speaker 9: to that office? Right. I don't know if she saw
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  Speaker 9: me any going, because I said she was inside. I
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  Speaker 9: just walked out and walk in that direction. So she
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  Speaker 9: goes walk Because so are you indicating at the Birn
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  Speaker 9: there's a sea Vale? Yes, yes, the one, the one
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  Speaker 9: that actually worked. Her name was h Josie Hernandez. Hka
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  Speaker 9: all right, at Josie Hernandez, a sister Rosco. Okay, if
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  Speaker 9: do you have any relations to lift attention to Hernndez?
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  Speaker 9: Oh no, not that I know of. No, No, okay.
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  Speaker 9: So but you said you walked in the office on
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  Speaker 9: your own life. So when you got to my office,
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  Speaker 9: how did you have your suit case? Did you have
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  Speaker 9: your suitcase in your handle? Did you sit your suitcase down?
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  Speaker 9: What respected it too for letting your suitcas go? How
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  Speaker 9: is that properable?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 9: I I walked here with my friend because I had
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  Speaker 9: my cards and everything with me. So when I got
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  Speaker 9: to the door, I walked in during the gentleman who
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  Speaker 9: happened to be any guardian who I didn't know at
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  Speaker 9: the time. He was on the phone. Right there was
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  Speaker 9: the reception, it said, except there was no reception. That
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  Speaker 9: figures they were following the Mexic work. So he told
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  Speaker 9: me to waiting, so as I went to that walk
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  Speaker 9: and then he turned to walk to his office and
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  Speaker 9: wanted for me to follow him. And while he wouldn't
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  Speaker 9: be having people, I have to my bag on top
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  Speaker 9: of there and this car on the phone, And when
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  Speaker 9: he got up the call, that's when I tried to
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  Speaker 9: shake the can and introduce myself from giving my business
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  Speaker 9: card and just this where everything just to prove that
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  Speaker 9: he just put the table over. Everything had to so
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  Speaker 9: bad as they think, I know, I'm coming out of
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  Speaker 9: the burner chat that was down the ways on I
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  Speaker 9: think you said, Ingram so you so you said.
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  Speaker 2: That mister Garcia is the one that motioned you to
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  Speaker 2: come into the office.
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  Speaker 9: Right right right there, to his office or whatever. Their
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  Speaker 9: office was right there, and I just din I was
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  Speaker 9: insigne he was right here, might by a receptionist said,
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  Speaker 9: And then he hoped for me to follow him, so
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  Speaker 9: I did. He went to the middle office and uh,
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  Speaker 9: I went around at the table, and that's when everything happened.
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  Speaker 2: Did you know anybody else inside the office or did
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  Speaker 2: anybody follow come in behind you? Do you do you
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  Speaker 2: recall anybody anything like that?
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  Speaker 9: Now? I know if I walked in dinner. He told
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  Speaker 9: me to wait, and I followed him, and my my
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  Speaker 9: attention was getting my business card out. I had a
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  Speaker 9: business card in my hand, and I'm sure they bought
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  Speaker 9: the business cards that I didn't tell my driver's license
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  Speaker 9: and everything else that identified they found it in the office.
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  Speaker 9: I never lied. Oh no, I wasn't there. I wasn't
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  Speaker 9: to the old there. So I'm looking for a medic
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  Speaker 9: medic and this is where they getting in all computers
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  Speaker 9: because they were trying to tell me that Merdon medics
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  Speaker 9: didn't work there. Well they wanted that they should did
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  Speaker 9: she just didn't work there at that point in time. Okay,
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  Speaker 9: mister the gate that's trying attending right now what you
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  Speaker 9: was trying to pronounce to you, is how d it
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  Speaker 9: long impossible that you were there with your suitcase? You
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  Speaker 9: set your suitcase down.
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  Speaker 8: On your desk.
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  Speaker 9: You said that when you want to shake you in
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  Speaker 9: and have him one of your business cards. He immediately
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  Speaker 9: trying to now why would he do that? Did he
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  Speaker 9: listen to look beyond you and saw somebody behind you?
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  Speaker 9: Is when the shot I believe that when the worst
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  Speaker 9: I believe that was the guy come in on and
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  Speaker 9: drunk and just shoot up the poster here because I
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  Speaker 9: wouldn't follow him. So marriage you ran immediately, leaving your
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  Speaker 9: toothcas on the desk right again.
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  Speaker 8: Thing over?
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  Speaker 9: Okay, so when you very h the fact, you know,
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  Speaker 9: I meant to say, what you came in? You didn't
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  Speaker 9: see the shooter? Oh yeah, like I said, I saw
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  Speaker 9: somebody and that I even feel it an artist or nothing.
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  Speaker 9: I think was dead because like I said, when I
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  Speaker 9: was in the county, I was like, like the fire,
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  Speaker 9: what am I doing? I did it become murder? Who
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  Speaker 9: got and murdered? I didn't hurt nobody. If I finally remember,
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  Speaker 9: I remember, So this is why I remember. Somebody was
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  Speaker 9: finding guy and this was the kicker. Is when I
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  Speaker 9: was playing with detectives in December and there was somebody
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  Speaker 9: behind me and the dude head dark clothing on with
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  Speaker 9: nothing like a do rag or something on his head,
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  Speaker 9: and uh uh and and that's what I saw. Well
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  Speaker 9: next sure you know, I'm hearing that all the witnesses
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  Speaker 9: were saying that it was the guy in the black
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  Speaker 9: they ran by it, but they also said they saw
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  Speaker 9: a guy in a white shirt, which is me, and
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  Speaker 9: even even the two sisters. Her testimonies contradicted each other
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  Speaker 9: because the markteader was saying that I had dark clothing on,
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  Speaker 9: but the fisher said no, he had a white shirt on.
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  Speaker 9: He even got a hot house on his shirt, which
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  Speaker 9: they catched for blood.
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  Speaker 4: Right in fact negative, Let me up, Let me jump
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  Speaker 4: in real quick.
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  Speaker 2: Angela just informally that she has a video. I sent
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  Speaker 2: her a clip, so I want to play the one
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  Speaker 2: of the clips for the audience real quick. So Angela,
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  Speaker 2: if you can, can you go ahead and roll that
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  Speaker 2: clip so we can listen to it.
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  Speaker 6: Linkoli Gate to the murder, except he was in the
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  Speaker 6: building and he ran. He didn't have gunpowder residue on
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  Speaker 6: his hands, no fingerprints were found. There is no motive.
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  Speaker 3: When we had the detective on the stand, Detective Albright,
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  Speaker 3: I asked him about forensics, specifically, was their blood on
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  Speaker 3: James Legate's clothes and he said no, there was not.
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  Speaker 3: I then asked him about gunpot of residue and he
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  Speaker 3: said there was no gunpot of residue. James Legate tested
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  Speaker 3: within hours clean, nothing on his hands, nothing on his clothes.
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  Speaker 3: I asked him about fingerprints. He said there was no fingerprints.
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  Speaker 3: I said, so, in general, there's no forensic connecting my
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  Speaker 3: client to this case.
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  Speaker 4: Is that correct?
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  Speaker 2: He said, that's correct.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I think it was the evidence that was found
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  Speaker 10: at the scene, pointed us immediately to him.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have many murderers who leave their identification. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're bet mister Legate. Is that the first time you
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  Speaker 2: heard the little clipping?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, ma'am. I've never even seen the docum mensary. All
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  Speaker 9: I ever got from this from now was a four
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  Speaker 9: page letter explained everything that she found and and what
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  Speaker 9: uh the state actually said when they brought uh summote
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  Speaker 9: us to their attention, and and uh on uh uh
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  Speaker 9: Jesse Hernandez Hall everything about his life well even in
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  Speaker 9: the even the detective all right succlement report it showed
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  Speaker 9: that he about everything and that he didn't even want
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  Speaker 9: to take a but they didn't even bother to look
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  Speaker 9: at that. They didn't even bother to do anything because
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  Speaker 9: though he had a cocaine uh charge, right after the murder,
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  Speaker 9: they charged him with cocaine, and I think they believe
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  Speaker 9: they indicted him as well, and then they dispit that
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  Speaker 9: case to testifying against me, so they knew he was
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  Speaker 9: lying about his policdentity. They despiped the case because it
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  Speaker 9: wasn't under one once on her Nance, which is his
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  Speaker 9: real name. It was under Jesse Hernanis, which is still
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  Speaker 9: on that record today. And uh, uh no, uh I didn't.
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  Speaker 9: I've never heard of this. Uh I've never heard any
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  Speaker 9: of his clips or even to the documentary.
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  Speaker 4: You know, sorry, and you know I wanted.
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  Speaker 2: I cliped that one so everyone can see that you
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  Speaker 2: are an innocent man.
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  Speaker 8: You are.
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  Speaker 2: You are an innocent man that's being framed. You did
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  Speaker 2: you hear what they said?
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  Speaker 4: You was tested?
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  Speaker 2: He was tested within hours or minutes. What they said.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't have no gun side, no gun residue on
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  Speaker 2: his hands, on his clothes, no fingerprints, and he just
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  Speaker 2: supposedly fired a weapon. They said he was arrested within
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  Speaker 2: what thirty minutes?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so that didn't give that wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: Have gave him no chance to go change no clothes.
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  Speaker 2: He was still in the same clothes, shoes, didn't give him,
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  Speaker 2: no chance to wash his hands or anything. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how long gun shop residues down your how long
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  Speaker 2: the resident down your hand. But they didn't have no evidence.
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  Speaker 2: The detective testified that they didn't have no evidence against him.
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  Speaker 9: Right, and now now you take away and federal some
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  Speaker 9: motive from the equation. Now I don't even have ancus
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: excuture didn't even different. So what am I doing in prison?
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: If you have somebody because you have the right to
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: confront the winkeet against you, Well they take away against you.
• 22:49
  Speaker 9: Who do I to have? Yeah, you know what, I'll
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: just liberal.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I want to jump in because this just dropped in
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: my spirit real quick. It came from the Bible. Remember
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: when the the man took the woman that was having
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: an adultory affair to Jesus and he was down in
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: the ground, and he was right in the ground, and
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: he said he told them to cast the further whoever
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: have not sinned, cast the first stone or and then
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: everybody walked away and he said, now, woman, where's your
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: accusers at? Where's your where's your accusers at? Mister loo Gate.
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: That kid I don't have none if you take away
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: gets you because the whole motive of Hernandi that they
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: already go. The whole motives or having me connected crime
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: was because I mean, Gilbra Dorsia was shying, you can't
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: go over the business that they were supposed to be
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: partners in. He was trying to push him out of
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: the business so he could take the business so himself.
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: That was the whole motive of Samoa wanting him dead.
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: Now in document you remember, you gotta remember where Tomortive
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: was supposedly dead when they had this motives. But when
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: miss Romero brought the information to the state that hey,
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: look Timoa, hat did be deactual ther line. But now
• 24:30
  Speaker 9: they recanted the kid man theory. Yeah, it's the line.
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: They recanted everything and said, well, it's more than likely
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: that you'll ever pay charges because there's no independent collaboration
• 24:43
  Speaker 9: to bring your take again. So well, wait a minute,
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: you had just hear an engine who are no longer
• 24:49
  Speaker 9: any equation because even hits as Timoti Soka and you
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: could take in some motive. So where is my accusers?
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: They did say John hern editre her headed to two
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: other individual per se but turn to uh to uh trial.
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: None of them went to trial because he never testify
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: or anything to cooborate this. So I've been trying to
• 25:17
  Speaker 9: get an avid Danky here so they can compete at
• 25:19
  Speaker 9: these guys and hey, scot tutors, you know, because I
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: want to prove my health in court. I don't want
• 25:25
  Speaker 9: to be domerated for shade, but I want to prove
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: in court. I want my day in court. I want
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: my day in court, and I want the proof. And
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: I cannot say, hey, okay, listen to the gate, sir,
• 25:37
  Speaker 9: right up there for a second man, aeah, listen the gate.
• 25:41
  Speaker 9: This issue is only please the evidence that late you
• 25:44
  Speaker 9: to the crime. Say the they saw you right out
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: of the office, and the and the suit tief, the
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: receipt and again the paperwork on the floor. So my
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: question serves this, you left your suitcase inside of the
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: office after the shops for fire. You say that says
• 25:59
  Speaker 9: no bad to him. So are you here to me
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: that you saw a male figure behind him you after
• 26:06
  Speaker 9: the shock to fire? Is that the bartenders the female
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: and that they're saying that they only saw you and
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: another individual will run out of the office. Is that true?
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: Is that what you're saying? Oh yeah, what it is.
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: And they only run by the front door of the club,
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: which the balka And then say the guy in the
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: black and like I did, like I said, there was
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: a guy named uh Adolf Sala who is right there
• 26:38
  Speaker 9: in the front of the bar eating up his car.
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: Dhr guy in black running running out from the up
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: and make sure uh car she had thought she had
• 26:49
  Speaker 9: chop to the ground. There was the metal guy that
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: was at the corner on the pole. Said that another
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: guy ran by going straight towards the whole ever street
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: where he was wearing a white shirt. So that shows
• 27:03
  Speaker 9: there's two individuals at that point of out. Okay, so
• 27:07
  Speaker 9: where was the body of just the guard still found
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: that right there on the on the sidewalk as you're
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: coming out from the from the office to the sidewalk
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: right there. Because when you try to grab the guy,
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: I ordered to miss your fallows he was running him,
• 27:28
  Speaker 9: but he didn't. He missed him and jumped. So with
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: that being said, the suitcase has been in the office
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: My part is this, how did that suitcase get out
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: of that office? And the people was from your suitcase
• 27:45
  Speaker 9: got on the floor and the suitcase put the got
• 27:49
  Speaker 9: down the street. How does that happen? Can you I
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: mean get well you get it, couldn't find it, but
• 27:59
  Speaker 9: it's my attorney. And if you and me looking at that,
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: you someboddy nobody put the team my name, They followed,
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: they told my history or whatever. They kill a bad
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: guy and they said, want you want to get in
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: out anybody in the offense. But the manage to prying
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: somewhere else. Okay, logic and logic. Let's look at logic
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: number one. E scuse me, ma'am.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: This does tha Okay, this.
• 28:25
  Speaker 9: Is a murder, mister Legate. This is a murder case,
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: mister Legates. And you know one thing, the Paris are
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: going to come because this man just got shot, so
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: they'll come investigated, the police and everybody comes to the
• 28:36
  Speaker 9: fire scene. The question is this when they went to
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: his office. Investeah, you took pictures? Where was that suitcase
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: at because that suitcase, what's the murder off? Get it
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: up down and behind the building. How did your suitcase
• 28:51
  Speaker 9: hit out of that office? Sell? Of course, so if
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: that's the box the bartender, somebody began to established it
• 28:59
  Speaker 9: happened they get the suitcase behind the buildings. Wow, because
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: you're saying that the man you kill is because you
• 29:04
  Speaker 9: take yourself ran how of the front door? So how
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: did the suitcase get behind the building? That's the question
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: I'm asking. Can you give me any type of vernonomics today?
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: I can't. I can't really uh really keep you a
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: definite and that conclusionary allegations that anything for the acts.
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: But the only thing I could change, the only thing
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: I could change it. And I can't say it's a
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: parttender because you she was in the club and this
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: is the office right in the club. So I do
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: not believe it has to do with any event. They
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: went in there and and seriously ranting the thing. But
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: I wouldn't think you were probably somebody from the police
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: department and actually said it up.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Because you know, because in the documentary, the only thing
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: that the witnesses that were standing outside, the people that
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: were standing outside, they just said that they seen you running.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: They didn't say they seen you with a briefcase or anything.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Only how the briefcase came in place is when I
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: was looking at the documentary. It says that this is
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: the type of briefcase or step satchel that you are known,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: that you are known to carry.
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: It.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Didn't say that you had and that they seen it bar.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: No one ever said that they seen you running with
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: that briefcase. They just seen it inside the bar. And
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: you are known to carry a sachel like that. That's
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: what the documentary says, and no one, no one seen
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: you run with it. My question is to you is
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: if supposed to you were supposed to have been the hitman,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: why would you drive your car and run passing your
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: car instead of getting in your car? You know that
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: that that would be my thinking. You know, if I'm
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: gonna do something crazy like that, whichy'all want, I probably
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: would have parked my car around the street or had
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: somebody waiting down down the street. You know, you wouldn't
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: just gonna take your car and park it out there
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and knowing that you finished go do a crime like
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: this and have no information inside of that car. At least,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't think he would do anything like that.
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: Well, yeah, I mean something like that, And I believe
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: Journey had had something to that point and put nobody
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: detending was smart another word trying to say that was stupid. Look,
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: hang up, would you like can I call back?
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, you can call back Angela actually have but we're
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: going to play another clip and got allow of you
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: guys to call me back.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, thank you, you're.
• 32:27
  Speaker 9: The game.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: The building away from the murder scene didn't have guns
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: on his hands, no fingerprints.
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: Were coming to town.
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: There's no mode on the murder scene.
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: It was found in a in a small fenced area
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: that was connected with an apartment complex.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: When we had the detective on the stand, Detective ball
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Brook found about friends with sacifically with briefcase, black bookcase,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: and he said, that's the description of a about guns.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: The gate was known to carry. There was no gun pow.
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: Opportunity gate and also because was clean described by.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: The nothing on his hands with it in the bar,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: nothing on his clothes.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: James finger rested, there was no power.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: I said, so in general, there's no friend to this case.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Is that definitely said that's what.
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: Well.
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: I think it was the evidence that was found at
• 33:20
  Speaker 10: the scene immediately excellent work.
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: And invest You don't have any murderers who leave their
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: identification problem is that the murder except he was in
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: the building, didn't have gunpowder resident on his hands, No
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: fingerprints were found.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: There is no motive, the jury told myself. Did everything stopped?
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Nobody investigated anything else. We have a detective picture, James,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: I asked, he didn't anything. Flood pointed close and so
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: when that was nother one would have to say after
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: and then asked those twenty four it wasn't. There was
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: no gun powder, James, get your job was within hour
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: was a d job. Nothing on his hammer, this thing
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: and nothing on this and make sure it was James
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: gask him about fingerprints. He said there was no fingerprints.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I said, so in general, there's no friends.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Wow, so we're back. I'm just waiting on my co
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: host and mister Legate to call me back. And here's
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: mister Legate, give me one minute a.
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: Free call from James Legate. And you guys.
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: Please monitoring to accept this free calls. One to refuse
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: this pre thank you for producing secure US. You may
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: start the conversation now.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we just waiting on mister Cornell to call back.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: But doing the we just played where they just showed
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: the clip where the soup the briefcase was found along
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: with the gun.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Was fine.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: So here's mister Cornell so we can finish our talk.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: Yah, you know this is just.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know your your your case really stands.
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: Out too to learn how to put money into your
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: pre Thank you producing secure us. You may start the
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: conversation now, Cornell.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: So we're we're all back. We're all back. So where
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: did we leave off of with?
• 35:47
  Speaker 9: Okay, you about the vehicle.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, about the vehicle. So you know, what would you
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: saying about your about your your lawyer was.
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: Attorney yes, and I'm like, you know, asked some kind
• 36:06
  Speaker 9: of something about the question about who can their their
• 36:10
  Speaker 9: owner dentication and everything to my hit and that three
• 36:15
  Speaker 9: if I remember correct me, uh that he never want
• 36:17
  Speaker 9: to sick part she was sifted prosecutor. She said, well,
• 36:21
  Speaker 9: nobody says that the dettending was smart an other wise
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: trying to say that I was so stupid and I'm
• 36:27
  Speaker 9: going to go down there with with my credentials parking
• 36:31
  Speaker 9: the car right in front and everything, and like you said,
• 36:34
  Speaker 9: I mean, who's gonna do that? And that don't make
• 36:37
  Speaker 9: no sense. I mean anybody can. I mean I didn't
• 36:40
  Speaker 9: even know there was a shape back there in the
• 36:42
  Speaker 9: back and and I said it was not my food.
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: And uh but I used to go to that club
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: there because there was a player, but I moved to
• 36:51
  Speaker 9: the back or anything like that. I just seen on
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: the main street and drop all the way down the
• 36:55
  Speaker 9: freeway or or back to the other way. Uh So
• 36:58
  Speaker 9: I done really paid attention. That was a little surprising
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: to me because anybody, anybody knows that neighborhood, they could
• 37:04
  Speaker 9: have just parked on the back and back if they
• 37:07
  Speaker 9: knew that there was a short cut to get to
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: that street, just like turning the one they said that
• 37:11
  Speaker 9: that that guy wearing black turned and he ran through
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: the back. You know, anybody would have known that. I mean,
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: I didn't know nothing about that, and that was so
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: so uh ironic to me, you know, but I told
• 37:24
  Speaker 9: my turn of that too, I'm looking if you don't
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: look at it, I ain't that existed there. I didn't
• 37:29
  Speaker 9: know nothing about that street. So yeah, so I hope
• 37:33
  Speaker 9: that answers your question.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that, you know, that was like to me
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: when I seen it and to and they said your
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: car was there, and I was like, wow, you know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: he don't book passed his car. He left the car
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: on scene. You know there, you know, the quickest getting
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: away with being jumping your car, just go or a
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: parky car down the street. I'm not giving nobody no ideas,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: So I'm just saying we're just having a conversation.
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Then you say this birch guard, and now I ain't
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: saying that. I'm just and mister leg Case. We're talking
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: about mister Legates. Nothing else.
• 38:21
  Speaker 9: Okay, Well, mister Waus. She had made an a question
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: to me earlier. She asked the question, how do mister
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: suggested Hernandez a form Hernndez, little, mister Legates, Well, I
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: I thank you to my turn in the first day.
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: If I'm you're a but if you came you know
• 38:47
  Speaker 9: to me by John nag he was folks were of
• 38:54
  Speaker 9: my of my boss. Jim Walker was the owner of
• 38:57
  Speaker 9: Advantage out of finance. He had made him mused with
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: John Hernandez. He sold him a car, bought his wife
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: a car, He bought my boats and way runners. And
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: uh that's how I met John Hernandez. That was how
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: I met him. I didn't know him anywhere any any
• 39:14
  Speaker 9: other way other than that. And uh you know that
• 39:18
  Speaker 9: was did you? He was job? He was a young kids. Okay,
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: So now my question is this, Well, would he say
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: that he was close by you, mister Rule and uh
• 39:29
  Speaker 9: and others when mister Muller Lrua was sending you and
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: the other guy that he needed to tation. Why would
• 39:37
  Speaker 9: mister hernandus say that he actually gave you a weapon
• 39:41
  Speaker 9: after that conversation. You know, I don't know, but if
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: you look at the the supplemental report, you're gonna shot
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: the contraction. He he he met Lona a week before
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: the murder, but then in the investigation report because also
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: that uh uh, and he gave me a gun a
• 40:05
  Speaker 9: month before the murder because I got into an agreement
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: to protect that tomorrow. So I'm like, well, what don't
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: make no sense? You see, I was saying, other to
• 40:15
  Speaker 9: get your stories. And one thing about the state, they
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: never paid my attorney his statement. They never had them.
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: We never had to prous havin him or anything like that.
• 40:26
  Speaker 9: We had to just go with whatever they thought to ask.
• 40:29
  Speaker 9: Even though the judge told her that well if he
• 40:31
  Speaker 9: made take ma, she need to give it to him.
• 40:33
  Speaker 9: But we never got it. Okay, So the girl was
• 40:37
  Speaker 9: there said to have to give it to you a
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: month before, mister God said had even made any mentions
• 40:42
  Speaker 9: of the discovery that the PSI was losing money because
• 40:46
  Speaker 9: the listener the moon was given away drinks and stuff
• 40:49
  Speaker 9: like that. Is that what you're saying, Well, yeah, the
• 40:53
  Speaker 9: gun was post We give it to me a month
• 40:55
  Speaker 9: before so that I can protect tomorrow. And remember he
• 40:59
  Speaker 9: also said it introduced me to the mona. There's a
• 41:06
  Speaker 9: big difference from a month to a week, you know
• 41:10
  Speaker 9: what I'm saying, So to protect your mooddy in the
• 41:14
  Speaker 9: future that I don't even know. And then I just
• 41:16
  Speaker 9: turned to meet him, uh later on in the future
• 41:19
  Speaker 9: a three weeks later or a funk lator that way,
• 41:22
  Speaker 9: And there was the all week we got three weeks later.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Could I ever could I jump in real quick?
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: Yes?
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Well, yes, you know, I was just reading this article.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I sent you the article. Uh, mister Legate and mister
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Garcia was he was don't nobody deserve to lose their life?
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: But he was tied into a lot of a lot
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: of other things. Did that And for them to say
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the clip that we just played that once they arrested you,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: the investigation didn't it just stopped. They didn't look into nothing,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: nobody else but I'm looking at this article and I
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: can't wait for you to read it, and I'm gonna
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: send it to YouTube. Cordell something about the light is
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: the light of newspaper down here? Or what is the
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: light down there?
• 42:32
  Speaker 9: It wasn't a paper company owned by the Hurst Corporation.
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: So.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Mister mister Eddie Garcia was trying to acquire that. Did
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: you guys know.
• 42:49
  Speaker 9: That, right? I heard about it. I just didn't.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was and it gives a lot of
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: you know, the Justice Apartment isn't aimed in this. A
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: couple of one. Senator, I just can't wait for you
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: to to get this this I can't wait for you
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: guys to get it, because we're gonna have to have
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: you come back and once you get it so we
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: can clear this up. We got a senator and we
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: got a consoleman all in this right, and you you know,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: and it's just like for them to stop investigating just
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: because your I D. Because they found not even the
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: hard copy of your I D. They found a copy
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: of your I D. For them just to stop and
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: not look into all the other business dealings that he
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: was associated with. Looking at the documentary, you know, one
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: of his daughters. I really truly believe that the family,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: I really believed that you didn't. They believe that you
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: have a part in it, but they don't believe that
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: you was actually committed the crime. Let me put it
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: like that, you know, and they want the truth, but
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: they go with this conviction, this unlawful conviction. They go
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: ahead and go take it because someone is actually in
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: prison for the murder of a father when you are
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: actually an innocent man.
• 44:43
  Speaker 9: Okay, okay, So yeah, let's let's look. They're indicating that
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: two people ran from this officer, two people yourself and
• 44:54
  Speaker 9: another individual who y'all have said that Garcia was chasing
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: and trying to collap. Okay, now, money up. He was
• 45:01
  Speaker 9: found outside of the office. That's the question, number one?
• 45:05
  Speaker 9: How could that logic be possible? That don't nobody know
• 45:07
  Speaker 9: that this man was not shot by it about somebody
• 45:10
  Speaker 9: else who he was cheeking, but obvious that he knew
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: who had shot at him and shot him five times.
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: So now I was logically possible, sir, that you are
• 45:20
  Speaker 9: being the only one who was investigated for causing the
• 45:24
  Speaker 9: death of mister Eddie gar Cia. But here is nobody
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: else is edicating that the guy who missed the gods.
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: It was stating, why is it that the people that
• 45:34
  Speaker 9: owned that was in the club did not point out
• 45:36
  Speaker 9: that the murderer had a weapon. So now let me
• 45:39
  Speaker 9: ask you this question. Then, how did the murder weapon
• 45:42
  Speaker 9: get found around the corner with the with the suitcase?
• 45:45
  Speaker 9: If the murderer ran out the building with the gun,
• 45:48
  Speaker 9: that don't add us? Did you think that I had
• 45:52
  Speaker 9: us bought me. No, it's gone, it's done. And you
• 45:57
  Speaker 9: because that's what they said, my whole belief, which I
• 46:01
  Speaker 9: can't support it because I don't have no brood and
• 46:04
  Speaker 9: that somebody who was investigating your case saw my name,
• 46:07
  Speaker 9: probably ran my name and can almost be benish told
• 46:10
  Speaker 9: before let just go ahead and give it to him,
• 46:13
  Speaker 9: should say, and just get going and hear everything you know,
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: set it all up, the pictures of it and everything.
• 46:19
  Speaker 9: That's my period. But I don't have no und So
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: I can't you earth that somehow this is a political
• 46:31
  Speaker 9: hitch to edicating to me wow, because I'm saying I'm
• 46:35
  Speaker 9: the fact that the muker a ran out of the office,
• 46:38
  Speaker 9: ran out of the business with the murder weapon that
• 46:40
  Speaker 9: he used to kill his me. Now your suitcase with
• 46:43
  Speaker 9: another girl was found around the corner. Is this a
• 46:46
  Speaker 9: se point type of a murder? On wasn't a prop
• 46:49
  Speaker 9: murder from some political forces to have the big mister
• 46:52
  Speaker 9: Edydart there killed? How was it logically possible, sir, that
• 46:57
  Speaker 9: there's nobody going out a second individual? And I grew
• 47:00
  Speaker 9: up being the only one for the of that's not
• 47:07
  Speaker 9: and and and then and that's that don't don't it
• 47:10
  Speaker 9: don't have uh don't add because one like he said
• 47:15
  Speaker 9: that none of those dirty falls even even uh Adolf
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: fellows are that was that was getting up a car
• 47:21
  Speaker 9: right there in the front of the club, Right there
• 47:22
  Speaker 9: in front, he said. The guy was looking was wearing
• 47:25
  Speaker 9: dark clothing. He said, the guy and I was the
• 47:28
  Speaker 9: only one in the lineup. There was nobody else in
• 47:31
  Speaker 9: the line by my fil and and how adols Are said, well,
• 47:36
  Speaker 9: he looked similar, but the guy that he saw had
• 47:39
  Speaker 9: dark cloth straight up told him like that. But they
• 47:42
  Speaker 9: just kept on, kept me, kept me. They didn't go
• 47:45
  Speaker 9: and investigate nobody else. They weren't looking for nobody else
• 47:49
  Speaker 9: or anything like that. And like I said earlier, I
• 47:52
  Speaker 9: explained to the detectives, I think somebody wearing dark clothing
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: because every everything happened so fast. I mean, it's kind
• 47:58
  Speaker 9: of hard they think that people with with somebody. I
• 48:01
  Speaker 9: wasn't doing drinking for all right. Everything happened so bad.
• 48:06
  Speaker 9: It's not like somebody's gonna stop and take a picture
• 48:09
  Speaker 9: over your mind and just be okay, I'm gonna remember
• 48:12
  Speaker 9: everything here and then you take off running. When everything
• 48:16
  Speaker 9: happened right there, It's like if I worked for a
• 48:18
  Speaker 9: Twilight Gone. I mean, it was just so crazy because
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: any think I know, I was coming out of the
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: berber key. I don't even remember getting out that boss
• 48:26
  Speaker 9: like they told me the bus. I don't remember nothing
• 48:29
  Speaker 9: of that. I can remember nothing I remember if I
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: wasn't playing for miss But because we don't have much time, listen,
• 48:40
  Speaker 9: my opinion in this particular case to get you some
• 48:43
  Speaker 9: type of relief on your convictions, I would be this
• 48:46
  Speaker 9: is that we would have to come up with a
• 48:48
  Speaker 9: signature petition asking that the some of his office re
• 48:51
  Speaker 9: looking to your Okay, so wow, because there's too many
• 48:54
  Speaker 9: unappad questions. Number one, you know, and number two, y
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: is it that the second ed it didn't it was?
• 48:59
  Speaker 9: Now say, because he was never caught, So why is
• 49:02
  Speaker 9: it that the Distant Attorney's office focus only on you
• 49:05
  Speaker 9: when you didn't have no gun file of residue on
• 49:07
  Speaker 9: your clothing on your head, That there was no finger
• 49:10
  Speaker 9: prints on the mineral weapon that they training, miss clearier
• 49:12
  Speaker 9: weapon that was found. There was no finger press on
• 49:15
  Speaker 9: the suitcase, there was no other special even connections the
• 49:18
  Speaker 9: pile of deadly weapon that college that THETI. With that
• 49:22
  Speaker 9: being said, sir, you know, we're as for anybody who's
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: in to this podcast tonight is to come on and
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: join the forces. And here we could sign a petition
• 49:31
  Speaker 9: to get mister James Lagate's cage reopened through the District
• 49:35
  Speaker 9: Attorney's office, the FBI, and the Department of Justice, because
• 49:38
  Speaker 9: the Tennis and man is being trained for a crime
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: that he did not commit number one and this clime
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: of is being covered up on the District Attorney's office,
• 49:45
  Speaker 9: the SDI and whoever else is covering this case up
• 49:48
  Speaker 9: because of the name of the individual killing the case
• 49:51
  Speaker 9: and his pride to cut congress members, tenators, they went
• 49:55
  Speaker 9: the vents senators and stuff like this. So listen legates
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: and then he's been trained for crimate didn't commit. And
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: I would hope that anybody that's listened to this podcast
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: tonight would join in on any time petition for the
• 50:08
  Speaker 9: disc Returney's office in their county to open up looks
• 50:12
  Speaker 9: at the ampligation.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: Thank you, ma'am.
• 50:13
  Speaker 9: That's my take on this.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: And you know what, I just want to read this
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: right for you, because this, you know, just keep on.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: You know, they keep saying that it was a hit,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: that you know it was a hit, that you know
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: they passed you that uh go do this, and it
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: says this little article says the DA got a controversy conviction,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: but nobody had ever figured out who bank wrote this
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: alleged hit. Mister look Gate, this is my last question,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: because we got nine minutes to wrap it up. Did
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: they ever check your bank account to see if how
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: much more was in your bank account, if if you
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: was paid to do this hit.
• 51:06
  Speaker 9: Yes, ma'am, they checked my bank account and the only
• 51:09
  Speaker 9: thing they all was a few hundred dollars that I
• 51:11
  Speaker 9: had in there. That's all I had. They have no more,
• 51:15
  Speaker 9: they have no other money nothing. In fact, my my
• 51:18
  Speaker 9: mom who helped me with my attorney, My mom paid
• 51:21
  Speaker 9: for everything. You know that she's a she's a still
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: living and I thank God for that. But she she's
• 51:28
  Speaker 9: the one who spent her life, savings and everything to
• 51:31
  Speaker 9: try to help me with my cage and all that time.
• 51:33
  Speaker 9: It was ninety nine years prince for the murder.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: I didn't do.
• 51:38
  Speaker 9: Wow, but they did say. They did say, yeah, MYI
• 51:44
  Speaker 9: of whose money? Who go off this congressmanship because of
• 51:48
  Speaker 9: Ady Garcia? Try to go and talk to a guy
• 51:52
  Speaker 9: named Charles ro Previous who came from He was the
• 51:55
  Speaker 9: surprise with that. They brought in outside the front of
• 51:58
  Speaker 9: the jury and went to Charles L. Friggas. He offered
• 52:01
  Speaker 9: a thousand dollars hit for Lady Garcia, and that the
• 52:06
  Speaker 9: hitman was supposed to be thrown in from California was
• 52:09
  Speaker 9: a Hungarian descent. Uh. And I had that on an
• 52:13
  Speaker 9: affidavit in my attorney rope against my eleven O seven
• 52:18
  Speaker 9: and he brought that. Uh. He also brought up that
• 52:20
  Speaker 9: I told him, oh, they got Jesse Hernandels tell him
• 52:25
  Speaker 9: that they got too, which was alive. And I objected
• 52:27
  Speaker 9: to that. And every every way possible he has made
• 52:30
  Speaker 9: it possible. I think he contributed part to my conviction
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: too by even asking for a self defense uh instructions
• 52:38
  Speaker 9: when I actually told him, no, don't do that, because
• 52:41
  Speaker 9: I know I'm not an attorney, but that almost I
• 52:44
  Speaker 9: keep putting me on the on the conference by me
• 52:46
  Speaker 9: saying I had a gun. I said, that's bland. I
• 52:48
  Speaker 9: didn't hire you to ride. I was hired you to
• 52:51
  Speaker 9: defend me. Was a not guilty defense. But they did
• 52:56
  Speaker 9: it anyway. And I also had a woman coming go
• 52:59
  Speaker 9: to the belief detective. They have to conctors come and
• 53:02
  Speaker 9: see me while I was your economy, I mean out
• 53:03
  Speaker 9: of ecologies, and they said that you want to be
• 53:07
  Speaker 9: the daughter of the deceased who said she believed that
• 53:10
  Speaker 9: I didn't do it, but I know who did it.
• 53:13
  Speaker 9: And like I told him, I said, look, I've already
• 53:16
  Speaker 9: got all this time in here. I'm not going to
• 53:17
  Speaker 9: do somebody at this time. If I too look at
• 53:20
  Speaker 9: this crime, trust me, I ain't got no shape in
• 53:23
  Speaker 9: my hand. By killing the mood was because I'm not
• 53:25
  Speaker 9: doing the time for nobody. This time has cost me
• 53:29
  Speaker 9: my daughter who died in two thousand and six. I
• 53:32
  Speaker 9: wasn't able to I wasn't okay, I wasn't yeah, I
• 53:42
  Speaker 9: wasn't able to tell the bar. I wasn't able to
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: hold her. I wasn't able to burry her so very
• 53:50
  Speaker 9: wrong that.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, I know how you feel, mister. It's okay, it's okay,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: it's okay, it's okay. I my heart goes out to you.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: My heart goes out to you, mister Legate. It's okay.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: We got five minutes and I'm gonna wrap it up
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: with our mister Legate, my heart goes out to you.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: My heart goes out to you. I know how you
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: feeling to lose a child and you're incarcerated. I don't
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: know that feeling, but I know how it feels to
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: lose a child. And my heart goes out to you.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: And I'm sending you a great big hug all the
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: way over there. And I will personally give you a
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: hug when you walk up out of them gates, free
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: in vindicated of this me, Angela and Cordnell be there
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: to welcome you.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 55:00
  Speaker 9: Listen, listen, the gate will appreciate you for being hire man.
• 55:03
  Speaker 9: You know we understand your situation. We're doing that. Thank
• 55:05
  Speaker 9: the power said light on this situation. You know, like
• 55:09
  Speaker 9: I said, you was chosen by us for a reason.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: Mister m You know a powerful story and.
• 55:13
  Speaker 9: You can't tell us to the man number one. So,
• 55:15
  Speaker 9: because we only have a short period of time, Uh,
• 55:18
  Speaker 9: if y'all can get us the information to the podcasters
• 55:21
  Speaker 9: who conducted it, I mean the post swim My Bad
• 55:24
  Speaker 9: the documentary, who get the documentary, please provide that information
• 55:28
  Speaker 9: to us because listen the gate what's the Cornell Drummer
• 55:32
  Speaker 9: and of the Thomas Smith and missus NTT Johnson, we
• 55:35
  Speaker 9: are thought to fit to these people personally and have
• 55:38
  Speaker 9: your case reopen, Sir, this case is got open with it.
• 55:42
  Speaker 9: Don't matter how long it is gonna take me, We're
• 55:44
  Speaker 9: gonna do it. I'm come, San Antonio, so I know
• 55:47
  Speaker 9: exactly what you're going through because it happened to me,
• 55:50
  Speaker 9: and I'm not gonna never stop until we don't wrap
• 55:53
  Speaker 9: this whole process, believe me.
• 55:55
  Speaker 8: Son.
• 55:56
  Speaker 9: So with that, man said, I would like to turn
• 55:57
  Speaker 9: it over to my co host because she had to
• 55:59
  Speaker 9: throw that because a period of time.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, so I would like to I would like to
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: thank you guys for joining us for another episode of
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Let's Talk About It. You guys heard from mister Legate
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: three times. He been on here and he shared his story.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: He never waivered, he all waits, spoke his truth. Please
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: go look at the documentary and you will see what
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: we see. You would hear what we heard. I paid
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: just a little snippet for you guys. Please, we have
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: men and women that has been wrongfully convicted of crimes
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: that they have and that they didn't do. When is
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: enough enough? When are we going to stand up and
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: use our voice and speak out against injustice? We are
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: any black season don't forget to get out there and vote,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: but we vote for our judges and stuff during mid time.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: So you guys, come on, let's make right this wrong right. So,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: if it's anyone that's out there that can help mister Legate,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: please get in contact with us and we will put
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: you in contact with him. He lost too much, too much,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: and again, enough is enough. Remember stay hydrated, drink your water.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: If you don't have nothing good to say, don't say
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: it at all. Just drink your water. I love you
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: and you guys, have a blessed rest of the week
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: and see you next month.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: James Legate, at the time, was a person who repossessed cars.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: James Legate was in the area of the Player's Bar
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: in Edny Garcia's office because he was trying to repossess
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: a car belonging to Maryland Maddox.
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: He knew Maryland.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Maddox had worked for a home healthcare agency, but he
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: didn't know whose home health care agency. That day he
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: had gone to players, and while he was in the bar,
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: he'd started thinking about the home healthcare which was next door,
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: and he started thinking about going over there to inquire
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: about whether Maryland Maddox had ever worked there.
• 58:44
  Speaker 10: James Legate in nineteen ninety eight was a small lot
• 58:48
  Speaker 10: car salesman,