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Trekcast 427: The Search for Spock · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Speaker 1: Track the Galaxy's most Unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 2: There he is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to Trek Cast Everybody, the Galaxy's most unpredictable
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  Speaker 1: Star Trek podcast, Scott and my host is uh Daniel Rayes.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 2: Oh you know it's yeah after Easter, that's rights.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I am ready to get spring started. Yeah. First,
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  Speaker 1: that first motorcycle ride yesterday, but the first one that
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  Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't because I was doing maintenance transporting
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  Speaker 1: the bike, so just.
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  Speaker 3: Right, the first one for yeah, it's it was a
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  Speaker 3: little chili but uh yeah, you know, yeah, I loved it.
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  Speaker 1: Not the environmental controls on the on the motorcycle don't
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  Speaker 1: work too well, so.
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  Speaker 2: I would imagine not Yeah, you're just kind of out there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What kind of bike you got.
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  Speaker 1: I've got an O nine Harley Road King nice. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so big bike.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool.
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  Speaker 1: Man. My wife loves riding on the back and we
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  Speaker 1: love going for rides and stuff. So we got some
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  Speaker 1: little trips planned this year. So yeah, yeah, I got
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  Speaker 1: friends who ride and they they love it.
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  Speaker 2: I got one buddy he does. He'll go down the
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  Speaker 2: entire highway in California right against the coast. Yeah, does
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  Speaker 2: that every year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually a part of our retirement plan. I
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  Speaker 1: want to buy a fifth will trailer, uh with a
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  Speaker 1: with a toy hauler in the back, and just go
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  Speaker 1: all over the country and kind of use it as
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  Speaker 1: a main base as we kind of use the motorcycles
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  Speaker 1: a satellite to visit different places. Yeah, p H is
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  Speaker 1: on the list.
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  Speaker 2: Nice. Nice, Yeah, it's very it's very pretty over there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've heard, I've heard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how's your week been?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot of you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: stuff going on. But you know, uh, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, just ready for the spring. Work's going good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, my son's home from from college. I
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  Speaker 1: was a big giant mess in the garage and he's
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  Speaker 1: over for the summer. So yeah, everything's going good about you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh good? Good so far.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see.
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  Speaker 2: Work has been kind of crazy, but but good. I
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  Speaker 2: just finished the latest draft of my screenplay, so I've
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  Speaker 2: gotten people to read it and tell me how terrible
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  Speaker 2: it is.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're just a horrible writer, obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Well you want to get the flaws right.
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  Speaker 1: You're trying to that's true. So yeah, that's true. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you win everything and and get an A on everything,
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  Speaker 1: then you're doing something wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I get well, like you just said, you
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  Speaker 1: know the flaws and everything that's that's part of the process.
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  Speaker 1: So you're perfect everything, you know right out the gate.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the struggle is part of the process, so.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right, So yeah, I know, I'm excited about that.
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  Speaker 2: And then my uh my big contest is in a
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  Speaker 2: couple of months, so I'm in good pace to to
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  Speaker 2: be done in time.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome, Awesome, I'm excited about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, oh, is.
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  Speaker 1: There is there a way that we're ever gonna be
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  Speaker 1: able to see or read or watch or anything that
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  Speaker 1: that you got going on? Is it?
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to Yeah. So, because of my television background,
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  Speaker 2: I've been thinking about should I try to sell this
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  Speaker 2: script or should I try to produce it? Okay, producing
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  Speaker 2: it means I got to go find the funding though,
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  Speaker 2: So that's right. So I don't I don't know where
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  Speaker 2: I land on that right now, because you could be
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  Speaker 2: spending years looking for funding.
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  Speaker 1: Right you could use your vast knowledge of producing this
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  Speaker 1: show and.
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  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, it's not quite the same, but no, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if we have any listeners out there
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  Speaker 2: that know about this kind of stuff, hit me up.
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  Speaker 1: I have questions or filthy rich listeners that just want
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  Speaker 1: to fund right, Yeah, sure, you know, you never know,
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  Speaker 1: might be that one guy that, like you know, normally
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  Speaker 1: is just sitting away, like in the back of one
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  Speaker 1: of his nine hundred rooms and yeah, week and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, this is the week right check out?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Why yeah, yeah, I put it out. We'll see
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  Speaker 2: what happens. But sure, yeah, all right, Well we should
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  Speaker 2: probably get to the news. I got a few news
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  Speaker 2: stories for.
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  Speaker 1: Us, so good because I haven't been really on the
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  Speaker 1: internet this week, so I don't know if anything's what's
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  Speaker 1: going on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to it. Let's get to it.
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  Speaker 1: Star trek News.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So our first news story comes to us
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  Speaker 2: from trekmovie dot com, and we have an official premiere
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  Speaker 2: date for Strangers World season three kind of so it
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  Speaker 2: will be premiering at the Tribeca Film Festival in June
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  Speaker 2: June fourteenth, to be the specific. So they will have
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  Speaker 2: a presentation of the season three premiere. But then what right,
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  Speaker 2: Like that doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna be on Paramount
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  Speaker 2: Plus that day. Or the next day. It's just that
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  Speaker 2: like doing it at a film festival.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then on paramount plus.
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  Speaker 2: They haven't but that's not to say they couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: No, But I wonder why they're doing it that way.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that it's it's a strange strategy to me,
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  Speaker 2: Like I wonder, Yeah, I don't know. Like to me,
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  Speaker 2: it seems like they want to get more of the
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  Speaker 2: casual fans or generate new fans. So that's why they Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so they would put it in a you know, at
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  Speaker 2: not a like at a sci fi convention, right or
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  Speaker 2: not like at a Star Trek convention, but at a
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  Speaker 2: at a just a typical film festival. But the other
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  Speaker 2: thing too, is like it's a TV show, not a
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  Speaker 2: film at a film festival, right, you know, That's that's
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  Speaker 2: not what people are focused on. So the Travica Film
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  Speaker 2: Festival is more about independent films and and getting right. No. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like I don't understand the logic. Hopefully they have a plan,
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  Speaker 2: but I I don't.
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  Speaker 1: You know, It's it's like when I was in the military,
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  Speaker 1: It's like there was this this chaos going around and
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  Speaker 1: you're like, either either the leadership is completely insane or
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  Speaker 1: there's this like super smart plan that's all gonna coalesce,
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  Speaker 1: and right, right, nine times out of ten it was
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  Speaker 1: the leadership was crazy. But yeah, every once in a
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  Speaker 1: while it was like, well, we don't know what's going on,
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  Speaker 1: and they have a plan, and it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we just have to we just have to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: have faith in their plan. So I guess we have
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  Speaker 1: no choice but to have faith in their plan.
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  Speaker 2: So right, right, So I guess we'll see. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so for now, June fourteenth, Trebecka Film Festival. If you
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  Speaker 2: want to go see Strange to the Worlds first, that's
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  Speaker 2: that's the place to do and get.
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  Speaker 1: Yourself where at somewhere in California, No, because in New York? So,
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  Speaker 1: oh New York. Okay, yeah, so Dan's got a chance.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Dan's got a chance. Yeah, all right, I will
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  Speaker 1: I'll call him after the show and make sure he's
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  Speaker 1: got travel arrangements.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, don Green, I'm late to join in the stream.
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  Speaker 2: But have you guys seen the Strange Worlds SpongeBob paramount
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  Speaker 2: advert We have not even brought that up yet.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, have you not seen this thing? I have?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen it.
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  Speaker 1: I think I shared it on on the Facebook page.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so that is making the rounds too as well.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have it in the news segment, but yes,
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  Speaker 2: there's a new advertisement going around right now. It's Strange
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  Speaker 2: New Worlds and SpongeBob crossover. You see a munch of
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  Speaker 2: the SpongeBob characters with the Strange World characters on the
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  Speaker 2: enterprise and it's all to promote Paramount, plus the idea being.
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  Speaker 1: Like range, all right.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely strange. It's definitely strange. I'm not a sponge
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  Speaker 2: so to me it.
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  Speaker 1: Was I'm not either. Yeah, my kids are. I mean
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  Speaker 1: they like everybody is aware of it, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I've ever seen a single, like standalone episode. You know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get the the idea behind it. It's a
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  Speaker 2: fun idea. Yeah, it's it's what they it's more of
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  Speaker 2: what they did with the remember the the Paramount and
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  Speaker 2: and Patrick Stewart and he like throw that kid because
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  Speaker 2: he had a football.
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  Speaker 1: Shaped head, right the Mountain Para mount Mountain. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of franchise, more.
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  Speaker 2: Of those goofy adverts.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's cool, and I think they're going for
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  Speaker 1: I think the the the demographic is the real is
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  Speaker 1: like the younger Star Trek fan. Yeah, twenties and thirties,
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  Speaker 1: you know who maybe grew up on SpongeBob. I guess right,
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  Speaker 1: but it's fine. Yeah, when I was a Star Trek fan,
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  Speaker 1: right right, you know, don't mean to sound like old
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  Speaker 1: man Star Trek fan, but.
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  Speaker 2: Right, well man yells like clouds. Yeah yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So our next news story comes to us from screen
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  Speaker 2: rants and Star Trek's quirk names the best actor on
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  Speaker 2: Deep Space nine, and according to this person, they think
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  Speaker 2: he's right. So in a recent interview, Armand Shimerman was
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  Speaker 2: talking about who he thought the best actor on Deep
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  Speaker 2: Space nine was, who do you think he thought was
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  Speaker 2: the best actor?
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  Speaker 1: Call Meani, then call Meani?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I wonder who the chat thinks he thought
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  Speaker 2: was the best.
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  Speaker 1: Actor, because cal Meenie did subtlety the best.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's a good call. You know, I would
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  Speaker 2: have guessed, having not read this, or you know, before
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  Speaker 2: I read it, My guess was was what's his name,
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  Speaker 2: Andy Robinson Garrick. Yeah, that would have been my guess. Sure, sure,
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  Speaker 2: but both of us would have been wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he says that he thought the breast actoring was
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  Speaker 2: Roc Loton.
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  Speaker 4: Oh wow, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He He goes on to say, you have to remember
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  Speaker 2: he was a kid back then, and the subtlety that
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  Speaker 2: Jake did in his or Sirac did in his acting
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  Speaker 2: is right there. It's very it's very subtle, but it's there.
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  Speaker 2: And for a kid to pull that off and to
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  Speaker 2: have that kind of instincts is pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, I'll give I'll give Sarrac credit seasons one through three,
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  Speaker 1: uh huh, and maybe in the season four. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, like a lot of child actors, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he didn't have subtlety. I use that
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  Speaker 1: word again in in the later seasons. Yeah, I you know,
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  Speaker 1: I I I thought he was an okay actor. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he was underutilized at all. Yeah, there was
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  Speaker 1: some performances, you know, the the the Visitor. I thought
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  Speaker 1: he did a good job the pain and the sorrow
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  Speaker 1: and the sadness and the loss. I did think in
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  Speaker 1: that episode he did a fantastic job. But but for
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  Speaker 1: the rest, you know, he didn't really when he was
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  Speaker 1: trying to portray a reporter, he didn't to me, he
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  Speaker 1: didn't bring any you know, he didn't make me think
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  Speaker 1: that he was passionate about being a reporter, you know, see, and.
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  Speaker 2: I think about, like, where's scheming the whole way through, right.
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  Speaker 1: Face, something in the Great River or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he did a great
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  Speaker 2: job in that episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, you know prode and yeah, yeah, I agree,
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  Speaker 1: but uh yeah, for the rest of the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the one, two and three, or for you know, especially
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  Speaker 1: during the Dominion War when he was trying to pretend
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  Speaker 1: to be an adult when he was just barely adult
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  Speaker 1: and you know, being a reporter, and you know, his
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was if it was the character,
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  Speaker 1: if his character was that naive, then he I thought
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  Speaker 1: he did a good job, but I don't think his
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  Speaker 1: character was written as that naive. And so I think
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  Speaker 1: Sarac portrayed him as really really naive or Saraq was naive, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: or was portraying him as naive when he wasn't supposed
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  Speaker 1: to do. I'm not exactly sure what I'm trying to say,
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  Speaker 1: but something always didn't hit me right with his performance.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. We do have a comment from Instagram
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  Speaker 2: Michael z a lot disease wants to know if there's
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  Speaker 2: anything to share about any more Star Trek films. Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 2: we don't know, and we we had mentioned on the
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  Speaker 2: show a few weeks ago when when Paramount was at CinemaCon,
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  Speaker 2: they did not even mention anything about a new Star
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  Speaker 2: Trek movie. So the prospects do not look good so far.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I keep seeing online. I keep seeing the
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  Speaker 1: little message boards and online rumors about Star Trek four.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's open, man, everybody's open.
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  Speaker 1: I wish they would shoot that dog right in the head. What, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: there's not that. I love dogs. Maybe I should have
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  Speaker 1: used a different example. I wish I would. I wish
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  Speaker 1: they would have shot that kid. Let's see, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: shoot myself in the foot, are I?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: I wish they would shoot that beast in its head
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  Speaker 1: and put out of its misery for good.
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  Speaker 2: Tell us it's gonna be only a TV yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Or just like Star Trek, like JJ Abrams, Star Trek,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Pine, you know. I. I just wish they would
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  Speaker 1: all get plastic surgery so they would not look anything
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  Speaker 1: like their characters again, and we could we could bury it,
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  Speaker 1: put it to rest.
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  Speaker 2: When he gives this, Dan's gonna show up at Scott's
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  Speaker 2: front door for that dog's helmet.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, this is a cartoon dog that doesn't exist. This
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  Speaker 1: is not.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Let's get to our next story. Our next
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  Speaker 2: story comes to us from Newsweek, and Robert Briccardo teases
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  Speaker 2: major changes to his character in Star Trek Starfleet Academy. So,
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  Speaker 2: Robert Ricardo is returning in Starfleet Academy to play the doctor,
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  Speaker 2: same character he played on Voyager, and he is saying
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  Speaker 2: that there's gonna be some major changes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be the same hologram.
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  Speaker 2: I mean one, as he's older, right, they're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: probably not gonna deage him.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So they're gonna they're gonna do that thing where
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  Speaker 1: they say I decided that, since I want to be
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  Speaker 1: in front of my colleagues and co workers, I did
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  Speaker 1: not want to appear younger, So I wanted to appear
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  Speaker 1: a contemporary to them. So voila. That's that's how he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna explain it away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh for sure, it'll be something like that. He
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  Speaker 2: says that he still has his humor, but there's a
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  Speaker 2: there's more depth to him, which I don't know. Man,
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  Speaker 2: there was a lot of depth on Voyager with that character.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot like like I said, I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: a rewatch a Voyager right now. I'm halfway through yeah five,
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  Speaker 1: And I've been watching the Delta Flyers too, so I've
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  Speaker 1: been listening, Yeah, Garrett Wong and my good friend Robbie McNeil, right, yeah, Robbie, yes, Robbie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm thinking about the last characters. They told us like,
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  Speaker 2: oh there is there's some changes. And I think of
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  Speaker 2: Seven of Nine in Picard, how different she was from Voyager.
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  Speaker 2: They had warnis ahead of time that seven was gonna
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  Speaker 2: be different. So I'm wondering if not like that kind
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  Speaker 2: of a shift, but that that much of a difference
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  Speaker 2: in the docors.
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  Speaker 1: I bought the change for Son of nine, okay, because
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  Speaker 1: it had been so long, you know, twenty twenty five years,
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  Speaker 1: so obviously she was going to change and grow and
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  Speaker 1: you know, become more human and things like that. I'll
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  Speaker 1: probably buy the change for the doctor, you know, hopefully
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  Speaker 1: he's got a name, you know, other than Joe.
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  Speaker 2: But jo Mama.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, in one of the seat in one of
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  Speaker 1: the episodes in I believe it was endgame when they
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  Speaker 1: go to go to the future. Uh, he comes out
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  Speaker 1: and says he's his name is Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Right right right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. In fact, I just saw the episode Timeless, which
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  Speaker 1: is my favorite Voyager episode. That's the one where Voyager
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  Speaker 1: crash lands on the ice planet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, awaiting games. We're still moving forward with the Hogwarts
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  Speaker 2: in space.
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  Speaker 1: Huh yes, apparently.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. I can't wait for the digital Owls to show up.
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  Speaker 2: You know that you've you've been accepted as sharp leat Academy.
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  Speaker 1: Right right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Oh boy? So yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 1: I I'm gonna watch it. I mean, anything's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: better than Section thirty one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean probably probably, but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And there's no word about when this is coming out, right.
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  Speaker 2: Not yet, not yet, so hopefully at some point this year,
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  Speaker 2: you know, beginning of next two.
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  Speaker 1: No's okay, all right?
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  Speaker 2: And then our last news story saw this this morning.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I would share because it looks like fun.
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  Speaker 2: So there is the right now going on in in
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  Speaker 2: La area. Is the Universal fan Fest, right, Yeah, have
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  Speaker 2: these big, big sets that people can walk through it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a takeoff of the Universal Horror Film Nights. So
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  Speaker 2: now they're doing like a fan fest night for other
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  Speaker 2: franchises that aren't horror, and Star Trek is part of it.
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  Speaker 2: So what I found was on this article from Universal
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  Speaker 2: Parks News today they have all of the Star Trek
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  Speaker 2: merch and it's price point. Okay, so I thought it
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  Speaker 2: would be fun. Would you buy it or not? All right,
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  Speaker 2: since we got the prices, so here we go. Let's
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  Speaker 2: start with the first one. We have the Star Trek magnet.
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  Speaker 2: So there it is a little delta magnet communicator. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it looks like a communicator. You can see in that
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  Speaker 2: person can So it's not that big and it's fifteen dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Would you buy that?
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  Speaker 5: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. It looks nice, I think so. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: In fridge magnet, why not sure magnet?
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  Speaker 1: It looks kind of three d ish. I mean it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't look like just like a flat you know, printed,
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  Speaker 1: It looks like it's uh looks like it's.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's some depth to it.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it looks to be it looks like a combatge.
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  Speaker 1: It looks to be about the size of a combadge,
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  Speaker 1: and it's designed to be a refrigerator magnet.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's definitely supposed to be an impulse by Like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to pay for a shirt, but I'll
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  Speaker 2: get this for fifteen bucks.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, sure, yeah, so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm down for that. I think you also have
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  Speaker 2: the visitor's magnet that's also fifteen dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's okay. That is the same badge that the
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  Speaker 1: Card had to wear when he visited Starfleet Academy in correct. Yeah, yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know if ye're a big card fan. Yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 1: just a momentum fifteen bucks. Yeah all right.
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  Speaker 2: I think I would prefer the Delta shield more than
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  Speaker 2: this one, but whatever.
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  Speaker 1: More people probably would. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a blue T shirt for thirty bucks.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a Starkley Academy logo T shirt.
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  Speaker 2: Right, It's got like the triangle on it that you know,
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  Speaker 2: rounded edge triangle is perfect Academy x ASTERA and then yeah,
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  Speaker 2: head Astra whatever, it's not ad Astra, it's a.
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  Speaker 1: It's got the Golden gate Bridge in the background.
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  Speaker 2: With the star yea to San Francisco, and then it's
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  Speaker 2: got like the year in Roman numerals. So thirty bucks for.
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  Speaker 1: A T shirt.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, that's not bad for for a film, for a
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  Speaker 2: theme park souvenir. Thirty bucks for a TV. Yep, that's yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 2: The wind breaker jacket, this is seventy.
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  Speaker 1: Dollars that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay for a windbreaker, right, it's a it's it
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  Speaker 2: for those listening, it's kind of what a beige light
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  Speaker 2: gray kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of yeah, beige gray.
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  Speaker 2: You almost cannot tell the star trek except for the
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  Speaker 2: small amount of writing on like one side. It's got
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  Speaker 2: like a star trek image of a I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I can't really tell what that is, but it kind
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  Speaker 1: of looks like a borg.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's it's.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, full el Car's emblem.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's underneath that it might.
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  Speaker 1: Say something about what what the what the thing? The
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  Speaker 1: event's going on?
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe there's something on the back. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: If you're in need, in need of a wind breaker
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, I see. You got to keep in mind,
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm used to going to Harley stores, so T
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  Speaker 1: shirts forty five dollars and this wind breaker would easily
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: be one hundred.
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  Speaker 2: So okay, a deal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not getting sticker shock here.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but would you get that? Is that something you
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  Speaker 2: would wear.
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  Speaker 1: If I was in if I was in the market,
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  Speaker 1: if I wore wind breakers, which I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't either.
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  Speaker 1: I could see myself getting a seventy dollars wind breaker. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but if I was like, that's the only thing I'm getting,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna splurge. You know, I'm in the mood I've
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  Speaker 1: got I've got that in my discretionary funds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, okay, Oh, let's see next one. A
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  Speaker 2: twenty five dollars journal. It's one of these like Moleskin
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  Speaker 2: type journals. It's got a really big enterprise on the front.
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  Speaker 2: It says go boldly. There's some color to it, some
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  Speaker 2: red and blue and black imagery. It's got one of
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  Speaker 2: those barely fits in your hand, Yeah, barely fits in
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  Speaker 2: your hand, that big. It's twenty five bucks for a journal, though.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems that seems that's hot, steep.
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  Speaker 2: That even at fifteen I think that would be hot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna say, that looks like a fifteen
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  Speaker 1: dollars item. Now if it was, if it was a
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  Speaker 1: Discovery one, I would buy it and then I would.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Send it of course, of course. Yeah. But yeah, I
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: mean if.
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  Speaker 1: It was a Michael Burnham one, I'd probably spend forty
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  Speaker 1: dollars on it express ship it to Dan, you want.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: You want Michael Burnham's Crying Journal. That's right, yes, yeah,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna pass on this twenty five dollars journal. Let's see.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I just you're moving the cursor around
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and I'm looking at it on screen, and I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was a bug this.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, sorry sorry. Yeah. So we have this
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  Speaker 2: chocolate specimen from It's a SETI eel but chocolate, solid chocolate.
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  Speaker 2: They don't have a price tag on it.
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  Speaker 1: Don't care what it cost, I'll buy it.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that looks delicious. Now we've got the Chateau Picard. Oh,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I can click on these great Chateau of card water bottle.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: That's kind of yeah, it's thirty bucks. It's one of those,
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  Speaker 2: uh like a metal bottles. Yeah yeah, it doesn't look
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  Speaker 2: that big. I'm gonna guess maybe twenty ounces at most.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, something like that, something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, thirty bucks. I mean that's right about
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  Speaker 2: what those things cost sop yep, yeah, yeah, that's fine.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Quarks glasses there, it is, it's a Quarks glass. It's
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  Speaker 2: twenty bucks. It's just like a beer pint glass.
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  Speaker 1: That's pricey.
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  Speaker 2: Sure for that? Yeah, for that, because I would.
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  Speaker 1: Like a set of four, and I would like to
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  Speaker 1: pay forty dollars four fifty bucks for a set of
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  Speaker 1: four because one glass, you know whatever, I've got a
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  Speaker 1: quarks like a small quarks glass.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I've got one too somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Ah. A friend of mine, Amy, she had one of
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  Speaker 1: those monthly subscriptions where they send you like a cool
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  Speaker 1: box every month. Oh yeah yeah, And one of the
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: months was a Star Trek box, and so she's like, oh,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I know a guy that likes Star Treks. So she
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: gave me this box and it had like a had
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: a T shirt and like a T shirt with the
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  Speaker 1: Enterprise d on it that I wear on the show sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: It had it had a quarks are coasters, like four
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  Speaker 1: uh rubber coasters. It had a like a little shot
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  Speaker 1: glass from a little small little glasses, a quarts bar
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  Speaker 1: on It.
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  Speaker 2: Was really yeah, all right, and then is that okay? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this will be the last one the triple keychain. This
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  Speaker 2: thing is eighteen dollars.
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  Speaker 1: That's a bit. Yeah, that's a ten dollars right all
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  Speaker 1: day long?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, eighteen seems kind of high for it.
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  Speaker 2: It is just a giant trouble with the keychain on it.
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  Speaker 2: There's also a key uh like a little I don't
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: know tag that's got a Kirk on it, like kind
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  Speaker 2: of cartoon. Yeah, yeahs as would buy.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know what, We've got a couple of
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  Speaker 1: We've got like one regular size trible and my wife's
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  Speaker 1: got a couple of keychain size tribles start star Fleet
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  Speaker 1: International uh sells them. They adopt quote unquote adopt tribles
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  Speaker 1: out and you pay like three dollars for them, and
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  Speaker 1: that that goes towards the Starfleet International. So we've got
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  Speaker 1: a couple of those.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I would use this for.
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  Speaker 1: There there's a coffee with your chicken sandwich.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, there's there's a there's a travel not
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  Speaker 2: a hack, but like a like a tip, right, And
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  Speaker 2: one of the things is put key chains on your luggage,
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  Speaker 2: on you know, the stuff you check in. So then
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: that way when they're coming out of the out of
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  Speaker 2: the shoot at the at the airport, you can instantly
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  Speaker 2: pick yours out and you're not like, oh, is that
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  Speaker 2: one mine? Is that one mine? But you know by
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  Speaker 2: the key chains, right, the ones you right, Yes, it's
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  Speaker 2: easy to spot.
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  Speaker 1: That would just that would just be awkward if you
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: you and like another Star Trek fan awkwardly grab for
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  Speaker 1: the same bag.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but at least if you're not dealing with so
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: many people, it's just one of the right. Yeah. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so like I I've got a couple of luggage tags
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  Speaker 2: online that I can easily spot my stuff. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the trouble would be a fun one for for something
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of luggage, you want to see airport confusion having
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  Speaker 1: try having fifty soldiers looking for the exact same Duffel bag.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god on the carousel. That's kind of pandemonium and
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  Speaker 1: everybody's like all that. Everybody's like, oh, I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: different because I'm gonna put reflective tape around the Duffel bag.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody everybody does.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't they just write their names real big on
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: the double bag?
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but everybody's name is written in black marker, the
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: exact the exact same, right.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, fair enough, fair enough? All right. Well that's
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: that's some of the stuff. There's more on there. I'll
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: put the whole list in the show notes. People want
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: to check it out. But uh, yeah, I think they
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: got some cool stuff in that. At that fan night's
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  Speaker 2: you know, it looks like fun to me.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, curarrently in the chat, my mom said, hi.
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  Speaker 2: Oh hello him mom. Mom. All right, well let's uh,
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  Speaker 2: let's get to our main topic.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 4: Fun will now come out, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So our main topic is we are reviewing Star
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Trek three, the Search for Spock, since we are continuing
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  Speaker 2: our review of the cos films.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes he is movie.
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  Speaker 2: Yes he has risen. Spock has returned to us after
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: dying in uh rathacn. This film is from nineteen eighty four,
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  Speaker 2: directed by Harvey or Harve Bennett. So yeah, that's pretty quick, right,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: because Ratha con was eighty two.
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  Speaker 1: This was written by uh, this was directed by Leonard in.
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  Speaker 2: Boy Oh was it okay? Oh that's right? Yeah sorry,
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  Speaker 2: produced by.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Writers the right harb Benett wrote it.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, Leonardamoyd directed it.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, what time to get serious? But the glasses, but.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: On the glasses serious time, serious time. Um, so let's
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: see what what happened in this film.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Basically we're dealing with the aftermath of Scott of Scott's
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Spock's death. Right, everyone seems depressed. Uh. The enterprise is
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: is back at Space talk and and Kirk finds out
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: that he he's been the Enterprise is basically done. It's
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: gonna be mothballed, and and yes, and Kirk wants to
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: go back to the Genesis planet. What was the reasoning
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I forgot?
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: What was?
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Well, he got a visit from Sarah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, that's right, he got a visit from Sarah.
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  Speaker 1: And Sarah's like, uh, you know, I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: to you. Uh, why why did you abandon Spock? I mean,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: you know, Sarah's got it in his head that he
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: knows what happened. He knows that Spock, you know, sacrificed
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  Speaker 1: himself with the ship. But he's like, I know that
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: that you were the last one to talk to him.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I know he would have mind melded with you and
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: given you his contra. Why why did you abandon him?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: And Kirk's like, I don't know what the hell you're
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: talking about. And then Sarah's like, you know, bull crap.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Let me, you know, come here and let me mind
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: meld with you. And that's when Sarah realizes. Oh, and
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: then Sarah tells him some he he must have mind
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: melded with somebody and that's when he checks out the
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: security footage, realizes that he mind melded with McCoy, and
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: that's when Sarah said, you have to go find Spock
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: if there's a spot to be found, and bring him
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: and McCoy back to Vulkan, right. So that's what starts.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: That's why he had there, and that's see at first
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I was confused because I'm like, well, why doesn't he just,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you know, like Rent taken Uber to with McCoy and
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: just taking Uber to Balkan. No, he can't do that.
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  Speaker 1: He's got to get to He's got to get to
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  Speaker 1: the to the Genesis planet, to the Matara sector.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Right, And then the Genesis planet has been kind of
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: like cording off because there's still so yeah, even if yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: even if you charted something, you couldn't go.
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  Speaker 1: There right because McCoy tried to right right, McCoy, Spock
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: tried to right right.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: And just it wasn't working. And then we also have
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: got our villain kind of lurking Christopher. Oh God, I
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: forget Lloyd.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: He was he was Krug and christ he was just
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: as much Christopher Lloyd as he was Krug. And I
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: didn't have a problem with it at all. Yes, that
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: was the evil Klingon Doc Brown, and I loved every
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: second of it.
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  Speaker 2: It was great.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Every lie that came out of his bout.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Gold awaiting game says in this movie, do we get
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: our first actual visual representation of a targ?
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I think so that was That was in my notes. Yeah,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I think it was the first time we see a
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: targ We've seen other dog like things that weren't Clingon
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: targs in like occasional series, you know, where they took
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: like a Pomeranian and flew to a piece of paper
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: mache on his forehead. But yeah, put a horn on it,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: and I thought this was nasty. I love the targ.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, the targ I did a little deep dive.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: The targ is something that the Klingons they have for pets.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: They hunt, they eat, you know, heart of targ and
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: stuff like this. So it's a it's a very versatile
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Klingon animal.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: That's right, That's right. So yeah, so, uh, the Klingons
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: are interested in the Genesis device because they think it
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: can be a weapon of war and they so they're
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: looking for it, right, even as the the Klingons have
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: this ship that can shoot well cloaked, right, that's the
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: big scary thing about it.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: No. No, In fact, Kirk surmises that it can't shoot
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: until cloaked. That doesn't call uh the undiscovered country. Okay, okay,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: and people in the chat uh google me right or
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: google me wrong? But yeah, right, So yeah, they're looking
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: for it, and they've also got they there's a there's
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: a like a mercenary or some kind of cargo ship
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: that rendezvous's with the Klingon Bird of Prey and they've
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: got some information on Genesis. They're the ones that have
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: like the classified information, that have smuggled it somehow. And
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: there's a Klingon representative on board that I don't remember
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: her name, but she's she's got a cleingon boob window.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I remember that. So she's like she's telling her her
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: her master, Doc Brown, you know you're gonna find it
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: very useful. And he goes, so you've seen it, and
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: she's like, yes, I have, my lord. He's like unfortunate
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: and she's like I understand, and then he goes and
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: destroys the the Mercenary ship right like that's she just
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and he says, good luck, my love. Yes, why didn't
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: she just beam her aboard and then destroy the ship,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: like because it's ortun of it. Yeah, I just don't understand.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Klingons that that must be yeah.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So he's got logicas in this movie, just a few.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: So he's got the uh information on Genesis, and he
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: wants to go uh he wants more information on Genesis, right,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: and so we cut back to uh, we cut back
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: to Starfleet and Kirk is trying to to get a ship.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: He's like, well, when is the Enterprise gonna be ready?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: When can we take that out? I want to take
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you know, Spock's brain that's inside of McCoy, And the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Admiralty basically shuts them down, says, nope, it's the ships
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: inside of a McCoy. That's inside of a McCoy and
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: so uh and so they he tells Kirk no, and
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Kirk's like, all right, cool and uh he's like. The
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: rest of the crew is like, so what do they say?
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: He said no, we're therefore going anyways, So they hatch
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: a plan. They go and kidnap but doctor McCoy and
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: they hatch a plan to uh, to steal the Enterprise
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: and and that's when we have you know, that's that
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: those are the series of events that kicks off. Basically,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: everybody is going to get court martialed at the end
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: of the next movie. But so they all the crew
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: basically get on the Enterprise except for Ahura, and they
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: steal the Enterprise. Is a cool you know space doc scene,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and then they they're able to escape the Space Doc
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and escape the Excelsior the excels Here because a Scotty
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: sabotaged the the excels Here and they had off. Yeah,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: they head off with the you know, with the uh
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: spotified McCoy and rest of the crew except for a
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: horror to the Genesis planet.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, uh spock spirit is in McCoy, but his
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: body is on Genesis, so.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: They need They don't know that at the time, and
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: they don't.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Know that that's.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Now, while all this is going on, we've got an
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: oh birth class starship that has doctor David Marcus uh
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: uh uh discount Kirsty Alley and right, I actually like
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the savoc. I I like I like her better than
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Christy Ally's uh savoc. Most people don't agree with me,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: but I like the way she was portrayed in this.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: So they're they're on this od birth class ship. I
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: think it's called the Grisome, and they are actually studying
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: uh the Genesis planet right, And so they they detect
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: they detect a life form. They detect Spock's burial uh
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: photon torpedo case. They beam down and uh they know
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: there's a life form there. It's it's David and and
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Lieutenant Savag. They beamed down and they find Spock, a
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: young version of Spock, like a seven year old version
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: of Spock.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: But they also find like little bugs near the near
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: the uh near the coffin, right, and and they say, like, whoa,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: this is like life beginning to evolve, which is kind
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: of weird.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so it's like the Genesis. It's like the
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Genesis effect is rapidly aging things or rapidly making making
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: things evolve. So by the time they get there, these
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: tiny microbes have evolved into you know, like lollipop size
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: nummy delicious looking little bite sized morsels. And then by
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: the time the Klingons get there, it's a giant like snake,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: evil slug thing. So yeah, I'm sorry, I've been Did
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: you want me to continue with the synopsis or you
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: want no?
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: No, no, that's that's fine. Yeah, you're doing good.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So it's just freshened my mind. And so unfortunately,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: at the same time that the gris Christ is there,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: the Bird of Prey shows up and Krug says, uh,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: you know, target their engines, and so the Bird of
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Prey fire is on the the the Grissom and destroys it.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: So now it's uh, it's it's the three of them
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: on the planet stranded. It's young Spock, Savog and David
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Marcus and now the crew from the Bird of Prey
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: beamed down and they end up finding Spock and about
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: this time, uh, the Enterprise shows up and yeah, so
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: let's talk about I guess we can talk about Spock
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: and Saboc and and what's going on there? What? What? What?
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: What was your take on everything was going on?
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: So it was weird to me that that's I mean,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I get it. Spock didn't have his consciousness, so he
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: didn't know who he was. He was just like a
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: blank slate on the planet, right, So so that made sense.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: It was an interesting way to go about it. I
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: think you could have gone a little bit more in
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: depth about how how this was an unexpected uh uh,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: development in the Genesis.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Device, right, right, I don't think they That's the other
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: thing they talked about too.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's real quick, right, it's nothing they really
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: linger on.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Right. They talked about that David had to use proto matter,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: which and that's why the planets falling apart.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So like the fact that they just kind of
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: mention it and rushed through that, like they're not as
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: impressed with it. So okay, I guess, but it seems
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: like something that should have been a bigger deal.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Well, Savig kind of calls David out, like this is
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: all your fault because you used a shortcut, used cheat,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: you know, yes, And he's like, that was the only
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: way we could do it. Is it was the only
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: thing that would solve certain issues. But that because of
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: because he used that.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: See, here's the thing too, They did not use the
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Genesis device as it was intended, right, They didn't use
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it on a planet. This this planet was birth from
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: the Nebula as far as I can tell.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Was it like an asteroid at and was it.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Though it blew up from it? It was inside the
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: ship when it blew up. It was inside the Brando
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: class ship. Yeah, right, I mean, con blew it up
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: there and it didn't hit like a moon or a
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: like a lifeless rock the way it was supposed to.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if that had anything to do
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: with it.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: But A waiting game has a question. Since Spock goes
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: through pon Far on this planet and Savag helps him out,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: does that mean Spock might have a kid somewhere.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I wanted to bring this up. I wanted to bring
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: this up because that's something that's floating around on the internet.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Uh So, Vulcans go through pond Far once every seven
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: years after they reach adulthood. Now what's adulthood on for
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: a Vulcan. Yeah, my guess is puberty. So I'm guessing
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: there's a time jumper on IMDb. It says Spock at seven,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Spock at fourteen, Spocket seventeen, So Spock could be going
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: through Ponfar like fourteen or seventeen. You know. Yeah, I
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: don't know what the Vulcan age of consent is, but
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I've also heard that if you go through Ponfar and
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: you don't mate, you die. So you're Savag and you
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: know that Spock is let's say he's eighteen. Yeah, and
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: he's going through ponfar and you know that if he
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't mate, he will die. You have a duty and
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: an obligation to You have a choice either let Spock
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: die or mate with him. Right, we never see we
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: never really see Savag after this a little bit in
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Star Trek four. Yeah, so it stands to reason that
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: there could be a little Spock baby running around somewhere.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: There could be, and based on the timeline, that Spock
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: baby could very well exist in the Star Trek Picard timeline.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: So maybe they'll do something with that someday.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Waiting made or I will die. That's extremely convenient. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that's a line that would have worked at
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: the Star Trek Experience quarks Bar. I'm sure people have
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: tried it. I'm sure people have tried it.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: So, so let's see. Kirk is on the Enterprise, the
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Enterprise and the Klingon Bird of Prey. Now, the Doc
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Brown says the Enterprise out guns US ten to one,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: so the Enterprise is much bigger warship. However, the Enterprise
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: limped out of space, Doc to begin with. So the
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Enterprise is down the Klingon Bird of Praise. They've they've
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: had a little battle. So they're both sort of you know,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: sitting dead in the water, and the Klingons have taken Spock,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Marcus and Savog prisoner and to to sort of say,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: you know, and and Krug Commander Krug, Doc Brown tells Kirk,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I want everything you have on Genesis. I want the
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Genesis device, I want the torpedo. I want everything. And
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: if you don't, then I'm going to kill people. And
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: to demonstrate his resolve, he tells his Klingon posse down
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: on the on the ground on the planet, kill one
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: of them. And so one of the Klingons breaks out
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: a detang my my my favorite Stark weapon, and just
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: before he's about to stab one of them, uh, David
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: turns around and fights him and uh In in the
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: ensuing chaos, he ends up getting stabbed and killed. Then
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: that's when that's when Savag Kirkirk. Yeah, so he goes
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: David is dead, and that's when Kirk, you know, he
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: does that scene where he kind of trips backward and
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: falls down on the floor and it's it's gut wrenching.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, he just found out his his he just
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: found out he had a son, and now he just
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: found out his son has been killed and that you know,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: it's not like Kirk loved Klingons before, but he's not.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: He's really not.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: A fan now, no not.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: So that's that's when they realize that, Okay, so the
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: planet's about ready to be destroyed because it's you know,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: David used proto matter. The the Klingons have the upper hand.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: The Enterprise is kind of out for the count. The
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: the commanders using the two remaining hostages as leverage either
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: give me what I want, prepare to be boarded, or
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I'm going to kill your crew. And so Kirk comes
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: up with a plan. You know, he's got to get
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: over his grief in about sixty seconds, right, and he
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: comes up with a plan. And so what he does
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: is he tells the Klingon crew, you can beam over,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: you can have the ship, you can have everything, just
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: save you know, everybody on the surface. And so they
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: beam over the boarding party. The Klingon boarding party beams
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: over to the Enterprise, and that when Kirk and company,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Kirk beams to the planet.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Right they had set they had set the self destruct.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Right, they had set the self destruct. Kirk and crew
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: beamed to the planet while allowing the Klingons to beam
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: to the Enterprise. They have set the self destruct and
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: they get to the bridge just as the computers counting
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: down five four, three two one, and that's when the
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: original Enterprise, the one from the original series and Star
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Trek one two in this movie, you see it explode.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: And the crew of the Enterprise are on Genesis and
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: they watch it streak across the sky, destroying itself. And
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a huge Original series fan. I'm
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: not a huge fan of Star Trek the motion picture,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: you know, but it's one, like, okay, waiting game to
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: set this moment is one of all time best Kirk moments. Yeah,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: uh it's it. This Enterprise doesn't mean a whole lot
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: to me, but I felt something. And he has this line.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: He looked, you know, he's next to uh McCoy and
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: he says, my god, bones, what have I done? And
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: McCoy says, what you had to do, what you always do,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: turned death into a fighting chance to live. Man. Every
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: time I hear that lie, it gets me right here,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: right here in the old blood Pumper, you know. And
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: uh so the Enterprise is destroyed. Kruge Krue Commander Krug
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: beams down, Uh, he beams the crew of the Enterprise
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: up to the Klingon ship as as you know, as prisoners.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: And so it's just, uh, it's just Spock. No, it's
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: just it's just Spock. Uh. Krug and Kirk and the
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: and the planet is is blowing up and his earthquakes
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: and everything, and he says, hey, you should bleam up
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: you know the kid too, And Krug is like no,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: and Kirk's like why and Krug's like, because you wish it,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: because I'm a dick and I don't like you. So
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Kirk and the commander have a fight and uh, Krug
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: falls off a cliff and his holding God and Kirk
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: as kind of a weird He's like, give me your hand.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: He's gonna save him, and Krug grabs him by the
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: ankle and finally Kirk's just like he's had enough of him,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: and that's what he says, is he boots him right
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: in the face. He's like, I Boom, have had Boom
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: enough of you. And so he grabs Bock. He grabs
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: a Klingon communicator and he remembers the phrase, the Klingon
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: phrase that Krug had used to beam the crew back up,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: and so he operates a communicator says the same phrase
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: and and the KR Klingon transporter operator buys it, beat
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: him up, and they take the Klingons by surprise, and
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: do you want to talk about what happened there too? Like, no, No,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of talking.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: It's been like a week and a half since I
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: seen the movies.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, all right. So so now the
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: planet's about to explode, and now the crew have overtaken
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: the I think there's like one Klingon that's left, uh
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: John Larkett, but yeah, it's actually John. Yeah, it plays
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: that click and Kirk's like help us or die, and
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: and John like I do not deserve to live, and
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Kirk's like fine, I'll kill you later. Yeah. So they're
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to operate this click got
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: ship this burt of prey, and they managed to escape
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: just in the nick of time. They fly to Vulcan
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: and they and then they yeah, they asked the High Priestess,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: we want to put his brain back in his head
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: and she's like all right, cool. She does like a
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: double Klingon or a double Vulcan yea mine, and and
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: the mind meld works and Spock is like, all right,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: here you go and yeah, and at first, yeah, this.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Spock's even like he's not quite himself yet, but you
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: can see that he's going to be.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not it's not instant. It's not instant.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. He thanks Kirk for for helping him
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: kind of in his way, he doesn't like.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: He looks at him and he goes, uh, you can
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: kind of see the memory coming back to him. And
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: he looks at me and goes ship out of danger. He's like, yeah,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: you should saved the ship. And then he starts to
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: walk away and he turns back around and he goes, Jim,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: your name is Jim. And so you can tell that
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: he's gonna he sort of got.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: It's coming back to him. Yeah, it's coming back to So.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: So now it's the whole crew. Ahora has rejoined everybody
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: on Vulcan. It's the whole crew, right, and they've got
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: the thing on Bird of Prey and that sets everything
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: up for the for the final of what most people
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: consider a trilogy of movies.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. So, according to Rotten Tomatoes, this
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: got a seventy eight percent with the critics, seventy percent
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: with the U with the audience, it is considered one
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: of not the worst, but you know, it's not considered
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: top tier. I'm surprised by the scores. Honestly.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually really liked this film. Yeah, okay, I
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I did not. I did not lump this in with
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: the uh, you know, the odd numbered movies being being bad. Yeah,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: this is nowhere, this is not This is not Star
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Trek five. Yeah, this is nowhere near as bad as
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Star Trek five, right or Start Trek one. It's yeah,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's a I thought it was
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: a good film. I thought, okay, that that's the note
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: that I had taken. Yeah, you know what I really
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: liked about this movie.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: What's the pacing.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I love pacing of this movie because even like in
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Star Trek one, obviously you're like, okay, what time is it?
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: How long is this gonna be? Even in Star Trek two,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: there is some long lulls between action or between important
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: dialogue or plot points in this movie. I didn't I
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: don't remember looking at my phone, like I just watched
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: the movie and and I you know, sometimes when you
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: rewatch a movie for the umpteenth time, you're like, Oh,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: when is this part gonna happen? I didn't feel myself
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: thinking that. I thought the pacing of this movie was really,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: really good, and I think that's a testament to Lennon
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Nimoy directing.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you did a good job directing. I
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: think the movie, for what it is, I think I
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: think is fine. I did get in my head what
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: I would have done, and now I'm I'm like, I
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: want to see that.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about that.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so so my you know, my idea of
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: watching this movie. I think you had an opportunity that
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: that you could not that they didn't take that I
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: think would have not necessarily better, but different.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I think what you could have done is that the
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Klingons pick up Spock on the planet first, right, Like,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: that's your that's maybe your opening. And and Spock is
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: just a child, but he's he's with the Klingons, and
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: the Klingons don't know what to make of him, right,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: And and they're they're trying to figure out what is
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: this child doing on this planet by himself? It appears
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: to be out of nowhere. They they find the the
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Federation pod and they're like what what is this? Is
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: this like some sort of experiment, And they're trying to
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: get out of Spock, like are you a weapon? What
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: is going on?
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Why are on this isolated planet? Are they doing this?
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: They're true, they're just trying to figure it out, right,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: But what they notice is Spock is growing exponentially, right, Sure,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: he's raising and so now they're like, oh, if he's
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: if he's growing this fast, maybe they've got a weapon
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: and we can turn warriors much faster.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So like they're interested in Spock, right, So they're
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: trying to get him to explain everything, but but he
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: will not because he doesn't know. He's you know, he's
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: just a blank slate, right, So you you accelerate the timeline,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: like maybe a month later, he's now a full of
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: grown adult, right, And because he's Vulcan, but he's raised Klingons.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: He is a brutal tactician. He's just logical. He is
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: not you know, he is not compassionate. He's just obsessed
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: with winning and that's all he wants to do, right,
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: So you do everything else with sarh, Hey, where my son?
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: What's going on. And meanwhile, there is word that the
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Klingons have this new general who's just a brutally efficient killer,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: and he's out there and he's searching for something from
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: the Federation. He wants the Genesis device, right, they don't
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: know what it is yet, but that's what he wants.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: And so you do this thing with Kirk. You know,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Kirk still thinks, oh, I gotta go save my friend, right.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: He doesn't know what, he doesn't care about anything. He
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: hears about the problem and he's like, yeah, good luck
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: with that. I gotta go find my friend, right, because
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: that's kind of where he's at. And so they give
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: him a ship. They don't give him the best ship,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: but they're like, here you go find your friend. We
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: got we got too much else to deal with, near nonsense.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: So here you go.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: So he goes with his crew and he goes looking
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: for it and they run into they calling on bird
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: or prey and they get attacked and it is just
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: not only do they take the spock running, this bird
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: of prey take down Kirk, but he can anticipate what
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Kirk is about to do. And Kirk is like, what
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: the hell, Like, this guy knows my tricks what right,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: And then that's when he comes on the viewer and
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: you see Spock, but you see Spock in the in
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: the Klingon, you know, uh yeah, yeah yeah, And he's
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: the leader, and he's just brutally efficient and and he's like,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: you will tell us about the device, you will explain
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: to us what's going on. We want it like just
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: just being a Klingon, right, And so it is basically
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Kirk versus Spock. And and you have what's better, right,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: instinct and experience versus just brutal logic. Right, and you
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: have that dynamic, right you even do or Spock ends
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: up killing David, So now it's it's it's Kirk is like,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: oh my god, do I save my friend or do
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: I kill the guy who killed my son? Right? Because
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: you still have spots contra within Bones. His friend is there, right,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: but but he dude killed his son, right, So like
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: what do you do?
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah?
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: And uh. And so eventually gets down to a big
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: fight and Kirk is going to kill Spot because that's it.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: He's had it, you know, He's about to kill him,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: and Bones is like, please don't, but he says it
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: like in the in the Spock syllas of doing it right,
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: and he remembers his friend. They go to Vulcan, they
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: save him, they reunite him, but now Kirk can never
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: see Spock the same way because their their friendship is damaged. Right,
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: And and the thing, here's the other thing. Spock remembers
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: everything he did. It's not like you just went away. Yeah, okay,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: that's what I would have done.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you what my thoughts were as you
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: were describing. I stopped picturing William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy, ok,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: And I started picturing Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, because.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: In my mind, you just wrote Star Trek four in
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: my mind, or you just wrote Star Trek four and five. Yeah,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: you know. Uh, like at the very beginning of the movie,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Spock dies somehow, uh, and then the rest of the
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: picture is exactly as you described. With the JJ crew,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's to me, that's you know, but yeah,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: you have that idea would have brought so much more everything.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: I like. I like it slightly, yeah, I mean, but yeah,
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: I think it's good too.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: So I'm curious to hear whatever any thoughts in the comments.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm curious. Face will be like, no, that's terrible.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Why would you do such a thing.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Exactly? So, yeah, go to the facebook page, the Facebook
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: group trek cast and put in, uh, what you think
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: about uh Daniel's idea and what your ideas would have been.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: And we want to see some memes too. I want
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: to see some of the memes.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Oh for sure, for sure. Yeah yeah, so yeah, so
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: that was my idea. And then when that didn't happen,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: now I'm like, damn it.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: There are a ton of trivia items in the I
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: m dB. I just wanted to go over a couple
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: of them real quick.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Oh waiting game. I think it was genius. I wish
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: that movie existed.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, me too. The uh we all know
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: that Christy Ally didn't come back. Uh there's a long
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: winded explanation. Basically, they couldn't.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: Afford her, right, she.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Thought her Her crap was pretty pretty good. I didn't
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: notice this at first, but in the opening credits there
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: is a six second long pause between William Shadner and DeForest.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Kelly's name mm hm, when normally there would only be
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: a one second pause like for the rest of the names.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: There was a one second pause. That was because that
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: space would have been where Leonard Nimoy's name was, And
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: I thought that was a really cool kind of thing
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: that they did. Yeah. Yeah, so we talked again about
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Robin Curtis, who portrayed Savag. I liked her. I thought
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: she did a good job. She'll she'll have a bit
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: part in the next movie, and then she'll also be
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: in a couple of fan made productions.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Oh that's right. Yeah, yeah, she was in a few
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: of them.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So good film. A lot of Like I said,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch a lot of the special if. I
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: didn't have time to watch a lot of the special features,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: and there are a ton of special feeds and behind
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: the scenes for this movie, especially their decision to destroy
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: the enterprise, you know, because that was kind of a
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: big deal.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, that was a big deal back then.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was the original you know, that's the
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: original enterprise from their first from the original series five
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: year mission. So yeah, yeah, good film. I liked it.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I thought it was all right, But then
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I came up with mine, and then I was pissed.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: So I like yours better. Yeah, in my head canon,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: that is going to be like an alternate quantum universe
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: version of what happened.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: A waiting game. They recast Savag in the Voyage Home.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Right, say, it's the same actress as this movie.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the same one.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: So she has a little bit part where she she
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: has a little conversation with Captain Kirk in Voyage Home
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: about uh, telling Kirk how David died and how brave
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: he was right, but didn't mention anything about being pregnant. No, no,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: which in my head, Cannon, she definitely is pregnant.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that Spock's baby mama.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah, all right, all right, well let's uh, oh
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: you know what I just thought, Yeah, what's that?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the timeline in the Ages.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: But if if he ever had a bit part in
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: like a Legacy or something like that, m Adam Nimoy
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: could trey Spock's son in like, I think the Ages
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: would line up about right at like Vulcan being half
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: you know, he'd be about a one hundred and ten,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: you know, Adam Nimoy being don't all sixty fifty five whatever, sixty.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: I think the Ages would line up about right if
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: he were to have like a cameo as Savog and
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: spocks son. Oh that's interesting, So I'll give you that
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: one for free. Paramount.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: There you go, I mean, yeah, yeah, that would be good.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: I guess you could do that in strange worlds.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Oh sure, sure, yeah, if they were in the like
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: the future or something, because you.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Know, to get cigarettes on riise I never came home.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, Star Trek does have a long, proud tradition
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: of bad dads.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. I mean in Fox Defense, the
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: home world where uh, Savog got pregnant on doesn't exist anymore.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: So right right, fair enough? All right, well we should
• 1:04:47
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• 1:04:52
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• 1:04:56
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• 1:04:59
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• 1:05:03
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• 1:05:08
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• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: So right on, and then, uh, jazzmus has already clicked
• 1:06:05
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• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, let me bring me in there he is. Oh,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: he's ready to go barely. So what's up, Chazz Bizz?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: Well, I saw this. I didn't see the X up
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: and then I saw the stream yard. That's funny.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: That's funny. So did you watch the movie or remember
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: I watched it.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: Two weeks ago? So okay, yeah, it's one of those
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: things like now what happened? Oh yeah, Christopher Lloyd grabs
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: a penis monster and squeezes.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the first thing on the planet.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: He sees the monster and just like.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: I love the fact that he looks at it, picks
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: it up, it tries to strangle him. He like squeezes
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: it and kills it and drops it and makes a
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: point to call his ship and say nothing going on here. Yep,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Like that is the most klingon thing that he could
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: have done.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, did you like the movie?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: I think it's not my favorite one.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: But I still liked it.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's my favor but it's okay.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: It's one of those things if they had a bigger
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: budget at that bar sing at the beginning, because it
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: looked like, you know, I had wood paneling and it
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: looked like everything nineteen eighty three year for when.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: You didn't like the grid line two the air like
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: airplane dog fight video game.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's such a cheesy bar.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: But when they you know, it reminded me of a
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: like like a canteena from Star Wars.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're never trying to replicate it, but they poorly
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: executed it. Yeah, you know for a movie like really cheap. Yeah,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: you guys gotta spent a little bit more time on
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: this scene, right, just to clean it up. Make god
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: a cool like, make more aliens.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Well, and one of the in that scene, I was confused.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: They could have cast an actor that played the security
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: officer that caught McCoy that didn't look exactly like the
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: admiral that Kirk talked to.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they had the same like inflections and
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: tones and and things like that, and I'm like, that
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: could have been his brother. Yeah right, you know.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: And then when they stealed the ship, you know, of
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: course like that part as you have this brand new
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: ship that's supposed to outpace him and then it's Scotty
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: Stills the parts on it.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that was confusing, you know, that Space Doc.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: I did enjoy the Space Doc. Yeah, when they were
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: coming into not when they were being still, not when
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: they were stealing the Enterprise, but when they were coming
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: into and everybody saw all the battle damage, you know,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: And there was a cameo by grace Ley Whitney as
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Yeoman Rand. She's she's the one that looks at it
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: and just goes, wow, look at all that damage. So
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: she had a little cameo there. But yeah, I was
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: a little confused about, Uh, the Captain of the Excelsior
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: goes if he tries to get a warp get away
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: at warp he's in for a surprise, like.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: They had Transford and you know that they could go.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Like did he say that because he was because his
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: the order before that was like lock onto a tractor being.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: I thought he was going to be.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: Surprised because they mentioned the transworp thing, right, is that
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: what you're talking about?
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: They did mention the transworp thing.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows what that means?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they never really brought it back, right, and then
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: you hear the.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: What I've read is that Elskier itself was a great success,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: like the most us will Starship Design and Starfleet history.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: Transwarp part just it was unreliable, Yeah, until Voyager used
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: it to go to warp ten.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Right. Well maybe it's like the maybe it's it's like
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: the spore drive. Right, it just wasn't a technology they
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: could use, so they mothballed it, right Yeah.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe they made lizard babies and then they're that's right,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: we can't do that.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: That's why that'shile does lizards know what's up?
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah? It was like we just screwed up with the genesis.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: We can't have lizard babies, now, that's right.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the the Excelsior coming to a halt, you know,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: the it said the computer said maximum transwort velocity in
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: five four three two one, and then you hear the
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: engine sputter, like.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: Now Kirk had a beautiful perm on here.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: Yes he did.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: It had a little puff to it.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: He had definitely gone to the style.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: As he used to say, on fleet, fleet, no, on fleet.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: So as you guys were talking, I was thinking about, like,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: oh man, what you would have done with the sequel
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: in my in my theoretical film, right, And then I
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: thought like, well, so you would have to have Spock
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: and Kirk trying to re establish the relationship in the
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: follow up film, right because right now Kirk doesn't trust
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: him at all, right, or or doesn't want anything to
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: do with him. But also, how do you forgive your
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: friend when he basically has no emotions after killing your son,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: right right, that's when.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: You do the voyage and yeah, get together, Yeah, you
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: give wacking adventure. Yeah, and that's his way out.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: Kind of form that bond again, right, right, because are
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: in peril, They're going to lose Earth. And then you
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: gotta say.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: The whales, right, you gotta say the whales and be
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: on LDS.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, all right, but it was you know,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: this one was fun for for thirty and plus. It's
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: was a Leonard new moist. It was his first directorial debut,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: was this, I think?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: So? Yeah, he had directed like.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: TV shows or something.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like Broadway stuff or whatever that Broadway. But
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: still what was.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: The box office on this?
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: That?
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Oh? I don't know, because I know made.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: Like one hundred something hundred and thirty million worldwide.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: I'm pulling up ox Office Mojo right now. Domestically made
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: seventy six million worldwide, it made eighty thousand. Yeah, that's
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: that's what it says.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: It might not have had a well, that doesn't make sense.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: It was leonardnymoy's directorial debut. He had done stage and television,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: including an episode of TJ. Hooker. Yeah, every buddy, William Shatner,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of Klingon, a lot of Klingon dialogue in this. Oh,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: Mark o'krand actually took He was the one that wrote
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: the Klingon English Dictionary. He took dialogue from previous movies
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: and TV shows, most of which was made up by
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: James Dowan and extrapulated from that and kind of created
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: a language and language laws and rules for the Klingon language.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: So I just looked it up. Uh, the Searchers's Block
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: had a box office, had a budget of seventeen million,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: and a box office of seventy six point four million,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: so made money. Definitely made money.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: Well, it just shows you that they didn't have to
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: spend thirteen million dollars on an actor.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Right, Well, yeah, you didn't back then neither, so yeah.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's kind of like when you look at
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: Section thirty one movie, how much they they spent on
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: that was outrageous.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, and your cost basis are different nowadays.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, everything.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: But the thing is we're spending about one hundred twenty
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: million on a TV you know, right, give me a movie.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: That's a lot of money.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: An episode of Discovery was like I think eight million
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: in episode yeah, something like that. Yeah.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's what they're saying is the budgets have
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: gotten out of hand lately.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: And you need to go back tising money to recap it, right,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: relying on subscription base, Well you.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: You kind of are now like Paramount Plus has got
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: an ad level, right, Yeah, watch shows but all you're
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: doing is recreating TV again.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: So any news on the sky Dance buy out.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: No, there, We're still just waiting on lawsuits to finish through.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: I know that they've got their they're working with the
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Trump administration right now. Apparently there was a lawsuit with
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: with sixty Minutes that they're trying to settle. So once
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: that's settled, that should pave the way for the sale.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: But even then the sale is being blocked by another
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: lawsuit with Skuydance is trying to prove that I forget,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: the other company does not have a legitimate bid. So
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: it's it's just a nightmare all around.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that the Trump lawsuit with this, it's it's affecting.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: Like I was reading a little bit about this because
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: I want I'm trying to figure out when is Paramount
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: going to get you know, get their asks together.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: It won't be this year. I don't think.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: No, it's not gonna be this year. But the Trump
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: administration is, Yeah, the sixty minute lawsuit, they're kind of
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: waiting to see what happens with that because there's been
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: more lawsuits because the Trump administration is basically saying any
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: news organization or outlet that says anything mean about me.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: You're not allowed to do that anymore. Right, I'm not
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: going to say anything more about that, but it's affecting
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: the paramount sale and issue, and so I've been watching
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: that closely because I you know, I I've got some
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: strong feelings I won't go into right now about the
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: paramount sale and how it's gonna affect the future of
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: Star Trek, because I think the future of Star Trek
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: is is is on thin ice right now.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: It feels that way.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: I think we are. I think we're this close, very
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: close to the Star Trek franchising disappearing, maybe not forever,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: but for a long time because of the current climate
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: in in in entertainment and and the sale of these
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: large companies.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: Which is funny because you can argue like, well, you've
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: got strange worlds and you've got Starfleet Academy coming, but
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: it's becoming they're not doing what the fans want because
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: like even now, like the fans keep seeing legacy, right yeah,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: and that's not happening.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: So it looks like these companies are kind of playing
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: it safe. They're they're they're not taking big risks.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: Like bold moves but they're not going with in any direction.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: It sounds like they're being they're they're like a committee's
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: taking over.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: Well, it's it's it's the idea of in your quest
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: for the elusive casual fan, you're carrying away at your.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Hardcore fans, right right, exactly, And if.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: You don't have that committee, Yeah.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: The committee's coming in, going I don't understand the Star
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Trek stuff. Let's let's broaden it, let's generalize it, let's
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: not you know, Yeah, that's what I'm keeping an eye on.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: So we'll bee you know, they're not showing like how
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: many new fans have they added in the past decade
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: pretty much. Yeah, this is the younger generations, the Zennials
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: and the millennials. Those are the ones you get to
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: tap into.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay, so I will make this analogy. But
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: basically there's a very similar thing in pro wrestling. There
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: for a long time, the WWE, you know, still is
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: the biggest game in town, right, But the fans were
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: not happy. The hardcore fans were not happy with it,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: so much so that a competitor organization got together and
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: created a whole new company called aew AW was backed
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: by another billionaire, and that thing is now the second
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: largest promotion in the world, and it's not close, it's
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: not close to WWE, but the fact that they went
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: from zero to second biggest in the world in just
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: a few years shows that there was a you know,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: desire for something different and now all the hardcorees are
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: basically with aw Similarly, when Star Trek came out, yeah, well,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: when Star Trek rebooted it and we got discovering all
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: that we had the Orville, and the Orville filled that
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: spot for a lot of people, right, Yeah, it was
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: really more of what we actually wanted. And people still
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: are like, hey, when's the Orbville gonna come out? What's
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: going on with it? And then and then we got
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: a little taste of it with Picard season three, and
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: that has had the fans like latched on, like, give
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: us legacy. What's going on? We want that legacy And
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: and so it's just enough to keep it like people
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: want it, but if they don't do it right, they're
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna shoot their own fan base on the foot.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: So yeah, and then people are gonna forget because what
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: that was that two or three years.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: Ago that it's like two year two almost half years.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's it's been a while.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: It's been a while, and so if you.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: Let's say you do Legacy, you're gonna be about five
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: years out.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know because Terry Mdallas is doing the.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: When it takes time to build those sets and write
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: those scripts, like you don't just turn that on.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: High the actors, Yeah, contract them and just ask I
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: had to do it.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well it was a whole like we can get
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: a whole nother show on this, but well.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: You know, and like I said, AI, maybe they'll do it,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, maybe in the future you'll have somebody
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: make their own shows with a.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: I maybe within the next ten years, I will be
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: able to watch ar Trek Day Space nine, Season eight,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: episode one, and it'll look just like it is.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: Every Yeah, it's like every few months there's something new
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: with it. Yeah, and you're just like kind of blown away.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like, well.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: If what I really like to see is like to
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: let them let us with the AI, don't put any
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: restrictions on it for personal use. That way, I can
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: watch that episode and I can watch Daniel's Star Trek
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: Uh number three. I want to see Star Trek three,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: the Search for Spock Daniel, Yeah, because that would be
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: and I think within ten years, I should, you know,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: I within five years, I should be able to do it. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: I think one day, one day soon, Daniel me you,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Dan Chas Biz we're going to do a review on
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: the the Reyes version of Star Trek three.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it will be like T Bear or I
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: would take the meeting to go right for the Yeah,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: I definitely take that meeting. So all right, well we
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: should probably wrap it up. We've been going pretty long today.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so next time.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: You get the I guarantee you Dan will be here
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: next week because it's.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: The yeah, the good ones, and somehow.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: Dan will show up on the even numbers.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: We look forward to seeing Dan and so hit us
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• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: We want to hear you, yeah, absolutely, yeah, we'd love
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: to hear what you guys got to say. And yeah,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: we'll be back next time with the voyage home, the
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: one with the whales.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, see you guys later, everybody.
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