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Shia Myths of Fatima Al-Zahra (Ft Sayed Ali Radhawi) · After Maghrib 🌙

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Smila Rahmanda, Rahim Adamala, A Jorana, A Jorakum, Salaam
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Alaikum. And welcome back to another
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episode on the Aftermath podcast where we hope by now you are
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media platforms as well as our Apple and Spotify platforms.
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Now today it's a special day for us.
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It's a it's a conversation that resonates with with you in
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particular being a Shia Muslim and it's one inshallah that we
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will learn and benefit from. And just like any other podcast
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we have before when it comes to those that mean the most to us
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and these are the family members of Al Allah, Muhammad Sallallahu
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Alaihi Alaihi Wasallam. We will ensure that we will have
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a conversation surrounding their lives, and this week we're going
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to focus on Lady Fatwa Zahra, the beloved daughter of Rasul
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Allah, Ali. Abdul Salati was Salaam because
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we are mourning and remembering and honouring her, because it is
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the third narration of the Knights of Fatima, the sorrowful
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Knights of Fatima. And you know, Ahmed, before I
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begin today's conversation, you know, we've, you know, shall we
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say, mourned the first narration, the 2nd narration and
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now approaching third narration. For many of us, we've been my
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journalist. For many of us, we haven't been
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to my journalist. I really want to ask since we
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have a scholar today and before we get to him today, I do want
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to mention why is it important that we have such a conversation
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on lay departments that are Salaam Wallahi?
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I lay her on a platform that's not an imaginus.
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What's the difference for this? Because before the podcast I
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heard you have a small conversation with our guests and
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I thought, you know, it would be nice for you to mention it and
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bring it up here. And condolences to everyone at
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home on the on the demise of our our Our Lady of Heaven Saviour
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to the side of alameen saida fattam zahara slam allahi Ali ha
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saida Ali. To be honest, this is probably a
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question which our special guests would be able to answer
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more more eloquently than I would.
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But just to add in terms of the the perspective from the
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podcast, I think it's important for us to rekindle our faith
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institutionally and to remind inshallah ourselves and also the
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communities that you know at the end of the day, Majalis is the
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backbone of our communities. It has been since the first, the
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first Majalis that was given after the battle of Karbala 61
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after Hijra and until this day the the majalis of the
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Azerbaijan Muslim have has spread across the world.
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You now see in every language in every corner of the globe and
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now Majalis takes different forms.
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It could be impersonal of course online as well.
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And I think the role for a podcast like this is is to
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Charlotte. Try and connect with people like
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us. You know everyday people,
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community members, mosque visiting youth who are on a
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journey and yearning inshallah to to reconnect with the last
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banter Allah through the other beta name of slam and the Quran.
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And the best way to do that is to really understand and to
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grasp our key events to a full extent.
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So the best way inshallah we can do this is to have an honest
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conversation. Some people will connect with
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the majlis and some people prefer to have a conversation
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but in all cases you need people of of knowledge and hand Allah.
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Today we have someone who has a wealth of knowledge.
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The irony is he also shares the name with you, Said.
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So it's going to be a very difficult podcast for me when I
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also introduce alongside, Said Ali, the esteemed scholar.
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Said Ali. To both of you, Olam and Adan
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Abeka VI offer my condolences, of course, to Imam Zaman Ali
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Saddam and all lovers of Lady Fatima for her martyrdom.
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I said saying that saying that it's lovely to have you in town
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and thank you very much for joining us.
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We understand your schedule is very busy while you're here in
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London so we're very grateful for your time and and the energy
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you took to be here. Saying that, I mean, this is of
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course a tragic period, and these days many of us are
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attending majalis and we're trying to understand more about,
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say, the Fatima Zahra Islam. But where?
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Where do we kind of begin when understanding such a woman of
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such great stature? Listen, I think Fatima plays
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very important and vitam role in in Shiasim because you can see
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people go and visit Imam Al Hussein even from other faiths,
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but you don't see people from other faiths, even other sects
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pay attention to Lady Fatima and we have to ask why?
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Why no one is observing Lady Fatima as she deserves.
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What's happened after the Prophet passed away?
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What's happened in the Ummah in the nation of our Prophet,
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Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam of that not only
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we don't know the status of Lady Fatima but also we don't know
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even the place of her grave. So when we go to our narrations
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and Ahlbait we see that Ahlbait Halihu Salam mentioned that no
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one can know and comprehend the status of Lady Fatima and that's
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why I lost Subhanahu talent named her Fatima.
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So all almighty God's creation cannot reach and understand and
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comprehend the status of Lady Fatima for an 18 years old lady
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who passed away days after the Prophet passed away.
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And we as she I believe that she was killed brutally by some
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hypocrites so-called some of our prophet's companions.
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And of course this is not that odd to mention because when you
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go through Quran and read Quranic verses, you can see too
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many verses of Allah's book talk about hypocrites, hypocrisy and
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hypocrites. So something is wrong in the
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nation. That's why Allah Subhanawatallah
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not only talks about hypocrisy and hypocrites but also warns
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his prophet that Hamullah Adu Fahdaram.
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If you want to see a single enemy that stand in front of
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you, confront you, you have to find that enemy amongst your
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nation, not amongst other religion, not even amongst non
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believers. So.
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He's talking within the Umba. Exactly.
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And that makes Fatima very sensitive and very vital to
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understand because I believe although Shiasm was existing in
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the era of the Prophet, all sects narrate that the prophet
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Sallallahu Salam said several times, Yeah, Ali and Ali, you
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and your followers Shia mean followers, you and your Shia.
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You and your Shia will come in the day of judgment.
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You are you know Shia will end up in heaven, you and your Shia
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this and that, but no one and you up to the martyrdom of Lady
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Father. The border of Shia and Lady
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Fatima actually draw the border of Shia.
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So if you want to be considered Shia, it's not enough for you to
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go and visit Imam Hussain Alisa, not even to cry for him, not
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even to curse his enemy. You have to understand Fatima,
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otherwise probably you won't consider it as Shia.
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So this is how important is Fatima and how we have to pay
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attention to Lady Fatima. Of course we won't be able to
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comprehend her status, but we can understand that what she did
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was magnificent and vital. And if he want to be considered
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as a Shia in the eyes of Ali Bait, you have to have two major
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things on your Saheba Tamal, your book of Deeds.
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You have to have Anwan Saheba to the moment her body of Nabia
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party. It should be written on that
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that you are lover of Alim Nabi and at the end of your Sahifa
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you need the signature of Lady Phantom.
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So you need both of that otherwise you're not fully Shia.
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Say let's say I'm not Shia and I'm hearing this for the first
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time. What significance is there for
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me, not for, not just for this world or for my akhara.
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Because a lot of people, they say, you know, we respect the
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daughter of Rasulullah, Muhammad, Allah, Ali, Ali
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Wasallah. We honor her.
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We remember her, You know, she died natural death.
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There was disagreements, there was a dispute, there was fitna.
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They call us fitna. But what is it in it for me to
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find out the truth? Because I generally believe, and
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this is my opinion, that to find out the truth, that means you
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want to seek the truth. Or if you don't want to find out
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the truth, you just want to go with the crowd.
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Wherever people say this is what you need to follow, you follow.
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We call them sheeps. I don't want to say this on on
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on the podcast, but how? Why is it important not to be a
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sheep as a Muslim, as someone who believes in Laila and Allah,
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as someone who believes in Muhammad Rasul, Allah?
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How is it important to not be a sheep and follow the path of
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Haq? Because for me personally, Far
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Kamiya is Haq and Bartha, there's nothing in this way.
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That's correct. Because Imam Ali Ali Salam the
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commander of the faithful says and actually told Kumail and
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Nasufa Alamo Rabbani civilian Ajad Muhammad, as you said
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sheep. So Alamo Rabbani means a scholar
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who is connected to heaven, So who receives knowledge of Allah
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subhanahu like the prophets of Allah.
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And of course those who get taught by the Prophet and of
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course the rest alike as you mentioned, they are ignorant.
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We can say so we need to know because it's our right and our
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duty to know because it's happened.
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But let's heaven and hell. Should we hate Abu Jahil and Abu
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Lahab or should we love them? We have to find out.
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When we go to Quran we say that Allah Subhanahu Tala mentions
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Abalahab Abalahab was the uncle of the Prophet.
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Yet we say that the Quran said that Tabatiyada Abu lab or
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uncursed Abu lab. So it's not about the
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relationship between the prophet and any of his family rather
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it's about how close they are to the Prophet.
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And this is exactly can be applied on Lady Fatima.
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It's it's not because simply that she was the daughter of the
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Prophet. No, it's much more than that.
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As the Prophet salallahu alaih al Salem said Fatima to ruhea
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leti beine jempei. Fatima is my soul that I carry
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on in my body. So see how the Prophet said
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that? Not my soul, no, no my soul that
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I have in my body. So Fatima is myself.
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So the stance of Fatima is the stance of the Prophet.
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The speech of the Fatima is the speech of the Prophet.
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The political stance of Lady Fatima is the political stance
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of the Prophet. So Fatima is very important and
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Lady Fatima is pretty important. And for other sick or even other
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religion, if someone just he's that the reason religion that
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somebody just came 14 centuries ago and claimed that he's a
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prophet of God and he has a book that was descended by that God.
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And in that book we can find traces that mentions actually
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connect the Holy Quran to other books as well somehow and other
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prophets as well. So if someone just receives that
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very obvious information, he has to go and make a thorough
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research and this is important. So if someone just hears that
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there were a dispute between Lady Fatima and the companions
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of the Prophet, he or she has to go and do a research, otherwise
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they will be fooling themselves. It's like walking in a desert
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that you pretty sure that you might let's say in Australia
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because we have too many dangerous snakes.
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OK, just walking with barefoot in the desert without knowing
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what's what you are stepping upon.
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So it's very dangerous now you can't go and sleep in the
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desert. It's very dangerous.
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You have to know how to live in the desert.
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Otherwise just avoid that and stay safe back and although you
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can find very deadly even snakes in in in your backyard but still
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you're close to the hospital, you know to hospitals and
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etcetera. So you need to do research, you
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need to know what you are doing and you need to understand who
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is hat as you mentioned and who is battle and be with hat and
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and falsify battle. I think a lot of people say a
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lot of people fail to understand that say the Fatimah Sahara
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Islam Alaihi Alaiha is the most oppressed female in Islamic
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history And from her birth said the Fatima Sahara was Umar
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Abihar and alongside her father Holy Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu
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Alaihi wasallam. And at times where, excuse me,
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at times where the Holy Prophet was in danger, he was being
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mocked, he was being exiled, said the Fatima Zahara.
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Despite her young age, 5 years old, six years old, was beside
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him like a rock. And then obviously as she grew
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older, she saw the passing of her mother.
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She grew older. She witnessed her father being
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abused on his deathbed with those who called him delirious.
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On on the calamity of the Thursday, she then had to fight
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for her rights as the daughter of the Holy Prophet Muhammad.
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And of course she witnessed the mockery that the people made of
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Amira Mokminin, Alayhi, Salaam. All of this combined with the
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knowledge of what would happen to her children, Imam Hassan
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Alayhima, Salaam, Sedafatman Zahra, despite all of this still
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stood strong still at such a young and tender age, managed to
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fulfil the role of not just a competent mother, but the most
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complete mother for her children.
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As well as that, she also stood strong as the example of a woman
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who would come forth in society and be able to challenge Bartha,
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like you said said to the the people regardless of status or
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regardless of positions that people had at the time.
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She was not fearful of repercussions and she understood
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that her ultimate destiny was to be beside her father.
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We know of course, from a hadith that she knew she was to to join
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to to to join her father. The only problem I'm Salah.
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Why is there for some people a a lack of focus on Fatima in
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comparison to Muharram and Ashura?
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For example, Fatimi and Majalis maybe are less important or
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excuse me, less well attended. That maybe some people don't
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give it the the precedence and the attention it should deserve.
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Because the most sadaf, Ali Saddam, said that people cannot
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understand the status of Lady Fatim and how important she is.
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And one of the thing that we don't know, as I mentioned is
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the a grave of Lady Fatah. Where is the grave of Lady
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Fatah? When you go to the grave of Mami
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Hussain, the holy Muslim of Mami Hussain, it can touch the grave,
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it can smell the grave. But when you go to Medina, you
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don't know where you, where should you go to make a body
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contact with the grave. It's very important.
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It's it's most a habit. It's recommended to when you go
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to a grave to touch the grave as Jabrab Abdullah Al Ansari did
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When he went and visited the grave of Mami Holy grave of Mami
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Hussain, he he put his hand on the grave and then he shouted
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three times Habibi Hossein Habibi Hossein Habibi Hossein
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and he fainted out. Why when he touched the grave.
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It's something touching the grave sitting on the grave next
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to the grave weeping while you are next to the grave of Lady
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Fatima. Even she is more oppressed than
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Abu Hassan who doesn't have any Haram, who doesn't have any
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shrine, who's his shrine was was demolished OK by enemies of
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Halil Bay Times. Yet we see that Lady Fatima is
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even more oppressed then her son Al Mamel, Hassan Mustafa and the
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rest of her sons Mamzal, Abedim, Al Sadr and Mal Baker.
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Let me tell you something, I believe other sect should do
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more research about Lady Fatima and the problem is why they are
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not paying attention to the Fatima because their books
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boycott Lady Fatima. And this is the problem.
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When you go for instance to Sahih Al Bukhari see only few
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narrations of Lady Fatima but even those few narrations can
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lead you to Huck. And actually once a lady from
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other sector. I had a friend in Melbourne and
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he told me that there is a lady he she's been following your
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some of your speeches and she has some questions about shiasm
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and she'd like to contact you and she did.
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It was 1:00 AM during the month of Ramadan, although it was very
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late. But I told myself that's OK I
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will receive the call and I did and she started to talk nonsense
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how you can bring evidence from our books Sunday books that the
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azadary that you are doing in as Shia is correct.
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I said your approach is totally wrong and but let me ask you a
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few questions. Have you seen this narration in
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your book and say Muslim that the prophet said is part of me
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whoever bothers his bothering me and whoever is bothering me is
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bothering a loss of hand of that.
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She said yes, I've seen that. And I told her then, have you
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seen that the narration and those Saha books, books, very
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authentic books of Swanny's, that historians said that when
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Lady Fatima passed away, she was angry with some of her enemies.
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She said. Yes, I've seen that as well, I
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said. The only step that you have to
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take is to decide. That you whether you want to be
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and resurrect with Lady Fatima the Day of Judgement or with her
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enemy. You can't say that.
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OK, I love the sahaba. All Sahaba when I say sahaba.
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Of course some of the sahaba are excellent.
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We love them all of. But not all sahaba.
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Not everyone who is called Sahaba we can respect.
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This is wrong. You know whoever's not whoever
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is not infallible, we can we can judge him because he's not
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infallible even if he's close to the even if he's the the the
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relative of the for instance, even Abbas.
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Abbas is relative of the Prophet.
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But we can ask why he said that and why he did that because he's
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not infallible. So it's not tribunal actually
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laws that we are following. We are following Hap.
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There's something else. So it's.
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I told her it's it's the step. It's the hard decision that you
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have to make to be either with Lady Fatima or her enemy with
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Imam Ali or his enemy. And you can't just simply say
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that OK, I love Sahaba and I love Ahlube, Talyam, Salaam.
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Just imagine the battle of Jamil just is about to start just now.
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Whether you want to stand with Alibnah Abidal, the brother of
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the Prophet Nefsurasur, Allah, so the Prophet himself or I
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don't know the other party, it's up to you.
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Allah gave you the power to decide, give you the chance to
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decide. It's up to you.
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I cannot decide on your behalf. And then she was convinced and
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she said no, I'd like to be with Fatima Tazara and she became
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Shia because of Lady Fatima. So this is very important.
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And there is a book called To Date I was Guided by the Light
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of Fatima printed book, other sector scholar who was Guided by
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the Light of Lady Fatima. And this is very important is.
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This available in English. I'm not sure.
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I don't think so, but it's very famous book to be honest.
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Yeah, very. You can translate it.
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We'll search it. We'll we'll we'll we'll try and
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if we do find the translation we'll add it to the link that's
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the video. I like the point how you
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mentioned you know how you interacted with that sister who
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accepted the part of the Shaya. And you know it makes me think
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you know if if, if other schools of sex don't say acknowledge
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that the attack took place. But certainly there's lots of
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narrations that point that an attack was about to or somehow,
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you know there was, you know like.
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Attention. Attention where we're going to
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come to the house and things like this.
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Now as a Shia I I have no problem, you know, coming to
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Fatima Majalis year after year after year.
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But as a Shia, I also have Shia friends who told me to stay away
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from Majalis because Fatima Majalis can become sectarian,
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you know, can you know can make you have disagreements with
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your, let's say Sunni brothers and sisters when it comes to our
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shared belief in La Ilaha Muhammad Raswadallah.
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And they say, you know, by us holding these majalis we are
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upsetting them because we are disrespecting those who they
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Revere. Here's my question Sir.
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I'm not saying let's not hold Majalis, but I'm saying is there
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a way where we can disassociate from the killers and those who
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participated in the attack on the House of lady partners Zahra
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without being disrespectful? The 1st example I want to bring
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which I think a lot of people and I think this is a
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misconception that we need to answer here.
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Today on this podcast a lot of people say when you do LAN on
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those who killed, we are cursing and we are being disrespectful.
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Now correct me if I'm wrong, say it.
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LAN is a duan asking Allah Subhanahu Ta'ala to remove his
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mercy from such an individual. Is there any profanity in this?
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Well, listen. Because we do it with the
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killers of Imam Hussain Ali Hassan.
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We do it with the killers of Imam Ali.
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Why is it different when they depart?
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Exactly. But The thing is of course as a
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loss of Hana Matala mentions Quran Hassan.
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Even if you want to debate them, you have to do it in the best
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way, the best way. So we have to look at of course,
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if we are sitting with each others, we can talk and that's
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something else. But of course if we want to tell
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people that come and read and do research about Lady Fanta, we
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have to do it and say it appropriately.
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And that's the thing. So of course we have the right
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to judge people who are not infallible, but as well, we
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respect people's faith and we respect them for what they
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believe. But they have to respect us as
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well. Yeah.
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And we've done this, these, these researches.
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And these researches took us to a conclusion that there was a
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dispute between Lady Fatima and her enemy.
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And and of course we want to stand with Lady Fatima
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Salamullahi Alayah so if even some followers of hallowed Shia
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say that don't attend those Majalah's we can tell them that
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a loss of Hana Matala mentions in Quran that before the prophet
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was sent everyone used to worship idols.
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So can people of Mecca say and they said that and a loss of
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Hana Matala conveyed their saying in Quran.
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Can they stand up and say OK, yeah, no, what you did is wrong
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because everyone used to prostate towards idols, OK?
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And now you you took my boy off me, you took my daughter, you
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took my father, you took my wife.
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OK. And now they are believe they
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are they do believe, they are believing in the oneness of
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Allah Subhanahu. They don't believe in idols.
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So what you did is wrong, and Allah Subhanahu mentions that
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they were in darkness and somebody brought the light to
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them, and some of them recognized the light and
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accepted the light, and some of them rejected the light.
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So bringing the light, is it wrong?
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Of course not, but you have to do it in the right way.
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So probably I disagree with all of your you know saying, but
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yes, the main thing that's correct you have to attend and
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of course speakers and lecturers have to try their best to apply
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teachings in accordance to Quranic teaching.
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I was able to tell that Lady. Listen, you are from other
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sector and I don't have the mood to debate with you.
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It's 1:00 AM already. I'm very tired.
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I just finished my majorities. I'd like to go to bed.
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And your question is an answer I'm not gonna debate with.
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But no, I have to tell her. OK.
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What do you think? It's up to you.
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Do you have this narration? Have you seen this narration?
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If you haven't, I will send it to you.
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And then you can decide. Take your time.
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And I didn't force it. This is the what I believe.
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This is my approach. Just have a think.
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And then she contacted that man and told him that that's it.
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I believe I'm going to stand up. A lot of times they do,
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especially in in this society. I'm sure it's probably the same
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in Australia and in in other parts of the world.
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But in the society we live in here, the like, there's a lot of
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expletives and a lot of antagonism when it comes to
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other schools, especially hardline Salafis who will attack
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the Shia based on our opinions and what our our archaid is and
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what our theology and history says.
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And of course the irony is, is that a lot of the time when
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those who represent our school of thought respond, we don't
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come with the same aggression, the same anger sometimes that
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sometimes certain of those YouTube Dawa scholars will have,
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for example. So we will try and adhere to.
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I say we, I mean those who represent or represent the
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school of thought online. Will will, will, will try and
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speak with more diplomacy and sometimes it goes far and
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sometimes it doesn't. But the aggressive dawa approach
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tends to have an effect and it tends to reel people in.
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You know, those who are on a search for Huck and those who
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are on a search for guidance and what is truthful in history are
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usually pulled in by certain scholars who are more blunt and
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more direct. And you know, compared to maybe
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some of our scholars or not even our scholars, but our youth who
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are debating online who are more passive in their approach
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generally. I want to kind of move on with
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your permission to a slightly different.
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Yeah, that's OK. But I don't call that diplomacy,
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to be honest. It's the teachings of because
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diplomacy. When we call it diplomacy,
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probably people might think that you are trying to manipulate.
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People's minds. So it's not even if they slander
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us, curse us, we're not going to do the same thing.
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Because it's not. The ethical?
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Yeah, yeah, exactly. So if someone doesn't, Sure, in
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my faith, yeah, who will tell them?
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In our Yakumla Allahuddin, either us or you.
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One of us should be on the right path.
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The other one should be the other party.
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So a loss of we don't have any fight, to be honest, with
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anyone. The thing is, we want people to
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open their eyes. I said this is the thing.
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And this is not diplomacy. This is, this is actually our
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strategy. We want people to open their
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eyes. Then they can decide.
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I'm not going to force them. It's up to them like or have a
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Dean. Like or have a Dean.
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I'm not going to, I'm not going to push anyone to accept my
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faith and I'm not going to give anyone the right to push me to
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to to accept his face as well. So I'm Freeman and he's Freeman.
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But I have the right and obligation to at least tell them
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what I think is truth or. Narrative.
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Yes exactly. And their narratives as well.
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The hadith. This is very obvious that I've
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left behind the the book of Allah, Subhana.
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What Allah? And it's up to you.
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If you don't want them, good luck.
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But you can't judge me because I've got wisdom and intellect
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species and I have the right to decide for my destiny.
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You cannot decide on my behalf. That's my right.
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You can come to your own conclusion.
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You decipher and like you said giving.
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I think especially as in martial law in in your approach it comes
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across that you would just want to convey the knowledge to the
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people and the truth will speak itself.
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You know, if you're searching for the truth, like you said at
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the beginning, saying it you it will find you and you will find
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Huck. If you inshallah, we have the
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sincere NIA and our desire is to find that saved.
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Obviously we live in a world at the moment which is heavily
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politicized, and we're seeing a lot of oppression around the
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world. We're seeing a genocide taking
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place in the Philistine and we're seeing the occupation of
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people who are struggling for basic human rights, Philistine,
32:20
for example. It's illegal to collect
32:22
rainwater that open your mouth and drink water that falls from
32:26
the sky or to water your crops, so oppression to such a degree
32:31
is not new in Philistine, but it's also certainly not new in
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human history. Oppression has existed
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throughout the course of human history and this this the the
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key stories and the pinnacles that we see in in the lives of
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the Alabama Salaam and in particular in the life of say
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the Pathan Zaharah is that there should never be a time where
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oppression should take precedent and and be allowed to take place
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without the voice of someone who's speaking justice.
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What is the the the way in which said of Artem Zara and his
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Salaam spoke for justice? And in today's day and age, when
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we see oppression in different forms, in philistine, in other
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parts of the world, or even in day-to-day interactions, how do
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we take from that example from her and apply to our own eyes?
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Listen, I think what Lady Fatima did wasn't for herself.
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So she wasn't simply asking for FedEx.
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I don't think so. I believe that she was asking
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for FedEx because not only it was her right to have it, but
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also they don't want. She didn't want to give tyrants
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the opportunity to confiscate people's properties and what?
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So she didn't want to be quiet on what they are doing and she
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did not even enter the battlefield against some of the
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companions simply because she was not happy with them.
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She did that to protect the Commander of the Faithful, the
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Imam of her era, peace be upon him.
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So what she did was she sacrificed herself to protect
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the Imam. She sacrificed her Life.
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OK to to to protect people's wealth and etcetera.
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And this is exactly what should we do.
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This should be our strategy. If we see any oppressions around
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the globe, we have at least to talk.
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We are not with the killings of innocent people, as simple as
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that. Is that hard to say?
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No, of course not. It's not hard.
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We are not with those who who who do not give people the right
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to live in their lands, for instance.
34:48
So if someone wants to invade your house or your your, your,
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let's say your neighbor's house, you have to take an action.
34:55
You have to try to tell them. Attistiom, call the police.
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Do this and I can call the police on your behalf.
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Tell me what you want. OK, so this is what we can learn
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of a little bit and listen. Imam Hussain was killed.
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Why? Because people of Iraq sought
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his, his interference to rescue them from Omayyat.
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And then he went there and they betrayed him and he was killed.
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So he went there to help them. He didn't have any problem in
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Medina. He was there.
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And then let's say at least he didn't have any problem in Mecca
35:36
because he moved from Medina to Mecca.
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Yazid wanted Imam Hassan to pay allegiance.
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Of course he did not. And he moved to Mecca.
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And Mecca, you know, his holy city, It's was very hard for
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Yazid to ignite a fight against Maham Hussein or a war in Mecca.
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I'm not saying that he wouldn't do that.
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Of course Yazid would do that as well.
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But it was easy for Maham Hussein to just leave alone the
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people of Iraq who who betrayed his father as well, you know.
36:07
But he did not do so. And even he told Ibn Abbas and
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his brother Muhammad Hanafiya. You are that you are telling me
36:14
to avoid going to erupt because you're telling me that some of
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them betrayed my father. OK, but what should I do with
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their letters? They're asking for our help and
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we are careful what I we are The Cave that people can come and
36:27
seek refuge in our cave. You know, they want us to help
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them. So that's why mom hasn't
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sacrificed him. So it's it wasn't simply that
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they wanted to protect their rights.
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No, Imam Ali Ali Salaam says. We have right.
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If people are willing to give us our right, otherwise we're not
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going to fight for it. They want to govern.
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Let them go. Good luck.
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It's not about Dunya. We hate dunya.
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We hate dunya. Even when Imam Ali Ali Salaam
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took back the Khilafah when they elected him the first election
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in history, when they elected Imam Ali Ali Salaam, people
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elected Mama Ali set up Mama Ali did not confiscate it back the
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FedEx and he said must not be FedEx.
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Why FedEx? What should I do with FedEx?
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I don't need FedEx. It's not about FedEx.
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It's not about FedEx. Was it almost?
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Exact FedEx was symbol, symbolic symbolic symbol of oppressions
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and oppressed people and oppressors and tyrants.
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Because that you can argue that, say, the Fatim Sahara's initial
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stand for Fadak, like you said said, was to prevent it
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happening again in the future, but also to make it known to
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those who are attempting to confiscate and steal the land
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that this is not acceptable. It's not acceptable to me, it's
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not acceptable to those after me, and no one should allow this
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to remain acceptable. Yeah, there's another point as
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well. Why?
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Lady Fatima raised the Fadak land as well.
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I believe that the enemies were aiming Imam Ali Ali Salam and
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she wanted to drag away. Attention.
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Their attention from Ali to something else.
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That's why she talked about FedEx and she was the most
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successful oppressed lady in human's history.
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Who who was able to accomplish her mission, and she did and
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stayed alive. She did it very wisely.
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That's that's a true partnership and true love for one another.
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This is and we know you know lazy father of Allah Allah not
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just with the Imam Ali but even with Rasool Allah.
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I remember as a child growing up it's always a hit.
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A hadith, for example, you know, things like this.
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So, you know, plays a huge significant, you know, influence
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on us as Muslims. But you know, say there is one
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thing that you started off with this conversation today and it's
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something we always do and we always do that as well, which
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is, you know, that's Sir. What is that, Sir?
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What is that secret? It's.
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I know that there's a secret behind it, but what does it
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actually mean? What's the meaning behind?
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It if we can understand the secret, it's not secret anymore.
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Yeah, so probably it's the light of man Mehdi probably.
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And I think there is stronger relation between Imam Mehdi and
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Lady Fatima. Both of them did not pay
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allegiance to any tyrant and lady father would not pay
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allegiance and Imam Mehdi will not pay any allegiance to any
40:05
tyrant and that's why man Mehdi says leave sallallahu alayhi
40:10
wasallam or Swatan Hassan. Everyone is waiting and hoping
40:16
and put his hope in Imam Al Mehdi Ali, his Salaam while Imam
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wants to follow the footsteps of Imam Mehdi while Imam Mehdi says
40:24
that I want I am a follower. Of the daughter, he didn't say.
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Even my grandmother, the daughter of the prophet and
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probably the series. Of course, it's a great secret
40:47
that we cannot understand how he will spread justice.
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And I believe he will spread justice using justice because
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sometimes some people come, revolutioners come and say that,
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OK, I want to spread justice and I don't care even if I kill
41:04
100,000 innocent people in the way, you know, because what I'm
41:09
doing is, is a sacred goal. So I'm going to reach that even
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with a cruel methods. But Mahmati Ali said I won't do
41:17
that. He will spread justice with
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justice. And are we ready for that?
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I don't think so. We're not still ready to spread
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justice with justice the humanity.
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When I say humanity should be ready, it means that Imam Mahdi
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al Assam, when he comes, he's not a killer machine, rather
41:40
he's a savior. So just assume that he comes
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while 3 billion people do not believe in him, do not know him,
41:51
and wants to fight him. You're not going to kill 3
41:54
billion people. You know he's not a killing
41:57
machine. He represents almighty God's
41:59
mercy. So yes, the serve, the secret is
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something that we don't know, but maybe it's Imam Ali, Ali.
42:06
So we're certainly most of that fear because we are talking
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about personalities. The Prophet, Imam Ali, Ali,
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Salam Al Hassane and the Sir, what is the secret?
42:17
So maybe he's he's somebody. Maybe that's the possibility
42:22
that this this secret is somebody and that that is no one
42:26
but. Shallow we we, we pray and we
42:28
hope and the shallow we live to see return the joyous return.
42:31
Like you said, he's not. He's not a killing machine.
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Yeah. Charlotte's a joyous return and
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will benefit from his reappearance.
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Being the law. Said, you know, being fat of me.
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You know we spoke a bit about some narrations little
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misconceptions. You know, what's our narrative?
42:44
What does like the other side say?
42:46
But maybe it's the first time someone actually listening to
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something got to do with fat me. What is it that actually that we
42:54
believe happened a Shia today? Departments are what led not the
42:59
incident itself, but what led to the stage where we can say, you
43:03
know, something happened and this is where we should honour
43:07
her and mourn her and remember her and never forget what
43:11
happened to me. Departments what like 2-3 things
43:14
we can take and for those for the first time coming across,
43:17
part of me as a concept keeping a new idea to them, what are
43:20
they going to? Learn, go and read the sermon of
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FedEx and you can realize why the home, the House of Lady
43:29
Fatima was ambushed and why Lady Fatima was killed.
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Because when you read the sermon of FedEx, you can understand how
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frankly she expressed her opinions and how she strongly
43:50
passed the message not only to the tyrant but also to the
43:54
nation as well. So, and of course they did not
43:59
expect Lady Fatima to revolt against them because she was a
44:03
lady OK, who used to be most of her time in her house, OK,
44:10
praying and helping Marali and raising the kids.
44:14
And suddenly she went to the mosque of the Prophet and
44:18
delivered the most significant sermon ever.
44:24
So I believe when they went to the House of Lady Fatima, they
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were aiming Lady Fatima and they went there to kill her.
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Why? Was a way to silence.
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Her. Exactly.
44:37
They won't tolerate her next sermon and after that and
44:42
narrations and and and I don't know, addressing the nation's No
44:45
way. So Lady Fantima, what Lady
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Fatima did, she exposed herself. She made herself a shield to
44:56
protect Imam Ali and that's why she delivered that fiery sermon
45:03
in the mosque of the Prophet. So she dragged.
45:05
All. Envies away from Ali towards
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herself and her baby. So seldom said Inshallah we can.
45:17
We pray that we are worthy to be called amongst the Shia and we
45:24
praise our last Montala to grant you more more opportunities to
45:28
serve the community both here inshallah now and in the future.
45:33
We'd love to to have you again inshallah on the podcast.
45:35
If you'd love to join us again we'd be honoured and also around
45:38
the world inshallah may allow give you more opportunities to
45:41
to continue learning and teaching and and passing on your
45:44
knowledge. Thank you so much.
45:45
Thanks for being with us. Say it as well.
45:49
Thank you as always. Your questions?
45:50
You have to thank the original, say that you.
45:55
OK, let me tell you just something.
45:58
Just go and Instagram right side.
46:01
Everyone will see your your photos not me.
46:03
So you are the original. Maybe we'll maybe we'll swap
46:08
said Ali for for the original, said Ali.
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I don't mind not to Australia, OK most.
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Welcome. No.
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Today was very eye opening and you know I I really pray and
46:19
hope that everyone is listening to this and and some questions I
46:22
asked it wasn't like maybe because of me.
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No it was on behalf of our audience.
46:26
Yeah but there's a reason for these questions because a lot of
46:28
people like they know the truth. They're seeking the truth but
46:32
they they don't want to chase it.
46:34
And Charlotte, this is an opportunity for them where
46:36
inshallah, they've been so educated towards seeking the
46:39
path of Ha. That's what's important.
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And I know I learn a lot and shall everyone found it
46:43
beneficial. And shall I look?
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Forward to having you on after. Inshallah, inshallah, stay tuned
46:51
as always. We are going to be back next
46:53
week but in the next few days leading up to the third
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narration shahadat of Setafatam Zahraleh Salaam, please keep us
47:01
in your dars. Please remember all of those who
47:03
are oppressed and all of those who have no one to pray for them
47:07
at this moment in time. And inshallah we will be back
47:10
next week. Leave your comments, your
47:11
feedback down below. What is the lesson that you take
47:15
away from the life of Setafatam Zahra?
47:17
There a particular statement in the seminar fedock that you
47:20
really appreciate or or is is something there that that makes
47:24
you think? And is there something that you
47:27
want to share with us that maybe we can bring up in our next
47:29
week's discussion? Let us know and inshallah, we
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will see you. Then said Ali and said Ali.
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Thank you again and we'll see you next week everyone.
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Sha Allah.