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The Bolt Report | 19 February · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: He's the good reform it.
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Speaker 2: Tonight Clive Palmer is back. He's bought himself a new
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Speaker 2: party after Pauline Hanson refused to sell him hers. You
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Speaker 2: can laugh, but this is actually bad news for the
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Speaker 2: Abeneze government. Plus you've actually bought thousands, now thousands of
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Speaker 2: these books. Have to see me talk about them here.
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Speaker 2: Now there's a legal action to force the Government Truth
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Speaker 2: Commission to read them as well.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 2: So tonight what test cricket at was Mankabaja doesn't get
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Speaker 2: about this due hatred here and Mega Markel launches her
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Speaker 2: new business. Plus Anthony Albanezi, he plays the Lovebirds for
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Speaker 2: virts doesn't work. But first there were two big blows
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Speaker 2: today to prominise how Anthony Abeneze's hopes winning the election.
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Speaker 2: One I agree seems a clown show. Billionaire Clive Palmer
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Speaker 2: is back in charge of the political party. As I said,
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Speaker 2: it's just bought it so recently, in fact, that he
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Speaker 2: couldn't even get its name right. Clive, it's the trumpet,
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Speaker 2: not trumpets, trumpet of patriots.
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Speaker 4: Trumpet trumpet of patriots. The trumpet of patriots, Trumpet of
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Speaker 4: patriots will make Australia greater. Again the trump pet of patriots.
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Speaker 4: The trumpets of patriots have been registered since two thousand
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Speaker 4: and five.
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Speaker 2: It gets to Parmer in a second and how it
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Speaker 2: is actually going to hurt labor. But much more serious
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Speaker 2: than that for alban Easy and the country was this today,
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Speaker 2: the catastrophic collapse of why Olie steel Works in South Australia,
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Speaker 2: the one we were told we'll be saved by green energy,
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Speaker 2: which Albanese's Energy Minister Chris Bone and then prompably gave
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Speaker 2: millions to well today put into administration by the South
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Speaker 2: Australian Premiere after failing to pay around three hundred million
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Speaker 2: dollars of bills.
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Speaker 3: Give the state rights to be able to enter the
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Speaker 3: steel works to perform functions such as basic inspections. The
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Speaker 3: second is to get definitively the right to have access
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Speaker 3: to the accounts of the operator of the steelworks. And
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Speaker 3: the third is to provide the South Australian Government a
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Speaker 3: first charge over debts that are owed to the South
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Speaker 3: Australian Government.
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Speaker 2: Now, this disaster finally has to tell every Australian that
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Speaker 2: Labour's climate schemes are ruining this country. As I've trained
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Speaker 2: to warn for months years and they must be scrapped. Now.
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Speaker 2: This collapse is utter humiliation for melanoosis and also for
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Speaker 2: Chris Bowen, who's almost the range bows global warming obsession.
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Speaker 2: You have got to ask how much of our money
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Speaker 2: have these climate dupes wasted? Have they cost us by
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Speaker 2: believing a huckster's claim that some miracle gas green hydrogen
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Speaker 2: is going to save these steel works which prop up
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Speaker 2: Wyolo and you know it's three thousand jobs, the three
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Speaker 2: thousand jobs of these steel works. Fourteen years ago, Tony Ebbatt's,
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Speaker 2: the federal opposition leader, did warn the Labour's climate crusade
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Speaker 2: was going to check out the price of electricity and
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Speaker 2: wipe out WAYLA. He was mocked in by labor and
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Speaker 2: the warmest media, which then in twenty seventeen hailed British
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Speaker 2: steel magnet Sanjeev Gutta his the city savior because he
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Speaker 2: was going to buy these steel works out of administration
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Speaker 2: and promise to make it one of the biggest steel
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Speaker 2: works in the world by powering it with green hydrogen,
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Speaker 2: which is made by pumping massive amounts of wind and
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Speaker 2: solid power through water.
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Speaker 3: British industrialist and owner of while the steel works Sanjiev
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Speaker 3: Gupta has big ambitions to use hydrogen instead to make
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Speaker 3: what's known as green steel.
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Speaker 4: For us, this is our one best hope for the
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Speaker 4: immediate future.
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Speaker 2: You know the trick now. I mean, as soon as
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Speaker 2: you mentioned green energy, especially green hydrogen, you can play
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Speaker 2: Chris Bowen like a fiddle. I mean he and Anthey
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Speaker 2: Abdes as well. They actually think green hydrogen will be
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Speaker 2: our salvation. Our future is a clean energy superpower.
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Speaker 5: Our green hydrogen future is fundamental to that clean energy future.
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Speaker 2: These guys seem not to know or care that green
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Speaker 2: hydrogen is ridiculously expensive and has not been proven to
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Speaker 2: work at scale anywhere, which is why a lot of
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Speaker 2: investancy are now walking away from even Andrew Forest. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: well look it was green.
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 2: That's enough for Chris Boone, It's enough for to Melanowskus.
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Speaker 2: What more do you want? Green power? So bowen handed,
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Speaker 2: But get this Bowen handed Gupte Steelworks sixty three million
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Speaker 2: dollars of your money for a low carbon electric arc furnace.
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Speaker 2: He gave that massive handout even though Gupta was already
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Speaker 2: known to be in huge trouble, was known to shift
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Speaker 2: money from one part of his failing business to another.
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Speaker 5: I'm also announcing today another allocation out of the fund
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Speaker 5: of sixty three million dollars for Bluescoe's friends at Liberty Steel, Ewayala.
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Speaker 5: That'll be years for the establishment of elect.
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Speaker 2: Kiss a goodbye. Boone's money is most likely now gone
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Speaker 2: your money. And what's more, Bowen and prom malinowskis, do
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Speaker 2: you believe these guys They were so sure that green
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Speaker 2: hydrogen would now be needed around Wyala for these steel works.
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Speaker 2: So they also promised one hundred million dollars to help
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Speaker 2: build Astrow's first large scale export terminal four hydrogen at
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Speaker 2: near by point beneath them, and Malanowsk has even talked
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Speaker 2: to plans for a hydrogen power plant for Wayala worth
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Speaker 2: nearly six hundred million dollars. I mean where these guys
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Speaker 2: are incredible and even today, even after this disaster, the
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Speaker 2: premium will say, oh well, that plant still could happen
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Speaker 2: one day, although maybe not yet.
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Speaker 3: We absolutely believe as a government that hydrogen will have
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Speaker 3: a role to play in the decalbonization of still in
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Speaker 3: the future. I mean it is the way to do it.
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Speaker 2: I mean we can question.
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Speaker 3: Timing and when that might occur, but at some point
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Speaker 3: we'll be part of the future and weren't want to
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Speaker 3: say about what we're doing with our own plans tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: Joke I mean good to must have seen come in
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Speaker 2: spinner Christmas? How canable can you be? What Australia smelters
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Speaker 2: and our heavy industry are actually screaming for is cheaper
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Speaker 2: twenty four to seven electricity. You don't need the ground,
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Speaker 2: you know, you don't need all that, don't need green hydrodens,
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Speaker 2: You can't use just cheaper electricity. Instead, they've got this
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Speaker 2: unreliable wind and soul of power. This gives us Outh
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Speaker 2: Australia some of the world's highest electricity prices. And now
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Speaker 2: this scupta he can't play his bills to supplies around Wayla. Right.
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Speaker 2: He's a man though, who is meanwhile renovating his thirty
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Speaker 2: four million dollar waterside mansion in Sydney. He must be
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Speaker 2: laughing at how easy it was to get all his
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Speaker 2: promises and all this cash from Bowen and Melanawskus. Well today,
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Speaker 2: at least the premiere ran out of patients, saw the
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Speaker 2: jig was up. He put these steel works into administration
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Speaker 2: rush through a law allowing the governor to go through
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Speaker 2: its books. He also promised the package to keep the
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Speaker 2: steel works in business under different owners, and Malanoskers even
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Speaker 2: claimed today, despide all that, despide all that Gopta hadn't
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Speaker 2: actually been wrong about the plant, just bad at execution.
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Speaker 3: Mister Cookder's vision is largely the right one. It just
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Speaker 3: hasn't been allowed to come to life.
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Speaker 2: Let me translate all this for you. What did you
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Speaker 2: just said to keep it going, to cover up the mistake?
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Speaker 2: To whatever taxpayers are going to get belted yet again
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Speaker 2: and again. And that's not all. That's not all Port
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Speaker 2: Benoden's hydrogen dream that is almost certainly doomed as well,
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Speaker 2: and that money gone and pope portion of it. I
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Speaker 2: broke Steelworks simply cannot afford green hydrogen, and an analysis
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Speaker 2: has already admitted that no green hydrogen the steel works
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Speaker 2: probably means no hydrogen plant at Port Benoden either. But
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Speaker 2: did anyone see Energy Minister Chris Bowen today, and normally
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Speaker 2: you know, give him a camera, will film himself if
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Speaker 2: he has to gone missing. Today, Now that another of
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Speaker 2: his green schemes, particularly another of his greenhide schemes, to
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Speaker 2: hit the wall, I guess this is some basement where
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Speaker 2: it's just been posting how the opposition's plans for nuclear power,
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Speaker 2: which at least is reliable power, Chris isn't thought through,
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Speaker 2: He says, isn't thought through. Well, I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 2: Bowen is the last person to judge what's thought through
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Speaker 2: or not. With his hydrogen plants plans collapsing all over
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Speaker 2: the country. And I tell you, smelt us everywhere would
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Speaker 2: be desperate for a nuclear power station now to guarantee
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Speaker 2: the militricity Bowen Melanauskus. How can the country be run
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Speaker 2: like this on wild green dreams? And if we don't
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Speaker 2: wake up to these guys and others like them, this
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Speaker 2: wayle to wipeout will not be the last, oh one
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Speaker 2: last thing. This is such a roll gold disaster that
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister will fly Towayalis to tell the workers
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Speaker 2: something reassuring. If you can think of something, I've got
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Speaker 2: a plan for him. You know what you should say.
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Chris Bowen is sacked. So the other bad
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Speaker 2: news today for the Prime Minister Clive Palmer is back.
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Speaker 2: Is just brought himself that new party bought it from
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Speaker 2: its original owners. So because then it's already registered he
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Speaker 2: wouldn't have been had it ready in time otherwise for
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Speaker 2: the election. It's a party so new that, as I showed,
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Speaker 2: you can't quite remember its name. Struggled through his pitch
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Speaker 2: too at the relaunch.
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Speaker 4: Today Australian governments have prevented austraight sorry too much immigration
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Speaker 4: destroys our infrastructure, roads, schools and hospitals.
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Speaker 2: His new party chief Sir well and Rights and is
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Speaker 2: actually stuffer from Senator Ralph Babbott's office, who Palmer got
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Speaker 2: elected at the last election. She once stood for Palmer's
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Speaker 2: even earlier United Earlier United Australia Party, which is now deregistered.
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Speaker 2: She was nervous as well.
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Speaker 7: In the United States of America, government waste and corruption
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Speaker 7: is finally being exposed. In Australia. For too long, Australians
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Speaker 7: have suffered from a duopoly from a duopoly of power,
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Speaker 7: The Laboral sorry, the Labor and Liberal Party have been
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Speaker 7: doing deals designed to take the Australian people's money for
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Speaker 7: their own uses.
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Speaker 2: Now Palmer had to buy this party because his old one,
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Speaker 2: the United Australian Party, was the registered. It was too hard,
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Speaker 2: it would taken too long, too much work to create
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Speaker 2: a new one in time for the election, and last November,
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Speaker 2: in fact, he try to buy Pauline Hanson's One Nation
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Speaker 2: party offer, offered a ten million dollars for it, plus
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Speaker 2: half a million dollars for illegal costs in that awful
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Speaker 2: court case with a Green senator. Now the terms, when
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Speaker 2: you read them, make absolutely clear that this was in
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Speaker 2: fact the takeover. You know, sure that changed the name
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Speaker 2: of the parties, had One Nation to do the Clive
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Speaker 2: and Pauline party. Clive comes first, which Partmer had registered
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Speaker 2: without Hanson's knowledge, But Clive Palmer would control it. He
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Speaker 2: would have had five of the known people on the
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Speaker 2: party's committee. Handsome turned him down, said my party's not
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Speaker 2: for sale, not even for ten million dollars. So it
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Speaker 2: is easy from everything I've just said to mock Clive Palmer,
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Speaker 2: especially when you know the last selection he spent one
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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars on a United Australia Party campaign and
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Speaker 2: got just one senator elected, that Ralph Babbott. And when
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Speaker 2: his one big success twelve years ago, I was having
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Speaker 2: five people in Parliament, including himself, and he'd have his
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Speaker 2: party explode with only Jackie Lamby still in Parliament after
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Speaker 2: forming her own party, and for sure, you know the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister did mock Clive Palmer today.
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Speaker 8: It's a distortion of democracy when you have an individual
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Speaker 8: spending one hundred million dollars on a camp pain, a
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Speaker 8: blocou spends over one hundred million dollars to deliver one
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Speaker 8: Senate seat, where the blocouse sits in the corner and
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Speaker 8: just engages in conspiracy theories. I don't think it represents
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Speaker 8: value for money.
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Speaker 2: I think we can leave Clip having to judge whether
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Speaker 2: it's value for money. He certainly thinks it is, whatever
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Speaker 2: the result. And with his money, he also has a message,
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Speaker 2: and it's a popular spine borrowed from Donald Trump and
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Speaker 2: from political soundbites of the right. Right here, our.
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Speaker 4: Biggest policy is to cut government waste, much as Elon
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Speaker 4: Musk is doing in the United States. Our policy is
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Speaker 4: to recognize that there are two genders, a male and
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Speaker 4: a female. We don't want men in women's sports, and
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Speaker 4: we don't want males dressed as females, confusing our children
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Speaker 4: in our schools.
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Speaker 2: Now, add his money to his message, and labor has
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Speaker 2: a problem because Pome's going to spend an absolute motza
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Speaker 2: on advertising and the message he blasts out may not
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Speaker 2: get his candidates elected. Palme's not going to run himself
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Speaker 2: this time, but sure could hurt labor. After all, Palmer
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Speaker 2: is from the right. And by the way, this sort
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Speaker 2: of spells struggle for Handsome because her voters are most
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Speaker 2: likely going to be the ones that Palmer is going for.
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Speaker 2: But for the Liberals to no worries. Palmer's preferences flow
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Speaker 2: strongly to them, So it's all good. Join me as
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Speaker 2: a political panel, Camera Milner form, which you've started, Labor
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Speaker 2: leader Bill Shorten now as director of g Exo Strategies,
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Speaker 2: and Michael Costa, former New South Wales labor treasurer. Michael
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Speaker 2: Clive Palmer. What difference will he make.
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Speaker 9: I think he'll make a difference at the margin. I'm
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Speaker 9: not as sure that he's going to have the influence
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Speaker 9: that you think, Andrew. I think he could also affect Dutton. Remember, yes,
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Speaker 9: his preferences, the majority of them flow to the Conservatives
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Speaker 9: or the Coalition, but not all of them. I think
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Speaker 9: last election about thirty percent drifted off everywhere else in
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Speaker 9: some of those marginal suits that Dun't needs to win.
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Speaker 9: That could be a factor. So you know, I think
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Speaker 9: he's throwing a wild card into this. You know, it's
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Speaker 9: just amazing. You know, most I suppose rich people in
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Speaker 9: their midlife crisises or late life crisis is going by
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Speaker 9: ferraris or you know, something of substances. He goes and
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Speaker 9: buys political parties and tries to run. I just don't
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Speaker 9: understand what his strategy is. I don't think those messages
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Speaker 9: will cut through. He had very similar sorts of messages
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Speaker 9: last time around, and you know it fizzed out. But
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Speaker 9: I think it means minority government's almost a certain. The
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Speaker 9: issue is which party will have the majority in that minority,
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Speaker 9: and that's the rual worry that this could go anywhere.
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Speaker 2: Now, don't get me wrong. I don't think he's going
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Speaker 2: to have a huge influence at all. I think his
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Speaker 2: time is gone. But in a very very tight election,
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Speaker 2: two or three percent could really turn it. And as
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Speaker 2: for the preferences, I've got to say he also took
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Speaker 2: a lot of labor, working class folks, and I think
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Speaker 2: that explains way and not all the preferences went to
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Speaker 2: the Liberals. Clave Palmer, what difference do you think he'll make, Cameron, Well,
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Speaker 2: it's the sheer to the ad buy.
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Speaker 10: I mean, one hundred million dollars dropped into our market
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Speaker 10: will actually touch the side and actually crowd everyone else's
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Speaker 10: message out and has the opportunity to potentially, as he's
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Speaker 10: done in previous elections, actually raise issues that are uncomfortable
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Speaker 10: for the major parties to deal with. So I think
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Speaker 10: there will be influence around around some issues. To Michael's point,
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Speaker 10: I agree. I think Michael, he's not going to get
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Speaker 10: anyone else elected, but that's not the metric he's going after.
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Speaker 10: He wants to be noticed, he wants to have influence,
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Speaker 10: and I think one hundred million dollars will buy him
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Speaker 10: a seat at the table.
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Speaker 2: Full buy him a lot of noise. That's I think
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Speaker 2: is may name. Michael said a big story today the
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Speaker 2: South Australian government putting the Wayale of Steel Works into administration.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I said at the top of the show,
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Speaker 2: this is out of humiliation for the Premiere and for
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Speaker 2: Energy Minister Chris Boe Albaniz's energy minister who bought that
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Speaker 2: snake oil the steel works would be saved by green
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Speaker 2: hydrogen and through millions and millions of dollars at this project.
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Speaker 2: Your take, I.
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Speaker 9: Was quite amazed at that press confluence. So I think
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Speaker 9: the beginning of it was fine. Yeah, clearly he didn't
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Speaker 9: want to spend any more money propping up something that's
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Speaker 9: clearly a money pit. But then halfway through he starts
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Speaker 9: talking about decarbonize a carbonizing steel. I mean steel is
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Speaker 9: fundamentally carbon. I mean for every ton of steel, it's
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Speaker 9: two tons of carbon. And not only that, you need
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Speaker 9: a three quarters of a ton of coking coal. The
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Speaker 9: guy's out in fairy land if he thinks he's going
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Speaker 9: to decarbonized steel, and if that's the attitude they're going
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Speaker 9: into this, I dread tomorrow's announcement. They're just going to
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Speaker 9: throw more money at something that's doomed to fail. Green
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Speaker 9: hydrogen cannot functionally operate a steel plant. That's the reality
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Speaker 9: of it. It's not been done anywhere in the world,
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Speaker 9: and getting rid of carbon out of steel is just
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Speaker 9: a fantasy. I don't know what planet these people are on.
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Speaker 9: You know, all these green jobs they like talking about,
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Speaker 9: they're always subsidized, and really productive jobs that require just
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Speaker 9: access to efficient resources they undermine. So Andrew, I dread
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Speaker 9: for the future of while because the best you're going
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Speaker 9: to get out of this is some short term fix
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Speaker 9: for the election and after that somebody's going to have
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Speaker 9: to clean up the mess. And it is a mess,
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Speaker 9: and South Australia is probably the worst of the mess
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Speaker 9: in terms of energy. They blew up their cold plant,
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Speaker 9: as you remember, and you know they're left in a
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Speaker 9: position where they can't have We're deindustrializing Australia, that's all
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Speaker 9: we're doing.
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Speaker 2: You would think after such a hugely expensive lesson they
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Speaker 2: would have learned they're just blaming the jockey when the
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Speaker 2: horse called green hydrogen is a complete it's right for
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Speaker 2: the knackery. I mean it's unbelieva. They're going to give
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Speaker 2: green hydrogen horse another gallup. I mean it's incredible. What
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Speaker 2: do you make of all this, Cameron? You know, is
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Speaker 2: it going to feed into the election at all? What
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Speaker 2: do you make of it?
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Speaker 10: Well, I think Wyala doesn't sit in the marginal seat.
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Speaker 10: But there're three thousand people's jobs rely on this decision,
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Speaker 10: so government better get it right.
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Speaker 2: But I agree with both of you. I mean, hydrogen
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Speaker 2: is something that works.
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Speaker 10: In a lab mainly maybe maybe it doesn't work at
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Speaker 10: industrial scale.
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Speaker 2: Isn't it anywhere else in the world?
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Speaker 10: There is cocing coal that does the job, coking coal
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Speaker 10: from Queensland especially, that does the job around the world
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Speaker 10: to make steel look green. Hydrogen is a is a
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Speaker 10: bad idea and if that's the future for a while,
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Speaker 10: I really do hope, as Michael says, that that's not
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Speaker 10: what's going to be promised by Elbow tomorrow, because that
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Speaker 10: would be a disaster for those three thousand people and
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Speaker 10: their livelihoods. Let's get back to making steal with coal
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Speaker 10: the world does and the way we've done.
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Speaker 2: If they do Ananda, it would be terrible.
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Speaker 11: It'd be terrible.
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Speaker 2: Oh look, it's the whole thing is a walking, talking disaster.
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Speaker 2: And what's more infuriating is that they don't even learn
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Speaker 2: the lessons. Now. I mean, God's helped this country, Michael.
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Speaker 2: Yesterday the Reserve cut interest rates for the first though
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Speaker 2: in four years. But just zero point two five percent,
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Speaker 2: or two dollars sixty a day for someone with a
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Speaker 2: half a million dollar mortgage. I thought the Treasurer at
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Speaker 2: last that wasn't confident And on the ABC this would
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Speaker 2: actually save the government.
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Speaker 1: Here is does this this single measure on inflation do
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Speaker 1: you think do enough in the voter's minds to offset
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Speaker 1: the collapse in their living standards.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think that remains to be seen, to be
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Speaker 2: frank about it, Michael, what did you make of all
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Speaker 2: that We Well.
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Speaker 9: That's just absolutely ridiculous. You know, a twenty five basis
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Speaker 9: point cut in mortgage rate just somehow going to offset
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Speaker 9: the pain they've gone through for the last four years.
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Speaker 9: It's just it's a nonsensical question, a nonsensical answer. But
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Speaker 9: that aside. I said earlier that you know, one of
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Speaker 9: the worst things that could have happened to this government
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Speaker 9: is actually get this interest rate cut now rather than
20:46
Speaker 9: in April, because they're now facing the prospect that they're
20:49
Speaker 9: called an April election, and the Reserve made it pretty
20:52
Speaker 9: clear that it was a lineball decision yesterday and they
20:56
Speaker 9: won't or cut interest rates in the April meeting, which
20:59
Speaker 9: means they in the middle of election campaign with interest
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Speaker 9: rates on whold, so their whole economic narrative falls apart.
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Speaker 9: And you know those figures today in terms of wages. Well,
21:12
Speaker 9: that's what I said.
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Speaker 2: You don't make that point. That's a very good point, Michael.
21:17
Speaker 2: I hadn't considered that. Yes, Indeed, in the middle of
21:19
Speaker 2: the election I thought maybe you know, there was a
21:22
Speaker 2: chance that would be even a second cut then, but
21:25
Speaker 2: absolutely not. As you say, it's remarkable that they actually
21:28
Speaker 2: cut this time, and there was something else Cameron in
21:30
Speaker 2: that interview I found curious, even hours after the Reserve
21:34
Speaker 2: Bank announcement, hours after the gun was handed what it
21:36
Speaker 2: hopes is a lifeline in this election, Jim Charmers, the
21:40
Speaker 2: treasure still didn't talk to elban Eazy have listened.
21:43
Speaker 1: Have you spoken to the Prime Minister since the announcement.
21:46
Speaker 2: I know we've had an exchange, but I haven't spoken
21:48
Speaker 2: to him yet. Obviously I'll have the opportunity to do
21:52
Speaker 2: that before long, can we re Mibner, Are you surprised.
21:58
Speaker 3: Well?
21:58
Speaker 10: I mean everyone the talk around Camber is the estrangement
22:01
Speaker 10: between the Treasurer and the Prime Minister. I mean the
22:03
Speaker 10: Prime Minister was talking about his nuptials today rather than
22:06
Speaker 10: the economy. I mean, this guy has been off off
22:08
Speaker 10: doing Coca kabana everything else. I mean, Jim's trying to
22:11
Speaker 10: write the ship, Jim's trying to deliver a budget. Jim's
22:14
Speaker 10: trying to talk about the economy and jobs and the economy,
22:17
Speaker 10: and every other day he's Prime minised off on some
22:19
Speaker 10: o the frolic. So, look, there's definitely estrangement between the two,
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Speaker 10: but for five hours, five hours after the RBA governor
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Speaker 10: and not to have a conversation. I'm glad that the
22:29
Speaker 10: Jim told the truth and fest up that there wasn't
22:31
Speaker 10: a conversation, because it tells us just how bad that
22:33
Speaker 10: estrangement must be.
22:37
Speaker 2: Very interesting. I thought, yes, thank you and Michael Cossa
22:40
Speaker 2: Cameron Milner, thank you both for your time. Really appreciate
22:43
Speaker 2: a good chat. After the break woke latest the woman
22:49
Speaker 2: just chosen to play Jesus Christ. Would you believe? Plus
22:53
Speaker 2: tests criculdusm Kwanga complains, We've got to treat this lamophobias
22:56
Speaker 2: seriously as Ju Hadred, but I'll give him the shoppings statistics.
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Speaker 2: Hamas has finally admitted to something that makes me wonder
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Speaker 2: why it still gets so much support here from Israel haters.
23:15
Speaker 2: This terrorist group that rules Gaza admits that the mother
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Speaker 2: and babies it kidnapped fourteen months ago. The Bibus family's
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Speaker 2: actually been dead for months, murdered, I suspect, and tomorrow
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Speaker 2: it's going to send the bodies back to Israel and
23:36
Speaker 2: to swap them for live Palestinian prisons. Can you believe that?
23:41
Speaker 2: It's so disgusting? I mean, kidnapping these children for a start,
23:44
Speaker 2: what kind of animals would do that, and killing them
23:48
Speaker 2: or letting them die whatever, not telling their relatives for
23:52
Speaker 2: months and months they were dead, to at least spare
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Speaker 2: them the frantic, desperate, worried day in day out. It's
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Speaker 2: so barbaric. And I asked the Israel haters, can you
24:06
Speaker 2: imagine if Israel did that, kidnapped babies, killed them, kept
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Speaker 2: their bodies for months, kept families in agony, and then
24:16
Speaker 2: demanded live prisoners in exchange. It's sick. But today today, segue,
24:27
Speaker 2: we learned that test cricket at was Mankawaja. He's upset.
24:31
Speaker 2: He thinks it's the pro Israel's side, which he laughably
24:36
Speaker 2: includes the Prime Minister in that they have the double standards.
24:40
Speaker 2: After two Muslim women, we're attacked by a woman at
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Speaker 2: a Melbourne shopping center. She's now arrested, allegedly attacked, I
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Speaker 2: should say, one allegedly hit the other, allegedly choked with
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Speaker 2: a scarf. One of the women was pregnant, and if true,
24:56
Speaker 2: this is disgusting. But the Gouaga says, look, he's posted
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Speaker 2: over five hundred percent rise in Islamophobic attack incidents reported.
25:08
Speaker 2: Where is the justice? He says, where rather than have
25:12
Speaker 2: an exclusive anti Semitic summit. Don't know what he means.
25:17
Speaker 2: I think it might be ours tomorrow. How about we
25:21
Speaker 2: stop picking sides and include Islamophobia and giv it the
25:27
Speaker 2: weight it deserves, the weight it deserves. Joining me is
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Speaker 2: Ron Dean and through in chief of the Spectator Strawer
25:34
Speaker 2: and hosts of Outsiders every Sunday here at nine am,
25:36
Speaker 2: plus his own show now on Friday's seven pm. Doing
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Speaker 2: extremely well, Rowan, thank you so much for your time.
25:45
Speaker 2: So lisbon kowha Je suggests that you hatred in is
25:48
Speaker 2: Lamophobia should be treated equally, and to be fair, yes,
25:52
Speaker 2: I am equally and we all should be equally disgusted
25:54
Speaker 2: by racist of whatever stripe, including ones you know racists
25:59
Speaker 2: go around picking on Muslims. I agree, but I wonder
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Speaker 2: whether the two things are equally common in scale or severity.
26:07
Speaker 2: When you check, there are eight times more Muslims than
26:11
Speaker 2: Jews in this country, eight times more, yet they still
26:15
Speaker 2: only get half as many attacks. Or to put it
26:17
Speaker 2: this way, on these figures, Jews are more than sixteen
26:21
Speaker 2: times more likely to be attacked here than Muslim. So
26:24
Speaker 2: what's the answer to kuwaja?
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Speaker 11: Well, the answer is to ignore kuaja, because this is
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Speaker 11: the game that the pro Palestinian crowd play, and they
26:36
Speaker 11: play it ruthlessly, and they play it relentlessly, which is
26:40
Speaker 11: to draw moral equivalents between Israel and between Islam or
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Speaker 11: the plight of Palestinians or whatever you want to call it.
26:48
Speaker 11: And this game has been going on for years and years,
26:50
Speaker 11: to the extent where you know, arguably the pro Palestinian
26:54
Speaker 11: crowd have stolen the language of the Holocaust, for instance,
26:57
Speaker 11: referring to you know, what's happening Inza's genocide, referring to
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Speaker 11: the Holocaust that's happened to Palestinians or whatever, and tried
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Speaker 11: to steal the narrative. This endless, relentless push to put
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Speaker 11: the two things on an equal level is the game
27:13
Speaker 11: that is being played. And unfortunately, the left side of
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Speaker 11: politics in this country plays that game religiously, as it were,
27:22
Speaker 11: and insists the whole time that if you're talking about
27:26
Speaker 11: anti Semitism, you must talk about Islamophobia. I was trying
27:29
Speaker 11: to think of an analogy, Andrew, but the best I
27:31
Speaker 11: could come up with, was you grew up in Darwin
27:33
Speaker 11: and imagine if the same week as the cyclone knocked
27:36
Speaker 11: out Darwin flattened it and destroyed it, someone else was going,
27:40
Speaker 11: oh yeah, it was a bit windy, bit gusty down
27:42
Speaker 11: in Burmaghuey. They're not equal. You don't talk about them
27:46
Speaker 11: in the same breath. They are completely separate things. Anti
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Speaker 11: Semitism is an ancient hatred, much of it from the
27:54
Speaker 11: Islamic world, but not exclusively to rid the world of
27:58
Speaker 11: Jews full stop. That's what anti Semitism is about. It's
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Speaker 11: a struggle or a fight or an evil that has
28:06
Speaker 11: persisted through in the world, down through the ages, and
28:11
Speaker 11: it takes many shapes, in many forms, and it's disgusting
28:14
Speaker 11: whenever it happens to talk about it. Some women in
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Speaker 11: the shopping center, that's great, let's just let's call the
28:20
Speaker 11: police and get the police to investigate why the women
28:22
Speaker 11: in the shopping center were harassed and hassled. And that's
28:26
Speaker 11: you know, who did it and why they did it,
28:27
Speaker 11: et cetera, et cetera. But it is sickening to draw
28:31
Speaker 11: a comparison between these two things. What we have seen
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Speaker 11: since October seventh, the most barbaric, vicious, vile, evil pogram
28:41
Speaker 11: the Western world certainly has seen since the Holocaust and
28:46
Speaker 11: reminiscent of the worst and most atrocious events going back
28:49
Speaker 11: in European history. To have that and to have cricketers
28:53
Speaker 11: talking about, well, you've got to worry about some women
28:55
Speaker 11: in the shopping center is disgusting in my opinion.
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Speaker 2: Well, also, I don't see people in synagogues or wherever
29:06
Speaker 2: urging hatred against the Islam or even attacks on Islam.
29:12
Speaker 2: And I don't see mosques burning, and I wouldn't want
29:14
Speaker 2: to see moss burning like I see synagogues being attacked.
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Speaker 2: For instance. By the way, those figures I gave there
29:20
Speaker 2: were for thee both for the one year after the
29:24
Speaker 2: October seventh attack, and I think it speaks for itself. Rowan,
29:27
Speaker 2: more identity politics. The Hollywood Bowl in LA has announced
29:32
Speaker 2: the new production of Jesus Christ Superstar, where Jesus as
29:36
Speaker 2: is the Way Now in these Times will be played
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Speaker 2: in fact by a black Lesbian Cynthia Arrivo on the left.
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Speaker 2: Ear Rowan, make this make.
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Speaker 11: Sense, well, Andrew, I've already rushed out and bought my tickets.
29:50
Speaker 11: I can't wait I mean, who wouldn't want to see
29:52
Speaker 11: a black lesbian playing Jesus Christ in Andrew Lloyd Webber's
29:56
Speaker 11: Greatest musical. I mean, I can't wait. It must be
29:58
Speaker 11: her acting skills to be phenomenal, because I was under
30:03
Speaker 11: the impression, obviously a false impression, that actors were supposed
30:06
Speaker 11: to in this new woke era be of the identity
30:10
Speaker 11: of the person they're portraying. So, for example, if I'm
30:16
Speaker 11: the role calls for, you know, the role as the
30:19
Speaker 11: character the character is a transgender person, obviously only a
30:22
Speaker 11: transgender actor could play the role. Or if it's a
30:25
Speaker 11: gay character, obviously only a gay actor could play the role.
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Speaker 11: So are we now to believe that Jesus was a
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Speaker 11: black lesbian.
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Speaker 2: No.
30:34
Speaker 11: What I would like to see is, perhaps now as
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Speaker 11: a sort of counterpart, a play about black lesbians in
30:41
Speaker 11: which Jewish males play the lead role of black lesbians.
30:44
Speaker 11: I think that'll be fantastic, and that would.
30:46
Speaker 2: Be the era of actors skills.
30:48
Speaker 11: That we are now in, and look good luck to them.
30:51
Speaker 11: I'm sure it'll be a sellout. Personally, I can't wait
30:54
Speaker 11: to see it, although I'm not sure what we'll be
30:57
Speaker 11: up there with the best of of this.
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Speaker 2: I mean I thought even I saw some of the
31:07
Speaker 2: reaction on X and people that liked it, it was
31:12
Speaker 2: almost uniform, you know, like, well, if this really upsets conservatives,
31:16
Speaker 2: I'm for it. Or this Trump haters will hate this,
31:21
Speaker 2: will hate this great? You know it was Why would
31:24
Speaker 2: you go there and watch it? Not taking joy and
31:27
Speaker 2: what you're seeing, but joy and what you imagined that
31:31
Speaker 2: other people would be. You know, that'd be hating it.
31:33
Speaker 2: I mean, what kind of mentality. I don't get this
31:38
Speaker 2: to get And you're quite right, I mean how far
31:40
Speaker 2: we've gone. You remember Yasmin abdel McGee. Remember her, she
31:45
Speaker 2: was a young queens over the year she stormed out
31:48
Speaker 2: of Lionel Shriver's Brisbane Writers Festival thing because she was
31:53
Speaker 2: defending you know how you could wear a Mexican hat
31:57
Speaker 2: even though it was a Mexican sombrero. You could wear it,
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Speaker 2: you know otherwise. But oh no, this is identity theft.
32:03
Speaker 2: Well what's this?
32:04
Speaker 11: Then they've got to work the rules out. They haven't
32:06
Speaker 11: worked the rules out anyway.
32:10
Speaker 2: Well, now, as long as you know white people are
32:15
Speaker 2: upset or conservatives, that's art. So there you go. Rowan Dean,
32:19
Speaker 2: thank you so much. For your time.
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Speaker 3: Thanks and.
32:24
Speaker 2: You work out the rules because I can't. After the break.
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Speaker 2: Like I said, you've been ordering these books by the thousands,
32:32
Speaker 2: and thank you for that. The whole truth. Now there's
32:36
Speaker 2: legal action to make a government truth commission read them
32:40
Speaker 2: as well. Thanks to your response, we've helped to sell
32:49
Speaker 2: thousands and thousands of these books. I keep holding up
32:53
Speaker 2: the whole truth and the problem with truth telling Volume one,
32:58
Speaker 2: Volume two, Volume three, But now it's led to legal action.
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Speaker 2: As I told you before, these books were published to
33:07
Speaker 2: be a submission to the europe Justice Commission, which is
33:11
Speaker 2: another race body that the Victorian government set up to
33:14
Speaker 2: supposedly tell us the truth about this awful white settlement
33:19
Speaker 2: meanness of the British. And now they destroyed everything. But
33:23
Speaker 2: these books were meant to sort of counter that when
33:28
Speaker 2: we come to working out how much we owe, if
33:31
Speaker 2: we owe anything at all, to averages today in compensation,
33:35
Speaker 2: because what if averages before White seltment, we're actually living
33:39
Speaker 2: harsh lives, were dying early, had lots of warfare, very
33:45
Speaker 2: high rates of domestic violence. You should see what the
33:48
Speaker 2: bone evidence, by the way, says about that. That is
33:52
Speaker 2: what these books tell us. They go back through more
33:54
Speaker 2: than two hundred years of our history to get opens
33:56
Speaker 2: accounts of how averages were in fact living when white,
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Speaker 2: which is important to know if you're trying to work
34:04
Speaker 2: out got non averages supposedly oh averages today If you're
34:08
Speaker 2: into that kind of race thinking, you know, inherited generational
34:11
Speaker 2: guilt or whatever. If you think averages were living great
34:15
Speaker 2: lives before whites came and ruined it, you might pay
34:17
Speaker 2: a lot. If you think, actually averages weren't living very
34:20
Speaker 2: good lives at all before whites came and improved it,
34:22
Speaker 2: you may not pay at all. Now, thousands of you
34:25
Speaker 2: clearly wanted to know the facts. You bought this thing,
34:30
Speaker 2: but it seems the europe Justice Commission does not, and
34:34
Speaker 2: now the people behind the books are taking legal action
34:36
Speaker 2: to make them. Join me again is Roger Piscott, a
34:39
Speaker 2: co author of these books and a former deputy leader
34:41
Speaker 2: of the Victorian Liberal Party. At Roger. After months and months,
34:46
Speaker 2: right because we talked about this last year, the europe
34:49
Speaker 2: Commission Justice Commission is finally given in I don't know
34:52
Speaker 2: whether it's your legal threat to make it and put
34:55
Speaker 2: on its webs accepted a submission Volume one, Volume two
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Speaker 2: and three. No, what reason hasn't given for a delaying
35:06
Speaker 2: accepting your books as a submission and be denying these
35:08
Speaker 2: two as submissions.
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Speaker 12: Well, Andrew, it just shows the confusion in the commission.
35:20
Speaker 12: The fact is that this is cherry picking. This is
35:24
Speaker 12: tampering with evidence. It is something which I didn't realize
35:29
Speaker 12: you could do if you're running a royal commission where
35:33
Speaker 12: you decide what will stay and what won't. In other words,
35:38
Speaker 12: they promised people that if they would talk about their
35:42
Speaker 12: views about the Aborigines and how life was and is today,
35:49
Speaker 12: then they would publish it. But they're not. They haven't
35:52
Speaker 12: published it in our case, and they've cherry picked and
35:57
Speaker 12: taken some of the if I can put it this way.
36:00
Speaker 2: Less.
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Speaker 12: Difficult questions, and the difficult questions are the ones which
36:07
Speaker 12: have been left. Now that's not right. It's just wrong
36:12
Speaker 12: that they should be able to cherry pick what evidence
36:16
Speaker 12: they'll use and what they won't. So I would even
36:20
Speaker 12: do about it means that, well, it means that there's
36:24
Speaker 12: actually a further thing that we could do in the
36:27
Speaker 12: legal sense, because as it is at the moment, there
36:31
Speaker 12: are three sources of legal address. One is two thousand
36:39
Speaker 12: and one Act for racial tolerance, and that is interesting
36:47
Speaker 12: because it shows that they should treat everybody equally. The
36:54
Speaker 12: Charter of Human Rights in Victoria that says the same thing.
37:00
Speaker 12: And then there is a High Court decision in twenty
37:03
Speaker 12: nineteen which said that each group of people had the
37:08
Speaker 12: right to be heard. So if you've got an argument
37:13
Speaker 12: about who should be heard and who shouldn't, they say
37:17
Speaker 12: everybody should be heard. And so there are three causes
37:23
Speaker 12: of action. But the fact that they have now decided
37:29
Speaker 12: that one book is okay and the other book isn't
37:33
Speaker 12: means that they're tampering with the evidence.
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Speaker 2: Surely, well, this is going to be very interesting. Have
37:42
Speaker 2: they actually given you any reason or they simply refuse
37:45
Speaker 2: to engage and things that put these two books up.
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Speaker 12: That they have not given one, not an iota of reason,
37:57
Speaker 12: and they've just seen so straight through. Well, I think
38:05
Speaker 12: you've got a very optimistic view of this particular commission.
38:10
Speaker 12: I mean, really, what the.
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Speaker 2: Commission is long for that I've seen this com action.
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Speaker 2: This is Roger, I've seen this commission in action. And
38:19
Speaker 2: I tell you what, The Whole Truth is absolutely not
38:22
Speaker 2: what they want. And that is why a book called
38:25
Speaker 2: The Whole Truth is like, you know, garlic to a vampire.
38:32
Speaker 2: What what can for yous do to help you on
38:34
Speaker 2: this one? Apart from buying your book, I think they
38:37
Speaker 2: need to go to the Whole Truth website. Is it
38:40
Speaker 2: dot org or dot com? It's dot org. Isn't it
38:42
Speaker 2: the whole truth dot org?
38:43
Speaker 12: No, it's it's dot au.
38:46
Speaker 2: So it's the whole dot au.
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Speaker 12: Sorry, it's it's the whole truth dot au.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for doing that. And if people forget that,
38:59
Speaker 2: then go to my friends the Robinson's bookshop, go to
39:03
Speaker 2: my recommendations on the left hand side of the page,
39:05
Speaker 2: and they are also stocking it. I tell you what,
39:08
Speaker 2: You've already got a best seller of status out of this. Roger,
39:11
Speaker 2: was surprising what you started to work on this. But
39:15
Speaker 2: there is such a hunger for the whole truth now
39:19
Speaker 2: about our past. Thank you very much for coming in
39:22
Speaker 2: and all the best. Keep us in touch, keep in
39:24
Speaker 2: touch about how your legal actually goes. I can't wait
39:27
Speaker 2: to hear it. That was Roger Pescott doing this for
39:31
Speaker 2: the public interest, and I think it's doing a great job.
39:34
Speaker 2: After the break, Anthony Alven easy plays Love Birds for
39:37
Speaker 2: votes doesn't work. The movie Conclave is in the running
39:47
Speaker 2: for the Best Picture Oscar this year. It's just one
39:49
Speaker 2: of the British bafter for Best Picture and it's all
39:53
Speaker 2: about the choosing of new pope, you know, the voting
39:55
Speaker 2: and scheming after the old one dies. Needless to say,
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Speaker 2: the Conservatives are the bad guys in this movie, when
40:02
Speaker 2: in literal fact, John Paul TiO very conservative foe of communism,
40:09
Speaker 2: he was a saint, literally a saint. And now a
40:12
Speaker 2: lot of Conservatives may actually get a chance again to
40:14
Speaker 2: get a good leader because to be brutally frank, Pope
40:17
Speaker 2: Francis is even sicker than usual, is now in hospital
40:21
Speaker 2: with pneumonia in both lungs, is eighty eight. We wish
40:23
Speaker 2: him the best. Joining me are Daniel Wilde, Deputy Executive
40:27
Speaker 2: Director and the Institute of Public Affairs at Jervonton Ninni
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Speaker 2: Communications consultant Constant Australian scot is reading an all round
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Speaker 2: good person. Jemma. Being raised in the Catholic faith, you
40:41
Speaker 2: may well know this have an opinion count to demand.
40:45
Speaker 2: I don't know. The Pope has been of the left.
40:47
Speaker 2: We've seen donations fall away, interest in the church fall away,
40:51
Speaker 2: dissent grow. I know that Cardinal pell was very concerned
40:55
Speaker 2: that France has gone very soft and China's persecution of
40:58
Speaker 2: Christians in a secret deal that I think disgusting. Now,
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Speaker 2: God forbid that Francis does die anytime soon. But do
41:05
Speaker 2: you think the church is really for change?
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Speaker 13: Look at fun fact, Andrew.
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Speaker 14: I was actually a five year old girl in Italy
41:11
Speaker 14: when Pope John Paul the First passed away and Pope
41:14
Speaker 14: John Paul the Second was selected. I remember watching with
41:16
Speaker 14: my Gemma, who I'm named after, that puff of white
41:19
Speaker 14: smoke coming out of the Vatican window to tell everyone
41:22
Speaker 14: and your pope had been selected. Look, I'm not a
41:25
Speaker 14: practicing Catholic anymore. I'm a non denominational Christian, but I
41:28
Speaker 14: as an observer of the church, and I would say
41:31
Speaker 14: that this pope has been incredibly political, and I'm not
41:35
Speaker 14: quite passed. The wrapping baby Jesus in a kafir at
41:38
Speaker 14: Christmas time just gone. So look, I think I think
41:42
Speaker 14: wobatide the person who likes to stray from Scripture.
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Speaker 13: I don't know.
41:45
Speaker 14: I don't like to hold myself up in that regard
41:47
Speaker 14: by any means. And again, I'm not a practicing Catholic anymore,
41:52
Speaker 14: but I would say by observation, Pope Francis has been
41:55
Speaker 14: controversial because he's been so political and has leaned towards
41:59
Speaker 14: what we would describe as the woke, and.
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Speaker 2: Climate change in particular etc. Just used to drive capital
42:07
Speaker 2: pill nuts. What do you make of all this, Daniel,
42:10
Speaker 2: I mean the Catholic Church has actually been a really
42:15
Speaker 2: important force for good, particularly jump all two. I mean,
42:19
Speaker 2: it's just sensational what he helped achieve, the fall of
42:22
Speaker 2: the Soviet Union and all that kind of thing. I
42:25
Speaker 2: couldn't imagine him giving into China like this one Pope
42:28
Speaker 2: as what are you looking forward to?
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Speaker 6: Well? I agree about John Paul the second. I mean,
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Speaker 6: he helped save the West. He understood the perennial battle,
42:38
Speaker 6: spiritual battles between good and evil and how they play
42:41
Speaker 6: out in the human world. And he very much understood
42:43
Speaker 6: communism for what it was, which was an evil, totalitarian
42:46
Speaker 6: force that needed to be defeated. He was very clear
42:49
Speaker 6: about that. I think it gets to this issue, Andrew,
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Speaker 6: whether it's Catholic or the broader I think Christian denomination
42:55
Speaker 6: of the dichotomy between the leaders and the rank and
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Speaker 6: file in Australia with the voice to Parliament, where many
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Speaker 6: religious leaders supported the Voice, but the rank and file
43:05
Speaker 6: voted no. About seventy percent of religious Australians voted no
43:08
Speaker 6: to the Voice. Now, yes, there were a lot of
43:11
Speaker 6: very courageous religious leaders who said quite sensibly that the
43:16
Speaker 6: Bible teachers were all equal in the eyes of God,
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Speaker 6: So how can you support racial division? It never made
43:21
Speaker 6: sense of the rank and file. So, you know, it's
43:23
Speaker 6: a thing we've been coming to, which is the disconnect,
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Speaker 6: whether it's in the religious area or many other areas
43:28
Speaker 6: of civil society between those that are sort of at
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Speaker 6: the commanding heights and those who are actually paying up
43:34
Speaker 6: and sitting in the pews every Sunday morning. So there
43:37
Speaker 6: does need to be changed. Whether that comes immediately, I
43:40
Speaker 6: don't know, but certainly there's a lot of discontent among
43:43
Speaker 6: the rank and file.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And people in the Vatican have been telling
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Speaker 2: me too, there's lack of enthusiasm under this leadership. The
43:52
Speaker 2: election around the corner. Jemma, I know you've got a
43:56
Speaker 2: soft heart, so you're probably going to approve of this.
44:00
Speaker 2: Easy is using his fiance Jody Hayden, to soften his image.
44:04
Speaker 2: Last week, they performed this Q and A for Valentine's Day?
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Speaker 11: Who reached out first?
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Speaker 13: Who dresses the best?
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Speaker 8: This is fi, Who's the most stubborn, Who's the biggest
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Speaker 8: Bunny fan?
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Speaker 14: Both of us?
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Speaker 13: I think who said I love you first?
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Speaker 9: Same time?
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Speaker 13: Same time? It was definitely the same time.
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Speaker 2: And Jerry. If that wasn't enough, Jody has given an
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Speaker 2: exclusive to Woman's Day her relationship with alb it easy,
44:43
Speaker 2: including a wedding plans which since will be small and intimate,
44:46
Speaker 2: possibly outdoors in the second half of this year, with
44:49
Speaker 2: the family and loved ones. And you've be sure total
44:51
Speaker 2: of the dog will make it a appearance. Does this
44:53
Speaker 2: stuff work?
44:55
Speaker 13: I love to surprise you, Andrew.
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Speaker 14: It's funny you should bring this up today because a
44:59
Speaker 14: straw pole of my closest girlfriends had us all running
45:02
Speaker 14: for the nearest bucket. Look, I really genuinely no, I
45:06
Speaker 14: genuinely wish Showedy the best and them as a couple
45:09
Speaker 14: the best. But he's the prime minister of a country
45:14
Speaker 14: that is in turmoil objectively, economically, very very challenged socially.
45:20
Speaker 14: We are in the darkest days in generations. I don't
45:24
Speaker 14: care about his wedding plans. I couldn't care less about
45:27
Speaker 14: his wedding plans. I wish them well. I wish them
45:29
Speaker 14: a happy marriage and a long and happy life together.
45:33
Speaker 14: But he's not paid to talk about his wedding plans,
45:36
Speaker 14: and I couldn't care less focus on the job at hand.
45:39
Speaker 14: You know, he has the hat that says Prime Minister
45:42
Speaker 14: on it. And the funny thing about it, Andrew is
45:44
Speaker 14: when I saw that headline this morning, I had an
45:46
Speaker 14: instant visceral reaction where I was like, I don't care, mate,
45:49
Speaker 14: get on with the job.
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Speaker 13: I don't care. Don't try and soften us up like
45:52
Speaker 13: a bunch of chumps to.
45:53
Speaker 14: Get all starry eyed about your wedding that may or
45:56
Speaker 14: may not happen at the end of the year. Go
45:58
Speaker 14: with God, be happy, have a great marriage, but run
46:00
Speaker 14: the damn country and focus on the job in front
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Speaker 14: of you.
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Speaker 13: Stop trying to take us for granted.
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Speaker 2: Wow, I think he needs aspect dises to hear that.
46:11
Speaker 2: But Daniel, it's not his fault. He wouldn't have known
46:14
Speaker 2: in advance, although he wouldn't know that the strings are
46:16
Speaker 2: doing it tough. But for this to come out on
46:18
Speaker 2: the day that Wayelo goes belly up. I mean the
46:20
Speaker 2: Buyala Steel Works, not a good look.
46:25
Speaker 6: Well, no it's not. I mean, look on Wyla. I
46:29
Speaker 6: mean this is a disaster. I mean, this is what
46:31
Speaker 6: happens when labor controls something for so long. Now they're
46:34
Speaker 6: pushing the hydrogen hoax on Tuyala. Well, there's no jobs
46:38
Speaker 6: going to be coming from that, Andrew, there's no jobs there.
46:41
Speaker 6: And you know this was the state government here in
46:44
Speaker 6: South Australia that blew up their coal fire power station
46:47
Speaker 6: out of an act of ideological zealotry. And they know
46:51
Speaker 6: that they've done the wrong thing. They've been hanging onto
46:53
Speaker 6: this hydrogen idea for many years. They pretend that renewables
46:58
Speaker 6: are powering the state. Well I tell you what, if
47:00
Speaker 6: renewables are powering South Australia, why doesn't the premiere go
47:03
Speaker 6: down to the interconnected with Victoria and cut it off
47:07
Speaker 6: in a Why he doesn't do that because the lights
47:09
Speaker 6: will go out. South Australia is powered by Victorian brown coal.
47:13
Speaker 6: That is what happens when you have these net zero fantasies.
47:15
Speaker 6: The jobs are gone, the communities are wiped out, and
47:18
Speaker 6: now Anthony Alberneze is coming in pumping you know how
47:21
Speaker 6: much more? Hundreds of millions billions of dollars into this
47:24
Speaker 6: hoax that doesn't work. It just shows Andrew we need
47:26
Speaker 6: coal and we need gas and we need our leaders
47:28
Speaker 6: to be honest with Australia. Is that this doesn't work?
47:34
Speaker 2: Well, you talk about a wedding, is it going to
47:37
Speaker 2: turn you change your mind on that? I've bit seriously,
47:40
Speaker 2: You're absolutely correct, Jemma just quickly also making a big
47:44
Speaker 2: announcement today or yesterday's Mega Markel Fritz Harry's wife finally
47:49
Speaker 2: launching or relaunching a new business flogging food kitchen were
47:52
Speaker 2: and cookbooks issuears in two weeks.
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Speaker 15: My show is coming out, which I'm so excited for.
47:58
Speaker 15: And also my business Netflix came on not just as
48:02
Speaker 15: my partner in the show, but as my partner in
48:04
Speaker 15: my business. And it's called as Ever as Ever essentially
48:08
Speaker 15: means as it's always been.
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Speaker 2: It's just gonna make it make a good money.
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Speaker 13: I don't I don't care about Megan Michael.
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Speaker 14: I'm the worst person who ask couldn't care less, couldn't
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Speaker 14: care less.
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Speaker 13: Maybe she will, maybe she won't. Couldn't care less.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I suspect that's a know. Then well there you go.
48:31
Speaker 2: You started saving the world. And I was just just
48:32
Speaker 2: trying to sell your jams. I think it's a bit
48:34
Speaker 2: of a comdown Jimntoni need Dan your well. Thank you
48:37
Speaker 2: very much to you both. That's it from me, coming
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Speaker 2: up now. Sherry Maxon