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Business is about to pick up! · Making The Merge - Survivor Podcast

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  Speaker 1: That's right, baby, Welcome to the sanctuary. Business is about
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  Speaker 1: to pick up in Survivor. Do you think business is
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: about to pick up? I feel like businesses have been
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  Speaker 1: on the decline a little bit the past couple of weeks. Really,
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  Speaker 1: we went from Cedric, Say and Mary having the most
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: chaotic tribal councils ever. So then like when you go
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  Speaker 1: back to regular Survivor after that, it just feels like
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, like not as intense.
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  Speaker 2: I think that it's a necessary lull in the action
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  Speaker 2: to help set up some some major stuff, because you know,
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  Speaker 2: if we get a crazy tribal council every single episode,
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  Speaker 2: it won't feel special when something crazy happens, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. If the whole season was the first
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  Speaker 1: three episodes, then whatever happens next season, we'd be like,
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: this is the worst season ever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it just I mean, and I've been
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  Speaker 2: enjoying the episodes. I don't even think they've been bad episodes.
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  Speaker 2: It's just they've been normal Survivor gameplay. There hasn't been
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  Speaker 2: like insane choices from someone like Cedric.
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  Speaker 1: There's been nobody voting for every person on their tribe.
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  Speaker 1: Right right, we started off so crazy. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like Bonu, you had to come back down to earth
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  Speaker 1: a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it will get crazy again. I
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  Speaker 2: think because the merge is usually when the seasons pick
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  Speaker 2: up and get hot.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, Yeah, I think Chrissy might have, you know, kick
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  Speaker 1: started business picking up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to get into the episode nine sneak previews. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into it. I'm seeing you, but I'm chilling.
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  Speaker 3: I'm super super good.
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  Speaker 4: Chrissy went home because she tried to take a.
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  Speaker 3: Very early stab at someone that she shouldn't have.
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  Speaker 4: Me.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why she can't be.
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  Speaker 3: She seemed to be very upset with all the muscles
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know how that ended up being mad
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  Speaker 3: at me. I felt like I tried my back and
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure I did not battle.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, every single person voted for Chrissy except for Prissy.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't think that it was unanimous in their hearts.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was unanimous in the many.
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  Speaker 1: What's she coming after Shaheen?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think so either. I think he shah
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  Speaker 1: Hean's flattering himself a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he thinks he's the main character when
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  Speaker 2: he was kind of an afterthought in that episode. I
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  Speaker 2: mean it looked like he might have gone home, but
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  Speaker 2: it was very apparent everyone voted for Chrissy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I think what he's referring to is
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  Speaker 1: that Chrissy decided to put her vote on him, so
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  Speaker 1: he thought that everything she said was just about him.
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  Speaker 2: See. And here's one thing, and I think most Survivor
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  Speaker 2: players are aware of it. But all I would be
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  Speaker 2: able to do if I noticed that the person that
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  Speaker 2: we all sent home wrote my name down, I would
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  Speaker 2: have been like, Okay, who told her to put my
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  Speaker 2: name down? Yeah? Because she had to have thought he
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  Speaker 2: was with the majority too.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there was a comment from somebody, I mean
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  Speaker 1: only has one like, so take it with a grain
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  Speaker 1: of salt. But I don't know my user name five
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  Speaker 1: nine eight nine on YouTube says the editors love dunking
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  Speaker 1: on Shaheen, constant bad reads, and now Goofy music. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why some people still think he's winning.
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  Speaker 2: That is an interesting point that forgot my user name
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  Speaker 2: brings up.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: They are kind of making him look a little silly,
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  Speaker 2: whereas David was kind of being treated as the dumb
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  Speaker 2: himbo earlier in this season. Now it's like David is
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  Speaker 2: this like villain character. So it's interesting how they're playing
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  Speaker 2: around with the different kind of arcs.
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  Speaker 1: Yea, So Shaheen has turned a little goofyer maybe, and
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  Speaker 1: then David is like the roided up villain.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: But I think we're gonna hear a little bit from
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  Speaker 1: David in this next sneak preview.
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  Speaker 2: Is like, I've been so straight up at all that
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  Speaker 2: it's hard for me.
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  Speaker 3: I think Chrissy was not part of that land about it,
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  Speaker 3: which is why they're okay, boy, go out.
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  Speaker 1: But Conella was, which is day was so strong.
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  Speaker 3: I felt switching in to Chrissy, and which is why
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  Speaker 3: they did it in the last minute.
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  Speaker 4: Then you went back on.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Paus's David. I can barely hear you, brother.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, brother, why are you whispering?
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  Speaker 1: I'm playing this at full volume and you're still unintelligible.
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  Speaker 2: Someone's gonna overhear you.
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  Speaker 1: You're on TV, brother, All right, let's keep going.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I liked at the dinner it seemed pretty clear that
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  Speaker 3: it was Camila, and you know, at the last minute
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  Speaker 3: he convinced Christian group decided pretty boop, they haven't never
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  Speaker 3: done that or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like you.
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  Speaker 3: Ocast, I'm just trying to blame I wanted to this.
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  Speaker 3: We're so cold, I know, but you're telling me that
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  Speaker 3: I went back on all ways not the way the
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  Speaker 3: world well never, so you gotta look at it my
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  Speaker 3: perspective back. I'm not saying it was delivered. I don't
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  Speaker 3: like to boy.
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  Speaker 5: Survivor.
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  Speaker 1: So that was I mean, if you couldn't understand any
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  Speaker 1: of that, Like I had trouble in the beginning. That
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  Speaker 1: was Joe and David having a conversation where David is like,
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  Speaker 1: you went back on your word, and then Joe refuted
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  Speaker 1: that about ten times in a row. Yeah, So I
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  Speaker 1: think that riffed between all of us that who is
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  Speaker 1: it that Kyle and Joe talked about. It's going to fruition.
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  Speaker 2: And I think there's pretty solid lines drawn in the sand. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be a surprise what
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  Speaker 2: happens when this alliance falls out. I think it's very
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  Speaker 2: obviously going to be David versus Joe, and Joe has Kyle,
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  Speaker 2: Joe has Eva, Joe has Camilla. You know, he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: know that, but because Kyle has Camilla, Joe has Camilla,
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  Speaker 2: and then on the other side you have David, who
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  Speaker 2: apparently is like tagged teamed up with Mary and they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna I guess use the the the rest of the
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  Speaker 2: players that the main alliance is forgetting about, which is
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  Speaker 2: you know, Mitch and Star.
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  Speaker 1: So David, he's still caught up on the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he wanted Camilla gone and it was Chrissy. So now
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  Speaker 1: he's trying to get Joe to admit it, like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you changed the plan. But I mean I believe Joe
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  Speaker 1: that the whole group changed the plan.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was pretty apparent when yeah, yeah, And
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure what David is alluding to is something that
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  Speaker 2: maybe we'll see in the episode, like like you know
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  Speaker 2: how sometimes the episode starts with like a flashback of
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  Speaker 2: what happened right before Tribal. I wonder if they just
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  Speaker 2: strong armed David and said, look, we're all voting Chrissy,
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  Speaker 2: so we either jump on the plane or don't. And
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  Speaker 2: maybe that's what he's upset about. But I mean, even
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  Speaker 2: when he was trying to make the switch to Camilla
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  Speaker 2: and everyone in his alliance was like, hey, man, we're doing,
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  Speaker 2: We're doing Chris. I mean, Joe immediately sided with uh Kyle.
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  Speaker 2: When Shaheen was asked about it, he was like, why
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  Speaker 2: are we why are we switching up? Let's just do
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  Speaker 2: what we plan. Let's do Chrissy. You know, like it
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  Speaker 2: just at what point did him thinking that Kyle was
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  Speaker 2: turning on them become David was turning on his own, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know what I mean? Yeah, I'm not sure, But what
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  Speaker 1: I do know is that taking out Chrissy when Camilla
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  Speaker 1: is there is stupid. Like as much as I was
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  Speaker 1: crashing out about it, was a big mistake because they're
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  Speaker 1: they're bringing it up and I'm getting really angry, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting angry because she's my draft pick. It's the
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  Speaker 1: smart move to get rid of Camilla there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, And that's what we were talking about on
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  Speaker 2: the main pod last week, is like David was one
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  Speaker 2: in the right, but it's just like, you know the
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  Speaker 2: way you come across and you know the way that
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  Speaker 2: people have their fan favorites. Camilla is a fan favorite.
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  Speaker 1: And then Chrissy being too outspoken is what was her
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  Speaker 1: downfall there, obviously, But I think the difference between Chrissy
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  Speaker 1: and Camilla is that Chrissy was very loud about her intentions,
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  Speaker 1: and Camilla has been like a secret undercover agent for
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  Speaker 1: the past eight weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, playing in the shadows, playing in the background.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask about somebody else who's kind of
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  Speaker 1: playing in the background right now, and that's Mary.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, as much as we all hate it, I
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  Speaker 1: wish they would just give us Mary content, even if
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't play a pivotal role. Just give me ten
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  Speaker 1: minutes of Mary scenes.
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  Speaker 2: Just I know that her confessionals are always going to
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  Speaker 2: be baller. Just put a little bit of Mary in
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  Speaker 2: the episode.
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  Speaker 1: Man, Like, even if the plan is not about her,
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  Speaker 1: have her explain what somebody else's plan is. Cut them
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  Speaker 1: out of the show, like cut David out of the show,
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  Speaker 1: and just have Mary talk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very interested to see what that means, right,
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  Speaker 2: because obviously the show was very Mary heavy for the
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  Speaker 2: first three episodes. Then we got very little Mary for
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  Speaker 2: the for the next little bit right before the merge,
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  Speaker 2: which I took is a good thing because I was like,
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  Speaker 2: if Mary is at the forefront of all of these episodes,
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  Speaker 2: she is not going to be lasting long, like like
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  Speaker 2: say Say was at the forefront of pretty much every
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  Speaker 2: single episode, even if it had nothing to do with her,
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  Speaker 2: and it essentially just meant, you know, she's not here
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  Speaker 2: for the long haul. But now it's getting a little
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  Speaker 2: bit worrisome for me because I have Mary on my team.
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  Speaker 2: You know, If I don't start seeing Mary make some
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  Speaker 2: big moves and be kind of a key part of
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  Speaker 2: the episodes, I don't know how much longer she's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be here.
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  Speaker 1: If Mary was a zero vote finalist, I would be
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  Speaker 1: upset about that.
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  Speaker 2: I would be too, because usually the zero vote finalist
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  Speaker 2: is the person that everyone's like, they probably shouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: even made it this far. But Mary, I think, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's the thing that's a little frustrating is we haven't
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  Speaker 2: gotten to see her game play, you know what I mean. Like,
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  Speaker 2: and I would never speak ill of Mother Mary.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't speak ill of Mother Mary either. However, I
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  Speaker 1: gotta keep it real on making the merge, just like
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  Speaker 1: Mother Mary keeps it real. And I think Mary, I
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: think Mary has questionable taste in men, obviously, like we've
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  Speaker 1: all heard the song Shoot and then she's aligned with David.
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  Speaker 1: She also did a collab post with Johnny Fairplay these are.
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  Speaker 2: All horrible men.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm not gonna say David's a horrible man, but
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  Speaker 1: I'll say villains. Yeah, I'll say Johnny Fairplay is a
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  Speaker 1: horrible man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, hey man, it's what a what a man
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  Speaker 2: thing for you to do to where there's three villain
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  Speaker 2: men and you're like, maybe the woman's the problem.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if there's three villain men, maybe the
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  Speaker 1: woman should, you know, walk the other direction.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, man. I think Mary can do no wrong.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I think. And I think Mary. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm changing it up because now you've got me in
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  Speaker 2: full gimmick brother. I was being real. Now I'm in
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  Speaker 2: full gimmick brother. Mary's gonna win it all. Mary's gonna
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  Speaker 2: take everybody out. She's playing double agent role on David. Dude,
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  Speaker 2: she's not even with David. She's just messing with the
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  Speaker 2: it's head so that she can leave him in the trailer,
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  Speaker 2: just like David's real life girlfriend.
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  Speaker 1: Ah. You know what, I agree with your rant to
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  Speaker 1: some extent, but I think that Mary. I used to
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  Speaker 1: say stuff like Mary could do no wrong, but then
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  Speaker 1: Mary started targeting Camilla, and then, in my eyes, that's
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  Speaker 1: the number one wrong thing you could do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where this is where the draft really
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  Speaker 2: interferes with who we are as people.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like, we've all we've had conversations with Mary.
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  Speaker 1: We all like very very much, very very much. We
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  Speaker 1: like her Mary much.
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  Speaker 2: We like her Mary much, dude.
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  Speaker 1: We have all participated in making Mary propaganda for the
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  Speaker 1: past couple of months. That has racked up a lot
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  Speaker 1: of views. I mean, we probably promoted her her single
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  Speaker 1: better than she.
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  Speaker 2: Did, probably, man and and yeah. But at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day, what we care about before anything else
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  Speaker 2: is winning the making the Merge fantasy draft. Yes, it's
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  Speaker 2: all we care about. We would put real life relationships
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  Speaker 2: on the line.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to win
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: Jody newle cups.
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  Speaker 2: Okay exactly. I openly harass one of our co hosts
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  Speaker 2: on a weekly basis because of how seriously I take
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  Speaker 2: this draft. You think you think I won't throw someone
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  Speaker 2: under the bus for Mother Mary. I'll kill a man
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  Speaker 2: for Mother Mary. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I might not go that far, but I would like
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  Speaker 1: do credit card fraud for Mary.
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  Speaker 2: Hey man, That's where I draw the line.
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  Speaker 1: But speaking of Mary, I have a deleted scene from
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  Speaker 1: Mary in the episode Let's hear it, dude, So let's
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  Speaker 1: hear from our favorite mother.
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  Speaker 6: Tonight is when people have to make a move, especially Shahin,
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  Speaker 6: who has been cozying up to Camilla a lot. But
• 12:52
  Speaker 6: at the reward, Joe's just like whipping and seeing like,
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  Speaker 6: you guys, gotta relax, My guy, you can't relax.
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  Speaker 3: I think we're good.
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  Speaker 1: It's so good.
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  Speaker 3: So if somebody's gonna make a move, it's gonna happen tonight.
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  Speaker 2: David feels it.
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  Speaker 1: He's intuitive.
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  Speaker 2: I feel it.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: I'm intuitive.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: I would not be the last girl.
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  Speaker 6: Is standing if I were not intuitive. You should not
• 13:12
  Speaker 6: trust Shaheen. He's setting things up to work with Camilla
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  Speaker 6: to start a coup and get rid of us, like
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  Speaker 6: something is afoot.
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  Speaker 1: So obviously, once again, absolutely correct about the whole Situationally, yeah, but.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like it's almost like no one can do
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  Speaker 2: anything about it. That's how good of a plan that
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: Camilla has put in place, like and Kyle. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: not to discredit Kyle, but I think that Camilla is
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: truly the mastermind of the two.
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  Speaker 1: I know, and when I picked Camilla, I didn't have
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  Speaker 1: enough to go off of to think she's a strategic mastermind.
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  Speaker 1: I just yeah, all it was was she wants to
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: throw Charity under the bus and she likes holes. And
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: I saw that and I was like, I like this kid,
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: she's got moxie.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: You know. The Sanctuary is where we kind of you know,
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: we treat our main podcast almost like a hyper active
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: a hyper reality an exaggeration, right, We're kind of playing
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: characters to a certain extent. It's like the pro wrestling
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: affication of a Survivor podcast.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: I say things I regret almost weekly about control.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and it's because it's all for entertainment. But
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: the Sanctuary is where I think we can get a
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: little bit, We get a little bit more chill, and
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: we talk what we really believe. And I said something
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: to you over the phone the other day that I
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  Speaker 2: want to bring up right here because I truly believe this,
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  Speaker 2: no no jokes. I think Camilla is the one percent
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  Speaker 2: obvious winner of this season. And it's proven already, I.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Think, and if it doesn't happen, it'll be a little
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: bit disappointing. I think if it's not Eva, because I'm like,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: who has had the Rachel esque edit of this season? Right,
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: And it's Camilla and Eva and not so much Joe,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: but maybe to a lesser extent Joe well.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Y, yeah, I mean Joe has a little bit more
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: of a traditional story right from the survivor's standpoint. Camilla's
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: edit you mentioned almost it being like Rachel's. It almost
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: doesn't even feel like Rachel because Rachel was such an
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: underdog for a big chunk of the season. Camilla, I think,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: has had a firm pulse on the game from day one,
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  Speaker 2: Like it's like she's been set. She set things up
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: in the first couple episodes that are coming to fruition
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: all of this time later after the merge. It's like
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: she's one of the smartest Survivor players we've seen in
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: a really long time. I think maybe I'm looking too
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: deep in it.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't think you are, because I've been
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: saying it pretty much every time she gets any screen time.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like, amazing moment by Camilla, amazing confessional, amazing answer,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: he had, great strategy, great acting performance. It's like she
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: doesn't do anything bad.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: I actually sent you a prediction of like what I
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: think the rest of the season is, and so I
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: want it on the record. So I'm gonna go ahead
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: and read it out on the show because if I
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: get this right, then I'm a genius. And even though
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: I will not win the Cup, I still get bonus points.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: But if you get it wrong, listeners, DM Chase, hold
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: him accountable.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, this is my prediction for the rest
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: of the season. Kyle uses Joe, Shaheen and that whole
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: alliance and they turn on David and send him home.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Then with David gone, Kyle and Camilla use the numbers
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: of Star, Mary and Mitch to get the numbers and
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: start picking off the strong alliance one by one, probably
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: starting with Joe or Shaheen. Then they will take Star
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: to the Final three with them. It will be a
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Kyle Camilla Star Final three. Kyle gets flustered at final
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: tribal and Camilla explains her position well as she always does.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Camilla wins by two votes. Star is a zero vote finalist.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Hate that for Star, but I would love it for
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: me for the Camilla Park. I like the prediction, I
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, especially because I win in it. But I
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: think I think it checks out. I think it's all
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: been leading to h Kyle and Camilla taking over.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I do too, now I would love to be wrong
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: in Mary to team up with someone like Mitch or
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Star and they like turn the whole game on its head.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I would love for that to be right, because I
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: want Mary to win, obviously, but I also have Mitch
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: on my team, and let's talk about that for a second.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Mitch almost feels like he's not even in the game anymore.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: He feels like an afterthought Star as well. But Mitch
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: was such a major character at the beginning of this season,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: and now it's like, what is Mitch up to?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Well, That's what I'm wondering now. It feels like the
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: three people who have taken a major backseat, Mary, Mitch
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: is Star. It's like, is it just gonna be like
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: a roulette wheel, or like one of them is the
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: one that's like, all right, let's take them and we
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: can beat them and they get zero votes.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: And it's also a testament to how good this season
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: is and how good this cast is, to where it's like,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: even the players that aren't doing anything right now are
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: still some of the most memorable of the whole season.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: And I really hope we don't get minutes of Mary
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of next week because then it'll be
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: like a dead giveaway.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, situation. I'll be very upset if Mary goes home
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: this upcoming week.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I mean it's horrible. It's a horrible day or week
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: for Catholics because Mary, she might go home and the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: pope just died.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm gonna be honest, I will be more
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: upset about Mary going home.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Me too.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: If you're Catholic, we apologize. Yeah, but a mother Mary
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: means a lot more than me. Amen. Brother.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: There was another scene. I'm not gonna play it because
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason it got deleted. It was
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: a Kyle and Chrissy idol hunt where they didn't end
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: up finding an idol. That's an easy one to take
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: out of the edit bay.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's very interesting how hard kyleile was
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: going because I guess his back was against the wall
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: and it was going to be Camilla and he had
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: to do whatever he could to save Camilla. Y Kristen
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: brought up an interesting point in our group chat today
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: where she goes, I wonder who's going to turn on
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: who between Camilla and Kyle, and I don't think they're
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: going to turn on each other. But then it made
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: me start thinking, and I was like, if one of
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: them was to turn on the other, It's very clearly
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: that Kyle is not going to ever turn on Camilla.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: He put his own game at severe risk last week
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: to do whatever he could to keep Camilla in the game.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know if Camilla would have done the same.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Hmm, that's interesting. I mean they do have the Holes
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: movie thing, and they're both Guyanese, and I feel like
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: that was a really strong bond, so who knows. But
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: the other thing is that Joe. I think Eva maybe
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: would be more likely to backstab Joe because, as we
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: heard Joe say in that other scene, like ten times,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I never go back on my word. He gave Eva
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: his word from the very beginning.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I would be shocked if Eva turned on Joe. But yeah,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: out of the two possibilities, yeah, Joe would is not
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: going to backstab Evil. If he did, he would become
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: a huge villain and it might be exactly what Survivor
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: needs and it would be awesome, but it would be
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: pretty rough. Dude. He's like, he backstabs Eva, sends her home,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: rips his shirt off. He's wearing an RFK Junior T
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: shirt underneath then he just starts flexing his muscles and
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: drinking milk.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Hey shout out to me. I guess I had a
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: comment on Eva's post that got three point something thousand likes.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: It was about RFK. I'm not gonna read it. If
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: you want to go see it, go find it. Yeah, nerds,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I'm upset a little bit based off the preview because
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: there was another one that we didn't play where Shaw
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: he notices Eva's gone and that's real bad for me.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Explain that, Why is that bad for you?
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Well, because he goes to Joe, he's like, hey, man,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Eva's missing, and then he's in a confessional saying like, hey,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: the game is like it's just beginning, like, oh you
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: want to play, We're got play.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: So you take that almost to mean she's the target
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: as soon as that's like, they're gonna target her to
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: get the idol gone and then if they can, you know,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: the next week, just get her out of the game.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Joe's not gonna do that though, no he won't. But no,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Joe's not gonna go along with that. And that's what's
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: so interesting about the numbers right now is you've got
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: three people that are just available numbers, and I'm so
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: curious to see who's going to be the first person
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: to grab star Mitch and Mary's votes.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: You know, you know, David and Mary are a package deal,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: so they have to also align themselves with David if
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: they want to do that. But Mary seems like she'd
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: be flexible.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think Mary has because I've been seeing
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: this online all week and it's been driving me nuts,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: where people are like, I guess Mary's just in love
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: with David, and I'm like, we.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Did brand said something David was in love with Mary.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. But it's just like it was
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: one episode where David Mary kind of teamed up.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think the idea about Camilla needs to be
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the one.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Mary would switch to the I mean,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: obviously she switched to Chrissy last week.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: And she switched to Maga. If you if you've.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Heard, Oh man, she's gonna be so mad at you for.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: That, dude.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Mary is not Maga.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: No she's not. She loudly proclaimed that on a stage.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: It was so sad. It was so funny. I saw
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: a funny TikTok that had Mary in it. Everybody was
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: singing a song with a bunch of formica makes fantastic
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: tiktoks for it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I think she did one with Sam to a Gracie
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Abrams song that made me download the song.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Dang, she's doing promo for real artists. She he's what
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Kelly Wentmore thinks she is.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Man, So we're taking shots on the sanctuary.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Hey man, it's late. I've seen you, and hey man,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know if if any of you listeners have
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: parasocial relationships with us, which would be wild because we
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: just started this show less than six months ago. First
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: things first, you need to know I am not nice
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: all the time.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: No, and sometimes I have to do damage control. Yeah,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: like Chase will get heated about something, and then I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: have to try to bring the temperature down.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: If I can't, I get hot headed. Man, it's my roots.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I do have some chrissy exit press that I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: would like to hear it into.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: So now.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I don't have the true I wonder I wonder if
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I could just play it. Oh, oh it is in here,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: let's hear it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Rusty, bet you.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Didn't think you were gonna hear that again. But one
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: last time, well, actually the one last time is gonna
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: be Final Tribal and then the reunion show and then
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: it's over forever.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: That's true. That's true because she is on the jury brother.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: She is so Survivor forty eight star Chrissy Sarnowski on
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the crying and screaming we didn't see on TV, she said,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I got him so upset. That's the pull quote, and
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: it's by Patrick Gomez for Entertainment Weekly. And then another
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: thing at the top of this article, it said the
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: second jury member admits she had diarrhea of the mouth.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: She said, apparently when I go to tribal council, I
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: just have diarrhea of the mouth. I can't help it.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Everybody else is really
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: good at skirting around, and I'm just like, everything's got
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: to come out. But yeah, I had a feeling it
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: was me. Nobody was really talking to me, and I'm
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: watching the big guys, Joe, Eva, Shaheen, the big group.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: None of them really talked to me. I went to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: go try to talk to Joe and he wouldn't even
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: look at me in the face. He wouldn't even turn
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: his head to look at me. That pissed me off,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: even more. Now I see that somebody went in Joe's
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: here and told Joe that I was going after him.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: And once you tell the big dog that I'm going
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: after him, I knew that I was scraps at that point.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: So I'm just like, fuck it, I'm going out. I'm
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: throwing some names out there. I'm trying to raise some
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: awareness of what's going on, all right. So the interviewer
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: said that didn't go over well with David, and then
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Chrissy said they didn't show it, but at one point
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: David was literally yelling at me. I remember turning around, going,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: who are you yelling at? I apparently got him so upset,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: But I didn't know that David was pushing Camilla. If
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: he would have pulled me to the side and been like, Chrissy,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: it's your Camilla, my whole strategy would have changed at
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: that point.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually a fascinating point. Why didn't David try
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: to loop Chrissy in on this.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: When she was the one he was trying to say yeah,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and then she wouldn't have ranted at him, yeah, and.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Then they would have had an extra number. That's so weird.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: But I guess he just wasn't wanting to turn on
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: his alliance, so he just went with what they wanted
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: to do. That's so interesting though, it strongly seems this
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: is a question I have, and maybe you have a
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: theory about this. Why would they edit out the part
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: where David is like really yelling at her. Do they
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: want him to still be likable in case he's the winner?
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Or are they just afraid of having anyone be too
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: much of a villain.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, like they don't have a
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: problem making some other people out to be massive villains.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: So maybe maybe, yeah, you're right that maybe David makes
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: it to the end and they want to portray him differently.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, because I mean I think that would have
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: made for great TV. He was yelling at Chrissy like that,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: you know, because Chrissy comes across obnoxious in that episode
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: at the tribal, So it's like, I would have loved
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: to see the other side of it. Yeah, release the tapes, Jeff, Yeah,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: release the David David gate.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Dude, Yeah, Chrissy David Gate.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: And then also it's like from what she's saying about
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: like the big dog and you know, the big strong alliance,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: it definitely feels like the Integrity and Honor alliance. It
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: feels like they're kind of assholes out there, you know
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like they're using the honesty and the
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: It feels like a classic Survivor season with someone like
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Boston Rob or one of the other like very controlling,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: dominating alliances where there's one top dog and they have
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: a firm grasp on everything. You know, Fireman Tom from
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: way back in the day, he manipulated one of his
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: like right hand players to quitting a challenge by like
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: making them feel guilty, you know what I mean. Like
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: it's such a classic Survivor element that we've forgotten about
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: in the new era because it's all about an individual's game,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: but numbers win the season. And if you can cont
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: control people without them feeling like they're being controlled, like
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: how Joe is seemingly doing. Joe seems like the nicest
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: guy in the world, but at the end of the
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: day he does seem to be kind of like dominating
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: and controlling everything.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, going back to him shutting down Chrissy in
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: that conversation about how to pick the teams, then we
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: have him like with David not willing to budge an
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: inch in that conversation. Yeah, it's interesting, and then he
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: won't even look at Chrissy we find out.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, hearing it like this makes me think
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: they're not showing this dominating alliance being kind of assholes.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: We don't see David yelling. We're not seeing Joe kind
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: of be you know, so controlling. And I wonder if
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: it's because they don't want everyone to look like a villain.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: If the final three or four is Joe, Eva, David,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: and Shaheen.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I'm just so greatful that regardless of
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: which group comes out on top, I should have one
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: person unless unless Shaheen. This is where I said business
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: is picked up. There's a lot of conflicting interests here.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Shaheen wants to work with Camilla, He's now very suspicious
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: of Eva. Yeah, how is that gonna play out?
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, best case scenario for the world is Eva
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: wins and we have the very outspoken autistic player winning survivor.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: That's the best outcome for the universe, right is because
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I meant, put put aside the humanity of it all
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: marketing wise, having your your winner be this very outspoken, autistic,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of champion, winning the season, dominating, being
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: part of the Strong Alliance.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: So I need to say something about Chrissy. You know,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I had wanted to brainwash the audience with the Chrissy drop.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I talked about that, like the whole thing. Yeah, it
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: was manufactured. I want to get it in people's heads.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I accidentally brainwashed myself the other day. So I'm an
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Atlanta Braves fan. They have a picture named Chris Sale.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: He got a strikeout to end the inning, and I said,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: let's go Chrissy. And then as soon as I said that,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the alarm bells went off in my head.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Chrissy is pitching.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Chrissy is pitching for the Braves.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's really fun. You know, you mentioned how
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: we've been doing some you know, Mary propaganda. We love
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: pitching Mary as a hero of the people. I wonder
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: as if as the seasons go on and as the
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: years go by, how much more will the Internet have
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: an effect on what happens in the actual season, Like,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: at what point will CBS and Jeff and the producers
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: see how much one player is getting so much buzz
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: online that they hit the editing room and kind of
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: rearrange some stuff in later episodes to like capitalize on
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: the popularity of a player online, or do you think
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: that's already something that they do.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think they care at all about that, Honestly,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think Jeff. I don't think Jeff even looks
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: at the stuff online and he's probably yeah, I'm sure
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: somebody the interns are maybe or the but Jeff, I
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: bet it's like a very insulated thing when when they're
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: putting all that together and going through all that stuff,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: it's probably not too much outside noise coming in because
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: there can't be, because I think Jeff is very much
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: like if you ever listen to Jeff, Jeff knows exactly
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: what he wants to do, and he doesn't care how
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: you feel about it unless there is like overwhelming backlash
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: to an idea or something.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to say something that might be controversial,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I think Jeff is.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Right every time, and that's really controversial. I can feel
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: people like, even in our audience, they're probably like Jeff,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: he's out of touch, old man. And I heard somebody
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: call it. It was Shane Powers. He said, it's not
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Survivor anymore. It's Jeff's Island funhouse. And I'm like, hey,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: sign me up. I love the fun House.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand why people act like it's still
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: not difficult. If you go back and binge all the
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Survivor seasons, you will notice those first ten or so
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: it's like they're starving food and starving is such a
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: major part of the show. After twenty years, twenty five years,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: it would get boring if every season it's just they're hungry.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: They're so hungry out there they have to switch it hard.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: That's what it used to be.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a well established fact they're hungry. People bitch
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: and moan about it being shorter days. That has nothing
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: to do with like they're like, we're making it easier
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: for the players. It's a production thing. Would you rather
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: have no Survivor or a little bit less days of Survivor?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: You know, they're trying to save money, they're not pulling
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: the same advertisement or television is not the same place
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: it was ten years ago. So either you get Survivor
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: or you don't get Survivor.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And I want Survivor me too, brother, And I've been
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: saying it all along, but like, whether they're out there
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: for twenty days or one hundred days. It's the same
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: amount of episodes on the season, so it does not
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: affect me one bit.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: And we get longer episodes now.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we do get more Survivor than ever.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so everybody just needs everybody, man, I I.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: We're getting too ripped up. This is where good pots
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I can remember I didn't work though.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: It's just infuriating how whenever there's a fan of something,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: like if you're a fan of something like it, it's
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: it's like fans get to be fans to the point
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: where they hate the thing that they're watching.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: But I mean, on the flip side of that, you
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: can't tell me to like Saint Anger, Like Metallica's worst
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: album is Garbage is the worst records I've ever made.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's seasons of Survivor. I don't like. There's recent
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: seasons of Survivor. I don't like.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I have another point about that that, like, it seems
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: like if somebody's favorite goes home, or if a couple
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: people they really like to go home, they start to
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: turn on the season as a whole. And I think
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: about to me, Survivor is a sport and my team
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't win every year. But I don't say this sport
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: is horrible. Everything about the sport needs to change to
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: accommodate the Pittsburgh Steelers, because that's what I want. You know.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very interesting because you can you can look
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: at Survivor in different ways. You see it as a sport.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I watch it like it's a drama, you know what
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, Like I see it as like a like
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: a TV show. And then there's a Survivor TikTok creator.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I think her name is Teg. Yeah, Teg with Yeah,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: she made a she had a TikTok talking about how
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: she was talking about to someone about what her favorite
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: show was and they're like, oh, Survivor, and she was like,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: oh no, Like it never even occurred to her that
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Survivor was a TV show that could be her favorite show.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: It's more than that. And I agree. It's like it
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: doesn't feel like just a TV show, doesn't feel like
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: just a sport, doesn't feel like just anything. It's it's Survivor.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: It's one of the most popular and important cultural monoliths
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: in the pop culture pyramid, you know what I mean.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Like it's I could do a dissertation about how I
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: think that Survivor is the most important show to American
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: culture since the creation of The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: You know, like I could get better peek into the
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: culture than Johnny Carson or whatever Late Night is on
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: at the time, because it's like a real window into
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: American culture from twenty years ago. You put on one
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: of those old seasons, it is nothing. And it's not
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: just because of the format of the game being different.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: It's those people people twenty years ago were not the
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: way people are now, and I think a lot of
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: the changes have been for the better.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And it doesn't even have to be all
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: the way at the beginning either, Like if you go
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: back just to like the the thirties season, thirties when
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: they did gen X versus Millennial, that was two generations ago.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Like if they did it now, it would be GENV
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: versus Millennial or Gen Alpha versus Gen Z, you know
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: what I mean. And what's so interesting about it is
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: like you get to look into the culture of what
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: because at that time it was it was gen X
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: versus millennials in just life, where it was just gen
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: X people calling millennials lazy and get a job, and
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: they don't do anything like recession. We're screwed.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: You guys did.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: This, And so it's like that season is almost like
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: a representation of the time.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know, we're getting way off we are, but
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: it's fun. I love Survivors so much. I mean, we're
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: just ranting. Now, maybe I'll do what to me? The
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: way I look at Survivor is like a sport because
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: it's like it's just like MLB or NFL. You have
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: these parameters that everybody knows. And then what's fun about
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: it is it's the same game. But it's how do
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: these individuals decide that they're going to do something different
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: within the same set of rules that people have had
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: for however many years, And that's what say.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: And when someone when someone does do something different and
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: someone does something wild, it makes for like huge entertainment.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you getting an anomaly like Cedric where he does
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: a bunch of things they've never been done before. Every
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: So we I don't know if you guys can tell
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: we really love Survivor.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, yes we do. Because that's what's funny. In
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: like a peak to the outside of the podcast is
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: like when we get done recording tonight, we'll be texting
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: about Survivor.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: It never stops. It really never stops. No, we have
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: a Survivor group chat. I mean we get we look
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: at Survivor content all over the place. Like, what, twenty
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: thirty percent of my life I feel like is consumed
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: by Survivor, at least my brain.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it just it's become I don't even know
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: what to say. It's just become important.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I felt that way ever since we
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: started the draft and weren't doing this podcast. Yeah, I
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: still wanted to discuss Survivor all the time. I mean,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: the the reason I wanted to start this podcast is
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, we talk about the show way too much.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: We might as well record it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: And now we talk about the show Survivor, and then
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: we talk about our show about Survivor, and.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Then we talk about the fans reaction to Survivor, and
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: then we complain about the complaining.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we're in too deep. We need to go
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: touch grass.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know what, maybe we need to touch
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: space because I have a I have some audio from
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: from Katy Perry, not Gail King. Well, Gail's coming up
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: a little bit after the This is what will end
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: after the break, well after the break, sure, all right,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: let's let's hear from Katie.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: I hope they can see the unity that we modeled
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: and replicate that and understand that we weren't.
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: Just taking up space.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: We were making space for the future. And for me, Mike
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: gil said, this wasn't a ride, it wasn't a destination.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: It was a journey and it was a supernatural one.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Speaking of survivor, Hey, Jeff, I got a pitch supernatural journeys.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Let's let's bring in some like mediums into these things.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Do some tarot reading maybe.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Oh man, dude, I saw a hilarious TikTok where Gail
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: King was justifying she was calling off the haters that
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: were coming at her and she said, uh, have you
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: been to space? I didn't think so. And someone was like, yeah,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: cause we got bills and shit.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm not I am not going to criticize
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Oprah's lesbian lover all, right. Is that actually it's heavily speculated.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: It's not official, Jail. That's the Gail. I've always heard.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: That's the Gail.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: And she's just been chilling on CBS she.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Has and chilling in space for ten seconds. Let's you
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: know what, let's hear from Gail, not after the break.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I'll spare you guys. We'll do the break after the
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: show in so you don't have to listen to it
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: like normal.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Katy, you got to sing something.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Is it going to be roar? Is it going to
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: be fireworks?
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: Is it going to be extra to us?
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Real?
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: And I said you have to sing?
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: She goes, Actually I don't. How could you be up
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: here and up she goes, I'm not planning to sing
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: because we were already with our little singalongs. But when
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: we were coming back down, Katie just broke out in
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: a cappella what a wonderful world, And the way that
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: she sang it, nobody dare join in.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: As opposed to we would all been oh no.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: No no, but it have been raw fireworks, it would
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: have been a sing along.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: But in that moment she.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Looked outside her window.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: She said, I haven't sang that song in years, and
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: it was perfection.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: It was perfection.
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: I'll never forget that moment.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Like I know, I played her talking about that earlier,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: but this is a little extra important site, you know.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's important to listen to about it because I
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: was a Katie Perry defender before all this. It's really
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: hard to justify. It's just cringey, dude, it's cringey.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Well, she's been extremely cringey for a little bit now,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: but that hasn't stopped me from loving like the California
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Girls album and all that.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I'm just a big fan of Orlando Bloom So I'm.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: A big fan of the one that Got Away Hot
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: and Cold, you know, one of the boys, that's another
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: classic Kaye. Yeah, but I can't look I can I
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: can overlook going to space. You know, there's some musicians
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I can't overlook their controversies, like Kanye Kid rock yeah,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: for obvious reasons, but go into space for a few
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: seconds and making some cringey documentary. It's not going to
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: stop me from listening to old Katy Perry albums.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wish I don't even care about them
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: going to space. I just wish they wouldn't make it
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: sound like it was so important.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: That's the funniest part though, Like that's the reason that
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: we opened last show and then we're in this show
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, I have one final thing, Okay, I
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: saw I keep having stuff pop up like I didn't
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: plan on making this how we ended the show just
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I guess the Internet has just figured out, like, feed
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: him more Blue Origin female space content. He really likes it.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: So this is on Reddit, I had a thread pop
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: up that said Katie is regretting her Blue Origin space
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: flight and I was like, oh, fascinating. This is eight
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: thousand up votes. It says she's regretting it.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I thought she was like really publicly not regretting it.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: And then I read the article and the article completely
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: contradicts the headline of the article. It said Katie doesn't
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: regret going to space. It was life changing. What she
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: does regret is making a public spectacle out of it.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: So oh, there you go. No regrets.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, shout out to Katie, shout out to Gail,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: and we love Survivor.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Amen. If that's the one takeaway from this podcast, we
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: love Survivor, yep, and Gail King.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: And mother Mary. Even if I you know, made some
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: comments about you know it's about Camilla, all right, can't
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: come for Camilla.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Hey, I don't think. I don't think Mary is gonna
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: be mad at you. But if she is, then you know,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: maybe that just means that she regrets that one time
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: when she said she wishes you drafted or not me.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean she did immediately go back on
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: that and say I'm not going to PD. So yeah, look,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. I'm happy with my team.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I'm happy that you joined me for this episode, Chase,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: and I'm happy that I don't know, I don't know where.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going with that you didn't have a third thing.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm happy that Katie Perry went on a supernatural
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: journey Jeff Supernatural Journeys next week. This has been the
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: sanctuary where good pods happen.
• 43:55
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• 43:57
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• 44:02
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• 44:05
  Speaker 7: It is at the end of the show. I mean,
• 44:07
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