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3 Guys Before The Game - TCU Recap - Utah Preview (Episode 614) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Two game road trip is complete. Now two at home
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  Speaker 1: and then back onto the road. This is three Guys
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  Speaker 1: before the Game, episode number six hundred and fourteen, Kerchieval
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  Speaker 1: and this is our TCU recap in our Utah preview.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's do this thing.
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia since the last time we got together, has
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  Speaker 1: suffered a loss on the road to TCU final score
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  Speaker 1: sixty five sixty frogs tough one to digest A lot
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  Speaker 1: of red numbers on my final status sheet that I
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  Speaker 1: kind of circled around.
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  Speaker 2: There and uh hmm ouch. So we'll get into that.
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  Speaker 1: Plus we're going to get into the preview against the
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  Speaker 1: Utah Utes Hoppies, obvious observations. Well, start things off, how
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  Speaker 1: are you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm well, are you guys? Welcome back? Late night? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: late night for you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Late night, early morning.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 3: I'll start with this first of all, that it was
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  Speaker 3: it was almost like five different games within a game, right,
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  Speaker 3: I mean it seemed that way, like for seven minutes
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  Speaker 3: the game was going one way, for some of the
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  Speaker 3: game was going another way. It is very different over
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  Speaker 3: the course of those forty minutes. I found this quote
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  Speaker 3: this morning. I don't have it exactly, but John Wooden
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  Speaker 3: said something to the effect that the key to defense
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  Speaker 3: is play with the intensity that causes the other team
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  Speaker 3: to become emotional, which was his way of saying getting
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  Speaker 3: in their head.
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  Speaker 4: Right, that's a good line.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And West Virginia started that game. I mean, listening
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  Speaker 3: to you guys last night, and West Virginia was in
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  Speaker 3: their heads, in their space and in their heads causing turnovers,
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  Speaker 3: bad points off turnover and listening you guys, you all
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  Speaker 3: were saying, oh, this is it, this is the way
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  Speaker 3: it works, this is how you do it. And it
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  Speaker 3: was that way for the first fifteen minutes of the
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  Speaker 3: half and then and I'll defer to you guys on
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  Speaker 3: whether West Virginia's didn't have the same level of intensity
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  Speaker 3: for the last five and the first five or first
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  Speaker 3: ten of the second half, or whether TCU was doing
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  Speaker 3: something whatever, but obviously that it changed. It's very hard,
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  Speaker 3: if not impossible, to have the level of defensive intensity
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  Speaker 3: that West Virginia needs to have to win games for
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  Speaker 3: the entire game. That's hard to do. And there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of pressure on this defense because West Virginia is
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  Speaker 3: just not the most prolific offensive team. Right last night,
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  Speaker 3: Javon gets his twenty late, you know, gets his twenty
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  Speaker 3: and helps hang West Virginia's hanging in there. But who
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  Speaker 3: is the second guy? And that that becomes even more
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  Speaker 3: evident on a week where you find out that Tucker DeVries,
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  Speaker 3: which we knew anyway it wasn't going to be back.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you, no matter how long you go the season, Tony,
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  Speaker 3: you're still going to be missing that piece. There's nobody
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that has stepped up or capable of
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  Speaker 3: stepping up to fulfill the piece that is missing from
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  Speaker 3: Tucker Devrees not being there. So you didn't once again,
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  Speaker 3: didn't have that second score. And I know we'll get
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  Speaker 3: into the tails about this. You got a lousy whistle,
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  Speaker 3: I mean a really bad whistle. And TCU, Brad, as
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  Speaker 3: you mentioned, you serge, you just used usn't lowsy bad.
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  Speaker 3: I know you'll you'll have other would you use?
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  Speaker 2: What would you use?
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  Speaker 4: Whatever's ten times stronger than what he just said.
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  Speaker 3: So I'll let you elaborate on that. But where and Brad,
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  Speaker 3: you kept calling for TCU to miss free throws and
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  Speaker 3: they didn't. I mean they got the free throw line
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  Speaker 3: twenty three times and made twenty or whatever. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we're twenty points above their average and free throw shooting
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia does not get to the line.
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  Speaker 4: And then hold on, don't gloss over that reason. I
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  Speaker 4: kept calling for a miss. They're one of the eight
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  Speaker 4: worst free throw shooting teams in America sixty three percent.
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  Speaker 4: They shot eighty seven percent from the line.
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  Speaker 3: Life, Yeah, it was, So that was done.
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  Speaker 5: And Tony you you you called it, you called it
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  Speaker 5: last night because at some point coach Devrees, who's normally,
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  Speaker 5: you know, has a working relationship with the refs, and
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  Speaker 5: as they got to halftime, he had an animated conversation
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  Speaker 5: with one of the officials, and Tony you called it.
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  Speaker 5: You said, Okay, you're going to start to get some calls.
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  Speaker 2: Here got four in a row.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you did get some calls, but they were late,
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  Speaker 3: and then when you did get to the line limited
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  Speaker 3: all albeit you missed a couple key free throws down
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  Speaker 3: the stretch and they made free throws. So I at
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  Speaker 3: the end, my summary is, I think this is one
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  Speaker 3: of the most disappointing losses of the season for a
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  Speaker 3: variety of reasons. I would call it because that was
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  Speaker 3: right there and you couldn't finish, you got a bad whistle.
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  Speaker 3: I would classify this as a prisoner of the moment,
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  Speaker 3: the most disappointing loss of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not going to oppose you on that.
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  Speaker 3: You can and it's just those my obvious observations.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not going to oppose you on that. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get into some of these numbers. But I just did
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  Speaker 1: do some simple math. You know, in the last two games,
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  Speaker 1: two of the worst free throw shooting teams in the
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  Speaker 1: Big twelve are thirty one of thirty five in the
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  Speaker 1: last two games. Did not catch you against Cincinnati because
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  Speaker 1: the Bearcats were so woeful in their shooting at thirty
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  Speaker 1: two percent from the field, but they were eleven of
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  Speaker 1: twelve at the foul line, and then TCU goes twenty
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  Speaker 1: at twenty three. Anyway, do I need to turn the
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  Speaker 1: delay on before you begin your comments, because I you
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  Speaker 1: see steamless oppy summary driving down a road, driving down
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  Speaker 1: the road, and you look far away and you see
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  Speaker 1: like steam coming up with you.
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  Speaker 4: Both were numbers tell you the story. I'll just give
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  Speaker 4: you some numbers, okay, on the motion. I mean, I'll
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  Speaker 4: just do some numbers on the thing. But I will
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  Speaker 4: say this, and hope I said it. Tony last night
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  Speaker 4: literally interrupted him. Actually he was giving the elias for
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  Speaker 4: the referees, and the last thing I said before tip off,
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  Speaker 4: I thought he was taking.
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  Speaker 2: A breath there.
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  Speaker 4: I thought I could slide this in there. Last thing
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  Speaker 4: I said was those guys are going to matter tonight.
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  Speaker 4: The style in which they call this game is going
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  Speaker 4: to matter, because the thinking was this is two teams
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  Speaker 4: that can struggle offensively at times, but it's two teams
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  Speaker 4: that are going to get after you defensively and apply
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  Speaker 4: some real defensive pressure. West Virginia clearly did that for
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  Speaker 4: a good stretch, and I thought TCU did as well.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, take the foul disparity out, which is absolutely
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  Speaker 4: abysmal and ridiculous and shouldn't happen, but I'll get to that.
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  Speaker 4: Take that out of it. I thought TCU did a
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  Speaker 4: really good job of pressuring West Virginia and pushing it out.
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  Speaker 4: That's part of why we kept calling for those lights
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  Speaker 4: to the back, which eventually West Virginia did ends up
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  Speaker 4: with a season high points off cuts because that worked.
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  Speaker 4: So TCU did a pretty good job too. But I
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  Speaker 4: just thought this style of officiating would matter, And I
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  Speaker 4: didn't mean that before the game in terms of what
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  Speaker 4: the foul shooting gap would be, although it turned out
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  Speaker 4: to be what it was. But I just thought the
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  Speaker 4: way it was going to be called mattered, and I thought,
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  Speaker 4: you start with that line of thinking, and listen, we'll
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  Speaker 4: go through the shoot uoting woes that existed for West
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  Speaker 4: Virginia for a long time until they caught fire. We'll
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  Speaker 4: talk about the inability to create points off turnovers for
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  Speaker 4: a big stretch of that game. TCU did tweak some
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  Speaker 4: stuff that affected that. But as I often say about this,
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  Speaker 4: you can't come in here and do an analysis of
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  Speaker 4: that game and just ignore the officials or just say
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  Speaker 4: if you'd made another three, you probably win, which is
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  Speaker 4: probably true. If you grab one more defensive rebound there
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  Speaker 4: at the end, although there might have been contact there.
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  Speaker 4: I'll get to that later. One more defense rebund, you
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  Speaker 4: got a shot down three to tie the game with
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  Speaker 4: nine sects AO. So there are things within the game
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  Speaker 4: that West Virginia clearly could have done better to get
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  Speaker 4: you to win. But I think it's also disingenuous to
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  Speaker 4: talk about this game and not get into some of
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  Speaker 4: these numbers that were so far out of whack from
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  Speaker 4: the norms that they they scream out to be discussed on.
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  Speaker 4: That's always my point on this officiator, And I'm not
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  Speaker 4: going to get up here and bang the desk and
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  Speaker 4: scream a holler and go bananas. But I am going
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  Speaker 4: to ask some questions as we look at some of
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  Speaker 4: these numbers and say, how does that happen?
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  Speaker 3: Wellairarity was so great, I mean the style of play
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  Speaker 3: was similar, right, style was similar. So the disparity is
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  Speaker 3: so great that it cannot be ignored and that that
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  Speaker 3: just is so tony. What was your thought?
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  Speaker 1: I find it headshaking and almost impossible that the Big
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  Speaker 1: twelve's leading score Javon Small took nineteen shots, took nineteen shots,
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  Speaker 1: the most by any player on the floor, and did
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  Speaker 1: not go to the foul. Whereas did you not take
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  Speaker 1: a single free throw? Meanwhile, yeah, I know, Sean Alette
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  Speaker 1: of TCU took one less shot, took one less shot
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  Speaker 1: from the floor, and he attempted seven free throws. How
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  Speaker 1: Javon Small.
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  Speaker 3: Reynolds, Yeah, Reynolds had also went the free throw line
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  Speaker 3: seven times, seven shots.
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  Speaker 1: Reynolds took nine shots, Uh huh and took seven free
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  Speaker 1: throw Did I find Javonne Small in each of the
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  Speaker 1: last two games, including the Cincinnati win, Javon is going
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  Speaker 1: to the rim, he is getting hit and they are
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  Speaker 1: not calling the foul, which makes zero sense.
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  Speaker 3: So here's a question. And again, you guys were talking
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  Speaker 3: about this last night. There was a lot of action
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  Speaker 3: around the rim, and TCU was going to the rim.
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  Speaker 3: But so it seemed like every time that TCU went
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  Speaker 3: to the rim, they got a call. It seemed like
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  Speaker 3: when West Virginia went to the rim did not get
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  Speaker 3: a call. That's what it felt like.
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  Speaker 4: There was an abnormal amount, in my opinion, an abnormal
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  Speaker 4: amount of calls on West Virginia on shooting fouls. And
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  Speaker 4: it was even less about going to the rim, like
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  Speaker 4: there was one late where they went to the rim
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  Speaker 4: and got absolutely hammered by West Virginia. Okay, okay, there
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  Speaker 4: was an abnormal number in my mind, my opinion, when
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  Speaker 4: they would go into the lane and go up for
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  Speaker 4: a shot and West Virginia is extending vertically just in
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  Speaker 4: guarding position, not trying to block a sh shot at
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  Speaker 4: a rim, but just going straight up and calling West
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  Speaker 4: Virginia on those that you don't see that many, Tony,
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  Speaker 4: real quick, I'm gonna break up some of these numbers.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm just not rattling numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Spread Zone.
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  Speaker 4: It's not, but it piggybacks off what you were just
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  Speaker 4: saying right there. It's some numbers. It's some contextual numbers
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  Speaker 4: to what you just said in your hypothesis that how
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  Speaker 4: the guy it's the leading scorer in the Big twelve
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  Speaker 4: with the most shots on the floor can't get to
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  Speaker 4: the line.
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  Speaker 2: You're ready, Yes, if the.
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  Speaker 4: Season ended today, guys, javan is in the ninety third
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  Speaker 4: percentile nationally in personal fouls drawn per forty minutes. Ninety
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  Speaker 4: third percentile. Wow, that's pretty good in getting fouls called
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  Speaker 4: on person fouls drawn. Yet he didn't get to line
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  Speaker 4: one time. As you mentioned, eight of his nineteen shots
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  Speaker 4: were in the lane or at the rim and zero
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  Speaker 4: were called as fouls. Conversely, a Let and Reynolds you
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  Speaker 4: just mentioned Tony, if the season ended today, those guys
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  Speaker 4: are in the sixty third and sixty fifth percentile in
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  Speaker 4: terms of person fouls drawn. So it's a big gap
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  Speaker 4: in how games are normally called. Normally, the way Javon plays,
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  Speaker 4: when he's getting shots at the rim and basket, there's contact,
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  Speaker 4: teams are flying at him and they're getting called. They
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  Speaker 4: did not last night, and oh, by the way, they
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  Speaker 4: did not at Cincinnati. That's two of the last three
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  Speaker 4: games where a guy that's in the ninety third percentile
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  Speaker 4: in fouls drawn has gone to the line zero times.
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  Speaker 4: That's hard to do. I say that again, two of
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  Speaker 4: the last three games, Javon Small is not attempted a
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  Speaker 4: free throw, and he's in the ninety third percentile nationally.
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  Speaker 4: And personal fouls drawn. That's hard to do. Bred and
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  Speaker 4: the other two guys for them that are going to
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  Speaker 4: the line constantly are down in the middle of the
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  Speaker 4: pack nationally, right.
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  Speaker 3: An exclamation point on that. Going back to Davrees really
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  Speaker 3: being very animated as you described Tony with one of
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  Speaker 3: the officials, and what does Devree' style like. He doesn't
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  Speaker 3: just every time down the court berate the officials.
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  Speaker 4: Very interstated with officials, very.
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  Speaker 3: Understated, has a I think works on a relationship. Did
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  Speaker 3: you get the called ord you missed it. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he he works it, but he works it in a respectful,
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  Speaker 3: coequal kind of way. So you know when he blows
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  Speaker 3: a lid that there's something going on, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: he would do that if he did not think that
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  Speaker 3: things were over the line.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it mattered last night, guys. It changed the outcome
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  Speaker 4: of the game. You mentioned that defensive start for West Virginia,
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  Speaker 4: Reynolds wanted no part of Sincere Harris after about three
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  Speaker 4: or four possessions, Sincere was in him, he was picking
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  Speaker 4: up full court. He was making it getting across half
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  Speaker 4: court difficult. And I thought the play that exemplified that
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  Speaker 4: was early on. They inbound the ball to Reynolds, Sincere
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  Speaker 4: jumps over on him and is right up against him,
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  Speaker 4: and Reynolds immediately kicks it back to all Lette, like
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  Speaker 4: I don't want this, you take it, kicks it to
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  Speaker 4: all Let and I'm sure a Let went okay, I'll
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  Speaker 4: just bring it up Sincere in a flash jumped over
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  Speaker 4: on a Let, picked him, laid it in, but then
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  Speaker 4: he gets a second foul on him and goes to
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  Speaker 4: the bench and there's a run of TC. They get
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  Speaker 4: a net eleven points in that stretch with no Sincere
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  Speaker 4: in the lineup. That evaporated a lead that changed the game.
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  Speaker 4: Now West Virginia in that stretch got up to what
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  Speaker 4: biggest lead was twelve twelve. Yes, Tony and I did
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  Speaker 4: talk in the break. I said to him during one
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  Speaker 4: of the breaks, I said, I feel like this should
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  Speaker 4: be eighteen.
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  Speaker 3: No, you said that on the air. What I said
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  Speaker 3: on the air, You said, well, I'm not sure you
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  Speaker 3: said eighteen, but you said you felt like that was
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  Speaker 3: a great point. The lead should be bigger considering how
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  Speaker 3: the game had.
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  Speaker 4: Gone, Okay, So I didn't realize that. So that was
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  Speaker 4: a concerning part to me that I just felt West
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  Speaker 4: Virginia was sloppy with the ball all night, right, They
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  Speaker 4: weren't crisp with their passes. Some turnovers were just out
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  Speaker 4: of thin a turnover and just didn't handle the ball.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't just mean the dribbling, just the handling
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  Speaker 4: of the ball was not good. So it wasn't super
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  Speaker 4: crisp by West Virginia. That was part of it. But
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  Speaker 4: there was that big run right there, and you went
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  Speaker 4: from six oh eight in the first half to eleven
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  Speaker 4: forty three in the second, six o eight remaining in
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  Speaker 4: the first half to eleven forty three in the second.
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  Speaker 4: TCU was plus twenty two points.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So that was just a massive wing in a game
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  Speaker 4: you had control of. And Tony and I talked about
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  Speaker 4: this at halftime. It eerily and scarily had an Arizona
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  Speaker 4: State field to this. This where you're looking across there going, guys,
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  Speaker 4: you're better than the like you should be up on
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  Speaker 4: this game, and you really weren't, and you could have
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  Speaker 4: done some things differently, and you come out and what
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  Speaker 4: do we say, Tony, the first four minutes of the
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  Speaker 4: second half, just like Arizona State are going to be critical.
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  Speaker 4: Arizona State took control of that game here and ended
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  Speaker 4: up winning the game. TCU took control of it early.
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  Speaker 4: Now West Virginia fought itself all the way back in
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  Speaker 4: but ultimately fell short.
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  Speaker 3: Tony back to that second score too, and it could
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  Speaker 3: have been power last night. I mean, Powell had looks,
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  Speaker 3: Pale had eight shots, he knocked down one. Okay, now
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  Speaker 3: now here you go, and he was one of eight.
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  Speaker 3: So you still you're you just don't have that other
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  Speaker 3: person that you can regularly depend on, right.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I've said it multiple times, there is no margin
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  Speaker 1: for air with this team, right, and so Javon Small
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  Speaker 1: through you know, the majority of this season has been
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  Speaker 1: their game in a game out. You know, whe you're
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  Speaker 1: going to get, you're gonna get on an off night thirteen.
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  Speaker 1: But most of the time it's gonna be nineteen twenty points, right, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so someone else has to do it. Cincinnati game, it
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  Speaker 1: was Joe, yesfu pops off there he gets you sixteen
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  Speaker 1: last night you did not happen. Now you had look
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  Speaker 1: he had ten or eleven, and yeah you had looks.
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  Speaker 1: Joe kind of kept him in there. And other than that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and again I'm not gonna call out players.
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  Speaker 2: You can do the math. I'll tell you this. Joe Yesafu.
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  Speaker 1: And Javon Small were a combined twelve of thirty, but
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  Speaker 1: they were seven of eighteen from three. They were seven
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  Speaker 1: of eighteen from three. That means that the rest of
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: the team was one of twelve. Can't win that way,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: especially when you're not getting a fair whistle or rebounds. Yeah,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: they got out rebound at thirty four to twenty six.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing that makes us mad. That makes
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: you mad. Percentage wise, they outshot TCU from the field
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: and from three, they outscored him off of turnovers plus thirteen.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: They outscored him in the paint plus six. Those are
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: the things that make you want to mash your head
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: and just go like.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: What well you've you've It is become it's becomes so
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: evident when and Red you were talking about Sincere Harris
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: that a team that is really built upon defense. It
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: starts with defense. That when Sincere Harris is such an
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: integral part of that, uh, and when he's not in there, boy,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: it makes this a gigantic gives Then he got an ankle, right, got.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: A leg, got an ankle leg It was an ankle
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: and the leg and so now you don't know what
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: a status is for Saturday.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: So certainly hurt him not being out there oh much.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: I referenced that Arizona State game that was a plus
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: twenty three and points off turnovers and you didn't win,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: which is just a mind boggling number. And you're right,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: this was plus thirteen and you lost. But you mentioned
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: hop that was a good point the game. There are
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: multiple games within that game. Here was one. This was
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: a massive stretch. West Virginia created nine turnovers in the
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: first eight minutes of the game, and that's where that
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: defense was taking over. Absolutely changed how TCU was playing,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: and they had no real answer for that until I
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: mentioned sincere goes out. But then you win a sixteen
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: minute stretch, almost an entire half of game time, a
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: sixteen minute stretch where West Virginia only created two turnovers.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: And we asked Darren about that after the game and
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: some of it, and this is a good job by TCU. Again,
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Jamie Dixon's won a lot of games. He's a good
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: coach too. They switched TCU switched from from ball passing,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: which West Virginia was getting a lot of hands on
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: those and turning them over a lot of deflections going
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: out of their way, so they went even heavier ball
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: screen handoff, just dribbling where it's more difficult to get
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: turnovers or create steals like West Virginia was doing early.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: That coupled with your best on ball defender going out
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: of the game for a big stretch was a massive
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: switch in that game. It took away West Virginia's ability
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: to score. And we say this all the time, guys,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: there's a couple of easy ways to score. Shooting and
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: running offense is sometimes hard in this league. Can you
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: get points off turnovers and get in transition before they
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: set up, or can you get to the free throw line?
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: West Virginia has not been a team that gets to
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: the free throw line very much during the season, But
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: when the other team is doing it in a gap
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: like that, that's where you get concerned. How are you
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: overcoming that? How are you balancing that out? Points off
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: turnovers is usually one way that West Virginia does it.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: But when that went cold for sixteen minutes and they're
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: still parading to the free throw line getting their easy
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: buckets for a team that was struggling offensively, for a
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: team that couldn't shoot from the perimeter. That's the difference
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: in the ballgame, right there.
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  Speaker 1: did you get mad when you put these together?
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  Speaker 4: Just put numbers down?
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  Speaker 2: Did you mumble at all? Yeah?
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I did it.
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  Speaker 4: I did it on the plane last night right after
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Sorright, did you watch were you watching next year to Corey?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Were you watching his tape?
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: I was watching a lot. I was watching what Darren
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: was watching. I was watching what Corey was doing. I
• 22:55
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• 22:57
  Speaker 4: was doing.
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  Speaker 2: What stood out to you when you were watching the tape.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: Again for BYU no no, no, for this.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Last night's game when they were watching last night's game back?
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: What what pedge off?
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Same things that PG off during the game, because.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: It makes you am more angry when they stop and
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: freeze it and you see Javon Small's body go back
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and get hit and no call, and you go like,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: that's what makes.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Sure you see on a potential offensive rebound when there's
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: a forum in the back that crumples the defensive rebounder
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: who's in perfect position and you're not able to jump
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: and get the ball.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: But that's why I'm glad I closed my eyes and
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: went to sleep. I didn't need to see that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: You saw it enough up close and personal. YEA, not
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Let's look at some of these numbers, and we'll start
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: with free throws because I do think that's the biggest
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: story coming out of the game. And again, if your TCU,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: that's what you're saying today, hop you're thrilled you got
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: whistle and you went to the line, and they should listen.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: They should be proud of themselves for making the shots
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: that the line. I'm still as much as I'm baffled
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: by the gap in attempts, I am totally flummixed by
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: their ability that team to be one of the worst
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: in the country. And I mean that literally. They were
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: three fifty seven, three fifty nine out of three sixty seven,
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: going in sixty three percent from the line, shot eighty
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: seven percent and by the.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Way, for you, the over under on the number of
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: times you called for a miss last night was at
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: eight and a half.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: My jinks is not working, you know, trying to sometimes,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: trying and speak it into existence.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Understand I'm familiar.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Well there due.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Tony for a miss here, there's six percent on the
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: which is guaranteed every time. Every time you said that,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: they made it.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I'm familiar with it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: And then I'd said it so much I had to
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: keep tripling down. I just kept pushing my chips.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: And like I'm doing it again.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: You know what happened.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: What happened end of the night, had no chips, put them.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: All in a bust.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I'm walking out. My pockets are empty. I got nothing
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: and they made all. I don't know when they missed
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: free throws. What's the credit to must have been the
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: first half, because the second half they must have made everything.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: It is a classic case of one a bad free
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: throw shooting team makes like their first three. It's almost
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: like a virus that goes positive, like hey man, three,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: hey man. Vashan just made his and I was like
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: in the r for goos.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'll do respect, dude, stepping up, shooting the ball,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: going sideways, spin.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: A few knuckles.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Here's the here's the numbers. I said I wasn't gonna
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: pound the desk. I pound of the desk.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Pounded.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Here you go. So so that was the biggest one
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: to me. Sixty three percent free throw shooting, team hits
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: eighty seven percent. Talk about an outlier. Thirty one percent
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: of TCU's points came from the free throw line. That's
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: a that's a great way to get some easy points
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: when your offense isn't very good and then is struggling
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: on top of that, that's a great way to counteract that.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: So again, credit them for stepping the line and hitting those.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: That's a a TCU season high in Big Twelve play
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: in free throw attempts, no season high in makes in
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Big Twelve play, and a season high in Big Twelve
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: play in free throw percentage. Geez, stunning TCU free throw
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: attempt rate, which we talk a lot about and again
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: spent a lot of time on this stat during the
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Hugs era because this was West Virginia. They did that.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: West Virginia got to the line a bunch during an
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: era when at times it struggled offensively, and it picked
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: up a lot of free points at the line.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: It is a strategy that can work. TCUs free throw
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: attempt rates. So free throw attempts divided by shot attempts.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: It's a measure there hop of how much you're going
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: to line versus your making field goals right or just
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: shooting fields. Their free throw attempt rate last night was
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: up sixteen percent over its previous five games. West Virginia's
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: free throw attempt rate last night was down ten percent
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: over its last five. So, just in that small five
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: game conference sample size, what's that swing. It's a twenty
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: six point swing percentage point swing right there.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I don't think this is helping.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think this.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Is I was going to give you some stuff. This
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: is a number segment. Go back to TCU's previous seven
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: games prior to playing West Virginia. The opponents, I'll work
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: in reverse order, the opponent's free throw attempt rate thirty
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: one percent, forty two percent, thirty six percent, eighteen percent,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: twenty nine percent, fifty nine percent, forty one percent all
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Big twelve games. That's how much they were sending teams
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: to the line. Thirty one, forty three, thirty seven nineteen
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: twenty nine fifty nine, forty one and seventeen percent. West
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Virginia's free throw attempt rate eight point six percent outlier,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: just an incredib.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: No, that's what you look for, is the outlier. Right.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: You might say, well, yeah, it wasn't quite, but I
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: mean when it's when it's that much of an outlier,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: it just it just stands out.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: Last thing here, West Virginia. That's the second most opponent
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: free throw attempts in Big twelve play. It's the second
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: most opponent makes in Big twelve play. Colorado made twenty
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: four free throws, but were only plus four in that category.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: TCU plus eighteen point differential in the free throws made
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: that TCU performance thirty one percent of its points ties
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Kansas's thirty one percent. So you tie something in Kansas
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: when it comes to foul shooting prowess.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Done something well.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: Couple of positive notes for West Virginia coming out of there.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Move the ball extremely well. Hop I mentioned the reaction
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: to the pressure defense which your seeing teams start to do.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: West Virginia's points off cuts to the basket have increased
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: over the last few games. What drives that really good
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: passing in West Virginia had some good passing. Second most
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: assists in a game last night, nineteen on twenty five
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: made free throw So that's a massive assist rate right there.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: That's what seventy six percent. That's really good. West Virginia's
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: normally down in that fifty percent range, which is also good,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: but that was impressive last night. A couple other notes.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: We've been talking about this for most of the season.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: If you could get some more out of bounds plays
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: last night, Hoppy, you would have won the game. They
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: left the lane wide open all night. You were calling
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: for that as well, many many times.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: You listened really well.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: I listened very closely.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: West Virginia had eighteen points off baseline out of bounds
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: and sideline out of bounds. They were carving them up
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: on set plays off of dead balls there.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: They should have West Virginia should have more times, you know,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: knocked the ball off of a TCU player so they
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: could see they had one. One in particular stood out.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: It was a beautiful play. It was I think it
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: was a baseline in bounds. There were two passes and
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: got it to Javon's who curled around. That was a
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: beautiful play.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were clicking there the after timeouts. We say
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: that a lot. If West Virginia gets the ball coming
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: out of a timeout, you feel pretty good about the
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: position you're in again last night, twelve points coming out
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: of timeouts. That's back to back games where West Virginia's
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: had a season high in Big twelve play coming out
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: of timeouts. So you mentioned some of those numbers. You
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: look at and go, okay, that's usually a win for
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: West Virginia. That's one you get a lot of points
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: out of it timeout. That's a benefit and a positive
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: for Western It usually turns in to a win. Here's
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: one that's you talk about maddening.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I'll give you.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I'll give you a mad good I got. I'm good.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: He's got maden.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Evan Miakawa, who runs in an advanced analytics sites Really
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Good evanmia dot com, Evan m i ya dot com,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: friend a sports line. We've had him on a bunch.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: He has a stat called kill shots. These are runs
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: of ten points or more that a team goes on
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: and or can give up. So he tracks these. I'm
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: kind of going back to doing my own tracking of
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: these over the last few games. Here's some numbers. If
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: a team has two runs of ten plus zero runs streaks,
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: they win eighty eight percent of the time. So if
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: you can get on two ten to nothing or more runs,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: you win the game. West Virginia did that once prior
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: to last night against Oklahoma State. Of that game, go god,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: w you did it again last night. You had two
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: runs of ten points or more and you win eighty
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: eight percent of time. And you didn't get the win.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Now they probably did. TCU had one. When you're plus
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: the kill shots, when you are one plus kill shot
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: or more, you win eighty one percent of the time.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: West Virginia was no plus one.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: We were plus plus.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: We had two. They had one. You're still plus one.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: That should kick you it at least an eighty percent
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: win it, and it just didn't happen.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Well, I did a little math. At halftime, we were
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: combined twenty five and two this year when leading by
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: ten or more points in a game and leading at halftime,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: we were combined twenty five and two.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Okay, to add to that, I'll give you another one
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: going into last night, West Virginia twelve and one when
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: leading at the half, TCU three and nine when trailing
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: at the half.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: I know, but Here's what's that. Every every statistic, though
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: has can have a variance depending on circumstance, and the
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: variance last night was yes, West Virginia was leading at
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: the half, but who had momentum for the last four
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: minutes of the half? Right, I mean TCU went in
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: the locker room with a spring in.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Their step middle eight, Brad middle eight, last four for
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: the second half they wanted.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: They met out of the locker room of the spring
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: in their step, and West Virginia's like, Wow, what just
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: happened to the twelve point lead? What happened to that?
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: What's wild about that is you could see Darren in
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the huddle right before the second half started, and he
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: was old school, old Testament, fire and brimstone with those
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: guys right around him, and they were completely locked in
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: on him, and he was telling them exactly that That's
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: exactly what he was telling them, And then they went
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: that's what bums out. And those are the things from
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a coaching standpoint that just frustrates the heck out of you, because,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: like guys, I told you here it is. I'm just saying,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: that's what really spun that whole thing.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's that's true. I would just say
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: also that and this is not making excuses, as I
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: always like to say. The other team gets to play too,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: and sometimes they make a couple of plays and then
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: you're like, oh, you know, I.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Don't, I don't. I don't disagree with one hundred percent.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: But someone has to win the first four minutes.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: And that's my point.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Someone has to win the first four minutes, and so
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: you cannot you just say to yourself, we are not losing.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: So that means you have to take meticulous care of
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: the ball. That means you have to do everything right.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: And last night they just weren't crisp enough and crisp enough,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: and that could be for various reasons, but.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: That was that was the essence of that game.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the thing, guys, that's I know. Sometimes
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: people get bummed out and we start going down some
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: of these officiating numbers, and it's not absolving West Virginia
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: from how it played. Right, it was not its sharpest game,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: but what you're looking at there Hoppier on the road,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: and there were enough pieces there that you thought you
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: were going to walk out with a road win.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: It swung because of one element of that. Could you
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: have done some things better that got you went, absolutely could,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: But man, you were you were close. I talked about that.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: You go on the run, you had points off turnovers,
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: You were passing the ball extremely well. Your center Amani
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Hansbury had four assists last night. You want to look
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: at some wild numbers. You get your center that's making
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: heaving for it. That means your offense, for the most part,
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: is getting the shots at once. It ended with eight threes.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: You're in the ballpark. You make nine or more of
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: your ten and two on the season. So as much
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: as you struggled in the first half making threes, that
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: got to about where it needs to be for this team.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: So you're right there. It just got tipped because a
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: TCUs work at the free throw line.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: You also needed to make those two free throws at
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: the end. And when you were down three, right yeah,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: or down five, down three, whenever it was.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Well, you were tied, and you were tied, you were tied.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: That's what it was.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's do utah.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: I'll give you utah.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Oh you're gonna give me a utah? You got utah?
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: No, all I got is this. You've lost, You've lost
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: four or five. You're home for two. Ken Palm still
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: has he had forty two forty four? Where are you
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: somewhere in there. I don't know what it's you got.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: You got two home games, sold out Saturday, sold out Saturday.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: So you got a great chance against a team that's
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: like you. They're like five and six in the league
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: something like that. You're right in the middle with them.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: You're great. You have a great opportunity to get right.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: You're not playing the best team in the league. You're
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: not on the road. You're home against a team that
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: has about the record you do. Sold out crowd, go
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: win the game.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: The return of Josh.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Eilert, that's right, Yeah, Josh will be back.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Josh will be back.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: It'll be good to see him. Absolutely, hope he gets
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: I mean he's not introduced, but I would think he'll
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: get He'll get some some cheers again for what he
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: did last year, stepping in front of that that flying
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: train down the tracks, sure, and trying to stabilize as
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: much as possible.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: So be good to see Josh, all right, you'd be
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: kind of nice.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Maybe if they did do I think I think they
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: probably If they did, I think he'll get.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Some just like, hey, ladies and gentlemen, we please welcome back.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, hell yeah, do that well?
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Can you? Can you?
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I don't have any say.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: It's been a long time, hoppy since we've seen the utes.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Twenty seven years really since Carl Williams threw his towel
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: out out of the floor and got a technical wow
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: in the sweet sixteen of the NCAA Tournament an Anaheim,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Michael dre Miller got a horrific whistle. Horrific, horrific whistle
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: in that game. Is they were covering Doleac's large backside.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Was the fall calls in that game?
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Rick majeris very nearly missed tip off?
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah wow, you got a lot of There's another.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Sally separately from the team, got caught in traffic, arrived
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: back in the tunnel like ten minutes for tipp He's
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: just walking, gotta get to the floor.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: They've got screwed, got screwed in that game too. They
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: took twenty seven file shots. We took sixteen hose job.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: The technical on Williams is a bit much.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: You lose sixty five sixty two. Carl Williams went like
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: this with his towel. Just frustration. Frustration dropped it down
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: and it went out to the floor. You know, like, okay,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I packed I exactly your ten guys. I remember them,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I remember them.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I remember them.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Jamie Dixon will get on the court. He'll get on
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: the court. Guardian enough. I'm he got this podcast.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: It says whatever the symbol is for, like no curse words.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: So let's just keep it that way. Don't keep don't
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: keep prodding me so that I say something that will
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: hurt our rating.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how Javon Small doesn't get
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: the free throw line.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: I was just gonna say one other thing.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: One other thing is that, how's the leading score in
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: the conference? Guy that goes to the rack and gets
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: dr how did that get the free throw line? Don't
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: start all right here we go, get ready, Utah hopyright
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: five and six in the league. Like West Virginia, they
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: have a win their best win over by U one
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: in four on the road in Big twelve play. So
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: you like that their one win? Oh where we just
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: were last night went over TCU on the road. Good
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: on the offensive glass. So we seem to say that
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: a lot in this league. So you're gonna have to
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: rebound position. Watch forearms in your back. I don't know
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: if Utah does that as much as some others, but
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: you better watch that. Make sure you get in position. Now,
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: stop me if you've heard this before. Okay, one of
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: the bottom six teams nationally and free throw.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Percent I don't say that. That's three in a row.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: A horrific free throw shooting team. But here's the thing, now,
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: what now pay attention here, guys. They get to the
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: free throw line a lot over the last five games
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: a forty three percent free throw attempt rate. If they
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: did that for a season, it's in the ninety six percentile.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: So they like to work inside. They do have some
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: shooters too, but they get to the line a lot,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: and historically or traditionally this season have not made it
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: from the free throw line. Get number one. They're number
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: so again, I'm just making my point. The reason we
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: talk about this so much is because this this has
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: the ability to swing games. Whether you think you're getting
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: a bad whistle or not, that what happens at the
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: free throw line can change games. And this is one
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: of those Hopware. If I'm putting together areas to watch
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: in matchups. This is one and here's why Utah comes
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: in number one in the Big twelve and free throw
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: attempt rate West Virginia sixteenth. You've got to find a
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: way to make up that gap. If you assume going
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: in in your scouting report that they're gonna win the
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: battle at the free throw line unless they shoot like
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: they normally do and go to line and can't make
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: any that would be nice. But if they go in
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: and have a day shooting free throws and West Virginia
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: holds its numbers and doesn't, you've got to fight where
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: are you fighting those points? Elsewhere? Are you going to
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: make some more threes than them? Are you gonna get
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: more points off turnovers? You've got to find it somewhere.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: So that's going to be an important part of this game.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: What do they do at the line? How's this game
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: called tomorrow?
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: How many free throws did West Virginia take at TCU
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: last night?
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Six? Five, five, five?
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: You know how many free throws Utah took at TCU?
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: How many?
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Twenty nine?
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, took twenty nine free throws and didn't shoot
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: great nineteen at twenty nine, but they took twenty.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Nine obviously the game was very different, though very different game.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: They apparently shot all layups, went to the basket on
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: every single attempt. They've turned it over a lot in
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: the last five games. So here where you're looking for
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: a point of differentiation. They're gonna go to the line
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: and get a lot of free throws. You better turn
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: them over when they're not at the line. West Virginia's
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: number one in the Big Twelve in turnover eight versus West.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, West rating number two and the Big Twelve
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: and steel percentage. Going against a team that turns over
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: the most in turnover percentage of the Big Twelve, there's
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: your point of differentiation for West Virginia. Here's something to watch.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: So this is the best passing team in the country
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: in terms of assist trate. I mentioned last night, Western
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: was off the charts with seventy six percent of its
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: baskets were assisted. On this team averages sixty nine percent
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: of its baskets come off assists. So it's gonna move
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: the ball and pass the ball. Got to be ready
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: for that defense. This will be interesting. They do everything
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: hop defensively. They're gonna play some man, They're gonna play
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: some zone. They're gonna throw a triangle in two and
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: a box and one triangle two. There might be a
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: little face guarding at javon small here with some box
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: and now we'll have to see what sticks. Last night,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: West Virginia was expecting TCU to go zone a lot.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: They did on like two possessions is all. They were
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: having success in their man and man defense, so it
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: didn't go that direction. But there's an expectation that Utah
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: is going to throw everything at you defensively and trying
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: and what they're going for their hop they're not great
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: at any of those things, but they're trying to mix
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: it up. A couple of possessions, you go box in one.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: You don't normally see that. Oh no, you steal a
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: couple of possessions, they go try and one too. You
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: miss two shots. So they're gonna throw a bunch of
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: different things at you one lesson. It's an interesting number
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: found last night. West Virginia's conference strength of schedule per
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Ken Palm is number two right now second most difficult
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: conference strength to schedule within the leak. Utah's is twelfth.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: So this advanced Westerdian, but that surprised me on West
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Virginia's side, and we've been talking about that. I mean,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: you came out of the gate with some doozies. Does
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: that schedule lighten up a bit? It had last night.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: That's West Virginia's worst loss in terms of where the
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: Ken Palm ranking is. TCU was down in the eightieth plus.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: You don't know the status of Sincere Harris.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: That's a great point.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: That's a huge, huge point in this game.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, Tony, I know you want to move on from TCU.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: But just one other thing is that I thought for
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: the first part of the game, first fifteen minutes, I
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: thought you guys were doing the game from your hotel room.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: It was it was like a tomb. It was so quiet,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: it was right, I mean, just where are the people?
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: They aren't there?
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: And and well our location is pretty much in the
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: parking lot at the football stadium.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: That's what he was talking about.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, off the floor?
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Excuse me?
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Took us off the floor, moved us up behind the basket.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Excuse me? Yeah, up behind the basket. What's that about?
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Money?
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: They sold the seats that we would sit at.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what they sell this because they're
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: not selling any other seats in the stadium, that's for sure.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: That was our spot, Are you kidding?
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: And hot? That's one of the disappointing parts of not
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: walking out of there with a road wind there. There's
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: there's some hard places in this place, in this league
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: to play. It just turned out last night was not
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: one and not one of No, you caught a break
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: in terms of attendance, and just you would have liked
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: to walk out of there with a win in a
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: game that you had early on.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: That's where you guys, Wow, that's that's disrespecting. Man. You
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: gotta follow a complaint or something on that seriousness.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Radio is up there too, really, Brian was right, yeah,
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: right in front of me.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Just now.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: You don't think there might have been a problem if
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: our boy Estridge was on the floor and we were
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: in the air, that wouldn't have happened. That wouldn't have happened.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: So they put him up there too, Jess. It's bad,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: not good impacts. The broadcast can't do it as well anyway.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: It's a shame.
• 43:56
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  Speaker 1: We're in We're into the We're the Beer of the
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  Speaker 1: month again for February. Now, if you haven't had it yet,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: check it out. Connection three zero is good. With super
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Bowl coming up on Sunday, right, I think i'd be
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: a head at your Super Bowl parties.
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  Speaker 3: I've got an anecdotal info on that. Somebody texted me
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: this morning and said they went to the one of
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: the gomarts sold out. Really know where was that located
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  Speaker 3: up there across from Godfelting Morgantown area.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, it's my home. That's my home venue that Gomart, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's my court. I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure the distributors across the state, we're hearing that
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  Speaker 1: they'll immediately send their trucks.
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  Speaker 3: I'm out. I got to stop buying. I'm out.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl coming from the text line. I don't have
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: the advanced stats like Brad does, but sometimes the basic
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: numbers tell you all you need to know. Our last
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: five losses, we're shooting twenty two percent from the three
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  Speaker 1: point line. If that was extended out for a full season,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: we would be the worst three point shooting team in
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: the country by five whole percentage points. If you take
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  Speaker 1: away Javon Small, the rest of our team is shooting
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  Speaker 1: seventeen point seven eighteen percent from three during that time.
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  Speaker 1: Can't win with those numbers, especially in this league.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I keep waiting for JP's shots to fall.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: Just and the we they were on target last night, Brad, they.
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  Speaker 4: Were just like right there, he's too good.
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  Speaker 1: Shoo, it'll come. Hey, three guys, I got my Mountaineer
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: munch today. Fantastic as usual. One issue though it's already gone.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Oh sorry to hear that, Texter. I see where Matt ruled.
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  Speaker 1: And Nebraska coach is canceling their spring game so players
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  Speaker 1: can't be poached. They lost six after last year's spring game.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, I remember you guys saying you were going
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  Speaker 1: to lose players once they find that where they stand
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  Speaker 1: after spring. Is rule over reacting or is this a trend?
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: Trend?
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Talk to a guy alert, talk to a non WVU
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  Speaker 1: person in the college football space over the last couple
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: of days said something really interesting, Yes, said the key
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: for them this is not WVU, this is a different place.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: The key for them, what they're trying to do in
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: spring is not let the players on the team know
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: where they are on the depth chart, because if they
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: know they're one, they'll go ask for more money. If
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: they know they're three, they'll leave and go into the portal.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: So they're so they're going, what's that word obsca, what's
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: that word.
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  Speaker 3: Obfuse skate or obfuse skating.
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  Speaker 1: They're obfuse skating their depth chart going, hey, hoppy, are
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  Speaker 1: you a no?
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  Speaker 3: No, you're not three hoppy?
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: I mean you're you're you're about one and a half.
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  Speaker 2: You're right there. You just got to come back in August.
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  Speaker 3: Topy, and we're at your starting job. Two things about
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: college coaches there. College coaches are the two p's. They
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: are positive, right, positive, here we go, here we go,
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: here we go. And they are paranoid. Okay, so they
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: they're paranoid about losing players, understandable, but also there might
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: be a trend, uh to just not have a spring
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: not have a spring game, but have something like a
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Pro Bowl event. Right, we just have activities with the players,
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: have some fun things, still have the fans come in,
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Still be a fundraiser, you know, for whatever you're trying
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: to do, but have some fun with it. Coaches hate
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: spring games anyway, right, so you could change it up
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: and have more fun with it rather than sort of
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: trying to create a pseudo game and maybe have more
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: fan interaction and you could do it differently.
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  Speaker 1: It's an incredibly difficult game to simulate. That's why the
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: NFL Pro Bowl has gone to contest. Because you can
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: fit you can play a fake baseball game or an
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: exhibition baseball game. It's hard to do hockey.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard to do. Baseball is the best, Yeah, because
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  Speaker 4: baseball is perfect. You're not all of a sudden you
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  Speaker 4: gonna throw fifty two miles an hour when you normally
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  Speaker 4: throw ninety five.
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  Speaker 1: Right, You're not gonna swing less hard right. Baseball is
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: the most suited Jason from Phoenix, it's our boy. I
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: got a lot to cover here, so line up and
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: handle it. Why do officials insist on going to the
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: monitor when it's way too early for the call to
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: affect either team's strategy. It doesn't involve file shots or
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: a possession. Do it during the next media timeout so
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: not to as affect the flow of the game. Bunch
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: of divas. Then he takes a shot between I mentioned
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: physical therapists and chiropractors.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting in that.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Don't please don't, don't need it, Please don't.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that I started rape my plate. Brad
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: would probably say I channeled my inner. Tony just throw
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: an idea, then walked away and watched it burn. Got
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: one for you though. This was my first plate at
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: the team's revealed dinner for a golf tournament at my club.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Ready ribs, chicken steak, loaded baked potatoes somewhere under that
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: as a pile of spicy baked beans. Second plate, A dude,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: look at that plate, A duplicate of the first. Plus
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I needed a few more stellas.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he went with still artwa not dumb.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, connection that's not out there yet.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Lastly, at my golf club, I had a good fortune
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: to meet Charlie Ragel, who used to coach the Sun
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Devil's football team at Arizona the same time as Rich
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: was there. I asked him for some really good books
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: on football strategy. He gave me Bill Arnsberger's Coaching Defensive
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Football and Cameron Soren's The Past Coverage Glossary. That'd be
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: good for you, Hopey, because you always like to learn.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I do please inform Coach Rod that he now has
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: at his disposal a double agent who was willing to
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: go into the the Beast to gain more information for
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: the Old Golden Blues. Trip to Tempe. I don't care
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: how many rounds of golf I have to play, how
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: many beers I have to drink. I'll handle it.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: By the way, I had lunch with Steve Dunlap yesterday,
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: saw the video and he could not read his Brad,
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: what do you do?
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: It's diagrammed, just the saltshaker and pepper shaker start diager.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: Started diagram. He says, now, look, here's how you do this.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: Here's how you do this. It was classic and loved it.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was interesting. He showed that to me.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Hey, three guys, Jim in Preston County, your episode six'
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: one three, six thirteen, last episode will have a special
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: place in my heart forever. It was recorded on my
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: last day of work before I retired joining Hoppy. Although
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: I'm retiring at an earlier age. I was very happy
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: to see the football schedule no longer is penalizing us
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: with that extra Power five game. Another brilliant move by
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Ren Baker, finally moving in line with the rest of
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: the Rendon rent hasn't.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: That wasn't his schedule.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: That wasn't his schedule that was gonna end. Finally moving
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: in line with the rest of the country. With rich
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Rod back in town, maybe those two factors will bring
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: us back to success we had the first time looking.
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  Speaker 2: Forward to football orted optimism. Thank you. Good to Jim,
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Congratulations on your retirement. And you're right.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I know it was earlier than Hoppy retired because Hobby
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: should not have waited until he was eighty three. Hey three, guys,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: just a heads up. Saturday, we will once again be
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: bringing our army of kids over from over from Landon's
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Library Youth Basketball League and Garrett County, Maryland for the
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Utah game. One of the highlights of their night is
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: to come down and meet you three after the game
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: when they converge to shoot free throws on the floor.
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  Speaker 1: Looking forward to seeing you guys this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Brian from Deep Greek Well two will be there. Yeah
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  Speaker 2: you too, Topy'll be getting ready for that big dinner.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Good day, gentlemen. Inspiration for connection three oh four. I
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: may be crazy, but the word connectivity seems to have
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: made its way into the sports lexicon, particularly in basketball.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Prior to this season. I don't remember hearing that word much,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: if at all. Coach Derees certainly uses that word almost
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: every time he talks about the team. The word is
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: used done just about every college broadcast, and I've even
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: heard the word used on some NFL broadcast. It's a
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: great word to describe playing together as a cohesive unit.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: But I think some high priced consultant at a coach's
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: clinic must have used that term, and now everyone runs
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: with it. So long together this teamwork, chemistry and welcome connectivity.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you Rob in Atlanta. Things running spells a text
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: or ask is it just me? Or is Jamie Dixon
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: turning into Grandpa Munster hair doing?
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  Speaker 2: All?
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  Speaker 3: One is five hundreds last night? Turn your Michael?
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Did you say something?
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: Turn your Michael?
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: Had a heck of a career And.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: It's one of those guys that West Virginia. It's interesting,
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: you know, when you lose rivals, right because you change leaks.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: West Virginia's connected to him, right because of the pit days.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: It's just like, oh yeah, Jamie Dixon, we know him.
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  Speaker 1: Just remember they do have to return that game later. This, yes,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: three guys. Tough loss out here in Fort Worth, never
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: fun to lose. However, when you're a time zone away,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: it's nice to see friendly faces to watch the Mountaineers
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: win or lose. We had a section into the two
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: hundreds that I'm confident covered the middle Ohio Valley from
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Jackson in Wood County. Nice to briefly talk with you
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  Speaker 1: and Brad on the way out. So I'm Cody and
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: fort Worth via Ravens would.
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: Go very nice. Had that Jerry West throwback jersey on here.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: He did look good, Thanks Cuddy. He knew when folks there.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: Had some folks there last night?
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, other Mountaineers there. Yeah good, he knew Mick Price.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Oh really, basketball coach at Ravens. When you Charlie from
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: mid Lothian. Perhaps an in show text. I know we
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: don't talk about it, the officiating, but we don't. Was
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Buck body checked when he heard his ankle and the
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: TCU player went for that uncontested dunk? You guys were there,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: how about describing the officiating in one word?
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: He was going for a loose ball. That's when the
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: contact happened. Real quick. I got one rate my plate.
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: We gotta get in here. We're behind. We got to
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: get a quick rate my plate. Jake put this in Hopy.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: I've never seen this before. Okna trip in on a
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: lot of buses. Never seen this your boy, your boy
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  Speaker 4: with a maide to order omelet. There we had to
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: get to shoot around. So he just brings the silverware
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  Speaker 4: of the plate, everything right on the bus. The bus
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: is moving right there. We're headed to shoot around. And
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: your boys over here with his made to order omelet
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  Speaker 4: and the plate and silverware and napkin, just took it
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  Speaker 4: all out of dining.
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  Speaker 3: Well, bring it back.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: I brought it back.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna get a bill. Gonna get a bill.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: He did bring it back, but I never seen that.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: We ate really well, didn't.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: Go through a drive, just took out a conference.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: Bus gets on there, just taking a big bite. Coach,
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: good see you, good see everybody. I was hung with
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: my five javan. I just eating an omelet up here.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: Don't mind me bad. You know this.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Do not get between Tony and food. It is gonna be.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Let me show you some of the stuff we ate
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: real quick. Here, Jake put some of those pictures up.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: We went to dinner with their play by play guy
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Brian Estriz, who was one of the tread what's that
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: that is? Fig gargin zola issamic glaze. That was really good?
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, next one, look at my plate. That was
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: my fruit to the maari you had scallops, shrimp and
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: mussels and that baby, that was tremendous. And what else
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: do we have? Oh, we drank a lot of coffee yesterday.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: We went to two different places, so we were well
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: caffeinated and that was really good. And then oh we
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: went to this place, Panther City, Panther City. So so
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: that is that on the left, that's that's jalapeno mac
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: and cheese. And you got on the right, you got
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: some differen thing. But go back, hit another one, Jake.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: So look inside that thing. The bottom is a massive
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: piece of fried baloney. On top of that is brisket.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: On top of that is pulled pork. To the left
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: of that you got a burnt in and then on
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: the upside there that's jalapeno sausage.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: Really man, oh man, did you take a picture of
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: the pull the sandwich?
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, you got anything else? I'd give you anything else?
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: Was that it?
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: That might have been there? You guys, you guys ate Well,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, we're not playing hoppy.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: I mean understand, you gotta go in there.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: Plus Stridge, he knows where to go, right, Yeah, that
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: was on hit the barbecue was on his recommendation.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Tim, Yeah, he nailed us.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: He pointed us into that he's a friend of the program.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great dude. He's a great dude.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: Just has a bad seat for the ball game.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: I mean I thought he could have staged a protest
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: with the TCU people and refused to go off the floor,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: but I mean didn't get to that.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: It's all right, that's all right.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: So Monday we're back and we will recap the contest
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: against the Utah Utes, and we'll also look ahead to
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: the b yus.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: It's Utah Week coming up on the on.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: The conference, you know, geographic connection there in West Virginia
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: and Utah.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Travel Partners, Yeah, travel part something like that. All Right,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: we're out. Three guys.
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  Speaker 1: time is complete for the Hopster, the Senator producer Jake.
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  Speaker 2: That'll do it. Three guys before the game, stay well,
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  Speaker 2: see it