Latest / Brian Thomas / Cory Bowman: Finding solutions to the problems downtown
Transcript
- 0:00Speaker 1: Yeah, it's six point thirty right now. If you have
- 0:03Speaker 1: KCD talk station by Thomas always pleased to talk with
- 0:06Speaker 1: former maryl candidate, sadly didn't get elected. Things might be
- 0:09Speaker 1: different and perhaps better than downtown Cincinna. Maybe the population
- 0:11Speaker 1: would increase had we mayor Corey Bowman, but we don't.
- 0:15Speaker 1: But we still get Corey Bowman's resident of the City
- 0:17Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, business owner in the City of Cincinnati, and
- 0:20Speaker 1: a guy who is always paying attention to issues that
- 0:22Speaker 1: are impacting the residents of the city of Cincinnati. Corey Bowman,
- 0:25Speaker 1: Welcome back to the morning show, my friend. It's always
- 0:27Speaker 1: great having you on the program. Joe Well, I see
- 0:37Speaker 1: he's on the line.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Good morning.
- 0:40Speaker 1: What the hell happened to.
- 0:41Speaker 3: Your Sorry my golden retreatment was barking earlier, so I
- 0:47Speaker 3: had it on you just to make sure but.
- 0:50Speaker 2: That we're good.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Appreciate your efforts at providing a clean communication. That's an
- 0:54Speaker 1: important thing to overcome that mute button. Corey Bowman, how
- 0:57Speaker 1: you been house things in your neighborhood? And we pivot
- 1:00Speaker 1: over to people fleeing the city since day I know
- 1:02Speaker 1: there was another person shot this morning, three o'clock in
- 1:04Speaker 1: the morning at was it Walnut Street and Ninth a
- 1:09Speaker 1: little bit outside of your area, but close enough that
- 1:11Speaker 1: I guess this is kind of a common occurrence for you.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Corey Bowman.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good to the point, you know, as the
- 1:18Speaker 3: warmer month, I mean, we see this every year, you know,
- 1:20Speaker 3: as the warmer months happen, then obviously the crime will
- 1:23Speaker 3: go up, more people are out and about, But this year,
- 1:27Speaker 3: just trying to monitor the location specifically, just trying to
- 1:30Speaker 3: get a handle on specific reasons obviously, and what we
- 1:34Speaker 3: can do to kind of raise awareness of it and
- 1:37Speaker 3: possibly affect policy in the future. But yeah, we're definitely
- 1:40Speaker 3: seeing an increase in shooting specifically in our area of
- 1:45Speaker 3: West End OTR very some very sad things happen.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Well, I've seen quite a few articles in you and
- 1:52Speaker 1: I've talked about this before. There seems to be no
- 1:54Speaker 1: acknowledgment that we have a gang problem in downtown, and
- 1:57Speaker 1: you kind of wonder, you know, any given shooting is
- 2:00Speaker 1: something went wrong between the two they knew each other,
- 2:03Speaker 1: they were mad at each other, someone got a little
- 2:05Speaker 1: you know, over zealous in espressing their anger in the
- 2:08Speaker 1: form of gunshot. So that's a dispute between two individuals,
- 2:11Speaker 1: unlike say a random where a guy just unloads a
- 2:14Speaker 1: couple of magazines into a crowd of people, which I've
- 2:16Speaker 1: never understood. You know, there's no specific target and all that.
- 2:19Speaker 1: But tracing it back to the why are people using guns?
- 2:24Speaker 1: Is this in your mind? And have you heard it
- 2:27Speaker 1: is a gang related issue?
- 2:28Speaker 3: We have, Yeah, absolutely, because the biggest issue that we're
- 2:33Speaker 3: seeing with all this is youth bottling youth guns. And
- 2:37Speaker 3: even just recently there was on McMicken there was an
- 2:41Speaker 3: interaction where two seventeen year old, two teenagers were trying
- 2:45Speaker 3: to purchase guns illegally and they led to an altercation.
- 2:50Speaker 3: And what we're seeing here is a major thing of
- 2:52Speaker 3: the youth. Now, when it's happening in the youth, when
- 2:55Speaker 3: it's happening with ages that are in teenage years, this
- 2:59Speaker 3: could be related to gang violence. And then what you're
- 3:01Speaker 3: seeing is that a lot of these shootings are happening
- 3:05Speaker 3: at specific areas. I keep telling the city and other
- 3:09Speaker 3: people that are involved in the process that the number
- 3:12Speaker 3: one areas you got to keep an eye on are
- 3:14Speaker 3: the city parks Downtown, Downtown, Grant Park, Laurel Park, Fairview Park,
- 3:21Speaker 3: these are hotspots.
- 3:22Speaker 2: And these are areas.
- 3:23Speaker 3: Where you know, for I mean, I guess the terminology
- 3:26Speaker 3: is turf.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Wars or areas. You know, these are areas that get hit.
- 3:30Speaker 3: A lot because these are congregated areas for these groups
- 3:33Speaker 3: of teenagers. That the classification is gangs. And we won't
- 3:39Speaker 3: talk about it because of you know, so the negative
- 3:42Speaker 3: connotations behind that of what we've seen in the past.
- 3:45Speaker 3: But that's exactly what's happening downtown.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Well, it seems to run contrary to the argument that
- 3:49Speaker 1: many make. Well, we just need more safe spaces for teams.
- 3:51Speaker 1: We need places for them to gather and you know,
- 3:53Speaker 1: have shared experiences. And I guess one make you gon
- 3:56Speaker 1: make a good argument a park. It's an ideal spot
- 3:59Speaker 1: you can get involved in sporting activities, walk around, commune
- 4:02Speaker 1: with nature, sit and enjoy life. However, but if it
- 4:05Speaker 1: becomes just another slice of turf, like any other slice
- 4:08Speaker 1: of turf, it becomes a magnet then for more violent
- 4:10Speaker 1: So I guess maybe community rec centers could suffer the
- 4:15Speaker 1: same fake Corey. If the gangs decide they want to
- 4:17Speaker 1: claim a community rec center is their turf.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Yeah, and let me tell you about some things we've
- 4:22Speaker 3: experienced number one at Laurel Park. It's about three blocks
- 4:26Speaker 3: away from our church, and I've talked about it before,
- 4:29Speaker 3: but one of our church members, her granddaughter, eleven year
- 4:32Speaker 3: old Queen Irie, was shot on January first of this
- 4:35Speaker 3: year at Laurel Park. I passed by that park every
- 4:39Speaker 3: day driving to whether it be our coffee shop or
- 4:41Speaker 3: our church, and there's nobody playing there.
- 4:44Speaker 2: There's no families out there enjoying that park. It's a
- 4:47Speaker 2: large piece.
- 4:47Speaker 3: The only time that people feel safe is if it's
- 4:50Speaker 3: like a community event or if there's a lot of
- 4:53Speaker 3: people at once strength and number. You're every exactly, but
- 4:56Speaker 3: you're everyday kids playing on the park, it doesn't happen.
- 5:00Speaker 2: So those are things that we're encountering there.
- 5:03Speaker 3: But also last year we had a back to school bash.
- 5:07Speaker 3: We actually reserved the high school stadium that's downtown at
- 5:11Speaker 3: the Stargull Stadium, And what we do for all of
- 5:14Speaker 3: our events like that is we have registration. We blocked
- 5:17Speaker 3: the entrance to the lot of these events that are
- 5:19Speaker 3: held there. It's an open entrance that anybody can come
- 5:23Speaker 3: and go, and so we had security at the front.
- 5:27Speaker 3: We had a police presence there, but the police presence
- 5:30Speaker 3: was there just to show off the SWAT truck and
- 5:32Speaker 3: to be able to make it fun for the community.
- 5:35Speaker 3: But I can't tell you in the West End how
- 5:37Speaker 3: many single moms came up to me, hugged me and
- 5:41Speaker 3: said thank you so much for having this event and
- 5:45Speaker 3: having the registration at the front, because our kids need
- 5:49Speaker 3: a safe place that they can actually enjoy. Because we
- 5:51Speaker 3: had bounce outs.
- 5:52Speaker 2: As food trucks, so the kids were having a blast, but.
- 5:55Speaker 3: They said that rarely they can experience something like that
- 5:58Speaker 3: in the community because of a safety issue. So that's
- 6:01Speaker 3: why I realized that, you know, this is affecting the
- 6:04Speaker 3: whole community and we've got to get a handle on it.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Well, continue with Corey Bowman to a quick break here.
- 6:09Speaker 1: And I saw something happened in Chicago about a week
- 6:12Speaker 1: or so ago, led by ministers as sixty on a
- 6:19Speaker 1: Friday e Brian Thomas Swift Corey Bowman, former mayoral candidate,
- 6:24Speaker 1: on thoughts and impressions about violence and problems with the
- 6:27Speaker 1: with gangs perhaps downtown since say one of the root
- 6:29Speaker 1: causes of violence among the teenagers down there, Corey Bowman,
- 6:32Speaker 1: you mentioned the whole concept of strengthened numbers. People won't
- 6:35Speaker 1: go to the parks. They're typically empty because of the
- 6:37Speaker 1: concerns about violence that obviously have manifested themselves. But when
- 6:41Speaker 1: you have a big group getting together, you got the
- 6:43Speaker 1: bounce house, you got things to do for children and families,
- 6:45Speaker 1: they all show up and Strengthen nothing happens by way
- 6:48Speaker 1: of violence. And it made me think of this strength
- 6:50Speaker 1: and numbers concept. Chicago pastor, oddly enough close to your name.
- 6:54Speaker 1: His name is Corey Brooks. He's behind something called Project
- 6:57Speaker 1: Hood and he hosted this what was called one one
- 7:00Speaker 1: thousand Men Unity gathering a few days ago, declaring that
- 7:04Speaker 1: this was going to be a one hundred percent violence
- 7:06Speaker 1: free zone in the surrounding area. It's about creating a culture,
- 7:09Speaker 1: he said, where men stand together to protect families, mentor
- 7:12Speaker 1: young people, reduce violence, and build something that will outlive us.
- 7:15Speaker 1: It was pastors, mentors active as business leaders, former gang members,
- 7:19Speaker 1: residents from across the area, and they describe the unified
- 7:23Speaker 1: effort to promote safety, accountability, and opportunity. It sounds to
- 7:26Speaker 1: me like residents stepping up and deciding they are not
- 7:30Speaker 1: going to put up with it anymore. Providing that strength
- 7:33Speaker 1: and numbers concept they had. I mean, it's hundreds and
- 7:35Speaker 1: hundreds of people showed up. Now, if they were to
- 7:38Speaker 1: continue this along those lines, members in any given neighbors
- 7:42Speaker 1: in any given community outnumber I'm sure by far the
- 7:46Speaker 1: number of gang members. Right, So, if there's gang members
- 7:48Speaker 1: in your community, you're frightened of them. If the community
- 7:50Speaker 1: were to rise up, maybe engage in neighborhood watch patrols
- 7:53Speaker 1: regularly keep in contact with the police, in other words,
- 7:56Speaker 1: cooperate for the purpose of making their community better, we
- 7:59Speaker 1: could sure you use a lot of that help from
- 8:01Speaker 1: residents within the city Cincinnati, Cory, does it sound like
- 8:03Speaker 1: a concept that could work? Or am I just you know,
- 8:06Speaker 1: live in a pipe dream here?
- 8:09Speaker 2: No? I think obviously does work.
- 8:11Speaker 3: You know. One of the things that we fought on
- 8:13Speaker 3: last year was we've got to fight against the mindset
- 8:15Speaker 3: of optics over outcomes. Right, So a lot of things
- 8:19Speaker 3: do come across as hey, we're here just to take
- 8:22Speaker 3: the pictures to get the news articles. But is it
- 8:24Speaker 3: really making a difference. And there's things that we've got
- 8:27Speaker 3: our hand in in the West End right now which
- 8:31Speaker 3: I truly believe are making an impact. You know, one
- 8:33Speaker 3: of the things is that we actually just hosted at
- 8:36Speaker 3: our coffee shop a west End business council and business
- 8:42Speaker 3: owners in the West End came together at our coffe
- 8:44Speaker 3: shop that was hosted by Galen Gordon, who is the
- 8:48Speaker 3: president of the West End Community Council, and just having
- 8:51Speaker 3: those conversations with community leaders and seeing what's the best
- 8:54Speaker 3: way we can do to further A lot of it
- 8:56Speaker 3: isn't even just talking about crime and talking about how
- 8:59Speaker 3: to we further development. How can we work with the
- 9:02Speaker 3: city to kind of bypass a lot of red tape
- 9:05Speaker 3: to make sure that we get growth going as quickly
- 9:08Speaker 3: as possible in our communities. Because I mean our coffee shop,
- 9:12Speaker 3: the block just by our coffee shop being there has
- 9:15Speaker 3: completely changed where the crime just on our in our
- 9:19Speaker 3: short area there, you don't really see a lot of
- 9:22Speaker 3: activity there. Now three or four blocks late down the
- 9:25Speaker 3: road you might see something.
- 9:27Speaker 2: But we've got our hand in that and we're trying
- 9:29Speaker 2: to grow those groups. And then there's you.
- 9:32Speaker 3: Mentioned the Passers gathering pastor James Strayhorn, who is also
- 9:37Speaker 3: in the West End. He works with us the City
- 9:40Speaker 3: League Center in the west End and we've just come
- 9:43Speaker 3: on board with him it's called a Faith Advisory Council
- 9:47Speaker 3: or spiritual Advisory council. I've joined him with the National
- 9:51Speaker 3: Day of Prayer. Was able to meet a lot of
- 9:53Speaker 3: local passers and leaders at that, and we're going to
- 9:56Speaker 3: be meeting on a regular basis to discuss how we
- 9:59Speaker 3: can do community outreach. One of those is like what
- 10:02Speaker 3: we talked about the back to school bashe we're continuing
- 10:04Speaker 3: that in a couple other summer programs this year. So
- 10:08Speaker 3: there's a lot of good things happening. But you know,
- 10:10Speaker 3: it's a marathon, it's not a spread. This is something
- 10:13Speaker 3: that it's going to take everybody, and it's going to
- 10:15Speaker 3: take consistency. And I think that's something that a lot,
- 10:18Speaker 3: unfortunately a lot of elected officials don't understand, is that
- 10:22Speaker 3: it's not about climbing the ladder to get to a
- 10:24Speaker 3: state or federal level. It's about having the consistency locally
- 10:30Speaker 3: to make the impact in our city that we love.
- 10:33Speaker 1: Does outreach from you know, pastors, ministers and the religious community,
- 10:37Speaker 1: does that have an impact? Does it resonate with young
- 10:40Speaker 1: people anymore. I'm kind of worried to even ask that
- 10:42Speaker 1: question because I'm afraid you're going to say no, they
- 10:45Speaker 1: do not have faith, they do not have a belief
- 10:47Speaker 1: in a higher power or something that's bigger than them,
- 10:49Speaker 1: because that seems to be the direction we're going.
- 10:52Speaker 3: Well, what we believe is that, you know, the Bible
- 10:55Speaker 3: talks about Jesus said that we're fishers of men. So
- 10:57Speaker 3: if you're a good fisherman, you got to have some
- 11:00Speaker 3: you got to have a law or a good net.
- 11:02Speaker 3: And that's what these outreaches are to us. It's a
- 11:04Speaker 3: way to be able to grab a hold of these
- 11:07Speaker 3: young people because they'll always come to the events. They
- 11:10Speaker 3: want to have a good time, right, But then what
- 11:12Speaker 3: it's going to take is consistent discipleship and leadership. One
- 11:16Speaker 3: thing I've realized is that a lot of young men
- 11:19Speaker 3: specifically will come into our church on Sundays and I'll
- 11:22Speaker 3: have conversations with them, and they are hungry for strong
- 11:26Speaker 3: male leadership. I try to talk with a lot of
- 11:28Speaker 3: guys in our community. There's a business owner, his name's
- 11:32Speaker 3: Jeremy Wilson. He owns Wilson Maintenance that lives right across
- 11:36Speaker 3: the street from my coffee shop, and there's probably about
- 11:39Speaker 3: ten young men that he's always trying to correct or
- 11:43Speaker 3: trying to disciple because the community is hungry for strong
- 11:47Speaker 3: male leadership, strong mail role models, and I think like
- 11:51Speaker 3: bringing the pastors together, having a community church like we
- 11:55Speaker 3: do in the West End, to where we're not necessarily
- 11:58Speaker 3: on the outskirts. We're there for the community every Sunday
- 12:01Speaker 3: speaking the Word of God, but also providing that connection.
- 12:05Speaker 3: And I think that's something that's very important. We're seeing
- 12:09Speaker 3: results in it. I've seen it in several young men
- 12:12Speaker 3: in our church to where we've seen them, you know,
- 12:15Speaker 3: whether it be an unexpected pregnancy with a girl that
- 12:18Speaker 3: they're with and all of a sudden their relationship is flourishing.
- 12:21Speaker 3: They're able to be a good father, they're able to
- 12:23Speaker 3: be strong in their job and in their career. So
- 12:26Speaker 3: we do see the difference. We do see change like that,
- 12:30Speaker 3: but like what you said, strengthen numbers. We need all
- 12:33Speaker 3: hands on deck and everybody kind of contributing consistently.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what, I wish parents plural were
- 12:40Speaker 1: part of that equation more than they seem to be.
- 12:42Speaker 1: You know, no way in hell that I could have
- 12:44Speaker 1: gotten away with being out at two o'clock in the
- 12:46Speaker 1: morning on a weeknight when my house I know what
- 12:49Speaker 1: that have led to and the parents don't make them
- 12:51Speaker 1: take a more, you know, active role in minding their
- 12:54Speaker 1: children and sending them on the right path. Maybe get
- 12:56Speaker 1: them over to church on a weekends so they can
- 12:58Speaker 1: interact with you. Don't go away more with Corey Bowman
- 13:00Speaker 1: six forty seven fifty five KRCD talk Station USA Premium
- 13:03Speaker 1: Foe It's an outstanding It's six fifty one to fifty
- 13:07Speaker 1: five kr CD talk Station. Happy FRIDAYE Brian Thomas Smith
- 13:11Speaker 1: Corey Bowman form a mayoral candidate ceed The population of
- 13:14Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati dropped by five hundred in the
- 13:17Speaker 1: twenty twenty five calendar year. He said, it's kind of
- 13:19Speaker 1: reversing a trend. I guess the city's population was gradually
- 13:22Speaker 1: increasing since the twenty twenty census, but dropped a little
- 13:26Speaker 1: bit last year. But the increase it's according to the
- 13:29Speaker 1: reporting for in Biz Journal, that this has something to
- 13:32Speaker 1: do with the immigration and that migration patterns have changed
- 13:36Speaker 1: a little bit. I guess with Donald Trump cracking down
- 13:38Speaker 1: on illegal immigrants coming into the country, we had significant
- 13:41Speaker 1: gains in the Hispanic share of the population for the
- 13:43Speaker 1: first time in twenty twenty sixty one percent of the
- 13:46Speaker 1: population growth in that year was attributed to their moving
- 13:49Speaker 1: into the area. So is that what we are relying
- 13:53Speaker 1: on in terms of bringing people into the city so
- 13:55Speaker 1: they can work and thrive and pay taxes to the
- 13:58Speaker 1: city coffers doesn't sound like a recipe for success if
- 14:00Speaker 1: you can rely on the illegal immigrant community. Corey Bowman
- 14:03Speaker 1: your thoughts.
- 14:05Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that was something that at the beginning
- 14:08Speaker 3: of the campaign last year, we were looking at the
- 14:10Speaker 3: population growth and we once we started diving into the numbers,
- 14:14Speaker 3: we realized that much of the growth of what they
- 14:17Speaker 3: were touting in Cincinnati was due to immigration. And then
- 14:22Speaker 3: you start looking at that throughout every major city, you know.
- 14:25Speaker 3: I mean, as we were running our race, we were
- 14:27Speaker 3: watching races in New York City, and even now we're
- 14:30Speaker 3: seeing races in LA and city officials, you know, running
- 14:34Speaker 3: for office, whether it be for mayor you're seeing what
- 14:37Speaker 3: Spencer Pratt is doing over there. But with these debates
- 14:40Speaker 3: and with all these you know, races happening, you start
- 14:45Speaker 3: realizing that it's the same issues all across the board
- 14:47Speaker 3: for all these major cities, and a lot of these
- 14:50Speaker 3: major cities were trying to up the population based on immigration,
- 14:55Speaker 3: and a lot of it had to do with votes,
- 14:57Speaker 3: a lot of it have to do with census and
- 14:59Speaker 3: make sure that they secure their district and secure all
- 15:02Speaker 3: of that as well.
- 15:03Speaker 2: But also I.
- 15:04Speaker 3: Would say that you know, a city's population growth that's
- 15:08Speaker 3: primarily dependent on that, you're you're gonna see, You're not
- 15:13Speaker 3: going to see the best results you can.
- 15:15Speaker 2: That's just because you know, we've always been a city.
- 15:18Speaker 3: To where a lot of young people in the rural
- 15:20Speaker 3: areas are on the outskirts of Cincinnati.
- 15:23Speaker 2: They want to move to the city. They want to.
- 15:25Speaker 3: Move for jobs and for opportunities, and we're not seeing
- 15:29Speaker 3: those same reasons why people are moving into the city.
- 15:31Speaker 3: And it's sad because you're not going to see the
- 15:34Speaker 3: growth like what we would want to in the.
- 15:36Speaker 1: Future, no doubt about it. And then moving over real quick,
- 15:38Speaker 1: just your thoughts and comments on the preservation of affordable housing,
- 15:42Speaker 1: one of Cincinnati's largest low income housing. They've been in
- 15:45Speaker 1: ongoing issues with toxic chemicals just again reported by w
- 15:48Speaker 1: CBO chloroform benzing. There's lawsuits out there, no hot water, mold,
- 15:53Speaker 1: sewage backups, rats, and otherwise generally poor living conditions. It's
- 15:57Speaker 1: been an ongoing phenomenon this and do you know what
- 16:01Speaker 1: the genesis of this is? And there any way around it?
- 16:03Speaker 3: Corey Bawman, Yeah, A lot of this has to do
- 16:07Speaker 3: with just not a lot of accountability locally where HUG
- 16:10Speaker 3: funding is going, where the city funding is going.
- 16:13Speaker 2: When it comes to.
- 16:13Speaker 3: Landlords and for lack of better word, slum lords. We
- 16:17Speaker 3: noticed that the first year we started our church that
- 16:20Speaker 3: people that were involved in our church congregation members they
- 16:23Speaker 3: were living in these affordable housing of POEA houses CMHA,
- 16:27Speaker 3: and a lot of them were getting mistreated. But then
- 16:30Speaker 3: as we looked into all the details of it, we
- 16:32Speaker 3: realize that they're well funded. They're getting a lot of
- 16:36Speaker 3: money to do what they do, and it's not being
- 16:39Speaker 3: reflected in their care, their maintenance of the building, or
- 16:43Speaker 3: their care of their tenants. And so I keep telling
- 16:45Speaker 3: I keep telling people, you're seeing fraud throughout the country
- 16:50Speaker 3: when it comes to like the medicaid and what you're
- 16:53Speaker 3: seeing the learning centers in Minneapolis. You're seeing a lot
- 16:56Speaker 3: of man medicaid fraud that's happening in Columbus right now.
- 17:00Speaker 3: I tell people that the fraud that's happening in Cincinnati
- 17:03Speaker 3: all has to do with the HUD funding. That has
- 17:06Speaker 3: to do with the affordable housing, and that's why they
- 17:09Speaker 3: keep pushing every year we need more housing, housing, housing housing. Well,
- 17:14Speaker 3: you know when you keep pushing that, it's because people's
- 17:16Speaker 3: pockets are getting deeper, deeper, deeper and deeper.
- 17:20Speaker 1: No accountability. Gee, we're on a trend here with that.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Just throw money out into the world, say it's going
- 17:26Speaker 1: to a good cause, and don't follow up to see
- 17:29Speaker 1: whether that money actually resulted in what you threw it
- 17:31Speaker 1: out there for.
- 17:32Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, No, I mean there's a single mom behind
- 17:36Speaker 3: my church that you know, lives in a poe of
- 17:38Speaker 3: building and she didn't have heat or ac for the
- 17:42Speaker 3: first year that she's living there with her kids. When
- 17:44Speaker 3: they call to try to say, hey, there's mold in
- 17:48Speaker 3: my apartment, they literally get told, of verbatim, hey just
- 17:51Speaker 3: wipe it up with bleaks or spray paint over it.
- 17:55Speaker 3: And then if they continue to be a problem as
- 17:57Speaker 3: far as complaining about it, well then they get a
- 17:59Speaker 3: VIC because there's a long list of people that want
- 18:02Speaker 3: to step into this housing.
- 18:04Speaker 2: And so I get it.
- 18:06Speaker 3: When it comes to affordable housing, we really need to
- 18:08Speaker 3: have a system that helps people out of it eventually
- 18:12Speaker 3: it doesn't need to be a long term solution for
- 18:15Speaker 3: generation and generation. But then at the same time people
- 18:18Speaker 3: have caught on to this is a money funneling system.
- 18:22Speaker 3: You know, if I can get money, you know, by
- 18:24Speaker 3: being a property owner and get it classify as thirty
- 18:27Speaker 3: sixty percent AMI, if I can get all these grants
- 18:31Speaker 3: and programs, and then the sad thing is that if
- 18:34Speaker 3: it is in bad condition, if they keep it in
- 18:37Speaker 3: bad condition, well then that's the appearance of they need
- 18:41Speaker 3: more money so they can better take care of their building.
- 18:44Speaker 2: So it's almost done by purpose.
- 18:46Speaker 3: Where as long as there's the appearance of needing more money,
- 18:50Speaker 3: the money will continue to flow, not only from the
- 18:53Speaker 3: federal not only from the state, but.
- 18:54Speaker 2: From the city budget as well. And it's the taxpayers
- 18:57Speaker 2: that are suffering.
- 18:58Speaker 1: Because and the residents of the so called affordable housing
- 19:01Speaker 1: units that have to live with no heat and rats
- 19:03Speaker 1: and apparently toxic chemicals as well. Corey Bowman, you hit
- 19:06Speaker 1: the nail on the head on the end there, brother,
- 19:07Speaker 1: appreciate you joining the program. Go over Corey's coffee shop,
- 19:11Speaker 1: King's Arms. You'll find it. Just look for the cops
- 19:13Speaker 1: hanging around in his neighborhood thanks to Corey Bowman putting
- 19:16Speaker 1: a business there. Corey, God bless you, sir. We'll talk
- 19:18Speaker 1: again real soon. Have a wonderful rest of the week,
- 19:20Speaker 1: my friend.
- 19:21Speaker 2: Hey you too as well, Brian, Thank you so.
- 19:23Speaker 1: Much, thank you. It's six fifty seven. Congressman Warren Davidson
- 19:26Speaker 1: coming up next.