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- 0:00Hello there and welcome back to
- 0:01Hydroponics Daily, your go-to podcast for everything soilless cultivation.
- 0:06I'm your host, Dr. Russell Sharp, the founder of Utrema Limited.
- 0:10Now, when it comes to hydroponics, there are lots of positive environmental
- 0:15claims that can be made, like if you're using a recirculatory system,
- 0:19the reduction in water use is extremely dramatic compared to conventionally grown crops.
- 0:24And you can make all sorts of
- 0:27claims about carbon footprints of the crops compared to bringing them in from
- 0:32other regions depending on where you are growing crops and where you're consuming
- 0:35them but one of the big disadvantages of hydroponic and greenhouse cultivation
- 0:41and indoor cultivation has always been the need to enrich the growing.
- 0:47Environment with co2 for optimal conditions because
- 0:51normally you in a
- 0:53large scale greenhouse you'll have a burner a gas burner
- 0:56that will triple the amount of co2 in there after that the contaminants in the
- 1:02in the flue gas will lead to detrimental effects and it will no longer be economical
- 1:07to increase the co2 levels beyond 1000 parts per million same in indoor growing however in,
- 1:14indoor growing you might use co2 canisters to
- 1:18remove that need for burning but people still use burners indoors
- 1:22but you have to be really careful so both of them rely
- 1:26on the burning of fossil fuels to to triple
- 1:29that co2 level and that's been one of the big issues and it's
- 1:31a real big problem where you have these greenhouses that are
- 1:35in the middle of summer putting burning co2 and then having the vents open which
- 1:39is crazy so there is a new type of technology and i am not an expert in it but
- 1:44it does seem sound promising to that it could potentially lead to co2 enrichment
- 1:50without the need to burn CO2.
- 1:52And the CO2, the carbon footprint of it is massively low if you're using renewable energies.
- 2:00Things like solar or wind or...
- 2:05Tidal, or even nuclear to create the energy to capture the CO2.
- 2:11And it's called DAC or direct air capture.
- 2:15And I'm not sure how it works, but basically you can capture CO2 from the ambient
- 2:20air, concentrate it, and then put that into your growing environment.
- 2:25And there is a Japanese company that is leading the way and it's coming to European
- 2:30greenhouses. So it's going to be at.
- 2:35Seibu Gaiken, B-S-T-A-B. That's a really interesting, easy to remember name.
- 2:42Part of the Japanese publicly listed Seibu Gaiken group.
- 2:46They're experts in air treatment and so potentially these units will be coming to large greenhouses.
- 2:54Obviously not small scale growers to
- 2:56begin with because these are very large units but potentially
- 3:00they could be a good thing because as well
- 3:03as increasing co2 it could potentially remove volatile
- 3:06organic compounds modify the humidity
- 3:09even look at things like temperature as well so it's
- 3:13been tested in japan and the trials have been
- 3:16successful and they've done trials in 30 crops in the fukuoka prefecture i have
- 3:24no idea where that is and i've been to japan so sorry i can't help you there
- 3:28and they showed an average increase of 20% in yield compared to when using their
- 3:33system compared to without CO2.
- 3:35Other methods of CO2 enrichment that don't rely on fossil fuels are things like
- 3:39CO2 from breweries, natural sources of CO2, microbial digestion,
- 3:45however they can contain.
- 3:49Deleterious gases like ethylene so you have to be careful you
- 3:52have to be able to scrub that so there's a few people working at that sort
- 3:55of side of it but a really interesting new
- 3:59potential of using this DAC direct air capture technology
- 4:02if you are running on fossil fuels then
- 4:05the footprint can rise to you know half a
- 4:08ton of CO2 emitted for every CO2 ton of CO2
- 4:11captured which sort of erodes the advantage so clean
- 4:15energy is key for this technology if you really want to
- 4:17talk about its benefits beyond just
- 4:20clean co2 now these units won't be
- 4:23produced anywhere near the same amount of heat as a gas burner
- 4:26that could be an advantage so you could keep you don't
- 4:29have to waste the heat in the summer and
- 4:32so it could be really good useful or it could be a disadvantage because you
- 4:36are not getting that heat when you need it in the crop
- 4:38so you might have to look at other sources of heat like
- 4:41ground source heat pumps that can be run on renewable energy
- 4:44but you know there's there's lots of options
- 4:47you have electrical heaters if you've got if you've got renewable energy and
- 4:50ample sources of it in your area or you
- 4:53could have both you could have a gas burner for the
- 4:56winter and the colder at times and then you could have direct air capture
- 4:59DAC systems in the summer now i'm
- 5:02not sure if this technology has is really proven if it's.
- 5:05Ready to go or if it's still experimental and i'm
- 5:08sure there are engineers who know more about it than me so more than happy to
- 5:12be a late adopter of this technology especially as i don't run large-scale commercial
- 5:16grasshouses be interesting to know if vertical farms take up this technology
- 5:20first or whether it's large-scale greenhouses and you know cucumber and tomato
- 5:25growers or is it indoor growers,
- 5:27you know small scale is illegal cannabis growers could potentially
- 5:30use this with a clean source of co2 let me
- 5:34know your thoughts would really be interested to know if you've got any
- 5:36experience of working with this is this old hat have
- 5:39i not just just never come across it before and it's you know it's it's widespread
- 5:44the problem is the units look like a lot of units you get in greenhouse trade
- 5:48shows so i don't know if it's something completely new or if it's something
- 5:51bog standard i think the unique technology is inside the big plastic big metal box with.
- 5:58Flu tubes coming in and out so let me know
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