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EP 49: Building A 2026 NFL Draft Top 50 Big Board Vs. The ESPN Top 50 - Part 1 (Players 1-6) · 3 Guys, 6 Balls NFL Podcast

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  3 lifelong friends, 6 trusty balls and endless NFL ticks.
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  Welcome to three guys 6 Balls NFL Podcast.
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  Welcome to episode 49 of Three guys 6 Balls NFL podcast.
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  I'm your host Joel, and I'm here with my two Co hosts Will and
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  Avery. The NFL season is officially
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  over after the Seattle Seahawks beat the New England Patriots in
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  the Super Bowl, so Congrats to them.
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  But that means it's officially the offseason for every NFL
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  team, which means it's time to start doing our scouting reports
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  for the upcoming 2026 NFL Draft. However, before we get there, I
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  just wanted to get your guys's quick thoughts on the Super
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  Bowl. Will, I know you're eager to
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  throw some Drake May shade here, so why don't you start us off?
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  Man, that guy played terrible for three and a third quarters
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  of. That game.
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  Just, I mean, honestly, awful missing open guys, but he was
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  moved off the spot. OK.
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  Well, he is. He's an NFL quarterback.
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  He was runner up in the MVP. OK, runner up, Matthew.
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  All Matthew Stafford did against that team was throw for like 900
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  yards, 8 touchdowns, no picks. Now, yeah, they played three
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  times, but still in the playoffs.
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  Matt Stafford, Matthew Stafford. Excuse me, I want to disrespect
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  the man. Matthew Stafford threw for 375
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  or something like that. Yards, 3 touchdowns.
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  The NFC Championship was a significantly better game than
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  the Super Bowl. I mean, there's just no other
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  way to say that the the AFC Championship was even arguably a
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  better game than that Super Bowl.
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  Seattle showed up ready to play. The Patriots showed up, I guess.
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  And that's pretty much all that happened.
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  Like it, it is. It was a dominant performance
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  from the very start by Seattle and and then the Patriots.
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  I don't know if they're going to be back.
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  This is one of those moments like like Dan Marino lived this,
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  right? I'm not calling Drake made as
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  good as Dan Marino by any means, but there's another second year
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  quarterback that or another quarterback that made their
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  second year and is yet to get back and that's Joe Burrow and
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  they lost it. And that team has just never
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  been good enough to get all the way back.
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  And the way Will Campbell was put on his ass.
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  Sorry Dwayne, over and over and over again.
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  Look, he's going to get better. There's no way he doesn't get
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  better. He's a rookie this year.
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  His college career has never gone 20 games or 21 games or
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  however many games they played. He's exhausted.
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  I'm not calling him the worst. I'm not calling him bad, but he
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  got beat on almost every single point in the Super Bowl and it
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  showed. Will's always out here stealing
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  everything I want to say, because that's exactly what I
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  was going to say, is I think that Super Bowl could have been
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  the only chance that the Patriots had to win a Super Bowl
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  for a long time. Yeah, I I really do.
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  I think that Super Bowl was the Patriots only chance to win a
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  Super Bowl for a very long time. The chances of them ever having
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  that easy of a schedule to the Super Bowl again are not high.
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  I understand that they played top defenses in every playoff
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  game, but the most points that they had to score to win a game
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  before the Super Bowl was 17 points.
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  In two of the games, all they had to do was score 10 points.
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  With all these quarterbacks in the AFC that you didn't have to
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  play this year, there's just no way that the future playoff
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  friends you're going to have are going to be against three
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  offenses that are just horrendous.
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  I'm not saying the Patriots are going to be bad, but it's
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  incredibly hard to make the Super Bowl, and the Patriots had
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  probably the easiest road to the Super Bowl we've ever seen.
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  And I'm not saying that they won't get back to the Super Bowl
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  ever, but I am saying that it's a lot harder to do than what
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  they had to do this year. So I hope Patriots fans enjoyed
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  it because I don't see it happening again anytime soon.
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  This sorry, here you go. Oh, I, I just, I first, I want
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  to give a shout out to Austin, one of my buddies from home, and
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  my 2 cousins, one of which has aired on the show, both of which
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  have been on the show, but all three of them big Seahawks fans.
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  And they've got to be feeling pretty good right now.
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  That being said, I, I feel like the game went exactly as
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  everyone kind of thought it would.
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  I feel like everyone kind of except Patriots fans.
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  Yeah. And if you're from Boston, it's
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  like, yeah, like this. Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like, I want both
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  teams to lose. It's like, I get it, I get that.
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  But no, I feel like everyone tried to give some different
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  takes just for the sake of parody maybe.
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  But this the game went exactly as I feel like everyone kind of
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  thought it would. Seahawks just kind of impose
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  their will. Drake May was still the same
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  Drake May. That wasn't, you know, facing,
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  you know, whether lesser opponents or, you know,
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  opponents that had just worst games or the Broncos that lost
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  their their quarterback. And then, you know, the the you
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  know, this not yesterday. Sunday was their day of
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  reckoning. So I thought the Seahawks
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  deserved it. I thought they went through the
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  gauntlet. I thought they, you know,
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  performed well the whole season. Honestly, good for them.
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  I'm really happy for Sam Darnold.
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  I feel like, you know, just as one of those guys that just
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  definitely got written off. I mean, even after fourteen wins
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  in Minnesota, still got written off, went to the Seahawks and
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  won it. So I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm happy
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  just because, you know, I'm from the Pacific Northwest.
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  Not a Seahawks fan myself, but I know a lot of them.
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  But I like to see the Pacific Northwest beat on Boston, so it
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  was fun. The amount of people that were
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  missing from work Monday, I live in the Pacific Northwest
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  currently if we're not at work on Monday was a lot higher than
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  I was expecting actually. I was like, oh wow, you're not
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  here, you're not here. You know what?
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  Well how it all pre planned you took the day off beforehand you
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  you knew. So yeah, last touch thing here,
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  the Patriots on and this stats been going around a bunch so
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  you've probably seen it or heard it or what not.
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  The Patriots had 53 drives in the postseason.
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  Their points per drive were 1.13.
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  The O and 17 Browns, 2017 O and 17 or O and 16 Browns, excuse
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  me, from 2017, their points per drive for the whole season. 1.33
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  they were. Now, granted, your sample size
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  is different and it's easier to have a lower number because
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  you've got less attempts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  The math is the math right in your cherry picking stats to fit
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  the narrative. But still, that's really bad.
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  That's really bad. That that.
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  I mean, how many punts in a row was it for the Patriots in the
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  Super Bowl? Like 6 or 8 or something like
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  that? And then the halftime happened.
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  It's like, all right, well, come back out.
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  We're punting again. It's it's they played it.
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  They played bad. They just played bad.
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  Before Joel gets into the main topic, I do want to give a
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  special shout out to the North Carolina Tar Heels, who LED for
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  less than half a second in the whole game and came out and beat
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  Duke 00. As much as I like the Buccaneers
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  and the NFL, it's it pales in comparison to Carolina beating
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  Duke. It is a sweet, sweet, tender
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  mercy of the Lord that I get to experience in this life watching
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  Carolina beat Duke. And it is there's nothing like
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  it. And especially in that way, in a
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  way that will be played for the next few decades when they show
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  highlights of Carolina Duke like this is this is in there now.
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  It wasn't enough that we beat Coach K in his last game at
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  Cameron. It wasn't enough that we beat
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  Coach K in his final game in their first time meeting in not
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  only the tournament, but in the final four with Caleb and his
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  Caleb loves amazing 3 pointer over Mark Williams.
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  Anyway, I just want to say go Tar Heels and Duke and suck it.
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  And I'm not going to apologize to my dad because he 100% agrees
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  with that. All right, Joel.
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  All right, well, Congrats to the Tar Heels and Congrats to the
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  Seattle Seahawks for winning the Super Bowl.
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  Joe, I'm sorry, Hold on. Is this just like a regular
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  season game? A freak?
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  This isn't even like the ACC Tournament, no.
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  And and and they play each other twice, so that's not even like
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  the one time they play them. And they could also play them in
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  the ACC tournament. But it's Duke.
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  Duke has only lost one game. Duke has.
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  Duke was like 20 and one and only lost that one game to a
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  really good team who only beat them by 1.
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  So they came in there like ready to like beat the brakes off
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  Carolina and they were doing that and then choked.
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  They choked and gave up an amazing basically buzzer beater
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  to the star. Well, not even the star.
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  I mean, Caleb Caleb Wilson is a star, but Seth Trimble total
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  blue blood senior Carolina storybook storybook ending.
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  But yes, you're right. It was just in the middle of the
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  season. That's how big it.
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  Was fair enough, OK. All right, so today we're going
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  to get into some scouting reports to start off the NFL
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  draft season. And so last year when we started
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  our podcast, we started in March and we kind of got a late start
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  to the NFL draft process. We also had no idea what we were
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  doing, so there wasn't much structure at the time when it
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  came to scattering reports. So this year what we're going to
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  do is we're going to go through the ESPN Top 50 Big Board and
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  we're going to scout the players and then we're going to rank
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  them based off where we think they should go and make our own
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  Top 50 Big Board. So the plan right now is is to
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  do 6 players a week. We'll see how today goes, see if
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  we can get through 6, but we plan on doing 6 a week and this
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  is how it's going to work. So after today, we're going to
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  rank the players how we think they should be ranked one
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  through 6. And then next week, we'll go
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  through the players 7 through 12 on the ESPN Top 50 Big Board and
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  then put those players into our rankings.
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  So if we feel like #7 on the ESPN Top 50 Big Board should be
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  ranked either higher or lower, we will then move him around to
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  where we think he should go into the top 12.
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  And then the following week, we do the same thing with players
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  13 through 18 and so on. So we're going to start by
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  giving the scouting reports for players one through 6 on the
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  ESPN top 50 big board. And then at the end of the show,
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  we'll rank them how we feel like they should go on our own top 50
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  big board. So just so you guys know who
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  those top six are. For the ESPN's top 50, the
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  number one player is Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza #2
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  is Ohio State linebacker Arville Reese #3 is Notre Dame running
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  back Jeremiah love #4, Texas Tech edge David Bailey #5 Ohio
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  State safety Caleb Downs. And number six is Miami edge
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  Ruben Bain junior. Those are the top 6 we're going
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  to go over today, starting with #1 which is Indiana quarterback
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  Fernando Mendoza. I am going to share my screen
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  because I have a slideshow with scouting reports for you guys
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  courtesy of ChatGPT. So.
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  Don't reveal the secrets. No, I did this all myself.
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  I made all the images and everything.
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  We had it all myself next. Time we have a graphics guy OK
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  they didn't even notice you when the Internet graphics.
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  Guy, the show's been getting big.
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  We've been putting it off for a bit, but we finally pulled the
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  trigger. That's right.
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  All right, so #1 Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza.
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  Avery, give us your scouting report for Fernando Mendoza.
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  Here's the thing, I think he is. I want to, I want to preface
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  this by saying I do think he is the top prospect.
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  I think he is probably the biggest game changer in the
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  draft. However, that being said, this
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  feels a little bit like the Trubisky situation and not
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  exactly the same. It's definitely not a one to one
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  comparison, but more like gay. Where was this guy ranked, you
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  know, coming out of Cal? And then you see him here at at
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  Indiana and and as insane of a season as it was, it is kind of
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  a question of, OK, was this Mendoza?
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  Was this the coach? Was this different?
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  You know, I mean, he had an incredible season, but it was
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  one of those things as a Oregon fan who had to endure this game
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  twice, there was something about that that didn't really seem
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  like a superstar player necessarily.
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  I'm not saying he isn't. But it was something that it was
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  so well coached and such a great game plan that we just got
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  exposed everywhere. And normally, I mean, any any
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  NFL def, any football defense, it's like, yeah, that there's
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  going to be weaknesses. The trick is, can the
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  quarterback, you know, find it? And maybe that is what it is.
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  What I'm curious to see. And it's really just this next
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  season is OK, is Indiana going to be just as good?
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  Is it more of a system? Is Fernando Mendoza just a
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  product of a great system and a great coach?
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  Or is he actually a great, you know, as good as advertised?
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  Meaning if you swap any other quarterback that's, you know, at
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  least a, a, a, a decent, you know, draft prospect and you put
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  him at Indiana, would he have had just as good a season is
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  what is basically what I'm what I'm coming at.
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  And so I feel like a lot of the reason he is the number one and,
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  and I don't just mean #1 but like unanimous #1 pick is
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  because of the season he had. But it wasn't just him.
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  I mean, yeah, I think the the scramble he had was it was
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  incredible. I think he's very, very
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  deserving of it, But I think next season will be interesting
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  to see, OK, Signetti and Mendoza, you know, kind of like
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  Brady and Belichick, it's like, hey, who's really pulling the
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  most weight here? So having said that, I think
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  he's got all the physical tools. I think his mentality is great.
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  I think the fact that he's just simply just seems to just want
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  to get to work and just seems like a great positive influence
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  in the locker room. I mean, I don't think it's a
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  question he should be #1 I would just like to see, OK, you had a
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  really good situation last year. Let's see how you do in Las
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  Vegas with the Raiders. So I'm, I'm, I'm curious to see
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  it, but I do still feel like he is the number one.
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  Yeah, I. Really like Fernando Mendoza a
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  lot. I think he's very smart and he's
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  got a very high football IQ. I think he processes things very
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  well both pre and post snap, so he's able to diagnose coverages
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  very well and he understands what he needs to do to
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  effectively attack a defense. It was the most efficient
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  quarterback in college football last year rating of 182.9, which
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  is higher than Jackson Dart was in 2024, which is one of the
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  reasons why I loved Jackson Dart.
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  So he was more efficient than Jackson Dart was in 2024.
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  One of the things I love most about Fernando Mendoza 2 is he's
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  very, very accurate. He specifically is accurate in
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  short to mid range throws and in the season he completed 73% of
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  his passes. He had six games this year where
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  he completed over 85% and three more games where he completed
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  over 91%, which is crazy. And the reason why he's so good
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  at his accuracy is because his ball placement is elite.
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  In my long history of being a scout, this is the number one
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  quarterback that I've seen with ball placement.
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  He has elite ball placement, specifically outside the
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  numbers. He is the probably the best back
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  shoulder passer that I've seen going into the NFL draft.
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  His back shoulder throws are insane.
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  Ball placement is perfect every time.
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  He gives his guy the opportunity and only his guy the opportunity
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  to catch the ball. He is very, very good with ball
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  placement and accuracy. One thing I love about him too
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  is he is very poised in the pocket.
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  He is a more traditional quarterback.
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  He does have some movement ability, but he's more of a
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  traditional quarterback versus one of these guys like a Josh
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  Allen or Lamar Jackson. He stands in the pocket, he
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  delivers the ball, he's tough inside the pocket, he stands
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  there, he takes hits and it doesn't seem like it fazes him.
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  There's really a really a lot to like about Fernando Mendoza, but
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  specifically I think how smart he is and his quick mental
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  processing is really where he wins the game.
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  I guess it means it's my turn. Hey, hey guys, I'm here too.
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  I I'd like to agree and disagree with both of you guys.
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  I think, and maybe this is what you meant.
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  I think he's the clear number one pick.
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  I don't think, and this is a getting ahead of us here.
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  I don't think he's the best prospect in the draft.
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  There's no way the Raiders. There's.
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  No way the Raiders don't take him.
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  You can't, you can't not take this guy at 6 foot 5.
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  He's got good enough arm talents for the NFL.
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  He doesn't have he's not Josh Allen, he's not matching Holmes.
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  He's not slinging the ball 85 yards on the field.
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  That's an exaggeration. Don't at me.
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  But as Drill said, he puts the ball right where he needs to
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  every time he makes the smart throws.
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  I disagree with you a little bit.
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  Drill I I don't think he's I I think he's easily upsettable in
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  the pocket. I don't even know the story
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  where to put it. I think that when the pressure
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  gets to him, he starts to, I want to say panic.
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  He starts to work for your way out.
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  That's when he starts to run, when he starts to scramble,
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  right? Well, that's the thing.
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  So that's the thing I didn't get to yet is while he's in the
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  pocket, if he has time in the pocket to deliver the ball, he
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  is very, very accurate. But when he when he gets pushed
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  out of the pocket, he's not as much, he's completion percentage
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  drops significantly. When he gets moved off of his
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  spot and has to move outside of the pocket, it drops down to
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  53.2%. So where the Raiders are really
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  going to have to help him is build his offensive line,
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  because if they don't, the Raiders are going to be doing a
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  huge disservice to Mendoza. But I think that Clint Kubiak is
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  going to be the perfect coach for Mendoza going into the NFL
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  because he just worked with Sam Darnold.
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  And what was a big thing that everybody said about Sam
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  Darnold? For a long time, when he gets
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  pressure, he's not good. But that wasn't the case with
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  Clint Kubiak as his offensive coordinator.
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  So Clint Kubiak's coming from Sam Darnold where everybody said
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  he couldn't handle the pressure. Same thing with Mendoza.
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  If Mendoza goes into Las Vegas and he has a good offensive line
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  around him, Clint Kubiak will figure out how to get the best
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  out of Fernando Mendoza. I just think that when he has a
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  clean pocket, he's able to stand in the pocket, step up, set his
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  feet, deliver the ball accurately, but when he gets
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  flushed out, you're correct, that is where he struggles a
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  little bit. Right.
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  And OK, so I guess we're on the same page there.
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  I think my favorite thing about Mendoza is that if you look at
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  his mechanics at Cal and you look at his mechanics at Indiana
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  and it's goes to sequels. What you were saying, Avery, is
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  that he's very coachable. He's willing to take what he
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  has, what what he fundamentally has and approve on it.
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  He's he's not set in his ways, his stay even even down to like
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  his stance, taking the snap. They shortened up his stride
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  that they got him more compact, ready to take and and get ready
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  to throw the ball. And so I, I think, like you
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  said, you know, I think Kubi actually do a good job of taking
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  that and expanding on it. Now.
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  Again, like like you said, Avery going from Signeti to a first
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  time head coach, that's going to be a big adjustment, especially
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  on the Raiders who were abysmal, I mean just abysmal.
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  So I'm afraid we're going to get a Marcus Mariota type where all
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  the talent in the world goes to a bad team, constant change in
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  coordinators, constant change in coaching, and it just never
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  really works out. And that's the problem I
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  actually have written here. One of his downfalls is that
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  he's too good in college to be good in the NFL.
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  Because when you're too good in college as a quarterback, you go
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  to the NFL and if the team isn't already built around you to step
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  into, chances are you're not going to be overwhelmingly
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  successful. Now, there are a large number of
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  cases where that's just not true, but more recently that has
• 19:30
  been the case where you are really good in college and you
• 19:33
  just don't pay on the NFL because your situation you're
• 19:35
  stepping into is not right. I don't know who said it.
• 19:39
  Maybe it was Dan Orlovsky said. Maybe it wasn't there, But I
• 19:43
  think it was Dan Olaschke that said teams failed quarterbacks
• 19:46
  more than quarterbacks failed their teams because they just
• 19:49
  don't set them up in a good scenario.
• 19:51
  And the Raiders just traded away their best wide receiver last
• 19:56
  year to the Jaguars. And so now they've got it's now
• 19:59
  they don't have nobody, but they basically have no nobody as a
• 20:03
  receiver. You've got Brock Bowers, you've
• 20:04
  got Ashton Genti. They and they need help that
• 20:08
  that team's going to need more than just Mendoza Raiders.
• 20:11
  Fans will tell you that it doesn't matter because they have
• 20:13
  $100 million in cap space. And I just keep telling them
• 20:16
  there's no guarantee that anybody's going to sign with
• 20:18
  you. So yeah, no one.
• 20:19
  Wants to play in Las Vegas because they've been bad.
• 20:23
  You're not getting the veterans to come there because you don't
• 20:26
  have win right now potential, right?
• 20:29
  And I just have one more thing to say about Fernando Mendoza.
• 20:31
  Something that he needs to work on is his improvisation.
• 20:34
  I think that's where he could really struggle, which is kind
• 20:36
  of similar to when he has to get out of the pocket.
• 20:39
  But he's not like a Josh Allen or a Caleb Williams, Oregon,
• 20:42
  Patrick Mahomes, where he's escaping from all these guys.
• 20:45
  He struggles with improvisation, and that's due to him not being
• 20:48
  an elite athlete. He's a functional athlete, but
• 20:51
  he's not an elite athlete. Like Josh Allen is an elite
• 20:54
  athlete, Lamar Jackson is an elite athlete, Mendoza is not,
• 20:58
  although he is more mobile than people think he is, so he can
• 21:01
  make plays with his legs. I do think that his brushing
• 21:04
  plays that he makes are more from his quick mental processing
• 21:08
  though than from his athletic ability.
• 21:10
  So when he runs, I think he reminds me a little bit of Baker
• 21:14
  Mayfield. May not be the perfect comp, but
• 21:17
  he reminds me a little bit of Baker Mayfield because when he
• 21:20
  is running out of the pocket, he's making plays with his legs.
• 21:23
  He's not the fastest guy, he's not the best athlete, but when
• 21:25
  he needs to run, he will run and he will run tough.
• 21:29
  So although it's something that he doesn't need to work on, his
• 21:32
  rushing ability is something that I do actually really like
• 21:35
  about Fernando Mendoza as well. Do you guys have anything else
• 21:37
  on Fernando? Nope, Nope.
• 21:39
  All right, cool. Are we?
• 21:41
  Ranking them now where we have them or are we going to talk
• 21:44
  about him after? OK, Yeah, we're going.
• 21:46
  To do it at the very end, so. I guess if you said earlier.
• 21:50
  Yeah, come on. All right, so the number two
• 21:53
  player on the ESPN Top 50 big board is Ohio State linebacker
• 21:56
  Arville Reese. Will I know you really, really
• 21:59
  like this guy, so why don't you start us off here?
• 22:01
  Yeah, I. I do really like this guy.
• 22:03
  I actually just peel the curtain back.
• 22:07
  I actually did not put him as my number 1.
• 22:08
  I had him as my number 1 and I actually moved him off.
• 22:11
  He's got size 6 foot 4243. He's incredibly tall for a
• 22:16
  linebacker. He's got great size.
• 22:18
  He's everything you want in a linebacker.
• 22:20
  He's he's good all around, ability to play on the line of
• 22:24
  scrimmage, off the ball, middle line of the line of scrimmage,
• 22:27
  standing up. He has played everywhere.
• 22:29
  Ohio State played him in every position between him and Caleb
• 22:32
  Downs. Those two were pretty much your,
• 22:36
  your free player to play wherever you want to.
• 22:39
  They put all of them or both of them at every position that they
• 22:42
  have respectively. He's patient.
• 22:44
  He's going to keep his eyes in the backfield, adjust the ball
• 22:47
  as plays, developing an explosive and reactive and
• 22:51
  explosive. When he recognizes past get in
• 22:54
  there and it disrupted play. I do think he used to use his
• 22:56
  hands more as a pass rusher and take on half a man.
• 22:59
  He's continue to develop his edge skills because he plays
• 23:03
  around so much. And I think this is very similar
• 23:05
  to what Michael Parsons did at Penn State where Penn State had
• 23:09
  him playing standing up a lot and playing outside linebacker
• 23:13
  rather than edge rusher. And then when you got in the
• 23:15
  NFL, you're like, hey, actually Dallas and just get your hand in
• 23:19
  the dirt and just rush the patcher, rush the patcher.
• 23:21
  Wow, can't get that one out passer, rush the passer.
• 23:25
  And so I think we're going to see a similar thing here where
• 23:29
  they take his skill set and say, hey, why don't we hone this one.
• 23:33
  He just continue to develop that edge rushing skills that isn't
• 23:36
  unless he's going up against foil cable.
• 23:38
  Nobody has developed. That's free, free skates all
• 23:41
  good. So I like him a lot and 69 total
• 23:46
  tackles you see here on this on this on the graphic doesn't seem
• 23:49
  like a lot, but you what that doesn't show is how much he's
• 23:52
  constantly disrupting the play and he's just in there making it
• 23:56
  so either he or somebody else can make the play all the time.
• 24:00
  Yeah, I. I feel like this guy is kind of
• 24:02
  just like one of those, you know, mad dogs that you let off
• 24:06
  the leash. I, I feel like I think the areas
• 24:09
  of improvement kind of indicate I, I honestly, I've been
• 24:13
  watching these guys, both of these guys for a couple years
• 24:15
  now just because Oregon's always, you know, kind of around
• 24:19
  them. I've always felt like, dude, if
• 24:22
  you gave Arvel Reese Downs, you know, the brain or his mind to
• 24:28
  be able to dissect the play, I'm like, that would.
• 24:31
  Be insane. And I I think Caleb downs
• 24:34
  incredible, but we'll get to him later.
• 24:36
  But I feel I do feel like this is one of those guys where it's
• 24:39
  like, look, if you've got a great coach who knows how to
• 24:42
  utilize someone like him. I mean, when I'd watch him, I I
• 24:45
  wouldn't even realize that he's even a like like the size he is.
• 24:50
  He almost plays a little smaller, in least to me.
• 24:54
  I feel like he's very, extremely quick gets to where he wants to
• 24:57
  go. But I do think that the decision
• 25:00
  making is sometimes a little bit suspect.
• 25:03
  And I would hope, I mean, sometimes that doesn't translate
• 25:06
  in the NFL. Sometimes you just get a little
• 25:07
  lost in the sauce. But I would hope that wherever
• 25:10
  he goes, his coordinators know how to utilize him, just like
• 25:13
  what we were talking about with the quarterbacks.
• 25:16
  You know that that some it's most of the time the team fails
• 25:18
  them. I do hope that they get him the
• 25:21
  same way with Micah Parsons. Like why don't we just have you
• 25:23
  rush, just go in there and just get the tackle, get the sack.
• 25:27
  I hope that if they utilize him ideally to his strengths, I
• 25:32
  think he could be an absolute monster in in the league.
• 25:34
  I think so. Too.
• 25:35
  I think like you mentioned Avery, like with his rushing
• 25:38
  ability and will you mention it too, like he's not a natural
• 25:41
  pass rusher. He doesn't have a lot of
• 25:43
  experience just being a pass rusher.
• 25:45
  And that might have to to do with his lack of starting
• 25:47
  experience because he only started for one year at Ohio
• 25:49
  State. But what he is right now is he
• 25:52
  is an elite blitzer When he blitzes and he is coming
• 25:55
  downhill to the quarterback. If there's anybody in his way,
• 25:58
  specifically running backs, he will blow them up to get to the
• 26:02
  quarterback. He does not let people get away
• 26:05
  from him when he is in pursuit. He doesn't lose to speed, he
• 26:08
  doesn't lose to power, He doesn't lose the size.
• 26:11
  He just wins when he's in pursuit of the ball carrier.
• 26:14
  He's a fantastic tackler. He had a 6% missed tackle rate
• 26:18
  this past season, which if you do the math, he only missed 4
• 26:21
  tackles all season long and that's because of how long he
• 26:24
  is. His arms are so long that it
• 26:26
  just allows him to wrap up ball carriers and he does not let
• 26:29
  them get away from him. And probably my favorite thing
• 26:32
  about Arville Reese is how strong of an anchor he has.
• 26:35
  He's able to just stand up offensive lineman who try to
• 26:38
  block him in the run game. He plants his feet and instead
• 26:41
  of getting pushed back, he stands his ground, pushes up
• 26:44
  into the lineman, and then disengages to make the tackle.
• 26:47
  He uses his hands to overpower the offensive lineman and
• 26:51
  bullies them instead of letting them bully him.
• 26:53
  He uses his leverage very well. He gets up under their chest and
• 26:57
  pushes up to get them off balance.
• 26:59
  That was probably the number one thing that I was most impressed
• 27:02
  with with Arville Reese is just his ability to just stop an
• 27:06
  offensive lineman in their tracks, push them up and get off
• 27:09
  of them to make a tackle. What I think he needs to work on
• 27:13
  is his coverage ability, which is where he really the biggest
• 27:17
  thing he needs to improve. Really, if you just let him go
• 27:19
  and pursue the ball carry and just let him loose, he can do
• 27:22
  anything you want. But if he needs to cover like a
• 27:25
  shifty running back or a shifty tight end, he does have a little
• 27:28
  bit of trouble with change of direction in that type of a
• 27:30
  situation. But again, I do think that that
• 27:33
  comes from his lack of starting experience and he also this
• 27:37
  comes from that as well. He also bites on play fakes, on
• 27:40
  play action type of stuff and kind of takes him a little bit
• 27:44
  to diagnose the play sometimes and figure out where he needs to
• 27:47
  go. But when he figures out where he
• 27:49
  needs to go, his closing speed allows him to get there in a
• 27:52
  hurry. So overall, I think Arville
• 27:55
  Reese has a ton of potential. He's the most physically gifted
• 27:59
  linebacker in this class. He's got the size, he's got the
• 28:02
  strength, he's got the speed. He is going to be a problem for
• 28:05
  offensive coordinators in the NFL, and the crazy part is he's
• 28:08
  only 20 years old and he's only been a starter for one season.
• 28:12
  This guy's going to be insane in the NFL.
• 28:14
  Did you name? Your daughter after him.
• 28:16
  Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that he has the best name in the
• 28:19
  NFL draft. So yeah, that's right.
• 28:24
  I did actually name my daughter after Arville Reese.
• 28:26
  That's cool. A year before he started that
• 28:29
  will. Only be the That'll be the
• 28:31
  story. If the Bucks somehow get him.
• 28:33
  There's no chance of that even happening.
• 28:35
  But if the Bucks were to somehow get Arville Reese, that's the
• 28:38
  story moving forward forever. You will.
• 28:40
  Retrofit. The story is like, look, this is
• 28:42
  actually the alternative history here.
• 28:44
  This is really what it is. Yeah.
• 28:46
  And if the Bucks do somehow get him, I will instantly buy his
• 28:49
  jersey, instantly buy his jersey.
• 28:51
  But again, there's no chance of that happening.
• 28:53
  So go ahead. And what are you going?
• 28:56
  To say nothing important. OK, OK, all right, let's move on
• 29:00
  to the number three player on the ESPN Top 50 big board, which
• 29:03
  is Notre Dame running back Jeremiah Love.
• 29:07
  So I'll start on this one. The first thing I wrote down on
• 29:10
  my notes for Jeremiah Love is home run hitter.
• 29:13
  He is a big play threat every single time he touches the ball.
• 29:16
  This last season he averaged 6.9 yards of carry.
• 29:19
  And the reason why he is a home run hitter is because he was
• 29:23
  actually a state champion sprinter in high school.
• 29:25
  He has elite acceleration to get away from defenders and he's
• 29:29
  very patient behind his offensive line.
• 29:31
  Once he finds the hole, he's able to get up to full speed in
• 29:34
  a hurry. But I think what really makes
• 29:36
  Jeremiah Love special is his ability to re accelerate after
• 29:41
  slowing down to make defenders miss.
• 29:43
  A lot of running backs have good initial acceleration, but when
• 29:46
  they have to slow down to try and make somebody miss and then
• 29:49
  speed up again, it's just not the same.
• 29:52
  It's the exact same as his initial acceleration.
• 29:54
  For Jeremiah Love, he can start and stop on a dime.
• 29:59
  He reminds me of Jameer Gibson that way.
• 30:01
  His reacceleration is elite and it allows him to get away from
• 30:05
  defenders. Additionally, he's very shifty
• 30:07
  just in general. He's able to make people miss
• 30:09
  with hurdles, jukes or just straight speed.
• 30:13
  However, with the jukes and the hurdles and stuff, I think
• 30:16
  that's kind of one of his areas of improvement because I think
• 30:19
  he tries too hard to make cool plays.
• 30:22
  He puts himself at risk to get hit and take big hits.
• 30:25
  I think he does that too much. Like when I watched his tape, I
• 30:28
  saw several hurdles where he hurdles 1 defender, but then as
• 30:32
  he's going down, he's getting tackled by three other defenders
• 30:34
  coming to the ground. I even saw plays where he's
• 30:37
  trying to hurdle people at the line of scrimmage when they're
• 30:39
  not even close to the goal line. So like, I think he just tries
• 30:42
  to be a little bit too flashy, but overall his ability to dodge
• 30:47
  defenders and it just accelerate through the hole is elite in my
• 30:51
  opinion, I think. This, I want to start by saying
• 30:54
  I'm never that high on running backs.
• 30:57
  I feel like for the most part, they have the shortest lifespan
• 31:00
  of any player in the NF, any position in the NFL.
• 31:03
  And I feel like most of the time they are kind of subject to the
• 31:06
  offensive scheme and the offensive line that they have.
• 31:10
  I look at Gentie and I'm like, look, everyone's still just kind
• 31:13
  of waiting to see what this kids all about.
• 31:15
  He's had a whole year, but they're still just kind of like,
• 31:17
  oh, just wait till he gets, you know, a good line.
• 31:19
  And I've seen too many running backs kind of come out of
• 31:23
  nowhere and have a great season that maybe yesterday weren't
• 31:27
  they weren't drafted very high. They hadn't gotten a shot
• 31:30
  somewhere else. And I think most of the time it
• 31:32
  comes down to situational football, whether that's just
• 31:35
  hey, he he was peaking at the right time.
• 31:38
  The offensive line was it, you know, just just humming at that
• 31:41
  point. I say that just say that I don't
• 31:45
  ever feel like most running backs should be taken that high
• 31:48
  unless they are genuinely A generational talent.
• 31:50
  And I do not feel that Jeremiah Love is a generational talent.
• 31:54
  I think he had a great season. I also would I completely agree
• 31:58
  with what Joel said. I I think that he is a little
• 32:00
  too lean. I think he gets a little too
• 32:02
  cavalier with his play style. I think that his physical
• 32:05
  attributes, his his physical talents has carried him very far
• 32:10
  thus far in life. I do not think that he will be
• 32:13
  able to rely on those solely in the NFLI think he might get
• 32:18
  broken too quick. I think he might get drafted to
• 32:21
  a team that needs him, which really means that they need an
• 32:25
  offensive line. If you had an offensive line,
• 32:28
  any running back would do. And that's usually my opinion.
• 32:30
  If, if, if you're a healthy young running back in the league
• 32:34
  and you did well in college and you are an NFL player, I feel
• 32:37
  like if you've got a good line like you, you can do it.
• 32:40
  And I feel the same way with quarterbacks in general, Like
• 32:43
  the the what Joel said about, oh, you know, Fernando Mendoza,
• 32:47
  if he's got, you know, if he's not pressured, he can make the
• 32:50
  throw. I'm like, hopefully every
• 32:52
  quarterback can do that, you know, and, and it really just
• 32:54
  comes down to like fields. Can, that's for sure.
• 32:57
  Yeah, but he just plays for The Jets and that's just the whole
• 33:00
  separate thing. But but, but, but I do feel
• 33:03
  like, you know, for the most part, it's not like, you know,
• 33:05
  hey, what you know, it's usually like, what are you willing to do
• 33:09
  when no one's watching? What like, what do you do when
• 33:12
  put to the test? Anyone can say like, oh, I'm
• 33:14
  going to, you know, I'm going to be a good person.
• 33:16
  I'm going to do this like, but what about when you're tempted?
• 33:18
  Like that's really, you know, that's what that, that's, you
• 33:20
  know, what, what you're made of. And so I see this is like, you
• 33:23
  know, hey, you know, if you're I'm kind of trailing off here,
• 33:26
  but you know, if a quarterback, you know, has to break out of
• 33:29
  the pocket, that's the kind of stuff like, let's see what you
• 33:32
  do. Let's see what natural intuition
• 33:34
  you have here. And I feel like Mendoza and
• 33:37
  Baker Mayfield going to have that where it's like every time
• 33:39
  they go on a little scrambles, like they're usually making
• 33:42
  something out of absolutely nothing, sometimes less than
• 33:44
  nothing. That being said, I do think
• 33:46
  Jeremiah Love has an insane talent.
• 33:49
  I think that he is very good, but I don't think that he is
• 33:53
  good enough to be top six in the draft.
• 33:57
  I think that there are better players at different positions
• 34:02
  than basically drafting a running back that isn't a
• 34:05
  generational talent this high up.
• 34:08
  He's not Adrian Peterson, right? He's not Adrian Peterson.
• 34:11
  He's not that type of running back.
• 34:13
  No, sorry, Will go ahead. No, I.
• 34:14
  Like this because I have a completely different take.
• 34:17
  I have AI, have a completely different take.
• 34:19
  I love drama. I love.
• 34:20
  I think he is maybe not the best, maybe that's not the best
• 34:25
  athlete in this draft. I think best athlete probably
• 34:28
  goes to Caleb down to Arvo Reese.
• 34:30
  But Jeremiah Love, like you mentioned, Jewel, his ability to
• 34:35
  start and then start and stop and start running.
• 34:39
  That's what makes him such a good receiver as well.
• 34:41
  He's able to swing out in the flat, stop moving, get the ball,
• 34:46
  make one cut and then he's downfield.
• 34:48
  And if you get him in the open field, he's gone.
• 34:51
  It is over. And I think that makes him
• 34:53
  incredibly useful to a lot of these teams, especially the bad
• 34:57
  teams that are in drafted. I truly think Jeremiah would go
• 35:00
  top ten, and I think that's what these bad teams need is a way to
• 35:03
  slow down defensive lineman because their offensive line is
• 35:07
  terrible. And so just real quick here, not
• 35:09
  that we're diving into stats or anything, but I'm going to do it
• 35:11
  anyway. His sophomore year, so 2024
• 35:15
  total rushing yards were 1125 at Notre Dame.
• 35:18
  That's 70 yards per game. The very next year, last year,
• 35:23
  his junior year, he ran for 1300 yards, 13172 yards, which was
• 35:28
  114 yards per game. His yards per game skyrocketed.
• 35:34
  And then you can say out of you say we're using them more, they
• 35:37
  were feeding the ball more, they played four or less games.
• 35:40
  All of that is contributing factors, but his, his ability
• 35:44
  and his just natural gift. Like you said, Avery carried him
• 35:49
  incredibly far. And when it comes to running
• 35:51
  backs, that's what you have to have as as you mentioned Jewel
• 35:54
  in high school, he was a state championship or state champion
• 35:58
  sprinter and that that is incredibly important.
• 36:01
  Also, as you mentioned, you kind of just parry everything.
• 36:03
  You said he runs upright, like upright, upright and leaving
• 36:07
  himself exposed. And that's why he gets hit so
• 36:09
  much. He also needs to work on his
• 36:10
  pass blocking. He can catch the ball well, but
• 36:12
  if he wants to be at every down back, he didn't have to work on
• 36:14
  his pass blocking as well. Something just to note real
• 36:16
  quick and then we'll move on. He's never had more than 200
• 36:19
  carries in a season, so although he does expose himself to the
• 36:22
  big hits they didn't like give him like an Ashton Genti type of
• 36:26
  workload. So that's a plus for him going
• 36:29
  into the NFL, especially if he goes to a team where it's a 2
• 36:31
  running back system such as the Lions where you've got Jameer
• 36:35
  Gibbs who's the speed guy and David Montgomery who's more of
• 36:37
  just a bruiser type of guy. So I think that would be the
• 36:40
  perfect situation for Jeremiah Love.
• 36:42
  Never more than 200 carries, but he did have more than 200
• 36:45
  touches. If he if he yes, the reception
• 36:48
  is yes, so. That's true, yes, but he's not
• 36:51
  Christian McCaffrey touching the ball 413 times.
• 36:54
  That's so. Much ball touching.
• 36:57
  Irresponsible amount. I know I said it before, but
• 37:00
  I'll say it again, an irresponsible amount. 3.
• 37:03
  Guys, 413 balls. In this case, one guy,
• 37:10
  Christian. Jeez.
• 37:12
  All right, so moving on to #4 this is Texas Tech edge David
• 37:16
  Bailey Avery, I know you're a huge fan of that Texas Tech
• 37:19
  team. Why don't you start us off on
• 37:21
  this one, hey? Avery, did you know who this guy
• 37:24
  was before working him up? I watched him.
• 37:27
  I watched him get abused. Am I to be?
• 37:29
  Honest, I had no idea. I could not have pointed this to
• 37:33
  this guy on the field. Could not have told you who this
• 37:36
  guy was. Never once turned his name the
• 37:37
  entire season. Now he.
• 37:40
  Was the guy. I understand that.
• 37:42
  I don't know, Ball, I get that. You watch.
• 37:44
  The game though, right? Who this?
• 37:45
  Guy was which guy, Which game? Oregon takes a second.
• 37:49
  Nope. OK, OK.
• 37:50
  Oh, OK, well then what I was going to say doesn't make any
• 37:52
  sense. So.
• 37:54
  Oh, I, well, for me, I, I, I do feel like this guy's really good
• 37:58
  from what I've seen, because I watched the Oregon game and then
• 38:01
  I watched some other games. What will specifically the
• 38:03
  defense where he's playing, It does feel like he has just raw
• 38:07
  talent. Just raw talent from what I've
• 38:10
  seen. The thing that gets me seems to
• 38:14
  be maybe self-control. He had some he had a couple dumb
• 38:18
  penalties playing Oregon that were just like, OK, you need to
• 38:22
  you need to get your shit in order.
• 38:23
  Sorry, dad. And I feel like it's, it's not
• 38:26
  only it, it's one of those, it's the controlling, the emotions
• 38:31
  that like Kate, this will hurt your team.
• 38:33
  It's not just like, oh, I'm getting upset.
• 38:34
  I'm throwing kind of a fit. It's stupid mistakes that he
• 38:38
  that he that he will make. I don't know if it's just the
• 38:40
  stuff I saw or whatever, but I, I do know that against Oregon,
• 38:45
  he was looking scary. He was looking very scary.
• 38:48
  And he's a big boy and he was way more athletic than I thought
• 38:52
  he would be. I'm going to keep this pretty
• 38:54
  brief. That being said, I, I do feel
• 38:56
  like he might be one of those guys kind of like Arvel, where
• 39:00
  it's like, hey, if you've got the right situation, the right
• 39:04
  mentors, the right veterans, the right coaches to show him what's
• 39:07
  what and to utilize him correctly, I think he's going to
• 39:10
  be great. I always think back to that Will
• 39:13
  Campbell interview he had in college where he's just saying,
• 39:16
  and I know this got used against him after the Super Bowl where
• 39:19
  he's saying if you, if you give up a sack every game, you're
• 39:22
  going to be working at Amazon. You know, and it's, it's one of
• 39:25
  those things where with him, if you're giving up a penalty or
• 39:30
  two every game, that's essentially like giving up a
• 39:33
  sack. It's like if, if you are
• 39:35
  committing these penalties, if you are making stupid decisions.
• 39:38
  And I'm not saying he's just out there being Dennis Rodman or
• 39:40
  anything, but it is one of those things that if you're not
• 39:43
  committing any penalties like that is worth its winning gold.
• 39:47
  Like if, if, if you go through your whole like the whole game
• 39:50
  and you guys haven't committed any penalties, that's insane.
• 39:53
  Going back to Carolina, they only committed 1 foul in the in
• 39:56
  the second-half. And you could say they oh, they
• 39:58
  should have, they should have given them more fouls.
• 40:00
  I know they didn't commit any, but they should have just given
• 40:02
  them to even it out. But that is absolutely how they
• 40:05
  ended up winning the game. So I feel like if he's utilized
• 40:09
  right, if he's guided right, I I feel like he would be incredible
• 40:12
  in the league. We talked.
• 40:13
  About this last year, right? A guy who has incredible
• 40:17
  athleticism, unrefined technique didn't I mean, the difference is
• 40:23
  the major differences is David Bailey put up the stats.
• 40:28
  Shamar Stewart did not put up the stats, but we were saying
• 40:32
  the same thing. This guy's incredibly athletic.
• 40:35
  He's unrefined. He's he needs this that and the
• 40:38
  other got to have to have help, but it did.
• 40:41
  The vast difference between the two is I think the high motor, I
• 40:45
  think explosiveness and high motor.
• 40:46
  David Bailey has it. He doesn't know the play right.
• 40:49
  This is the this is the part about defense that they hate the
• 40:52
  offense because the offense cheats, because they know where
• 40:54
  the plays going. They know the snap count, they
• 40:56
  know all that stuff. They know where they're supposed
• 40:58
  to be. The defense just has to read and
• 41:00
  react. David Bailey is beating tackles
• 41:03
  to their spot. He is beating them.
• 41:06
  You have a three-step. Quarterbacks are a three-step
• 41:09
  drop. I had to to said slide stare or
• 41:12
  not slide step back to kick step X amount of times.
• 41:15
  Did he make sure the pressure set to open the pocket up?
• 41:17
  David Bailey's beating him there.
• 41:18
  He doesn't even care where you're going.
• 41:20
  He's just going to beat you there.
• 41:21
  He's faster than you. He gets off the ball faster than
• 41:23
  you. He's taking his first step while
• 41:25
  you're still trying to snap out of your out of your stance.
• 41:28
  I think he's very good. Unfortunately I don't rank him
• 41:32
  very high because of his run game lack of ability.
• 41:39
  Really. He is not good in the run game I
• 41:41
  don't think. It's as bad as people think it
• 41:43
  is though. I don't think it's as good as
• 41:45
  you think it is. I don't think it no, see, see, I
• 41:48
  don't think it's elite. I don't think it's elite by any
• 41:50
  means. I think when he was at Stanford,
• 41:52
  where he played for three years before going to Texas Tech, I
• 41:56
  think it was not great there, but I think it improved at Texas
• 42:00
  Tech. I think he got better.
• 42:02
  I don't think he is a lead by any means.
• 42:05
  I think he can hold his own. But one of his areas of
• 42:08
  improvement is he does not have the anchor like Arville Reese
• 42:12
  has. So he does get driven back in
• 42:14
  the run game. I don't think it's as bad as
• 42:17
  people think it is, but I understand what you're talking
• 42:20
  about. I just don't think it's as bad
• 42:22
  as people think it is so. One thing that that we have on
• 42:25
  our strengths here is variety of pass rush moves.
• 42:28
  I actually watching film, I actually a little bit disagree
• 42:31
  with this. Now he loves the he loves the
• 42:35
  Dwight Freeny Spen move, loves it, loves it so much.
• 42:39
  He loves to use it inside. He'll go up against a guard and
• 42:42
  then use it on the inside of line square like inside guys,
• 42:46
  and it doesn't work there. I truly feel he's only got two,
• 42:50
  well, three real moves. If you call being faster than
• 42:53
  you a move, then he's got three. He's got, he's got the spin
• 42:58
  move, he's got the I'm faster than you move and he's got the
• 43:02
  pat, the the bull rush, we'll call it.
• 43:04
  Well, that's what it's called. But I just don't feel like he's,
• 43:07
  when it comes to let's say, a draw play.
• 43:10
  I just don't feel like the adjustments going to be there
• 43:12
  enough in college when you're doing that spin move on anybody,
• 43:18
  it's going to work most of the time.
• 43:19
  He's very fast on it. He gets his feet right all the
• 43:22
  time in the NFL. They're just going to push you
• 43:26
  in the back. You turn your back to them,
• 43:28
  they're just going to push you over.
• 43:30
  They're going to get you off balance and push you.
• 43:31
  The the talent and ability is just different with NFL
• 43:36
  offensive lineman and I don't think it's going to translate
• 43:38
  well, at least at the start. He will have to obviously
• 43:41
  training camps, OTAs, all of that.
• 43:44
  There is a significant room for improvement.
• 43:46
  I just don't think it translates well initially, and that's where
• 43:50
  technique and all that stuff's going to have to be taught.
• 43:53
  But whereas his raw talent and ability is something he already
• 43:57
  has. Yes.
• 43:58
  Yeah, I you, basically. Said everything I had on his
• 44:01
  strengths and everything but I'll just say this about David
• 44:04
  Bailey. David Bailey is a pass rush
• 44:06
  demon. He just finds ways to get to the
• 44:09
  quarterback. Any concerns that anybody has
• 44:11
  about his run defense should be heavily outweighed by his
• 44:14
  ability to get to the quarterback.
• 44:16
  In my opinion, it's much easier to build a great defense when
• 44:19
  you have the foundation of a pass rush versus the foundation
• 44:22
  of a run defense. It's easier to find an elite run
• 44:25
  defender than it is to find an elite pass rusher.
• 44:28
  And unfortunately, I'll use the Bucks as the perfect example
• 44:31
  here. They have a very solid
• 44:32
  foundation of a run defense, but what they lack is an elite pass
• 44:36
  rusher, which is why their defense was so bad down the
• 44:39
  stretch. And because they're in that
• 44:41
  situation now where they don't have an elite pass rusher, they
• 44:44
  either have to pay a crop load of money for a star pass rusher
• 44:47
  who's available, or they have to trade up in the draft to get an
• 44:50
  elite pass rusher because they're picking at 15.
• 44:53
  They're just not going to get one of the top pass rushers in
• 44:55
  the draft picking at 15. It's just not going to happen.
• 44:58
  So anybody who drafts David Bailey, forget about his run
• 45:02
  defense. Build the run defense around him
• 45:06
  because what he can do as a pass rusher will help your team win.
• 45:10
  Or just do a Texas balls. Down.
• 45:13
  Yes, just do a Texas texted and take him off the field on 1st
• 45:17
  down and 2nd and short. Just take him off.
• 45:20
  That's what they're doing. That's like we'll switch them
• 45:22
  out. We don't need you to do this.
• 45:24
  You have the skill set. This is like, is it?
• 45:28
  Well, I don't want to see the wrong name Seattle drafts from
• 45:30
  in the first round. Is it Bruce Irvin?
• 45:33
  They drafted him just to be a pass rusher, is that right?
• 45:36
  I know Bruce Irving played for them.
• 45:37
  I don't what year? What year.
• 45:40
  Well, this was a. While ago everyone questioned
• 45:42
  it, this was. Before we started the podcast.
• 45:44
  Will. This is way before we started
• 45:47
  the podcast. Yeah, Drafted.
• 45:48
  He's on the Dolphins now. I don't care about that.
• 45:52
  Yeah. First round pick 15 for Seattle.
• 45:54
  He's a pass rest specialist. That drafts him to pick 15 for a
• 45:57
  pass rest specialist and me and a lot of people who actually
• 46:01
  know what they're talking about. So not me.
• 46:03
  We're like, why are you doing this?
• 46:05
  What is happening? The problem is Seattle was ahead
• 46:08
  of the curve. They were doing that.
• 46:11
  That was Legion of Boom Arrow when they drafted him.
• 46:14
  They were, hey, we have all the help back here.
• 46:17
  Just get to that quarterback and make him make mistakes and and
• 46:20
  now the people, what people are doing, they're drafting people
• 46:23
  just to rush the passer. Passer.
• 46:25
  Wow, I'm having a rough time with that double S today.
• 46:27
  And it's like the mantra, hey, this guy is not that good at run
• 46:31
  defense. Doesn't matter.
• 46:32
  Draft him anyway, all right? Well, if you guys don't have
• 46:35
  anything else out there, I think we pretty much covered
• 46:37
  everything with David Bailey. So we'll move on to the fifth
• 46:40
  ranked player on the ESPN Top 50, which is Ohio State safety
• 46:44
  Caleb Downs. Now, we'll talk about this
• 46:47
  later, but I think Caleb Downs is the best player in the 2026
• 46:51
  NFL Draft, in my opinion, is the best player I.
• 46:54
  Also have him ranked at #1 OK. Well, that solves.
• 46:58
  Well, that solves unanimous #1 ranking there, so wow 6.
• 47:01
  Balls ranked him at #1. Yeah, Caleb Downs is a defensive
• 47:06
  chess piece who you can do pretty much anything with.
• 47:09
  You can put him at safety, you can put him at outside corner,
• 47:11
  you can put him at slot corner. You can use him as a linebacker.
• 47:14
  He can cover wide receivers. He can cover tight ends, he can
• 47:17
  cover running backs. He can tackle, he can blitz.
• 47:19
  He can do anything a defensive coordinator will ask him to do.
• 47:23
  He is the defensive leader of the secondary and he commands
• 47:26
  that secondary both pre and post snap.
• 47:29
  He's very good at diagnosing plays and so pre snap you'll see
• 47:33
  him aligning the secondary and getting everyone in position and
• 47:36
  then post snap you'll see him using his instincts to just make
• 47:40
  plays and he passes off the receivers and tight ends very
• 47:43
  well to his other teammates on the defense.
• 47:46
  I also think what I really like about him is how Ohio State used
• 47:50
  him around the line of scrimmage to just disrupt plays.
• 47:53
  You'll see him show looks like he's going to blitz and then
• 47:56
  when the ball is snapped he's doing something completely
• 47:58
  different from what the quarterback thought he was going
• 48:00
  to do and it just confuses the quarterback and that's what
• 48:03
  creates disruption at the line of scrimmage is what Caleb Downs
• 48:07
  does. So a defensive coordinator can
• 48:09
  pretty much do anything they want with this player.
• 48:12
  My only. Drawback to Caleb Downs is he,
• 48:17
  and it's it's hard to say this is a drawback, but he likes to
• 48:20
  make the big play and sometimes making the big plays at the
• 48:23
  detriment of looking like an idiot.
• 48:26
  You try to make the big tackles, you guys spends off, you try to
• 48:29
  go for the interception and like make a flash.
• 48:32
  Maybe not a flash interception, but you try to make a two, try
• 48:35
  too hard to make a play on the ball rather than just making a
• 48:37
  tackle. And then they catch it and score
• 48:39
  a touchdown and it's very boom and bust.
• 48:42
  The good news is that he booms a lot more than he busts.
• 48:45
  Very good fits into every scheme in the NFL.
• 48:48
  I'd like to be noted, the Rams just hired the Ohio State
• 48:53
  secondary coach as their secondary coach.
• 48:56
  So that sounds fun for me, hopefully.
• 48:59
  They'll be better than they were this year.
• 49:01
  Well. Hopefully they draft Caleb Downs
• 49:03
  that would be. Untrained a lot to.
• 49:05
  Get him that would be. Unfair.
• 49:06
  They have the capital to do it. Yes, we do, don't we?
• 49:11
  Well, it's so that doesn't happen.
• 49:12
  I don't even. Think they have to trade up that
• 49:14
  far. Truly.
• 49:14
  I don't think he's. Going to get drafted as high as
• 49:16
  he should be just based off of positional value because he's at
• 49:19
  safety, but he should get drafted higher than he will get
• 49:22
  drafted. What is what is really
• 49:25
  interesting is I think safety specifically is the biggest gap
• 49:31
  in the draft this year. I think that you've got Caleb
• 49:35
  Downs at one and there's a bigger gap between 1:00 and 2:00
• 49:38
  at safety than probably any other position.
• 49:40
  Now that may be a bit much to say, but the with how good Caleb
• 49:46
  Downs is versus how good the second guy is, I don't have it
• 49:48
  pulled up right in front of me. It is a significant difference.
• 49:51
  I. For a while now, this is going
• 49:54
  to sound like a very odd comparison, but he is always
• 49:58
  remind me in a way, in a way of Luke Kuechly.
• 50:02
  I know they are completely different players that play
• 50:05
  completely different positions, but Luke Kuechly was one of
• 50:08
  those guys. And, and, and, and this is, this
• 50:09
  is the comparison I'll make their physicality and they're
• 50:13
  more just, they're not just the intuition, but their
• 50:18
  decisiveness to be able to go in and make the play because
• 50:22
  usually that is what it takes. I mean, in, in a game of inches,
• 50:26
  I mean, if, if you can make the play quick, I mean, within a
• 50:30
  fraction of a second quicker than some other guy, like that's
• 50:33
  usually the difference between a tackle and interception or a
• 50:36
  sack. And this guy, I mean, whether
• 50:38
  it, whether he's making those big plays and sometimes, you
• 50:41
  know, coming up short and therefore kind of, you know,
• 50:43
  kind of penalizing the team because of it.
• 50:46
  I do feel like, especially as a defensive player, having the
• 50:50
  confidence and the know how. I mean, I, I do feel like that's
• 50:55
  usually what makes or breaks a player or separates great
• 50:58
  players from average players. I mean, I think about anything.
• 51:01
  I mean, I'm sure anyone watching this, I mean, if if you've ever,
• 51:05
  you know, started something new or you wanted to get into
• 51:08
  something and you're, you know, you're just kind of unsure if
• 51:10
  you don't really know how you're supposed to do it or whatever.
• 51:12
  But then once you get into it, you know, everything just starts
• 51:15
  clicking in your mind. You're a lot more confident.
• 51:18
  You don't have to think things through necessarily.
• 51:21
  It's just it's more just second nature and this guy just seems
• 51:24
  to have that second nature down to his first nature.
• 51:27
  It's just going after it. And so I really like that.
• 51:30
  I think that's, again, they play different positions, very
• 51:33
  different players, but that's what I see when I've seen him
• 51:36
  play best player. In the draft, best player in the
• 51:39
  draft. All right, let's move on to the
• 51:41
  number six player, which is Ruben Bayne from Miami.
• 51:46
  Now, Ruben Bain is one of the most controversial prospects in
• 51:49
  the NFL draft, in my opinion. A lot of people think he's
• 51:51
  great. A lot of people think he's a
• 51:53
  bust, and maybe bust is a little bit harsh, but I don't think
• 51:56
  he's ever going to be a top pass rusher in the NFL.
• 51:58
  In my opinion, the biggest knock on Ruben Bayne is he's got short
• 52:02
  arms. We don't know his actual
• 52:03
  measurements yet, but many believe his arms are going to be
• 52:06
  measured below 31 inches. And just to tell you guys why
• 52:09
  that's important, here's a list of edge defenders with sub 31
• 52:13
  inch arms since 1999 to have a double digit sack season or make
• 52:17
  a Pro Bowl. None.
• 52:20
  That's it. None.
• 52:22
  Not one single person, not one. It just doesn't happen.
• 52:26
  You can overcome that stuff in college against lesser talent,
• 52:29
  but in the NFL you are going to have problems as a pass rusher
• 52:33
  if you have that short of arms. And Ruben Bang does miss a lot
• 52:36
  of tackles and he doesn't finish plays because his length just
• 52:40
  doesn't allow him to do so. To put this in perspective last.
• 52:43
  Year Will Campbell got a lot of knocks for his arm length,
• 52:47
  right? Like that was a big thing last
• 52:48
  year with Will Campbell. His arms measured at 32 and 5/8.
• 52:52
  We're talking about Will Campbell measuring it under 31.
• 52:55
  That's over an inch and a half of of length that even Will
• 52:59
  Campbell has on him, who had notably short arms.
• 53:02
  It's very short. I am.
• 53:04
  Not he got. Short arms, boy.
• 53:07
  Maybe this is less of an unpopular opinion than I saw.
• 53:09
  I think Ruben Bain is fine. He's a good player.
• 53:12
  He's he's very athletic. He's he's going to be average in
• 53:18
  the NFL at best. I just don't see, I just don't
• 53:22
  see on tape a guy that's going to be an elite pass rusher.
• 53:25
  I don't, I don't see it. I.
• 53:27
  Think, and this is this is a tinfoil hat opinion.
• 53:32
  I think he should put on between 25 and 40 lbs and switch a
• 53:36
  defensive tackle. Yes, I think he should get in
• 53:40
  the middle and just eat blocks. Stop trying to because all
• 53:46
  right, here we go. This is seeing some hate on the
• 53:49
  Internet. When I watch this guy play, I
• 53:53
  don't see high motor. I don't see high efforts.
• 53:57
  His forty time I wrote it down is 472.
• 54:01
  So when people get outside of him, he's the edge guy.
• 54:04
  By the way, when you get outside of him, the only way he's
• 54:07
  catching up to you is if you stop to Juke or cut or something
• 54:10
  like that. He's not catching up to make to
• 54:12
  make the play. And I regularly see him not
• 54:16
  trying. Now there are plays where he
• 54:18
  does try. And if you watch highlight
• 54:19
  reels, of course he's, well, he's in every highlight reel,
• 54:22
  right? Because it's a highlight reel
• 54:23
  for him. Of course he's there.
• 54:24
  Of course he's making the play. But even in some highlight reels
• 54:27
  I'm watching, I say this is not really, he didn't really do
• 54:31
  anything here. He just kind of walked out there
• 54:33
  and the guy was still standing there.
• 54:34
  So we made the tackle. I, I don't like what he has
• 54:38
  going on. I think he has tendencies to
• 54:40
  play, take plays off when it's going away from him or if it's
• 54:44
  already passed him. I I just, I, I think he he needs
• 54:49
  to bulk up, gain weight and switch to the middle and then I
• 54:54
  think he'd be a pretty good D tackle eating things up.
• 54:56
  He likes to jump gaps a lot already, so he's already good at
• 54:59
  that. He's going to have an issue
• 55:00
  moving guys off the block, but centers and guards have shorter
• 55:04
  arms and tackles do normally. So he's going to have a better
• 55:07
  time and they're doing that. So that's my opinion.
• 55:12
  I like Will. Steak I I also kind of agree
• 55:14
  that like, I most of his highlights to me just resemble
• 55:19
  just kind of being at the right place, the right time, maybe
• 55:22
  taking on some weaker, you know, opponents.
• 55:25
  It's one of those things where I do agree with Will.
• 55:28
  In fact, I hadn't even thought of it.
• 55:29
  It's like, dude, yeah, put on 40 lbs.
• 55:31
  Just eat up the middle like that.
• 55:34
  Maybe maybe that is, you know, what it what he should be doing,
• 55:37
  but he does kind of look a little bit like a wild card,
• 55:41
  Like you really don't know what you're going to get.
• 55:43
  Like you are kind of rolling the dice on this guy, especially
• 55:46
  this high up in the draft. But yeah, I like, I like wheels
• 55:48
  take a lot. Sorry, Jewel, this feels like a
• 55:51
  Browns draft pick. They're going to pick him at #6
• 55:54
  just like a like a yeah, Browns. We got him.
• 55:58
  I've seen a couple mock drafts of him go into the Titans.
• 56:01
  I don't think Robert Solid takes him.
• 56:04
  I don't think Solid looks at this guy and goes, yeah, I want
• 56:07
  him. But I can see, I can see this is
• 56:09
  this is like the quintessential first pick for the drafts for
• 56:14
  the Browns. Excuse me, but the drafts.
• 56:16
  The drafts, no, here's what I'll say.
• 56:21
  I'll say one last kind of negative thing about Ruben Bayne
• 56:23
  and then I'll say some positives because there are some positives
• 56:26
  with Ruben Bayne as well. To me, there is a difference
• 56:29
  between a sack artist and a disruptor.
• 56:31
  Getting to the quarterback is a skill and there's a big
• 56:34
  difference between having the skill to get to the quarterback
• 56:37
  and being able to disrupt the quarterback.
• 56:39
  To me at the NFL level, Ruben Bayne will be a disruptor, but
• 56:43
  he will not be a sack artist. There are many plays where you
• 56:46
  see him get in there initially because he does have a good
• 56:49
  first step, but then after that, if the quarterback moves away
• 56:52
  from him, like Will mentioned, he just stops.
• 56:55
  He's not in the play once the play moves away from him.
• 56:58
  So I'm going to get a lot of hate for this and Will already
• 57:00
  mentioned this other player, but I think there's a comparison
• 57:03
  more so between these two players than the comparison Will
• 57:07
  made. There is a comparison between
• 57:09
  Ruben Bayne and Shamar Stewart. Now, Ruben Bayne does have
• 57:12
  better stats than Shamar Stewart, but Ruben Bayne and
• 57:15
  Shamar Stewart are similar because they can both disrupt
• 57:17
  plays. They can move quarterbacks off
• 57:19
  their spot, they can force them out of the pocket, but there's
• 57:22
  just too many times when you see them misplace.
• 57:25
  They can disrupt plays, but they don't make the play.
• 57:27
  They don't. They don't finish the play.
• 57:29
  So to me those two are very similar in that way is that they
• 57:33
  are disruptors, but they are not pass rushers.
• 57:36
  They don't have that ability to get to the quarterback as they
• 57:40
  should when they're being drafted as high as they are.
• 57:43
  Just to get to some positive things here, though, one of the
• 57:46
  best things about Ruben Bayne is that he already has NFL level
• 57:51
  coaching. His coach, his defensive line
• 57:53
  coach, is Hall of Fame pass rusher Jason Taylor.
• 57:58
  And because of that, he has been taught how to use his hands
• 58:01
  very, very well. Both he and Hakim Mesador, who
• 58:05
  we'll get to in a couple weeks because I think he's ranked like
• 58:07
  18th, 17th or 18th on the big board for ESPN.
• 58:11
  These guys know how to use their hands very, very well.
• 58:14
  They have violent hands to get the offensive lineman off of
• 58:18
  them in order to help them make plays.
• 58:21
  So I think that is a positive. And Ruben Bain is very powerful,
• 58:24
  which he uses in the run game, which goes back to what Will
• 58:27
  mentioned about putting him inside and putting on weight.
• 58:29
  He is a very good run defender. He doesn't get moved in the
• 58:33
  like, He doesn't get moved back in the run game.
• 58:35
  So I think that is a really good positive for him.
• 58:37
  I just don't like his pass rush ability.
• 58:40
  Like if you're drafting a guy that high, you don't want him
• 58:43
  just to be a run defender. You want him to have more pass
• 58:46
  rush ability. And I don't see Ruben Bayne
• 58:49
  having that ability at the NFL level.
• 58:52
  Do you guys have anything else to add before we rank these guys
• 58:55
  one through 6? I was.
• 58:57
  Shocked that he was so low on ESPN's top 50.
• 59:01
  I I full game. Yeah, Ruben Bay, I expect him to
• 59:05
  be higher on that list. Yeah, a lot.
• 59:06
  Of people have him as the number one pass rusher.
• 59:09
  I don't I haven't seen him as the number one player, but I
• 59:12
  have definitely seen him a lot higher than I mean it's not
• 59:14
  really a lot higher because there's only 5 people ahead of
• 59:17
  him, but I've seen him higher than 6 for sure.
• 59:20
  So OK, so here's where it gets interesting.
• 59:23
  Now we're going to rank these players one through 6.
• 59:25
  This is a collective top 50 big board that we are going to make
• 59:28
  as a podcast versus ESP NS top 50 big board.
• 59:31
  So right now we're only going to have six players on it.
• 59:34
  But this is an interesting conversation that we need to
• 59:36
  have because it really depends on what criteria you guys want
• 59:39
  to use to rank these guys. Do you guys want to rank them
• 59:42
  based off of positional value? Do you want to rank them based
• 59:45
  off of potential or do you want to rank them based off of who
• 59:49
  the best player is right now? I think I, I think for how well
• 59:54
  they're going to do in the league, so potential, OK.
• 59:57
  So I said that Caleb Downs is the best player, but I think
• 1:00:01
  that there is a case for Arville Reese as well because Caleb
• 1:00:05
  Downs to me is an NFL ready player right now.
• 1:00:09
  He will step onto an NFL field and he'll look like he's been
• 1:00:12
  there for five years already. Like you won't have to worry
• 1:00:14
  about Caleb Downs at all. However, I think with Arville
• 1:00:17
  Reese. I think he has a higher ceiling
• 1:00:19
  than Downs, but he's only got one year of starting experience
• 1:00:23
  and so you can tell there are some areas where it may take him
• 1:00:26
  some time to adjust to the NFL level.
• 1:00:28
  So I think Downs has a higher floor, but I think Reese has a
• 1:00:32
  higher ceiling. If he can fulfill his potential,
• 1:00:35
  I still. Like Downs over Reese, I do too,
• 1:00:37
  just because. I feel like he is the more NFL
• 1:00:40
  ready player. Like he's going to, like I said,
• 1:00:42
  he's going to step onto an NFL field, you're going to put him
• 1:00:45
  there and he's just going to make plays.
• 1:00:46
  He's going to look like he's been in the league for five plus
• 1:00:48
  years already. So to me, I think Caleb Downs is
• 1:00:52
  the number one player. I agree.
• 1:00:54
  OK. So who would you guys put in #2?
• 1:00:56
  League Arbell I. Also think it's Arbell Reese, I
• 1:00:59
  don't know how. To take care everything I hate,
• 1:01:01
  I have Jeremy. I love it.
• 1:01:02
  My #2I. Do hate that you're right,
• 1:01:05
  you're good. I have RV Reese at #3 so I'm
• 1:01:09
  good with RV Reese. I mean, this is how we it's give
• 1:01:11
  and take, right? I'm good with RV Reese being at
• 1:01:13
  at at 2:00. But based off of like I guess
• 1:01:18
  situational potential, depending on where Jeremiah life goes, he
• 1:01:21
  can generally be in talks for working here, right?
• 1:01:25
  Not that not that RV Reese can't and Caleb Downs can't, but I I
• 1:01:29
  like, I think I just think Jeremiah loves you have a better
• 1:01:32
  NFL career. It comes to stats, but again,
• 1:01:35
  that's a lot easier to cherry pick for offense and defense.
• 1:01:38
  How good would you say if if this guy, if Love, has the exact
• 1:01:43
  same career as Todd Gurley, would you still rank him there?
• 1:01:48
  Do you not remember how good Todd Gurley was?
• 1:01:50
  I think that's. Worth it I do.
• 1:01:52
  Remember. Distantly.
• 1:01:53
  Yeah, yeah, distantly. He wasn't even.
• 1:01:55
  Played long enough. That.
• 1:01:58
  That is. Kind of how I see him a little
• 1:02:00
  bit. I, I, I think he has the
• 1:02:01
  potential to peek as good as girly, but I do think that his,
• 1:02:05
  I think his floor is a lot lower, not, not than girly.
• 1:02:09
  I think that the floor is basically girly, but I, I, I
• 1:02:12
  just don't see him. It's really just a running back
• 1:02:15
  bias for me. I think I've got him lower at
• 1:02:18
  six. We may have to agree to disagree
• 1:02:22
  though. That's a positional value.
• 1:02:24
  Thing right there. So that does come into play when
• 1:02:26
  we're ranking these things. So I mean, Will, if you're cool
• 1:02:29
  with Arvo Reese, I think Arvo Reese should be at #2 I am.
• 1:02:33
  Good with that. OK, so Avery, who do you have at
• 1:02:36
  #3? I've got.
• 1:02:38
  Mendoza I. Also have Mendoza at #3 but will
• 1:02:41
  you? Have 4:00 because I've got
• 1:02:43
  Jeremiah. I love Empire so I would.
• 1:02:47
  Be I would be willing to concede somewhere here, but I've got
• 1:02:52
  some other guys creeping into this, you know, in the next
• 1:02:55
  following weeks, you know, I've got I've got some shake UPS.
• 1:02:59
  I like it. I.
• 1:03:00
  Guess at this point I I realize now I'll have to come with some
• 1:03:03
  persuasive arguments because it's not just my opinion and my
• 1:03:07
  vibes, it's also like I got to, I got to convince here.
• 1:03:09
  I got to. It's the Shark Tank, you know, I
• 1:03:12
  got a. There's a 100% chance that our
• 1:03:15
  top 6 this week is not top 6 next week, yeah.
• 1:03:19
  Absolutely, Absolutely. 100% chance, 100%.
• 1:03:22
  Yeah, yeah. Cool.
• 1:03:23
  I think we're all in agreement there.
• 1:03:24
  All right. So we're putting Fernando at
• 1:03:26
  3:00. Yeah, yeah, OK.
• 1:03:28
  Cool. All right, so we have David
• 1:03:31
  Bailey, Jeremiah Love and Reuben Bain.
• 1:03:33
  Does anybody not think Reuben Bain should be at six?
• 1:03:37
  I have David. Bailey at six, right?
• 1:03:40
  But just for this week. But I I think both of these guys
• 1:03:43
  are not top 6 people, but we've only got 6 numbers so I'm
• 1:03:49
  curious. Well, why are you putting Ruben
• 1:03:50
  Bayne over David Bailey? Is it just because of the run
• 1:03:53
  defense? Yeah.
• 1:03:54
  I think I think Ruben Bayne is a more so if you look at those
• 1:03:59
  like octagonal graphs that have the the spider webs out like you
• 1:04:04
  know, in 2K you're looking at how you're in Madden, how good
• 1:04:06
  the player is. I think that David Bailey spikes
• 1:04:10
  a lot more in pass rushing everything like that, but I
• 1:04:15
  think his overall would be less than Reuben Baines.
• 1:04:18
  If we're talking Madden stats, he would have a higher
• 1:04:22
  individual stat than Reuben Bain would have across the board.
• 1:04:26
  I think his overall would be lower.
• 1:04:28
  It's like you're looking for a receiver.
• 1:04:29
  I don't care what his catch rating is.
• 1:04:30
  He just needs 99 speed. All right, well.
• 1:04:35
  I tried to make it easy by trying to get us to be in
• 1:04:37
  agreement on him at six, but maybe not so much.
• 1:04:40
  So I have him at six, but where do you guys have Reuben Bain?
• 1:04:45
  You have him at? I have him at 5:00.
• 1:04:48
  Five. OK, I have him at 5:00.
• 1:04:50
  OK, I'm. Cool with Reuben Bain at 5:00,
• 1:04:52
  but we need to figure out who's our four so.
• 1:04:55
  We've got you're my love, right? You're my love, Avery.
• 1:04:58
  Are you cool with that? All concede that for the week,
• 1:05:01
  Yeah, that's where. That's where I have Jeremiah.
• 1:05:03
  Love, Jeremiah. Love's a better athlete than,
• 1:05:06
  and I'm well comfortable saying this, he's a better athlete and
• 1:05:09
  a better football player than both Ruben Bayne and David
• 1:05:15
  Bailey, I guess. My my thing is, is more just
• 1:05:18
  like I think there are a lot of skill players that that are
• 1:05:21
  really just subject to the other players around them.
• 1:05:24
  And I think that pass rushers are a little harder to come by.
• 1:05:28
  And I think that the lifespan of the player, I kind of edge out
• 1:05:33
  to the edge rushers, the pass rushers or just, you know, run
• 1:05:36
  stoppers. So for that reason, I am get, I
• 1:05:39
  am, you know, biased against the running backs a little bit more,
• 1:05:42
  but we can talk this out in other weeks.
• 1:05:45
  Does this help? Avery, I think both Reuben Bayne
• 1:05:48
  and David Bailey get drafted before Jeremiah Love.
• 1:05:51
  I think they both would think I. Think that would be a smart
• 1:05:53
  thing for the for the for the teams to do.
• 1:05:55
  I think that would be smart for them to do.
• 1:05:57
  Yeah. He.
• 1:05:57
  Just drafted above them. I don't think he's, I don't
• 1:06:00
  think Ruben Bain or David Bailey are better players.
• 1:06:03
  Well, let. Me ask you, do you think that
• 1:06:04
  the teams that draft them above him, do you think that in 10
• 1:06:10
  years they regret that? No.
• 1:06:12
  Because. Because.
• 1:06:13
  I guess, I guess that's my rubric it it's.
• 1:06:15
  All about team fit at this point.
• 1:06:17
  Now we're arguing team fit over how good a player is.
• 1:06:20
  And like you said, it's easier. Well, you didn't really say
• 1:06:23
  this. You kind of hinted at this.
• 1:06:24
  It's easier to find a good enough running back to where you
• 1:06:27
  don't have to draft one in the top 10.
• 1:06:29
  And so I mean, look at Rico Download this year.
• 1:06:32
  He came out and exploded for Carolina and so it's it's easy
• 1:06:36
  enough to find a guy who's a a good scheme fit guy to do really
• 1:06:40
  well where you don't have to use your top ten pick for.
• 1:06:43
  So I I agree with what you're saying, but in sheer athletics,
• 1:06:47
  I I that's where I think that Jeremiah Love fits in our top
• 1:06:51
  five. That, on sheer athleticism, is
• 1:06:53
  why it hasn't been too. Based on that rubric, I I agree.
• 1:06:57
  I agree with you. I got it.
• 1:06:58
  I I did, I came with an argument that you can agree with.
• 1:07:03
  We'll see if Avery does comprise to you next week.
• 1:07:06
  And hey, I'm willing to listen to the arguments I.
• 1:07:09
  Purposely did not did not pay attention to anyone else.
• 1:07:12
  I I solely focused on these guys so that next week I could maybe
• 1:07:17
  shuffle this up. So I'm trying to keep it
• 1:07:20
  exciting. All right.
• 1:07:22
  So our top 6, so we've got one, is Caleb Downs, 2 is our real
• 1:07:26
  Reese. We've got Fernando Mendoza at
• 1:07:28
  3:00 and then Jeremiah Love at four, Ruben Bain's going at 5:00
• 1:07:33
  and then David Bailey at six. Is that correct?
• 1:07:34
  I'm cool with that for now. Yep, for now.
• 1:07:37
  OK, 4 hours. You got word for that right?
• 1:07:40
  There's. Only top 6.
• 1:07:41
  There's only six players on our big board 6.
• 1:07:43
  Numbers. Exactly.
• 1:07:45
  So next week we'll shake it up, but for now we've only got 6.
• 1:07:48
  So yeah. Do you guys have anything else
• 1:07:50
  you want to add before we close out the show?
• 1:07:53
  Only 44 more players. Only 44 more see once.
• 1:08:02
  We get down to like the lower part, like probably like range
• 1:08:05
  like 40 to 50. There might be some players that
• 1:08:07
  we put into the top 50 that are not on ESPN top 50.
• 1:08:11
  I already know one. I won't reveal it now, but I
• 1:08:13
  already know one for sure that I am 100% putting in the top 50
• 1:08:16
  that ESPN does not have in the top 50.
• 1:08:18
  He is my second favorite player that I've scouted so far.
• 1:08:21
  He 100% deserves to be in the top 50 and ESPN does not have
• 1:08:24
  him there. So yeah, once we get down to
• 1:08:27
  that range, we'll play with that a little bit more, but for now
• 1:08:30
  we've only got to six. So that's all we got on today's
• 1:08:32
  episode guys. But next week, we're going to be
• 1:08:34
  ranking the top 12 players on ESP NS top big board.
• 1:08:39
  So we'll talk about players 7 through 12 and then we will
• 1:08:42
  adjust them in our top 12. And so we'll be doing that next
• 1:08:45
  week. Stay tuned for that.
• 1:08:47
  And as always, guys, don't forget to keep your balls played
• 1:08:49
  with. We'll see you next time.
• 1:08:51
  Bye now. Y'all so Mark Davis's haircut
• 1:08:53
  still sucks?