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Show 57: Saint Hildegard von Bingen Part 1 · The Uncensored Catholic

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Hey, y'all, welcome to today's show. Today we're going to get into
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a subject I find endlessly fascinating as an herbalist and as a Catholic saint.
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Hildegard von Benjen a doctor of the Church, one of the few female doctors
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of the Church, very likely the greatest herbalist of all time, whose knowledge
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of herbal medicine was taught to her by the voice of the Living Light,
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as she put at conversations with Jesus, angels and saints. She wrote much
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of the church's music. She wrote incredible books on theology. She was a
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mystic and a really really important saint. We'll get into that in just a
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minute, but you know, as always, let's start with a couple of
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questions and answers from the classical book on apologetics. Radio replies, the questioner
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has been asking the priests about justice in the next world. The name sure
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of punishment for sin and such as that, And he continues, why bother
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about justice here? If all injustice is to be recotified and compensate in the
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next world. The priests respond, you're forgetting your own principle. These man
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previously argue that right is right because it's right and wrong is wrong, regardless
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what the Church says. And they explain to him very clearly that each man's
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conscience does not understand right and wrong in the same way, and without the
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morality of the Church, one has no guide. They said, you are
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forgetting your own principle. You must do right always, because right is right.
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If not, we shall be punished by God, precisely because the right
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was right and we should have done it. It belongs to God to adjust
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all seeming inequalities in the next world. But that in no way exempts man
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from his present duties. Man must acknowledge the benefits they have received from God
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and discharge their obligations toward God, even as He discharged their obligations toward fellow
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men. This is a strict duty. Not all men will fulfill this duty
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in the practice, and God will deal with him sooner or later, compensating
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those who have suffered from injustices of their fellow men. He continues, Can
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we say that there will be justice in another world because it is conspicuously absent
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in this He seems to be coming around a little bit, doesn't he,
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Yes, you can, because you would not advert to the absence of justice
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unless you had a sense of justice. The relative and inferior sense of justice
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possessed by men supposes an absolute justice, and that absolute justice will secure the
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absolute balance it demands someday. The fact that absolute justice does not prevail in
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this life indicates enough that it will do so in a future life. If
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there's one thing we cannot count on in this life, especially in our era,
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it is justice. Our courts, our law enforcement, at least at
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the federal level, have become incredibly corrupt and in need of great reform.
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That's my soapbox for the day. The man goes on the injustice of this
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life, the injustices of this life demand another life. But I believe in
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reincarnation. Well, now there's a subject we could get into for now.
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They just explained to him that reincarnation is not legitimate, but we will get
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great into great depth on reincarnation in future episodes. Justice does not say that
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this life cannot be all, But your idea of reincarnation is a mistaken notion
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based upon your notion that life is impossible unless on this earth. But there
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is no need for another life on this earth, which would involve further inequalities.
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There is a better life than this afterwards and elsewhere. Reincarnation is a
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myth, all right, boy, do I want to get into why reincarnation
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is a myth, But I will hold that for another show, because it
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is actually quite important, quite important. This was a matter that was dealt
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with not just by the early Church, but you know some of the greatest
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Greek philosophers. Well, i'll hold it for another day. It's just too
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big a subject for me to touch on lightly and then not give you the
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full But yes, unfortunately, many very good whelmating people who believe in reincarnation
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are quite mistaken, and we'll have quite a shock when the end of their
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life comes. And let's just hope that their morals related to their system of
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belief have helped them get to a good spiritual place by the end of their
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lives. Even if they're well, they've been taught was mistaken, because you
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know, we're only judged by what we know and understand, and when someone
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is taught a false system, God does have mercy on people. All right,
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Let's get into Saint Hildegarde vrom Binging. As I mentioned, greatest herbalists
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ever lived, definitely I mean all my work is an herbalist is placed under
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her patronage. She was born in ten ninety eight. She was a sickly
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child, given into the care of the Benedictines around the age of eight.
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Because of her illness, she received very little education. She was often blind
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and unable to walk well enough, and blind and unable to walk well through
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her teens. She would continue to suffer from severe illness throughout her life.
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From childhood, she received visions and divine messages. She saw and heard what
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she described as the voice of the Living Light. She wrote, from my
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early childhood, before my bones, nerves, and veins were fully strengthened,
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I have all seen this vision in my soul, even to the present time,
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when I am more than seventy years old. In this vision, my
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soul, as God would have it, rises up high into the vault of
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heaven and into the changing sky, and spreads itself out among different peoples,
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although they are far away from me and in distant lands and places. And
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because I see them in this way in my soul, I observe them in
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accord with the shifting of clouds and other created things. I do not hear
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them with my outward ears, nor do I perceive them by the thoughts of
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my own heart, or by any combination of my five senses, but in
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my soul alone, while my outward eyes are open. So I have never
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fallen prey to ecstasy in the visions. But I see them wide awake,
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day and night. And I am constantly fettered by sickness, and often by
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the grip of pain so intense that it threatens to kill me. But God
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sustained me until now. The light which I see, thus, it's not
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spatial, but it is far far brighter than a cloud which carries the sun.
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I can measure neither height, nor length nor breadth in it, and
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I call it the reflection of the living light. As the sun, the
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moons, and the stars appear in water. So writings, sermons, virtues,
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and certain human activity human actions take form for me and gleam. Saint
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Hildegarde was very hesitant to tell others of her writings. I mean she was
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so sickly as a child, she didn't get much education. She considered herself
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ignorant and unworthy, and was probably treated that way by her fellow nuns and
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confessor. Really, I mean she had to prove, like many saints do,
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that her visions were actually miraculous, rather than purchase being delusional or insane.
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Right, well, she said, but though, but though I saw
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and heard these things, refuse to write for a long time, through doubt,
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bad opinion, and diversity of human words. Not with stubbornness, but
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in the exercise of humility, until laid load by God, until laid low
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by the scourge of God. I fell upon a bed of sickness, then
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compelled at last by many illnesses, and by the witness of a certain noble
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maiden of good conduct, and of that man whom I had secretly sought and
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found as mentioned above, I set my hand to the writing. So she
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did, apparently learn to write. I'm not sure exactly what age. While
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I was doing it, I sensed, as I mentioned before, the deep
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profundity of the scriptural exposition. And raising myself from illness by the strength I
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received, I brought this work to a close, though just barely, in
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ten years. And I spoke and wrote these things not by the invention of
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my heart or that of any other person, but as by the secret mysteries
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of God. I had heard and received them in heavenly places, and again
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I heard a voice from heaven saying, and me cry out therefore and write
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thus. Saint Hildegard was approximately forty years of age when she began to write
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about her visions. Given modern skepticism of religion in general, I decided to
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turn to the most secular source I could find for information on my favorite saint.
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I didn't want to quote, you know, the Catholic Encyclopedia or anything
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like that. I pulled up Wikipedia. And you know, I certainly did
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not claim to be unbiased towards Saint Hildegard. She's really one of my favorite
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saints. And like I said, I ask her patrons for all my work.
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I pray to her daily. So I figure out what could be more
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modernist and secular than Wikipedia. Right. Wikipedia actually has great praise for Saint
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Hildegard. Hildegard. It says Hildegard's work include three great volumes of visionary theology,
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a variety of musical compositions for use in the liturgy, as well as
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the musical morality play Ordo Ordo Virtutum. One of what is that work of
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virtue? I guess one of the largest bodies of letters. Nearly four hundred
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letters survived to survive from the Middle Ages, addressed to correspondence raging from popes
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to emperors, to abbots and abbesses, and include records of the many sermons
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she preached in the eleven sixties and eleven seventies. Very important. You know,
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people will say all the Catholic Church, doesn't you know, is against
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women and doesn't respect women. Saint Hildegard was encouraged by the Pope to travel
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as much as she could and preach in Catholic churches. Two volumes of material
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on natural medics and cures, which I use quite a bit, and an
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invented language called the Lingua Ignota the unknown language, which she said was the
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language of the angels, and various minor works, including a gospel commentary and
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two works of geography. Several manuscripts of her works were produced during her lifetime,
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including the illustrated Rupert's I Guess that Yeah, Rupertsburg manuscript of her first
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major work, skivas It's the Works Lost its nineteen forty five Dendermonde's Codex,
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which contains one version of her musical works, and the gentmanduscript, which was
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the first fair copy made for editing of her final theological work, the Lieber
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Divinorum Operum. At the end of her life, and probably under her initial
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guidance, all of her works were edited and gathered into the single Rice and
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Codex manuscript. All right, so a lot of Saint Hildegard's work was written
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in Latin or record in Latin. But she was a German nun, and
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she used a lot of old German words. So you're gonna hear me stumble
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over a lot of things. I mean, it took one of the common
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ailments she was always giving cures for. It was the forgets to get well,
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forgets to get or the gist as she just called. It could be
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anything from arthritis to paralysis from a stroke, a palsy, stiffness of muscles
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and joints. It takes a lot of research, especially as she often wrote
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in very spiritual terms, it's really kind of a life's work just to understand
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her system of herbal medicine and her understanding of disease and medicine. I mean,
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this is someone around eleven who understood viruses long before they are discovered by
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science, understood sales, understood physics, and nuclear energy. I mean,
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there's no way her human knowledge could have given her this insight. But the
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way she wrote about it was in very spiritual terms. And you know I've
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said before she's called virus is something like spiritual worms or ghost worms. Well,
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think about what a virus is. It's neither truly alive or dead.
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And the way they infect a person and the way they spread very much like
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parasitic worms. Actually, when we begin to understand the language, her language
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and understanding of the ten hundreds before a microscope was even invented, we can
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begin to look at some of her paintings and drawings and her words and we,
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oh, wow, she just described a sell you know, she's talking
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about electrons and protons, and she's talking about things that you know, people
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would not understand for a very long time, physics, the nature of energy.
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Really, I mean, you know, amazing. Actually, So let's
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see they say that hill Regard's most significan it works were her three volumes of
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visionary theology, Skivios Know the Ways, lib Liber Vide Meritorium, the Book
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of Life's Spirits or the Book of Life's Rewards, and Lieber Divinorum Operam Book
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of the divine Works, also known as De Operation a Day or on God's
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Activity, composed around eleven sixty three sixty four. In these volumes, the
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last of which was completed when she was well into her seventies, Hildegarde first
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describes each vision, whose details are often strange and enigmatic, and then interprets
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so theological contexts in the words of the Voice of the Living Light. With
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permission from Abbott Kuno of Discebodenberg. You know there's there's my facility with the
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German language Dissebodiberg, I don't know. She began journaling visions she had,
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which became the became the basis for skivas Is, a contraction of Ski vs.
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Dominie Know the Ways of the Lord, and it was Hildegard's first major
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visionary work and one of her biggest milestones of her life. Perceiving a divine
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command to write down what you see in here, Hildegard began to record and
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interpret her visionary experience. In total, twenty six visionary experiences were captured in
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this compilation. Skivias is structured into three parts of unequal length. The first
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part, six visions, chronicles the order of God's creation, the creation and
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fall of Adam and Eve, the structure of the universe, which she described
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as the shape of an egg. If you know much about ancient philosophy,
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theology, myths of other cultures, you'll find that that the universe being described
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as an egg is actually very common to many ancient cultures. By the way,
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she would have had no knowledge of this, and you know, maybe
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something very much worth thinking about there. It was actually a concept that was
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ripped off by oh what was his name, Well, it doesn't really matter.
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In the sixties and seventies there was an author that claimed to have worked
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with an Indian shaman in Mexico. He wrote a bunch of fiction novels,
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presenting them as fact and became sort of a cult leader. And really what
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he would do is go down the Universal University library and pull up mystical works,
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pull ideas out of him. What was the name of his first book,
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don Juan, you know anyway? Really bad dude, Really bad dude
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kind of had a coven of witches that hung around him and convinced Carlos Castaneda
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convinced many, many, many people to use a lot of drugs and go
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crazy and worship demons. Really bad Dude turned out to be a complete and
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total fraud, but he popularized in the New Age circles that idea of the
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universe being like an egg and the human being sort of a microcosm of the
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universe. Something to Saint Hildegard was writing in you know, around eleven hundred.
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It certainly wasn't anything new he had come up with. And yeah,
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you'll find similar writings in ancient Asian and various various traditions, various religions of
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different cultures that spoke different languages and weren't necessarily communicating with each other. Carlos
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Castineta really bad dude. Anyway, She wrote the relationship between the Body and
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saw God's relationship to his people through the synagogue and the choirs of angels.
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The second part, consisting of seven visions, described the Order of Redemption,
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the coming of Christs or redeem the Trinity, the Church is the Bride of
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Christ and the Mother of the faithful, and Baptism and confirmation, the orders
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of the Church, Christ's sacrifice on the Cross and the Eucharist, and the
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fight against the devil. Finally, the third part, consisting of thirteen Visions
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recapitulates the history of Salvation told in the first two parts. Symbolized as a
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building adorned with various allegorical figures and virtues. It concludes with the Symphony of
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Heaven and an early version of Hillregard's first musical composition, so S wrote a
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lot of music. In early eleven forty eight, a commission was sent by
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the Pope to there's that town name again, Dissey Bodenberg. I'm sure there's
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no way it's pronounced that way, but I'm going with it. Okay,
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you know, hey, these are people. As much as I love my
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German friends, they think the height of cuisine is to take a sausage and
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put a mixture of ketchup and curry on it. Yeah, anybody that likes
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curry curry war or deserves to live in a town called Dissy Dissy Bowdenberg.
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But no, actually, I have im missed respect for a German cuisine and
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say it's actually on the finest on earth. And I grew up around a
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lot of Germans, let's say, not always the people with the best sense
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of humor. But my word, can they cook regardless curry worst, That's
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just it just it's basically a hot dog mixed mixed, dipped in a mix
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of sweet American ketchup from curry powder. I guess it's an acquired taste.
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But man, it's just so weird to be eating all this, like really
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really good food, very much informed by the classical traditions and in complex and
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well made that suddenly you got hot dogs dipped in ketchup. Yeah I don't.
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I don't ever put hot ketchup on a hot dog. By the way.
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I love hot dogs, especially with some good brown mustard and onions and
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hot sauce and sauer kraut. You know that's my taste. You start going
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with sweet cat ship and that's just like, wow, where where did you
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people fall off the culinary cliff? Seriously? Anyway? And yeah, so
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the Pope sent to find out more about hell Regard in her writings. The
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commission found that the visions were authentic and returned to the Pope with a portion
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of Skivos. Portions of the uncompleted work were read allowed to Pope Eugenious a
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third at the Synod of Trier in eleven forty eight, after which he sent
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hill Regard a letter with his blessing. The blessing was later construed as a
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papal approval for all of Hill regards wide ranging theological activities. Towards the end
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of her life, Hildegard commissioned a richly decorated manuscript of skivos known as the
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Rupertsburg Codex. Although the original has been lost since it's evacuation of Dresden for
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safekeeping in nineteen forty five, its images are preserved in a hand paint effect
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simile from the nineteen twenties and her second volume of Visionary Theology, composed between
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eleven fifty eight eleven sixty three, she had moved her community of Nons into
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independence. At Rupertsburg and Benin, Hildegard tackled the moral life in the form
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of dramatic confrontations between the virtues and vices. She'd already explored this area and
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her musical morality play Orto Rudum, and in the book of Rewards of Life,
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she takes up that play's characteristic theme. Each vice, although ultimately depicted
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as ugly and grotesque, nevertheless offers alluring, seductive speeches that attempt to entice
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the unwary soul into their clutches standing in our defense. However, are the
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sober voices of the virtues powerfully confronting every vicious deception. Amongst the work's innovations
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is one of the earliest descriptions of purgatory as the place where each soul would
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have to work off its debts after death before entering heaven. Hildegard's description of
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the possible punishments there are often gruesome and grotesque, which emphasized the work's moral
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and pastoral purpose as a practical guide to life of true penance and proper virtue.
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Hildegard's last and grandest visionary work had its genesis in one of the few
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times she experienced something like an ecstatic loss of consciousness, as she described it
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in an autobiographical passage in her Vitas. Sometime around eleven sixty three, she
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received an extraordinary mystical vision in which she revealed the sprinkling drops of sweet rain
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that John the Evangelist had experienced when he wrote in the beginning was the Word.
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Hildegard perceived that this word was the key to the work of God,
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of which human kind is the pinnacle. The book of divine works. Therefore
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became, in many ways an extended explication of the Prologue to John's Gospel.
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The ten visions of this work's three parts are cosmic in scale to illustrate the
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various ways of understanding the relationship between God and his Often that relationship is established
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by grand allegorical female figures representing divine love or wisdom. The first vision opens
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the work with a salvo of poetic and visionary images swirling about to characterize God's
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dynamic activity within the scope of his work within the history of salvation. The
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remaining three visions of the first part introduced the famous image of a human being
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standing astride the spheres that make up the universe, and detail the intricate relationship
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between the human as microcosm and the universe's macrocosm. This culminates in the final
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chapter, Part one, Vision four with Hildegard's commentary on the prolog to John's
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Gospel, a direct rumination on the meaning of in the beginning was the word,
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the single vision that constitutes the part. The whole of Part two stretches
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that rumination back to the opening of Genesis and forms extended commentary on the seven
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days of Creation that the world told in Genesis one through three. This commentary
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interprets each day of creation in three ways, literal or cosmological, allegorical or
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ecclesiological ecclesiological related to the church's history, and moral tripological i related to the
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soul's growth in virtue. Finally, the five versions of the third part take
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up again the building imagery of Scivias to describe the the course of the course
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of human history. The final vision contains Hildegard's longest and most detailed prophetic program
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of the life of the Church, from her own days of womanish weakness,
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as she called it, through the coming and ultimate downfall of the Antichrist.
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Attention in recent decades to women of the medieval Catholic Church has led to a
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great deal of popular interests in Hildegard's music. In addition to the Order of
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Virtucchium, sixty nine musical compositions, each with its own original poetic texts,
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survive, and at least four other texts are known through their musical notation,
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though their musical notation has been lost. As one of the largest repertories among
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medieval composers, one of her better works is Ordo Virtutum play of the Virtues
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is morality play. It is uncertain when some of the Field of Guard's compositions
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were composed, though Ordo Virtucchum is thought to have been composed as early as
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eleven fifty one. It is an independent Latin morality play with music of prized
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of eighty two songs. It is, in fact the earliest known surviving musical
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drama that is not attached to a liturgy. Well, you know, obviously
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this goes on and on, and it is fascinating. I'm going to go
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ahead and say she talked about all the Gregorian chants that I mean, you
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know, at the very least, she was one of the most intelligent,
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creative women the world has ever known. But the fact that she was literally
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speaking to Jesus and Mary and angels and other saints and given her incredible medicinal
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and scientific work not only gosh, I mean, not only just the profundity
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of her work, but how much she was respecting her own life. She
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was called the civil of the Rhine. Sibil sorry Sibyl of the Rhine.
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People came from all over the world to consult with her. Religious people,
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kings, emperors, you name it. She She should be absolutely studied,
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I mean as much as any figure in secular life and in church history.
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And I really, I mean, look, I didn't even get a third
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into what Wikipedia has to say for her about her, so I mean,
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you know, check it out. I'm not going to read it all verbatim.
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That would be a little ridiculous, But I do want to get into
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a lot more about her, her idea of health, her idea of man
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and God in the universe, her idea of healing, and how God gave
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us herbs and such to be used and for our health. And I think
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you're gonna find it, you know, absolutely absolutely fascinating, and I would
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do that. I'll probably take a couple of shows, but I think I'll
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go ahead and wrap this one up here. Just remember her feast day is
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September seventeen, so it's it's coming up soon. She was a favorite saint
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of Pope Saint Pope Saint John Paul the second and Pope Benedict the sixteenth.
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Very important. Again, I will say, there's so much criticism over Catholicism
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and the so called patriarchy, and you know, all the new age folks
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will say, oh, the you know, the Church persecuted did herbalists and
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called them all which is actually no actually that could be, that could not
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be farther from the truth. I mean, it was the Church spread throughout
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the Western world, with the free hospitals operated by the Benedictines and the Francistians
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and various well, various orders. Actually they all used herbs to heal.
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The first herbal book of the Christian era was written by Abbott Walaford Strabo around
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seven hundred, who was the tutor to the Emperor Holy Roman Emperor Charlemagne's grandkids
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and very high up in the church hierarchy and one of the doctors of the
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Church and one of our greatest saints. Wrote two well, one book purely
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on herbal medicine and another book on the nature of disease and death and it's
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it's spiritual as well as natural causes, and it's spiritual as well as natural
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cures. We really really need to be promoting the legacy of Saint Hildegarbon Benin
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as a way of countering what would I call it, well, neopaganism,
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the New Age movement, the feminist movement, and it's degradation of Catholicism.
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This was. I mean, Saint Hildegarver is a very strong women, a
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woman. She did not look down on women, and she did not I
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mean, she had things in the right perspective. I'll just put it that
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way. She had things in right perspective. And if we had a little
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more understanding of history as it actually happened instead of the woke radical you know,
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feminists, pro gay and transgendered communists, everything seen through the lens of
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race and sex and discrimination. If we had a little more knowledge of history
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as it actually happened, and this is a big aspect of it. I
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mean this woman literally, you know, it's one of those like foundational pillars
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of modern understanding of so many aspects of science and health. Not to mention
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she was also a patron of the church. A man named Paracelsus's father would
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teach it. And Paracelsus was a great physician, herbalist, alchemist and actually
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faithful Catholic, the father of toxicology. Wow, you know, I mean,
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her legacy is astounding. And of course all that music, and it's
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fantastic. It's one of the best things about YouTube is you can get on
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there and find music that you couldn't find in record stores when I was a
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kid. You had to order it. Now you can't find it anywhere.
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You can find three or four long hour or two three hour long collections of
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Saint Hildegard's musical compositions. I like to put them on, just put them
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on in the background. Who gives you this incredible sense of peace and mental
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clarity. Wonderful music to work by or to listen to while you're sleeping or
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relaxing. Highly recommended. And as I said, her theological books are very
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deep and you're gonna have to have a lot of prayer devotion to understand them.
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Her medical books are almost on the same level. Almost Physica is an
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herbal book, but is so much spiritual in it. Cause a cure causes
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and cures is going to take a whole lot of prayer to get through.
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So anyway, y'all, let's grab this one up. Saint Hildegard, pray
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for us, and in the words of Saint Padre Pio, pray hope and
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don't worry the name of Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. I'll
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talk with you all tomorrow.