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Championship Recaps, Super Bowl Prediction, Robot Refs, Cousins Curse, Heartwarming JJ | TSH Ep. 77 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of the School Hop.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Evan and I'm Austin. We're just a couple of dudes.
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  Speaker 1: From We like drinking beer talking about the Vikings, of
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  Speaker 1: course we do.
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  Speaker 2: But this week I think we maybe spent a little
• 0:12
  Speaker 2: bit too much time talking about other teams than the
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  Speaker 2: Vikings teams that were actually in the conference championship games.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: And we also spent probably an obnoxious amount of time
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  Speaker 1: talking about referees in the future of calling NFL games,
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  Speaker 1: which I actually think like we had some pretty insightful
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  Speaker 1: conversations about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the future is bright. But in the meantime, we
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  Speaker 2: tried a really good sour from Big Row Brewery, and
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of saying something because neither of us are
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  Speaker 2: really sour fans. Yeah. I really enjoyed it, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: And then we also spent a little bit of time
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  Speaker 2: at the very end.
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  Speaker 1: Talking about how awesome the future quarterback one of the
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  Speaker 1: Vikings is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we love jj He's pretty great. He's a good dude. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: So grab a cold one, join us School School and
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  Speaker 2: it's gift much.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we are going to give just a quick
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Big Top. I saw a tweet today I
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  Speaker 2: think it was originally an Instagram post of Will the
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  Speaker 2: Thrill the Beach in Cancun. I highly doubt he went
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  Speaker 2: through Big Top Ventures. But if you would have, he
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• 2:22
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  Speaker 2: any of you players are listening, I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: you'd listen to a Vikings podcast or in anything football
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  Speaker 2: related at all. Right now, but uh, yeah, go ahead
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  Speaker 2: and check out Big Tap Ventures. Yeah, good rates. I
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  Speaker 2: hear you know what else is good? What's that beer?
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  Speaker 2: Beer is good? And stuff? You brought the beer tonight?
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  Speaker 2: I did bring the beer.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited for this because I've seen it and I've
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  Speaker 1: wanted to try it.
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  Speaker 2: But here we are. Yeah. So I picked this beer
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  Speaker 2: out solely for two reasons. One, it is a Big
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  Speaker 2: Grove Brewery beer. We like Big Grove a lot. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we've said it in a while on
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  Speaker 2: the show, but we do have our rule of on
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  Speaker 2: the show, Iowa only beers. We did almost kind of
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  Speaker 2: break that rule a few weeks ago with the Before
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  Speaker 2: I Die from Surly, but that wasn't the main beer
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  Speaker 2: of the episode. So that was we were pregaming. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: friend of the show Forest, we were pregaming. It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't the main beer of the episode. Okay, this
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  Speaker 2: one is the main beer of the episode, Big Grove
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  Speaker 2: Breweries Into the Woods. It's a BlackBerry and raspberry sour.
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  Speaker 2: On the side it says it's a kettle sour with lactose,
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  Speaker 2: raspberries and blackberries. Evan, they do have a little a
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  Speaker 2: little description. Do you want to read that? Do you
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  Speaker 2: want me to read that? I'll read it all right.
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  Speaker 2: So it says raspberries and blackberries give a natural tart
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  Speaker 2: fruity zing, while lactose provides an ideal body to this
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  Speaker 2: electable seasonal seasonal treat originally brewed in collaboration with Copper
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  Speaker 2: Kettle Brewery. Grab a can of this perfect kettle sour
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  Speaker 2: and head into the Woods. Yeah, we both kind of
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  Speaker 2: admitted to we don't really know much about kettle sours.
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  Speaker 2: It's the style of beer. I've heard of it, I
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  Speaker 2: just don't know much about it. So if I've heard
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  Speaker 2: of it, I've forgotten about it. So, yeah, I said,
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  Speaker 2: two reasons I picked this up. One, it's a big
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  Speaker 2: row beer too. The can's pretty cool and it kind
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  Speaker 2: of reminds me of the Minnesota wild with like a
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  Speaker 2: red sky and like green trees and stuff. So and apparently,
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  Speaker 2: also Into the Woods is the name of a musical
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  Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, I haven't. I'm not a musical guy,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm not. I haven't seen it. So, but let's
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  Speaker 2: let's crack these open. You already cracked yours open. Let's
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  Speaker 2: give these a try. I'm excited. I wouldn't normally grab
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  Speaker 2: a sour, and honestly, if the can didn't look this cool,
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  Speaker 2: I would not have grabbed this one. But uh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: big groove, whoever designed your cans? I like how you
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  Speaker 2: moved on really quickly from your statement of I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a musical guy, but let's not forget that you were.
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  Speaker 2: You don't need to say that you were in a
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  Speaker 2: musical in high school. Prove it. And I was not
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  Speaker 2: improve it. I was only in it because because of you.
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  Speaker 1: I walked by a picture of you in the cast
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  Speaker 1: photo every day on my way to work.
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  Speaker 2: Prove it. It didn't happen.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to take the picture tomorrow when
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  Speaker 1: I get to work, and I will post it everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's funny? Have I told you the story
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  Speaker 2: about my son and that photo? No? Okay, so really
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  Speaker 2: quick before we give this beer review. Yes, I was
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  Speaker 2: goaded into auditioning for the high school musical in high school,
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  Speaker 2: and Evan said he would show up for auditions as well.
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  Speaker 2: He never did. I'd never I don't remember saying I
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  Speaker 2: would show up. I only went to auditions because you
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  Speaker 2: said you're gonna show up. Anyways, that's not the point of.
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  Speaker 1: The store's peer pressured probably just as much, if not
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  Speaker 1: more than you were.
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  Speaker 2: And I was pretty adamant I don't sing or dance. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I I may have done both of those things. So
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  Speaker 2: I made the show because every guy who auditioned made
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: the show because they were desperate for every guy. It's
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  Speaker 2: not that I have a good singing voice. Believe me,
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  Speaker 2: you couldn't hear me if you attended those shows. And
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  Speaker 2: they take a cast Every show takes a cast photo.
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  Speaker 2: And Evan may Or may not be associated with the
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  Speaker 2: high school that we attended, and that cast photo is
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  Speaker 2: still hanging up in the hallway. My wife also may
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  Speaker 2: or may not be associated with the school district. So
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  Speaker 2: I was at that building a couple of years ago
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  Speaker 2: with my then two year old three year old son
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  Speaker 2: and he was kind of throwing a fit in the
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  Speaker 2: event that we were watching, and so I took him
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  Speaker 2: out in the hallway and he pointed at the wall
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  Speaker 2: and said dad or daddy or dadad whatever. He said.
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  Speaker 2: I was like what, And I look over and there's
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  Speaker 2: the high school musical cast photo. And I don't remember
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  Speaker 2: this apparently when they took that photo. I'm like front,
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  Speaker 2: front and center, like you are very much you're there,
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  Speaker 2: Like if you know who you are, you can find
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  Speaker 2: you in that picture. Yeah, like quickly right in the middle,
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  Speaker 2: towards the front, like almost to the point that if
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  Speaker 2: you knew nothing about that show, you would assume that
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  Speaker 2: I had some kind of an important part. No, I
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  Speaker 2: was just the background dude, one of many background dudes.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I had no idea that photo was hanging
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  Speaker 2: in there. But my two three year old son randomly
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  Speaker 2: saw me from probably a handful of feet away and said, Dad,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't I don't look drastically different. You have
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  Speaker 2: a beard. Now, I look pretty different than I did
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  Speaker 2: in high school. I'm a little bit larger, and I
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  Speaker 2: do have some more facial hair, and uh, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's surprising that he pointed me out there, But thanks
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  Speaker 2: Sevan for for outing me. And I guess I dove
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  Speaker 2: headfirst into this whole story. So you did because you
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  Speaker 2: brought up the fact that into the woods of the musical, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: which that's not the musical that I may or may
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  Speaker 2: not have been in. So this tried the beard to
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  Speaker 2: the woods from Big Grove. I'm noticing you kind of
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  Speaker 2: said it. Before we started recording, you said it'd probably
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  Speaker 2: be like a red purple color, and it kind of
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  Speaker 2: it kind of it is for sure. Yeah, it's I
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  Speaker 2: don't I'm trying to land on what this color actually is.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a fuchia, sure, magenta. It's it's definitely got
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  Speaker 1: like red and purple. It's kind of a mix of
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  Speaker 1: those two things. It's very fruity, like you can smell
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  Speaker 1: the fruit coming off of it. You can also smell
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  Speaker 1: just the like sour vibe of it. So I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: definitely thinking it's gonna be a sour sour, not like
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  Speaker 1: like easy mellow.
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  Speaker 2: The lactose may help a little bit. We'll find out.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're watching on YouTube or Spotify, go ahead
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  Speaker 2: and comment and tell us which one had the better
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: poor just judging on who has the better head retention
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  Speaker 2: on this thing. Mine's very flat at this point. So
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: but yeah, let's give it a try into the woods,
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  Speaker 2: big grow school skull. All right, It's not too bad actually,
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  Speaker 2: in terms of the like tartness. It's definitely a sour.
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  Speaker 2: The lactose does help, Yeah, yeah, I think so. It
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  Speaker 2: kind of it quickly is very tart, but then also
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  Speaker 2: quickly mellows out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it hits you quickly, but then it I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the aftertaste is very smooth, almost like vanilla e almost we.
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  Speaker 2: Had we had a smoothie sour not too long, a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. Yeah, this kind of reminds me
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  Speaker 2: of that a little bit. It kind of It's kind
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: of given me some like smoothie vibes. Definitely the fruity. Ye,
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  Speaker 2: I don't mind this. It's not the category I would
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  Speaker 2: immediately reach for, but like if somebody handed me one,
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  Speaker 2: or if I saw it on a good deal, I
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  Speaker 2: absolutely would grab this beer. Again, I don't mind. It
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: probably tastes a lot better too on tap as well.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't want to sound like I don't like it.
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  Speaker 1: I like it a lot, But I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: take anything away from Big Grove or this really great beer.
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  Speaker 1: But I've seen this beer on the shelf at our
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  Speaker 1: local high and maybe I'll flash a picture up here
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  Speaker 1: of I think I'm gonna get this next week. We're
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: just we're going to dive into this, this one, or
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: you're talking about a different beer, a different one.
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  Speaker 2: It is Reunion's Mega Cake Stupid Dessert Sour well, yeah,
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: I mean so I think are we entering our sour era?
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: We might be all right, Well, I'm sorry for starting that.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: Well, we've also tried like every other Iowa beer that
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: we can get our hands on, so gotta expand our
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: horizons a little bit.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: I have been noticing our HIV is starting to get
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: a sprinkle of different types of beers. I think breweries
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: at this point. Maybe it's because I mean we're almost
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: two years into the school hop stuff. Maybe that's just
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: the cycle. Every couple of years they start putting out
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: different stuff. I know for a fact. No Coast, who
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: we had last week. Last week, they said that they're
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: going to be starting to kind of cycle out some
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: of their older ones and cycle in I think they
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: said like eight to ten new beers. So shout out
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  Speaker 2: No Coast if you're listening. We'd love to try those
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  Speaker 2: as well. Absolutely, I hope they don't get rid of
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: those nitros. Those were all really good.
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  Speaker 1: Every single one that we tried is super good, all
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  Speaker 1: three of them, I think, if I remember right, there
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  Speaker 1: were three.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, this into the Woods I really like it.
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  Speaker 2: I've had two SIPs so far. I can't wait to
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: give a full review once we've finished a couple of them.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I feel like I would definitely
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: seek this out now. A few minutes ago I was saying, yeah,
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: i'd take one if it were free, But no, I
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: mean I like it. There's nothing wrong with this.
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good stuff. It's refreshing, it's fruity, easy to drink.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like so sour that you pucker your lips
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: every sip that you take. So and six point two percent.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: It's not not a lightweight. But also, I mean we're
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: going to have a couple tonight and feel perfectly fine tomorrow.
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's always the goal for me. Anyways. Oh yeah,
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: I think this is a good chance to just quickly
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: mention the fact that Purple Punishments were done for the year. No, definitely,
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: you never know what done done until the regular season
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five starts. True. Yeah. So so with
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: all that in mind, listeners comment, send us an email,
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: do whatever you gotta do, tell us in person if
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: you know us, give us some ideas for purple punishments.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: We had a good, good list this year, but I
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: feel like it could be improved. Yeah, truth be told,
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: I kind of took that idea from or we kind
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: of morphed it originally from like dude, perfect wheel, unfortunate,
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: and some of those are like own a cat and
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: like get braces. Like we can't really do anything extreme
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: like that because we want to be able to pay
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: it off right on the episode. But yeah, if you
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: got a good idea about something, we can pay off
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: right on the episode. Obviously we have veto power. We're
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: not just going to accept and hold anything that is
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: sent to us. So none of us are going to
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: like get a face tattoo or something something like that.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: But yeah, we're open to any idea is Otherwise it's
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: just us looking up on the internet's what's good.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, for sure, go easy on us please. I
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: mean the vikings already are. They're tough on us.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: They make our lives rough doing a podcast and all
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: about them, but you know, it is what it is,
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: and we subject ourselves to these things. Yeah, for you guys,
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: for you the listener, I do the cinnamon challenge because
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: I thought it was entertaining. You did get your wish.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: I did wax my legs, yep, and I waxed twice
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: as much as you did. And your legs are probably
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: still smooth. I know for a fac I'm feeling my
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: two spots right now and they're still still very smooth.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: And that was what like a month ago? Yeah, yeah,
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: mine was like two weeks ago. Is not even like
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: just over really just over a week ago? Yeah. Yeah,
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: there's just this previous not this most recent Saturday, but
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: the one before. Yeah, so like Sat eight nine days. Yeah,
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: we keep saying it. They're not a sponsor, but Nair,
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. They provided a good waxing experience. So
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: if you're looking for anything, and.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: The calves weren't too bad, the inside was worse than
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: the outside.
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: I would say. I think somebody commented somewhere Facebook, YouTube
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: or whatever and said you should do your arm pits.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, I would do it. I'd do
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: my arm pits. That would man, that'd be awful. But yeah, hurt.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, that's going to be on the wheel
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: for next year. Wax, not wax a limb, wax your armpits. Yes,
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: all right, if it's on the wheel, you're subject to
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: it as well.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: That's true. All right, what's going on the wheel. It's
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: on there right now, all right, Okay, thank.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: You listener who commented that I would just.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: Like to point out I avoided waxing a limb when
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: it was on the wheel. You wasn't until we were
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: at the live event at river Ridge for the mainstreams
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: on Tap live event that I chose to subject myself
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: to that.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: I peer pressured you into it. You could have kept
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: saying no, but I also didn't let it die. So
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: and we kind of apologize.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: We mutually agreed that that would be the punishment for
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: missing the trivia at the live event.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: So and I would have done it again.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: But you did better in trivia than I did. So
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: I need to pick harder questions. You need to pick
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: easier question.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we'll release that at some point. I was
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: surprised you knew that the Vikings played a game in Tokyo, Japan.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that. That's so like, that just blew
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: my mind. I didn't even know that they played NFL
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: games in Japan. Well it was a preseason game, yeah,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: but still, you never know what's up here, man, especially
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: about the Purple and Gold, don't you. You certainly surpassed
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: my knowledge just random things, random knowledge, It's nothing I'll
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: actually use. I mean, it only ever benefited me by
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: not making me limb in front of a crowd of
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: like one hundred people. Yeah, maybe that was a really
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: fun event. Yeah, shout out mainstream. They put on a good,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: good event. Yeah, let us know if you want us
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: to post out some of the content we got there.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: So it's we're yelling at each other in the podcast,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: but because we couldn't really hear each other each other
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: at all. But it was fun. I loved hanging out
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: with those guys and seeing all the other podcasts and
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: drinking some good beer from River Roadge. Yeah, super good
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: beer for sure.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I figured we could quickly recap the
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: AFC and NFC conference championships. Not that I really want
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: to sit here and talk about other football teams, but
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: there's more football being played, and two teams won, and
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: they will play each other in a game that I.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Probably won't watch much. Yeah, and I will, I know
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: you will. I don't care. I'd be interested to know
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: how many people like when their favorite team, if they
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: are as big of a fan of one team as
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: we are, when their favorite team isn't in it, when
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: they had a good year. I mean, the Vikings had
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: a good year fourteen and three regular season. Honestly, late
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: in the season, I was thinking, like, it probably won't happen,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: but they're not, like unrealistic to make it all the
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: way to the big Game. I'd be interested to know
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: how many diehard fans like us end up still watching
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: the playoffs and or you know, obviously the Super Bowl
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: once their team is out. I'd venture to say there's
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: probably a lot of Bills fans right now who won't
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: be too excited to watch it. You know, a lot
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: of Commanders fans won't be too excited. Horrible awful, terrible
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Lions fans, they'll probably just hate watch it and say
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: we could have beat the Chiefs because I did see
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: that on Twitter today, so uh huh ah man, we
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: should have put that in our score patrol. It's not
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: worth it. But yeah, it would be interesting to know
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: how many people still watch it because it is like
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: a social event.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: And I have plans to go watch it with other
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: people and it'll be on, but I'm not gonna sit
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: there and like be so engrossed with the game that
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not socializing with other people. And like, I think
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I told you this earlier before we started recording. But
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I might like be like, all right, cool, go team.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: They scored a good job. I'm not even really interested
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: in the halftime show. Like most other years, i'd be
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: at least like remotely interested in the halftime show, just
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: to like, Oh, okay, who's performing? Oh cool? Rihanna came out.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: She's like four months pregnant. That's interesting. I wonder what
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: people are going to say about that, But just that,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: there you go, you recapped that whole halftime show. Yeah,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I just don't care. This year, Kendrick Lamar is not
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: a draw for me.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Don't care. You could have given me a thousand guesses
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: and I probably wouldn't have gotten it right.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: It's Kendrick Lamar, and he's already been in the super
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Bowl halftime show. He was in it three years ago
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: when it was Doctor J and Snoop Dogg and they
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: had a bunch of other people on there, and he
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: had his own little moment.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: So I don't know, I don't get it. I think
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: he's just he's the one that does the song They're
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Not Like Us, and that was like the theme song
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: for anybody that played any sort of sport this year. Okay,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: and I think that's why they picked him. Interesting. Yeah,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I've never been a big halftime show guy. I know
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: there's people that that's very and they'll watch the Super
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Bowl for two things, the halftime show and the commercials.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm watching the game, so I definitely watch
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: the commercials, so I'm entertained by those. But it's not
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: like if they banned entertaining commercials, Like there's probably a
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: lot of people that would not watch the game at
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: all because well, for sure, my experience wouldn't change at
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: all if they made the halftime show actually like the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Puppy Bowl or whatever it is, Like, I wouldn't care
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: either way. Like, I don't know, maybe I'm in the minority.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Maybe most people enjoy the halftime show. I've never cared.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: It's almost annoying how much people do care. But I
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: guess I don't want to yuck people's young. It's probably
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: annoying to a lot of people that I care about
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: the Vikings so much. I don't find that annoying at all.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: In fact, it probably benefit It benefits both of us,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: so it shared the vikings. Yeah, but unfortunately the Vikings
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: are not They weren't playing this last last weekend. They
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: will not be in the Super Bowl this year. The
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Eagles beat the Commanders. What do you think? Did you
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: watch that game? I watched a good portion of it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I turned it off towards the end because it was
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: just out of control, Like the Eagles were just steamrolling
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: them at the end, and for a while it was close,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: and for a while the Commanders just kept hanging in there.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: They had that fake punt early on in the game,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: which was awesome to see.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I think they went for it on fourth down a
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: couple of times and converted, which was like, all right,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: they're hanging in there. This is great. At least they're
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: going to go down and put up a good fight.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: And then it just got so out of control. It's
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: tough to beat a team when you've got a quarterback
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: that can score on his legs and the league's leading
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: rusher that can score three touchdowns on his legs as well,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and a.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Cheat code of a play in the tush push. And
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I'm probably one of the few people that I don't
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: mind it, Like I'm not mad about the tush push.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: It's one of those like it's currently legal and if
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: you're good at it, just stop it if you don't
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: like it. So the Eagles have found the perfect formula
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: for that, and I'm here for like, if you're within
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: the rules, go for it.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: What do you think of because I'm sure you watched
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: when they were at the goal line and the Commanders
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: kept jumping.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Off sides.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: And then I don't even remember who officiated that game.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Do you remember who the lead official was for that game?
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I don't remember either, but he he said, I think
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: after they did it two or three times, he told
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: everybody live and on TV that if the Commanders did
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: it again, the officials have the authority to award points
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: to the Eagles. Because the Eagles were it was a
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: you know, first and goal, second and goal, third and
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: goal from the one, and they just kept inching the
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: ball a little bit closer to the goal line every
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: time the Commanders committed a penalty, and I think the
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: last time they did it it was actually a personal
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: foul because he said, if it happens again, it will
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: be a fifteen yard personal foul, which, like fifteen yards
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything when it's first and goal from the
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: one or third.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Personal foul is a part of the equation to eject somebody, right, So,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: but who do you eject? Like the one player that
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: jumped off sides, I think it was They kept calling
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: it specifically on Frankie Luvu, the linebacker who was the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: one like launching himself over a lah Troy Polamalu, So
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I think it would have been on him. I don't
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: know your thoughts. We haven't really talked about this. I'm
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: okay with the refs upholding because at that moment, they're
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: just upholding the game. Like I think the rule was
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: like totally like I forget the name of the rules,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: like palpably unfair or something like that, and that's what
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: they would have called to award the score if they
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: would have had to. I'm glad they didn't end up
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: getting to the point where the refs are like all
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: right by rule touchdowns, and I'm glad the points were
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: scored on the field rather than via penalty. I also
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: don't mind what the commanders were doing, Like, yeah, they
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: were getting penalized, but like they're still fighting.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: They had nothing to lose. I think, like that's kind
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: of my perspective. I think dan Quinn was just kind
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: of telling us guys, like you guys you have nothing
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to lose. They can't call a fifteen yard penalty on
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: you because it's at the half yard line. So try
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: to get a beat on Hurts his cadence and just
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: go for him. Yeah, and if you get it, great,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and if you don't, be what it is. And then like,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: even if they did end up going to the point
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: where the refs were awarding points, even if the Eagles
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: hadn't rightfully earned those points by getting the ball in
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the end zone, I still think Dan Quinn is like
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: a good coach for oh yeah, yeah, telling these guys
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: like they were probably gonna score anyways, so at least
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: we can say we tried.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: That's my perspective on it. I couldn't agree.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I think it's a really good coaching move on the
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, and just knowing the rules
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: of the game and knowing like there's nothing they can
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: do to us that they haven't already done, like just
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: keep just rack up the penalties whatever.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Obviously you don't want to see a guy rack up
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: a personal foul and then risk getting ejected, especially if
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: he's a really good defender. That's maybe the only thing
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: that you have to lose in that moment. But other
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: than that, like, I think both coaches played it really well,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: and it was just kind of a chess match, like
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: who's gonna bend, who's gonna break, who's gonna just you know,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: let this thing happen.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: And I'll add I think, yeah, I agree. I think
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: both coaches played it well. I also think the refs
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: played it well too. It wasn't like out of nowhere
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: they just said, okay, you've done it twice, touchdown Eagles.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: They just said, like everybody's been warned and we're announcing
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: it to the world. And even right before the ref
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: announced that whoever, who, what was it calling the game?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Was it Brady Brady? Yeah, it was Brady and Burkhart
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: one of them said like they must have gotten something
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: in their ear, Like I think if they keep doing this,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: eventually the refs could award a score and then like
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: a tenth of a second later you hear the ref
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: like Washington has been warned that the refs like, we
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: can award a score. So honestly, I don't have any
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: problem with any of the conduct in that little scenario.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I think to your point, everybody played it. Both teams
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: and the refs played it as close to the book
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: as you can. Obviously, the Commanders kept getting penalties, so
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: that's not by the book. But what else are you
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: gonna do? Like you said, how else do you think
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: you're gonna stop it?
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: But the penalties they were taking were kind of they
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: were almost like Bill Belichick esque, Yeah, penalties like written
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: the award. Yeah, and not just risk reward, but manipulating
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: the rules of the game, Like, Okay, I understand that
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: this is a penalty, but it's still kind of to
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: our benefit to just sit here and keep taking the penalties.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Because the penalty they were getting it wasn't awarding like
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: a first down every time. It was just the play
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: as an offside five yard penalty and you replay the down. Yeah. Yeah,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: So really they were The risk was the couple inches
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: that they were giving up, because I mean, the Eagles
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: were gonna score, and the only reason they wouldn't have
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: been is if you timed that dive perfectly and like
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: grabbed Hurts somehow with one hand or whatever and stopped
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: him from going an inch. And that, I mean, that's
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: not unthinkable, It's not unthinkable, It's happened. It's improbable but yeah,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I think we improbable.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: But it's not outside of the realm of possibility for sure.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: So that was definitely the like, the most interesting part
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Game, and I was like, what's gonna happen here? Yes,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: this could get interesting. It ended up not being interesting
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: at all because the Eagles won fifty five to twenty
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: three or whatever the final score was something like that.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I do think the Commander showed they're going to be Yes,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: they're going to be a contender here from now on.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: This wasn't I mean, this wasn't a year where they
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: igned a one year quarterback who was underperforming his whole
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: career and then suddenly started playing well. Like they did
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: the work they drafted, the guy, they drafted the other
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: guys who we don't need to talk about that. But yeah,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels proved throughout the whole season. I mean, it
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: wasn't his best game in the NFC Championship game, but
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: he proved throughout the season. He is legit and unless
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: he gets hurt, which is the case for every other
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: player in the NFL, they can be good unless they
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: get hurt. I think Jayden Daniels is here to stay,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: and the Commanders with him will be here to stay.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Dan Quinn's a good coach. He's coached another team to
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl too, so epically lost twenty eighth they
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: held a twenty eight to three lead. But yeah, I
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: think the Commanders are here to stay. I think the Eagles,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't take anything from him. They're they're good.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: They've made who Sirianni's made two Super Bowls in how
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: many years? Four years? We're sitting here like, yeah, Kevin
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: o'connelly's great, he's got two thirteen plus wins in three years. Okay,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean anything ultimately at the end of the day, Siriani,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: he's got two Super Bowls in four years. So it's frustrating.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: But the Eagles are pretty good and they kind of
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: proved me wrong. They paid the running back and it
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: definitely worked out. So I feel bad for the Commanders
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: and their fans. I hate Eagles fans and the ones
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: that know who they are. They know who they are.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: They're awful.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Well truth be told, and man, we're like, we haven't
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: really talked about the vikings at all. I didn't expect
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: us to spend so much time on this because I
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: figured we'd both be bitter about I mean Vikings not
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: being in the playoffs. But no, this is good truth
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: be told about Saquon Barkley is that the Eagles really
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: poached him from a divisional rival and the Giants were
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: fools to let him go. Giants were fools to pay
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones as much as they did, only to watch
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: him go. Like what is going on in New York
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: that they're making these types of decisions.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: It's almost like watching Saquon this season is almost a
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: fireable offense alone for all of the Giants' decision makers.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Like it's terrible, and I would have done the same
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: thing I probably said on the show, like good for
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: the Giants for not paying him, I probably mocked the
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Eagles for signing him. But like he's proving he's one
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: of the best ones of all time. He's one of
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: what seven or eight players to get two thousand rushing
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: yards something like that. I mean, maybe it won't work
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: out after the season, but he's only ever proven. Okay,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: when he's healthy, he's really good. So good for the Eagles,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I guess elite. He is so good, very good.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean just makes you like salivate as a
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Vikings fan, like, can we please get talent like that
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: because we're used to that. I mean, we've had some
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: really good backs in the past.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Peter good years, Robert Smith obviously, so yeah, I mean,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: I pointed back, we don't have his jersey on the
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: set Anymorebert Smith. It's still here, it's still here, but
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: and it's still here. We still got Dante over here.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's on screen, but it is.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: It may not make it into the Final Cup, but
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: that's all right. Let's talk about the other game quickly.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: This game I actually kind of cared about more because
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I wanted Buffalo to beat Kansas City.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, and I was.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I was pretty upset with how it ended up, and
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I felt badly for Buffalo, for Josh Allen, for just
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: everybody in Buffalo fans, players, coaches.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: It was just a tough thing.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: And it felt like officiating definitely played a role in
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: this game, which is no surprise because it's the Kansas
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: City Chiefs and I think the number one meme that's
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: been circulating and there have been so many variations, but
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: it's just the Chiefs and the refs.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the refs and the Chiefs.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: There's these AI generated memes that are you know, Patrick
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Mahomes and the refs and Andy Reid and the Rets.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Doing unspeakable things. We're a PG podcast, but yeah, I
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: just said it unspeakable, but what they were doing with
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: what and where?
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: But and there's there's just been a whole different, you know,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of various types of those things. And
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: so to say that officiating hasn't played a role in
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs games at all would be like it would
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: just be not true, because they have and you don't
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: win as many one score games as they have without
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: some help.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Same could be said about the Vikings.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: True, but the Vikings seem to still be the victims
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: of bad officiating and not the beneficiaries more. And I
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: know we're biased. I know we're a Vikings podcast, and
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: people out there are probably going to say, well, you know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: there's this example in this example, I know, but we
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: could point to some examples too, like Sam Darnold getting
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: ripped down by his face mask in the regular season
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: against the Rams. Safety Yeah, and I think we still
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: have a case.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I think for Bills fans in
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: this AFC Championship game. It's gonna they will definitely remember
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: two specific plays one the and they're both fourth down plays. Yeah,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: one being the the tush push that you could depending
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: on the angle, depending on your thoughts, you could say, yeah,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen crossed the plane and got a first down,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: or nah, no, I don't think he did. I'm kind
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: of in the camp where I'm not too sure. I
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: don't know exactly how it went down. I've seen angles
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: where it looks plain his day. I've seen angles where
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: it's like, ah, he might have made it. You had
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: a good point technologies everywhere. There's no reason not to
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: have a chip the ball. I already do. They already
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: have chips in the ball, they just don't use them
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: for those things. I feel like, and I've said it
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: before a few weeks ago, I think we are in
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: a weird transition era where there's some growing pains between
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: the transition from all human referees and a totally technological
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: game calling system. I think eventually, whether it's a year
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: from now or twenty years from now, we'll get to
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: the point where the NFL it's like creepy, how accurate
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: between human callers and technology AI whatever, how accurate those
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: calls will get. I just think as of right now,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: we're in some weird growing pains where a lot of
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: old school people are tentative to let the human control go.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: And maybe the technology is not one hundred percent perfect yet,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: but with perfect technology, we would have known for sure
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: if that ball crossed the plane and if Josh Allen
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: got a first down and.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Think think you raise a good point that yeah, I
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: think we will see some stuff. But like if that's
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: going to happen, holding has to change because I don't
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: think this justifies a penalty in the game of football,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: a rough and tumble, hard hitting game.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that has to change.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: And I mean we've said it for I think NFL
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: fans have been saying it for probably twenty thirty years.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: You could call a holding call on every every single play.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: It happens all the time. So I think they need
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: to revise the rule, not not do away with it,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: not just say well it doesn't count anymore or not,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: you know, just call it more.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Just revise it.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: What constitutes a true hold, And like I like the
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: defensive holding that happens, like if a linebacker or a corner,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: a safety grabs a guy I think, what is it,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: like five yards past the five.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Yard yeah, from the line of scrimmage, Yeah.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: And kind of interrupts his route or whatever, like, yeah,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: call that. That's that's a perfectly acceptable call. But if
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: it's a lineman who's just trying to do his job
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: and he happens to just kind of hook the other
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: guy's jersey a little bit, like, there are far more
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: egregious things that happen with those guys in their hands
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: when they're doing hand to hand combat then just simply
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: grabbing the other guys, Like come on, let's maybe.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: The answer is they make every offensive lineman just club
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: their hands before the game, Like you know, you see
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: the guy with like a broken arm, and they club
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: his hand so he can still play. But like it's
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: just he doesn't have a hand. He just has a
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: casted club around his hand, Like I don't know, an
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: offensive line can still push and jab and stuff and
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: not have access. I'm joking obviously, But there is something
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: like with defensive pass interference. If a quarterback throws a
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: ball and it's pretty blatantly defense pass interference from a
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: defender on the receiver, but also pretty blatant that the
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: ball was nowhere in sight like it wasn't the DPI
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: didn't affect the actual potential catch anyways, maybe they changed
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: the holding call to Okay, yeah there was a hole there,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: but the quarterback had already thrown the ball and like
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: the hole didn't affect the play at all. I don't know,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: maybe there's something there. I agree with you. I kind
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: of wonder.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I want to finish my thought because holding I don't
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: know that technology. I don't know that a computer AI
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: can like call that. But with a chip in the
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: ball and maybe like some sort of GPS on the field,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: you can, like, if the line the gain is here
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: and the ball is here, I should do this up
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: here so people.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Watching can see it. If the line the gain is
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: here and the ball is here and the ball doesn't
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: reach the line again, that's pretty easy on you know,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: on a computer, right, you can program a computer to
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: say this is where they need to get, this is
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: where the ball ended up. Didn't like the AAF like
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: one of the things the Spring leagues from recent years
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: have something like that, or the UFL or the XFL
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: or one of those. I don't know if it was perfect.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: But I'm pretty sure I think it was like the
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: AAF because they had like an app and you could
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: be pretty integrated with the app. Yeah there's something there.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Here's we live in twenty twenty five, like they should
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: be able to figure it out.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Here's where I think we're headed. I think we're headed
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: towards kind of this like this melting pot of the
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: human element, an AI element, and then also kind of
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the like remote element, the eye in the sky, the
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: New York the whatever. Like you're gonna have all three
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: of those elements combined helping to make these calls. And
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I think the three things combined will make the calls
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: stronger because your example of like a defensive pass interference,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: right like if the ball is uncatchable and it's just
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: kind of friendly fire, they're just kind of like, you know,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: they kind of got a little handsy and then they
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: went up to catch the ball and he didn't turn
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: or whatever. You know, New York could probably pretty easily
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: say like, yeah, it would have been DPI, but the
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: ball was uncatchable.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: No foul.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Fine, But then like for matters of like where the
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: ball is on a tush push or on.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: A goal line, situation. Did he get across the goal line?
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Did he break the plane? Again?
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Should be pretty easy, like, yes he did break the
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: plane or no he did not, kind of thing. And
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I heard somebody make the argument, well, if they put
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: chips in the balls and that's how you determine where
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the ball is, then we got to put chips in
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: people's knees and elbows to figure out when they're down.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I think you're just taking one less question mark away
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: from the human element. Yes, the refs on the field
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: and perhaps the eyes in the sky and the New
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: York's will still have to make a judgment of was
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: the knee down, was the elbow down? But at least
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: they'll know where the ball was. Did the ball across
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the plane? Did they gain a first down with the ball?
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: We can rule that out. Yes the ball did cross
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the line or no it didn't. Now we look at
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the body parts.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Did the knee or the elbow come down before the
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: ball crossed the line. That's where the human element comes in,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: whether it's remote or whether it's in person. Again, I
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: think all of those things coming together, it's going to
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: make a much stronger officiating experience for the players, for
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: the officials, for the fans, the coaches, absolutely, and if
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: you really think about it, in our lifetimes, which were,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: you know, almost mid thirties, in our lifetimes, people were
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: having these same bar top debates about instant replay for
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: whether any sport, name the televised sport. Everybody has said, like,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I think instant replay is good or terrible, depending on
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: your opinions. Technology has come so far and will go
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: so far that these arguments are going to be a
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: moot point sooner rather than later.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: To quote a movie that I quote often on this show,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: adapt or Die, that's Billy Bean's famous line from Moneyball.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Yep, if you're not a nerd, Brad Pitt played a
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: general manager in a movie that Evan only watches when
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: he's sick, which apparently you're sick all the time, because
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I've watched it a few times. It's really good. But
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: baseball to that point has adapted right like you have recently.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: You have a pitch clock that is now restricting how
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: much time a pitcher has and it resulted in some
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: questionable things that happened in this last season, and you
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: have more You still have an umpire behind the plate
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: who's calling pitches. But everybody knows that that's going to
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: change soon, because I mean, you have the ability to
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: track every pitch digitally. You can watch a.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Game in the game cast on the ESPN app and
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: you can see where every pitch was. So we have
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: that technology and I can watch watch, not actually watch,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: but like tune in and follow a game on the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: game cast and see where each pitch was. Was it high,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: was it low? Was it you know, right down the middle,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Was it inside? Was it outside? How fast was it?
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, by golly, eventually we won't need those umpires
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: behind home plate to call balls and strikes anymore. Yeah,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: because we're going to have computers and cameras doing it
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: for us.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: And if it's accurate, good Yeah. Total tangent. And I'm
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: sorry for stealing Schoolhopper's time here Twins catcher, Ryan, I
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: just looked it up and I already forgot it, Ryan Jaspers. Jeffers,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: I don't really have a good sense of the Twins
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: roster right now, So hold on, that's going to be
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: your thing. This this, this is so it almost Ryan Jeffers.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: He I think sometime in the last week or so,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: he well, last Friday, he was on the Power Chip
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Morning show played the Initials game. If you know the
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Power Trip, you know the Initials game. But he was
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: on there and talked with them for a while before
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: the game and they were kind of talking to him
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: about some of the changes, and one of the guys
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: on the Power Trip asked him, like, what do you
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: think of some of the changes they're making. He's like, Oh,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: they're awesome. They're the best thing ever, like the pitch clock.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Apparently at least him, when I don't know why other
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: players wouldn't agree. They love the pitch clock and it
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: has dramatically improved baseball. He even said something that I
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: didn't know. Did you know catchers and pitchers now they
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: have like a button system, So, like he said, he
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: has physical buttons. I've heard about this on Yeah. So
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: it's not like he's holding down a one between his legs.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: He's not doing the finger signs, you know, in his
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: crotch to signal the pitch. But I think they stopped
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: doing that because people were stealing those signs.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: And Jeffers specifically said, ever since the Astros, they they
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: implemented this this button call system where he'll press a
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: button and it I think the catcher or the pitcher
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: just has like a headset and it like says fastball, seamball,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: you know, it says like whatever they say. And he said,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: that's amazing.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I think he can also like the catcher can also
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: like inside outside.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they still communicate, but it's not like you can.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: It's harder to steal. And that's just first hand examples
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: from players how technology can improve the game and the product.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I think they've had the buttons on the knees for
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: catchers for a couple of years now. I had no idea.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not the biggest baseball fan anyways, but like, and
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I'm sure most people would say, like, oh, I didn't know,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: but sure, yeah, if it helps the game, go for it. Yeah.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: It's just a more discreet way to communicate and less
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: prone to people stealing. Yep.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: And we saw that with the what was it the
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Astros or something like that, when they were
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: being in the garbage and the trash cans and yep,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the whole ordeal. I don't think we planned on spending
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes on referees and you know, changing the game,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: But I think it was good, good, It all started.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I brought up the fourth down that ultimately was called
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: not a first down on the field.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: And you didn't even mention the second placed the second play.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: That's where I was going. Bill's remember two plays that
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: fourth down non conversion, which whoever you are, it might
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: be a conversion. The bigger play for me was that
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: last fourth down attempt, the desperation pass attempt basically ended
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: the game where Josh Allens took the took the snap,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: looked up and he had a blitzing cornerback right in
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: his face, right away, untouched, and he kind of ran
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: around and threw a desperation pass, and on TV it
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: kind of looked like, Okay, he just threw the ball away,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: but out of nowhere? Is it Dalton kincaide because Dawson
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: knocks is their other tight end I think. Anyways, I
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: don't know it. As kincaid come and dives and cradles
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: the ball, it's in his arms. He could have made
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: that catch pretty pretty easily after he made a tough
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: dive and pretty heads up play to get to where
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: he needed to be, and he couldn't haul it in,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: but that catch would have put them right on the
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: edge of fueld goal range and definitely would have kept
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: their drive alive it the game would have kept going.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: That's the one for me. That's the bigger play, oh
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: for sure. And I if it were, if it were
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: the Vikings, that's the one as a fan, I would
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: remember forever.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: My wife wasn't really paying attention. She wanted the Bills
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: to win too, just like I did. And we were
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: watching it and she was doing something else. I think
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: she had headphones and was listening to something else, and
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I turned it off and she's like, who won. I'm
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: like the Chiefs and she's like, but it was so close,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: and the Bills had the ball and I'm like yeah,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: and then they didn't convert on a fourth down and
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: then there She's like, but there was still a minute
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: and the half left in the game. I'm like, but
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: the Bills didn't have any timeouts and the Chiefs had
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: the ball. All they needed to do is kneel it
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: two times and the game's over. Yep. It's like, really,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: that's how it can end. I'm like, you can't stop
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: the clock. Ye yep, that's how it works. So yeah,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I turned it off. I didn't even watch the Chiefs
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: kneel the ball. I didn't need to see any of that.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I watched it, but yeah, I mean, you didn't miss anything.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: But all that to say, Kansas City has the opportunity
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: to win their third straight Super Bowl, and one of
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: the other two that they won I believe was also
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: against the Eagles. Correct Or was that because they had
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: one year where they missed it? Yeah? I mean they've
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: been in the Super Bowl what like three of the
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: last four years now, Yeah, because Mahomes has three wins
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: and one loss in the Super Bowl. And I think
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: this is a repeat of what like, yeah, like two
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: years ago. Yeah, not too not too long ago. Two
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: years ago, twenty twenty three. It was the Rihanna halftime show.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well it goes to show you pay more,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: way more attention to the the halftime show than the
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: actual game. Good job, Ben, But yeah, the Chiefs have
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: the chance to be the first ever three peat team,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: whereas the Eagles, I mean, Jalen Hurts has the opportunity
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: to get his first Super Bowl Sirianni their coach obviously,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley. A lot of guys have a chance to
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: win their first Super Bowl. And I don't know who
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: I want to lose more. Well, yeah, that's the first
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: tweet of our school patrol segment here. If you had
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: to choose, would you rather see Patrick Mahomes make history
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: with a three repeat and by extension, the Chiefs but
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: mostly Patrick Mahomes because he seems to be the face
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: of the friend and you Reid and Taylors with sorry
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Or would you rather see Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: get their first Super Bowl rings? This was a tweet
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: today from Sports Center. Which way to you lean? You
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: have to pick one. You don't even have to really
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: care or us to fy it, just pick one.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Which way do you lean? I don't really care too much.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: There's good people and players on each team. I feel
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: like I want Eagles fans to lose another Super Bowl
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: more than I want anybody to win it. So I
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: guess I'm rooting for the Chiefs. I think I'm on
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: the other side of this. I know the Eagles fans
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: don't have a very good reputation. What I know that
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I understand that, and I know that they don't treat
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Vikings fans very well when other fans have you seen
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: videos from this Commanders game just yes, yesterday, I have
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: seen it. I know I understand the players on the field.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I think are better men than the fans that fill
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: their stadiums. I think those players deserve a championship. I
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: like Jalen Hurts. I think he's a good guy. I
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: think he's a good quarterback. We've already spent a little
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: bit of time talking about Saquon Barkley. Man.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: What a transition he's made from the dumpster of a
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: franchise that he was a part of to now on
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: the cusp of winning a Super Bowl just a year later.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, and you've got to admire that. You've got
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: to admire his hard work. I don't want to see
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: a three pet I don't want the Chiefs to become
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: this insufferable franchise to say we were the only team
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: to ever win three in a row.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: They're already insufferable. They are. They both both franchises really are.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: To be fair, the Chiefs are the definition of you
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: either die the hero or live long enough to see
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: yourself become the villain. Because just a few years ago,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs were the Lions. You know, they were the
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: team that the whole country was like, Yeah, I want
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: to see the Chiefs do it. They've never won it,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: And here we are four or five years later and
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: it's like for the Chiefs again.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I was rooting for him. Yeah back then I was
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: on that side. But yeah, they're definitely now the villain
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: in my eyes, and the Taylor Swift storylines haven't helped.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: The Boondla save.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Commercials haven't helped. Kids won't stop saying that is the
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: is Aiden Hutchins. The bundle. The bundle roots my middle daughter.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: She went for like a week bi like, she just
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: kept saying it. She's also the only one that really
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: watches football with me, so I guess I can can't
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: complain too much.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: But well, another tweet that I found today, and this
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: one isn't anything new, it's just something that I came
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: across today was the Kirk Cousins curse. So no team
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: has ever lost to Kirk Cousins in the regular season
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: and then gone on to win the Super Bowl, which
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: applies to the Eagles.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: I think it was the Eagles that changed that stat
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago because it was no team
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: had ever lost to Kirk Cousins and made the super Bowl.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: But then what twenty twenty two, Yeah, because the Vikings
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: in Week two of that year lost with Kirk Cousins,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: lost to the Eagles on a short week, and then
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: the Eagles went on to go to the super Bowl.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: So now it's changed to what you just said. I
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: think you had it slightly backwards. The Vikings beat the
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Eagles in Week two of that season, right, because no
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: team has ever lost to Kirk Cousins and won the
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. That's the stat. Maybe I have it totally wrong,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: You're right, I'm wrong, I'm dumb, you're smart. I don't
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: remember twenty twenty two. That was a while ago for
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I think so the Vikings did go to Philly and
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: a short week and Week two and lost, But I
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: think that's I'm misremembering a couple of things. But either way,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: the official stat is no team has ever lost to
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins and then that year gone on to win
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: win Super Bowl.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: And I think that applied to didn't apply to the
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Buck a few years ago, the Tom Brady Bucks.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it was. It could have been the time,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: because I think the Vikings beat the Tom Brady Bucks, right,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: I could be remembering that wrong too. Somebody that just
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: googled it is thinking we're gigantic idiots right now, we
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: have computers in front of us.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: We could totally look it up, but we're authentic here
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: and we don't make stuff up anyways.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: I think the status still legit. You can fact checked
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: us for sure, but that would be kind of funny
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: if the Eagles lost, and I think it's definitely a
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: realistic possibility. I think either team honestly could win this game.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: The Chiefs have proven that they're not like blowout worthy
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: offense or defense this year. Like they've played in one
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: score games all season. They barely won some of their
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: regular season games. Yeah, they were really similar to the
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Vikings in a lot of ways this year. Yeah, it's
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: just I mean, credit to them, they kept winning. Yeah,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: I looked it up and we've already wasted too much
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: time on it. But that stat used to be no
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: team has ever lost to Kirk Cousins and made the
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. But it was last year's forty nine ers
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: who changed that stick there. It is because the Vikings
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: beat the Niners, and then the Niners still went on
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: to attend the Super Bowl, which changed that stat from
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: win the or go to the super Bowl to win
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl because obviously lost last year. But again,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: we just spent way too much time. But yeah, it's
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: a funny stat. I mean, it's one that I'll always
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: kind of remember a little bit too, just like I'll
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: always remember for a while that koc was like twenty
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: one to oher when his team wins the turnover battle
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, and that fell apart this year because
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: we lost the turnover battle or won the turnover won
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: the turnover battle, but lost the game. Yep.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all those like kind of key little stats went
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: out the door.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: I will say, though, twenty twenty four was not the
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: year for Kirk Cousins unless you're his bank account, which
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: I guess that's that's really all that matters. Like super
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Bowls are fun, but like so is two hundred million
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: dollars or whatever you signed for so to sit on
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: the bench and watch Michael Pennox take over at the
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: end of the season. So I mean, maybe this is
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: also the year that that stat totally dies. It half
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: died last year. Maybe maybe the Eagles pull it out
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: and they killed that stat forever. Yeah, Well, here's what
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I think we do to finish things out. We had
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: another segment, but I think we saved that. I'm on
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: board with that. I think I think we save that.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: I don't think we even reveal what that was. Maybe
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: we can reveal that that segment may end up becoming
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: like a series nine to ten episodes like that might
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: shape our off season. I wouldn't be opposed to that
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: at all, But I think we go out on a
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: good note. Yeah, you shared with me, and we'll pull
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: this up. I'm not sure how well this will translate
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: on like stuff, but we'll also put the link out
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: there too. I'm not going to play the audio because
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: it would kind of wreck what we're doing. But you
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: sent me this TikTok today and at first it took
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: me a second to really kind of figure out what
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: was going on. And if you hadn't read the caption,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: I would have been like, what what does this have
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: to do with anything? But JJ McCarthy and some other
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: dude go to this pizza shop and they're kind of
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: joking with the guy like, hey, make us a thousand pizza,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: and the guys like, I don't have enough food to
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: make that much, but I'll make you what I can,
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: and so that he makes like thirteen pizzas or something
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: and says, I can it be about like two hundred
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: dollars worth of pizza, but I can cut you a
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: deal one hundred and fifty dollars worth of pizza. JJ
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: McCarthy hands the dude this big wat of cash that
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: looked like way more than two hundred dollars worth, and
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: you know, DAPs the guy up. He's like, man, we
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: really appreciate what you do. And then it cuts to
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: JJ and this other guy whoever owns the channel, I'm guessing,
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: going out there and handing out these pizzas to random
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: people I'm assuming maybe some needy people.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, on the streets, and it was just a it
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: was a really cool thing, heartwarming thing. I'm assuming it
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: took place in the Minneapolis area, so we can we.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Can shout out the guy who whose account it was.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: So I've seen this guy's video. The other guy that
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: wasn't JJ McCarthy, I've seen him on TikTok quite a bit.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: His tag is why did I just blank on? That
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: is it's all one where Josh lil j so j
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: O s h l I l j on TikTok and
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: probably every other platform too. I think most of his
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: videos is he goes to these like hometown like mom
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: and pop restaurants and you know, or breweries or wherever
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: and gets like a plate of food, you know, one
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: order of food, whether it's a pizza or mac and
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: cheese or wings or something, and when whoever it is
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: is handing you know, the waiter or whatever is handing
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: it to him, he's always like, oh, thanks, how much
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: is that? And it's usually like ten, fifteen, twenty bucks whatever,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: And then he's like, okay, can I get a thousand
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: of them? Or can I get five hundred of them?
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: And the person's always like, well, I mean, I guess,
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: and he's like no, no, seriously, like as many as
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: you can make. I want that many pizzas or burgers
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: or whatever he's getting, and they're always like okay, give
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: me some time and then yeah, and then you know,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: the next thing that he shows in his videos is
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: like okay, thanks, he's getting the food and he's paying
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: for it, and he's like, yeah, I'm gonna go go
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: out and give these to the hungry, the homeless, the needy, whatever.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: And most of the time whoever owns the restaurant. It's like, oh,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: you're you're giving these to hungry people, like, oh, no,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: I got I got the bill, you don't owe me anything,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: or they'll give him a big discount or whatever. And
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: it's always and it's not every time, but he's always like, oh,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: that's awesome, man, that's so cool. And then the video
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: ends with him going around and giving pizzas or burgers
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: or whatever. He had got two people on the street,
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: people who were homeless. And today was the first time
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: I follow on him. I've seen his videos pop up
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: on my for you page a few times. I didn't
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: realize he's in the Minneapolis area until today. And yeah,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: like you said this one he got a pizza. He said, Okay,
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: can I get five hundred of him? And then he
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: was like I can't do that, but I can probably
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: do like fifty, and they do the whole exchange. He's
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: about to pay his deal of one hundred and fifty
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: bucks and then I know where JJ walks up. He's
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: like no, no, no to the pizza owners, like you're
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: a good dude, you got a great story. I wish
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: I knew this. The pizza shop for the four people
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: that are listening, and JJ used, like you said, hands him.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: He doesn't say, I'm JJ McCarthy and I'm handing you
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: a thousand dollars, but he just walks up and just
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: hands him a bunch of money and says, you know,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: pizza owner, you're a good dude. Your story's great, And
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: then the video ends with JJ mc carthy and the
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: Josh Little j guy walked around given free pieces away,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: which is super cool.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: It is super cool and super cool that JJ number
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: one paid for it and offered more than whatever the
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: original asking price was. But then two just went out
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: with this guy and like helped pass him out. Like
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: it's one thing to just fork over a lot of
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: cash and then walk away, it's another thing to go
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: out and actually like interact with people and just be
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: a good person. So there's definitely like the most heartwarming
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: thing that came out from Vikings World today.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: And I didn't know all of what.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: You just said about this Josh Little Jay guy didn't
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: really have any background. I've only ever watched the one
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: video you sent me today of him with JJ McCarthy
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: passing out pizza.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: But yeah, he seems like a cool dude. Go down
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: the rabbit hole. Watch that dude's videos. It's all it
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: makes you feel good and it it's just all feel
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: good stuff. He helps people and he feeds people, and
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: you know he pays for it. And yes, he's got
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: like eight million followers on TikTok. Yeah, he's probably making
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: a bunch of money. But he's also unless it's like
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: all evil behind the scenes, which I don't think it is,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: he's helping people and putting some good out there. Also
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: in that video, JJ, it's not like he walks up
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: wearing his number nine jersey. It's not like he walks
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: up saying, hey, I'm JJ McCarthy. Honestly, he walks up
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: wearing a two big sweatshirt and a beanie that's covering
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: most of his space. Like you could watch that whole
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: video like I did the first time and not really realize, like, oh,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: why is JJ McCarthy tagged in this? Like he just
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: kind of shows up out of nowhere and does his
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: part to help out too. So it's really cool. And
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: JJ like as a part of his rehab and stuff,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: he's kind of lost some weight, so he has a
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: little bit of a different facade than he did when
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: he was first drafted, and hopefully hopefully he can recover
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: that a little bit, and if he's fully healthy, he's
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: got some time with dedication to put that weight back
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: on and still be athletic for sure. Yeah.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Anyways, a nice way to round out our school patrol segments.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: And there's some good stuff out there on the Internet.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: And obviously there's also a super Bowl coming up that
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: could be fine, could be kind of boring. We'll just
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: kind of have to wait and see in the next
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks.
• 1:01:14
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• 1:01:19
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• 1:01:23
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• 1:01:25
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• 1:01:26
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• 1:01:29
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:41
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• 1:01:44
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• 1:01:44
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• 1:01:49
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• 1:01:51
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• 1:01:56
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• 1:01:57
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• 1:01:59
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:10
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• 1:02:42
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• 1:02:47
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• 1:02:50
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• 1:02:52
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• 1:02:55
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• 1:02:57
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• 1:02:59
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• 1:03:02
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• 1:03:12
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• 1:03:14
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• 1:03:20
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• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: what do you think of this beer that you brought
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: for us? It was really good. It was a nice,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: easy drinker, Like I said, six point two percent, so
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: after two of them, not really feeling too awful. You know,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling pretty good and I'll wake up tomorrow feeling
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: perfectly fine. Flavor was great. I thoroughly enjoyed every sip
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: of this beer, and I will I will get it again.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Are you about a dessert cake stupid sour next week?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Because I'm pretty sure that's what I'm gonna get.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna directly compare it to this, and if it's
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: not better than this and I don't want.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: It, that's fair. That's fair, Big Grove. This is a
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: really good beer. I liked it. I'm not trying to
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: detract from your beer at all. I just I keep
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: seeing stuff at the store and I'm like, we should
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: try that.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. All I'm interested in the name Big Grove. Was
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: this named after that musical? Because I don't know, Into
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: the Woods could be like a scavenging little tidbit because
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: it's raspberries and blackberries or whatever. But yeah, I don't know.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: It's an interesting name. The cam looks really cool. I
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: like it.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely stands out, like on the shelf and
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: you're looking at beers and you're like, oh, that one
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: looks interesting. So I've seen this before and I've thought
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: about getting it for us and just haven't pulled the
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: trigger yet.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: You did you beat me to it? Yeah?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: I would share similar sentiments. Very good, fruity, a little
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: bit sour, but not like so sour that I would
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: never reach for it again.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: It's pretty good. As a Minnesota wildfan, like, I would
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: directly like display this can up with other Minnesota Wild memorabilia.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: We're obviously a Vikings podcast, but if there was some
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: like purple and gold equivalent to this design, it would
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: fit perfectly on our set. So for sure, is somebody
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: a Minnesota Wild fan? Is that why they design this can?
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Or is it just happy happy luck? I don't know.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: I really like the spear a lot because sour, I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: guess kettle sour. So yeah, well, uh, do we have
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: anything else? I mean, we've got like probably a full
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: year's worth of content that we could have talked about
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: and didn't. I don't know about a year, but definitely
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: an off season probably, and keep your eyes peeled. We
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: might be talking about another addition of a skull hot
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: beer in the not too distant future. It is in
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: the works, yeah, coming up, probably sooner than then. We
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: can county. It's coming thanks to a friend of the show, Forest,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's coming, like Will the Thrill, Will the Thrill?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: He was coming for a minute there and then he
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: got hurt and then so anyways, all right, man, this
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: was a fun episode. He's gonna get back to it
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: next he will. It'll be a long time before he
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: gets a haircut, So until next time School's Cool.
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