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Jeremy Aitken · Punk, Love, & Compassion

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Welcome
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to
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Punk
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Love
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and
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Compassion.
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Tonight
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I
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have
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Jeremy
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joining
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me.
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Jeremy
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is
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from
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Birmingham,
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Alabama.
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He
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is
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a
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very
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talented
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man
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who
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wears.
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Wears
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many
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hats.
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He
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is
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a
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musician.
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He
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is
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the
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band
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Spirit
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Guardian.
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He's
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played
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in
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many
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other
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bands.
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Photographer,
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He's
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a
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dad,
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great
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all
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around
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dude.
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I
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am
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very
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thankful
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that
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he
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has
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agreed
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to
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come
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on
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and
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chat
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with
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me
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tonight
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or
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today,
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whatever
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it
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is.
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Jeremy,
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did
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I.
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Did
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I
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miss
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anything
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you
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would
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like
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to
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add?
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The
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only
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other
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thing
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is
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the
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Iron
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City
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Sludge
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is
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you
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know
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what
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I
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run
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and
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book
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my
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shows
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under
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and
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so
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all
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my
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photos
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and
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all
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my
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show
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running
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and
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I
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also
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run
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sound
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for
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those
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shows
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too.
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So
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that's
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one
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of
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the
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hats
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that.
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That's
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one
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of
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the
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many
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hats.
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And
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you
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do
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reviews
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under
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that?
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Yeah,
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as
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well.
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So
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you
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do
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like
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show
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reviews
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and
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other
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stuff?
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Yes,
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sorry,
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I
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forgot
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that.
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All
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good?
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Yeah.
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Cool.
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So
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with
1:06
that,
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for
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those
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who
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view,
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I
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know
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this
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is
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a
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new
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podcast.
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Couple
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things
1:11
get
1:11
out
1:11
of
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the
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way.
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First
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thing,
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main
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thing
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is
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I
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am
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not
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a
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professional.
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I
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don't
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know
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what
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I'm
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doing.
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I
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am
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embracing
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the
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punk
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rock
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DIY
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ethos
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and
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figuring
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this
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out
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as
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I
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go
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along.
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So
1:26
there
1:26
are
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going
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to
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be
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things
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that
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aren't
1:27
perfect
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and
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that's
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okay
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because
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we
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are
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not
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perfect
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creatures.
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Hopefully
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they
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will
1:32
get
1:32
better
1:32
as
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this
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goes
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on.
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The
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main
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thing
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I'm
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struggling
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with
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and
1:36
learning
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right
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now
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is
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how
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to
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edit
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correctly.
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So
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please,
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as
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you're
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listening
1:40
to
1:40
this,
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don't
1:41
be
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like,
1:41
wow,
1:41
this
1:41
dude
1:41
sucks
1:42
at
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and
1:43
well,
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I
1:43
mean
1:43
you
1:43
can,
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but
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I
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do.
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It's
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true.
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Like
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it's
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not
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going
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to
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hurt
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my
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feelings
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because
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I
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do.
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It
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sucks.
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I'm
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not
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good
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at
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it.
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I'll
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get
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better
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eventually.
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So
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please
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just
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stick
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with
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us.
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Yeah.
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And
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like
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I
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said,
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I'm
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not
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a
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professional.
1:55
I'm
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not
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a
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professional
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podcaster,
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I'm
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not
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a
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professional
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journalist.
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This
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was
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just
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an
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idea
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I
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had
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that
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I
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didn't
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see
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out
2:02
there.
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Talked
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to
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a
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couple
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people
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about
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this
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idea
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and
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through
2:08
thoughts
2:08
and
2:09
plans
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just
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decided
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to
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just
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go
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ahead
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and
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do
2:11
it
2:11
and
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figure
2:12
it
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out
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as
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it
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goes
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along.
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Because
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I
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think
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that
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people
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being
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honest
2:17
about
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their
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struggles
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and
2:20
their
2:20
hopes,
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especially
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within
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the
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greater
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punk
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rock
2:23
community,
2:24
is
2:24
something
2:24
that
2:24
is
2:24
needed.
2:25
But
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hopefully
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you
2:26
stick
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with
2:27
us
2:27
and
2:27
get
2:27
something
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out
2:28
of
2:28
this.
2:28
So
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with
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that,
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Jeremy,
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thank
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you
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again
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for
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coming
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on.
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First.
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First
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question
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for
2:35
you.
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One
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of
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the
2:36
things
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that
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really
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interests
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me
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about
2:38
people
2:38
is.
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And
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I
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realize
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I
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just
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said
2:40
first
2:40
question.
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Now
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I'm
2:41
going
2:41
into
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an
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explanation
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of
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the
2:42
question.
2:43
Like
2:43
I
2:43
said,
2:43
not
2:44
professional.
2:45
One
2:45
thing
2:45
that
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really
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interests
2:46
Me
2:46
about
2:47
people
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is
2:49
like
2:50
their
2:50
entry
2:51
point,
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like
2:52
at
2:52
what
2:52
point
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in
2:53
time?
2:54
And
2:54
this
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is
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going
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to
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be
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a
2:55
two
2:55
part
2:55
question,
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but
2:58
you
2:58
know,
2:58
at
2:59
what
2:59
point
2:59
in
2:59
time
3:00
did
3:00
one,
3:01
they
3:01
become
3:02
aware
3:03
that
3:03
that
3:03
sort
3:04
of
3:04
punk
3:04
was
3:04
a
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thing
3:05
and
3:06
two,
3:07
at
3:07
what
3:07
point
3:07
in
3:08
time
3:08
they
3:08
decide,
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hey,
3:09
like,
3:10
this
3:10
is
3:10
what
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I
3:11
am.
3:12
And
3:13
my
3:13
punk
3:13
umbrella
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is
3:14
very
3:15
large
3:15
and
3:15
very
3:16
encompassing.
3:17
So
3:17
I
3:17
don't
3:18
care
3:18
really
3:18
how
3:19
you
3:20
like
3:20
identify.
3:21
If
3:21
you're
3:21
like,
3:21
oh,
3:21
I'm,
3:22
you
3:22
know,
3:22
hardcore
3:23
kid
3:23
or
3:23
I'm
3:23
a.
3:24
We
3:24
all
3:24
sort
3:24
of
3:24
fall
3:24
under
3:25
this
3:25
greater,
3:26
in
3:27
my
3:27
opinion.
3:27
You
3:28
can
3:28
debate
3:28
me,
3:29
whatever
3:29
you're.
3:29
I
3:30
won't
3:30
agree
3:30
with
3:30
you.
3:32
But
3:32
this
3:32
greater
3:33
punk
3:33
rock
3:33
umbrella
3:34
and
3:35
the
3:35
community
3:35
that
3:36
that
3:36
has
3:36
supplied
3:37
for
3:37
many
3:37
of
3:38
us.
3:38
Now
3:39
that
3:39
I'm
3:39
done
3:39
describing
3:39
my
3:40
question
3:41
number
3:41
one,
3:41
do
3:42
you
3:42
remember
3:43
the
3:43
first
3:45
punk
3:45
song
3:45
you've
3:46
ever
3:46
heard?
3:46
Oh
3:47
my
3:47
goodness.
3:48
Well,
3:48
first
3:48
of
3:48
all,
3:48
thanks
3:49
for
3:49
having
3:49
me.
3:50
I
3:50
hope
3:50
that,
3:51
you
3:51
know,
3:51
this
3:52
is
3:52
interesting
3:52
for,
3:52
for
3:53
folks.
3:53
I
3:53
always
3:54
worry
3:54
about
3:54
that.
3:55
But
3:55
yeah,
3:55
when
3:55
it
3:56
comes
3:56
to
3:56
music,
3:57
my
3:58
journey
3:59
to
3:59
punk
3:59
is
3:59
very
3:59
unusual,
4:00
I
4:00
think
4:02
because
4:02
I
4:02
grew
4:02
up
4:02
in
4:03
a
4:03
household
4:03
where
4:04
my
4:04
dad
4:05
was
4:05
a
4:05
huge
4:05
Chicago
4:06
fan.
4:06
So
4:07
I
4:07
grew
4:07
up
4:07
here
4:07
in
4:07
a
4:07
lot
4:07
of
4:08
like
4:08
classic
4:09
rock
4:09
and
4:09
big
4:09
horns
4:10
and
4:10
stuff.
4:12
I,
4:12
I
4:12
would
4:13
say
4:13
probably,
4:14
you
4:14
know,
4:14
being.
4:15
Being
4:15
born
4:16
in
4:16
89,
4:17
coming
4:17
of
4:18
age
4:18
in
4:18
the
4:19
late
4:19
90s,
4:20
early
4:20
2000s,
4:21
definitely
4:21
would
4:21
have
4:21
been,
4:22
you
4:22
know,
4:23
hearing
4:23
some
4:23
like
4:23
pop
4:23
punk
4:24
on
4:24
the
4:24
radio
4:24
would
4:24
have
4:24
been
4:25
like
4:25
my
4:25
very
4:25
first
4:25
thing.
4:26
But
4:26
as
4:27
far
4:27
as
4:27
things
4:27
that
4:28
I
4:28
really
4:28
kind
4:29
of
4:29
identified
4:30
with
4:30
that
4:31
I
4:31
think
4:31
are
4:31
within
4:32
the
4:32
punk
4:33
umbrella,
4:33
although
4:33
there's
4:34
different
4:34
elements
4:35
is
4:36
my
4:36
older
4:36
brother
4:36
picked
4:37
up
4:37
Rage
4:38
against
4:38
the
4:38
Machine's
4:39
battle
4:39
for
4:39
Los
4:39
Angeles
4:40
record.
4:41
And
4:42
that
4:42
was
4:42
the
4:43
first
4:43
time
4:43
I
4:43
think
4:43
I
4:43
really
4:44
understood
4:44
some
4:45
of
4:45
the
4:45
attitude
4:46
and
4:46
some
4:46
of
4:46
the
4:47
higher
4:48
thoughts
4:49
behind
4:49
what
4:50
punk
4:50
could
4:50
be.
4:51
So
4:51
that
4:52
was
4:52
kind
4:52
of
4:52
my
4:52
first
4:52
introduction
4:53
into
4:54
that
4:54
world,
4:55
so
4:55
to
4:55
speak.
4:56
I
4:56
don't
4:56
remember
4:56
what
4:56
song
4:57
it
4:57
was
4:57
necessarily
4:58
because
4:58
it
4:59
was
4:59
a
4:59
whole
4:59
album.
4:59
But
5:00
you
5:00
know,
5:00
songs
5:01
like
5:01
Gorilla
5:01
Radio
5:03
and
5:04
Sleep
5:05
now
5:05
on
5:05
the
5:05
Fire
5:05
are
5:06
a
5:06
couple
5:06
that
5:06
like
5:07
still
5:07
to
5:08
this
5:08
day
5:08
still
5:09
just
5:10
are
5:10
really
5:11
important
5:12
to
5:12
me
5:12
and
5:12
definitely
5:13
were
5:13
integral
5:13
on
5:14
me
5:14
finding
5:14
heavier
5:15
music
5:15
in
5:15
general.
5:17
Yeah,
5:17
I
5:18
consider
5:18
that
5:18
the
5:18
punk
5:18
rock
5:19
umbrella,
5:19
like
5:19
all
5:19
those
5:20
dudes,
5:20
had
5:20
roots
5:21
in
5:21
punk
5:21
rock,
5:22
you
5:22
know,
5:22
Like
5:22
Zach
5:22
Zillaro's
5:23
first
5:23
band
5:24
was
5:24
Inside
5:25
out
5:25
on
5:25
Revelation
5:26
Records.
5:27
If
5:27
you
5:27
haven't
5:28
heard
5:28
them,
5:29
I
5:29
highly
5:30
recommend
5:30
checking
5:30
out
5:30
Inside
5:31
Out.
5:31
Just
5:32
great
5:32
stuff.
5:33
But
5:34
yeah,
5:34
definitely,
5:34
definitely
5:35
under.
5:35
They
5:36
fall
5:36
under
5:36
the.
5:37
The
5:37
umbrella.
5:38
Cool.
5:39
So,
5:39
so
5:40
then
5:40
at
5:40
what
5:40
point
5:41
in
5:41
time,
5:42
like
5:42
from
5:43
becoming
5:44
aware
5:44
of
5:45
that,
5:45
were
5:46
you
5:46
like,
5:46
okay,
5:47
cool,
5:47
this
5:48
Is
5:48
like,
5:49
this
5:49
is
5:49
my
5:49
jam.
5:50
I
5:50
want
5:50
to
5:50
become
5:51
part
5:51
of
5:51
this
5:52
greater
5:53
thing
5:53
that
5:53
I
5:54
don't
5:54
fully
5:54
understand
5:55
yet,
5:55
but
5:55
somehow
5:56
it's
5:56
gotten
5:56
into
5:56
my
5:57
blood.
5:57
Yeah,
5:58
really,
5:59
that's
5:59
tough
5:59
to
5:59
think
6:00
about
6:00
because
6:00
that
6:01
record
6:01
was
6:01
late
6:01
90s,
6:02
so
6:02
I
6:03
was
6:03
pretty
6:03
young
6:03
when
6:03
it.
6:04
When
6:04
I
6:04
first
6:04
heard
6:04
it.
6:04
But
6:04
I
6:05
want
6:05
to
6:05
say
6:06
I
6:06
didn't
6:06
hear
6:06
it
6:06
until
6:07
early.
6:07
Probably
6:08
2001
6:08
or
6:09
early
6:10
2000.
6:10
Probably
6:10
is
6:11
when
6:11
I
6:11
first
6:11
heard
6:11
it.
6:12
But
6:13
really
6:13
when
6:13
I
6:14
started
6:14
diving
6:14
more
6:14
into
6:15
that
6:15
is
6:15
once
6:16
I
6:16
started
6:16
picking
6:16
up
6:16
guitar,
6:17
which
6:17
I
6:18
started
6:18
playing
6:18
guitar
6:18
around
6:19
the
6:19
time
6:19
I
6:19
was
6:19
11,
6:19
going
6:20
on
6:20
12.
6:22
And
6:22
initially
6:23
it
6:23
started
6:23
with
6:23
kind
6:23
of
6:24
acoustic
6:24
stuff,
6:24
because
6:25
that's
6:25
what
6:25
I
6:25
got
6:25
was
6:25
initially
6:26
an
6:26
acoustic.
6:27
And
6:28
then
6:28
after
6:28
about
6:28
two
6:28
years
6:28
of
6:29
playing,
6:30
you
6:30
know,
6:31
I
6:31
just
6:31
started
6:31
finding
6:32
more
6:32
challenging
6:33
things
6:33
to
6:33
play
6:34
outside
6:34
of
6:34
acoustic
6:34
things.
6:35
Classic
6:36
rock,
6:36
punk
6:36
stuff.
6:37
I
6:38
have
6:38
a
6:38
huge.
6:39
I
6:39
was
6:39
obsessed
6:40
with
6:41
early
6:41
ACDC
6:42
when
6:42
I
6:42
was
6:43
younger
6:44
and
6:44
whether.
6:45
Whether
6:45
people
6:45
want
6:46
to
6:46
believe
6:46
it
6:46
or
6:46
not,
6:46
a
6:46
lot
6:47
of
6:47
that
6:47
early
6:47
ACDC
6:48
definitely
6:48
has
6:48
some
6:48
of
6:49
that
6:49
punk
6:49
spirit
6:49
about
6:50
it.
6:50
The
6:50
snottiness,
6:51
the.
6:51
The
6:52
imagery,
6:52
the
6:53
using
6:53
things
6:54
that
6:54
were
6:55
kind
6:55
of
6:55
counterculture
6:56
at
6:56
the
6:56
time.
6:57
So
6:57
that
6:57
was
6:58
an
6:58
influence
6:58
for
6:58
me
6:58
too.
6:59
You
7:00
know,
7:00
it's
7:00
really
7:00
tough
7:00
because,
7:00
like,
7:01
I
7:01
don't
7:01
really
7:01
know.
7:01
I
7:02
don't
7:02
really
7:02
know
7:03
what
7:03
I
7:03
am.
7:03
And
7:04
I
7:04
am.
7:04
At
7:04
this
7:04
point,
7:05
I'm
7:05
still
7:05
figuring
7:06
it
7:06
out
7:06
every
7:06
day,
7:07
trying
7:07
to
7:08
figure
7:08
out
7:08
who
7:08
I
7:08
am
7:08
and.
7:10
And
7:10
what
7:10
I.
7:10
What
7:11
I
7:11
do.
7:11
But,
7:11
yeah,
7:12
once
7:12
I
7:12
started
7:12
playing
7:13
guitar,
7:14
it
7:14
was
7:14
over,
7:14
man.
7:15
It
7:15
was
7:15
just
7:16
obsessed
7:17
with
7:17
music.
7:18
Just
7:18
absorbing
7:19
anything
7:19
I
7:20
could
7:20
and
7:21
learning
7:21
everything
7:21
I
7:22
could.
7:23
And,
7:23
you
7:23
know,
7:24
once
7:24
again,
7:24
being
7:24
a
7:25
child
7:25
of
7:25
the
7:25
90s,
7:26
one
7:26
of
7:26
the
7:26
real
7:27
early
7:28
punk
7:29
band
7:29
memories
7:29
I
7:30
had,
7:30
of
7:30
course,
7:30
is
7:30
going
7:30
to
7:30
be
7:31
Green
7:31
Day,
7:31
because
7:31
that
7:31
was
7:32
everywhere.
7:33
So,
7:34
you
7:34
know,
7:34
learning
7:35
songs
7:35
off
7:35
of
7:36
Dookie
7:37
definitely
7:38
kind
7:38
of
7:38
helps
7:39
sharpen
7:40
up
7:40
some
7:40
of
7:40
those
7:40
chops,
7:41
so
7:41
to
7:41
speak.
7:42
And
7:43
then
7:43
I
7:43
got
7:43
into.
7:44
I
7:44
also
7:44
got
7:44
into
7:44
metal
7:45
and
7:45
all
7:45
kinds
7:46
of
7:46
different
7:46
stuff.
7:46
But,
7:47
yeah,
7:47
probably
7:48
when
7:48
I
7:48
started
7:48
playing
7:48
guitar,
7:49
honestly,
7:49
that's
7:49
really
7:50
when
7:50
I
7:50
just
7:50
was
7:50
like,
7:51
yeah,
7:51
this
7:51
is.
7:52
This
7:52
is
7:52
it.
7:53
This
7:53
is.
7:53
This
7:53
is
7:53
who
7:54
I
7:54
am.
7:54
Started
7:55
dressing
7:55
differently.
7:56
I
7:56
went
7:56
to
7:56
a
7:56
tiny
7:57
school
7:58
where,
7:58
you
7:58
know,
7:58
there
7:59
was.
7:59
There
7:59
was
7:59
300
8:00
folks.
8:00
It
8:00
was
8:00
really
8:01
rural,
8:01
very
8:02
kind
8:02
of
8:02
redneck
8:05
population.
8:06
I
8:06
very
8:07
much
8:07
am
8:07
not
8:07
that.
8:08
So
8:08
I
8:08
was
8:09
one
8:09
of
8:09
the
8:09
odd
8:09
men
8:10
out
8:10
in
8:10
that
8:11
scenario.
8:12
And
8:13
once
8:14
I
8:14
found
8:14
the
8:14
music
8:14
and
8:15
kind
8:15
of
8:15
found
8:15
the
8:16
artist,
8:16
that
8:16
truly
8:16
resonated
8:17
with
8:17
me.
8:19
I
8:19
just
8:20
really
8:20
didn't
8:20
care
8:20
about
8:21
what
8:21
other
8:21
people
8:21
thought.
8:22
And,
8:22
you
8:22
know,
8:23
I
8:23
guess
8:23
you
8:23
could
8:23
say
8:23
that's
8:23
a
8:24
little
8:24
A
8:24
little
8:24
punk,
8:24
but
8:25
I
8:25
really
8:25
didn't
8:25
care
8:25
what
8:26
others
8:26
thought.
8:26
I
8:26
got
8:27
in
8:27
trouble
8:27
at
8:27
school
8:27
because
8:28
I
8:28
was
8:28
wearing.
8:28
At
8:29
the
8:29
time,
8:29
I
8:29
was
8:29
straight
8:29
edged.
8:30
I
8:30
was
8:30
wearing
8:30
Straight
8:31
edge
8:31
gloves.
8:32
And
8:32
I
8:32
got
8:32
in
8:32
trouble
8:32
because
8:33
they
8:33
thought
8:33
it
8:33
was
8:33
some
8:33
sort
8:34
of
8:34
gang
8:34
crap.
8:34
I'm
8:35
like,
8:35
no,
8:35
I
8:35
just
8:35
don't.
8:36
I
8:36
don't
8:37
do
8:37
drugs
8:37
and
8:37
I
8:38
don't
8:38
drink.
8:38
Like
8:39
all
8:39
of
8:39
these
8:39
other
8:40
people
8:40
are
8:41
here
8:41
and
8:41
go
8:42
to
8:42
church
8:42
every
8:42
Sunday
8:43
and
8:43
then
8:43
treat
8:43
me
8:44
like
8:44
shit
8:44
all
8:44
the
8:44
time.
8:45
Like,
8:45
I'm
8:45
gonna
8:45
still
8:46
try
8:46
to
8:46
be
8:46
a
8:46
good
8:46
person
8:47
even
8:47
though
8:48
I'm
8:48
getting
8:48
treated
8:48
crappy
8:49
by
8:49
these
8:49
people
8:49
and
8:50
just
8:50
be
8:50
myself
8:50
and,
8:51
and
8:52
really
8:52
dive
8:52
and
8:52
live
8:53
in
8:53
that
8:53
music.
8:53
And
8:54
I
8:54
knew
8:54
once
8:55
I
8:55
found
8:55
music,
8:55
like
8:56
that's.
8:56
That's
8:56
who
8:56
I
8:57
am
8:57
at
8:57
my
8:57
core
8:58
is
8:58
just
8:58
a
8:58
musician.
8:59
All
8:59
ultimately.
8:59
Yeah.
9:00
And
9:01
this
9:01
is
9:01
just
9:01
out
9:01
of
9:01
my
9:01
own
9:02
curiosity.
9:02
Were
9:02
you
9:03
wearing
9:03
like
9:03
the
9:03
straight
9:04
edge,
9:04
like
9:04
gardening
9:05
gloves
9:05
with
9:05
the
9:05
X
9:05
on
9:06
them?
9:06
I
9:06
did.
9:06
It
9:07
was
9:07
fingerless.
9:07
Fingerless
9:08
gloves,
9:08
man.
9:08
It
9:08
was
9:09
with
9:09
the
9:09
X's
9:09
on
9:09
them.
9:10
Yeah,
9:10
yeah,
9:11
it
9:11
was.
9:11
I
9:12
was,
9:12
it
9:12
was
9:12
so
9:12
funny
9:13
because
9:13
I
9:13
was
9:13
wearing,
9:13
you
9:14
know,
9:14
like,
9:14
I
9:14
was
9:14
in
9:14
the
9:14
slipknot.
9:15
I
9:15
was
9:15
wearing
9:15
slipknot
9:16
shirts
9:16
and
9:17
just
9:17
baggy
9:17
jeans
9:18
and
9:18
everybody,
9:19
of
9:19
course,
9:19
and.
9:19
And
9:20
being
9:20
in
9:21
a
9:21
very
9:21
rural
9:21
area,
9:22
that
9:22
got
9:23
me
9:23
labeled
9:23
as
9:24
goth,
9:25
which
9:26
is
9:26
not
9:27
even
9:27
remotely
9:27
close.
9:28
And
9:28
I'm
9:28
pretty
9:28
sure
9:29
they
9:29
thought
9:29
I
9:29
was
9:29
like
9:29
a
9:29
devil
9:30
worshiper
9:30
or
9:30
something
9:30
too,
9:31
which
9:31
is
9:31
also
9:31
not
9:32
close.
9:32
Not
9:32
at
9:33
all.
9:33
But
9:33
that
9:34
helped
9:34
me
9:34
find
9:35
music
9:36
overall.
9:38
Once
9:38
I
9:38
found
9:39
that
9:39
it
9:39
was
9:40
kind
9:40
of
9:40
unshakable
9:41
at
9:41
that
9:41
point,
9:41
I
9:42
was
9:42
like,
9:42
this
9:42
is
9:42
who
9:42
I
9:42
am.
9:43
The
9:43
music
9:43
is
9:44
part
9:44
of
9:44
me.
9:44
I
9:45
am
9:45
a
9:45
musician.
9:46
Screw
9:46
it.
9:47
All
9:47
this
9:47
other
9:47
crap
9:47
is.
9:47
This
9:48
is
9:48
who
9:48
I
9:48
am.
9:48
I'm
9:48
confident
9:49
in
9:49
this.
9:49
I'm
9:49
gonna
9:50
stand
9:50
on
9:50
this
9:51
because
9:51
this
9:51
is
9:51
what
9:51
I
9:51
love.
9:52
And
9:53
I
9:53
was
9:53
obsessed.
9:53
I
9:54
mean,
9:55
I
9:55
literally
9:56
would
9:56
stand
9:57
if
9:57
I
9:58
would
9:58
get
9:58
home
9:58
from
9:58
school,
9:58
pick
9:59
up
9:59
my
9:59
guitar,
9:59
and
10:00
I
10:00
would
10:00
play
10:00
from
10:01
4
10:01
o'
10:01
clock
10:01
until
10:02
it's
10:02
time
10:02
to
10:02
go
10:02
to
10:02
bed.
10:03
And
10:03
I
10:03
was
10:03
very
10:04
fortunate
10:04
that
10:04
I
10:04
had
10:05
supportive
10:05
parents
10:06
that
10:07
were
10:07
okay
10:08
with
10:08
that,
10:08
you
10:09
know.
10:09
But
10:09
yeah,
10:09
music
10:10
and
10:10
being
10:10
a
10:10
musician
10:11
and
10:11
kind
10:12
of
10:12
having
10:12
that,
10:13
you
10:13
know,
10:14
you
10:14
don't
10:14
do
10:14
what
10:14
you
10:15
tell
10:15
me
10:15
kind
10:15
of
10:15
attitude.
10:16
Yeah.
10:17
So
10:17
to
10:17
speak.
10:18
That,
10:18
that,
10:18
that
10:19
all
10:19
came
10:19
from
10:19
learning
10:20
guitar,
10:20
really.
10:21
Like,
10:21
I
10:21
was
10:22
never
10:22
a
10:22
musician.
10:23
Like,
10:23
I've.
10:24
I've
10:24
been
10:24
a
10:25
vocalist
10:25
in
10:25
many
10:25
bands,
10:26
but,
10:26
like,
10:27
being
10:27
actually
10:27
able
10:28
to
10:28
play
10:28
an
10:28
instrument,
10:29
I've
10:29
never
10:29
been
10:29
able
10:30
to
10:30
do.
10:30
So
10:30
I've,
10:31
you
10:31
know,
10:31
participated
10:32
in
10:32
music
10:33
otherwise.
10:34
But
10:34
yeah,
10:34
like,
10:34
once
10:35
I
10:35
once
10:36
like
10:36
music
10:36
hooked
10:37
Me,
10:37
it
10:38
was
10:38
over.
10:38
Yeah.
10:39
You
10:39
know,
10:39
just
10:40
consuming
10:41
as
10:41
much
10:41
as
10:42
I
10:42
could,
10:43
you
10:43
know,
10:43
and
10:44
sometimes
10:44
it
10:44
would
10:44
be
10:44
just
10:44
going
10:45
to
10:45
a
10:45
record
10:45
store
10:45
and
10:45
just.
10:46
And
10:46
just,
10:46
you
10:46
know,
10:46
with
10:47
no
10:47
money,
10:47
but
10:48
just
10:48
like,
10:48
okay,
10:48
let
10:48
me,
10:49
Let
10:49
me
10:49
flip
10:49
through
10:49
all
10:50
the
10:50
records,
10:50
all
10:50
the
10:50
CDs,
10:51
all,
10:51
you
10:51
know,
10:51
whatever,
10:52
and
10:53
just
10:53
try
10:53
to
10:53
find
10:54
something
10:55
that.
10:56
Just
10:56
looking
10:57
at,
10:57
you
10:58
know,
10:58
album
10:58
covers,
10:59
like,
11:00
let
11:00
me
11:00
find
11:00
something
11:00
that
11:01
just
11:01
hits
11:01
me.
11:01
Yeah.
11:02
And
11:02
makes
11:02
me
11:03
feel
11:03
something.
11:03
And
11:04
then,
11:04
you
11:04
know,
11:05
I'll
11:05
go
11:05
from
11:05
there
11:05
and
11:05
I'll
11:05
figure
11:06
it
11:06
out.
11:06
Like,
11:06
I'll
11:06
figure
11:07
out
11:07
how
11:07
to
11:07
get
11:07
it
11:07
or
11:08
listen
11:08
to
11:08
it
11:08
or
11:09
whatever.
11:09
And
11:10
for
11:10
me,
11:10
obviously,
11:10
that
11:11
was
11:11
all
11:11
like
11:11
sort
11:11
of
11:11
pre
11:12
Internet.
11:12
Yes.
11:12
The
11:13
1940s.
11:15
Pretty
11:15
close.
11:17
Pretty
11:17
close.
11:18
But
11:18
yeah.
11:19
And
11:19
then
11:19
the
11:19
other,
11:19
the
11:20
other
11:20
thing
11:20
that
11:20
you
11:20
said
11:20
that
11:20
sort
11:21
of
11:21
struck
11:21
me
11:21
interesting,
11:21
going
11:22
back
11:22
to
11:22
the
11:22
straight
11:22
edge
11:23
thing,
11:23
is
11:23
that,
11:23
you
11:23
know,
11:23
in
11:24
high
11:24
school
11:24
I
11:24
was
11:24
straight
11:24
edge,
11:25
and
11:25
I'm.
11:25
I'm
11:25
still
11:25
straight
11:26
edge.
11:26
And
11:27
for
11:27
me,
11:27
straight
11:27
edge
11:27
was.
11:28
Has
11:28
always
11:28
been
11:28
a
11:28
very
11:29
personal
11:30
choice.
11:31
Like,
11:32
it's
11:32
a
11:32
decision
11:32
I
11:33
made
11:33
for
11:33
myself.
11:33
It's
11:33
not
11:33
a
11:34
decision
11:34
I
11:34
made
11:34
for
11:34
everybody
11:35
else.
11:35
Right.
11:36
And
11:36
I
11:36
know,
11:37
you
11:37
know,
11:37
different
11:37
people
11:38
feel
11:38
different
11:38
ways
11:38
about
11:38
it,
11:39
but,
11:39
you
11:39
know,
11:39
that's
11:39
how
11:40
I
11:40
feel
11:40
about
11:40
it.
11:40
I
11:40
don't
11:40
care
11:41
what
11:41
you
11:41
are,
11:42
how
11:42
you
11:42
identify
11:43
what,
11:43
whatever,
11:44
it
11:44
doesn't
11:44
matter
11:44
to
11:44
me.
11:45
But
11:45
when
11:45
I
11:45
was
11:46
in
11:46
high
11:46
school,
11:47
you
11:47
know,
11:47
I
11:47
was
11:47
xed
11:48
up.
11:48
I
11:48
had
11:48
straight
11:49
ed
11:49
shirts,
11:49
I
11:49
had
11:50
whatever.
11:51
And
11:51
I
11:51
went
11:52
to
11:52
a
11:52
pretty
11:52
big
11:52
high
11:53
school
11:54
right
11:54
outside
11:54
of
11:55
Washington,
11:55
D.C.
11:56
and
11:56
so.
11:57
And
11:57
my
11:57
high
11:57
school
11:57
was
11:58
really
11:58
diverse.
11:58
So
11:58
I
11:58
had
11:59
like
12:00
all
12:00
of
12:00
the
12:00
major
12:00
gangs
12:01
represented,
12:01
but
12:02
I
12:02
also
12:02
had,
12:03
like,
12:03
represent
12:04
representatives
12:05
and
12:05
senators,
12:06
kids
12:06
going
12:07
to
12:07
school
12:07
with
12:07
me
12:07
at
12:07
the
12:08
same
12:08
time,
12:08
you
12:09
know,
12:09
so
12:09
I
12:09
had,
12:10
you
12:10
know,
12:10
I
12:11
had
12:11
the
12:11
class
12:12
spectrum.
12:13
Yeah.
12:13
At
12:13
my
12:13
school,
12:15
drug
12:15
dogs
12:16
would
12:16
come
12:16
in
12:16
and,
12:16
you
12:16
know,
12:17
and
12:17
sniff
12:17
the
12:17
school
12:17
down.
12:18
And,
12:19
you
12:19
know,
12:19
it
12:20
was,
12:20
it
12:20
was
12:21
an
12:21
interesting
12:21
place,
12:22
but,
12:23
you
12:23
know,
12:23
and
12:23
I,
12:23
I
12:23
would
12:24
wear
12:24
a
12:24
band
12:24
shirt
12:24
every
12:25
single
12:25
day.
12:25
And
12:26
the
12:26
only
12:26
time
12:27
I
12:27
ever
12:27
got
12:27
flack
12:29
was
12:30
when
12:30
I
12:31
wore
12:31
a
12:31
straight
12:31
edge
12:32
shirt.
12:32
And,
12:33
and,
12:33
you
12:33
know,
12:33
teachers
12:34
were
12:34
like,
12:34
hey,
12:34
you
12:34
need
12:34
to
12:34
turn
12:35
that
12:35
inside
12:35
out.
12:36
And
12:36
there's
12:36
one
12:36
in
12:36
particular.
12:37
And,
12:37
you
12:37
know,
12:38
on
12:38
the
12:38
front
12:38
it
12:38
said
12:38
straight
12:39
Edge.
12:39
On
12:39
the
12:39
back
12:39
it
12:39
was
12:39
a
12:40
picture
12:40
of
12:40
somebody
12:40
drinking.
12:40
It
12:41
said,
12:41
drinking
12:41
sucks.
12:44
I
12:44
mean,
12:44
very.
12:45
What
12:45
a
12:45
terrible
12:46
message.
12:47
Right?
12:47
And
12:47
teacher
12:48
like,
12:48
hey,
12:48
you
12:48
need
12:48
to
12:48
turn
12:49
that
12:49
inside
12:49
out.
12:50
And
12:50
I'd
12:50
always
12:51
like,
12:51
no,
12:51
like,
12:52
make
12:52
me.
12:52
You
12:53
know,
12:53
there
12:53
are
12:53
kids
12:53
walking
12:54
down
12:54
the
12:54
hallways
12:55
with
12:55
pot
12:55
leaves
12:56
on
12:56
their
12:56
shirt
12:56
and
12:56
you're
12:57
not
12:57
saying
12:57
anything
12:57
to
12:58
them.
12:58
But
12:59
me
12:59
who's
12:59
like
12:59
saying,
13:00
hey,
13:00
guess
13:00
what?
13:01
You
13:01
shouldn't
13:01
drink,
13:02
you
13:02
shouldn't
13:03
do
13:03
drugs.
13:03
Like,
13:04
I'm
13:04
the
13:04
one
13:04
you
13:04
want
13:04
to.
13:05
You
13:05
want
13:05
to.
13:05
Silence.
13:06
And
13:06
again,
13:06
everyone's
13:06
like,
13:07
it's
13:07
gag
13:07
related.
13:08
Yeah.
13:08
You
13:08
know,
13:08
what
13:08
are
13:08
all
13:08
these
13:09
X's
13:09
for?
13:10
Straight
13:10
edges.
13:11
Gang
13:11
and
13:12
protein.
13:12
Gangs.
13:13
No,
13:13
I'm
13:13
not.
13:14
Yeah.
13:14
Yeah.
13:15
So
13:15
same
13:15
experience.
13:17
Exact
13:17
same
13:17
experience.
13:19
Yeah.
13:19
In
13:20
a
13:20
very
13:20
different
13:20
part
13:21
of
13:21
the
13:21
country.
13:22
We're
13:22
going
13:22
to
13:22
get
13:22
off
13:23
track
13:23
a
13:23
couple
13:23
times.
13:24
Oh,
13:24
I'm
13:24
sure.
13:24
Be
13:25
prepared.
13:25
Yeah,
13:25
man.
13:28
With
13:28
that,
13:29
you
13:30
know.
13:30
Music,
13:30
right?
13:32
Playing
13:32
music.
13:33
At
13:33
what
13:34
point
13:35
in
13:35
time
13:35
did
13:36
you
13:37
become
13:37
aware
13:39
of,
13:39
like,
13:40
that
13:40
there
13:40
was
13:40
a
13:40
greater
13:41
community?
13:43
So
13:44
that
13:44
would
13:44
probably
13:44
be.
13:46
I
13:46
started
13:46
working
13:47
at
13:47
Guitar
13:48
center
13:49
about
13:49
a
13:49
month
13:49
after
13:50
I
13:50
turned
13:50
18
13:51
in
13:51
Montgomery.
13:52
And
13:54
honestly,
13:55
man,
13:55
the.
13:56
The
13:56
crew
13:57
that
13:57
I
13:57
started
13:57
with
13:58
there,
13:58
I'm
13:58
still
13:59
friends
13:59
with
13:59
most
14:00
of
14:00
the.
14:00
Those
14:00
people
14:00
to
14:00
this
14:01
day.
14:02
Those
14:02
guys
14:03
are
14:04
honestly,
14:05
truly,
14:06
really
14:06
responsible
14:07
for
14:07
introducing
14:07
me
14:08
to
14:08
some
14:08
of
14:08
my
14:08
favorite
14:09
bands.
14:10
And
14:10
it
14:10
was
14:10
all
14:11
started
14:11
there.
14:12
So
14:13
when
14:13
I
14:13
started
14:13
at
14:13
Guitar
14:14
Center,
14:14
I
14:14
worked
14:15
in
14:16
the
14:16
operations
14:17
side,
14:17
which
14:17
is
14:17
warehouse,
14:18
back
14:18
of
14:18
house.
14:18
But
14:19
for
14:19
those
14:20
who
14:20
remember,
14:20
we
14:20
used
14:20
to
14:20
stamp
14:21
receipts
14:21
at
14:21
the
14:21
front
14:21
door.
14:22
I
14:22
was.
14:22
That's
14:22
where
14:22
I
14:23
first
14:23
started.
14:24
But
14:24
once,
14:24
you
14:25
know,
14:25
I've
14:25
been
14:25
there
14:25
for
14:25
a
14:25
little
14:26
bit,
14:26
I
14:26
started
14:26
working
14:26
in
14:27
the
14:27
warehouse.
14:27
There
14:27
was
14:28
two
14:28
dudes,
14:29
Will
14:30
from
14:30
the
14:30
Abusements,
14:31
who.
14:32
Who,
14:32
you
14:32
know,
14:33
and
14:34
Chris.
14:34
Chris
14:35
Eccles,
14:36
who
14:36
was
14:37
previously
14:37
in
14:37
Amusements.
14:38
He
14:38
played
14:38
in.
14:40
Gosh,
14:40
he's
14:40
played
14:40
in
14:40
a
14:40
couple
14:41
other
14:41
bands
14:41
as
14:41
well.
14:42
I
14:42
don't.
14:42
That
14:42
are
14:43
not
14:43
playing
14:43
right
14:43
now,
14:44
but.
14:45
But
14:45
he's
14:45
been
14:45
in
14:45
some
14:45
different
14:46
punk
14:46
bands
14:46
over
14:46
the
14:47
years.
14:47
And
14:47
those
14:48
two
14:48
guys.
14:49
Will
14:49
is.
14:50
I
14:50
think
14:50
I
14:50
want
14:50
to
14:50
say
14:51
Will's
14:51
about
14:51
10
14:52
to
14:52
15
14:52
years
14:52
older
14:53
than
14:53
I
14:53
am,
14:53
if
14:53
I'm
14:53
not
14:53
mistaken.
14:55
So
14:55
he
14:55
was
14:55
playing,
14:56
you
14:56
know,
14:56
no
14:56
effects
14:57
and.
14:58
And
14:59
just
14:59
classic.
14:59
Like
15:00
there
15:00
was
15:00
Clash
15:00
and
15:01
stuff
15:01
like
15:01
that.
15:02
So
15:02
much
15:03
no
15:03
Effects,
15:03
man.
15:03
I
15:04
can't.
15:04
So
15:04
much
15:05
no
15:05
Effects
15:06
going
15:06
on
15:06
in
15:06
the
15:07
warehouse.
15:07
And
15:08
then
15:08
Chris
15:09
Eccles,
15:09
his
15:10
side
15:10
was
15:10
a
15:10
little
15:10
different.
15:10
He
15:11
had
15:11
stuff
15:11
like.
15:12
I
15:12
feel
15:12
like
15:13
there
15:13
was
15:13
some
15:13
Fugazi,
15:13
some
15:14
Mondo
15:14
Generator,
15:14
Queens
15:15
of
15:15
Stone
15:15
Age,
15:15
Caius
15:16
Clutch,
15:17
like
15:17
all
15:17
this
15:18
different
15:18
amalgamation
15:19
of
15:19
stuff.
15:20
So
15:20
those
15:20
guys
15:21
really
15:21
introduced
15:21
me
15:21
into
15:22
a
15:23
broader
15:23
world
15:24
that
15:24
I
15:24
knew.
15:25
And
15:25
then
15:25
through
15:26
them
15:26
I
15:27
started.
15:27
There
15:27
was
15:28
a
15:28
really
15:28
small
15:29
DIY
15:29
space,
15:30
and
15:30
this
15:30
is
15:30
in
15:30
Montgomery,
15:31
Alabama,
15:33
that
15:33
was
15:33
run
15:33
by
15:34
my
15:34
buddy
15:34
Jason,
15:35
who's
15:35
now
15:35
in
15:36
the
15:37
band
15:37
Towering
15:37
Above
15:38
Is
15:39
there
15:39
out
15:39
of
15:40
Montgomery.
15:40
But
15:40
Jason
15:41
ran
15:42
a
15:42
DIY
15:43
venue
15:43
called
15:43
the
15:44
Rabid
15:44
Goat
15:45
was
15:45
the
15:45
name
15:45
of
15:45
the
15:46
venue.
15:46
It
15:46
was
15:46
literally
15:47
a
15:47
storage
15:48
shed.
15:49
It
15:49
was
15:49
A
15:49
double.
15:50
A
15:50
double
15:50
unit
15:51
that
15:51
they
15:51
had
15:51
converted
15:52
to
15:52
a
15:52
DIY
15:53
space.
15:54
And
15:54
I
15:55
went
15:55
with
15:55
Gloria,
15:56
who
15:56
my
15:56
wife.
15:56
And
15:57
we
15:57
were
15:57
dating
15:58
at
15:58
the
15:58
time,
15:58
so
15:58
she
15:58
was
15:58
still
15:59
in
15:59
high
15:59
school.
15:59
And
16:00
we
16:00
went
16:00
to
16:01
a
16:01
punk
16:01
show
16:02
at
16:02
this
16:02
place,
16:03
Rabid
16:03
Goat.
16:04
And
16:04
we
16:04
walk
16:04
in
16:05
and,
16:05
like,
16:06
I
16:06
saw
16:06
Will
16:06
there
16:07
and
16:07
I
16:07
saw
16:07
Echols
16:08
there,
16:08
and
16:09
there
16:09
were
16:09
bands
16:09
playing.
16:10
Snow
16:11
Grove
16:11
was
16:11
in
16:11
a
16:11
band
16:12
at
16:12
the
16:12
time
16:13
called
16:13
Flip
16:13
the
16:14
Switch.
16:14
There's
16:15
a
16:15
band
16:15
called
16:15
Ball
16:15
Swag
16:16
that
16:16
was
16:16
just
16:17
like,
16:17
snotty
16:17
punk.
16:19
I
16:19
can't
16:19
remember
16:19
who
16:20
else
16:20
played
16:20
that
16:20
show,
16:21
but
16:21
I
16:22
think
16:22
that's
16:22
really.
16:23
That.
16:24
That
16:24
kind
16:24
of
16:25
started
16:25
crystallizing
16:26
everything
16:26
for
16:26
me
16:27
at
16:27
that
16:27
point
16:28
and
16:28
seeing
16:29
the
16:29
connection
16:30
and
16:30
all
16:30
these
16:30
people.
16:32
And
16:33
so
16:33
through
16:33
Guitar
16:34
center,
16:34
that's
16:34
how
16:34
I
16:35
got
16:35
connected
16:35
to
16:35
it.
16:35
There
16:35
was
16:35
a
16:36
great
16:36
venue
16:36
in
16:36
Montgomery
16:37
that
16:37
was
16:38
also
16:38
kind
16:38
of
16:38
a
16:38
DIY
16:39
space
16:39
called
16:39
Head
16:39
on
16:39
the
16:39
Door.
16:40
I
16:40
don't
16:40
know
16:40
if
16:40
you
16:40
ever
16:41
got
16:41
down
16:41
the
16:41
Head
16:41
on
16:41
the
16:41
Door
16:42
when
16:42
it
16:42
was
16:42
there,
16:42
but
16:43
I
16:43
actually
16:43
played
16:44
it.
16:44
Head
16:44
on
16:44
the
16:44
Door.
16:44
Oh,
16:45
snap.
16:45
I
16:45
didn't
16:45
realize.
16:46
Right
16:46
on,
16:46
man.
16:46
Yeah.
16:47
What
16:47
band
16:47
was
16:47
that?
16:48
What
16:48
band
16:48
were
16:48
you
16:48
in
16:48
at
16:48
the
16:48
time?
16:50
What
16:50
band
16:50
was
16:50
I
16:51
in
16:51
at
16:51
the
16:51
time?
16:51
Social
16:52
Treason.
16:52
Social
16:53
Treason.
16:53
I
16:53
don't
16:53
think
16:54
I
16:54
ever
16:54
saw
16:54
the
16:54
name
16:54
of
16:55
the
16:55
band.
16:55
Yeah,
16:55
that's
16:55
pretty.
16:56
Yeah.
16:57
No
16:57
reason.
16:58
No
16:58
reason
16:58
to
16:59
go
16:59
any
16:59
further.
17:00
Yeah,
17:00
well,
17:00
so
17:01
it
17:01
was
17:01
really
17:01
interesting.
17:02
That
17:02
was
17:02
a
17:02
no.
17:03
So
17:03
Rabid
17:03
Goat
17:04
didn't
17:04
last
17:04
very
17:04
long,
17:05
I
17:05
think,
17:06
you
17:06
know,
17:06
they
17:06
got
17:06
in
17:06
trouble
17:07
for
17:07
running
17:07
shows,
17:08
and
17:09
it
17:09
was
17:09
a
17:09
BYO
17:10
whatever
17:11
space,
17:11
you
17:12
know.
17:13
So
17:13
you
17:13
had
17:14
kids,
17:14
you
17:15
had
17:15
underage
17:15
kids,
17:16
you
17:16
had
17:16
adults
17:16
in
17:17
there.
17:17
And
17:17
I
17:17
think
17:18
they
17:18
just
17:18
ended
17:18
up
17:18
having
17:19
to
17:19
shut
17:19
it
17:19
down.
17:19
But
17:20
Head
17:20
on
17:21
the
17:21
Door
17:21
definitely
17:22
became
17:22
more
17:22
of
17:22
a
17:22
place
17:23
once
17:23
I
17:23
got
17:23
into.
17:24
I
17:24
started.
17:25
I
17:25
joined
17:25
a
17:25
band.
17:25
Now,
17:26
it
17:26
was
17:26
not
17:26
a
17:26
punk
17:26
band
17:27
even
17:27
remotely.
17:27
It
17:28
was
17:28
basically
17:28
just
17:28
kind
17:29
of
17:29
a
17:29
rock
17:29
band.
17:30
But
17:31
one
17:31
thing
17:31
that
17:32
I
17:32
really
17:33
loved
17:33
about
17:33
being
17:34
in
17:34
that
17:34
band,
17:34
and
17:34
this
17:34
band
17:34
was
17:35
called
17:35
Easy
17:35
Kiddo.
17:36
Easy
17:37
Kiddo
17:37
was
17:38
just
17:38
a
17:38
rock
17:38
band,
17:38
but
17:39
we
17:39
play
17:39
shows
17:39
with
17:39
punk
17:40
bands,
17:40
with
17:40
metal
17:41
bands,
17:41
with
17:42
all
17:42
kinds
17:43
of
17:43
different
17:43
bands,
17:43
because
17:44
we
17:44
were
17:44
all
17:44
just
17:44
part
17:45
of
17:45
the
17:45
same
17:45
DIY
17:46
scene.
17:46
You
17:47
know,
17:47
it's
17:47
all
17:47
just
17:47
local.
17:48
We're
17:48
trying
17:49
to
17:49
get
17:49
out.
17:49
We're
17:50
trying
17:50
to
17:50
just
17:50
create
17:51
original
17:51
music,
17:51
something
17:52
we
17:52
care
17:52
about.
17:53
And
17:53
it
17:53
didn't
17:53
matter
17:54
what
17:54
genre
17:55
you
17:55
were
17:55
playing,
17:56
you
17:56
would
17:56
still
17:57
be
17:57
supporting
17:57
each
17:57
other
17:58
because
17:58
it
17:59
was
17:59
big
17:59
part
17:59
of
17:59
that
17:59
DIY
18:01
community.
18:02
So
18:03
Easy
18:03
Kiddo
18:04
ran
18:04
for
18:04
about
18:04
two
18:04
or
18:04
three
18:05
years.
18:05
I
18:05
was
18:05
in
18:05
that
18:05
band.
18:06
We
18:06
played
18:06
shows.
18:06
Montgomery,
18:07
Birmingham,
18:09
all
18:09
the
18:09
way
18:09
down,
18:09
like,
18:09
Panama
18:10
City.
18:10
I
18:10
don't
18:11
know
18:11
if
18:11
we
18:11
ever
18:11
went
18:11
north.
18:12
I
18:12
think
18:12
we
18:12
played
18:12
Atlanta
18:13
a
18:13
couple
18:13
times.
18:14
We
18:14
played
18:15
a
18:15
show
18:15
or
18:15
two
18:15
with
18:15
random
18:16
conflict
18:16
way
18:17
back
18:17
in
18:17
the
18:17
day.
18:18
So
18:18
Bill
18:18
was,
18:19
Bill
18:19
was
18:19
super
18:19
scary
18:20
to
18:20
me
18:20
at
18:20
the
18:20
time
18:20
though,
18:20
because
18:21
he
18:21
was
18:21
like
18:21
this
18:21
legend
18:22
of
18:22
the
18:23
scene.
18:23
And
18:24
now
18:24
I've
18:24
gotten
18:24
to
18:25
know
18:25
Bill
18:25
and,
18:25
and
18:25
he's
18:25
not
18:26
scary
18:26
at
18:26
all.
18:28
So
18:29
Bill
18:29
was
18:29
in
18:30
social
18:30
treason.
18:31
Oh,
18:31
no
18:31
way.
18:32
Okay,
18:32
cool.
18:33
Yeah,
18:34
so.
18:34
So
18:34
when
18:34
I
18:34
first
18:35
moved
18:35
down
18:35
here,
18:36
there
18:36
was
18:36
a
18:36
record
18:37
store
18:37
in
18:37
town
18:37
called
18:38
Sunburst,
18:40
Sunburst
18:40
Records.
18:41
And
18:41
I
18:41
went,
18:42
went
18:42
in
18:42
one
18:42
day
18:43
and
18:43
there
18:43
was
18:43
this
18:44
hand
18:45
written
18:45
note
18:46
on
18:46
the,
18:47
on
18:47
the
18:47
wall.
18:48
And
18:48
it
18:48
was,
18:49
it
18:49
was
18:49
on
18:49
like
18:49
a
18:49
piece
18:50
of
18:50
paper
18:50
that
18:51
was
18:51
torn
18:51
in
18:51
half,
18:52
just
18:52
handwritten
18:53
on
18:54
the
18:54
wall.
18:54
And
18:54
it
18:55
said,
18:55
band
18:56
looking
18:56
for
18:56
singer
18:57
Interests
18:58
must
18:58
include,
18:59
you
19:00
know,
19:00
seven
19:00
Seconds,
19:01
TSOL
19:02
Vandals,
19:03
Black
19:03
Flag,
19:04
Minor
19:04
Threat
19:04
attracts.
19:05
If
19:06
interested,
19:06
please
19:06
call.
19:07
And
19:08
that
19:08
was
19:08
like,
19:09
there
19:09
was
19:09
no
19:09
name.
19:10
Like
19:10
that's.
19:11
It
19:11
said,
19:11
looking
19:12
for
19:12
a
19:12
vocalist
19:12
must
19:13
be
19:13
interested
19:13
in
19:13
this
19:14
list
19:14
of
19:14
bands
19:15
and
19:15
a
19:15
phone
19:16
number.
19:16
You
19:16
know,
19:16
I,
19:17
you
19:17
know,
19:17
took
19:17
the
19:17
number
19:18
down
19:18
and
19:19
it
19:19
took
19:19
me
19:19
a
19:19
couple
19:20
weeks
19:20
to
19:20
call
19:20
because
19:21
in
19:21
my
19:22
head
19:22
it's
19:22
like,
19:22
I'm
19:22
going
19:22
to
19:23
call
19:23
this
19:23
number,
19:24
it's
19:24
going
19:24
to
19:24
be
19:25
a
19:25
bunch
19:25
of
19:25
like
19:25
14
19:26
year
19:26
olds.
19:27
Right?
19:28
Right.
19:29
So
19:29
I
19:30
called
19:30
the
19:30
number
19:30
and
19:30
it
19:31
was
19:31
definitely
19:31
not
19:31
a
19:31
14
19:32
year
19:32
old
19:32
that
19:32
answered.
19:33
And
19:33
I
19:33
was
19:33
like,
19:33
okay,
19:34
this
19:34
was
19:34
somebody's
19:34
home
19:35
phone
19:35
number
19:35
when
19:35
people
19:36
still
19:36
had
19:36
those.
19:37
And
19:37
I'm
19:37
talking
19:38
to
19:38
this
19:38
kid's
19:38
dad
19:39
and
19:39
he's
19:40
going
19:40
to
19:40
wonder
19:41
why
19:42
a
19:42
grown
19:42
ass
19:43
man
19:43
is
19:43
calling
19:44
his
19:44
child.
19:45
Right?
19:45
Yeah,
19:46
that's,
19:46
that's
19:46
a
19:46
sticky
19:47
situation
19:47
for
19:47
sure.
19:48
Right?
19:49
And
19:49
so,
19:49
so,
19:50
you
19:50
know,
19:50
so
19:50
I
19:50
said,
19:51
hi,
19:51
you
19:51
know,
19:51
my
19:51
name
19:52
is
19:52
Bo.
19:53
I
19:53
hope
19:54
I
19:54
have
19:54
the
19:54
right
19:54
person.
19:56
I
19:56
saw
19:56
this
19:56
ad
19:57
up
19:57
at
19:57
Starburst
19:58
Records
19:59
for
19:59
a
19:59
band
19:59
looking
20:00
for
20:00
a
20:00
singer.
20:01
And
20:01
so
20:01
I'm
20:01
calling.
20:02
And
20:02
he
20:02
was
20:02
like,
20:02
cool,
20:03
cool.
20:04
What's
20:04
your
20:04
name
20:04
again?
20:05
Bo.
20:06
Okay,
20:06
so
20:07
you
20:07
like
20:07
list,
20:08
like
20:09
yeah,
20:11
yeah,
20:11
I
20:12
listened
20:12
to
20:12
all
20:12
of
20:12
those
20:13
bands.
20:14
He's
20:14
like,
20:15
where
20:15
do
20:15
you
20:16
live?
20:16
I
20:16
was
20:16
like,
20:16
I
20:17
live
20:17
in
20:17
Huntsville.
20:17
And
20:18
he's
20:18
like,
20:18
okay,
20:18
we
20:19
practice
20:19
at
20:20
the
20:20
storage
20:20
unit.
20:21
Can
20:21
you
20:21
be
20:22
there
20:22
in
20:22
like
20:22
two
20:22
nights,
20:23
two
20:23
days?
20:24
Sure.
20:25
He
20:25
said,
20:25
and
20:25
have
20:25
lyrics
20:26
with
20:26
you.
20:26
I
20:26
was
20:26
like,
20:27
great,
20:27
I
20:28
will
20:28
have
20:28
lyrics
20:29
with
20:29
me.
20:29
I
20:29
hadn't
20:30
heard
20:30
them
20:30
play
20:32
nothing.
20:33
And
20:33
so,
20:33
so.
20:33
And
20:34
the
20:34
band
20:34
was
20:34
already
20:34
set
20:35
up.
20:35
So
20:35
it
20:35
was
20:35
Bill,
20:36
a
20:36
guy
20:36
named
20:36
Drew.
20:37
And
20:38
Drew
20:38
used
20:38
to
20:38
run
20:39
a
20:39
venue
20:40
in
20:40
Birmingham.
20:41
I
20:41
forget
20:41
what
20:41
it
20:41
was
20:41
called.
20:42
Was
20:43
pretty
20:43
big.
20:44
He
20:44
ran
20:44
a
20:44
venue
20:45
in
20:45
Birmingham
20:45
and
20:45
It
20:46
was
20:46
a.
20:46
And
20:47
our
20:47
drummer's
20:47
name
20:47
was
20:48
Kenny.
20:48
You
20:48
know,
20:49
all
20:49
these
20:49
guys
20:49
were,
20:49
you
20:50
know,
20:50
Bill's
20:50
age,
20:50
but
20:50
this
20:51
was
20:51
almost
20:52
20
20:52
years
20:52
ago,
20:53
so
20:53
Bill
20:54
minus
20:54
20
20:54
years.
20:55
So
20:55
there's
20:55
still,
20:55
like,
20:56
59
20:57
or
20:57
whatever.
20:58
And
20:58
so
20:59
I
20:59
walk
20:59
in.
20:59
So.
21:00
So
21:00
they're
21:01
there,
21:01
and
21:02
they.
21:02
They
21:02
all
21:02
had
21:02
another
21:03
band.
21:03
Two
21:04
bigger.
21:05
And
21:05
so
21:05
then
21:05
all
21:05
those
21:06
kids
21:06
were
21:07
there,
21:07
and
21:07
they
21:07
were
21:08
all
21:08
younger
21:08
than
21:08
me.
21:09
And
21:09
so
21:09
I
21:09
walk
21:10
in,
21:10
there's
21:11
a
21:11
crowd
21:11
to
21:11
watch
21:11
us,
21:12
and
21:13
these
21:13
three
21:13
guys,
21:14
and
21:14
they're
21:14
like,
21:15
hey,
21:15
we're
21:16
gonna
21:16
play
21:16
a
21:16
song.
21:16
Sing
21:17
along.
21:20
Okay.
21:21
Yeah.
21:21
Yeah.
21:21
And
21:21
then
21:21
we
21:22
were
21:22
a
21:22
band
21:22
for,
21:22
like,
21:22
two
21:23
or
21:23
three
21:23
years.
21:24
Yeah.
21:24
That's
21:24
how
21:24
I
21:25
met.
21:25
That's
21:26
how
21:26
I
21:26
met
21:26
Bill.
21:26
Wow.
21:27
That's
21:27
crazy,
21:27
man.
21:28
Trial
21:28
by
21:28
fire.
21:29
Yeah.
21:30
And
21:30
now
21:30
he
21:30
and
21:31
I
21:31
are
21:31
in
21:31
a
21:31
band
21:31
together
21:31
again.
21:32
But
21:32
so
21:33
with
21:33
that
21:33
community
21:34
piece.
21:35
What?
21:36
Because
21:36
obviously
21:37
you
21:37
came
21:37
back
21:37
to
21:37
another
21:38
show,
21:38
right?
21:38
Yeah.
21:39
Like,
21:39
that
21:39
wasn't
21:40
like.
21:40
You're
21:40
just
21:41
like,
21:41
hey,
21:41
this
21:41
is.
21:41
This
21:41
is
21:42
cool,
21:42
but
21:42
never
21:42
again.
21:43
Yeah.
21:43
So.
21:43
So
21:44
what
21:44
about
21:45
that
21:46
community
21:46
piece,
21:47
like,
21:48
kept
21:48
you
21:48
coming
21:49
back?
21:49
Dude,
21:50
is.
21:50
I
21:50
was
21:51
just
21:51
welcomed
21:51
immediately.
21:52
Like,
21:53
everyone
21:53
was
21:53
open,
21:54
everyone
21:54
was
21:55
funny,
21:55
everyone
21:56
was
21:56
engaging.
21:57
There
21:57
were,
21:57
you
21:57
know,
21:57
there's
21:58
these
21:58
characters,
21:59
these
21:59
people
21:59
that
22:00
were
22:00
larger
22:00
than
22:01
life,
22:01
and
22:02
it
22:02
was
22:02
kind
22:02
of
22:03
intoxicating
22:03
in
22:04
a
22:04
way
22:04
to.
22:04
To
22:05
be
22:05
around
22:05
that,
22:06
coming
22:06
from,
22:07
you
22:07
know,
22:07
I
22:07
don't
22:07
want
22:08
to
22:08
say
22:08
like,
22:08
really
22:08
sheltered,
22:09
but
22:09
coming
22:10
from
22:10
very
22:10
up,
22:11
from
22:11
the
22:11
school
22:11
I
22:11
went
22:11
to,
22:11
obviously
22:12
not
22:13
seeing
22:13
a
22:14
whole
22:14
lot
22:14
of
22:14
people
22:14
like
22:15
that,
22:15
and
22:15
then
22:16
coming
22:16
into
22:16
the
22:17
space
22:17
where
22:17
it's
22:17
like,
22:18
oh,
22:18
like,
22:18
everybody's
22:19
got
22:19
long
22:19
hair,
22:19
everybody's
22:20
got
22:20
tattoos,
22:21
everybody,
22:21
you
22:22
know,
22:22
like,
22:22
some
22:22
of
22:22
the
22:22
same
22:23
bands,
22:23
and
22:24
everybody's
22:25
just
22:25
like.
22:26
Nobody's
22:26
looking
22:26
at
22:26
me
22:27
like
22:27
I'm,
22:27
you
22:27
know,
22:28
the
22:29
black
22:29
sheep
22:29
or
22:29
whatever.
22:30
It
22:30
was
22:30
like,
22:30
just.
22:31
Come
22:31
on.
22:31
Everybody
22:31
was
22:32
just
22:32
accepting
22:32
of
22:32
me.
22:33
And
22:33
that
22:34
acceptance,
22:35
you
22:35
know,
22:35
was.
22:36
Was
22:36
the
22:37
key
22:37
right
22:37
there.
22:38
And
22:38
something
22:38
I
22:39
tried
22:39
to
22:39
carry
22:39
forward
22:40
for
22:40
whoever,
22:41
you
22:41
know,
22:42
any
22:42
show.
22:42
I.
22:43
I
22:43
just.
22:43
I
22:43
love
22:44
music
22:44
so
22:44
much
22:45
that
22:45
it
22:46
was
22:46
so
22:46
great
22:46
to
22:47
be
22:47
around
22:47
other
22:47
people
22:48
who
22:48
felt
22:48
the
22:48
same
22:48
way,
22:49
you
22:49
know,
22:49
it
22:50
felt
22:50
like
22:50
kind
22:50
of
22:50
a
22:50
kindred
22:51
spirit.
22:51
Spirits,
22:51
in
22:52
a
22:52
way.
22:53
Yeah,
22:53
definitely.
22:54
I
22:54
think
22:54
that's.
22:55
But
22:56
I
22:56
think
22:56
that's
22:56
something,
22:57
you
22:57
know,
22:57
really
22:58
unique
22:58
to
22:59
the
22:59
punk
23:00
scene
23:00
is
23:00
that.
23:01
That
23:02
welcoming
23:03
acceptance.
23:05
And
23:05
that's
23:06
something
23:06
that
23:06
really
23:06
drew
23:06
me
23:07
in
23:07
pretty,
23:08
pretty
23:08
quick,
23:09
was
23:09
like,
23:09
you
23:09
know,
23:10
we
23:10
don't.
23:10
We
23:10
don't
23:10
care
23:11
how
23:11
you
23:11
look.
23:12
We
23:12
don't
23:12
care,
23:14
you
23:14
know,
23:14
if
23:14
you
23:14
listen
23:15
to
23:15
the
23:15
same
23:15
brand
23:16
as
23:16
of
23:16
punk
23:17
that
23:17
we
23:17
do,
23:18
you
23:18
know,
23:18
are
23:18
you
23:18
a
23:19
cool
23:19
person?
23:19
Yes.
23:19
Or
23:20
no.
23:20
Yeah,
23:20
that
23:20
was.
23:21
At
23:21
the
23:21
end
23:21
of
23:21
the
23:22
day,
23:22
that's
23:22
all
23:22
that
23:22
mattered.
23:23
You
23:23
know,
23:23
if
23:23
you
23:23
weren't
23:24
a.
23:24
If
23:24
you
23:24
weren't
23:24
a.
23:25
Then
23:25
you're
23:25
good,
23:26
you
23:26
know?
23:27
Exactly,
23:28
exactly.
23:29
You
23:29
know,
23:29
even
23:30
have
23:30
their,
23:31
like,
23:31
little.
23:31
Little
23:32
click
23:32
in
23:32
the
23:32
punk
23:32
world.
23:32
Sure,
23:33
you
23:33
know,
23:34
they
23:34
do,
23:35
but.
23:35
Yeah,
23:36
but.
23:36
But
23:36
mostly.
23:36
But
23:37
mostly
23:37
it's
23:37
like,
23:37
yeah,
23:37
you
23:38
know,
23:38
as
23:38
long
23:38
as
23:38
you're
23:38
not
23:38
a
23:38
dick.
23:39
Like,
23:39
yeah,
23:39
come
23:40
on,
23:40
like,
23:40
hang
23:40
out.
23:41
Yeah,
23:41
we'll
23:42
figure
23:42
it
23:42
out.
23:42
Yeah.
23:43
And
23:43
to
23:43
me,
23:43
that's
23:43
a
23:44
really
23:45
special
23:45
thing.
23:46
And
23:46
for
23:47
me,
23:47
I
23:47
think
23:47
that's
23:47
what's
23:48
really,
23:48
you
23:48
know,
23:49
kept
23:49
me
23:49
around,
23:49
you
23:50
know,
23:50
however
23:51
many
23:51
years
23:51
I
23:51
am
23:51
into
23:52
this.
23:52
You
23:53
know,
23:53
I
23:53
think
23:53
I
23:53
went
23:53
to
23:53
my
23:53
first
23:54
show
23:54
when
23:54
I
23:54
was
23:55
11.
23:56
Oh,
23:56
snap.
23:57
I
23:57
turned
23:58
47
23:58
in
23:59
two
23:59
weeks.
23:59
So.
24:00
36
24:02
years.
24:02
Yeah,
24:03
36
24:03
years,
24:03
give
24:04
or
24:04
take.
24:05
Yeah.
24:05
And.
24:05
But
24:05
still,
24:06
you
24:06
know,
24:06
36
24:06
years
24:07
later,
24:07
it's
24:07
definitely
24:08
the
24:09
community.
24:09
And
24:09
I've,
24:10
you
24:10
know,
24:10
I
24:10
have
24:11
friends
24:12
definitely
24:12
all
24:13
over
24:13
the
24:13
country
24:13
and,
24:14
you
24:14
know,
24:14
all
24:14
over
24:14
the
24:14
world
24:15
because
24:15
of.
24:15
Of,
24:16
you
24:16
know,
24:16
just
24:16
meeting
24:17
at
24:17
shows
24:17
or,
24:18
you
24:18
know,
24:19
playing
24:19
together,
24:19
you
24:20
know,
24:20
whatever.
24:21
Yeah,
24:21
that's.
24:21
That's
24:22
some
24:22
of
24:22
my
24:22
favorite
24:22
stuff,
24:23
you
24:23
know,
24:23
is
24:23
like
24:23
the
24:24
people,
24:24
those
24:24
bands
24:25
that
24:25
you
24:25
maybe
24:26
see
24:26
once
24:26
or
24:26
twice
24:27
or
24:27
three
24:27
times
24:27
a
24:27
year
24:28
that
24:28
you're
24:29
friends
24:29
with,
24:29
and
24:29
it's
24:30
like,
24:30
as
24:30
soon
24:30
as
24:30
you
24:30
see
24:30
them,
24:31
it's
24:31
like
24:31
nothing.
24:32
There
24:32
was
24:32
no
24:32
missed
24:33
beats.
24:33
You're
24:34
just
24:34
immediately
24:34
happy.
24:35
You
24:35
want,
24:35
you
24:35
know,
24:35
hanging
24:36
out
24:36
and
24:36
it's
24:36
just
24:37
that
24:37
camaraderie.
24:38
And,
24:39
you
24:39
know,
24:39
I
24:39
can
24:40
think
24:40
of
24:40
so
24:40
many
24:40
bands,
24:41
like
24:42
one
24:42
of
24:42
my
24:42
favorite
24:42
bands,
24:43
and
24:43
I
24:43
think
24:43
you,
24:44
you
24:44
know,
24:44
them
24:44
are
24:45
Triangle
24:45
Fire.
24:46
And
24:46
they're
24:46
based
24:47
out
24:47
of.
24:47
They're
24:47
based
24:47
out
24:47
of
24:47
Athens,
24:48
which.
24:48
I'm
24:48
another
24:48
Athens
24:49
fan.
24:49
I
24:49
got
24:49
my.
24:50
My
24:50
beat
24:50
up
24:51
shirt
24:51
on
24:51
there.
24:51
Oh,
24:52
nice.
24:52
Yeah.
24:53
Yeah,
24:54
man,
24:54
those.
24:55
Nick
24:56
and
24:56
Tandy
24:57
from
24:57
Triangle
24:57
Fire
24:58
are
24:59
some
24:59
of
24:59
the.
25:00
The
25:00
warmest,
25:00
like,
25:01
most
25:01
welcoming
25:01
people
25:01
I've
25:02
ever
25:02
met.
25:03
And
25:03
I've
25:03
seen
25:03
them,
25:04
you
25:04
know,
25:04
in
25:04
Birmingham,
25:05
I've
25:05
seen
25:05
them
25:05
in
25:05
Montgomery.
25:06
I've
25:06
seen
25:06
them
25:07
in
25:07
Nashville,
25:08
which
25:08
was
25:08
really
25:08
cool.
25:09
They
25:09
played
25:09
my
25:10
daughter's
25:10
birthday
25:10
a
25:10
few
25:11
years
25:11
ago,
25:11
which
25:11
is
25:12
really
25:12
awesome.
25:12
So,
25:14
yeah,
25:14
just.
25:15
That's
25:15
the
25:15
cool
25:15
thing
25:16
about
25:16
playing
25:17
music
25:17
and
25:17
being
25:18
part
25:18
of
25:18
the
25:18
scene
25:18
is
25:19
you
25:19
make
25:19
those
25:19
connections
25:20
all
25:21
over.
25:21
And,
25:21
you
25:22
know,
25:22
even
25:23
if
25:23
you
25:23
don't
25:23
see
25:23
each
25:23
other
25:24
in
25:24
person
25:24
all
25:24
the
25:24
time,
25:25
once
25:25
you
25:25
do,
25:25
it's
25:26
just.
25:26
It's
25:27
just
25:27
immediate
25:27
acceptance
25:28
and
25:28
welcome
25:29
and,
25:29
you
25:29
know,
25:30
it's
25:30
just
25:30
all
25:31
that
25:31
stress
25:31
and
25:31
all
25:32
that
25:32
anxiety
25:32
of
25:33
being
25:33
in
25:33
a
25:33
new
25:33
place
25:33
or
25:34
whatever
25:34
just
25:34
melts
25:34
away
25:34
because
25:35
you've
25:35
got.
25:35
You
25:35
got
25:35
your
25:36
friend
25:36
there.
25:37
And
25:37
I
25:37
don't
25:37
feel
25:38
like
25:38
it's.
25:39
I
25:40
don't
25:40
feel
25:40
like
25:40
they
25:40
are
25:40
performative
25:41
relationships.
25:42
Right.
25:43
Like
25:43
this.
25:43
The
25:44
stoke
25:44
and
25:45
the
25:45
excitement
25:46
when
25:46
we
25:46
see
25:47
each
25:47
other
25:47
after
25:48
however
25:48
long,
25:50
you
25:50
know,
25:50
I
25:50
feel
25:51
is
25:51
genuine.
25:51
Yeah,
25:52
for
25:52
sure.
25:53
Again,
25:53
I
25:53
just
25:53
think
25:53
that's
25:54
rare
25:54
in
25:54
this
25:54
world
25:56
where
25:56
there
25:56
are
25:56
just
25:57
so
25:57
many,
25:57
you
25:58
know,
25:58
especially
25:58
with
25:58
social
25:59
media
25:59
and,
25:59
you
25:59
know,
26:00
whatever.
26:00
Just
26:01
so
26:01
much
26:01
performative
26:03
interaction.
26:04
I
26:04
agree.
26:05
Yeah.
26:05
And,
26:05
like,
26:06
I
26:06
mean,
26:06
I
26:06
have
26:06
friends,
26:07
you
26:07
know,
26:07
I
26:07
lived
26:07
in
26:08
Wyoming
26:08
for
26:08
a
26:08
while.
26:08
I
26:08
was
26:09
involved
26:09
out
26:09
there,
26:10
and,
26:10
you
26:10
know,
26:10
I
26:10
have
26:11
friends
26:11
in
26:11
Wyoming,
26:12
and
26:12
we
26:13
ran,
26:13
like,
26:13
every
26:14
couple
26:14
years.
26:14
We
26:14
randomly
26:15
happened
26:15
to
26:15
be
26:15
in
26:16
the
26:16
same
26:16
place
26:16
together.
26:17
Right.
26:17
Five
26:18
or
26:18
six
26:18
years
26:18
ago,
26:18
I
26:19
was
26:19
in
26:19
Vegas
26:19
for
26:19
a
26:19
conference,
26:20
and
26:20
they
26:20
were
26:20
down
26:20
there,
26:21
like,
26:21
celebrating
26:21
their
26:21
anniversary,
26:22
and.
26:22
And
26:22
we
26:23
just,
26:23
like,
26:23
ran
26:23
into
26:24
each
26:24
other
26:24
and
26:24
then
26:24
hung
26:25
out
26:25
for
26:25
an
26:25
entire
26:25
day.
26:26
Like,
26:26
I
26:26
blew
26:26
off
26:26
the
26:26
conference.
26:27
We're
26:27
like,
26:27
wow,
26:27
you
26:27
know,
26:28
this
26:28
is
26:28
awesome.
26:28
You
26:29
know,
26:29
And
26:29
I've
26:29
run
26:29
into
26:29
him
26:30
in
26:30
other
26:30
places,
26:30
too.
26:31
Yeah.
26:31
Just
26:32
the
26:32
honest,
26:33
genuine
26:35
emotion
26:35
and
26:36
relationships.
26:36
And
26:37
you
26:37
don't
26:37
really
26:37
have
26:37
to
26:38
for
26:39
most
26:39
people,
26:39
obviously,
26:39
there's
26:40
always
26:40
exceptions
26:40
to
26:40
rules,
26:41
but
26:41
I
26:41
don't
26:41
feel
26:42
like
26:42
with
26:42
most
26:42
people,
26:42
you
26:43
have
26:43
to
26:44
question
26:44
their
26:46
intent
26:46
with
26:46
the
26:47
relationship.
26:47
I
26:47
agree.
26:47
Yeah.
26:48
100%.
26:50
So
26:50
with
26:50
that,
26:51
I'm
26:51
gonna
26:52
ask
26:52
some
26:52
questions,
26:52
and
26:52
if
26:52
you.
26:53
If
26:53
you
26:53
don't
26:53
want
26:53
to
26:53
answer,
26:53
you
26:53
can
26:53
just
26:54
tell
26:54
me.
26:54
Hey,
26:54
I
26:54
don't
26:54
want
26:54
to
26:54
answer.
26:55
Not
26:55
a
26:55
big
26:55
deal.
26:56
Just
26:56
going
26:57
with
26:57
that.
26:57
That
26:57
interaction
26:58
with
26:58
people.
26:59
Right.
27:00
Is
27:02
one
27:02
of
27:02
the
27:02
things
27:02
I
27:02
don't
27:03
feel
27:03
like
27:03
we.
27:03
We
27:04
talk
27:04
about
27:04
as
27:05
much
27:06
as
27:06
we
27:06
should
27:07
is
27:08
our
27:08
struggles.
27:09
And
27:09
when
27:09
we
27:10
see
27:10
each
27:10
other,
27:11
like,
27:11
the
27:11
stoke
27:12
is
27:12
real.
27:12
Right.
27:12
Like,
27:12
we're
27:13
stoked
27:13
to
27:13
see
27:13
each
27:13
other.
27:14
We're
27:14
amped
27:14
to
27:14
see
27:15
each
27:15
other,
27:15
but
27:16
I
27:16
don't
27:16
feel
27:17
like
27:18
we
27:18
are
27:18
necessarily
27:19
always
27:19
honest
27:20
in
27:21
expressing,
27:22
like,
27:23
what
27:23
we
27:24
may
27:24
need
27:25
in
27:25
that
27:25
moment
27:25
or
27:26
what
27:26
we
27:26
may
27:27
be
27:27
feeling
27:27
at
27:28
that
27:28
moment.
27:29
Yeah,
27:29
everything's
27:30
fine.
27:30
Everything's
27:30
good.
27:31
Everything's
27:31
been
27:31
good.
27:32
Everything's
27:32
good.
27:33
Right,
27:34
Right.
27:35
And
27:35
I
27:35
think
27:35
for
27:36
a
27:36
lot
27:36
of
27:36
us,
27:36
not
27:37
all
27:37
the
27:37
time,
27:37
but
27:38
some
27:38
of
27:38
the
27:39
time
27:39
it's
27:39
not.
27:39
Yeah,
27:40
right.
27:41
Like,
27:41
it's
27:41
not
27:41
all
27:42
good.
27:42
It's
27:42
not.
27:42
Okay.
27:43
It's
27:43
not.
27:44
And
27:44
so
27:44
part
27:45
of
27:45
my
27:45
exploration
27:46
with
27:46
this
27:46
is,
27:47
is
27:47
why,
27:47
like,
27:47
why
27:48
do
27:48
we.
27:49
If
27:49
we
27:50
value
27:50
those
27:51
honest
27:52
interactions
27:53
with
27:53
people,
27:54
And
27:54
I
27:54
promise
27:54
I
27:54
didn't,
27:55
like,
27:55
set
27:55
this
27:55
up.
27:55
Like,
27:56
this
27:56
has
27:56
just
27:56
been
27:56
sort
27:57
of
27:57
natural
27:57
conversation.
27:58
But
27:58
if
27:58
we.
27:58
If
27:59
we.
27:59
If
27:59
we.
27:59
If
28:00
we
28:00
honest
28:00
or
28:01
if
28:01
we.
28:01
If
28:01
we
28:01
value
28:02
that,
28:02
that
28:02
honest
28:03
interaction
28:03
with
28:04
people,
28:04
then
28:05
what
28:06
prevents
28:07
us
28:08
from
28:08
being
28:09
honest
28:10
about
28:10
ourselves?
28:11
Does
28:11
that
28:12
make
28:12
sense?
28:13
Yeah,
28:14
you
28:15
know,
28:15
I,
28:16
I
28:16
think
28:17
there's
28:17
probably
28:18
a
28:18
couple
28:18
things.
28:20
You
28:20
know,
28:20
the
28:20
one
28:21
is
28:21
that
28:21
if
28:22
you
28:22
haven't
28:22
seen,
28:22
maybe
28:23
if
28:23
you
28:23
haven't
28:23
seen
28:23
a
28:23
person
28:24
in
28:24
a
28:24
while,
28:25
you
28:25
don't
28:25
want
28:25
to
28:25
just
28:26
immediately
28:27
trauma
28:27
dump,
28:28
like,
28:28
hey,
28:29
good
28:29
to
28:29
see
28:29
you,
28:29
by
28:29
the
28:29
way,
28:30
here's
28:30
my
28:30
whole
28:30
ship.
28:32
Because
28:32
that
28:32
doesn't
28:33
feel,
28:33
doesn't
28:33
feel
28:34
great
28:34
either.
28:35
So
28:35
I
28:36
think
28:36
that's
28:36
part
28:36
of
28:36
it.
28:37
But
28:37
I,
28:37
I
28:37
do
28:38
think,
28:38
you
28:38
know,
28:38
there's
28:39
a,
28:39
there's
28:39
a
28:40
piece
28:41
where,
28:42
when
28:42
we
28:42
see
28:43
these
28:43
people
28:43
that
28:44
mean
28:44
something
28:44
to
28:45
us
28:45
in
28:45
the
28:45
scene
28:45
and
28:45
in
28:46
the
28:46
community,
28:47
there
28:48
is
28:48
at
28:49
least
28:49
for
28:49
a
28:49
brief
28:49
moment
28:49
of
28:50
time,
28:51
none
28:51
of
28:51
that
28:51
other
28:51
stuff
28:52
is
28:53
at
28:53
the
28:53
forefront.
28:54
You
28:54
know,
28:54
we
28:54
are
28:55
genuinely
28:55
in
28:55
that
28:55
moment,
28:56
excited
28:56
to
28:56
see
28:57
this
28:57
person,
28:58
genuinely
28:59
filled
28:59
with
29:00
that
29:00
joy
29:00
and
29:00
excitement,
29:01
excitement
29:01
of
29:01
being
29:02
around
29:02
them.
29:02
So.
29:03
But
29:03
I
29:04
think
29:04
for
29:04
a
29:04
lot
29:04
of
29:04
people
29:05
it's
29:05
really,
29:06
it
29:07
can
29:07
be
29:07
really
29:07
hard
29:07
to
29:07
talk
29:08
about
29:09
when
29:09
you
29:10
are
29:10
struggling
29:10
because
29:11
you
29:11
don't
29:12
want
29:12
to
29:12
present
29:13
maybe
29:13
weakness
29:14
or
29:15
perceived
29:15
weakness
29:16
from
29:16
others.
29:17
Maybe
29:18
you
29:18
don't
29:18
want
29:18
to
29:18
be
29:18
a
29:18
burden
29:19
to
29:19
others.
29:21
All
29:22
of
29:22
these
29:22
things,
29:23
you
29:23
know,
29:24
are
29:24
probably
29:24
running
29:24
through
29:24
our
29:25
brain.
29:25
There's
29:25
probably
29:25
some
29:26
self
29:26
doubt.
29:27
Are,
29:27
you
29:27
know,
29:27
like
29:28
if
29:28
I,
29:28
if
29:28
I
29:28
tell
29:28
them
29:29
this,
29:29
are
29:29
they
29:29
going
29:29
to
29:29
think
29:29
of
29:30
me
29:30
differently?
29:30
There's
29:31
a
29:31
lot
29:31
of
29:31
different
29:31
things
29:32
that
29:32
could
29:32
motivate
29:32
that.
29:33
And.
29:35
But
29:35
at
29:35
the
29:35
end
29:35
of
29:36
the
29:36
day,
29:36
you
29:37
know,
29:37
most
29:37
of
29:37
these
29:37
people,
29:38
if
29:39
you,
29:40
let's
29:40
say,
29:40
you
29:41
know,
29:41
when
29:41
we
29:41
were
29:42
talking
29:42
earlier,
29:42
you
29:42
mentioned,
29:43
you
29:43
know,
29:43
losing
29:44
a
29:44
friend
29:44
in
29:44
the
29:44
past
29:44
year.
29:45
And
29:45
I
29:45
think
29:45
we've
29:45
all
29:46
lost
29:46
friends
29:47
to
29:47
self
29:48
harm
29:48
or
29:48
accidental
29:49
things
29:50
or
29:50
whatever
29:51
over
29:51
the
29:51
years.
29:51
And
29:51
there's
29:52
too
29:52
many,
29:52
too
29:53
many.
29:53
And
29:54
we
29:55
always
29:55
say,
29:56
if
29:56
you
29:56
need
29:57
someone
29:57
to
29:57
talk
29:57
to,
29:58
come
29:59
to
29:59
me.
29:59
Like,
29:59
I
29:59
would
29:59
rather
30:00
talk
30:00
to
30:00
you
30:00
about
30:00
that.
30:02
But
30:02
we
30:02
hardly
30:03
take
30:03
up
30:03
that
30:03
offer.
30:04
I
30:04
see
30:04
most
30:05
of
30:05
the
30:05
time.
30:05
So
30:05
that
30:05
is
30:06
really
30:06
kind
30:06
of
30:06
an
30:06
interesting
30:07
dichotomy.
30:08
And
30:08
I
30:08
wish
30:09
I
30:09
had
30:09
the
30:09
perfect
30:09
answer
30:10
for
30:10
it.
30:10
But
30:11
I
30:11
would
30:11
say
30:12
that,
30:13
you
30:13
know,
30:13
we
30:13
understand
30:15
that
30:15
everybody
30:16
has
30:16
struggles.
30:18
Everyone.
30:19
I
30:19
think
30:19
that's
30:19
something.
30:20
The
30:21
punk
30:21
scene
30:21
as
30:21
a
30:22
whole,
30:22
if
30:22
you
30:22
take
30:22
a
30:22
step
30:23
back,
30:23
there's
30:24
lots
30:24
of
30:24
bruises,
30:25
there's
30:25
lots
30:26
of
30:26
things
30:26
that
30:26
have
30:27
happened.
30:27
There's
30:27
lots
30:27
of.
30:28
You
30:28
can
30:28
see
30:29
these
30:29
people
30:30
are
30:30
not
30:30
perfect
30:31
people.
30:31
These
30:31
people
30:32
have
30:32
been
30:32
through
30:32
addiction
30:33
struggles,
30:33
these
30:33
people
30:34
have
30:34
been
30:34
through
30:35
depressive
30:35
struggles,
30:36
they've
30:36
been
30:36
through
30:36
financial
30:37
struggles,
30:37
they've
30:38
been
30:38
through
30:38
it,
30:39
but
30:39
yet
30:40
they're
30:40
still
30:40
able
30:40
to
30:41
give
30:41
you
30:42
positivity.
30:43
On
30:43
the
30:43
other
30:43
side
30:43
of
30:44
that,
30:44
that.
30:44
Because
30:44
they
30:45
have
30:45
the
30:45
empathy
30:45
for
30:46
it.
30:46
So
30:46
I
30:46
think
30:47
we
30:47
worry
30:47
maybe
30:47
that
30:48
we
30:48
might
30:48
overload
30:48
them.
30:49
You
30:49
know,
30:49
they
30:49
might
30:49
be
30:50
dealing
30:50
with
30:50
their
30:50
own
30:50
stuff
30:50
and
30:51
we
30:51
don't
30:51
want
30:51
to,
30:51
we
30:52
don't
30:52
want
30:52
to
30:52
add
30:52
to
30:52
their
30:53
load
30:53
if
30:53
they're
30:53
already
30:54
struggling,
30:54
you
30:55
know.
30:55
So
30:55
I
30:55
think
30:56
that's
30:56
probably
30:56
a
30:56
little
30:56
bit
30:57
of
30:57
it.
30:58
But
30:58
yeah,
30:59
I
30:59
mean,
30:59
it's
30:59
tough,
31:00
dude.
31:01
Like,
31:02
everybody's
31:03
got
31:03
something.
31:03
Everybody's
31:04
got
31:04
something.
31:05
You
31:05
know,
31:06
I
31:06
have
31:06
kids
31:06
and
31:07
a
31:07
wife
31:07
and
31:09
rent
31:10
and
31:10
bills
31:11
and,
31:12
you
31:13
know,
31:13
in
31:13
the
31:13
past
31:13
two
31:14
years
31:14
I've
31:14
been
31:14
laid
31:15
off
31:15
twice,
31:17
which
31:17
is
31:17
as
31:18
the
31:18
main
31:19
source
31:19
of
31:19
income
31:20
for
31:20
our
31:20
family.
31:20
It
31:20
was
31:21
very
31:21
challenging.
31:23
And
31:24
I
31:24
will
31:24
say
31:25
in
31:25
those
31:26
two
31:26
times,
31:27
the
31:27
community
31:28
that
31:28
I
31:28
met
31:28
through
31:29
music
31:30
have
31:30
come
31:31
through
31:31
so
31:31
huge
31:32
for
31:32
me.
31:33
They've
31:34
been
31:34
there,
31:34
they've
31:35
been
31:35
there
31:35
to
31:35
offer
31:35
support,
31:36
support
31:36
in
31:36
those
31:36
moments
31:38
and,
31:38
and
31:39
help
31:39
me
31:39
out
31:39
and
31:40
people,
31:40
people
31:41
I
31:41
maybe
31:41
interacted
31:42
with
31:42
once
31:42
or
31:42
twice
31:44
even
31:44
would
31:45
reach
31:45
out
31:45
and
31:45
offer
31:46
or
31:46
do
31:46
this
31:46
or
31:47
do
31:47
that.
31:48
So,
31:48
you
31:49
know,
31:49
I
31:49
do
31:49
think
31:49
there's
31:49
a
31:49
lot
31:49
of
31:50
genuinely
31:50
good
31:50
people
31:51
out
31:51
there.
31:52
I
31:52
think
31:52
we
31:53
just
31:53
have
31:53
a
31:53
hard
31:53
time
31:54
broaching
31:55
these,
31:55
some,
31:55
these
31:56
topics
31:57
because
31:57
they're
31:57
uncomfortable.
31:59
Ultimately.
32:00
No,
32:00
I
32:00
agree
32:00
with
32:00
you.
32:01
And,
32:01
and
32:02
I
32:02
don't
32:02
think
32:02
there
32:02
is
32:03
a
32:03
perfect
32:03
answer.
32:04
I
32:04
think
32:04
it's
32:05
a
32:05
combination
32:06
of
32:06
everything
32:06
you
32:07
said
32:07
and
32:07
then
32:07
some.
32:08
And
32:08
also
32:09
I
32:09
think
32:09
within
32:09
certain,
32:11
you
32:11
know,
32:11
sub
32:11
genres
32:12
of
32:12
the
32:13
greater
32:13
scene,
32:14
it's
32:14
also,
32:16
it's
32:16
stigmatized.
32:17
Right.
32:17
So
32:18
let's
32:18
look
32:18
at
32:18
hardcore,
32:19
right?
32:19
And
32:20
that
32:20
scene
32:20
and
32:21
historically
32:21
it's
32:22
been
32:22
very,
32:23
you
32:23
know,
32:24
male
32:24
dominated,
32:26
macho.
32:28
And
32:28
I
32:28
love
32:29
Heart.
32:29
Sure,
32:29
man.
32:30
I
32:30
mean,
32:30
I
32:31
mean,
32:31
I
32:31
love
32:32
it.
32:33
You
32:33
can
32:33
love
32:34
something
32:34
and
32:34
still
32:34
criticize
32:35
it.
32:35
You
32:35
can
32:35
love
32:36
something
32:36
and
32:36
still
32:36
see,
32:37
see
32:37
what's
32:37
wrong
32:38
with
32:38
it.
32:39
I,
32:39
I
32:39
think
32:39
that's
32:40
something
32:40
that
32:41
overall,
32:42
as
32:42
human
32:43
beings,
32:43
it
32:43
feels
32:44
like
32:44
it's
32:44
been
32:44
gone
32:44
for
32:44
years
32:45
now.
32:45
It's
32:45
like
32:46
you
32:46
can
32:46
love
32:46
something
32:47
and
32:47
criticize
32:48
it.
32:48
And
32:48
I
32:48
think
32:48
if
32:49
you
32:49
love
32:49
something
32:49
enough,
32:49
then
32:50
you're
32:50
going
32:50
to
32:50
be
32:50
more
32:50
critical
32:51
of
32:51
it
32:51
because,
32:51
you
32:51
know,
32:51
it
32:51
can
32:52
be
32:52
better.
32:52
You
32:52
know,
32:52
it
32:53
can
32:53
be
32:53
this,
32:53
you
32:53
know,
32:53
it
32:54
can
32:54
be
32:54
that.
32:54
So
32:55
that's
32:55
all
32:55
that
32:55
was
32:55
my
32:55
point
32:56
on
32:56
that.
32:57
No,
32:57
no,
32:57
definitely,
32:58
I
32:58
agree
32:58
with
32:59
you
32:59
100.
32:59
Thank
33:00
you
33:00
for
33:00
making
33:00
that
33:00
point.
33:01
Like,
33:01
I
33:01
grew
33:02
up
33:02
in
33:02
the
33:02
D.C.
33:02
hardcore,
33:03
so
33:03
seen.
33:04
I
33:05
mean,
33:05
I
33:05
was
33:05
going
33:05
to
33:05
punk
33:05
shows
33:05
and
33:06
everything
33:06
too,
33:06
but
33:07
you
33:07
know,
33:07
like,
33:07
it
33:08
was
33:08
hard
33:08
to
33:09
go
33:09
to
33:09
a
33:09
show
33:09
and
33:10
not
33:10
see
33:10
somebody
33:11
talk
33:11
about
33:12
something.
33:12
I
33:13
saw
33:13
Earth
33:14
Crisis
33:14
very
33:15
early
33:15
in
33:15
their
33:15
career,
33:16
you
33:16
know,
33:16
talking
33:17
about
33:17
like
33:17
their,
33:18
their
33:18
Passion
33:18
for,
33:19
for
33:19
straight
33:19
edge
33:20
and
33:20
veganism.
33:21
You
33:21
know,
33:21
like,
33:22
like
33:22
when
33:22
I
33:22
first
33:22
started
33:22
going
33:23
to,
33:23
to
33:23
shows
33:23
in
33:24
D.C.
33:24
like
33:24
Krishna
33:25
was
33:25
very,
33:25
still
33:25
very
33:26
big
33:27
within
33:27
the
33:27
scene.
33:27
So
33:28
it
33:28
was,
33:28
it
33:28
was
33:28
not
33:29
uncommon.
33:29
Uncommon
33:30
to
33:30
have
33:31
like,
33:31
you
33:32
know,
33:32
Krishna
33:32
set
33:33
up
33:33
at
33:33
the
33:33
show
33:33
and
33:33
have
33:33
a
33:34
table
33:34
or
33:35
you
33:35
know,
33:35
stuff
33:35
like
33:35
that.
33:36
Or
33:36
people
33:36
talk
33:36
about
33:36
politics,
33:37
you
33:37
know.
33:37
You
33:38
know,
33:38
like
33:38
we're
33:38
in
33:39
D.C.
33:39
you
33:39
know,
33:39
how
33:39
can
33:40
you
33:40
not
33:40
talk
33:40
about
33:40
politics?
33:42
You
33:42
know,
33:42
food,
33:42
not
33:42
bombs
33:43
and
33:43
all
33:43
like,
33:44
you
33:44
know,
33:44
so
33:44
people
33:44
were
33:44
talking
33:45
about
33:45
everything
33:46
across,
33:47
across
33:47
the
33:48
spectrum.
33:48
There's
33:49
a
33:49
band
33:49
from
33:49
Boston
33:50
that
33:50
used
33:51
to
33:51
play
33:51
DC
33:51
quite
33:51
a
33:52
bit
33:52
called
33:52
Tree.
33:53
Like
33:53
very
33:54
like
33:55
environmental
33:56
but
33:56
like
33:57
looking
33:57
back
33:58
on
33:58
it,
33:59
very
33:59
like
34:00
nobody
34:00
was
34:01
talking
34:01
about
34:01
mental
34:01
health
34:02
issues.
34:03
The
34:03
only
34:04
band
34:05
that
34:05
I
34:05
really
34:06
remember
34:07
talking
34:07
about
34:07
mental
34:08
health
34:08
issues
34:09
was
34:09
band
34:10
called
34:10
Boy
34:10
Sets
34:10
Fire.
34:10
Oh
34:11
yeah,
34:11
I've
34:11
heard
34:11
of
34:11
them.
34:12
Yeah,
34:12
so
34:12
they're
34:12
out
34:13
of
34:14
Newark,
34:14
Delaware.
34:15
And
34:15
the
34:15
first
34:15
time
34:16
I
34:16
saw
34:16
them,
34:17
you
34:17
know,
34:17
their
34:18
singer,
34:19
like
34:19
he
34:19
talked
34:19
between
34:20
every
34:20
song
34:20
and
34:20
I
34:21
loved
34:21
it.
34:21
And
34:22
he
34:22
would
34:22
get
34:22
heckled.
34:23
You
34:23
know,
34:23
people
34:23
like,
34:23
you
34:23
know,
34:23
let's
34:24
talk
34:24
more
34:24
rock.
34:24
You
34:25
know,
34:25
and
34:25
he'd
34:25
like,
34:26
you
34:26
know,
34:26
you
34:26
like,
34:27
I'm
34:27
up
34:27
here.
34:27
This
34:27
is
34:28
my
34:28
band,
34:28
these
34:28
are
34:28
my
34:28
songs.
34:29
If
34:29
you
34:29
want
34:30
to
34:30
get
34:30
up
34:30
here
34:30
and
34:30
play
34:30
music,
34:30
get
34:31
up
34:31
here
34:31
and
34:31
play
34:31
music.
34:31
But
34:31
you're
34:32
not,
34:32
you
34:32
know.
34:33
You
34:33
know,
34:33
and
34:33
I
34:34
just,
34:34
I
34:34
just
34:34
thought
34:34
it
34:34
was
34:35
amazing.
34:36
And
34:36
she
34:36
is
34:36
in
34:36
a
34:37
new
34:37
band
34:37
now
34:38
called
34:39
the
34:39
Iron
34:39
Roses
34:40
who
34:40
are
34:41
fantastic.
34:41
Check
34:41
them
34:41
out.
34:42
But
34:42
at
34:42
the
34:42
time
34:43
that,
34:43
and
34:43
even,
34:44
even
34:44
up
34:44
till
34:44
recently,
34:45
you
34:45
know,
34:45
that
34:45
is
34:46
really
34:46
the
34:46
only
34:46
band
34:47
who
34:47
I
34:47
ever
34:48
saw
34:48
talk
34:49
about,
34:49
like
34:50
I
34:50
said,
34:50
mental
34:50
health
34:50
issues.
34:51
Not
34:51
just
34:52
sort
34:52
of
34:52
the
34:52
mental
34:53
health
34:53
umbrella,
34:54
but
34:55
some
34:55
personal
34:56
issues.
34:57
Right.
34:57
Some
34:58
personal
34:58
things
34:58
that
34:58
we're
34:58
dealing
34:59
with.
34:59
And
34:59
yeah,
35:00
I
35:00
just
35:00
think
35:00
it's,
35:01
you
35:01
know,
35:01
and
35:02
then
35:02
you
35:02
have
35:02
like
35:02
the,
35:03
you
35:04
know,
35:04
the
35:04
self,
35:05
self
35:05
destructive
35:06
like
35:06
arm
35:07
of
35:07
fun,
35:07
like
35:07
the
35:07
Gigi
35:08
Allen.
35:08
Right.
35:09
Stuff
35:10
which
35:10
I
35:11
never
35:11
got
35:11
into
35:11
myself.
35:12
I
35:12
don't
35:13
care
35:13
if
35:13
other
35:13
people
35:13
are
35:14
just.
35:14
It
35:14
never
35:14
just
35:15
rang
35:15
for
35:16
me.
35:16
I
35:16
think
35:16
we
35:17
all
35:17
give
35:17
a
35:17
lot
35:17
of
35:17
lip
35:18
service
35:18
to.
35:18
Hey,
35:19
if
35:19
you
35:19
ever
35:19
need
35:20
anything,
35:21
reach
35:21
out.
35:21
Like,
35:22
I
35:22
will
35:22
pick
35:22
up
35:22
the
35:22
phone,
35:23
I
35:23
will
35:23
be
35:23
there.
35:24
Tell
35:24
me
35:24
what
35:24
you
35:24
need
35:25
and
35:25
I
35:25
will
35:26
do
35:26
whatever
35:26
I
35:26
can
35:26
to
35:27
get
35:27
it
35:27
to
35:27
you.
35:27
And
35:28
I
35:28
believe
35:28
we
35:28
are
35:29
all
35:29
a
35:29
hundred
35:29
percent
35:30
honest
35:31
in,
35:31
in
35:32
saying
35:32
that.
35:33
But
35:33
when
35:33
it
35:33
gets
35:34
flipped
35:34
to
35:34
us,
35:35
like
35:35
us
35:35
asking
35:36
for
35:36
that
35:36
help,
35:37
it
35:37
becomes
35:38
real
35:39
hard
35:40
and,
35:40
and
35:40
real
35:41
difficult.
35:42
Yeah,
35:43
being
35:43
vulnerable
35:43
is
35:44
hard.
35:44
Yeah.
35:46
You
35:46
know,
35:46
and,
35:46
and,
35:47
and
35:47
God,
35:48
it
35:48
is
35:48
scary
35:49
and
35:49
it's,
35:49
and
35:50
it's
35:51
weird
35:51
to
35:51
me
35:52
because
35:52
you
35:52
know,
35:52
like
35:52
you
35:53
said,
35:53
you
35:53
know,
35:53
we
35:54
all
35:54
struggle,
35:54
you
35:55
know,
35:55
and
35:55
your
35:55
struggle
35:55
and
35:56
my
35:56
struggle
35:56
may
35:56
not
35:56
be
35:56
the
35:57
same,
35:57
but
35:57
it
35:58
might
35:58
be
35:58
the
35:58
same
35:58
as
35:59
a
36:00
kid
36:01
in
36:02
Fargo,
36:02
North
36:03
Dakota,
36:04
you
36:04
know,
36:04
it
36:04
might
36:04
be
36:04
the
36:05
same
36:05
as
36:05
somebody
36:05
in
36:06
San
36:06
Diego.
36:07
You
36:07
know,
36:07
it's
36:08
like
36:08
we
36:09
are
36:09
not,
36:09
you
36:09
know,
36:10
100
36:10
unique
36:11
creatures.
36:11
Like,
36:11
all
36:12
of
36:12
our
36:12
struggles
36:13
will
36:13
somehow
36:14
resonate
36:14
with
36:14
somebody
36:15
else
36:15
somewhere.
36:16
But.
36:16
Yeah,
36:17
but.
36:17
But
36:17
talking
36:17
about
36:18
them
36:18
and
36:18
speaking
36:18
about
36:19
them
36:19
is.
36:20
Is
36:21
challenging
36:22
and
36:22
actually.
36:22
And
36:23
actually
36:23
extending,
36:24
you
36:24
know,
36:24
that
36:25
hand
36:25
out
36:25
for
36:26
help.
36:26
And
36:27
part
36:27
of
36:27
it,
36:27
for
36:27
me,
36:28
part
36:28
of
36:28
it,
36:28
like,
36:28
I
36:29
blame.
36:30
I
36:30
blame
36:30
punk
36:31
for
36:31
not.
36:31
Not
36:31
necessarily
36:32
in
36:32
a
36:32
bad
36:33
way,
36:34
but,
36:34
you
36:34
know,
36:35
for
36:35
me,
36:35
I
36:35
very
36:35
much
36:36
dug
36:37
into
36:37
that
36:37
DIY
36:39
ethos.
36:40
And
36:40
for
36:40
me,
36:40
it's
36:41
like,
36:41
I
36:41
can
36:41
do
36:42
this
36:42
myself.
36:43
I
36:43
don't
36:43
need
36:44
help.
36:44
Like,
36:44
I've
36:45
done
36:45
all
36:45
these
36:46
things
36:46
my
36:46
entire
36:47
life
36:47
myself.
36:48
Sure,
36:49
I
36:49
grew
36:49
up
36:49
rough,
36:50
but
36:50
I
36:51
never
36:51
really
36:52
struggled
36:53
with
36:54
depression
36:54
or
36:54
anything.
36:55
Just
36:55
until
36:55
the
36:56
last
36:56
couple
36:57
years.
36:58
Like,
36:58
I
36:58
bought
36:59
into,
36:59
you
36:59
know,
36:59
the
37:00
PMA
37:00
mindset
37:01
and
37:01
positive
37:01
mental
37:01
attitude.
37:02
You
37:02
know.
37:02
You
37:02
know,
37:03
just
37:03
think
37:03
positively
37:04
and,
37:04
you
37:04
know,
37:04
I
37:05
had
37:05
my
37:05
times
37:05
where
37:05
I.
37:05
Or
37:06
I
37:06
would
37:06
struggle,
37:06
but
37:06
it
37:07
would
37:07
never,
37:07
never
37:07
last
37:08
really
37:08
long.
37:09
Yeah.
37:09
But
37:09
then,
37:09
you
37:09
know,
37:10
a
37:10
couple
37:10
years
37:10
ago,
37:12
I
37:12
did
37:12
fall
37:12
into
37:12
this
37:13
bout
37:13
of
37:13
depression.
37:14
And
37:15
like,
37:15
once
37:16
I
37:16
realized
37:17
I
37:17
was
37:18
depressed,
37:19
which
37:19
took
37:20
a
37:20
while,
37:21
you
37:21
know,
37:21
just
37:21
made
37:22
this
37:22
sort
37:22
of
37:22
conscious
37:22
effort
37:23
of.
37:23
Of.
37:24
And
37:24
conscious
37:24
decision
37:25
of.
37:25
Okay.
37:26
Like,
37:26
I
37:26
need
37:26
to
37:27
somehow
37:27
be
37:28
honest
37:28
with
37:28
this.
37:29
Yeah.
37:30
You
37:30
know,
37:30
and
37:30
let
37:30
people
37:31
know
37:31
that
37:31
this,
37:32
like,
37:32
this
37:32
is
37:32
a
37:32
thing
37:32
and
37:33
it's
37:33
okay.
37:34
I
37:34
mean,
37:34
it
37:34
sucks,
37:34
but.
37:35
Right.
37:36
You
37:36
know,
37:36
it's
37:37
okay
37:37
to
37:37
talk
37:37
about
37:38
it.
37:38
It's
37:38
okay
37:38
to
37:38
let
37:38
people
37:39
know
37:39
about
37:39
it,
37:40
you
37:40
know,
37:40
because
37:40
again,
37:41
you
37:41
don't
37:41
want
37:41
to
37:41
be
37:41
burdened
37:42
because
37:42
again,
37:43
we're
37:43
all
37:43
dealing
37:43
with
37:43
something.
37:44
Yeah.
37:44
You
37:45
know,
37:45
so
37:45
it's
37:45
like,
37:45
you
37:45
know,
37:46
you're
37:46
dealing
37:46
with,
37:47
you
37:47
know,
37:47
everything
37:47
you're
37:48
dealing
37:48
with.
37:48
I
37:48
don't
37:48
want
37:49
to.
37:49
I
37:49
don't
37:49
want
37:49
to
37:49
put
37:49
my
37:49
problems
37:50
on
37:50
you,
37:51
or
37:51
it's
37:52
feeling
37:52
like,
37:52
hey,
37:52
no,
37:53
like.
37:54
Like
37:54
nobody's
37:54
dealt
37:55
with
37:55
this
37:55
the
37:55
way
37:55
I'm
37:56
dealing
37:56
with
37:56
it.
37:56
So
37:57
nobody's
37:57
going
37:57
to
37:57
really
37:57
understand
37:59
how
37:59
I
38:00
feel.
38:01
Because.
38:01
Because
38:02
this
38:02
is
38:02
my
38:02
unique
38:03
struggle.
38:03
And
38:04
so
38:04
nobody's
38:04
going
38:04
to
38:04
understand
38:05
how.
38:06
What
38:06
my
38:06
unique
38:06
struggle
38:07
is
38:07
or
38:08
also,
38:08
you
38:09
know,
38:09
again,
38:10
just
38:10
the
38:10
stigma
38:10
attached
38:11
to
38:11
it.
38:11
Right.
38:11
Like,
38:12
because
38:13
as
38:13
much
38:13
as
38:13
it
38:14
has
38:14
become
38:14
more
38:14
of
38:15
the
38:15
norm,
38:16
you
38:16
know,
38:16
there's
38:16
still
38:17
very
38:17
much
38:17
a
38:17
stigma
38:18
attached
38:18
to
38:18
it.
38:18
Yeah.
38:19
Yeah.
38:20
To.
38:21
Is.
38:22
It's
38:22
tough
38:23
because
38:24
like
38:24
you
38:24
said,
38:24
there's
38:25
this
38:25
part
38:25
of
38:25
us
38:25
that's
38:26
like,
38:26
I
38:26
can
38:26
Handle
38:26
this.
38:27
I
38:27
can
38:27
do
38:28
this
38:28
on
38:29
my
38:29
own.
38:29
I
38:30
got
38:30
this
38:31
because
38:31
that's
38:31
what
38:31
you're
38:31
doing.
38:32
Used
38:32
to
38:32
doing,
38:32
you
38:32
know,
38:34
and
38:34
while
38:34
my,
38:35
My
38:35
upbringing
38:35
was.
38:36
I
38:36
don't
38:37
want
38:37
to
38:37
say
38:37
it
38:37
was
38:37
rough.
38:37
I
38:37
mean,
38:38
I
38:38
grew
38:38
up
38:38
poor.
38:38
I
38:38
grew
38:39
up
38:39
in
38:39
a
38:39
trailer
38:40
and
38:40
with
38:41
half
38:41
the
38:41
floors
38:42
missing
38:42
and
38:42
we
38:42
had
38:42
wild
38:43
animals
38:43
in
38:43
our
38:43
house
38:44
half
38:44
the
38:44
time.
38:44
But
38:45
we
38:45
always
38:45
had
38:46
food,
38:46
we
38:46
always
38:46
had
38:47
clothes.
38:48
You
38:48
know,
38:48
I
38:48
was
38:48
never
38:48
homeless
38:49
or
38:49
anything
38:50
and.
38:51
But
38:52
I
38:52
got
38:52
out
38:52
of
38:52
that
38:53
and
38:53
then
38:53
just
38:53
started
38:53
trying
38:54
to.
38:54
To
38:54
work
38:54
hard.
38:55
But
38:55
that
38:55
was
38:55
really
38:55
tough
38:56
because
38:57
that
38:57
was
38:57
isolating
38:58
and
38:58
away
38:58
from
38:58
me
38:58
at
38:59
a
38:59
young
38:59
age
38:59
because,
39:00
you
39:00
know,
39:00
couldn't
39:00
have
39:01
folks
39:01
over,
39:01
couldn't
39:02
have
39:02
friends,
39:02
and
39:03
that
39:03
made
39:03
that
39:03
kind
39:03
of
39:04
challenging.
39:04
So
39:04
I
39:05
dealt
39:05
with
39:05
some
39:06
depressive
39:07
thoughts,
39:07
I
39:07
think,
39:08
pretty
39:08
early
39:08
on
39:09
in
39:09
my
39:09
teens
39:10
of
39:10
that
39:10
isolation
39:11
and
39:12
feeling,
39:12
especially
39:13
in
39:13
my
39:13
situation
39:14
where
39:15
I
39:15
luckily
39:16
did
39:16
have
39:16
a
39:16
couple
39:16
friends
39:17
that
39:17
were.
39:17
Were
39:18
similar,
39:18
I
39:19
will
39:19
say,
39:19
as
39:19
far
39:20
as
39:20
interests,
39:20
but
39:21
in
39:21
a
39:21
very
39:21
small
39:23
pond.
39:23
You
39:24
know,
39:24
I
39:24
was.
39:25
I
39:25
was
39:25
one
39:25
of
39:25
the
39:25
very
39:26
odd
39:26
ones
39:26
out
39:26
and
39:27
it
39:27
felt
39:27
very
39:27
isolating
39:28
at
39:28
times.
39:28
But
39:30
the
39:30
music,
39:30
the
39:31
community
39:31
I
39:31
found
39:32
through
39:32
music
39:32
and
39:33
all
39:33
of
39:33
that
39:34
just
39:34
really
39:34
helped.
39:35
And,
39:36
you
39:37
know,
39:37
I
39:37
could
39:37
talk
39:37
to
39:38
some
39:38
people
39:38
about
39:38
it,
39:39
but
39:40
there's.
39:41
I
39:41
think
39:41
we
39:42
worry.
39:43
I
39:43
do
39:43
think
39:44
there's
39:44
this
39:44
part
39:44
of
39:44
us
39:44
that
39:45
especially
39:45
as
39:46
guys,
39:46
especially,
39:46
I
39:47
think
39:47
it's
39:47
probably
39:47
more
39:47
prevalent
39:49
that
39:50
we
39:50
are
39:50
afraid
39:51
by
39:51
sharing
39:51
this
39:52
that
39:52
we
39:52
are
39:52
going
39:52
to
39:53
think
39:53
that
39:53
people
39:54
think
39:55
we're
39:55
less
39:56
or
39:57
weaker
39:57
or
39:58
whatever.
39:58
And
39:59
that's
40:00
what.
40:00
That's
40:00
kind
40:00
of
40:00
your
40:01
ego
40:01
in
40:01
your
40:01
brain,
40:02
you
40:02
know,
40:02
if
40:02
you,
40:03
if
40:03
you're
40:03
into
40:03
like
40:04
that
40:04
stuff
40:04
at
40:04
all,
40:05
that's
40:05
something
40:05
in
40:05
your
40:05
brain
40:06
like,
40:06
oh,
40:06
no,
40:06
you
40:07
don't
40:07
need
40:07
this.
40:07
You
40:07
got
40:08
this
40:08
yourself.
40:08
And
40:09
sometimes
40:09
you
40:10
do
40:10
need
40:10
help.
40:10
You
40:11
just
40:11
do.
40:11
And
40:12
you
40:12
need
40:12
an
40:12
outside
40:12
perspective.
40:14
And
40:14
sometimes,
40:15
dude,
40:15
even
40:15
just
40:16
venting
40:16
and
40:17
just
40:17
saying
40:18
just
40:18
verbal
40:18
diarrhea
40:19
of
40:19
all
40:20
the
40:20
shit
40:20
that's
40:20
going
40:20
on
40:20
in
40:21
your
40:21
life
40:22
can
40:23
lighten
40:23
the
40:24
load.
40:25
I'm
40:25
very
40:25
fortunate
40:26
in
40:26
that
40:26
I
40:26
have,
40:27
you
40:27
know,
40:27
my
40:28
wife
40:28
Gloria,
40:28
my
40:29
partner.
40:29
We've
40:29
been
40:29
together
40:29
almost
40:30
20
40:30
years.
40:31
So
40:31
that's
40:31
a
40:32
really
40:32
freaking
40:32
long
40:33
time.
40:33
And
40:33
we've
40:33
grown
40:34
up
40:34
together
40:34
and
40:34
we've
40:34
been
40:34
through
40:35
a
40:35
lot
40:35
together.
40:36
And
40:36
the
40:36
things
40:37
that
40:37
we've
40:37
tackled
40:38
together,
40:38
I
40:38
couldn't
40:39
imagine
40:39
doing
40:39
with
40:39
anyone
40:40
else.
40:40
You
40:40
know,
40:40
I'm
40:41
very
40:41
fortunate
40:41
to,
40:42
to
40:42
have
40:42
that.
40:42
So
40:43
I
40:43
do
40:43
have
40:43
an
40:43
outlet
40:44
there.
40:45
And
40:46
I
40:46
have
40:46
some
40:46
other
40:46
friends
40:47
that
40:47
I've
40:47
known
40:48
for,
40:48
you
40:48
know,
40:48
20
40:48
plus
40:49
years
40:49
that
40:50
it's
40:50
mostly
40:51
like,
40:51
you
40:51
know,
40:51
just
40:52
kind
40:52
of.
40:53
We
40:54
just
40:54
BS
40:54
with
40:54
each
40:55
other
40:55
and
40:55
chats.
40:55
But
40:56
every
40:56
now
40:56
and
40:56
then
40:56
it's
40:57
like
40:57
when
40:57
real
40:57
happens,
40:58
you
40:58
know,
40:58
we
40:58
can
40:58
do
40:58
it
40:59
and
40:59
we
40:59
can
40:59
kind
41:00
of
41:00
talk
41:00
about
41:00
it
41:00
and
41:01
express
41:01
it
41:01
and
41:02
give
41:02
each
41:02
other
41:02
that
41:03
space.
41:04
So
41:05
I
41:05
guess
41:06
my
41:06
point
41:07
there
41:07
is
41:07
I
41:07
would
41:07
encourage
41:08
people
41:09
to
41:09
not
41:10
be
41:10
afraid
41:11
to
41:11
go
41:12
to
41:12
someone
41:13
because
41:13
I
41:14
think
41:14
more
41:15
people
41:15
are
41:16
open
41:16
and
41:16
receptive
41:17
than
41:18
you
41:18
think.
41:18
And
41:19
I
41:19
think
41:19
more
41:19
people
41:19
are
41:20
going
41:20
to
41:20
be
41:20
willing
41:20
to
41:21
be
41:21
there
41:21
for
41:21
you.
41:22
And
41:22
I
41:22
think
41:22
those
41:23
really
41:23
hard
41:23
and
41:23
challenging
41:24
times
41:24
as
41:24
a
41:24
human
41:25
being
41:25
that
41:25
we
41:26
all
41:26
have,
41:27
all
41:28
of
41:28
us,
41:28
every
41:28
single
41:29
one
41:29
of
41:29
us.
41:29
I
41:29
don't
41:30
know,
41:30
there
41:30
might
41:30
be
41:30
some
41:30
of
41:30
us
41:30
out
41:31
there
41:31
that
41:31
I
41:32
don't
41:32
think
41:32
feel
41:32
any
41:32
sort
41:33
of
41:33
empathy,
41:33
fear,
41:33
emotion
41:34
at
41:34
this
41:34
point,
41:34
just
41:35
based
41:35
on
41:35
what
41:35
I
41:35
see
41:36
in
41:36
the
41:36
news
41:36
and.
41:37
But
41:37
yeah,
41:38
for
41:38
the
41:39
most
41:39
part,
41:39
we
41:39
all,
41:40
especially
41:41
I
41:41
should
41:41
say
41:41
in
41:41
music,
41:42
I
41:42
think
41:42
musicians
41:43
naturally
41:43
are.
41:44
And
41:44
creators
41:44
are
41:44
more
41:45
empathetic,
41:46
more
41:46
open,
41:47
more
41:47
dialed
41:47
into
41:48
the
41:48
emotional
41:48
side
41:49
of
41:49
things
41:49
and
41:49
understanding
41:50
that.
41:51
So
41:51
I
41:51
would
41:51
encourage
41:52
everyone,
41:54
don't
41:54
be
41:54
afraid.
41:56
Go
41:56
to
41:56
someone.
41:58
Go
41:58
to
41:58
me.
41:58
Go
41:58
to.
41:59
To
41:59
bo.
41:59
Go
41:59
to
41:59
whoever.
42:00
We.
42:00
I
42:00
promise
42:01
you,
42:01
like
42:01
I'm.
42:02
I'm
42:02
always
42:03
down
42:03
to
42:03
listen.
42:04
I
42:05
don't
42:05
have
42:05
all
42:05
the
42:05
answers.
42:06
I
42:06
have
42:07
maybe
42:07
some
42:07
of
42:07
the
42:08
answers,
42:08
maybe.
42:09
Probably
42:09
none
42:09
of
42:09
them.
42:10
But
42:10
I
42:10
would
42:11
much
42:11
rather
42:11
listen.
42:11
And
42:12
I
42:12
do
42:12
mean
42:12
that.
42:12
And
42:13
I
42:13
guess
42:14
that's
42:14
my
42:14
PSA
42:14
right
42:15
there
42:15
is
42:15
like,
42:15
don't
42:15
be
42:15
afraid.
42:16
We,
42:17
we
42:17
should
42:17
be
42:17
okay
42:17
talking
42:18
with
42:18
each
42:18
other
42:18
because
42:19
life
42:20
is
42:20
really
42:20
hard.
42:21
Life
42:21
is
42:22
weird.
42:22
Yeah.
42:23
Life
42:23
is
42:23
crazy.
42:24
You're.
42:24
You
42:24
never
42:24
know
42:25
what's
42:25
gonna
42:25
happen.
42:27
And
42:28
it,
42:29
it,
42:29
you
42:29
know,
42:30
it
42:30
doesn't
42:30
stop
42:31
for,
42:31
for
42:31
anyone
42:32
really.
42:32
So
42:32
we're
42:32
all
42:33
going
42:33
through
42:33
this.
42:33
We're
42:33
all
42:34
on
42:34
the
42:34
same
42:34
little
42:35
blue
42:35
marble
42:36
spinning
42:36
around.
42:37
You
42:37
know,
42:38
we're
42:38
all
42:38
human.
42:39
We're
42:39
all
42:39
human
42:39
beings.
42:40
Even
42:41
if
42:41
you
42:41
know
42:41
somebody,
42:42
you
42:43
know,
42:43
another
42:43
country
42:44
is
42:45
looking
42:45
at
42:45
this
42:46
and
42:46
maybe
42:46
they
42:46
don't
42:46
even
42:47
speak
42:47
English,
42:48
they
42:48
still
42:48
feel
42:49
the
42:49
same
42:49
emotions.
42:50
But
42:50
do.
42:50
To
42:50
your
42:50
point
42:50
earlier,
42:51
everyone,
42:52
that's
42:52
a,
42:52
That's
42:53
a
42:53
human
42:53
thing.
42:53
We
42:53
all
42:54
share
42:54
these
42:54
emotions.
42:55
No
42:55
matter
42:55
what
42:56
language
42:56
you
42:56
speak,
42:56
no
42:57
matter
42:57
where
42:57
you
42:57
come
42:57
from,
42:57
no
42:58
matter
42:58
your
42:58
background,
42:58
we
42:59
all
42:59
have
42:59
this.
43:00
So
43:00
don't
43:01
be
43:01
afraid.
43:03
You're.
43:03
It's
43:03
going
43:04
to
43:04
be
43:04
scary
43:04
as.
43:05
Because
43:06
you
43:06
have
43:07
all
43:07
this
43:07
doubt.
43:08
But
43:08
I
43:09
promise
43:10
that
43:12
sharing
43:12
with
43:13
someone
43:14
does
43:15
lighten
43:15
the
43:15
load.
43:16
Even
43:16
if
43:16
they
43:17
don't
43:17
have
43:17
anything
43:18
else
43:18
to
43:18
offer
43:18
you
43:18
other
43:19
than
43:19
a
43:19
listening
43:19
ear.
43:20
Like
43:21
it'll.
43:21
You
43:22
will
43:22
feel
43:22
better.
43:23
And
43:23
sometimes
43:24
just
43:24
saying
43:24
the
43:24
thing
43:25
out
43:25
loud,
43:27
you
43:27
hear
43:27
it
43:27
differently
43:28
because
43:29
you've
43:29
been
43:29
internalizing
43:30
it
43:30
in
43:30
your
43:30
brain.
43:31
Saying
43:31
the
43:32
Words
43:32
out
43:32
loud
43:33
for
43:34
me
43:34
a
43:34
lot
43:34
of
43:35
times
43:35
helps
43:35
me
43:35
go,
43:35
oh,
43:36
okay.
43:36
Like,
43:37
I
43:38
see
43:38
this
43:38
differently
43:38
now
43:39
that
43:39
I've
43:39
actually
43:39
said
43:40
it.
43:40
I've
43:41
actually
43:41
wrote
43:41
verbalize
43:42
these
43:42
thoughts
43:43
and
43:44
it,
43:44
it
43:45
puts
43:45
me,
43:45
it
43:45
gives
43:45
me
43:45
a
43:46
different
43:46
perception
43:47
of
43:47
it,
43:47
I
43:48
guess.
43:48
Long,
43:49
long
43:49
rant
43:50
over.
43:52
Well,
43:53
I
43:53
think
43:53
you
43:53
hit
43:53
on
43:54
a
43:54
couple
43:54
good
43:54
things.
43:55
Is
43:55
one
43:56
just
43:56
sharing.
43:57
That's
43:57
one
43:57
of
43:58
the
43:58
things
43:58
I
43:59
did
44:00
and
44:00
do.
44:01
Because
44:01
sometimes
44:01
I
44:01
don't
44:02
want
44:02
feedback.
44:03
Like,
44:03
I
44:03
just,
44:03
I
44:04
just
44:04
need
44:04
to
44:05
get
44:05
what's
44:05
in
44:06
out.
44:06
And
44:07
so
44:07
I'll,
44:07
you
44:07
know,
44:08
I'll
44:08
get
44:08
with
44:08
somebody.
44:08
I'm
44:08
like,
44:09
look,
44:09
I
44:09
just
44:10
need
44:10
to
44:10
talk
44:11
and
44:11
I
44:11
don't
44:11
want
44:12
any
44:12
feedback.
44:13
Like,
44:13
I,
44:14
and
44:14
I
44:14
know
44:14
you're
44:14
going
44:14
to
44:14
want
44:15
to
44:15
help
44:15
me
44:15
problem
44:15
solve
44:16
this.
44:16
I
44:16
don't
44:16
want
44:17
to
44:17
problem
44:17
solve
44:17
right
44:18
now.
44:18
I
44:18
just
44:18
need
44:19
to
44:19
get
44:19
everything
44:20
that's
44:20
in
44:21
out,
44:21
you
44:22
know,
44:22
and
44:22
that's,
44:22
that's
44:23
been
44:23
very
44:23
helpful
44:24
for
44:24
me.
44:24
And
44:24
then,
44:25
and
44:25
just
44:26
depending
44:26
on
44:26
the
44:26
person,
44:26
like,
44:27
you
44:27
know,
44:27
they'll
44:27
let
44:27
me
44:27
get
44:27
everything
44:28
out.
44:28
And
44:28
then,
44:28
you
44:28
know,
44:28
some
44:29
will
44:29
say,
44:29
okay,
44:30
well
44:30
do
44:30
you
44:30
want
44:30
feedback
44:31
now
44:31
or
44:31
do
44:32
you
44:32
want
44:32
to
44:32
talk
44:32
about
44:32
it?
44:32
Right,
44:33
right.
44:33
You
44:34
know,
44:34
sometimes
44:34
I'll
44:34
like,
44:35
yeah,
44:36
yeah,
44:36
now
44:36
I'm
44:37
ready
44:37
for
44:37
feedback.
44:38
I
44:38
wasn't
44:38
ready
44:39
then,
44:39
I'm
44:40
ready
44:40
now.
44:41
And
44:41
sometimes
44:41
it's
44:42
just
44:42
like,
44:42
you
44:42
know
44:42
what?
44:42
No,
44:43
like
44:43
I
44:43
just
44:43
needed
44:44
to
44:44
get
44:44
it
44:44
out.
44:45
It's
44:45
out
44:45
and
44:46
I'm
44:46
good.
44:47
Thank
44:47
you
44:47
for
44:48
listening.
44:48
Yeah.
44:48
And
44:49
I
44:49
think
44:49
people
44:50
need
44:50
to
44:50
realize
44:51
that
44:51
there
44:51
are
44:51
so
44:52
many
44:52
people
44:52
who
44:52
are
44:53
just
44:53
willing
44:54
to
44:54
listen.
44:54
Yes.
44:55
You
44:56
know,
44:56
and
44:56
it
44:56
is.
44:57
And
44:57
it
44:57
is
44:57
important
44:58
to
44:59
get
44:59
it
44:59
out.
45:00
And
45:00
also
45:00
for
45:00
me,
45:01
like,
45:01
music
45:01
is,
45:02
is
45:02
a
45:02
huge
45:02
release
45:03
for
45:03
me.
45:03
Yes.
45:04
100,
45:05
100,
45:05
100.
45:06
It's
45:07
such
45:07
an
45:07
outlet
45:08
for
45:08
so
45:08
many
45:09
different
45:09
emotions
45:10
or
45:11
whatever
45:11
you're
45:11
going
45:12
through.
45:12
I
45:13
can't
45:13
tell
45:13
you
45:13
how
45:13
many
45:14
days
45:14
have
45:14
been
45:14
like,
45:15
shit
45:15
days.
45:16
And
45:16
I
45:16
can
45:16
pick
45:16
up
45:16
a
45:17
guitar
45:17
or
45:18
sit
45:18
at
45:18
a
45:18
keyboard
45:19
or
45:19
pick
45:19
up
45:19
the
45:20
banjo
45:20
or
45:20
whatever
45:21
and
45:22
just
45:22
pluck
45:22
around
45:23
and
45:23
I
45:24
start
45:24
to
45:24
feel
45:24
that
45:24
stuff
45:25
melt
45:25
away.
45:25
You
45:26
know,
45:26
it's
45:26
just,
45:26
it,
45:27
it
45:27
kind
45:27
of
45:27
resets
45:28
something
45:29
to,
45:29
to
45:30
do
45:30
that.
45:30
And
45:31
whether
45:32
it's
45:32
lyrics
45:33
or,
45:33
or
45:34
whatever,
45:34
like
45:35
expressing
45:35
yourself
45:36
in
45:36
some
45:37
form
45:37
or
45:37
fashion,
45:38
I
45:38
think
45:38
it's
45:38
just
45:39
beneficial
45:39
for
45:39
everyone.
45:40
Oh,
45:40
definitely.
45:41
Yeah.
45:42
On
45:42
one
45:42
of
45:42
the,
45:43
one
45:44
of
45:44
the
45:44
other
45:44
people
45:45
I
45:45
interviewed,
45:46
again,
45:46
just
45:46
talking
45:46
about
45:47
sort
45:47
of
45:47
depression
45:47
and
45:47
being
45:48
overwhelmed
45:48
and
45:49
all
45:49
that
45:50
stuff,
45:50
we
45:51
were
45:51
talking
45:51
about
45:52
tools
45:52
that
45:53
we
45:53
use
45:53
to
45:54
help.
45:54
Help
45:55
us
45:55
work
45:55
through
45:55
it.
45:55
And
45:56
so,
45:56
so
45:56
she
45:57
and
45:57
I,
45:58
she's
45:58
from
45:58
Colorado,
45:59
she
45:59
named
45:59
Sarah.
46:00
She
46:00
and
46:00
I,
46:00
we
46:00
We
46:00
crafted
46:01
during,
46:01
during
46:02
this
46:02
interview
46:02
and
46:03
we
46:03
made.
46:04
She
46:04
called
46:04
them
46:05
cootie
46:05
catchers.
46:06
I
46:06
grew
46:06
up
46:06
calling
46:07
them
46:07
fortune
46:07
tellers.
46:08
I
46:08
know
46:08
what
46:09
you're
46:09
talking
46:09
about.
46:09
Yeah,
46:10
the
46:10
little
46:10
four.
46:10
Yeah.
46:12
Right,
46:12
right.
46:13
Yeah.
46:13
So,
46:13
so
46:14
we
46:14
crafted
46:14
those
46:14
during
46:15
our
46:16
conversation
46:16
interview,
46:17
whatever.
46:17
And
46:18
what
46:18
she
46:18
uses
46:18
them
46:19
for
46:19
is
46:20
like,
46:20
under
46:20
each,
46:21
like,
46:21
flap
46:21
you
46:21
would
46:21
open,
46:22
she
46:22
divides
46:23
it
46:24
in
46:24
half.
46:25
So,
46:25
so
46:25
half
46:25
of
46:26
the
46:26
flaps
46:27
are
46:27
tasks
46:28
that
46:28
need
46:28
to
46:28
be
46:28
completed
46:29
and
46:30
broken
46:30
down
46:30
into
46:31
like
46:32
10
46:32
minute
46:32
sections.
46:34
So,
46:34
so
46:34
if
46:35
the
46:35
entire
46:35
kitchen
46:35
needs
46:36
to
46:36
be
46:36
cleaned,
46:37
but
46:37
that's
46:37
overwhelming
46:38
for
46:38
you,
46:39
it's
46:39
like,
46:39
okay,
46:40
like,
46:41
clean
46:41
the
46:41
counters,
46:42
clean
46:43
the
46:43
dishes,
46:44
you
46:44
know,
46:44
sweep,
46:45
you
46:45
know,
46:45
just
46:46
broken
46:46
down
46:46
into
46:46
really
46:47
small
46:47
tasks.
46:48
And
46:48
then
46:48
the
46:48
other
46:49
half
46:49
of
46:49
the
46:49
flaps
46:50
are
46:51
like
46:51
fun,
46:52
fun
46:52
rewards
46:53
again,
46:53
you
46:53
know,
46:53
broken
46:54
down
46:54
into
46:54
like,
46:54
you
46:54
know,
46:55
10,
46:55
15
46:56
minute
46:56
chunks.
46:58
And
46:58
you
46:58
never
46:59
know
46:59
what
46:59
you're
46:59
going
46:59
to
46:59
get.
46:59
So
47:00
it
47:00
could
47:00
be,
47:00
okay,
47:00
I
47:01
have
47:01
to
47:01
do
47:01
a
47:01
task.
47:01
Now
47:01
I
47:02
have
47:02
a
47:02
fun
47:02
thing
47:02
to
47:02
do.
47:02
Or
47:02
it's
47:03
like,
47:03
oh,
47:03
task,
47:03
oh,
47:04
another
47:04
task.
47:04
Oh,
47:04
another
47:05
task.
47:05
Oh,
47:05
now
47:05
I
47:06
get
47:06
a
47:06
fun
47:06
thing.
47:06
Right.
47:07
But
47:07
it
47:07
breaks
47:08
it
47:08
down
47:08
into
47:09
more
47:09
manageable.
47:10
Yeah,
47:11
digestive,
47:11
Digestible
47:12
bites
47:12
is
47:13
what
47:13
I
47:13
call
47:13
that.
47:14
Right.
47:15
But,
47:15
but
47:16
even
47:16
doing
47:16
that,
47:16
you
47:16
know,
47:17
going
47:17
back
47:17
to
47:18
sort
47:18
of
47:18
what
47:18
we
47:18
talked
47:19
about,
47:19
about
47:19
music.
47:19
Right.
47:19
That
47:20
is
47:20
still
47:20
being,
47:21
is
47:21
being
47:21
creat
47:24
dysfunction.
47:24
Yes.
47:25
Oh,
47:25
I
47:26
don't
47:26
have
47:26
it
47:26
sitting
47:26
here.
47:27
Oh,
47:27
yeah,
47:28
it's
47:28
right
47:28
here.
47:28
Right.
47:29
So.
47:29
Oh,
47:29
nice.
47:30
Right.
47:30
So
47:31
you
47:31
know,
47:31
and
47:31
we
47:32
color
47:32
them
47:32
and,
47:33
or
47:33
she,
47:34
we
47:34
colored
47:35
it,
47:35
you
47:35
know,
47:36
put
47:36
like
47:36
designs
47:36
on
47:37
it.
47:37
So
47:37
again,
47:37
it's
47:37
not
47:37
just
47:38
folding
47:38
this
47:38
thing.
47:39
It's,
47:39
it's
47:41
being
47:41
creative
47:42
as
47:43
well.
47:43
So
47:43
it's
47:43
still,
47:43
even
47:44
if
47:44
it's
47:44
just
47:44
creating
47:45
something
47:45
for
47:45
yourself
47:45
to
47:46
enjoy
47:47
or
47:47
for
47:48
yourself
47:48
to
47:48
cope.
47:49
And
47:50
I
47:50
think,
47:50
I
47:50
think
47:50
that's
47:50
the
47:50
other
47:51
piece
47:51
of
47:51
it
47:51
too,
47:52
is
47:53
figuring
47:54
out
47:54
and
47:55
being
47:55
aware
47:56
of,
47:57
like,
47:57
what
47:57
gets
47:58
you
47:58
out
47:58
of
47:58
bed
47:58
in
47:58
the
47:59
morning,
47:59
you
47:59
know,
48:00
and,
48:00
and,
48:00
and
48:00
what
48:01
gives
48:01
you
48:01
hope?
48:02
Because
48:02
I
48:02
think
48:02
when
48:02
we
48:03
are
48:03
sort
48:04
of
48:04
at
48:04
our
48:04
most,
48:05
whatever,
48:06
it's,
48:07
it's
48:07
hard
48:07
to,
48:07
to
48:08
see
48:08
that,
48:08
to
48:08
see
48:09
that
48:09
light.
48:10
It's
48:11
very,
48:11
very
48:12
hard
48:12
to
48:12
see
48:12
that
48:12
light.
48:13
And
48:13
I,
48:13
I
48:14
strongly
48:14
believe
48:14
that
48:15
light's
48:15
always
48:15
there,
48:16
even
48:16
if
48:16
we,
48:17
even
48:17
if
48:17
we
48:17
can't
48:18
always
48:18
see
48:18
it.
48:18
I,
48:19
I
48:20
firmly
48:20
believe
48:20
that
48:21
black
48:21
light
48:21
is
48:21
always
48:22
there.
48:23
It's
48:23
just,
48:24
you
48:24
know,
48:24
and
48:24
for
48:24
some
48:25
of
48:25
us,
48:25
it's
48:25
a
48:25
lot
48:26
harder
48:26
to
48:26
see
48:26
it
48:26
or
48:27
even
48:27
to
48:28
believe
48:28
it
48:28
exists
48:29
than
48:29
for
48:30
others.
48:30
I
48:30
want
48:30
to
48:30
share
48:31
something,
48:31
please.
48:32
And
48:32
this
48:32
is,
48:32
I,
48:33
I
48:33
know
48:34
it's
48:34
ridiculous
48:35
because
48:35
it's,
48:36
it
48:36
just
48:36
is.
48:36
But
48:37
I,
48:37
I,
48:38
it's
48:39
relative
48:40
about
48:41
20,
48:43
2017
48:45
or
48:45
maybe
48:46
it
48:46
was
48:46
2018,
48:46
I
48:47
can't
48:47
remember.
48:48
You've.
48:48
You've
48:49
heard
48:49
of
48:49
Andrew
48:49
W.K.
48:49
the
48:50
musician?
48:50
I'm
48:50
sure
48:51
everybody
48:52
knows
48:52
Andrew
48:52
W.K.
48:53
for,
48:53
you
48:53
know,
48:53
the
48:54
party
48:54
songs.
48:54
Right.
48:54
And
48:55
all
48:55
that
48:55
stuff.
48:56
Right.
48:56
So
48:57
some
48:57
fun.
48:58
But
48:58
he's
48:58
also
48:58
a
48:59
really
48:59
awesome.
48:59
From
49:00
what
49:00
I've
49:00
heard.
49:00
Yes.
49:01
I've
49:01
never
49:01
had
49:01
a
49:01
chance
49:02
to
49:02
meet
49:02
him,
49:02
but
49:04
he
49:04
also,
49:05
he
49:05
also
49:05
did
49:05
motivational
49:06
speaking
49:07
tours
49:07
as
49:07
well.
49:08
Well,
49:08
that
49:08
was
49:08
part
49:08
of
49:09
something
49:09
that
49:09
he
49:09
did
49:10
because
49:10
he
49:11
just
49:11
has
49:11
this
49:11
zest
49:12
for
49:12
life.
49:13
And
49:13
maybe
49:14
when
49:14
he
49:14
was
49:14
younger
49:15
the
49:15
party
49:15
thing
49:15
was
49:16
like
49:16
the
49:16
thing.
49:16
But
49:17
as
49:17
he
49:17
got
49:17
older,
49:18
the
49:19
word
49:19
party
49:19
became
49:20
interchangeable
49:20
with
49:21
just
49:21
like
49:21
enjoying
49:22
life,
49:22
living
49:23
life,
49:23
not
49:23
necessarily
49:24
like
49:24
going
49:24
out
49:24
and
49:24
getting
49:25
blasted.
49:25
So
49:26
the
49:26
party
49:27
thing
49:27
was
49:28
almost
49:28
like
49:28
this.
49:29
Anyways,
49:30
he
49:30
released
49:30
an
49:30
album
49:31
called
49:32
you're
49:32
not
49:32
alone.
49:33
And
49:33
like
49:33
20,
49:34
2016,
49:34
2017,
49:35
2018,
49:35
something
49:35
like
49:36
that.
49:38
It's
49:38
definitely
49:38
got
49:39
some
49:39
cornball
49:39
stuff
49:40
on
49:40
it.
49:40
But
49:40
some
49:40
of
49:41
those
49:41
messages
49:41
on
49:41
there,
49:43
I
49:43
found
49:43
them
49:43
at
49:43
a
49:44
time,
49:45
one
49:45
of
49:45
the
49:46
probably
49:46
the
49:46
darkest
49:47
times
49:47
of
49:47
my
49:47
life
49:47
where
49:49
I
49:49
was,
49:50
I
49:50
was
49:51
working
49:51
almost.
49:52
I
49:52
mean
49:52
I
49:52
worked
49:53
a
49:53
day,
49:53
every
49:53
day
49:53
for
49:54
a
49:54
month
49:54
straight
49:54
with
49:55
no
49:55
breaks.
49:55
I
49:55
was
49:55
a
49:55
store
49:56
manager
49:56
at
49:56
a
49:56
guitar
49:57
center
49:57
in
49:57
Florida
49:58
at
49:58
the
49:58
Point.
49:59
And
50:00
I
50:00
was
50:00
working
50:00
my
50:01
ass
50:01
off.
50:01
Things
50:02
at
50:02
work
50:02
weren't
50:02
going
50:02
good,
50:03
things
50:04
at
50:04
home
50:04
weren't
50:05
going
50:05
super
50:05
great.
50:05
I
50:06
was
50:06
not
50:06
being
50:07
the
50:07
best
50:07
that
50:07
I
50:07
could
50:08
be.
50:08
My
50:09
daughter
50:09
was
50:09
very
50:10
young
50:10
at
50:10
the
50:10
time.
50:11
So
50:11
you
50:12
know,
50:12
having
50:12
a
50:12
young
50:12
child,
50:13
I
50:13
know
50:13
you,
50:14
you
50:14
know
50:14
what
50:14
that's
50:14
like
50:15
with
50:15
those
50:15
early
50:15
years.
50:16
It's.
50:16
It's
50:16
really.
50:17
Can
50:17
be
50:17
really
50:17
tricky
50:18
sometimes.
50:19
You
50:19
kind
50:19
of
50:19
lose
50:19
yourself
50:20
sometimes
50:20
and
50:21
have
50:21
a
50:22
hard
50:22
time
50:22
fighting
50:22
base.
50:23
But
50:24
I
50:24
just
50:24
remember,
50:25
remember
50:25
towards,
50:26
I
50:26
guess
50:26
sort
50:26
of
50:27
2018
50:27
ish,
50:28
but.
50:28
Or
50:29
2017,
50:29
it
50:30
doesn't
50:30
matter.
50:30
But
50:31
I
50:31
tuned
50:31
into
50:32
a
50:32
late
50:32
night
50:32
show.
50:32
Andrew
50:33
W.K.
50:33
was
50:33
on
50:34
it,
50:34
performing
50:34
one
50:35
of
50:35
his
50:35
new
50:35
songs
50:35
off
50:36
of
50:36
the
50:36
album
50:36
you're
50:36
not
50:37
alone,
50:38
you're
50:38
not
50:38
along
50:39
the
50:39
tight.
50:39
The.
50:40
The
50:40
single
50:41
off
50:41
of
50:41
that
50:41
one
50:42
that
50:42
was
50:42
kind
50:42
of
50:43
his
50:43
hit
50:43
from
50:43
that
50:43
one
50:43
was
50:44
music
50:44
is
50:44
worth
50:45
living
50:45
for.
50:46
Now
50:47
the
50:47
message
50:47
of
50:47
that
50:47
song
50:48
is
50:48
very
50:48
simple,
50:48
is
50:49
that
50:49
music
50:49
is
50:49
what's
50:50
living.
50:50
Living
50:50
is
50:51
worth
50:51
living
50:51
for.
50:51
Like
50:52
if
50:52
there's
50:52
nothing
50:52
else,
50:53
music
50:53
is
50:53
worth
50:53
living
50:54
for.
50:54
And
50:54
that
50:54
resonated
50:55
with
50:55
me.
50:55
But
50:56
what
50:56
really
50:56
resonated
50:57
with
50:57
me
50:57
was
50:58
sitting
50:58
in
50:59
my
50:59
living
50:59
room
51:00
watching
51:00
this
51:00
performance
51:01
on
51:01
tv.
51:02
The
51:02
energy
51:03
that
51:03
was
51:03
being
51:04
put
51:04
out,
51:05
I
51:05
felt
51:06
through
51:06
the
51:06
TV
51:07
like
51:07
I
51:07
felt
51:08
invigorated
51:08
when
51:09
I
51:09
heard
51:09
this
51:09
message.
51:10
And
51:11
it
51:11
was
51:11
like
51:11
I
51:11
said,
51:12
that
51:12
was
51:12
some
51:13
of
51:13
that
51:13
light
51:13
in
51:13
that
51:13
dark
51:14
time
51:14
for
51:14
me.
51:15
And
51:16
on
51:16
that
51:16
album,
51:16
there
51:17
are
51:17
spoken
51:18
word
51:18
pieces
51:19
that
51:19
he
51:19
does.
51:20
And
51:20
one
51:21
of
51:21
those
51:21
pieces,
51:22
he
51:22
says
51:23
something
51:23
about
51:23
the
51:23
light
51:24
and
51:24
the
51:24
shadows
51:24
that
51:25
we
51:25
have
51:25
to.
51:26
As
51:26
human
51:27
beings,
51:27
both
51:27
of
51:28
those
51:28
things
51:28
are
51:28
part
51:29
of
51:29
our
51:29
life,
51:29
and
51:29
we
51:30
have
51:30
to
51:30
live
51:30
with
51:30
both
51:31
of
51:31
them.
51:31
We
51:31
have
51:31
to
51:32
live
51:32
with
51:32
the
51:32
dark.
51:32
We
51:32
have
51:32
to
51:33
live
51:33
with
51:33
the
51:33
light.
51:34
And
51:34
what
51:34
is.
51:35
What
51:35
is.
51:36
What
51:36
are
51:36
shadows
51:37
but
51:37
just.
51:37
Or
51:38
no,
51:38
what
51:38
is
51:38
darkness
51:38
but
51:39
just
51:39
the
51:39
shadows
51:40
or
51:40
just
51:41
the
51:41
light
51:41
casting
51:41
shadows?
51:42
Basically,
51:42
it's
51:42
like
51:42
that
51:43
light
51:43
is
51:43
still
51:43
there
51:43
even
51:44
if
51:44
you
51:44
can't
51:44
see
51:44
it.
51:44
Right
51:44
now.
51:45
It's
51:45
just
51:45
casting
51:46
a
51:46
shadow
51:46
at
51:46
the
51:47
moment.
51:47
There's
51:47
something
51:47
that's
51:48
blocking
51:48
that
51:48
light
51:48
from
51:48
you.
51:49
It's
51:49
not
51:49
going
51:49
to
51:49
be
51:49
there
51:50
forever.
51:51
And
51:51
hearing
51:52
that
51:52
was
51:53
something
51:53
that
51:53
really
51:54
got
51:54
me
51:54
through
51:55
a
51:55
really
51:55
hard
51:56
time
51:56
in
51:56
my
51:56
life
51:57
where
51:57
I
51:58
just
51:59
felt
51:59
like
51:59
I
51:59
had
51:59
no
51:59
one
51:59
I
52:00
could
52:00
turn
52:00
to
52:00
at
52:00
that
52:00
time,
52:01
because
52:01
I
52:01
was
52:01
not
52:02
being.
52:02
I
52:03
mean,
52:03
admittedly,
52:04
a
52:04
lot
52:04
of
52:04
it
52:04
was
52:04
on
52:04
me,
52:06
but
52:06
that
52:07
is.
52:07
Gave
52:07
me
52:07
some
52:08
direction.
52:08
And
52:08
I
52:08
got
52:08
to
52:09
go
52:09
see
52:10
and
52:10
see
52:11
him
52:11
perform
52:11
live.
52:12
Like
52:12
two
52:13
weeks
52:13
after
52:13
I
52:13
saw
52:14
that.
52:14
It
52:14
was
52:14
just
52:15
shot
52:15
and
52:15
fruit,
52:16
I
52:16
guess.
52:16
He
52:16
came
52:16
through
52:17
the
52:17
other
52:17
store
52:18
with
52:18
his
52:18
band.
52:19
They
52:19
needed
52:19
something.
52:19
The
52:19
other
52:20
store
52:20
manager
52:20
had
52:20
called
52:21
me
52:21
because
52:21
I
52:21
had
52:21
told
52:21
him
52:22
about
52:22
this
52:22
whole
52:22
thing
52:23
about
52:23
how
52:24
seeing
52:24
this
52:24
just
52:25
really
52:25
gave
52:25
me.
52:26
Kind
52:26
of
52:26
gave
52:26
me
52:26
some
52:26
energy
52:27
back
52:27
in
52:27
my
52:27
life
52:27
that
52:28
I
52:28
was
52:28
missing
52:28
at
52:28
the
52:28
time.
52:29
And
52:30
the
52:30
band
52:30
came
52:30
through
52:31
and
52:31
he
52:31
told
52:32
them
52:32
the
52:32
story
52:32
about
52:32
how
52:33
I
52:33
called
52:33
him
52:33
about
52:33
this.
52:34
They
52:34
gave
52:35
us
52:35
tickets
52:35
to
52:35
go
52:35
see
52:35
them
52:36
live,
52:36
and
52:36
we
52:37
got
52:37
to
52:37
go
52:37
see
52:37
them
52:37
live.
52:38
And
52:38
seeing
52:39
him
52:39
live
52:40
was
52:40
probably
52:41
one
52:41
of
52:41
the
52:41
most
52:42
joyful
52:43
concert
52:44
experiences
52:44
I've
52:45
ever
52:45
had.
52:46
Everyone
52:46
was
52:46
so
52:47
positive
52:47
and
52:48
happy
52:48
and
52:48
just
52:48
having
52:49
fun
52:50
and
52:50
realizing
52:51
that
52:52
everything
52:52
doesn't
52:53
have
52:53
to
52:53
be
52:53
so
52:53
serious
52:53
all
52:53
the
52:54
time.
52:54
It's
52:54
maybe
52:54
okay
52:55
to
52:55
be
52:55
a
52:55
little
52:55
goofy,
52:55
maybe
52:56
be
52:56
a
52:56
little
52:56
corny
52:57
and
52:57
just
52:57
enjoy
52:59
our
52:59
time
52:59
together
53:00
while
53:00
this
53:00
is
53:00
happening.
53:01
And,
53:01
man,
53:02
that
53:02
was
53:02
such
53:02
a
53:02
fun
53:03
experience
53:03
for
53:03
me.
53:03
But
53:04
hearing
53:04
him
53:05
speak
53:05
about
53:05
that
53:06
speak,
53:06
somebody
53:07
who's
53:07
associated
53:08
with
53:08
so
53:09
much
53:09
like
53:10
party,
53:10
party,
53:10
blah,
53:10
blah,
53:11
blah,
53:11
and
53:11
being
53:11
talking
53:12
about,
53:12
like,
53:12
depression
53:13
and,
53:14
you
53:14
know,
53:15
I
53:15
get
53:15
down
53:15
and
53:15
I
53:16
feel
53:16
really
53:16
down
53:16
and
53:17
all
53:17
of
53:17
this
53:17
stuff,
53:17
it
53:18
was
53:18
like,
53:18
you
53:18
know,
53:18
like,
53:19
that
53:19
was.
53:19
That
53:20
was
53:20
big
53:20
for
53:20
me
53:20
at
53:21
that
53:21
time.
53:22
And
53:22
not
53:22
a
53:23
lot
53:23
of
53:23
people
53:23
are
53:23
familiar
53:24
with
53:24
that
53:24
album.
53:24
A
53:24
lot
53:24
of
53:24
people
53:25
know
53:25
that
53:25
album.
53:26
They
53:26
just
53:27
know
53:27
his
53:27
early
53:27
stuff.
53:27
But
53:28
that
53:28
was
53:28
a
53:28
later
53:28
album.
53:29
And
53:29
like
53:29
I
53:29
said,
53:29
a
53:29
lot
53:30
of
53:30
the
53:30
passages
53:30
on
53:30
there
53:31
are
53:31
about
53:31
being
53:32
alone,
53:33
being
53:33
in
53:33
darkness,
53:34
Being
53:34
depressed
53:34
and
53:35
trying
53:35
to
53:35
find
53:35
your
53:35
way
53:35
out
53:36
of
53:36
it.
53:36
So
53:36
that
53:37
was
53:37
something
53:37
that
53:37
was.
53:38
Was
53:38
really
53:38
helpful
53:39
for
53:39
me
53:39
in
53:39
that
53:39
time.
53:40
So
53:40
to
53:40
your
53:41
point,
53:41
yes.
53:42
There's
53:42
always
53:42
light.
53:43
Always
53:43
light.
53:44
Darkness
53:45
is.
53:45
Darkness
53:45
is
53:46
not
53:46
present.
53:46
Like,
53:47
light
53:48
has
53:48
to
53:48
be
53:48
there.
53:48
They
53:48
coexist.
53:50
We
53:50
have
53:50
to
53:50
be
53:51
okay
53:51
with
53:51
both
53:51
of
53:52
them.
53:52
They
53:52
are
53:52
part
53:52
of
53:53
our
53:53
lives.
53:53
And
53:54
you
53:54
just
53:55
have
53:55
to
53:55
keep
53:55
moving
53:55
forward,
53:55
because
53:56
while
53:56
today
53:56
may
53:56
be
53:57
a
53:57
dark
53:57
day,
53:58
that
53:58
sun's
53:58
gonna
53:59
come
53:59
up
53:59
in
53:59
the
53:59
morning.
53:59
You
54:00
know,
54:00
you
54:00
got
54:00
to
54:00
keep
54:00
pushing
54:00
forward.
54:01
So
54:01
that
54:01
was
54:01
kind
54:01
of
54:01
the
54:02
overall
54:02
message
54:02
of
54:03
that
54:03
album
54:03
that.
54:03
That
54:04
really
54:04
struck
54:05
with
54:05
me.
54:05
And
54:05
just
54:06
hearing
54:06
you
54:06
mention
54:06
some
54:07
of
54:07
the
54:07
similar
54:07
themes
54:08
just
54:08
kind
54:08
of
54:08
reminded
54:09
me
54:09
of
54:09
that.
54:09
Awesome.
54:10
Thank
54:10
you.
54:10
Thank
54:11
you
54:11
for
54:11
sharing
54:11
that.
54:12
I
54:12
don't
54:12
think
54:12
that
54:12
was
54:12
ridiculous
54:13
at
54:13
all.
54:13
I
54:13
think
54:13
that
54:13
was
54:14
very
54:15
awesome.
54:15
Thank
54:15
you,
54:15
man.
54:16
You
54:16
know,
54:17
continuing
54:18
in
54:18
this
54:18
thread
54:19
of.
54:19
Of
54:20
there
54:20
is
54:20
always
54:20
light,
54:21
it's
54:21
just
54:21
trying
54:21
to
54:22
try
54:22
to
54:22
see
54:22
around
54:22
the
54:23
shadow.
54:27
Yeah.
54:28
Well,
54:28
you
54:29
know,
54:29
as
54:29
a
54:29
parent,
54:30
kids
54:30
are
54:31
number
54:32
one.
54:32
Of
54:32
course.
54:33
I
54:33
know
54:33
you
54:33
can
54:33
relate
54:33
to
54:34
that.
54:34
You
54:35
being
54:36
a
54:36
dad.
54:38
One
54:38
of
54:38
the
54:38
most
54:38
challenging
54:39
things,
54:39
probably
54:40
the
54:40
most
54:40
challenging
54:40
thing
54:41
I've
54:41
ever
54:41
done
54:41
in
54:41
my
54:41
life,
54:42
but
54:43
also
54:43
one
54:44
of
54:44
the
54:44
things
54:44
that
54:44
I
54:44
am
54:45
so
54:45
happy
54:46
that
54:46
I've
54:47
done,
54:47
because
54:49
what's
54:49
so
54:50
beautiful
54:50
about
54:50
having
54:51
children,
54:52
in
54:53
my
54:53
experience,
54:54
is
54:54
that
54:54
you
54:55
get
54:55
to
54:55
vicariously
54:57
revisit
54:58
the
54:58
world
54:58
through
54:59
their
54:59
eyes.
55:00
Everything
55:00
is
55:00
new
55:00
to
55:01
them.
55:01
Everything
55:02
is
55:02
amazing.
55:03
Everything
55:03
is
55:04
the
55:05
best.
55:06
Everything
55:06
is
55:07
fresh,
55:07
you
55:07
know?
55:07
Know.
55:08
And
55:08
you
55:08
get
55:09
it
55:09
resets
55:10
your
55:10
perspective
55:10
to
55:11
go,
55:11
you
55:11
know
55:11
what?
55:12
The
55:12
sky
55:12
is
55:13
freaking
55:13
cool.
55:13
The
55:14
moon's
55:14
awesome.
55:14
Grass
55:15
is
55:15
awesome.
55:15
I
55:16
like
55:16
flowers.
55:16
Like,
55:17
all
55:17
these
55:18
things
55:18
are
55:18
truly
55:18
incredible.
55:19
The
55:19
things
55:20
that
55:20
had
55:20
to
55:20
come
55:21
together
55:22
to
55:22
create
55:22
us
55:23
as
55:23
human
55:23
beings,
55:24
for
55:24
us
55:24
to
55:24
be
55:24
here
55:25
in
55:25
this
55:25
time
55:25
and
55:25
right
55:26
now,
55:26
all
55:27
those
55:27
things
55:27
to
55:27
align.
55:28
For
55:28
me
55:28
to
55:28
have
55:28
been
55:29
born,
55:30
like,
55:31
my.
55:31
My
55:32
mom's
55:32
side
55:32
of
55:32
the
55:32
family's
55:33
from
55:33
Chicago.
55:33
My
55:33
dad's
55:34
side
55:34
of
55:34
the
55:34
family's
55:34
from
55:34
Alabama.
55:35
What
55:35
if
55:35
my
55:35
mom's
55:35
side
55:36
never
55:36
moved
55:36
down,
55:36
right?
55:37
Like,
55:37
all
55:37
these
55:38
crazy
55:38
things
55:39
had
55:39
to
55:39
align
55:40
just
55:40
perfectly.
55:40
So
55:41
we
55:41
should
55:41
be
55:42
so
55:42
thankful
55:43
for
55:43
every
55:43
day
55:44
that
55:44
we're
55:44
given.
55:44
Because,
55:45
dude,
55:46
as
55:47
crappy
55:47
as
55:47
life
55:48
can
55:48
be
55:48
sometimes
55:49
there's
55:50
so
55:50
much
55:50
amazing
55:51
things
55:52
that
55:52
we
55:52
can.
55:53
We
55:53
can
55:54
latch
55:54
on
55:54
to.
55:55
And
55:55
having
55:56
kids
55:57
was
55:58
such
55:58
a
55:58
great
55:58
reminder
55:59
for
55:59
me
56:00
of
56:00
that.
56:01
It
56:01
brought
56:01
back
56:02
some
56:02
of
56:03
that
56:03
curiosity,
56:04
some
56:04
of
56:05
that,
56:07
you
56:07
know,
56:07
as
56:07
adults,
56:08
we
56:08
get
56:08
real
56:08
serious,
56:09
I
56:09
think
56:10
a
56:10
lot
56:10
of
56:10
the
56:11
time,
56:11
and
56:11
we
56:11
lose
56:12
some
56:13
of
56:13
that
56:13
part.
56:13
And
56:14
I
56:14
think
56:14
you
56:14
have
56:14
to
56:14
keep
56:15
some
56:15
of
56:15
that,
56:15
because
56:16
that
56:16
keeps
56:16
me
56:17
hopeful.
56:17
Is
56:18
I'm
56:18
going
56:18
to
56:18
discover
56:18
something
56:19
new
56:19
tomorrow.
56:20
So
56:20
that's
56:20
definitely
56:21
one
56:21
thing.
56:23
You
56:24
know,
56:24
I'm
56:25
instructing.
56:25
Mentioned
56:25
my
56:25
partner,
56:25
Gloria.
56:26
We've
56:26
been
56:27
married
56:27
for
56:27
16
56:28
years
56:28
going
56:29
into
56:29
year
56:29
17,
56:30
but
56:30
20
56:30
years
56:30
total
56:31
together.
56:32
And
56:33
a
56:33
lot
56:33
of
56:33
times
56:34
when
56:35
I,
56:35
if
56:36
I.
56:36
If
56:37
I
56:37
just
56:37
can't
56:37
see
56:37
the
56:37
forest
56:37
of
56:38
the
56:38
trees,
56:38
right?
56:39
She
56:40
helps
56:40
me.
56:41
She
56:41
gives
56:41
me
56:42
something.
56:42
She's,
56:43
you
56:43
know,
56:44
reminding
56:44
me
56:45
of
56:45
this,
56:45
reminding
56:45
me
56:45
of
56:45
that.
56:46
She's
56:46
supporting
56:46
me.
56:48
Music,
56:49
you
56:49
know,
56:49
music.
56:50
I.
56:51
Man,
56:51
if
56:52
I'm
56:52
feeling
56:52
down,
56:53
there's
56:54
so
56:54
much
56:54
music
56:54
I
56:54
can
56:55
go
56:55
to.
56:55
There's
56:55
so
56:56
much
56:56
I
56:57
could
56:57
just
56:57
put
56:57
on
56:57
and
56:58
it
56:58
can
56:58
reset
56:59
my
56:59
mind.
56:59
But
57:00
sometimes
57:01
when
57:01
you're
57:01
feeling
57:02
down,
57:02
sometimes
57:03
that
57:03
music
57:03
is.
57:04
You
57:04
need
57:05
to
57:05
listen
57:05
to
57:05
someone
57:07
that's
57:07
also
57:07
down.
57:08
You
57:08
need
57:08
to
57:09
be
57:09
able
57:09
to
57:09
relate
57:10
and
57:10
feel
57:10
like
57:10
you're
57:11
not
57:11
alone
57:11
in
57:11
that
57:11
moment.
57:12
So
57:12
that
57:12
gives
57:13
me
57:13
hope.
57:14
And
57:15
honestly,
57:15
man,
57:15
like,
57:17
I
57:17
do
57:17
struggle.
57:19
It's.
57:19
It's
57:19
really
57:20
funny
57:20
because
57:20
a
57:20
few
57:20
years
57:20
ago,
57:21
a
57:21
friend
57:21
of
57:21
mine
57:21
asked
57:21
me,
57:22
how
57:22
are
57:22
you
57:22
so
57:22
happy
57:23
all
57:23
the
57:23
time?
57:25
And
57:25
I
57:25
was
57:25
like,
57:26
I'm
57:26
not.
57:27
It's
57:28
like
57:28
I'm
57:29
not
57:29
happy
57:29
all
57:29
the
57:30
time.
57:30
But
57:30
I'm
57:30
glad
57:30
that
57:30
that's
57:31
what
57:31
you
57:31
perceive.
57:32
Like,
57:33
you
57:33
know,
57:33
at
57:33
that
57:33
time
57:34
I
57:34
was
57:34
literally
57:35
struggling
57:35
financially
57:36
because
57:36
work
57:37
problems,
57:37
like
57:37
being
57:38
out
57:38
of
57:38
work,
57:40
was
57:40
not
57:40
feeling
57:41
my
57:41
best,
57:41
was
57:42
feeling
57:42
lesser
57:43
than
57:43
because
57:43
I
57:44
wasn't
57:44
bringing
57:45
in
57:45
any
57:46
really
57:46
serious
57:47
income
57:47
to
57:47
support
57:48
my
57:48
family.
57:48
I
57:49
feel
57:49
like
57:49
I
57:49
felt
57:50
like
57:50
a
57:50
failure
57:50
in
57:50
that
57:51
moment.
57:51
And
57:52
he
57:52
was
57:52
like,
57:52
how
57:52
are
57:52
you
57:53
so
57:53
happy
57:53
all
57:53
the
57:54
time?
57:54
And
57:54
that's
57:54
what's
57:55
going
57:55
on
57:55
in
57:55
my
57:55
head.
57:56
And
57:56
I'm
57:57
like,
57:57
wow,
57:58
you
57:58
know,
57:59
wow,
57:59
that's
58:00
really
58:00
eye
58:00
opening.
58:00
But
58:01
I
58:01
always
58:02
try.
58:03
But
58:03
in
58:03
that
58:03
moment,
58:04
I
58:04
was
58:04
at
58:04
a
58:04
show
58:05
and
58:06
I
58:06
was.
58:06
I
58:06
was
58:07
there
58:07
with
58:07
my
58:07
wife's
58:07
art.
58:08
So
58:09
I
58:09
was
58:09
doing
58:09
two
58:09
things
58:09
I
58:09
love.
58:10
I
58:10
was
58:11
enjoying
58:12
music,
58:12
enjoying
58:13
the
58:13
community
58:13
of
58:14
music
58:14
in
58:14
a
58:15
space
58:15
where
58:15
I
58:16
feel
58:16
like
58:16
it's
58:16
home
58:16
to
58:17
me.
58:18
Why
58:18
would
58:18
I
58:18
not
58:18
be
58:19
happy
58:19
with
58:19
all.
58:20
Even
58:20
with
58:20
all
58:20
this
58:20
other
58:21
going
58:21
on
58:22
right
58:23
now,
58:23
in
58:24
this
58:24
moment?
58:25
Yeah,
58:25
dude,
58:25
I'm
58:26
happy
58:26
as
58:26
hell,
58:26
even
58:26
if
58:27
I'm
58:27
stressed
58:27
about
58:27
all
58:27
this
58:28
stuff.
58:28
There's
58:28
great
58:28
band
58:29
playing,
58:29
there's
58:29
cool
58:30
people
58:30
looking
58:30
at
58:30
my
58:30
wife's
58:31
art.
58:31
I'm
58:31
talking
58:32
to
58:32
people
58:32
about
58:32
it.
58:33
We're
58:33
sharing
58:33
stories.
58:34
I'm
58:34
seeing
58:34
people
58:35
pick
58:35
up
58:35
pieces
58:35
of
58:36
art
58:36
and,
58:36
like,
58:36
laugh
58:36
and
58:37
smile
58:37
and
58:37
interact
58:38
with
58:38
it.
58:39
So
58:39
that
58:40
brings
58:40
me
58:41
joy
58:41
and
58:41
happiness
58:42
a
58:42
lot
58:42
too
58:43
is.
58:43
Is
58:43
interacting
58:44
with
58:44
people
58:44
in
58:44
that
58:45
way.
58:45
And
58:45
we,
58:45
you
58:46
know,
58:46
obviously
58:47
I
58:47
saw
58:47
you
58:47
in
58:47
Nashville
58:48
for
58:48
the
58:49
punk
58:49
rock
58:50
Flea
58:50
up
58:51
there.
58:51
And
58:52
getting
58:52
to
58:53
go
58:53
to
58:53
shows
58:54
and
58:54
interact
58:55
with
58:55
people
58:55
and
58:56
once
58:56
again,
58:56
that
58:57
community
58:57
and
58:57
just
58:58
having
58:58
that
58:58
community
58:59
and
58:59
knowing
59:00
that
59:00
I
59:00
can
59:00
go
59:01
to
59:01
another
59:02
freaking
59:02
state.
59:03
And
59:04
one
59:05
of
59:05
my
59:05
favorite
59:05
bands
59:05
is
59:05
there
59:06
a
59:07
super
59:07
cool.
59:08
Some
59:08
friends
59:08
are
59:09
there,
59:10
but
59:10
I
59:10
also
59:10
get
59:11
to
59:12
then
59:12
connect
59:13
with
59:13
all
59:14
these
59:14
other
59:14
people.
59:15
And
59:16
even
59:16
if
59:16
it's
59:17
just
59:17
brief
59:17
and
59:17
it's
59:17
like,
59:17
hey,
59:18
man,
59:18
I
59:18
really
59:18
dig
59:18
your
59:18
shirt,
59:19
you
59:19
know
59:19
that
59:20
just
59:20
little
59:20
brief
59:20
interactions
59:21
like
59:21
that,
59:22
those
59:22
are
59:23
things
59:23
that
59:23
give
59:23
me
59:23
hope.
59:23
Because
59:24
I
59:24
do
59:24
think
59:25
genuinely,
59:25
at
59:25
the
59:25
end
59:25
of
59:26
the
59:26
day,
59:26
there
59:26
are.
59:26
There's
59:27
more
59:27
good
59:28
than
59:28
there
59:29
is
59:29
bad.
59:29
Even
59:29
though
59:29
I
59:30
think
59:30
we
59:30
get
59:30
fed
59:30
a
59:30
lot
59:31
of
59:31
the
59:31
bad,
59:31
I
59:32
think
59:32
people
59:32
are
59:33
genuinely
59:34
better
59:35
than
59:35
we
59:35
give
59:35
them
59:36
credit
59:36
for.
59:37
There
59:37
are
59:37
select
59:38
few
59:38
that
59:39
we
59:39
won't
59:39
get
59:39
into
59:40
at
59:40
this
59:40
point.
59:41
But
59:42
overall,
59:43
man,
59:44
that
59:44
brings
59:44
me
59:45
joy.
59:45
That
59:45
brings
59:45
me
59:46
hope.
59:47
I'm
59:47
just
59:47
so
59:48
grateful
59:48
to
59:49
be.
59:50
I'm
59:50
cool.
59:50
Grateful
59:51
because
59:51
I
59:51
know
59:52
what
59:52
it's
59:52
like
59:52
to
59:52
not
59:53
have
59:53
this,
59:54
if
59:54
that
59:54
makes
59:55
sense.
59:55
I
59:55
know
59:55
what
59:55
it's
59:55
like
59:56
to
59:56
not
59:56
have
59:57
a
59:57
scene.
59:57
Montgomery,
59:57
Alabama,
59:58
when
59:58
I
59:58
lived
59:59
there,
59:59
that
59:59
scene
1:00:00
died
1:00:00
when
1:00:00
Head
1:00:00
on
1:00:01
the
1:00:01
Door
1:00:01
died.
1:00:01
You
1:00:02
know,
1:00:02
I
1:00:02
know
1:00:02
what
1:00:02
it's
1:00:02
like
1:00:03
to
1:00:03
not
1:00:03
have
1:00:03
that.
1:00:03
I
1:00:04
know
1:00:04
what
1:00:04
it's
1:00:04
like
1:00:04
to
1:00:04
not
1:00:04
have
1:00:05
community.
1:00:05
So
1:00:06
to
1:00:06
have
1:00:06
that
1:00:07
and
1:00:07
to
1:00:07
have
1:00:08
all
1:00:08
of
1:00:08
this
1:00:08
going.
1:00:09
It
1:00:09
may
1:00:10
not
1:00:10
be
1:00:10
forever,
1:00:10
but,
1:00:11
dude,
1:00:11
I'm
1:00:11
grateful
1:00:12
for
1:00:12
it
1:00:12
right
1:00:12
now
1:00:13
because
1:00:13
it
1:00:14
brings
1:00:14
me
1:00:14
joy,
1:00:14
it
1:00:15
brings
1:00:15
me
1:00:15
light,
1:00:15
it
1:00:15
brings
1:00:16
me
1:00:16
hope
1:00:16
and
1:00:16
invigorates
1:00:17
me
1:00:17
as
1:00:18
a
1:00:18
human.
1:00:19
And
1:00:19
that's
1:00:19
why
1:00:20
I
1:00:20
love
1:00:20
booking
1:00:20
shows.
1:00:21
That's
1:00:21
why
1:00:21
I
1:00:21
love
1:00:21
photographing
1:00:22
bands.
1:00:22
I
1:00:23
love
1:00:23
capturing
1:00:23
those
1:00:24
moments
1:00:25
because,
1:00:25
you
1:00:26
know,
1:00:26
those.
1:00:27
I
1:00:28
think
1:00:28
music
1:00:28
is
1:00:28
sacred.
1:00:29
I
1:00:30
truly
1:00:30
do.
1:00:30
I
1:00:30
believe
1:00:31
music
1:00:31
is
1:00:31
a
1:00:31
very
1:00:32
sacred
1:00:32
thing
1:00:32
that
1:00:32
we
1:00:32
share
1:00:33
with
1:00:33
each
1:00:33
other.
1:00:34
And
1:00:34
I
1:00:34
think
1:00:34
that
1:00:35
going
1:00:35
on
1:00:35
stage
1:00:36
is
1:00:37
kind
1:00:37
of
1:00:38
a
1:00:38
form
1:00:38
of
1:00:38
magic.
1:00:38
And
1:00:39
performing
1:00:39
that,
1:00:39
we're
1:00:40
creating
1:00:40
something
1:00:40
from
1:00:41
nothing
1:00:42
and
1:00:42
sharing
1:00:42
it
1:00:43
with
1:00:43
this
1:00:43
crowd
1:00:43
and
1:00:43
we're
1:00:43
having
1:00:44
this
1:00:44
energy,
1:00:44
transference,
1:00:46
all
1:00:46
of
1:00:46
those
1:00:46
things
1:00:47
give
1:00:47
me
1:00:47
hope,
1:00:48
give
1:00:48
me
1:00:48
joy,
1:00:48
give
1:00:49
me
1:00:49
happiness.
1:00:50
Whenever.
1:00:51
Whenever
1:00:51
I'm
1:00:52
feeling
1:00:52
down.
1:00:53
So
1:00:53
there's
1:00:53
that
1:00:53
real
1:00:54
long
1:00:54
winded
1:00:54
answer
1:00:55
for
1:00:55
you.
1:00:56
I
1:00:56
have
1:00:56
a
1:00:56
really
1:00:56
hard
1:00:57
time
1:00:57
meeting
1:00:57
people
1:00:58
because,
1:00:59
one,
1:00:59
I'm
1:00:59
not,
1:00:59
like,
1:01:00
I'm
1:01:00
not
1:01:00
good
1:01:00
at
1:01:00
small
1:01:01
talk.
1:01:03
I'm
1:01:03
just
1:01:03
not.
1:01:04
I'm
1:01:04
just
1:01:04
not
1:01:04
good
1:01:04
at
1:01:05
it.
1:01:05
Like,
1:01:05
and
1:01:06
I
1:01:06
think
1:01:06
part
1:01:06
of
1:01:06
the
1:01:06
reason
1:01:06
is
1:01:06
because,
1:01:07
like,
1:01:07
I
1:01:07
don't.
1:01:07
I
1:01:07
don't
1:01:08
care
1:01:08
about
1:01:08
it.
1:01:09
Like.
1:01:09
Like,
1:01:09
if
1:01:09
I
1:01:09
want
1:01:10
to
1:01:10
have
1:01:10
a
1:01:10
conversation
1:01:10
with
1:01:10
you,
1:01:10
I
1:01:11
want
1:01:11
to
1:01:11
have
1:01:11
a
1:01:11
conversation.
1:01:12
Like,
1:01:12
I
1:01:13
just
1:01:13
don't
1:01:13
care
1:01:13
about
1:01:13
small
1:01:13
talk.
1:01:14
Just
1:01:14
going
1:01:14
back
1:01:14
to
1:01:15
what
1:01:15
we
1:01:15
were
1:01:15
talking
1:01:15
about
1:01:15
earlier.
1:01:15
About.
1:01:16
About
1:01:16
you
1:01:17
Know,
1:01:17
performative
1:01:17
relationships
1:01:18
and
1:01:18
honest
1:01:19
relationships.
1:01:19
Like,
1:01:19
I
1:01:19
want
1:01:20
to
1:01:20
have
1:01:20
an
1:01:20
honest
1:01:20
relationship,
1:01:22
and
1:01:22
I'm
1:01:22
really
1:01:23
picky
1:01:24
about
1:01:24
who
1:01:24
I
1:01:24
want
1:01:25
to
1:01:25
have
1:01:25
those
1:01:25
honest
1:01:25
relationships
1:01:26
with.
1:01:27
So.
1:01:27
So
1:01:27
a
1:01:28
lot
1:01:28
of
1:01:28
times,
1:01:28
like,
1:01:28
at
1:01:28
shows,
1:01:29
you
1:01:29
know,
1:01:29
people
1:01:30
come
1:01:30
up
1:01:30
to
1:01:30
me
1:01:30
frequently
1:01:31
and
1:01:31
like,
1:01:31
wow,
1:01:31
you
1:01:31
always
1:01:32
look
1:01:32
so
1:01:32
pissed
1:01:32
off
1:01:33
at
1:01:33
shows
1:01:34
and.
1:01:34
And
1:01:35
it's
1:01:35
tough
1:01:35
because
1:01:35
I'm
1:01:35
pissed
1:01:36
off,
1:01:36
like,
1:01:37
when
1:01:37
I'm
1:01:37
watching
1:01:37
a
1:01:38
band,
1:01:39
like,
1:01:39
I
1:01:39
want
1:01:39
to
1:01:40
feel
1:01:40
something.
1:01:41
Right.
1:01:41
And
1:01:42
so.
1:01:43
So
1:01:43
I'm
1:01:44
like,
1:01:44
all
1:01:44
of
1:01:44
my
1:01:45
focus
1:01:45
is
1:01:45
on
1:01:45
that
1:01:46
band
1:01:46
and
1:01:46
taking
1:01:47
in
1:01:48
what's
1:01:48
coming
1:01:48
at
1:01:49
me.
1:01:49
It's
1:01:49
watching,
1:01:50
you
1:01:50
know,
1:01:51
watching
1:01:51
the
1:01:52
vocalist
1:01:52
and
1:01:52
watching
1:01:53
the
1:01:53
guitarist
1:01:54
and
1:01:54
the
1:01:54
bass
1:01:54
player
1:01:54
and
1:01:54
the
1:01:55
drummer
1:01:55
and
1:01:55
the,
1:01:55
you
1:01:56
know,
1:01:56
whatever
1:01:56
other
1:01:56
musicians
1:01:57
are
1:01:57
up
1:01:57
there.
1:01:57
Not
1:01:58
just
1:01:58
watching
1:01:58
them
1:01:58
play,
1:01:58
but
1:01:59
watching
1:01:59
them
1:01:59
interact
1:01:59
with
1:02:00
each
1:02:00
other
1:02:00
and
1:02:00
watching
1:02:00
them
1:02:01
interact
1:02:01
with.
1:02:02
With
1:02:02
me
1:02:02
and
1:02:03
the
1:02:03
crowd
1:02:03
and
1:02:04
what's
1:02:04
in
1:02:04
the
1:02:04
music
1:02:05
that's
1:02:05
coming
1:02:05
out
1:02:05
and,
1:02:06
you
1:02:07
know,
1:02:07
and
1:02:07
just
1:02:07
absorbing
1:02:08
that
1:02:09
and
1:02:09
just
1:02:09
the
1:02:09
way
1:02:09
I
1:02:10
do.
1:02:10
That
1:02:10
does
1:02:10
look
1:02:11
very
1:02:11
closed
1:02:12
off.
1:02:12
Looks
1:02:12
like
1:02:12
I'm
1:02:12
pissed
1:02:13
off,
1:02:13
but
1:02:13
I'm
1:02:13
not.
1:02:13
Like,
1:02:14
I'm
1:02:14
really
1:02:15
just
1:02:15
taking
1:02:16
it
1:02:16
all.
1:02:16
Like,
1:02:16
just
1:02:16
doing
1:02:17
my
1:02:17
best
1:02:17
to
1:02:17
take
1:02:18
it
1:02:18
all
1:02:18
in
1:02:18
and
1:02:18
feel
1:02:19
every
1:02:19
bit
1:02:19
of
1:02:19
it.
1:02:19
Yeah,
1:02:20
you're.
1:02:20
You're.
1:02:21
You're
1:02:21
open
1:02:21
to
1:02:22
what's
1:02:22
being
1:02:22
presented.
1:02:23
Right,
1:02:24
Right.
1:02:24
But
1:02:24
when
1:02:24
people
1:02:24
see
1:02:25
it,
1:02:25
they
1:02:25
think
1:02:25
I'm
1:02:25
closed
1:02:26
off
1:02:26
in
1:02:26
an.
1:02:27
Which
1:02:27
is,
1:02:27
you
1:02:27
know,
1:02:28
whatever.
1:02:28
It's
1:02:28
okay,
1:02:30
you
1:02:30
know,
1:02:31
but
1:02:31
in
1:02:31
that
1:02:31
process,
1:02:32
like,
1:02:32
I.
1:02:33
A
1:02:33
lot
1:02:34
of
1:02:34
bands
1:02:34
I
1:02:34
listen
1:02:35
to,
1:02:35
if
1:02:36
you're
1:02:36
looking
1:02:36
at,
1:02:37
like,
1:02:37
the.
1:02:39
The
1:02:39
musical
1:02:39
definition
1:02:40
of
1:02:40
it,
1:02:40
like,
1:02:40
they
1:02:41
really
1:02:41
aren't
1:02:41
that
1:02:41
good,
1:02:42
but,
1:02:42
like,
1:02:43
they
1:02:43
make
1:02:43
me
1:02:44
feel,
1:02:44
you
1:02:45
know,
1:02:45
so
1:02:45
even
1:02:45
though
1:02:45
they
1:02:46
aren't
1:02:46
the
1:02:46
greatest
1:02:46
musicians
1:02:47
or
1:02:47
the
1:02:47
greatest
1:02:48
songwriters
1:02:49
or
1:02:49
the
1:02:49
greatest
1:02:50
whatever,
1:02:50
like,
1:02:51
they
1:02:51
make
1:02:51
me
1:02:51
feel
1:02:52
like
1:02:52
I
1:02:52
want
1:02:52
to
1:02:52
feel.
1:02:53
And
1:02:53
so
1:02:53
I
1:02:54
would
1:02:54
much
1:02:54
rather
1:02:54
listen
1:02:55
to
1:02:55
a
1:02:55
very
1:02:55
poorly
1:02:56
produced
1:02:57
album
1:02:58
that
1:02:58
isn't
1:02:59
played
1:02:59
well
1:02:59
or
1:03:00
written
1:03:00
well,
1:03:00
but,
1:03:00
like.
1:03:01
But
1:03:01
there's
1:03:01
some
1:03:02
honest,
1:03:02
like,
1:03:03
there's
1:03:03
emotion
1:03:03
behind
1:03:03
it
1:03:04
and
1:03:04
there's
1:03:04
feeling
1:03:04
behind
1:03:04
it
1:03:05
rather
1:03:06
than
1:03:06
this
1:03:06
overly
1:03:07
produced,
1:03:08
you
1:03:08
know,
1:03:08
widely
1:03:09
respected
1:03:10
album.
1:03:10
But
1:03:11
there's
1:03:11
no
1:03:11
spirit.
1:03:11
Sure.
1:03:12
There's.
1:03:12
It
1:03:12
has
1:03:12
no
1:03:13
soul.
1:03:13
I
1:03:14
agree.
1:03:14
You
1:03:14
know.
1:03:15
Yeah.
1:03:15
Because
1:03:15
it's.
1:03:16
It's
1:03:16
that
1:03:16
feeling,
1:03:16
and
1:03:17
it
1:03:17
goes
1:03:17
back
1:03:17
to
1:03:17
that
1:03:17
community
1:03:18
too.
1:03:18
Right?
1:03:19
Yeah.
1:03:19
No,
1:03:19
thank
1:03:20
you.
1:03:20
Thank
1:03:20
you
1:03:20
for.
1:03:21
For
1:03:21
sharing
1:03:21
all
1:03:21
of
1:03:22
that.
1:03:22
I
1:03:23
appreciate
1:03:23
it.
1:03:24
We've
1:03:24
been
1:03:24
talking
1:03:25
for
1:03:25
a
1:03:25
while,
1:03:26
and
1:03:26
out
1:03:27
of
1:03:27
respect
1:03:27
for
1:03:27
your
1:03:27
time,
1:03:28
we
1:03:28
can
1:03:28
start
1:03:28
wrapping
1:03:29
this
1:03:29
up.
1:03:29
But
1:03:30
before
1:03:30
we
1:03:30
do
1:03:30
that,
1:03:31
just
1:03:32
going
1:03:32
into
1:03:32
that
1:03:32
community
1:03:32
piece
1:03:33
again,
1:03:34
please
1:03:35
tell
1:03:36
share
1:03:36
with
1:03:36
whoever
1:03:37
happens
1:03:37
to
1:03:37
listen
1:03:38
to
1:03:38
this
1:03:38
how
1:03:39
they
1:03:39
can
1:03:39
find
1:03:39
you.
1:03:40
And
1:03:40
also
1:03:40
go
1:03:41
and
1:03:41
plug
1:03:41
your
1:03:41
wife,
1:03:41
because
1:03:42
your
1:03:42
wife
1:03:42
is
1:03:42
an
1:03:42
amazing
1:03:42
artist.
1:03:43
I
1:03:43
appreciate
1:03:43
that.
1:03:45
So
1:03:45
plug
1:03:45
yourself
1:03:46
and
1:03:46
how
1:03:46
people
1:03:47
can
1:03:47
find
1:03:47
you
1:03:47
in
1:03:47
all
1:03:48
of
1:03:48
your
1:03:48
various
1:03:49
projects
1:03:49
and
1:03:49
also
1:03:50
please
1:03:50
share
1:03:50
how
1:03:51
they
1:03:51
can
1:03:51
find
1:03:51
your
1:03:51
wife.
1:03:52
Yeah,
1:03:52
we'll
1:03:52
do
1:03:52
well.
1:03:52
Thanks
1:03:53
for
1:03:53
having
1:03:53
me
1:03:53
dude.
1:03:54
And
1:03:55
I
1:03:55
want
1:03:55
to
1:03:55
say
1:03:56
something.
1:03:56
I
1:03:56
am
1:03:57
glad
1:03:57
that
1:03:57
I
1:03:57
feel
1:03:58
like
1:03:58
I
1:03:58
am
1:03:58
one
1:03:59
of
1:03:59
the
1:03:59
people
1:04:00
that
1:04:00
you
1:04:01
are
1:04:01
picky
1:04:01
with
1:04:01
and
1:04:02
that
1:04:02
you
1:04:03
like
1:04:03
to
1:04:03
talk
1:04:03
to
1:04:04
and
1:04:04
spend
1:04:04
time
1:04:04
with
1:04:04
because
1:04:05
I
1:04:05
always
1:04:05
enjoy
1:04:05
getting
1:04:05
to
1:04:06
see
1:04:06
you
1:04:06
at
1:04:06
shows
1:04:07
and
1:04:07
and
1:04:07
connect
1:04:08
with
1:04:08
you.
1:04:08
So
1:04:09
I
1:04:09
feel
1:04:10
honored
1:04:10
to
1:04:11
be
1:04:11
as
1:04:11
part
1:04:12
of
1:04:12
that
1:04:12
small
1:04:12
group.
1:04:12
I
1:04:13
appreciate
1:04:13
you
1:04:13
man.
1:04:15
But
1:04:16
yeah
1:04:16
dude.
1:04:17
So
1:04:17
as
1:04:17
far
1:04:18
as
1:04:18
what
1:04:18
I
1:04:18
do,
1:04:18
Spirit
1:04:19
Guardian
1:04:19
is
1:04:19
the
1:04:19
music.
1:04:20
You
1:04:20
can
1:04:21
find
1:04:21
it.
1:04:21
Spotify,
1:04:22
band
1:04:22
camp,
1:04:22
YouTube.
1:04:23
I
1:04:23
have
1:04:23
a
1:04:23
music
1:04:24
video
1:04:24
out
1:04:25
that
1:04:25
I
1:04:25
did
1:04:25
with
1:04:25
my
1:04:25
buddy
1:04:26
Eric
1:04:26
from
1:04:26
the
1:04:26
band
1:04:26
Ember.
1:04:28
That
1:04:28
music
1:04:29
is
1:04:29
instrumental
1:04:29
Sci
1:04:30
fi
1:04:30
metal
1:04:30
is
1:04:30
what
1:04:30
I
1:04:31
call
1:04:31
it.
1:04:31
I
1:04:31
have
1:04:31
three
1:04:31
albums
1:04:32
out.
1:04:32
All
1:04:32
the
1:04:32
album
1:04:33
art
1:04:33
is
1:04:33
done
1:04:33
by
1:04:33
my
1:04:33
wife
1:04:34
Gloria.
1:04:34
So
1:04:35
if
1:04:35
you
1:04:35
want
1:04:35
to
1:04:35
get
1:04:36
an
1:04:36
idea,
1:04:36
you
1:04:36
can
1:04:36
check
1:04:37
it
1:04:37
there.
1:04:37
Iron
1:04:38
City
1:04:38
Sludge
1:04:39
on
1:04:40
Facebook
1:04:40
is
1:04:41
where
1:04:41
I
1:04:41
post
1:04:42
the
1:04:42
most
1:04:43
when
1:04:43
it
1:04:43
comes
1:04:43
to
1:04:44
shows
1:04:44
events
1:04:45
that
1:04:45
I'm
1:04:45
doing
1:04:46
the
1:04:47
Iron
1:04:47
City
1:04:47
Sludge.
1:04:48
I
1:04:49
also
1:04:49
have
1:04:49
a
1:04:49
Patreon
1:04:50
that
1:04:50
I
1:04:50
am
1:04:50
sorely
1:04:51
behind
1:04:51
on
1:04:51
updating.
1:04:52
I
1:04:52
have
1:04:52
a
1:04:52
digital
1:04:52
zine
1:04:53
that
1:04:54
I
1:04:54
am
1:04:54
still
1:04:54
working
1:04:55
on
1:04:55
creating.
1:04:55
I
1:04:55
have
1:04:55
a
1:04:56
couple
1:04:56
out
1:04:56
already
1:04:56
that
1:04:57
are
1:04:57
on
1:04:57
my
1:04:57
Patreon.
1:04:58
You
1:04:58
can
1:04:58
find
1:04:59
it
1:04:59
through
1:04:59
Iron
1:04:59
City
1:04:59
Sludge.
1:05:01
I'm
1:05:01
also
1:05:01
on
1:05:02
Instagram
1:05:02
and
1:05:03
the
1:05:03
Iron
1:05:03
City
1:05:03
Sludge.
1:05:04
I
1:05:04
have
1:05:04
a
1:05:04
show
1:05:06
so
1:05:06
I
1:05:06
generally
1:05:06
book
1:05:07
metal
1:05:07
shows
1:05:07
is
1:05:07
what
1:05:08
I
1:05:08
book.
1:05:08
But
1:05:08
this
1:05:09
I
1:05:09
do
1:05:09
also
1:05:09
book
1:05:09
punk
1:05:10
bands
1:05:10
every
1:05:10
now
1:05:10
and
1:05:10
then.
1:05:11
I
1:05:11
definitely
1:05:11
am
1:05:12
going
1:05:12
to
1:05:12
be
1:05:12
hitting
1:05:12
you
1:05:12
guys
1:05:12
up
1:05:13
because
1:05:13
I
1:05:13
have
1:05:13
a
1:05:13
date.
1:05:14
But.
1:05:15
But
1:05:15
yeah,
1:05:16
I
1:05:16
like
1:05:16
to
1:05:16
book
1:05:16
heavy
1:05:17
shows,
1:05:18
bands
1:05:18
that
1:05:19
are
1:05:19
giving
1:05:19
me
1:05:20
something
1:05:20
authentic.
1:05:21
To
1:05:21
your
1:05:22
point
1:05:22
that
1:05:22
you're
1:05:22
making
1:05:22
a
1:05:22
second
1:05:23
ago,
1:05:23
authenticity
1:05:24
is,
1:05:25
I
1:05:25
think,
1:05:25
you
1:05:26
know,
1:05:26
as
1:05:26
a
1:05:26
creative
1:05:27
person,
1:05:27
if
1:05:27
you're
1:05:28
authentic,
1:05:28
it's
1:05:29
going
1:05:29
to
1:05:29
be
1:05:29
received.
1:05:30
So
1:05:31
be
1:05:31
yourself.
1:05:32
No
1:05:32
matter
1:05:32
how
1:05:32
weird
1:05:33
it
1:05:33
is,
1:05:33
be
1:05:34
your
1:05:34
authentic
1:05:35
self
1:05:35
because
1:05:35
people
1:05:36
are
1:05:36
going
1:05:36
to
1:05:36
receive
1:05:36
that
1:05:37
better
1:05:37
than
1:05:37
they
1:05:37
do
1:05:38
fake
1:05:38
stuff.
1:05:38
But
1:05:38
you
1:05:39
have
1:05:39
a
1:05:39
Show
1:05:39
coming
1:05:39
up
1:05:39
January
1:05:40
30th
1:05:40
with
1:05:40
some
1:05:40
really
1:05:41
killer
1:05:41
bands.
1:05:41
You
1:05:41
can
1:05:41
find
1:05:42
all
1:05:42
the
1:05:42
information
1:05:42
on
1:05:43
Iron
1:05:43
City
1:05:43
Sledge
1:05:44
on
1:05:44
Facebook.
1:05:45
What
1:05:45
else?
1:05:46
I
1:05:46
also
1:05:46
do
1:05:47
private
1:05:48
photography
1:05:48
as
1:05:49
well,
1:05:49
like
1:05:49
portraiture
1:05:49
and
1:05:50
stuff.
1:05:50
I've
1:05:50
done
1:05:50
a
1:05:50
wedding.
1:05:51
I've
1:05:51
done
1:05:51
stuff
1:05:51
like
1:05:51
that.
1:05:52
That's
1:05:52
just
1:05:53
J.
1:05:54
Aiken
1:05:54
photos.
1:05:55
And
1:05:56
then
1:05:57
what
1:05:57
else?
1:05:57
Oh
1:05:57
yes,
1:05:57
Gloria.
1:05:58
So
1:05:58
my
1:05:58
wife
1:05:59
is
1:06:00
truly
1:06:00
an
1:06:00
amazing
1:06:01
artist.
1:06:01
I
1:06:02
always
1:06:02
joke
1:06:02
that
1:06:02
I
1:06:03
am.
1:06:03
I
1:06:03
am
1:06:03
biased,
1:06:04
but
1:06:04
she
1:06:04
genuinely
1:06:05
is
1:06:05
is
1:06:05
very,
1:06:06
very
1:06:06
good.
1:06:07
Gloria
1:06:07
aiken
1:06:08
art.com
1:06:09
which
1:06:09
is
1:06:09
a
1:06:09
I
1:06:09
T
1:06:09
K
1:06:10
E
1:06:10
N
1:06:11
You
1:06:11
can
1:06:12
find
1:06:12
it
1:06:12
there.
1:06:12
She's
1:06:12
also
1:06:12
on
1:06:13
Facebook
1:06:13
and
1:06:13
Instagram.
1:06:14
We
1:06:15
typically
1:06:15
when
1:06:16
we're
1:06:16
traveling
1:06:16
around,
1:06:16
when
1:06:17
we
1:06:17
went
1:06:17
to
1:06:17
Nashville,
1:06:18
that's
1:06:18
what
1:06:18
we
1:06:18
were
1:06:18
there
1:06:18
for.
1:06:19
We're
1:06:19
there
1:06:19
for
1:06:19
the
1:06:20
art,
1:06:20
you
1:06:20
know.
1:06:20
But
1:06:21
I
1:06:21
also
1:06:21
got
1:06:21
to
1:06:21
cover
1:06:21
that
1:06:22
show,
1:06:23
which
1:06:23
I'll
1:06:23
eventually
1:06:23
be
1:06:24
posting
1:06:24
some
1:06:24
more
1:06:24
under
1:06:24
Iron
1:06:25
City
1:06:25
sludge
1:06:26
from
1:06:26
that.
1:06:26
So
1:06:26
I
1:06:26
got
1:06:26
to
1:06:27
kind
1:06:27
of
1:06:27
COVID
1:06:27
that
1:06:28
slash
1:06:29
also
1:06:29
work
1:06:29
it.
1:06:30
And
1:06:30
she's
1:06:31
on
1:06:31
Facebook,
1:06:31
Instagram.
1:06:32
We
1:06:33
don't
1:06:33
have
1:06:33
any
1:06:34
events
1:06:34
officially
1:06:35
booked
1:06:35
right
1:06:35
now
1:06:35
for
1:06:35
this
1:06:35
year.
1:06:37
We're
1:06:37
going
1:06:37
to
1:06:37
be
1:06:38
more
1:06:38
selective
1:06:38
this
1:06:39
year
1:06:39
just
1:06:39
because
1:06:40
chronic
1:06:41
health
1:06:41
issues
1:06:41
with
1:06:42
her
1:06:42
as
1:06:43
well
1:06:43
as
1:06:43
some
1:06:43
things
1:06:43
going
1:06:44
on
1:06:44
with
1:06:44
me.
1:06:44
So
1:06:45
we're
1:06:45
gonna
1:06:46
be
1:06:46
doing
1:06:46
less,
1:06:46
fewer
1:06:47
shows
1:06:47
this
1:06:47
year
1:06:48
for
1:06:48
her
1:06:49
art.
1:06:49
But
1:06:49
Gloria
1:06:50
aikenart.com
1:06:50
is
1:06:51
always
1:06:51
there.
1:06:51
So
1:06:52
I
1:06:52
think.
1:06:53
I
1:06:53
think
1:06:53
I
1:06:53
flooded
1:06:53
everything
1:06:54
at
1:06:54
that
1:06:55
point.
1:06:56
It's
1:06:56
a
1:06:56
lot.
1:06:56
I
1:06:57
stay
1:06:57
busy.
1:06:57
Okay,
1:06:57
cool.
1:06:58
So
1:06:58
last
1:06:59
two
1:06:59
plan
1:06:59
questions.
1:07:00
The
1:07:00
first
1:07:01
one
1:07:02
is
1:07:02
what?
1:07:03
Well,
1:07:03
we
1:07:04
can
1:07:04
wrap
1:07:04
them
1:07:04
into
1:07:04
one.
1:07:05
So.
1:07:05
So
1:07:05
one
1:07:06
question,
1:07:06
two
1:07:06
parts.
1:07:07
Part
1:07:07
A.
1:07:08
What
1:07:08
are
1:07:09
you
1:07:09
currently
1:07:09
listening
1:07:10
to?
1:07:13
Oh,
1:07:15
that's
1:07:15
tough.
1:07:16
Okay.
1:07:16
So
1:07:17
the
1:07:18
band
1:07:18
that
1:07:18
I'm
1:07:18
listening
1:07:19
to
1:07:20
almost
1:07:20
non
1:07:20
stop
1:07:21
right
1:07:21
now
1:07:21
is
1:07:22
the
1:07:22
Viagra
1:07:22
Boys.
1:07:23
I
1:07:24
just
1:07:24
found
1:07:24
out
1:07:24
about
1:07:24
Viagra
1:07:25
Boys
1:07:25
about
1:07:26
a
1:07:26
month
1:07:26
ago.
1:07:28
And
1:07:29
speaking
1:07:29
of
1:07:30
authenticity,
1:07:31
this
1:07:31
band
1:07:32
is
1:07:32
so
1:07:33
freaking
1:07:33
weird
1:07:34
in
1:07:34
the
1:07:35
best
1:07:35
way
1:07:36
there.
1:07:36
They
1:07:36
list
1:07:37
influences
1:07:37
like
1:07:38
Butthole
1:07:38
Surfers
1:07:39
and
1:07:39
like
1:07:39
weird
1:07:39
bands
1:07:40
like
1:07:40
that.
1:07:41
They
1:07:41
have
1:07:41
four
1:07:42
albums
1:07:42
out,
1:07:43
roughly.
1:07:43
I
1:07:43
think
1:07:43
the
1:07:43
newest
1:07:44
one's
1:07:44
called
1:07:46
by
1:07:46
Ag
1:07:47
Boys.
1:07:48
They
1:07:49
just
1:07:49
put
1:07:49
the
1:07:50
A
1:07:50
on
1:07:50
the
1:07:50
boys.
1:07:51
It's
1:07:51
really
1:07:52
cool.
1:07:52
But
1:07:53
they
1:07:53
have
1:07:53
an
1:07:53
album
1:07:53
called
1:07:54
Cave
1:07:54
World
1:07:55
that
1:07:55
has
1:07:55
some
1:07:55
of
1:07:55
my
1:07:56
favorite
1:07:56
songs
1:07:56
on
1:07:56
it.
1:07:57
It's
1:07:57
kind
1:07:57
of
1:07:57
punk.
1:07:59
It
1:07:59
has
1:07:59
some
1:07:59
electronic
1:08:00
stuff
1:08:00
in
1:08:00
it,
1:08:01
has
1:08:01
a
1:08:01
saxophone
1:08:02
and
1:08:02
horn
1:08:02
player
1:08:02
in
1:08:03
it
1:08:03
sometimes.
1:08:04
It's
1:08:04
really
1:08:04
weird.
1:08:05
Lyrically,
1:08:06
he's
1:08:06
all
1:08:06
over
1:08:07
the
1:08:07
place.
1:08:08
He
1:08:08
writes
1:08:08
things
1:08:09
from
1:08:09
his
1:08:09
dog's
1:08:09
point
1:08:10
of
1:08:10
view.
1:08:10
He
1:08:10
has
1:08:10
a
1:08:10
song
1:08:10
called
1:08:11
Uno
1:08:11
2
1:08:12
that's
1:08:12
about
1:08:12
his
1:08:13
dog.
1:08:13
It's
1:08:13
written
1:08:14
from
1:08:14
the
1:08:14
dog's
1:08:14
point
1:08:14
of
1:08:14
view.
1:08:15
Going
1:08:15
to
1:08:15
the
1:08:15
vet.
1:08:15
It's
1:08:16
really
1:08:16
weird.
1:08:17
But
1:08:17
they're
1:08:18
really
1:08:18
interesting
1:08:18
band.
1:08:19
I
1:08:19
also
1:08:19
really
1:08:19
like.
1:08:19
Chat
1:08:20
Pile
1:08:20
is
1:08:20
another
1:08:21
band
1:08:21
that
1:08:22
is
1:08:22
just
1:08:23
one
1:08:23
of
1:08:23
those
1:08:23
bands
1:08:23
that
1:08:23
sounds
1:08:24
like
1:08:24
nobody
1:08:24
else.
1:08:25
They're
1:08:26
harsh.
1:08:26
They.
1:08:27
They
1:08:27
came.
1:08:27
I
1:08:28
think
1:08:28
they're
1:08:28
from
1:08:28
Oklahoma
1:08:29
is
1:08:29
where
1:08:29
they're
1:08:29
based.
1:08:29
They've
1:08:30
kind
1:08:30
of
1:08:30
been
1:08:31
making
1:08:31
some
1:08:31
waves
1:08:32
over
1:08:32
the
1:08:32
past
1:08:32
couple
1:08:33
years,
1:08:33
kind
1:08:33
of
1:08:33
getting
1:08:33
better
1:08:34
known.
1:08:35
Their
1:08:35
last
1:08:35
album,
1:08:36
Cool
1:08:36
World,
1:08:38
it
1:08:38
was
1:08:38
just
1:08:38
one
1:08:39
of
1:08:39
my
1:08:39
favorite
1:08:39
albums.
1:08:40
It's
1:08:40
so
1:08:41
bleak.
1:08:41
It's
1:08:42
so
1:08:42
bleak,
1:08:42
though.
1:08:43
So
1:08:43
like,
1:08:43
if
1:08:43
you're
1:08:44
maybe.
1:08:44
If
1:08:44
you're.
1:08:45
If
1:08:45
you're
1:08:45
in
1:08:45
a
1:08:45
dark
1:08:45
place,
1:08:46
maybe
1:08:46
not
1:08:46
listen
1:08:46
to
1:08:46
Chat
1:08:47
Pile.
1:08:47
Maybe
1:08:47
it's
1:08:47
the
1:08:47
Viagra
1:08:48
Boys.
1:08:48
It's
1:08:48
a
1:08:48
little
1:08:48
lighter.
1:08:49
Those
1:08:50
two
1:08:50
albums,
1:08:50
those
1:08:50
two
1:08:51
bands
1:08:51
are
1:08:51
on
1:08:52
pretty.
1:08:52
Pretty
1:08:53
steady
1:08:53
rotation
1:08:53
for
1:08:54
me
1:08:54
right
1:08:54
now.
1:08:54
Outside
1:08:55
of
1:08:55
the.
1:08:56
The
1:08:56
random
1:08:56
things
1:08:56
my
1:08:57
girls
1:08:57
want
1:08:57
to
1:08:57
hear
1:08:58
in
1:08:58
the
1:08:58
car
1:08:59
that
1:08:59
are
1:08:59
definitely
1:09:00
not
1:09:00
that.
1:09:01
As
1:09:01
far
1:09:01
as
1:09:01
what
1:09:01
I
1:09:02
think
1:09:02
people
1:09:02
say
1:09:02
should
1:09:02
be
1:09:02
listening
1:09:03
to.
1:09:03
Listen,
1:09:03
man,
1:09:04
I
1:09:04
have
1:09:05
so
1:09:05
many
1:09:05
bands
1:09:05
that
1:09:06
I
1:09:06
could
1:09:06
recommend,
1:09:06
you
1:09:07
know,
1:09:07
when
1:09:07
it
1:09:07
comes
1:09:07
to
1:09:09
smaller
1:09:09
artists.
1:09:10
I'm
1:09:10
gonna
1:09:11
go
1:09:11
ahead
1:09:11
and
1:09:11
shout
1:09:11
out
1:09:11
no
1:09:12
Asylum.
1:09:13
I
1:09:13
don't
1:09:13
know
1:09:13
if
1:09:13
you've
1:09:14
heard
1:09:14
of
1:09:14
that
1:09:14
band.
1:09:17
Thank
1:09:17
you.
1:09:17
One
1:09:18
of
1:09:18
the
1:09:18
things
1:09:18
that
1:09:18
struck
1:09:18
me
1:09:19
very
1:09:19
from
1:09:19
the
1:09:20
very
1:09:20
first
1:09:20
show
1:09:20
is
1:09:21
I
1:09:21
felt
1:09:21
like
1:09:22
you
1:09:22
meant
1:09:23
every
1:09:24
single
1:09:25
word
1:09:25
that
1:09:26
came
1:09:26
out
1:09:26
of
1:09:26
your
1:09:27
mouth.
1:09:27
You.
1:09:28
You
1:09:28
were
1:09:28
so
1:09:29
just
1:09:30
lost
1:09:30
in
1:09:31
the
1:09:31
music.
1:09:31
And
1:09:32
I
1:09:32
was.
1:09:32
I
1:09:33
was
1:09:33
like,
1:09:33
yeah,
1:09:33
this
1:09:34
guy,
1:09:34
like
1:09:35
he's
1:09:35
feeling
1:09:36
everything
1:09:36
that
1:09:37
he
1:09:37
is
1:09:37
saying
1:09:37
right
1:09:38
now.
1:09:38
And
1:09:40
so
1:09:40
that
1:09:40
comes
1:09:40
across
1:09:41
to
1:09:41
me.
1:09:42
Some
1:09:42
of
1:09:42
my
1:09:42
other
1:09:42
favorite
1:09:43
bands.
1:09:43
I'm
1:09:43
trying
1:09:43
to
1:09:44
think,
1:09:44
oh,
1:09:45
gosh,
1:09:45
I'm
1:09:45
gonna
1:09:45
blank
1:09:46
on
1:09:46
it.
1:09:46
Disincentive,
1:09:47
as
1:09:47
I
1:09:47
mentioned
1:09:47
earlier,
1:09:47
is
1:09:47
a
1:09:48
great
1:09:48
band.
1:09:48
Shoot
1:09:49
Shoot
1:09:49
Shoot.
1:09:49
Horror
1:09:49
Party
1:09:50
out
1:09:50
of
1:09:50
Mississippi.
1:09:51
That's
1:09:51
a
1:09:51
really
1:09:51
cool
1:09:52
punk
1:09:52
band.
1:09:53
Horror
1:09:54
punk
1:09:54
vibes.
1:09:56
I'm
1:09:56
gonna
1:09:56
have
1:09:56
them
1:09:56
up
1:09:57
sometime.
1:09:57
Triangle
1:09:58
Fire.
1:09:58
If
1:09:58
you
1:09:58
don't
1:09:59
listen
1:09:59
to
1:09:59
Triangle
1:09:59
Fire,
1:10:00
please
1:10:00
do.
1:10:01
Their
1:10:01
music
1:10:02
is
1:10:02
like,
1:10:03
as
1:10:03
a
1:10:03
metal
1:10:03
dude,
1:10:04
primarily
1:10:05
as
1:10:05
my
1:10:05
background,
1:10:06
their
1:10:06
music
1:10:06
is
1:10:07
metal.
1:10:07
With
1:10:08
punk,
1:10:08
it's.
1:10:08
It's.
1:10:09
It's
1:10:09
crust
1:10:10
punk,
1:10:10
I
1:10:10
guess
1:10:10
technically
1:10:11
is
1:10:11
what
1:10:11
they
1:10:11
call
1:10:11
it.
1:10:12
But
1:10:12
man,
1:10:13
they
1:10:13
just.
1:10:14
Are.
1:10:14
They
1:10:15
just
1:10:15
fire
1:10:15
on
1:10:16
all
1:10:16
cylinders.
1:10:16
Seeing
1:10:17
them
1:10:17
live
1:10:17
is
1:10:17
such
1:10:18
a
1:10:18
cool
1:10:18
experience.
1:10:19
Billy
1:10:20
Bats
1:10:20
and
1:10:20
the
1:10:20
Made
1:10:20
Men,
1:10:21
another
1:10:21
really
1:10:21
great,
1:10:22
awesome
1:10:22
punk
1:10:22
band.
1:10:23
These
1:10:24
dudes
1:10:25
are
1:10:26
bonkers.
1:10:27
They
1:10:28
do
1:10:28
not
1:10:28
stop.
1:10:29
They
1:10:29
just
1:10:30
go
1:10:31
from
1:10:31
the
1:10:31
first
1:10:32
note.
1:10:32
I
1:10:32
know.
1:10:33
I
1:10:33
know
1:10:33
you.
1:10:33
Yeah,
1:10:34
very.
1:10:35
Oh,
1:10:35
my
1:10:35
gosh,
1:10:35
those
1:10:36
guys.
1:10:37
And.
1:10:37
And
1:10:37
they're
1:10:37
younger
1:10:37
dudes.
1:10:38
I've
1:10:38
been
1:10:38
seeing
1:10:38
them
1:10:38
now
1:10:39
for
1:10:39
a
1:10:39
few
1:10:39
years,
1:10:40
but
1:10:40
I
1:10:41
think
1:10:41
for
1:10:41
the
1:10:41
first
1:10:41
time
1:10:41
I
1:10:41
saw
1:10:41
them.
1:10:42
Nub
1:10:42
Dub
1:10:43
was
1:10:43
like.
1:10:43
Their
1:10:43
Drummer
1:10:44
was
1:10:44
like
1:10:44
16
1:10:45
at
1:10:45
the
1:10:45
time.
1:10:46
And
1:10:46
man,
1:10:46
he
1:10:46
is
1:10:47
just
1:10:47
an
1:10:47
absolute
1:10:47
monster
1:10:48
on
1:10:48
drums.
1:10:49
And
1:10:49
they
1:10:49
just
1:10:49
go
1:10:50
the
1:10:50
whole
1:10:50
time.
1:10:51
Super
1:10:51
nice
1:10:52
dudes
1:10:52
too.
1:10:52
Like
1:10:53
I
1:10:53
said.
1:10:53
I
1:10:53
think.
1:10:54
I
1:10:54
think
1:10:54
the
1:10:55
oldest
1:10:56
one
1:10:56
of
1:10:56
them
1:10:56
is
1:10:56
maybe
1:10:57
22
1:10:57
at
1:10:57
this
1:10:57
point,
1:10:58
or
1:10:58
21.
1:10:58
Still
1:10:59
pretty
1:10:59
young,
1:10:59
but
1:11:00
out
1:11:00
there
1:11:00
doing
1:11:00
the
1:11:01
thing.
1:11:02
Another.
1:11:02
I'm
1:11:02
gonna
1:11:02
go
1:11:02
shout
1:11:03
out
1:11:03
to
1:11:03
some
1:11:03
of
1:11:03
my
1:11:03
bands
1:11:03
I
1:11:04
have
1:11:04
coming
1:11:04
up.
1:11:04
He
1:11:04
rioth
1:11:05
they.
1:11:06
It's
1:11:06
just
1:11:06
H
1:11:06
I
1:11:07
R
1:11:07
A
1:11:08
E
1:11:08
T
1:11:08
H.
1:11:09
If
1:11:09
you're
1:11:09
into
1:11:10
bands
1:11:10
like,
1:11:10
like
1:11:10
I
1:11:10
Hate
1:11:11
God,
1:11:11
Crowbar,
1:11:12
any
1:11:12
of
1:11:12
that
1:11:12
90s
1:11:12
sledge
1:11:13
doom.
1:11:13
This
1:11:14
is
1:11:14
a
1:11:14
band
1:11:14
out
1:11:14
of
1:11:15
the
1:11:15
Calera
1:11:16
Montevallo
1:11:17
area.
1:11:17
That
1:11:18
sound
1:11:18
and
1:11:18
look
1:11:19
straight
1:11:19
up
1:11:19
like
1:11:19
they're
1:11:20
from
1:11:20
that.
1:11:20
These
1:11:20
dudes
1:11:20
are
1:11:21
still
1:11:21
in
1:11:21
high
1:11:21
school.
1:11:22
They
1:11:22
absolutely
1:11:23
rip.
1:11:24
I've
1:11:24
got
1:11:24
Palaces
1:11:25
coming
1:11:25
from
1:11:25
Atlanta,
1:11:26
and
1:11:27
their
1:11:27
new
1:11:27
stuff
1:11:28
is
1:11:28
really
1:11:28
cool
1:11:29
and
1:11:29
really
1:11:29
different.
1:11:29
They
1:11:29
recorded
1:11:30
a
1:11:30
new
1:11:30
album
1:11:30
with
1:11:30
Mastodon,
1:11:31
so
1:11:31
definitely
1:11:32
check
1:11:32
that
1:11:32
out,
1:11:33
man.
1:11:34
I
1:11:34
just
1:11:34
could.
1:11:34
I
1:11:34
could
1:11:34
just
1:11:34
go
1:11:35
on
1:11:35
and
1:11:35
on.
1:11:35
Towering
1:11:35
about
1:11:36
of
1:11:36
Pleasant
1:11:36
Valley,
1:11:38
Crimson
1:11:38
Mask.
1:11:39
I'm
1:11:39
gonna
1:11:39
forget
1:11:40
so
1:11:40
many
1:11:40
bands,
1:11:40
but
1:11:40
just
1:11:41
support
1:11:41
local
1:11:41
when
1:11:42
you
1:11:42
can,
1:11:42
man.
1:11:42
Because
1:11:43
like,
1:11:43
all
1:11:43
these
1:11:44
other
1:11:44
bands,
1:11:44
there's
1:11:45
so
1:11:45
many
1:11:45
cool
1:11:45
bands
1:11:45
out
1:11:46
there,
1:11:46
but
1:11:46
there
1:11:46
are
1:11:47
so
1:11:47
many
1:11:48
damn
1:11:48
good
1:11:49
bands
1:11:50
in
1:11:50
this
1:11:50
scene
1:11:51
creating
1:11:51
original
1:11:52
music
1:11:53
from
1:11:53
Alabama
1:11:54
and
1:11:55
representing
1:11:55
our
1:11:56
state
1:11:56
or
1:11:56
from
1:11:56
other
1:11:56
states
1:11:57
and
1:11:57
surrounding
1:11:57
areas
1:11:57
that
1:11:58
are
1:11:58
just
1:11:58
so
1:11:59
good.
1:11:59
And
1:12:00
I
1:12:00
say
1:12:01
get
1:12:01
out
1:12:01
to
1:12:01
a
1:12:02
local
1:12:02
show.
1:12:03
Because
1:12:03
when
1:12:03
you
1:12:03
get
1:12:04
to
1:12:04
a
1:12:04
local
1:12:04
show,
1:12:05
you
1:12:05
can
1:12:06
literally
1:12:06
go.
1:12:06
You
1:12:07
could
1:12:07
stand
1:12:07
right
1:12:07
next
1:12:08
to
1:12:08
the
1:12:08
band.
1:12:08
You
1:12:08
could
1:12:09
be
1:12:09
so
1:12:09
close.
1:12:09
You
1:12:09
could
1:12:09
touch
1:12:10
them.
1:12:10
You
1:12:10
can
1:12:10
talk
1:12:10
to
1:12:10
them,
1:12:11
you
1:12:11
can
1:12:11
interact
1:12:12
with
1:12:12
them.
1:12:12
They
1:12:12
are
1:12:12
human
1:12:12
beings.
1:12:13
And
1:12:14
that
1:12:14
experience
1:12:15
is,
1:12:15
to
1:12:16
me,
1:12:16
one
1:12:16
of
1:12:16
the
1:12:16
absolute
1:12:17
best
1:12:17
experiences.
1:12:18
And
1:12:18
when
1:12:18
I
1:12:18
started
1:12:19
going
1:12:19
to
1:12:19
shows
1:12:19
here
1:12:19
in
1:12:19
Birmingham
1:12:20
in
1:12:20
about
1:12:20
20,
1:12:22
I
1:12:22
guess,
1:12:22
2019,
1:12:24
seeing
1:12:24
all
1:12:24
that,
1:12:25
experiencing
1:12:25
that,
1:12:26
that's
1:12:26
what
1:12:26
made
1:12:26
me
1:12:27
feel
1:12:27
fall
1:12:27
back
1:12:27
in
1:12:27
love
1:12:28
again,
1:12:28
because
1:12:28
I
1:12:29
didn't
1:12:29
have
1:12:29
a
1:12:29
scene
1:12:29
before
1:12:30
that.
1:12:30
But
1:12:30
going
1:12:30
to
1:12:31
those
1:12:31
shows
1:12:32
at
1:12:32
True
1:12:33
Story,
1:12:33
which
1:12:33
has
1:12:33
become
1:12:34
kind
1:12:34
of
1:12:34
my
1:12:34
second
1:12:34
home,
1:12:34
where
1:12:35
I
1:12:35
run
1:12:35
my
1:12:35
shows
1:12:35
out
1:12:36
of
1:12:36
man.
1:12:37
Just
1:12:38
being
1:12:38
able
1:12:38
to
1:12:39
see
1:12:39
it
1:12:39
and
1:12:39
see
1:12:40
all
1:12:41
of
1:12:41
this
1:12:41
energy
1:12:42
and
1:12:42
all
1:12:42
of
1:12:42
this
1:12:43
authenticity
1:12:43
and
1:12:44
all
1:12:44
this
1:12:45
just
1:12:45
genuine
1:12:46
music
1:12:47
being
1:12:47
created
1:12:48
from
1:12:48
whatever
1:12:49
genre,
1:12:50
whatever
1:12:50
style.
1:12:50
It
1:12:51
doesn't
1:12:51
matter.
1:12:51
It
1:12:52
was
1:12:52
all
1:12:52
authentic.
1:12:52
Authentic.
1:12:53
It's
1:12:53
coming
1:12:53
from
1:12:53
an
1:12:53
authentic
1:12:54
place
1:12:54
and
1:12:54
just
1:12:54
seeing
1:12:55
all
1:12:55
that
1:12:55
in
1:12:56
person
1:12:56
at
1:12:56
a
1:12:56
small
1:12:57
local
1:12:57
show
1:12:58
instead
1:12:58
of,
1:12:58
like
1:12:58
a
1:12:58
big
1:12:59
venue.
1:12:59
Don't
1:13:00
be
1:13:00
wrong.
1:13:00
Those
1:13:00
shows
1:13:00
are
1:13:01
cool,
1:13:01
too.
1:13:01
Sometimes
1:13:01
with
1:13:02
those
1:13:02
small
1:13:02
local
1:13:02
shows,
1:13:03
the
1:13:03
energy
1:13:04
is
1:13:04
almost
1:13:04
unmatched.
1:13:05
At
1:13:05
any
1:13:05
of
1:13:06
those
1:13:06
shows.
1:13:06
No,
1:13:07
I
1:13:07
agree.
1:13:07
To
1:13:08
me.
1:13:08
So
1:13:08
currently,
1:13:09
I've
1:13:09
been
1:13:09
listening
1:13:09
to
1:13:10
a
1:13:10
lot
1:13:10
of
1:13:11
folk
1:13:11
metal.
1:13:12
Nice.
1:13:13
I
1:13:13
don't
1:13:13
have
1:13:13
much
1:13:14
experience
1:13:14
with
1:13:15
at
1:13:15
all.
1:13:16
My
1:13:16
child
1:13:17
has
1:13:17
gotten
1:13:17
into
1:13:18
it.
1:13:18
Nice.
1:13:18
He's
1:13:19
11.
1:13:19
As
1:13:20
much
1:13:20
as
1:13:20
I
1:13:20
have
1:13:21
worked
1:13:21
getting
1:13:21
him
1:13:21
into
1:13:22
punk
1:13:23
and
1:13:23
hardcore,
1:13:24
it
1:13:24
hasn't
1:13:25
happened.
1:13:25
He
1:13:25
likes
1:13:26
Weird
1:13:26
Al
1:13:26
and
1:13:27
he
1:13:27
likes
1:13:27
folk
1:13:28
metal.
1:13:28
Okay.
1:13:29
Which.
1:13:30
Whatever.
1:13:30
Like,
1:13:30
I
1:13:31
don't.
1:13:31
Yeah,
1:13:32
like,
1:13:33
just
1:13:33
like
1:13:33
something.
1:13:33
I
1:13:34
don't
1:13:34
care.
1:13:35
But
1:13:35
I
1:13:35
have
1:13:36
no
1:13:36
experience
1:13:36
with
1:13:37
folk
1:13:37
metal,
1:13:38
so
1:13:39
I've
1:13:39
been
1:13:39
trying
1:13:40
to
1:13:41
educate
1:13:41
myself
1:13:42
on
1:13:42
this.
1:13:43
There's.
1:13:43
There's
1:13:44
one
1:13:44
band.
1:13:44
I
1:13:45
think
1:13:45
it's.
1:13:45
It's
1:13:46
his
1:13:46
favorite,
1:13:46
like,
1:13:46
folk
1:13:47
metal
1:13:47
band.
1:13:48
And
1:13:48
I
1:13:49
hope
1:13:49
I'm
1:13:49
using
1:13:49
the
1:13:49
right.
1:13:50
The
1:13:50
right
1:13:50
term.
1:13:51
I
1:13:51
think
1:13:51
they're
1:13:52
called,
1:13:52
like,
1:13:52
Wind
1:13:53
Rose
1:13:54
or
1:13:54
Wild
1:13:55
Rose.
1:13:55
Or
1:13:56
I
1:13:56
think
1:13:56
they're
1:13:56
from
1:13:57
Italy,
1:13:58
but
1:13:58
they,
1:13:58
they
1:13:59
all
1:13:59
dress
1:13:59
up
1:13:59
like
1:13:59
they're
1:14:00
dwarves
1:14:00
from
1:14:00
like
1:14:01
Tolkien
1:14:02
Dwarves.
1:14:03
And
1:14:03
their
1:14:04
songs
1:14:04
are
1:14:04
all
1:14:04
about
1:14:05
like,
1:14:06
like
1:14:06
the
1:14:07
Misty
1:14:07
Mountain
1:14:08
and,
1:14:08
and.
1:14:08
All
1:14:09
right.
1:14:09
Got
1:14:09
some
1:14:09
dwarf
1:14:10
metal.
1:14:10
Tolkien.
1:14:11
Yeah,
1:14:12
like
1:14:12
Tolkien.
1:14:12
Dwarvish.
1:14:13
Yeah,
1:14:14
dude.
1:14:14
But
1:14:15
I
1:14:15
have
1:14:15
one
1:14:15
really
1:14:15
catchy
1:14:16
song
1:14:16
called
1:14:16
like
1:14:17
Diggy
1:14:17
Diggy
1:14:17
Hole.
1:14:18
I
1:14:19
gotta
1:14:19
check
1:14:19
it
1:14:19
out.
1:14:21
It
1:14:21
is
1:14:22
so
1:14:22
amazingly
1:14:23
catchy.
1:14:24
I
1:14:25
mean
1:14:25
it's,
1:14:25
it's
1:14:25
borderline
1:14:26
genius
1:14:26
how
1:14:27
catchy
1:14:27
this
1:14:27
song
1:14:27
is.
1:14:28
But
1:14:28
the
1:14:28
chorus
1:14:29
is
1:14:29
like,
1:14:29
I.
1:14:30
Or
1:14:30
like,
1:14:30
we
1:14:30
are
1:14:31
dwarves
1:14:31
and
1:14:31
we're
1:14:31
digging
1:14:32
a
1:14:32
hole.
1:14:33
I've
1:14:34
heard,
1:14:34
I've
1:14:34
heard
1:14:35
this.
1:14:35
I
1:14:35
actually
1:14:36
have
1:14:36
heard
1:14:36
that.
1:14:37
It's
1:14:37
spectacular.
1:14:40
So
1:14:40
again,
1:14:40
I'm
1:14:40
trying,
1:14:41
I'm
1:14:41
doing
1:14:42
my
1:14:42
best
1:14:42
to
1:14:42
learn
1:14:43
about,
1:14:43
about
1:14:44
folk
1:14:44
metal
1:14:45
or
1:14:45
dwarven
1:14:45
metal
1:14:46
or.
1:14:46
Sure,
1:14:47
I
1:14:47
don't,
1:14:47
I
1:14:47
don't
1:14:47
know
1:14:48
the
1:14:48
terms
1:14:48
and
1:14:48
I
1:14:48
apologize
1:14:49
for
1:14:49
that.
1:14:49
But
1:14:50
I'm
1:14:50
doing
1:14:50
my
1:14:50
best
1:14:50
to
1:14:50
learn
1:14:51
about
1:14:51
that.
1:14:52
A
1:14:52
lot
1:14:52
of
1:14:53
right
1:14:53
now,
1:14:54
one,
1:14:54
one
1:14:54
band
1:14:55
out
1:14:55
of
1:14:55
that
1:14:56
San
1:14:56
Diego,
1:14:57
not
1:14:57
punk,
1:14:58
but
1:14:58
I
1:14:58
like,
1:14:59
I
1:14:59
definitely
1:14:59
think
1:14:59
they
1:15:00
have
1:15:00
some
1:15:00
punk
1:15:00
roots
1:15:00
and
1:15:00
they're
1:15:01
definitely,
1:15:01
in
1:15:01
my
1:15:01
opinion,
1:15:02
punk
1:15:02
adjacent.
1:15:03
They're
1:15:03
called
1:15:03
the
1:15:04
Neighborhood
1:15:04
Kids,
1:15:05
their
1:15:05
hip
1:15:05
hop
1:15:06
group.
1:15:06
But
1:15:07
if
1:15:07
you
1:15:07
listen
1:15:07
to
1:15:07
them
1:15:07
like
1:15:08
you,
1:15:08
you
1:15:09
can
1:15:09
hear
1:15:09
the
1:15:09
influences
1:15:10
and,
1:15:11
and
1:15:12
there's
1:15:12
definitely
1:15:13
some,
1:15:13
some
1:15:14
punk
1:15:14
thread
1:15:15
influences
1:15:15
in
1:15:15
there.
1:15:16
But
1:15:16
they're
1:15:16
very,
1:15:18
they're
1:15:18
very
1:15:19
political,
1:15:19
they're
1:15:20
very
1:15:20
socially
1:15:20
minded.
1:15:21
I
1:15:22
want
1:15:22
to
1:15:23
say
1:15:23
they're,
1:15:23
they're
1:15:23
all
1:15:24
Hispanic,
1:15:25
so
1:15:25
you
1:15:25
know,
1:15:25
they
1:15:25
sing
1:15:26
a
1:15:26
lot
1:15:26
about
1:15:26
like,
1:15:26
you
1:15:26
know,
1:15:27
immigration
1:15:27
issues
1:15:28
and
1:15:28
stuff.
1:15:28
Right.
1:15:29
And
1:15:29
there's,
1:15:30
there's
1:15:30
two
1:15:30
vocalists
1:15:31
and
1:15:31
I
1:15:31
don't
1:15:31
know
1:15:31
either
1:15:31
of
1:15:32
their
1:15:32
names,
1:15:32
but
1:15:32
there's
1:15:33
a
1:15:33
male
1:15:33
and
1:15:33
female
1:15:33
vocalist
1:15:35
and
1:15:35
one
1:15:35
of
1:15:35
their
1:15:35
songs
1:15:36
is
1:15:36
called.
1:15:37
I
1:15:37
think
1:15:37
it's
1:15:37
called
1:15:38
Kids
1:15:38
out
1:15:38
of
1:15:38
Cages
1:15:38
or
1:15:39
get
1:15:39
the
1:15:39
Kids
1:15:39
out
1:15:39
of
1:15:39
the
1:15:39
Cages.
1:15:39
Get
1:15:40
Kids
1:15:40
in
1:15:40
the
1:15:40
Cages.
1:15:40
I'm
1:15:41
googling
1:15:41
it
1:15:41
so
1:15:42
I
1:15:42
can
1:15:42
listen
1:15:42
to
1:15:42
it
1:15:42
later.
1:15:44
And
1:15:44
the
1:15:44
vocals
1:15:45
come
1:15:45
out
1:15:45
like,
1:15:45
like
1:15:46
a
1:15:46
machine
1:15:46
gun.
1:15:47
It's,
1:15:47
it's
1:15:47
like
1:15:48
they
1:15:48
break
1:15:48
each
1:15:49
word
1:15:49
into
1:15:50
like
1:15:51
the
1:15:51
syllables,
1:15:52
so
1:15:52
each
1:15:53
syllable
1:15:53
is
1:15:53
like.
1:15:55
And
1:15:55
it's
1:15:55
just,
1:15:56
just,
1:15:56
just
1:15:56
the
1:15:57
delivery
1:15:57
and,
1:15:58
and
1:15:58
the
1:15:58
way
1:15:58
the
1:15:58
two,
1:15:59
the
1:15:59
two
1:15:59
vocalists
1:16:00
play
1:16:00
off
1:16:00
of
1:16:00
each
1:16:00
other.
1:16:02
But
1:16:02
then
1:16:02
they,
1:16:02
they
1:16:02
just
1:16:03
released
1:16:03
another
1:16:03
song
1:16:04
which
1:16:04
is
1:16:04
completely
1:16:05
different.
1:16:05
It's
1:16:06
much
1:16:06
more
1:16:07
melodic.
1:16:07
It
1:16:08
has
1:16:08
a
1:16:08
good,
1:16:08
like,
1:16:09
flow,
1:16:09
good
1:16:09
like
1:16:10
groove
1:16:10
to
1:16:10
it.
1:16:11
It's
1:16:11
called,
1:16:12
I
1:16:12
want
1:16:12
to
1:16:12
say
1:16:13
it's
1:16:13
called
1:16:13
Life
1:16:13
is
1:16:14
a
1:16:14
Movie
1:16:14
or
1:16:14
Life
1:16:15
is
1:16:15
like
1:16:15
a
1:16:15
Movie
1:16:16
or
1:16:16
My
1:16:16
Life
1:16:16
is
1:16:16
a
1:16:17
Movie.
1:16:17
Something
1:16:18
like
1:16:18
that.
1:16:19
Very
1:16:19
different
1:16:20
feel.
1:16:20
So,
1:16:20
so
1:16:20
it's
1:16:21
much
1:16:21
more
1:16:21
laid
1:16:21
back
1:16:22
and,
1:16:23
and
1:16:23
calm
1:16:23
and
1:16:24
groove
1:16:24
and
1:16:25
almost,
1:16:26
almost
1:16:26
more
1:16:26
like,
1:16:27
like
1:16:27
a
1:16:27
Bone
1:16:27
Thugs
1:16:28
groove.
1:16:28
To
1:16:28
it.
1:16:29
Yeah.
1:16:29
So
1:16:29
like
1:16:29
more
1:16:30
melodic.
1:16:30
And
1:16:31
then
1:16:31
one
1:16:31
of
1:16:31
the
1:16:31
other
1:16:31
things
1:16:31
they're
1:16:32
doing
1:16:32
right
1:16:32
now
1:16:32
on,
1:16:33
on
1:16:33
their
1:16:34
social
1:16:34
media.
1:16:35
So
1:16:35
Instagram
1:16:35
is
1:16:36
mainly
1:16:36
what
1:16:36
I
1:16:36
follow
1:16:37
them
1:16:37
on
1:16:37
is
1:16:38
like
1:16:38
each
1:16:38
day
1:16:38
they're
1:16:39
doing
1:16:39
like
1:16:39
a,
1:16:39
like
1:16:39
a
1:16:40
freestyle
1:16:40
of
1:16:40
the
1:16:40
day.
1:16:41
That's
1:16:41
cool.
1:16:41
And
1:16:42
a
1:16:42
couple,
1:16:42
a
1:16:42
couple
1:16:43
days
1:16:43
ago
1:16:43
they
1:16:43
did,
1:16:44
they
1:16:44
took
1:16:44
the,
1:16:45
the
1:16:45
musical
1:16:46
track
1:16:46
from
1:16:47
Liquid
1:16:47
Swords
1:16:47
from
1:16:48
the
1:16:48
Jizza
1:16:48
Old
1:16:48
Wu
1:16:49
Tanga.
1:16:50
They
1:16:50
took
1:16:50
that,
1:16:50
that,
1:16:51
that
1:16:51
instrumental
1:16:52
track
1:16:52
and,
1:16:52
and
1:16:52
rhymed
1:16:53
over
1:16:53
it
1:16:53
and
1:16:53
just.
1:16:54
That's
1:16:54
cool.
1:16:54
Freestyled
1:16:55
over
1:16:55
it
1:16:55
and
1:16:55
it,
1:16:55
and
1:16:56
it
1:16:56
was
1:16:56
great.
1:16:57
So
1:16:57
yeah,
1:16:57
the
1:16:57
neighborhood
1:16:58
kids,
1:16:58
they
1:16:58
also
1:16:59
just
1:16:59
did.
1:17:00
They
1:17:00
did
1:17:01
it
1:17:01
like
1:17:01
a
1:17:01
tiny
1:17:01
desk
1:17:02
concert.
1:17:02
Oh
1:17:02
snap.
1:17:03
I
1:17:03
love
1:17:03
those.
1:17:03
So
1:17:03
that's
1:17:04
really
1:17:04
cool
1:17:04
to
1:17:04
check
1:17:04
out.
1:17:05
And
1:17:05
I
1:17:05
think.
1:17:05
And
1:17:06
I
1:17:06
believe
1:17:06
they
1:17:06
also
1:17:07
just
1:17:07
within
1:17:08
the
1:17:08
last
1:17:08
month
1:17:08
or
1:17:08
two
1:17:09
wrapped
1:17:09
up
1:17:09
a
1:17:09
tour
1:17:09
opening
1:17:10
for,
1:17:10
for
1:17:11
Tom
1:17:11
Morello.
1:17:12
Definitely
1:17:12
going
1:17:12
to
1:17:12
check
1:17:13
that
1:17:13
out,
1:17:13
dude.
1:17:13
And
1:17:14
to
1:17:14
like
1:17:15
punk
1:17:15
and
1:17:15
hip
1:17:16
hop
1:17:16
and
1:17:17
all
1:17:17
this
1:17:17
stuff,
1:17:17
dude,
1:17:18
like
1:17:18
a
1:17:18
lot
1:17:19
of
1:17:19
those
1:17:19
messages
1:17:19
come
1:17:20
from
1:17:20
the
1:17:20
same
1:17:20
place.
1:17:21
A
1:17:21
lot
1:17:21
of
1:17:21
of
1:17:21
it's
1:17:21
anti
1:17:22
authority.
1:17:22
It's
1:17:23
A
1:17:23
lot
1:17:23
of
1:17:23
it
1:17:23
does
1:17:24
come
1:17:24
from
1:17:24
the
1:17:24
same
1:17:24
place.
1:17:25
So
1:17:25
I
1:17:25
think
1:17:25
it's
1:17:26
100%
1:17:26
adjacent.
1:17:27
I
1:17:27
mean
1:17:27
if
1:17:27
you
1:17:27
hear
1:17:28
any
1:17:28
interviews
1:17:28
with
1:17:29
the
1:17:29
guys
1:17:29
that
1:17:29
were
1:17:29
coming
1:17:29
up
1:17:30
in
1:17:30
the
1:17:30
scene,
1:17:30
you
1:17:30
know,
1:17:31
like
1:17:31
in
1:17:31
the
1:17:31
80s
1:17:32
when
1:17:32
metal
1:17:33
was
1:17:33
breaking
1:17:33
big
1:17:33
and
1:17:33
punk
1:17:34
was
1:17:34
big
1:17:34
and
1:17:34
hip
1:17:34
hop
1:17:35
was
1:17:35
breaking,
1:17:35
like
1:17:35
all
1:17:36
those
1:17:36
dudes,
1:17:36
like
1:17:37
they
1:17:37
were
1:17:37
cool
1:17:38
mostly
1:17:38
with
1:17:39
each
1:17:39
other,
1:17:39
you
1:17:39
know,
1:17:39
and
1:17:40
it
1:17:40
was
1:17:40
all
1:17:41
the
1:17:41
same
1:17:41
thing.
1:17:41
And
1:17:42
I,
1:17:42
I,
1:17:42
I
1:17:43
have,
1:17:43
I
1:17:43
have
1:17:44
a
1:17:44
love
1:17:44
for
1:17:44
hip
1:17:44
hop
1:17:45
as
1:17:45
well.
1:17:45
I
1:17:45
always
1:17:46
have.
1:17:46
And
1:17:47
one
1:17:47
of
1:17:47
my
1:17:47
favorite
1:17:48
bands,
1:17:49
I
1:17:49
love
1:17:50
Run
1:17:50
the
1:17:50
Jewels.
1:17:50
That's
1:17:51
one
1:17:51
of
1:17:51
my
1:17:51
favorite
1:17:51
kind
1:17:52
of
1:17:52
hip
1:17:52
hop
1:17:52
groups
1:17:52
out.
1:17:53
They
1:17:53
have
1:17:53
a
1:17:53
really
1:17:53
great
1:17:54
song
1:17:54
that
1:17:54
came
1:17:54
out
1:17:54
on
1:17:54
Run
1:17:54
the
1:17:55
Jewels
1:17:55
four
1:17:55
called
1:17:56
Walking
1:17:56
in
1:17:56
the
1:17:56
Snow.
1:17:57
And
1:17:57
Killer
1:17:58
Mike
1:17:58
just
1:17:58
drops
1:17:59
some
1:17:59
absolute
1:18:00
bombs
1:18:00
of
1:18:00
verses
1:18:01
on
1:18:01
it.
1:18:01
Dude.
1:18:01
It's
1:18:02
just.
1:18:02
And
1:18:03
it's
1:18:03
about
1:18:03
the
1:18:04
kids
1:18:04
in
1:18:04
cages
1:18:04
part
1:18:05
is
1:18:05
very
1:18:05
relevant
1:18:06
to
1:18:06
that
1:18:06
song
1:18:08
and
1:18:09
the
1:18:09
stuff
1:18:09
they
1:18:09
do.
1:18:10
You
1:18:10
know,
1:18:11
a
1:18:11
lot
1:18:11
of
1:18:11
their
1:18:11
attitude
1:18:12
on
1:18:12
their
1:18:12
early
1:18:13
stuff
1:18:13
was
1:18:14
almost
1:18:14
like
1:18:15
so
1:18:15
aggressive.
1:18:15
It
1:18:15
was
1:18:16
borderline
1:18:16
like
1:18:17
metallic
1:18:17
because
1:18:17
it
1:18:18
was
1:18:18
just
1:18:18
so,
1:18:19
so
1:18:19
aggressive.
1:18:20
So
1:18:21
yeah,
1:18:21
I,
1:18:21
you
1:18:22
know,
1:18:22
when
1:18:22
you're
1:18:22
talking
1:18:22
about
1:18:23
punk
1:18:23
and
1:18:23
all
1:18:24
of
1:18:24
these
1:18:24
things,
1:18:25
that's
1:18:25
just
1:18:25
a
1:18:25
way
1:18:26
to
1:18:26
put
1:18:26
something
1:18:26
inside
1:18:26
of
1:18:27
a
1:18:27
neat
1:18:27
little
1:18:27
box
1:18:27
when
1:18:28
reality
1:18:28
is,
1:18:28
is
1:18:29
like
1:18:29
we
1:18:29
all.
1:18:30
There's
1:18:30
elements
1:18:31
of
1:18:31
all
1:18:31
of
1:18:31
this
1:18:31
and
1:18:32
so
1:18:32
many
1:18:32
different
1:18:32
things.
1:18:33
There's
1:18:33
punk
1:18:33
and
1:18:33
country,
1:18:34
you
1:18:34
know,
1:18:34
and
1:18:34
some
1:18:35
country
1:18:35
artists.
1:18:35
You
1:18:35
know,
1:18:36
like
1:18:36
there's.
1:18:37
Oh
1:18:37
yeah.
1:18:37
If
1:18:37
you
1:18:37
look
1:18:38
at
1:18:38
like,
1:18:38
like,
1:18:39
like
1:18:39
the
1:18:39
outlaw
1:18:39
country
1:18:40
stuff.
1:18:40
Yeah,
1:18:41
there's
1:18:41
a
1:18:42
newer.
1:18:42
I'm
1:18:43
gonna
1:18:43
label
1:18:43
her
1:18:44
as
1:18:44
like
1:18:44
outlaw
1:18:45
country.
1:18:45
Her
1:18:46
name
1:18:46
is
1:18:47
Emerson
1:18:48
Wolf
1:18:49
and
1:18:49
Wolf
1:18:50
is
1:18:50
spelled
1:18:51
W,
1:18:52
O,
1:18:52
O,
1:18:53
L,
1:18:53
F.
1:18:53
Okay.
1:18:54
I
1:18:54
think
1:18:54
it's.
1:18:56
I
1:18:56
think
1:18:56
it's
1:18:56
Emerson
1:18:57
Wolf
1:18:57
and
1:18:57
the
1:18:57
Wishbone.
1:18:58
Okay.
1:18:59
But
1:18:59
she's
1:18:59
like
1:19:00
the
1:19:00
newest
1:19:01
thread
1:19:01
that
1:19:01
I've
1:19:01
come
1:19:02
across
1:19:02
in
1:19:02
this
1:19:02
recent
1:19:03
thread
1:19:03
of
1:19:03
like
1:19:04
amazing
1:19:06
female
1:19:07
outlaw
1:19:08
country,
1:19:08
Americana
1:19:10
esque
1:19:10
things.
1:19:11
So
1:19:11
with
1:19:12
like
1:19:12
Nikki
1:19:13
Lane,
1:19:14
Jenny
1:19:14
don't
1:19:15
and
1:19:15
the
1:19:15
spurs,
1:19:16
but
1:19:16
Emerson.
1:19:17
Emerson
1:19:18
Wolf
1:19:18
and
1:19:18
the
1:19:18
Wishbones.
1:19:19
And
1:19:19
I
1:19:19
don't
1:19:19
want
1:19:19
to
1:19:20
take
1:19:20
away
1:19:20
from
1:19:20
any
1:19:20
of
1:19:20
these
1:19:20
people
1:19:21
saying,
1:19:21
oh,
1:19:21
they're,
1:19:21
you
1:19:22
know,
1:19:22
like.
1:19:22
And
1:19:23
lumping
1:19:23
them
1:19:23
into
1:19:23
the.
1:19:24
Into
1:19:24
punk
1:19:25
category.
1:19:26
But,
1:19:26
you
1:19:27
know,
1:19:27
like
1:19:27
you
1:19:27
were
1:19:27
saying
1:19:27
there,
1:19:28
there's.
1:19:28
There's
1:19:29
definitely
1:19:30
like
1:19:31
we
1:19:31
rub
1:19:31
shoulders
1:19:31
with,
1:19:32
With
1:19:32
a
1:19:32
bunch
1:19:32
of
1:19:32
different
1:19:33
scenes.
1:19:33
Yes.
1:19:34
And
1:19:34
I
1:19:34
think
1:19:35
influences
1:19:36
crossover
1:19:37
100.
1:19:37
I
1:19:38
think
1:19:38
punk
1:19:39
is.
1:19:39
Punk
1:19:40
is
1:19:40
an
1:19:40
ethos.
1:19:40
You
1:19:41
know,
1:19:41
I
1:19:41
think
1:19:42
it's
1:19:42
kind
1:19:42
of
1:19:42
a,
1:19:43
A
1:19:43
belief
1:19:43
in
1:19:44
a
1:19:44
way.
1:19:44
It's.
1:19:44
It's
1:19:45
a
1:19:45
way
1:19:45
you
1:19:45
carry
1:19:45
yourself
1:19:46
and
1:19:46
the
1:19:46
way
1:19:46
you
1:19:47
treat
1:19:47
others
1:19:47
and
1:19:48
all
1:19:48
that.
1:19:48
So,
1:19:49
you
1:19:49
know,
1:19:50
it's
1:19:50
not
1:19:50
just
1:19:51
three
1:19:51
chords
1:19:51
in
1:19:51
the
1:19:52
truth
1:19:52
or
1:19:52
whatever
1:19:54
it
1:19:54
is.
1:19:55
It
1:19:55
is,
1:19:55
it
1:19:56
is
1:19:56
more
1:19:56
complex
1:19:56
than
1:19:56
that.
1:19:57
So
1:19:57
you
1:19:57
can
1:19:57
have
1:19:58
all
1:19:58
these
1:19:58
influences
1:19:59
within
1:19:59
with
1:20:00
all
1:20:00
this.
1:20:00
And
1:20:00
we're
1:20:00
all.
1:20:01
Some
1:20:02
of
1:20:02
all
1:20:02
of
1:20:02
our
1:20:02
influences.
1:20:03
At
1:20:03
the
1:20:04
end
1:20:04
of
1:20:04
the
1:20:04
day,
1:20:04
I
1:20:05
like
1:20:05
to
1:20:05
think
1:20:05
of
1:20:05
our
1:20:06
brains
1:20:06
like
1:20:06
a
1:20:06
giant
1:20:07
strainer,
1:20:07
you
1:20:08
know,
1:20:08
especially
1:20:08
as
1:20:08
a
1:20:08
creative.
1:20:09
It's
1:20:09
like
1:20:09
we
1:20:09
take
1:20:09
in
1:20:09
all
1:20:10
of
1:20:10
this
1:20:10
stuff
1:20:11
and
1:20:11
then
1:20:11
there's
1:20:11
certain
1:20:12
stuff
1:20:12
that
1:20:12
seeps
1:20:12
through
1:20:13
that
1:20:13
stays
1:20:14
and
1:20:14
is
1:20:14
kind
1:20:14
of
1:20:14
part
1:20:14
of
1:20:15
our
1:20:15
DNA
1:20:16
as
1:20:16
creatives,
1:20:17
as,
1:20:17
as
1:20:17
artists,
1:20:18
as
1:20:18
whatever.
1:20:19
But
1:20:19
it's
1:20:19
all
1:20:20
a
1:20:20
sum
1:20:20
of
1:20:21
all
1:20:21
these
1:20:21
things
1:20:21
we've
1:20:21
picked
1:20:22
up
1:20:22
over
1:20:22
life.
1:20:22
Whether
1:20:23
it
1:20:23
be
1:20:23
musical
1:20:23
influences,
1:20:24
whether
1:20:24
it
1:20:24
be
1:20:24
personal,
1:20:25
personal
1:20:25
influences,
1:20:25
whether
1:20:26
it
1:20:26
be
1:20:26
life
1:20:26
experience,
1:20:27
we're
1:20:28
all
1:20:28
just
1:20:28
the
1:20:28
sum
1:20:29
of
1:20:29
that.
1:20:29
And
1:20:29
we're
1:20:29
doing
1:20:29
our
1:20:30
best
1:20:30
to
1:20:30
formulate
1:20:31
it
1:20:31
and,
1:20:31
and,
1:20:32
and
1:20:32
package
1:20:32
it
1:20:33
in
1:20:33
some
1:20:33
way.
1:20:34
So,
1:20:35
yeah,
1:20:35
you're
1:20:35
gonna
1:20:35
find
1:20:36
elements
1:20:36
of
1:20:36
all
1:20:36
kinds
1:20:37
of
1:20:37
different
1:20:37
stuff.
1:20:37
I
1:20:38
mean,
1:20:38
dude,
1:20:38
I
1:20:38
literally
1:20:38
have.
1:20:39
I
1:20:39
have
1:20:39
tuba
1:20:40
in
1:20:40
some
1:20:40
of
1:20:40
my
1:20:40
songs
1:20:41
and
1:20:41
it's.
1:20:41
That's
1:20:42
metal
1:20:42
primarily,
1:20:43
so.
1:20:44
And
1:20:44
that's
1:20:44
that
1:20:44
Chicago
1:20:45
influence
1:20:45
from
1:20:45
when
1:20:46
I
1:20:46
was
1:20:46
a
1:20:46
kid
1:20:46
that's
1:20:47
coming
1:20:47
back
1:20:47
around
1:20:47
in
1:20:48
there.
1:20:48
So.
1:20:49
Yeah,
1:20:49
man,
1:20:49
I
1:20:50
didn't
1:20:51
just
1:20:51
be
1:20:51
yourself,
1:20:52
you
1:20:52
know,
1:20:52
create
1:20:53
whatever,
1:20:53
even
1:20:54
if
1:20:54
it's
1:20:54
shitty.
1:20:55
Express
1:20:56
yourself,
1:20:56
be
1:20:57
good
1:20:57
to
1:20:57
others.
1:20:58
Don't
1:20:58
be
1:20:58
afraid
1:20:59
to
1:20:59
ask
1:20:59
for
1:20:59
help.
1:21:00
Go
1:21:00
to
1:21:00
a
1:21:00
local
1:21:01
show.
1:21:02
You
1:21:02
know,
1:21:03
if
1:21:03
you
1:21:03
see
1:21:03
a
1:21:03
guy
1:21:03
that's
1:21:04
looking
1:21:04
scary,
1:21:05
I
1:21:05
bet
1:21:05
you
1:21:05
he's
1:21:05
probably
1:21:06
the
1:21:06
nicest
1:21:07
person
1:21:07
there.
1:21:07
So,
1:21:08
you
1:21:09
know,
1:21:09
those
1:21:09
are
1:21:10
some
1:21:10
of
1:21:10
my
1:21:10
party
1:21:10
parting
1:21:11
words.
1:21:12
Awesome.
1:21:13
Thank
1:21:13
you
1:21:13
so
1:21:13
much.
1:21:14
And
1:21:14
with
1:21:14
that,
1:21:15
we're
1:21:15
gonna
1:21:15
go
1:21:15
ahead
1:21:15
and
1:21:17
wrap
1:21:17
it
1:21:17
up
1:21:17
again.
1:21:17
Thank
1:21:18
you,
1:21:18
Jeremy.
1:21:18
I
1:21:18
really
1:21:18
appreciate
1:21:19
you
1:21:19
taking
1:21:20
the
1:21:20
time.
1:21:20
Thank
1:21:20
you,
1:21:20
man.
1:21:21
To
1:21:21
talk
1:21:21
with
1:21:21
me
1:21:21
tonight.
1:21:22
I
1:21:22
really
1:21:22
appreciate
1:21:23
it.
1:21:23
Again,
1:21:24
like
1:21:24
I
1:21:24
said
1:21:25
at
1:21:25
the
1:21:25
beginning,
1:21:25
I'm
1:21:25
not
1:21:25
a
1:21:25
professional.
1:21:26
I'm
1:21:26
sure
1:21:27
you
1:21:27
have
1:21:27
a
1:21:27
lot
1:21:27
of
1:21:27
criticisms
1:21:28
of
1:21:28
what
1:21:28
you
1:21:28
just
1:21:29
heard.
1:21:29
Please
1:21:29
tell
1:21:29
me.
1:21:30
Like,
1:21:30
I
1:21:30
would
1:21:30
love
1:21:30
to
1:21:31
know
1:21:31
what
1:21:31
I
1:21:31
could
1:21:31
do
1:21:31
better,
1:21:32
and
1:21:32
it
1:21:32
would
1:21:32
be
1:21:32
super
1:21:33
awesome
1:21:33
if
1:21:33
you're
1:21:33
like,
1:21:33
hey,
1:21:34
not
1:21:34
only
1:21:34
can
1:21:35
I
1:21:35
tell
1:21:35
you
1:21:35
what
1:21:35
you
1:21:35
can
1:21:35
do
1:21:36
better,
1:21:36
but
1:21:37
I
1:21:37
can
1:21:37
help
1:21:37
you
1:21:37
learn
1:21:38
how
1:21:38
to
1:21:38
edit
1:21:38
effectively.
1:21:39
Like,
1:21:39
that
1:21:40
would
1:21:40
be
1:21:40
great.
1:21:40
I'd
1:21:40
appreciate
1:21:41
it.
1:21:41
If
1:21:41
you
1:21:41
want
1:21:42
to
1:21:42
follow
1:21:42
me
1:21:42
in
1:21:42
places.
1:21:43
Oh,
1:21:43
email,
1:21:44
Punk,
1:21:44
love,
1:21:44
compassion,
1:21:45
all
1:21:45
one
1:21:46
word@yahoo.com
1:21:48
Facebook
1:21:49
is
1:21:49
punk
1:21:49
love
1:21:50
and
1:21:50
compassion
1:21:51
Instagram
1:21:52
is
1:21:52
at
1:21:52
Punk
1:21:53
Love
1:21:53
Compassion.
1:21:54
Shoot
1:21:55
me
1:21:55
a
1:21:55
message.
1:21:55
I'd
1:21:55
love
1:21:55
to
1:21:56
hear
1:21:56
from
1:21:56
you.
1:21:56
If
1:21:57
you
1:21:57
think
1:21:57
you
1:21:57
have
1:21:57
a
1:21:57
great
1:21:57
story
1:21:58
that
1:21:58
you'd
1:21:58
like
1:21:58
to
1:21:58
share,
1:21:59
because,
1:21:59
one,
1:22:00
we
1:22:00
all
1:22:00
have
1:22:00
stories
1:22:01
because
1:22:01
we
1:22:01
all
1:22:01
struggle
1:22:02
and
1:22:02
I
1:22:02
think
1:22:02
everybody
1:22:03
has
1:22:03
a
1:22:03
voice
1:22:03
and
1:22:04
everybody's
1:22:04
voice
1:22:04
should
1:22:05
be
1:22:05
heard,
1:22:05
shoot
1:22:06
me
1:22:06
an
1:22:06
email.
1:22:06
I'd
1:22:07
also
1:22:07
love
1:22:07
to
1:22:07
hear
1:22:08
your
1:22:08
criticisms
1:22:09
below.
1:22:10
You
1:22:10
know,
1:22:10
beyond
1:22:10
just
1:22:11
like,
1:22:11
you
1:22:11
suck.
1:22:11
You
1:22:12
should
1:22:12
give
1:22:12
up.
1:22:12
Like,
1:22:13
tell
1:22:13
me
1:22:13
why
1:22:14
I
1:22:14
suck
1:22:14
because
1:22:15
I
1:22:15
can't
1:22:15
get
1:22:15
better
1:22:15
unless
1:22:16
you
1:22:16
let
1:22:16
me
1:22:16
know.
1:22:16
Or
1:22:17
if
1:22:17
you're
1:22:17
like,
1:22:18
hey,
1:22:18
great
1:22:18
job.
1:22:18
I
1:22:19
appreciate
1:22:19
what
1:22:19
you're
1:22:19
doing.
1:22:19
I'd
1:22:20
love
1:22:20
to
1:22:20
hear
1:22:20
that
1:22:20
too.
1:22:21
But
1:22:21
yeah,
1:22:21
until
1:22:21
next
1:22:22
time,
1:22:22
I'm
1:22:23
beau.
1:22:24
Thank
1:22:24
you
1:22:24
again,
1:22:24
Jeremy.
1:22:25
It's
1:22:25
Punk,
1:22:25
Love,
1:22:25
Compassion.
1:22:26
I
1:22:26
appreciate
1:22:27
you
1:22:27
all.